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Speaker 1: Perhaps the biggest problem I was thinking to myself yesterday

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Speaker 1: with the military style academy and the ensuing pilot report

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Speaker 1: is not the number of people who reoffended. I mean, hell,

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Speaker 1: I thought they all would, but rather the fact that

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Speaker 1: it was in the minds of too many predetermined those

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Speaker 1: who called them boot camps are in the invidious position,

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Speaker 1: of course, of backing the idea but not having a solution,

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Speaker 1: which is an awfully easy position to find yourself in labour.

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Speaker 1: And the Greens hate the idea, of course. It's unkind.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't involve sitting around talking about your feelings a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's not forgiving. It doesn't recognize trauma or your past.

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Speaker 1: That's why crime got so hopelessly out of control, as

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Speaker 1: it did in the past handful of years. Their policy

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Speaker 1: was to have fewer people in prison, a lot of

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Speaker 1: judges with massive discounts, and just an overarching view that

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Speaker 1: short of some serious stuff a bitter but a smash

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Speaker 1: and grab or biffo were somewhere between teenage high jinks

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Speaker 1: and lautish behavior that a good telling off might address. Meantime,

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Speaker 1: back in the real world, we were completely sick and

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Speaker 1: tired of the yarrises in the shop windows and the

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Speaker 1: layabouts wandering out of woollies with legs of lamb and

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Speaker 1: slabs abear not having paid for them. So military academies

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Speaker 1: ten of the worst given a few months with rigorous oversight,

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Speaker 1: hopefully to get back out and wrapped up with support

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Speaker 1: of some expert guidance and fingers crossed a life changing experience.

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Speaker 1: Now many respects, the government were on a hiding to nothing.

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Speaker 1: I mean ten of the worst. What have they got

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Speaker 1: to lose? I mean the fact who didn't reoffend I

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Speaker 1: would have thought it was a little short of a miracle.

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Speaker 1: Those that did offend, by the way, not widely reported,

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Speaker 1: offend it at a lesser level. And do not forget

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Speaker 1: the trial is ongoing, the guidance, the wrap around mentorship

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Speaker 1: is still in action, so there is still hope now.

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Speaker 1: Criticism around the cost fair enough, but like most problems,

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Speaker 1: when it's been allowed to get progressively worse, whether it's

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Speaker 1: a car, or a paint job or a kid on

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Speaker 1: the skieds, the bill goes up. This most likely won't

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Speaker 1: be a miracle, but it might be a dent. It

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Speaker 1: might for some actually work. It might be better than

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Speaker 1: what we've done, which is little or nothing, but you

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Speaker 1: would need an open mind to come to that conclusion.

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