1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Bit of good retail news for you. Back in April, 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: the Wellington retail the Cranfields, announced their closure. Thirty three 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: years of trading in the capitol, all set to end 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: over the removal of those car parks in the city 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: of the Golden Mile gets to Wellington, moving all that 6 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: to Barkle. Well, apparently it's not over till a tiber. 7 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Cramfield's owner, Nicola Cranfield, is with us. Nicol a very 8 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: good morning to you. 9 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: Good morning mate. 10 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: Are you are you Oh? No, no, great pleasure. Are 11 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: you back? And if you're back, in what form? Are 12 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: you back? 13 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: We're currently operating online only and that's scouting around for 14 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: new premises. 15 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: You're right, and people have been fed back and gone, look, 16 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: you can't leave us in the loops. 17 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: We were overwhelmed the response. It's just been phenomenal. Yeah. 18 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: Indeed, So what do you think if you could find 19 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: a place, a physical presence bricks and watar you would 20 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: take it? 21 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: Yes? 22 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Is it hard to find? 23 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: It's quite elusive. 24 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you want them, you'd want the area, presumably. 25 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: I want the area and just good access and and 26 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: I really need to work with a council. That's I 27 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: guess not hostile to business in small business. 28 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: Well, you might have run into a small speed bump 29 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: in that particular department, many many others in the in 30 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: the similar predicament. I mean, what's the issue is how 31 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: much of it's the economy versus how much of it's 32 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: a council and the rules and the Golden Mile and 33 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: parking and all that stuff. 34 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: Look, it's really all about wanting to work with counsel 35 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: and even central government. We've just the last seven years 36 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: it just feels like the policy after policy has been 37 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: really anti business sentiment. So I've just I'm just quite exhausted, 38 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: I guess, And so I'm looking around. It might not 39 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: be Wellington. I've had a conversation with Hastings Council and 40 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: I was curious to know whether they're about to wrap 41 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: up all their streets and remove parking and bring in 42 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: a lot of cones. And fortunately they laughed and said no, 43 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: why would we do that to our retailers, So that 44 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: was heartening. 45 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: Those are the sort of things you don't really think 46 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: about when you've been a business a long time. Like you, 47 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: it's sort of that future, what are they going to do? 48 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: How are they going to do it? You know, you 49 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: don't see it coming, do you, And then suddenly the 50 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: ideology takes over, and then it's all on exactly. 51 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: You're quite vulnerable. But I've learned that, and I guess 52 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: that was why I was reluctant to sign another lease 53 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: and my current premises. Because when you sign a commercial 54 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: lease that's a personal guarantee of your house is on 55 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: the line. You're pretty exposed and you can control only 56 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: so much. I can control what I buy and I 57 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: can do my promotions. But if all of a sudden 58 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: all your access is removed and there's a sea of 59 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: cones outside your store and there's chaos and there's noise, 60 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: then that people are just not going to visit us exactly. 61 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: Well, I wish you all the very Bestiam will stay 62 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: in touch and see where you end up. So hastings 63 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: could be coming to your place. Cranfield's wonderful operator has 64 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: been for years. 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