1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: So the US FED is meeting later this week. The 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: question as to whether or not the Feed is going 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: to cut interest rates a lot of pressure, of course, 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: coming from the White House, and Shane solely from Harbord 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: Asset Management is with us this evening. So are they 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: going to cut US official interest rates? 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: Shane can know a where, Jack, Look, investment markets are 8 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: expecting us, through a reserve that's the US Central Bank 9 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: to relieve rates unchanged when it meets Wednesday, and the 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: announcement will come out Thursday. Despite the pressure you've talked 11 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: about from Prison Trump. FEDS cut rates three times since 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: September on the back of your weeker US job markets. 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 2: So the rates around three and a half to three 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: point seventy five. But now we're seeing US growth rallibly strong, 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: unemployment rate that's relaively low, inflation that's above the Fed's 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: two percent target. So pause and rates kind of makes 17 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 2: more sense than cutting at the moment. But look, Jack, 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: we're going to see mister Powell, Chairpowe come under more 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: pressure from Prison Trump on this cut. He's going to 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: have to defend the feds independence again. But the economic 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: data just doesn't support it. Sport cuts the moment. 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Well, he's been quite effective defending the independence and the 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: feed so far, and a lot of leaders are trying 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: to take a bit of a leaf out of J. 25 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Powell's book at the moment. But be very interesting to 26 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: see how we react this week. Of course, our latest 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: inflation data was a bit higher than expected, just over 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: three percent, so some of the forecasters are bringing forward 29 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: expectations of an official rate increase in the fourth quarter 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: of this year as opposed to Q one of twenty 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: twenty seven. So how have investment markets reacted. 32 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, we've actually seen seen the markets are actually 33 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: pricing and a reserve bank rate increase by September twenty 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: six now, and actually see that official cash rate in 35 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: three point one three percent in May twenty seven. In 36 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: terms of what it's done for financial markets investment markets, 37 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: we've seen entrance rates pretty much move across the curve 38 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: since that data is that what that means is two 39 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: year in newsion government bonds they're up to three point 40 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: three five percent, ten year government bonds at four point 41 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: six two that's back to level was where they were 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: back in July. With the rizero bank. New Zeale really 43 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: put its jandle down on cutting rates. What it means 44 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: for you and Ijack is we're going to see high 45 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: interest costs for the government, businesses, consumers. We've also seen 46 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: a bit of a sell off and had the more 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: interest rates since it departs in Zeon Shear market. Since 48 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: that inflation is lest today New Zealon Sar market was 49 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: only as up zero point one percent. Quite highly impacted trading, 50 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: so not a lot c there today, but certainly the 51 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: market's been a little bit weak off the back of 52 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: that higher inflation. 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: Several commentators have called out a bit of a recovery 54 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: in the New Zealand economy. They say it's begun, it's underway. 55 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: What's coming up this week to support those expectations. 56 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Later this week we've got the New Zealand Business 57 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: Conference and the AzID Activity outlock for January that's out 58 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: on Thursday, and we've also got the ains in New 59 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: Zeon consumer Confidence held on Friday, that's for January as well. 60 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: For both those sets of data, we've actually seen a 61 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: bit of a reduction in what's called the now casting 62 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: GDP forecasts for the fourth quarter and nin kid is 63 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: actually almost half chacked down to zero point five percent. 64 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: For the quarter from the zero point nine, mainly on 65 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: cards spinning. So this as in data that comes out 66 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: Tuesday Friday, and it's going to be really important to 67 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: give us a data point of for invested and for 68 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: police and makers is to within his own economy is 69 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: actually getting some traction or it's the sort of one step, 70 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: two step forward and then one back modest improvement. 71 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: So silver prices rose above US one hundred bucks an 72 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: ounce for the first time ever on Friday. 73 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: Why yeah, yeah, it was quite a stunning move. And 74 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 2: silver actually has gone through one hundred and eight dollars 75 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: today in Asian trading, and gold that's also gone through 76 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: a record as well, gone to five thousand and seventy 77 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: five dollars US announce. It's all about investors piling into 78 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: these safe havens amongst this sort of duopolitical terminal tumor 79 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: we're seeing globally and set of expectations of US interest 80 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: rate movements. So if the fear doesn't come, maybe we 81 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: see a bit of back off. But certainly we've seen 82 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: a bit more rolling of markets, with Japanese bonds particularly 83 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: being a bit of a role. It's all was actually 84 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: up two hundred percent in the past year. Issue's a 85 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: bit of a challenge in terms of gaining morse, getting 86 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: the scale to refine the metal, and the supply sort 87 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: of just so yeah, it's been on a long run. 88 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: And finally Shane Netflix tested its live ambition live streaming 89 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: a skyscraper climb from one of the world's best rock 90 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: climbers one hundred and one Stories. He climbed in Taipei 91 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: live on Netflix. No ropes, attached millions of people tuning 92 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: in worldwide. Does it represent a new kind of disruption 93 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: for the media industry. 94 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: Well, look, there's gut Alex Hanold. He's a prety of 95 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: a legend and climber. He actually climbed this building in 96 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: an hour and get you one minutes. And there's a 97 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: key word at the universe it wor was sick. All right. Look, 98 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: I think it really highlights netflix ongoing push into traditional media. 99 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: They talk about live media program as a way to 100 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: retain existing subscribers and to catch a new subscribers. They 101 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: talk about they've done two hundred live events, but most 102 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: of it's been things like comedy and but a wrestling 103 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: mainly target at US audiences. This is this sort of 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: step out into things to appeal to the right wider 105 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: world to YEA certainly be creeping into that traditional media, 106 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: but you can have that client. 107 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: I can tell you that, Yeah, I love Alex Honnell. 108 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Couldn't watch it, couldn't watch it, love Free Solo, couldn't 109 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: watch this though it was a step too far from me. 110 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Shane, Appreciate your time. 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