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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Quarter past nine on New Stalks dB. You're a Jack Tayes.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your lovely text and emails. Jack, congratulations,

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Speaker 2: best of luck to you both and to little Donald

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Speaker 2: when he arrives his Adrian Jack, if only you were

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Speaker 2: having a baby. Don't forget you're having a teenager too. Yeah, gulp.

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Speaker 2: I can just try and put that just just just

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Speaker 2: completely block that off, like you know, try and avoid

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Speaker 2: that realization for another couple of years at the very

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Speaker 2: least ninety two, ninety two. If you want to send

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Speaker 2: us a message this morning. Kevin Milne is with us

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Speaker 2: this morning. Up to money you Kevin Mandy.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Jack, is there no end of congratulations that I

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Speaker 3: have lined up here this morning? Well, first of all,

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Speaker 3: you're going to be a dad, and congratulations to you

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Speaker 3: and Marb for that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: And of course last night you won the Best Cone Affairs,

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Speaker 3: Best Presented News and Cone of Affairs something like one

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Speaker 3: twenty years ago this year, and so we're on our

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Speaker 3: names on the same cap as it were. And also

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Speaker 3: of course Q and a winning Best Kind of Airs program. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 3: believably good. You've had a fantastic night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel very very fortunate. Thank you, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I suppose a cynic would note that

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Speaker 2: the current affears ecosystem has prayer. It's not one of

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Speaker 2: what it once was, Kevin. But yeah, I've been around

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Speaker 2: long enough to know that you take these things and

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Speaker 2: feel very grateful for them when they come through. So

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 3: You certainly deserve those awards.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: And you deserve to be a dad too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you. No, it's very very exciting times,

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Speaker 2: very exciting times. And Kevin, you've you've had an interesting week.

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Speaker 2: You have noted an interesting old sign that has been

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Speaker 2: hanging around in your garage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a lad sign hanging up on the

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Speaker 3: garage and I picked which I picked up at a

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Speaker 3: garret sale. It came from an Auckland pub in the

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Speaker 3: nineteen eighties. They were doing renovations and didn't want to

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Speaker 3: sign anymore. The sign reads, any known gang member or

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Speaker 3: person wearing gang patches or emblems will not be permitted

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Speaker 3: in this hotel. It's funny really, because I bought the

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Speaker 3: sign at the garage cell as a curiosity. It seemed

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Speaker 3: quite funny that hotel proprietors might consider their bars safer

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Speaker 3: if gang members left their jackets and their cars. I thought,

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Speaker 3: wouldn't gang members caused just as much trouble without their

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Speaker 3: jackets on? Were bar patrons under greater threat from gang

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Speaker 3: members wearing patches than gang members in plain wooly jerseys.

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Speaker 3: At least with the patches, skinny scared fellows like me

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Speaker 3: knew who not to spill beer over. I suspect that

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Speaker 3: the reason I now have that sign in the garage

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Speaker 3: is that, in the end, it was of no particular

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Speaker 3: value in the bar. When they renovated, it went out. Jack,

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Speaker 3: I'm all for toughening up on the gangs that I've

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Speaker 3: yet to hear one convincing explanation for why you'd want

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Speaker 3: to cause agro by forcing gang members to remove their patches.

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Speaker 3: Just to make my point, if gangs didn't wear patches

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Speaker 3: and were causing mayhem, I'd see some sense in making

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Speaker 3: them wear identification so we all knew who the hell

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Speaker 3: they were. Ironically, we're going to try to force these

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Speaker 3: eggs to remove any identification so we don't know who

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Speaker 3: they are. It won't work, of course, which is just

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Speaker 3: as well. In short, when I wander over to our

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Speaker 3: Sombiki's directions, I want to know if they're motorcycle enthusiasts

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Speaker 3: from the Ulysses Club or lads from the Filthy Few.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it, Because I

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think Patch gang members are really intimidating,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think for a lot of people, they're

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Speaker 2: really intimidating. And I wonder if that sense of intimidation

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Speaker 2: is likely to reduce if they're not wearing patches in

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Speaker 2: public anymore. I suppose that the you know, you make

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Speaker 2: a really good point. Then I remember police said this

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Speaker 2: when the game Patch band was first announced, right, that

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Speaker 2: sometimes it's actually quite good to be able to identify

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Speaker 2: who's in. Again, if they're all wearing a uniform, then

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Speaker 2: it sort of makes things sometimes a little bit easier.

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Speaker 2: But the proof of the pudding.

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Speaker 3: Is not only for the police, but for those of

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Speaker 3: us who are having to rub shoulders with them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and and decide whether we want to go into a bar,

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Speaker 3: or go into the bar next or or whatever, you know,

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Speaker 3: to sort of stay away from them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting that you're interesting, that you're you know, like

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Speaker 2: your your sign that you felt was a kind of

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Speaker 2: a you know, a bit of an antique kind of

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Speaker 2: turning back the hands of time there a couple of decades,

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Speaker 2: is you know, quite relevant. You could go string it

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Speaker 2: up today and be useful again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah right, I might sell it back to

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Speaker 3: the pub again. Yeah yeah, yeah, to the police. Yeah yeah. Hi.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Kevin. Yeah, that's that's that's a

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Speaker 2: really interesting perspective, and I'm sure lots of our listeners

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Speaker 2: will have thoughts on that. You can send us a

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