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Speaker 1: You're trusted home for news, sport, entertainment, opinion, and Mike

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Speaker 1: the Mic asking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate altogether better

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Speaker 2: Welcome today, building, fixing stuff and how to pay for it.

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Speaker 2: We've got a broad clean out at Nitball in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: We've got a pass Mike at the supermarket. We've got

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Speaker 2: Mark and Ginny doing politics Wednesday after eight, and we

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Speaker 2: got Richard Arnold and Steve Pricet ponying up.

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Speaker 3: As well, pasking.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're hanging around for. It's Wednesday, for goodness sake,

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Speaker 2: seven past six. The Good Doctor, Ah, yes, the Good

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Speaker 2: Doctor steps forward today and delivers her first monetary policy statement.

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Speaker 2: The Reserve Bank is not going to bunt the cash rate,

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Speaker 2: of course, but the new talk, the new thinking, is

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Speaker 2: this the year most likely that they probably will put

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Speaker 2: those interest rights up. Like all of these things, that's

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Speaker 2: been a moving landscape. We thought for a while this

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Speaker 2: year might see no upward movement. Indeed, it was possible

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Speaker 2: for a short while we might see one more cut.

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Speaker 2: But as people like Kelly E. Cole of Westpacker pointed, out.

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Speaker 2: If you get growth, the possibility of a central bank

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Speaker 2: looking to enter the market to try and balance that

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Speaker 2: growth with the ensuing inflation that will come with it,

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Speaker 2: and in that is quite a story of our economy.

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Speaker 2: Eckold is suggesting three point three percent GDP this year, that,

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Speaker 2: given where we've been, is quite the number. But if

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Speaker 2: you take that number and the thought that the Reserve

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Speaker 2: Bank is stepping in with interest rate increases, you have

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Speaker 2: in those two scenarios singled out our economy's capacity. In

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Speaker 2: other words, what's the size of our engine? How much

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Speaker 2: can you rever up before a limitter cuts in and

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Speaker 2: kills the buzz? And the unfortunate thing is our capacity

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Speaker 2: is limited. Our skills are limited, our wages are limited.

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Speaker 2: The breadth of goods we produce is limited. So we

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Speaker 2: can only do so much with what we've got before.

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Speaker 2: At about three ish percent, someone in this case, the

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Speaker 2: RB goes time for a rate rise. Labour will be tight,

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Speaker 2: demand for wages will be up, spending will have risen,

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Speaker 2: demand for imported goods will be off and running, all

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Speaker 2: of which is excellent stuff. It may it appear on

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Speaker 2: our fiscal horizons asap, but the ideal economy, the broad based,

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Speaker 2: high tech, high ski fueled economy can build up a

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Speaker 2: greater head of steam for longer before the tension gets

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Speaker 2: too great and the brakes have to be applied. So

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Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to hear what the good doctor has

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Speaker 2: to say about all that today. What we're listening for is,

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Speaker 2: broadly is twenty twenty six the year of growth, and

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Speaker 2: as twenty twenty six and its year of growth as

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Speaker 2: good as it gets, are these twelve months the Golden ones.

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Speaker 1: Who news of the world in ninety second.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the world and America in particular is more than

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Speaker 2: the passing of Jesse Jackson.

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Speaker 4: When you see Jesse Jackson for my name Goeson nomination,

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Speaker 4: your name goes in nomination. I was born in a slam,

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Speaker 4: for the slam was not born in me, and the

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Speaker 4: one born in you and you.

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Speaker 3: Can make it.

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Speaker 2: He was eighty four diagnosed with Parkinson's back in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Now the Iranians have partially closed the straight up a

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Speaker 2: moosover night just to get up everyone's nose as they

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Speaker 2: have a word with the Americans in Geneva.

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Speaker 5: Ron has always been prepared to engage in meaningful and

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Speaker 5: result oriented Nico siations any sustainable agreement must ensure the

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Speaker 5: full recognition of Iran's leisure timate rights.

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Speaker 2: That was the foreign minister who was more upbig than

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Speaker 2: the main guy.

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Speaker 6: No, they keep saying we've sent an aircraft carrier towards

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Speaker 6: her own very well, an aircraft carrier is certainly a

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Speaker 6: dangerous piece of equipment, But more dangerous than the carrier

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Speaker 6: is the weapon that can sent that carrier towards the

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Speaker 6: bottom of the scene.

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Speaker 2: Surely they're going to get rid of that guy soon

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Speaker 2: than Britain. The reform as in the party anounced the

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Speaker 2: front bench former Tory Ginrick is your potential chancellor. Farage

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Speaker 2: also had to address issues around the sinc.

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Speaker 7: We'll have those disagreements in private, behind closed doors. Resolve

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Speaker 7: our issues. Resolve our disputes that naturally happen when any

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Speaker 7: group of human beings come together. But I mean, you

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Speaker 7: know I won't tolerate it publicly. We haven't got time.

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Speaker 2: To the gut research where the is increasing concern over

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Speaker 2: the number of YouTubers and so called journalists who flooded

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Speaker 8: It's not for someone that just wants to watch to

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Speaker 8: news and get a quick RecA it's for the people.

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Speaker 4: They can't get enough of it.

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Speaker 9: I wanted to make sure that there was enough people

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Speaker 9: really spotlight in the case because I'm worried some of

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Speaker 9: the authorities haven't been as.

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Speaker 10: On top of it is maybe they should have been.

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Speaker 2: From the Olympics, at the age of forty one, Alana

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Speaker 2: Myers has won the closest Mono Bob Race ever, also

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Speaker 2: becomes the oldest to get gold.

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Speaker 3: Her kids beside themselves.

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Speaker 11: I hope they were able to take it all in

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Speaker 11: and really enjoy it, and one day, you know, when

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Speaker 11: they're a little bit older, they'll see it and they'll

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Speaker 11: know that their.

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Speaker 12: Mom was Olympic champion.

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Speaker 3: Then they'll know what it means. Right now, I don't

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Speaker 3: think they can process it and know what it means exactly.

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I'd use the world in ninety It doesn't mind. You

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Speaker 2: want to believe at old state Britain's in at the

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Speaker 2: moment unemployment five point two. Of course, yes we're five

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Speaker 2: point four, which makes us even more believed, but it's

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Speaker 2: gone up again at sixteen to twenty four year old

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Speaker 2: sixteen point one percent. Having said that wages are still

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Speaker 2: rising faster than prices, but only just eleven past six.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on Radio Cow.

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Speaker 1: If the news talks.

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Speaker 2: Good morning from India, the tech companies must now be

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Speaker 2: seriously worried. So yeah, it started with Australia. This is

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Speaker 2: the band on the under sixteens, and then it moved

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Speaker 2: to the UK and it's gone to Denmark and et cetera.

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Speaker 2: So it goes India this morning. Have said we're thinking

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Speaker 2: about it too, and that's one point four billion people

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Speaker 2: obviously not below sixteen, but it's got.

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Speaker 3: To have the tech companies worried.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen pars second right, I'm sure in partner's Andrew Keller ha,

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Speaker 2: good morning, very very good morning, Mike boemchuck of Lucka

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Speaker 2: laka Lucka. I mean, come on, dairy, come to the party.

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Speaker 2: Just got to move the needle, doesn't it.

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 14: It's so another global dairy trade update overnight and after

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Speaker 14: what has been Mike, you'd have to describe it as

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Speaker 14: a very strong starts of the year, wouldn't it. A

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Speaker 14: a spectacular turnaround on the sixth of January.

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Speaker 3: Another big move in.

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Speaker 14: Early February as well, and last week the Global Dairy

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Speaker 14: still there. That has been evidenced again overnight a three

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Speaker 14: So that index now recovering most of the ground from

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Speaker 14: twenty twenty five. And fortunately for all the coissant lovers

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Speaker 14: out there, you've had a ten point seven percent lift

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Speaker 14: in butter that's average price. There's six three hundred and

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Speaker 3: Skim milk powder has been the.

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Speaker 14: Star recently that is now hitting levels we haven't seen

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Speaker 14: Whole milkpowder not quite as notable material lift from those

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Speaker 14: December lows. So yeah, that milk pound gate milk price

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Speaker 14: supply demand balance seems to indicate demand is still robust.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 2: point fifty. So I think we'll hear from Fonterra on that. Now,

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Speaker 2: Anna come on in what you gotta say?

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Speaker 13: Do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, they step up the ovens and step up and

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Speaker 14: informanst of their view on inflation, where the OCR should be,

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Speaker 14: most importantly, where they think it's going to go. Now, look,

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Speaker 14: the only comment I've making this we tend to fixate

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Speaker 14: a little bit on the level of the OCR, don't we.

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Speaker 14: I think overly so sometimes because need I remind everyone

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Speaker 14: the country and the economy has performed very well historically

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Speaker 14: with an OCR set higher than two and a quarter percent.

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Speaker 14: this is also this is not just an OCR review,

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Speaker 14: it's a full monetary policy statement. So there's a bit

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Speaker 14: of an exercise in reading this afternoon, And contrary to

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Speaker 14: not just do an AI summary. But then again, maybe

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Speaker 14: I'm a dinosaur. Look for commentators, interesting parties, economists. It's

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Speaker 14: new person at the helm. It's a tricky statement, Mike.

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Speaker 14: old guard of ore and hawksby. But the trickiness not

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Speaker 14: How are they viewing a highest starting point for inflation

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Speaker 14: What's their assessment I think you were talking just now

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Speaker 14: How fast can we grow without creating inflationary pressure? What's

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Speaker 14: the view on spare capacity? We assume that further easing

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Speaker 14: we'll give you a full report tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 3: And can't wait.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's going to be good afternoon food. So

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Speaker 2: everyone focused on the chocolate, which is the usual idiot,

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Speaker 2: the usual idiotcy around it. But they're interesting numbers something.

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Speaker 2: When something's happened in January, hasn't it January has gone weird.

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Speaker 3: It's gone weird.

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Speaker 14: We're seeing sort of quite we're seeing a sort of

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Speaker 14: an unusual sort of move in data. Sort of inflation

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Speaker 14: RBNZAIS Stats New Zealand release. These are the selected price

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Speaker 14: indexes yesterday, so you've got roughly fifty percent of the

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Speaker 14: components in there. Yeah, food prices have jumped quite a

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Speaker 14: chunky two and a half percent in January, but that

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Speaker 14: So you've now got annual food price inflation at sort

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Speaker 14: kind of a little bit problematic, and we're just we're

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Speaker 14: always interested in the categories meat, poultry and fish up

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Speaker 14: eight point nine percent, the grocery food group up four percent.

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Speaker 14: Global demand for protein, that's if you're a beef and porterhouse,

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Speaker 14: Serlo and steak eater, it's up almost twenty three percent.

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Speaker 14: And we've got the usual we've got the usual conniptions

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Speaker 14: around what's happening with white bread, which is up fifty

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Speaker 14: seven point nine percent. You know, the arms of their

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Speaker 14: donating dead takeaway coffee. I thought this will be interesting.

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Speaker 14: Average price of takeaway coffee five dollars sixteen a cup,

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Speaker 2: Here's a Chris Bishop's on after seven o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 2: The food price is coming up. Here's the thing. Here's

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Speaker 2: as usual, though the gormless focus on things like chocolate

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Speaker 2: and they go, oh, chocolate boxes are up sixty two

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Speaker 2: and you'll be amazed what it does to your inflationary story.

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Speaker 2: The upside, or the other side that I can't get

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Speaker 2: poultry and fish. You know why, of course, because we're

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Speaker 2: there's reasons and rationales behind all of this, and I

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Speaker 2: don't think we necessarily need to blame the supermarkets, although

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Speaker 1: Let's see the newsmakers and the personalities, the big names.

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Speaker 1: Talk to Mike the mic asking breakfast with al Vida,

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Speaker 1: Retirement communities, Life your Way News, togs Head been.

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Speaker 2: At full story continues into the new year. Matt Winner,

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Speaker 2: the chair and three board members have decided to wide go,

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Speaker 2: so we'll talk with Matt winnerre happens to be in Japan,

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Speaker 2: staying up late for seats with us after seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: Sue morning, good morning. Is there any point in angsting

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Speaker 2: about this? I mean, most of this for your personal

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Speaker 16: You are?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well all of those things. But look, some of

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Speaker 17: it is out of control, you know, out of you know,

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Speaker 17: anyone's control. I mean, the fact that chocolate is up

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Speaker 17: coffee a year a year ago. There's a big worldwide

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Speaker 17: it will be some of the storm damage leading into

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So there's nothing there's a lot

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Speaker 2: you've done chocolate, you've done coffee. The storm damage does

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Speaker 2: fruit and vegetables. Some fruit vegetables come down, some go up.

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Speaker 2: Restaurant meals. They're well within the band. Alcohol's well within

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Speaker 17: Look I suspect part you're right, But what I would

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Speaker 17: very high prices for meat, poultry, and fish. Now we're

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Speaker 17: good at all of those things, but we're paying international prices.

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Speaker 2: But that's good though, I mean, it's not real you

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Speaker 17: But we also you know, we've also got fact that

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Speaker 2: Given what you've said, what you've said, and given what

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Speaker 3: Has anything actually changed?

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Speaker 2: Will we just into a whole new year of complaining

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Speaker 17: Look, I'm hoping not. But you know, Nicola Willis talked

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Speaker 17: She asked for report which was meant to be given

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you, Sue Chepman, who is the

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Speaker 2: No one likes to pay more than they would like

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Speaker 2: to pay for anything. But you can explain every single

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Speaker 2: one of those numbers, from chocolate shortage, coffee shortage, beef

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Speaker 2: selling internationally, fruit and vegetables, weather related, you can explain

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Speaker 2: every single one of them without a conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: Six forty five International correspondence with ends and eye insurance

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Speaker 1: Peace of mind for New Zealand business Rich.

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Speaker 2: Donald's side by, Hey there, Michael, one of the groats.

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Speaker 3: Surely yeap.

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Speaker 18: He was a unique.

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Speaker 19: Jesse Jackson, the most influential African American leader in the

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Speaker 19: period that spanned the emergence of doctor Martin Luther King

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Speaker 19: Junior and the election as president. In no way to

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Speaker 19: Barack Obama. Jackson ran for president twice himself, carried the

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Speaker 19: torch for civil rights reforms, economic growth inverting rights. He

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Speaker 19: died in his sleep early this morning, at the age

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Speaker 19: of eighty four, and after a series of elements, including

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Speaker 19: Parkinson's in a kind of palsy. I remember his oratory.

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Speaker 19: He was a singularly powerful speaker. I was in the

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Speaker 19: San Francisco Hall when Jackson gave his eighty four convention speech,

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Speaker 19: which he concluded with this rolling craft.

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Speaker 4: Will get better and better. Cheep hoperlive, cheep hoperlive, chiep

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Speaker 4: hop alive.

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Speaker 19: That speech was hailed as an instant political classic. What

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Speaker 19: I recall is the black security guards in that hall

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Speaker 19: who burst into tears, tears of pride as Jackson took

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Speaker 19: the podium.

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Speaker 4: My constituency is the desperate, the damn the disinherited, the disrespected, and.

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Speaker 19: The despise all a part of the American quilt is

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Speaker 19: the way he put it at the time, in a

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Speaker 19: fashion that so strikingly differs from the anti immigration bitterness

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Speaker 19: of this time. Jackson was hailed at that event as

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Speaker 19: people called out his name, Jesse, Jesse. They were saying.

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Speaker 19: He came in third in the primaries, behind Senator Gary

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Speaker 19: Hart and Vice President Fritz Mondale, who lost to Ronald Reagan.

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Speaker 19: He had also veered into scandal when he used a

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Speaker 19: derogatory slang term to describe New York Jews, and he

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Speaker 19: apologized for those remarks, saying, I.

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Speaker 4: Am not a perfect servant. I am a public servant

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Speaker 4: doing my best, a guest the odds that develop, and

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Speaker 4: be patient. God is not finished.

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Speaker 3: With me yet.

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Speaker 16: Well.

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Speaker 19: Jesse Jackson ran for the White House again in nineteen

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Speaker 19: eighty eight when he was retired the front runner for

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Speaker 19: the Democrats, before losing the nod to Michael Ducocus, who

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Speaker 19: of course lost the election to Bush Senior. But Jesse

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Speaker 19: Jackson's life so often was tumultuous. He was born when

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Speaker 19: his mom was a sixteen, fathered by the next door

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Speaker 19: neighbor who was a former boxer. Jesse Jackson's theme became.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: He was also on the balcony of the Lorraine Motel

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Speaker 19: in Memphis when Doctor King was assassinated shot in the head.

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Speaker 19: Jesse Jackson then went on the Today Show here wearing

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Speaker 19: clothes that still were marked with doctor King's blood. Jesse

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Speaker 19: Jackson's family was with him this morning. His eldest son,

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Speaker 19: Jesse Juniors, hears of his father's legacy.

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Speaker 13: He called us to our authentic feld and I hope

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Speaker 13: that people will see the genuineness and who Jesse Jackson.

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Speaker 13: It's hard for me to say it.

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Speaker 16: Because my father now now it.

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Speaker 3: Was not it is but but uh.

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Speaker 16: But he gave it bolved.

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Speaker 6: He was a giant.

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Speaker 3: Indeed he was.

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Speaker 19: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They don't be seen to be able to dig themselves

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Speaker 2: out of this whole at CBS, do they.

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Speaker 19: No, it's uh, it's getting bigger and bigger the controversy.

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Speaker 19: Where about to see a rerun? Are we? What happened

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Speaker 19: to Jimmy Kimmel, the late night host who back in

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Speaker 19: September was suspended supposedly concerning comments on the death of

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Speaker 19: political active as Charlie Kirk his assassination. Kimmel later got

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Speaker 19: back on the air, but his CBS cohort Stephen Colbert,

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Speaker 19: was fired by that network and is set to do

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Speaker 19: his final show in May this year. Last night, Colbery

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Speaker 19: was planning an interview with Texas state Democratic candidate James Telrico,

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Speaker 19: but his own networks lawyers demanded that he pulled this

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Speaker 19: segment at the very last minute. On are Colbert then said,

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Speaker 19: quote because my network clearly doesn't want me to talk

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Speaker 19: about this. Let's talk about this. He then spoke of

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Speaker 19: how the Trump head of the Federal Communications Commissioned the SEC,

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Speaker 19: Brandon Carr, was trying to enforce equal time for political

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Speaker 19: guests on talk shows, and then he said, sir, you're chairman.

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Speaker 16: Of the FCC.

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Speaker 14: So FCCU, this.

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Speaker 19: As CNN's Andson Cooper says he is leaving CBS and

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Speaker 19: his flagship current of fair Show sixty minutes after almost

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Speaker 19: twenty years. This is CBS under its newly chosen boss,

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Speaker 19: Barry Weiss. The Trump supporter is adding commentators to the news,

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Speaker 19: which once was viewed as a gold standard, think back

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Speaker 19: to Walter Cronkite and Edward R.

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Speaker 3: Murrow.

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Speaker 19: One of these commentators is Peter Attia, health advisor, whose

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Speaker 19: name turns up in the Epstein files, contacting Epstein many times,

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Speaker 19: including once where he told the pedophile quote the biggest

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Speaker 19: problem with becoming friends with you the life you lead

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Speaker 19: is so outrageous, and yet I can't tell us soul.

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing a couple of days, Richard Elnsteitz. I think

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Speaker 2: about Anderson Cooper. He's claiming he's leaving for his kids.

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Speaker 2: He wants to spend more time with his kids, and

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Speaker 2: no one's believing, which then goes to his integrity because

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Speaker 2: either he is leaving to spend more time with his kids,

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Speaker 2: which is laudable, or he's a sellout and he doesn't

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Speaker 2: want to tell the truth one or the other. Jesse

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Speaker 2: Jackson was on this program, by the way, so you

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Speaker 2: would see his contribution far greater outside the ring than

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Speaker 2: inside the ring.

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Speaker 16: Well, no, you can't separate them because his greatness in

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Speaker 16: the ring, they give him a platform to be heard

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Speaker 16: outside the ring when we were marching and being jailed

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Speaker 16: across the South. His exploits in the ring made him

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Speaker 16: a figure of inspiration.

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Speaker 13: He'd be looked up to him.

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Speaker 16: He used the championship platform to become a hero of

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Speaker 16: social justice, of both important. If he had been a

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Speaker 16: loser in the ring, papped alone would have heard him

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Speaker 16: in the first place, the greatest box of our time,

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Speaker 16: maybe all the time. In addition that a sarcrificial cervity

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Speaker 16: in law, those two kind of come together.

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Speaker 2: It was the funeral of Muhammad Ali, and we thought,

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Speaker 2: when we ring Jesse Jackson, see if he answers the phone.

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Speaker 2: We rangesy texiting outs to the phone, so we ask

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Speaker 2: some questions. It was back in twenty sixteen, nine away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 1: The mic Hosking breakfast with Veda Retirement Communities News togs

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Speaker 1: head been Mike, you.

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Speaker 2: Do well to listen to who chet when good protein

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Speaker 2: is fast becoming beyond reach of every day kiwis El.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that she raised that necessarily, but you

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Speaker 2: make a good point. But it's a completely separate subject

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Speaker 2: and doesn't and doesn't address you, know, why the prices

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Speaker 2: are going up? Mike, I agree with you regarding the

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Speaker 2: reasons for current food prices, but these are the reasons

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Speaker 2: that Luxon needs to coherently communicate to the wider public,

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Speaker 2: because there is no doubt some people will both labor

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Speaker 2: simply based on the cost of butter, and then that

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Speaker 2: is the lale politique.

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Speaker 3: Of course. Five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Ins and the Outs. It's the beers with business favor.

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Speaker 1: Take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Housing catality fab monthly housing chart pack. Not only a report,

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Speaker 2: now it's a whole pack.

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Speaker 3: You get a whole pack.

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Speaker 2: It's exciting times shows median values fell zero point three

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Speaker 2: for the three months to January. So let's call that

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Speaker 2: flat puts values at seventeen point five percent below twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two peak. It also shows prices down one percent

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Speaker 2: year on year, so you can see by that forget

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Speaker 2: the peak that's years ago, so one percent of the year,

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Speaker 2: zero point three percent for the quarter, So she's flattening

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Speaker 2: out nicely and the increase will start to follow. Worst

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Speaker 2: performing main centers Wellington prices are down a quarter basically

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Speaker 2: since twenty twenty two, christ Juts down three point six

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Speaker 2: off peak, So in other words, for the last handful

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Speaker 2: of years, a year on the up and up for

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Speaker 2: obvious reasons. Activity sales volumes are down ten percent compared

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Speaker 2: with January last year, and that's only the third drop

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Speaker 2: of the last thirty three months. Generally, sales sales numbers

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Speaker 2: are pretty good because there's lots to choose from out there.

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Speaker 3: Broader picture.

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Speaker 2: December was better than expected, so if you average out

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Speaker 2: the two months, is still a trend of rising activity.

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Speaker 2: First home buyers, they've dipped slightly, but they're still really

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Speaker 2: well represented twenty six point two percent. It was twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: but that's record break and that's just nuts. So it's

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Speaker 2: back down to twenty six point two percent. So there's

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Speaker 2: plenty of first time eys out there, rentals, strong growth

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Speaker 2: and rents golde flat or falling. Most rents around the

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Speaker 2: country are starting to go backwards or at least flat,

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Speaker 2: which means there's more stock in the market, of course,

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Speaker 2: which means you get better choice, which means the price

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Speaker 2: pressure isn't what it was, so people who rent will

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Speaker 2: be I'm assuming reasonably please. There we come to the infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: It's gargantuan, it's shocking, it's depressing. Its third world, it's

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Speaker 2: Banana Republic, it's small village idiot stuff. But anyway, we've

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Speaker 2: got to do something about it. Chris Bishop is the

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Speaker 2: man in charge of the infrastructure.

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Speaker 1: Credible, compelling, the breakfast show you can't bess, it's the

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Speaker 1: mic hosting Breakfast with the Defender, Embrace the Impossible News

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Speaker 1: to sad.

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Speaker 3: Be past seven.

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Speaker 2: So the headline graber out of the infrastructure plan is

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Speaker 2: of course the Auckland Harbor Bridge at nine dollars a pop.

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Speaker 2: Outside of that, we look like a poor country with

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Speaker 2: a lot of crap stuff that doesn't work well, and

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Speaker 2: we need to fix it. Chris Bishop as the Infrastructure

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Speaker 2: Minister and is with us. Good morning if you were

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Speaker 2: down in the dumps about this country and you were

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Speaker 2: thinking of leaving for Australia, your report yesterday doesn't really

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Speaker 2: help anyone, does it.

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Speaker 10: Well, it's a great way to start. It's look, it's

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Speaker 10: a sobering report in the sense that you know there

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Speaker 10: are big problems in his old infrastructure system. Central government

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Speaker 10: owns billions of dollars worth of assets. We don't really

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Speaker 10: know what we own. We don't look after what we own.

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Speaker 10: We do a poor job of working out if we're

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Speaker 10: building the right stuff.

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Speaker 3: So you're right.

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Speaker 10: On the other hand, there's lots of things in his

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Speaker 10: Zeland infrastructure that are really good, and there's lots of

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Speaker 10: things we've built over the years that are incredible, and

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Speaker 10: we've been world leaders and things like electricity, transmission cables

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Speaker 10: and things like that. So we are living on the

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Speaker 10: legacy of our ancestors, but we've got a lot of

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Speaker 10: work to do to build the future for.

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Speaker 3: His own right.

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Speaker 2: So I'm watching the news last night and they do

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Speaker 2: those moronic clips of people in the street, and he

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Speaker 2: was telling me that he goes to the North Shore

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Speaker 2: quite a bit to pick up some stuff from Facebook marketplace,

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Speaker 2: so he doesn't want to pay the nine dollars? Is

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Speaker 2: that who you're facing and who you're trying to convince

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Speaker 2: to pay nine dollars?

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Speaker 10: Well, look, the reality is asking people to pay pay

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Speaker 10: for pay more for things, or pay for things is difficult.

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Speaker 10: And we've we've pushed the boat out quite a bit

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Speaker 10: as a government on tolling and that's because ultimately roads

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Speaker 10: have to be paid for and we've tried to move

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Speaker 10: the system towards more of a user pays model and

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Speaker 10: we think that's fair. The original Harbor Bridge in Auckland

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Speaker 10: was of course paid for with a toll and we've

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Speaker 10: just signaled quite clearly that when you're dropping you know

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Speaker 10: billions and billions of dollars, which is what the second

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Speaker 10: Harbor crossing will be. The biggest infrastructure project ever built

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Speaker 10: in New Zealand. That's a project where we do think

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Speaker 10: it will end up being told because that's a fair

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Speaker 10: way of paying for the project.

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Speaker 3: There's no other way around it.

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Speaker 2: I mean Labour can't come back with no, we're not

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Speaker 2: tolling and we'll just borrow. Can't They mean that the

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Speaker 2: numbers are too big to borrow. It's good, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: It has to be exactly right.

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Speaker 10: Look, here's the reality. Roads and in fact, all infrastructure

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Speaker 10: has to be paid for.

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Speaker 18: It has to be.

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Speaker 10: And you can use user charges for that through tolling,

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Speaker 10: or through petrol tax or a combination of both, which

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Speaker 10: is essentially what we do. You can borrow for that,

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Speaker 10: but of course that has to be paid for too.

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Speaker 10: Money is not from Despite what the Labor Party think,

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Speaker 10: debt is not free. We already have a huge amount

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Speaker 10: of debt that was built up during the COVID years

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Speaker 10: that has to be repaid, and we are desperately as

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Speaker 10: a government getting the books back in order so that

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Speaker 10: when the next shot comes along, the next cyclon Gabrielle

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Speaker 10: or whatever, we're in a position where we can actually

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Speaker 10: deal with it. At the moment, of course, we're a

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Speaker 10: very vulnerable situation, and the Treasury says we've got to

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Speaker 10: keep the debt levels under control, otherwise our international borrowing

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Speaker 10: costs will go up, and then everybody's interest rates will

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Speaker 10: go up, and then you're in Banana Republic, directoris you are?

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Speaker 10: Then you can't even meet you can't even meet the

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Speaker 10: debt repayments and what you've already.

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Speaker 3: Borrowed, it'll never happen.

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Speaker 2: But I'll ask the question anyway, do we need to

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Speaker 2: take this sort of thing beyond the politician? In other words,

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Speaker 2: we need to in some countries do it. You lock

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Speaker 2: it into law and big decisions are made and the

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Speaker 2: new government simply has to live with it.

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Speaker 3: That's life.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise we're never going to go anywhere.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's partly why I commissioned the Infrastructure Plan. I mean,

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Speaker 10: this all came about because we campaigned on having a

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Speaker 10: long term, bipartisan, independent view of our infrastructure needs and

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Speaker 10: our assets and what we need to do. That that's

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Speaker 10: why this report's being talked about. So we've kind of

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Speaker 10: started that process and we're intending to work with the

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Speaker 10: opposition around the government response to the plan.

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Speaker 2: You can't you can't look at them because they're idiots.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for goodness sake. I mean, look, they're already

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Speaker 2: arguing over the roads of national significance. They're they're they're

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Speaker 2: playing dumb games with the f t A on India.

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Speaker 2: They're they're not they're not big picture people. They're not

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Speaker 2: serious people.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, look it's you sound like Logan Roy. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: I mean it's it's been a it has been a

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Speaker 10: bit frustrating. In the last couple of days they've been

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Speaker 10: saying things like we haven't been briefed on the plan

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Speaker 10: when they have. So look, we're going to We're going

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Speaker 10: to make a put our best foot forward and try

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Speaker 10: and try and sort of come up with something that

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Speaker 10: is sensible for the country that the opposition can buy into.

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Speaker 10: There'll always be a bit of politics, and you know,

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Speaker 10: look it's a bon fight. It's election yet there'll be

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Speaker 10: a bit of backwards and forwards. But you know, I

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Speaker 10: think my feeling from the public is they genuinely want

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Speaker 10: us to try and nail these problems. I spent an

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Speaker 10: enormous amount of my time with Nicola working on fixing

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Speaker 10: the foundations of the system, things like asset register's long

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Speaker 10: term plans, assurance functions inside the system.

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Speaker 3: It's boring.

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Speaker 10: No one will ever you know, no one's ever going

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Speaker 10: to write up a press release I put out about it.

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Speaker 10: But it's extremely important to fixing you know what we've

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Speaker 10: got in the old.

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Speaker 2: Yes it is, appreciate it. Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop eleven

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Speaker 2: minutes past seven, scaring it a new resilience index when

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Speaker 2: it comes to infrastructure this morning, this is different the

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Speaker 2: Government's planned Auckland and Northland turns out of the most

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Speaker 2: vulnerable regions. We're looking at things like energy, roads, water, communications,

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Speaker 2: all that sort of thing. Murray Robinson is the down

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Speaker 2: and Managing Director for this country and well there's Murray

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Speaker 2: morning good. So one of the reports says more proactive investment.

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Speaker 2: That's a mindset shift in this country because we're ambulance

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Speaker 2: at the bottom of the cliff people, aren't we.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess that, as Minister Bishop just talked about,

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Speaker 8: it's actually getting the data right and making sure that

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Speaker 8: we're looking at proactive investments. I think you know, the

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Speaker 8: findings of this report, as you pointed out, do highlight

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Speaker 8: Auckland and north And being exposed and that's really driven

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Speaker 8: by our resilience or lack of in terms of electricity,

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Speaker 8: which the other infrastructs our sectors really rely on.

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Speaker 2: Are we exposed Auckland and north and for different reagion.

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Speaker 2: Is Northland a bit of a sketchy region. It's rural,

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Speaker 2: it's isolated. Auckland's just a big city with its big

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Speaker 2: city problems or are they all the same problems?

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Speaker 8: The main issue really that Auckland and Northland face is

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Speaker 8: the reliance on electricity, which as you know lastly comes

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Speaker 8: from hydro in the south. So it's the distance from

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Speaker 8: those electricity transmission lines compounded by I guess the increasing

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Speaker 8: amount of heavy weather.

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Speaker 2: Events fixed once we have the solar and the batteries

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Speaker 2: in the wind.

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Speaker 8: I think the reality is that hydro is such a

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Speaker 8: large contribution to that. So the key thing there is

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Speaker 8: actually trying to get that reticulation closer to those key networks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you think we'll ever do that? Do you

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Speaker 2: think we're capable as you sit as in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and Matray, do you think we're genuinely capable of grasping

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Speaker 2: the enormity of what we have and doing something about

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Speaker 2: it as opposed to just talking about it?

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Speaker 13: No, I do you know do?

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Speaker 8: I think New Zealand has an amazing ability to you know,

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Speaker 8: put in place strong plans and I think if you

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Speaker 8: talk about what Minister Bishop just explained, I think getting

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Speaker 8: that data right is really key, and I think the

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Speaker 8: balance of proactive banks and it's is really really key.

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Speaker 8: That's one of the key findings of this report is

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Speaker 8: getting that right. And as you know, in the trust

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Speaker 8: plan that's come out it's getting the balance of that

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Speaker 8: proactive maintenance with the right rebuilding and building back better.

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Speaker 2: All right, Murray, appreciate your time very much, Murray Robinson,

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Speaker 2: who's the down in managing director. It's all related to

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Speaker 2: the economy, of course, and what sort of state we're

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Speaker 2: in economically speaking. This is where doctor Randa turns up today,

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Speaker 2: but we'll get the forecast for her call later on

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. In the moment fourteen past the.

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Speaker 2: It's chief economist and is with us Mike morning. It

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Speaker 2: has changed, hasn't it. In the ensuing period there was

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Speaker 2: a possibility once we'd get a cut this year, all

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Speaker 2: of that's off the table.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it.

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Speaker 13: That's right.

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Speaker 9: I think this meeting today is going to be about

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Speaker 9: basically swapping out that mild easing bias that the bank

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Speaker 9: mild tightening.

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Speaker 2: BIAUS tightening bias. By when when's a move up?

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Speaker 9: Do you think, well, in the forecast, we've got September

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Speaker 9: of this year and then another in December. I mean,

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Speaker 9: that might be a bit far for the bank to

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Speaker 9: move just today. We think I'll probably want to signal

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Speaker 9: a height by about December of this year. So still

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Speaker 9: you know, a lot of wiggle room, given things can

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Speaker 9: change in that period of time. But equally, the changes

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Speaker 2: If she says today, by the end of the year,

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Speaker 2: we're probably going to increase interest rates. If she says

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Speaker 2: that materially, do people then get depressed and freak out

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Speaker 2: and whatever recovery we've got going stalls?

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Speaker 9: No, because I think she would essentially be validating where

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Speaker 9: the market's got to already. I mean, I think if

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Speaker 9: you look at market pricing, actually there's a strong chance

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Speaker 9: of an October September hike being factored in, and that's

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Speaker 9: obviously built into Morga tracks as they stand. So no,

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Speaker 9: I think that the markets are already there in some

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Speaker 9: hattep or validation from We'll see.

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Speaker 2: What does that say if you're right, she's right and

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Speaker 2: that's what happens. What does it say about the capacity

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Speaker 2: of an economy that barely struggles to life. We're gasping

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Speaker 2: for breath and then all of a sudden we've got

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Speaker 2: too much growth. In other words, we can't grow before

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's a really interesting thing to watch

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Speaker 9: from here is where that speed limit is. I mean,

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Speaker 9: And I say the news on that front recently has

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Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting to see and it might

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Speaker 2: appreciate it, Mike Giants, who's the Benz chief Economist, Mike,

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Speaker 2: Hipkins is no Helen Clark. And then that is a

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Speaker 2: great sadness. And for all those who occasionally contact me

873
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Speaker 2: and ask the possibility of a so called grand coalition,

874
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: a relationship between the Labour in the national parties, next

875
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: time before you ask, look at the way Hipkins plays

876
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: these games, and there's your answer. Even in areas of

877
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: broad agreement, they still can't act like grown ups. It's

878
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: also a lesson in name be substance. The Labour Party

879
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: of the past few years is nothing like Labour of

880
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: the late nineties nearly two thousands that was a centrist version.

881
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, they.

882
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Speaker 2: Still hand it out free money to people like students

883
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: to bribe them an election year, but the rest of

884
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: the time they actually ran the economy and growth. They

885
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 2: mean compared to Edmonds Cullen was a conservative Our. Labour

886
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: in the early parts of eighty four with LONGI was similar.

887
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: And here is your irony that Hipkins fails to recognize

888
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: Labour when they are broadly speaking middle of the road

889
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: are actually popular. Ask Bob Hawk or Paul Keating or

890
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: Tony Blair. Centrist labor is successful Labour. By the time

891
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: you take modern labor with Hipkins and zeppalone, you add

892
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: the Greens in the mix, you see the left wing

893
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: group think that not only keeps them out of office

894
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: but leads to the sort of game playing we've got

895
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: with the FTA. Yes, the government probably shouldn't have to

896
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Speaker 2: rely on them, and for all the games that Labour

897
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: plays in New Zealand four is just as bad with

898
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: their xenophobic nonsense. But Labour once had a global view.

899
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Speaker 2: It's not like the Chinese think back to it. It's

900
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: not like the Chinese weren't thought of with great suspicion

901
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 2: prior to two thousand and eight, But the bigger picture

902
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: was at play. The realization that large countries and their

903
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: economies could be good for everyone was a driving force.

904
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Speaker 2: What Labor would do well to do is put this

905
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Speaker 2: country first, not score points, not look like children, not

906
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Speaker 2: pretend they actually had anything to do with negotiating in

907
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: this thing at all. FTAs are big picture, not a

908
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: three year electoral cycle game. I don't think I'm alone

909
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 2: these days and wishing there were more adults in the room.

910
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: Labor ninety nine through two thousand and eight put the

911
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: current lot to shame pasking, which ironically is where Ginny

912
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: comes in.

913
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 20: Does she agree with Mike Hoskings of News Talk ZB

914
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Speaker 20: who said, quote.

915
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 12: You're on the show every week, get it what aqualities?

916
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

917
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: I think that was Bishop in the background. You're on

918
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Speaker 2: the show every week, get it right, personally getting my name.

919
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 2: There's a no consequence to me whatsoever. But you think

920
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Speaker 2: she might have worked that one out anyway. Speaker gave

921
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Speaker 2: her another chance.

922
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Speaker 20: Does she agree with Mike Hosking of News Talk ZB

923
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Speaker 20: who said, quote, the job stat for a government relying

924
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 20: on economic credibility took a right hook and will be

925
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Speaker 20: dazed if not.

926
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Speaker 2: Why not wasn't a bad question. Nicola got there, and

927
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Speaker 2: I'll come back to that in the moment, and she

928
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Speaker 2: let wrap two hundred and thirty seven thousand, by the way,

929
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Speaker 2: in fact, let's make it two hundred and thirty eight thousand.

930
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Speaker 2: So this report tells us that we are getting towards

931
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Speaker 2: the end of our ability to simply borrow more money

932
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Speaker 2: to do stuff. This is net core Crown debt. It

933
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Speaker 2: is forecast. Unless we do something radically to reach two

934
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Speaker 2: hundred percent of GDP by twenty sixty five, that would

935
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Speaker 2: be two hundred and thirty seven, nine hundred dollars for

936
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Speaker 2: each and every one of us. It's not doable.

937
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Speaker 3: Mike.

938
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Speaker 2: Why do you think we had a Ministry of Works

939
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Speaker 2: to look after New Zealand's infrastructure build and maintenance has

940
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: been downhill ever since Roger Douglas scraped it. Bret, you wrong,

941
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Speaker 2: You're one hundred percent wrong. Whatever the name was, whatever

942
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: the department was, is irrelevant. What it boils down to

943
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: is political attitude, fiscal attitude, and what you're funding is

944
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 2: how you fund is the key, not what the department's called.

945
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Speaker 3: Mike.

946
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Speaker 2: The reality is we're in the situation with infrastructure because

947
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Speaker 2: we haven't invested enough in it for years. All the

948
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: nice to haves bugger all on the mustabs, I think

949
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: and that we broadly speaking agree. It's speaking a broken

950
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 2: netball New Zealand. You had a look at that lately.

951
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: CEO went just before Christmas time. Nicely Matt Winner raised

952
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: the chair. He's the latest to quit. Why how what's

953
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: he learned out.

954
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Speaker 3: Of all with this? He's well, that's after the news,

955
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Speaker 3: which is.

956
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 1: Next no fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic

957
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential,

958
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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news.

959
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: Togs Head been Politics Wednesday, after ad Mark and Jinny

960
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: in twenty three minutes away from a Netmore drama not

961
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: finished yet. CEO just went before Christmas.

962
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Speaker 3: Of course.

963
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: Now we got a board clean out, three members as

964
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Speaker 2: well as the chair.

965
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: The chair is Matt Wendray. Who's with us? Good morning

966
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: morning Mite.

967
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Speaker 2: Do you go willingly or have you been pushed?

968
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Speaker 18: Oh no, this is this is my decision as it

969
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 18: is with my fellow board members. Just reflected on the

970
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 18: period that we've had the challenges that we've had and

971
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 18: think that a change now will create some space for

972
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Speaker 18: some press press perspectives and new energy and momentum. And

973
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Speaker 18: I think also especially from a chair perspective, it's it's

974
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 18: really important from an incoming CEO perspective that they understand

975
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 18: who it is that they're going to be working with.

976
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Speaker 18: And that's why it's important for us to appoint a

977
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 18: new chair now. My tenure as a chair, the nine

978
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 18: years comes up right at the start of next year,

979
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 18: so so good time to do it now and enable

980
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 18: that new chair to be part of that process.

981
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: Did you do it collectively as a group the three

982
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: others as well? Did somebody you know you get together

983
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: over a drink and go, how about we all bail

984
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: on this and this would be good for the sport?

985
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: Or did it come into visually?

986
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 18: I think all the board members have had their own reflections.

987
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 18: We have been talking about about our individual positions and

988
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 18: also understanding and acknowledging that there's there's an expectation of

989
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 18: some change in the leadership from from the from the community,

990
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 18: and it's come from those sort of individual reflections that

991
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Speaker 18: that we've reached this position from in terms of the

992
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 18: board change.

993
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: How did it come to what it came to?

994
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 18: In your view, Ah, Look, I think everybody, everybody in

995
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 18: these processes is always trying to do the right thing,

996
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 18: by by, by the sport, and we ended up in

997
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 18: a position where we ultimately were able to find a

998
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 18: way forward. But what what we did along the way is, Look,

999
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 18: I think we can learn. We can certainly learn, and

1000
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 18: we know that our community cation could be better and

1001
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 18: at crucial times in this in this process, you know

1002
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 18: you're trying to balance the obligations that you have with

1003
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 18: the need to keep people informed. I know that we

1004
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 18: could have brought our stakeholders along more effectively, and I

1005
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 18: know that we have some stakeholders who felt that they

1006
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 18: were unheard. So so I think you don't think there's

1007
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 18: a combination of a bunch of things. It's never one

1008
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 18: It's never one thing with these types of situations, and

1009
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 18: I think that's that's why we found ourselves in a

1010
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 18: particularly challenging period through the back half the next year

1011
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 18: last year.

1012
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: Who regrets over Noline.

1013
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 18: Ah, yeah, Look, I think you know, I regret that

1014
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 18: I regret the hurt and that that's been failed in

1015
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 18: the network community. I regret the time that we've spent

1016
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 18: on this whole process, where we could have used all

1017
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 18: of that effort and all of that energy in focusing forward,

1018
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 18: and that's really what we're trying to do now is

1019
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 18: create some space, to create some some forward momentum. We've

1020
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 18: got a big couple of years ahead of US Calm

1021
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 18: Games obviously, and the premiership can start in April Netbil

1022
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 18: World Cup next year, and it's important to be able

1023
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 18: to create a reset, an opportunity to focus on all

1024
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 18: of that for everybody involved, including on me.

1025
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: Was it, in your view, Matt, the individuals and the

1026
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: way you guys handled the problem or was it the

1027
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: problem that's the problem.

1028
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 18: I think I think everybody was working with the best

1029
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 18: intentions in mind. I think in these things you're always

1030
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 18: up against some time pressures which potentially limit the options

1031
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 18: that you have, and so I think I think, you know,

1032
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 18: everybody was doing what they could and work with the

1033
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 18: best interest of netball at heart. But we ended up

1034
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 18: in that position given given the constraints around timing, and

1035
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 18: I think that's that's that's been the that's been the challenge.

1036
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 18: Like I said, look, there's certainly stuff that we we

1037
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 18: can learn from this process and will continue to reflect

1038
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 18: on that. And this is a represent reflection of that

1039
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 18: of those reflections as well, Have.

1040
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Speaker 2: You got a view on sport generally, It seems that

1041
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: sport admin in this country has hit some sort of

1042
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: wall between the rugby and the cricket and the netball

1043
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: and probably some others as well. At the administrative level,

1044
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: something's not right. Is that fair or not?

1045
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 18: I think it's a tough I think it's a tough

1046
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 18: gig sport administration. I think you think about you think

1047
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 18: about the commercial environment that everybody's operating, and that is

1048
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 18: a that is a really challenging place to be and

1049
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 18: and you've got you're trying to balance the commercial environment

1050
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 18: with managing the high performance environment. I think I think

1051
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 18: it is it requires particular set of skills and you know,

1052
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 18: I think I think that's just that's really challenging. And

1053
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 18: it's a reflection that you see that if you see

1054
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Speaker 18: it across across the board that I can really only

1055
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 18: speak for the netball, but yeah, yeah, it's a it's

1056
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 18: a tough gig, all.

1057
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Speaker 2: Right, Matt appreciate it. Matt Winerray out of while he's

1058
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Speaker 2: out of Japan. As it turns out, in the early

1059
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Speaker 2: hours of Japanese morning, while there's some massive pauses there. Mike,

1060
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Speaker 2: how many train whistles. We don't do train whistles. We

1061
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Speaker 2: do clown cars and trucks, but we can introduce the

1062
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: train whistle. I'm not saying we're not open to blue

1063
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Speaker 2: skying this one, Mike. All four appointed Knitball and New

1064
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: Zealand directors have resigned. All four elected directors remain. That

1065
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: tells the story. Matt Winner, Ray and co. Clearly was pushed.

1066
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Speaker 2: There's been one of the worst periods of Nitball, if

1067
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Speaker 2: not the worst. Seventeen to two.

1068
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Speaker 1: The mic asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1069
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1070
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Speaker 13: It'd be.

1071
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Speaker 2: Forty five back to Ginny in the house yesterday. So

1072
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Speaker 2: she was trying she was trying to weaponize me. Basically,

1073
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Speaker 2: That's what was going on. She's trying to weaponize me,

1074
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: and she got my name wrong. When she did get

1075
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Speaker 2: my name right, she asked this.

1076
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Speaker 20: Does she agree with Mike Hosking of News Talk z B,

1077
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Speaker 20: who said, quote the job stat for a government relying

1078
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 20: on economic credibility took a right hook and will be

1079
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Speaker 20: dazed if not.

1080
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Speaker 12: Why not?

1081
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Speaker 2: The sad thing about that question was it wasn't even

1082
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Speaker 2: a quote of mine. It was the job stat didn't

1083
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Speaker 2: take the right hook. I said the government would have

1084
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Speaker 2: taken the right hook, not the job stats. Anyway, Be

1085
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: that as it may into Nicola.

1086
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Speaker 21: Well, mister speaker, what a thing for that member to

1087
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Speaker 21: quote Mike cost Game, because I'm sure she'll appreciate that

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Speaker 21: he suddenly had some choice words about her and every

1089
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 21: single one of the colleagues along that front.

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Speaker 22: Bench and the mess of a job they did in government.

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Speaker 22: But if she wishes to selectively quote him, I would

1092
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Speaker 22: also point out that I did an interview with him

1093
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 22: on this very subject and he agreed that, yes, the

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00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 22: underlying conditions do suggest unemployment will be coming down. But

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Speaker 22: isn't it a shame that people will always highlight that

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Speaker 22: headline stat. But Mike Costking to toe your team my team.

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Speaker 12: I think we know who'd come out on top.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Mike, Mike, did you hear Willie call you a traitor?

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Speaker 3: Reyes?

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Speaker 2: Funnily enough, I did. I chet gpt'ed whether calling someone

1101
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: as a traitor is libelous. It is unless, unfortunately, and

1102
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 2: this is what chet GPT told me, unless in the

1103
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: heat of political discourse, you can mount privilege or protected

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00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: opinion as the illegal term protected opinion, So he's entitled

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00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: to his opinion that I am a traitor. So for now, Willy,

1106
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sue you.

1107
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: Probably he also got your name wrong, did you notice?

1108
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: But he's he's a moron.

1109
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: There is more on libelist. I don't believe so protected opinion?

1110
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: What about dickhead?

1111
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 3: Willie?

1112
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: Is dickheader now a protected opinion? Problem with infrastructure in

1113
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: New Zealand, Mike, because a lot of it gets completely

1114
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: stuffed up by local councils and then the government has

1115
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: to do it again. I'm very glad you raise that

1116
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: because I wanted to raise it with Bishop but I

1117
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 2: didn't have time. And moap point is your classic example.

1118
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: So the central government launches the inquiry. Why because the

1119
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 2: local government are clearly useless. If local governments are useless,

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00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: and by and large they are not everyone but mainly,

1121
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 2: and that's why we've got the problems they are. It's

1122
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: always the central government that has to clean up the problem.

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00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: So why do we have cral local government with so

1124
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 2: much power if they can't do the job properly? Which

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00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: is not a bad question. So, Mike, the voters need

1126
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: to hear more in depth information such as we just

1127
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 2: heard from Chris Bishop on how New Zealand's being moved forward,

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00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 2: not just the headline.

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00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: Of the week.

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00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. But I might be

1131
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: getting old and dilapidated because I was watching us talking

1132
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: about this with Sammy this morning. And Sammy's eighteen years old. Now,

1133
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: ye had his birthday the other day, so he's one

1134
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: of the youngins. And I said, is it just me,

1135
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: Sammy or I'm watching the news last night? Gave the

1136
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: example the Bishop, I'm watching the news last night is

1137
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: the six o'clock news. And I remind you once again,

1138
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 2: I only watch it because I have to, because all

1139
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: the stuff they had these days, because there's no journalists left,

1140
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: it's all rip and read stuff that you've read and

1141
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: seen throughout the day on the radio and read and

1142
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: the various webs newswire services. Anyway, there's not an original

1143
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: story there on the six o'clock news anymore? Is the

1144
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: six o'clock news just really for idiots? In other words,

1145
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: So the guy they had on the little vox pop,

1146
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: so they go, would you pay nine dollars across the bridge?

1147
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: They go to some clown who's standing on a corner

1148
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: at two o'clock in the afternoon with nothing better to do,

1149
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: and talk to a camera, and he goes, no, I

1150
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 2: get a lot on my Facebook stuff across the bridge

1151
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: and the shore, so I won't pay nine dollars. So

1152
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 2: he's on Facebook marketplace. I get a lot on my

1153
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: Facebook marketplace across the bridge, so I can't do that.

1154
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: Now what does that tell me? I mean, apart from

1155
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: the fact New Zealand has too many clowns, it doesn't

1156
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 2: advance the cause, It doesn't answer a question, it doesn't

1157
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: enlighten me, it doesn't give me any detail, it doesn't

1158
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: educate me.

1159
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: So what's the point I reckon?

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00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 15: He's paid at least nine dollars too much for whatever

1161
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 15: he bought on faceboo got marketplace.

1162
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 3: By those sides of things, sick of it.

1163
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: There are a lot of idiots, thank you. Ten minutes

1164
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: away from it, the mic.

1165
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: Hosking breakfast with the Defender and news togs.

1166
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: Deadb sipping away from it.

1167
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 2: So Open Star Technologies have taken a serious step in

1168
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: the global race for nuclear fusion. So they've successfully levitated

1169
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: a half ton superconducting magnet. That's a key milestone to

1170
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: recreating what they're chasing Ratu Matara. Doctor Ratu Matara is

1171
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: the chief executive at open Star Technologies, and it's with us,

1172
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Speaker 2: Ratu morning.

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Speaker 15: I'm worrying, mate, Now what Oh, that's a great question.

1174
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 15: So I think a big piece of us is that

1175
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 15: we've proven that the engineering can be done. So like

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00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 15: getting a magnet like this to levitate is something that

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Speaker 15: people broadly thought was impossible. But the machine that we've

1178
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 15: built here doesn't push any aspect to the maximum. So

1179
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 15: we could have built a more powerful magnet, We could

1180
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 15: have had a better vacuum chain, we could have had

1181
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 15: a more powerful heating system, but all of that would

1182
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 15: have cost money that we didn't have right at the start.

1183
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 15: And so now that we've hit this milestone, it's time

1184
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 15: to take the next step, build our next machine and

1185
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 15: push those different aspects of a design to their maximum,

1186
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 15: most the strongest magnet, we can have, the best heating system,

1187
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 15: and really push for performance and just how hot we

1188
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 15: can get these plasmas.

1189
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 2: Is there an ownership in what you're doing in terms

1190
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: of patents and once you crack it then it's yours

1191
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: or is this just a global thing that will all

1192
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 2: benefit from eventually?

1193
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 15: I think that's a matter of timeframe. But if you

1194
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 15: ask us at open Star, we called it open Star

1195
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 15: for a reason. We actually try to be as open

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00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 15: and collaborative with other companies in the space who are

1197
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 15: pursuing other approaches to fusion. But with respect to VIP,

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00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 15: we really try to protect the thing that makes open

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Speaker 15: Star special, which is this levitated dipole machine that we

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Speaker 15: are building, and so we file for patterns protection know

1201
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 15: how about how to build these machines and very surprised

1202
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 15: if others could figure it out in practice without our expertise,

1203
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 15: without the access to those patterns, And so we protect

1204
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 15: our core IP while still building partnerships at a global level.

1205
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: That's super exciting. If you get to will you get

1206
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: to fusion in your lifetime?

1207
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, absolutely no.

1208
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 15: I wouldn't be doing it if I didn't think that

1209
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 15: was true.

1210
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: And when we get there, then what's it solved? And

1211
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: how transformative is it?

1212
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 15: I think a really big thing is we need an access.

1213
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 15: We need access to a type of energy that doesn't

1214
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 15: pollute the world, and that is abundant and in particular

1215
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 15: disconnected from kind of the luck of a draw as

1216
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 15: to where say fuel was, So the fuels that we

1217
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 15: use for fusion are abundant. We will never run out

1218
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 15: of them, and you don't have to be a special country,

1219
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 15: you know, to dig it out of the ground. And

1220
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 15: I think that really changes the way that energy impacts

1221
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 15: for world. So not only can we live in a cleaner,

1222
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 15: greener world, not only can we have more abundant and

1223
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 15: cheaper energy, but we can also stop being held to

1224
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 15: ransom by say less friendly countries that happen to have

1225
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 15: a lot of it, and start having everybody act the

1226
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 15: way they should.

1227
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: Fantastic, good on, You're right, You're nice to talk to

1228
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 2: you again, doctor Rutter and Matyra. Who's the Open Star CEO?

1229
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: That's lift of my spirits? No end, that's in the hut.

1230
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: By the way, they're in the hut.

1231
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 3: There's something going on in the hut, isn't there? Well?

1232
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: According to the Herald, pizza shops are closing. But yeah,

1233
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: there's some good stuff going on in the hut as well.

1234
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 3: And we know that and Patoni as well. Jackson's Jackson Street.

1235
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: I don't know that Open Stars not in Jackson Street.

1236
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 2: I didn't Google map them. They could be in Jackson Street,

1237
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: emailed my mother last night about the weather, because we're

1238
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: obsessed about the weather in this country as well. She goes, well,

1239
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 2: friends at Governor's Bay are stuck there. The bank above

1240
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: their drive collapsed and blocked them in. So bad news

1241
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: news coverage. But I said, score this out of ten,

1242
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: She goes, well, a point five for drama team for

1243
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: how cold it is in February, but team forgiving my

1244
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: garden enough rain for a week or three. Sir, that's

1245
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: mum's report on the weather in the last couple of days.

1246
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: News is next, asking the questions others won't the mic

1247
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: asking breakfast with Alvida, retirement, communities, life your way, news

1248
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: talks dead be that's life.

1249
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 7: That's what all people say.

1250
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 3: Gee, that's good. Friday four, isn't it? You're riding high?

1251
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 3: It shot down.

1252
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: He's recorded this at his home studio too. Would be

1253
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: nice to have a home studio. Before I tell you

1254
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 2: who this is, listen to this.

1255
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 11: What can Luca break to this final Let's see coming

1256
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 11: in hopping switch and looking over that right shoulder and

1257
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 11: winding up for the switch right triple.

1258
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 3: Wow, so much control.

1259
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 5: On that one and speed. Clearly he harnessed that he sa.

1260
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: Wow, put it down I was insane.

1261
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 11: Oh my goodness, Luca Harrington just about landing in the

1262
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 11: parking lot on that one. Luke got stoked with that

1263
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 11: one and putting up a ninety four flat the highest

1264
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 11: score of the evening so far. You're new leader from

1265
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 11: New Zealand, Luca Harrington.

1266
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the key was so far. He's now sitting in

1267
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: third or bronze medal position.

1268
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: This is one to back up.

1269
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: I've been a public This is Paul anchor thirtieth album.

1270
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: It's quite moving, they say, recorded at his home in California,

1271
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: but also backed by a symphony orchestra that was recorded

1272
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: in Budapest. I don't know why that he didn't invite

1273
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: them around to his house.

1274
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 13: I know.

1275
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: Some re records, some mix of covers, some new material,

1276
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: and indeed one song that he co wrote with Michael Jackson,

1277
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 2: eleven tracks, forty two.

1278
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 3: Minutes and fifty nine buck in. It was a minutes

1279
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 3: past day.

1280
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: Time for politics Wednesday, Mike Mitchell with US Long with

1281
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 2: Jenny Anderson.

1282
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 3: Good morning to you both.

1283
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 23: Hey, good morning, Mike, morning.

1284
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 12: Jilly, Good morning, Mike, Good morning, Mark.

1285
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 3: Jenny. Do you owe me an apology?

1286
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 16: Well?

1287
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 20: I probably do, actually, but I was a little bit

1288
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 20: sleep deprived, to be honest. So the thing is that

1289
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 20: my mother, who often makes the sound on a mistake,

1290
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 20: I correct her regularly and she listens, and so she

1291
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 20: will be thinking this is hilarious because I correct her

1292
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 20: and then I've done the same things.

1293
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: Well, that makes your hypocrite, Jenny. You're correcting your mother

1294
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 2: and then you're making the same mistake in front of

1295
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 2: the nation for goodness sake.

1296
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 20: Yeah, Well, a tree fell on my house and defense

1297
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 20: and I have been a little bit.

1298
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 12: Sleep deprived, and so what's the state of your house?

1299
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 12: It's not good. We have to get a crane to

1300
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 12: get it off.

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01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 3: So when did that happen?

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Speaker 12: A big tree that happened in the big storm in Wellington.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what day though, It's it's Wednesday, Monday.

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Speaker 12: So it hat on Sunday Sunday nights. That's something I've

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Speaker 12: got moved yet.

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Speaker 3: Who you're ringing?

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Speaker 20: It's well, you come to the heart and get a crane.

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Speaker 20: Everyone's got a tree on their roof. The whole area

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Speaker 20: has been really impacted by the storm. So it's it's

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Speaker 20: it's significant and there's a big cure up to get the.

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Speaker 2: Crane and get the people on well The only reason

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Speaker 2: I asked when we had a big storm in Wellington,

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Speaker 2: which wasn't that long ago market No, because he's the

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Speaker 2: Minister of Emergency Events. Anyway, the neighbors came and they

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Speaker 2: had somebody around their house in about half an hour's

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Speaker 2: time and they started, you know, pulling the tree and

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Speaker 2: slicing it into a million pieces and got it sorted.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's the house like? I mean it must

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Speaker 2: be leaking and problematic, musn't it.

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Speaker 12: Well, it is incredibly lucky.

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Speaker 20: It could have gone through a whole set of windows

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Speaker 20: and inside, so it's sort of landed on a dick area.

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Speaker 20: But it has damaged the house. But it's broken our windows,

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Speaker 20: so the house isn't open to the element.

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Speaker 3: And the insurance company is.

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Speaker 20: Playing yep, they're good, yep there, it's all lodged and everything.

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Speaker 20: But we just have to wait for a crane. But yeah,

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Speaker 20: I had to go to sleep for Saturday night. Sorry,

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Speaker 20: it was when it landed in. I had to go

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Speaker 20: to sleep with it. You were a tree over your

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Speaker 20: head and you're sort of wondering whether I'm right through

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Speaker 20: the roof or not, do you know?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's been pretty pretty hot up.

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Speaker 2: This isn't new though, to be fair, because in nineteen

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Speaker 2: sixty five, No, it wasn't. It was nineteen sixty nine

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Speaker 2: and the Wahenee storm. I almost was killed by a

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Speaker 2: falling tree on our house. Really really yeah, and this

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Speaker 2: was in Gisban. I didn't know it was the Waheni

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Speaker 2: storm at the time because I was only four, but

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Speaker 2: I was asleep in the tree and we lived next

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Speaker 2: to a gully and Gisbon and this tree came down

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Speaker 2: and literally in the morning was blocking the window of

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Speaker 2: my bedroom. Based on the fact that it had fallen

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Speaker 2: right out, so I could have gone straight through, killed

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Speaker 2: me and we wouldn't be here having this conversation.

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Speaker 18: Now.

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Speaker 13: No, that's right.

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Speaker 23: I didn't realize you had ties back to Gisbon.

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Speaker 3: That's very cool. I got tires everywhere.

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Speaker 23: Mate, Hey, listen just really quickly on that. While we're

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Speaker 23: talking about storms. I was a nature honer this week

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Speaker 23: and there was sort of a you call it a

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Speaker 23: rural street court meeting where a lot of the farmers

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Speaker 23: that were out and I was meeting with him and

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Speaker 23: talking to them. They all wanted to talk about everyone's

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Speaker 23: There was flooding, the schools being They all wanted to

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Speaker 23: talk about the Mike Hoskins Show, and in particular Neville,

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Speaker 23: who's a huge.

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Speaker 3: Fan of yours.

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Speaker 23: He said, would you please give me? Would you please

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Speaker 23: give me a shout out? So, Neville, here's your shout

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Speaker 23: out on the Mike Hoskins Show.

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Speaker 7: Mate.

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Speaker 2: Never Nevill a vote or a hunger. I'm very I'm

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Speaker 2: very pleased you'll be able to do that. The can

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Speaker 2: I just ask one another weird question? Mark, just quickly,

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Speaker 2: do we hand out if we hand out money to

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Speaker 2: our medallists at the Olympics, how much is it?

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Speaker 3: Do you know? No, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 23: I know that High Performance Support obviously has got ways

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Speaker 23: of being able to support our anyone in that high

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Speaker 23: performance sport program financially, but no, I'm not sure in

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Speaker 23: the number.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ginny, are you guys this letter from Chipster on

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Speaker 2: the f t A and stuff. Are you playing games

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Speaker 2: here or do you actually want to do some business?

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Speaker 12: No, not at all.

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Speaker 20: We definitely want to do business, and look national did

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Speaker 20: some of the things when it's the China FTA. We

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Speaker 20: want to know the details and what we're signing up to,

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Speaker 20: and there are some areas that aren't clear and one

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Speaker 20: in particular for me is that investment clause, you know,

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Speaker 20: committing New Zealand to what is in New Zealand dollars

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Speaker 20: thirty three billion dollars an investment over fifteen years, and

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Speaker 20: we just get told all that's aspirational, But there is

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Speaker 20: a real concern that in fifteen years time, we backed

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Speaker 20: into a corner in a much bigger country, is working

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Speaker 20: us for not investing what we've promised we would and

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Speaker 20: that could impact on those goods that get into that country.

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Speaker 20: So all we're asking for are the details of advice

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Speaker 20: that have been redacted and blocked out in those papers.

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Speaker 20: We want to know all those details before we sign

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Speaker 20: up to it.

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Speaker 2: All right, Breth break come back in the moment, Jails

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Speaker 2: a hold on Micdove, come back and get your review.

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell as well.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen past the Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 3: It be Us Talks.

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Speaker 2: It will be sixteen past eight. It's more correction on

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Speaker 2: the Wahine. He's sixty eight, not sixty nine, So I's

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Speaker 2: three at the time. Not for my apologies, Mark, you

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Speaker 2: were going to say.

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Speaker 23: And I was just going to say on the free

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Speaker 23: trade agreement. You know, I've been through this before. We

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Speaker 23: had the Tepeek and you had the protests and everyone

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Speaker 23: coming out that the sky was going to fall in

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Speaker 23: and how bad was it, and the labor government wuldn't

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Speaker 23: support it, and then then you had to change your government.

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Speaker 23: Of course, they got straight and behind and supported it.

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Speaker 23: It's going to be a good it's a good deal

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Speaker 23: for us and as soon as it goes through, people

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Speaker 23: won't be talking about anymore. We'll just be getting normal

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Speaker 23: with it. Look how good that agreement's been for us

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Speaker 23: as a country. I mean that this government took a

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Speaker 23: conscious decision when we came into power that we hadn't

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Speaker 23: been engaged.

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Speaker 3: With the rest of the world.

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Speaker 23: We're a small trading nation down the bottom of the world.

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Speaker 23: We have to get out there engaged. And you've seen

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Speaker 23: the foreign minists of the Prime Minister, the Trade Minister

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Speaker 23: doing that. You've seen good free trade agreements delivered for

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Speaker 23: us as a country. When the rest of the world

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Speaker 23: has sort of got this geopolitical uncertainty around it. We're

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Speaker 23: being really clear and certain about what we're doing, and

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Speaker 23: that is engaging with the rest of the world and

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Speaker 23: making sure, a lot of retreat. You guys want to

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Speaker 23: retreat and just get more people depending on the state,

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Speaker 23: and that's not a model for success for us.

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Speaker 2: Having said that, Jenny, let me ask you around this

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Speaker 2: question broadly speaking, I mean, I see your version of

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Speaker 2: the Labor Party is too different now to ever coalesce

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Speaker 2: with a national party or national government on the big

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Speaker 2: picture stuff. I mean you you back bikes over cars,

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Speaker 2: you know, buses over roads and stuff, and that's fine,

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Speaker 2: you're entitled to give you but that's not cohesives it

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Speaker 2: in terms of a big picture for the country.

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Speaker 20: Well, I think you can go back and look when

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Speaker 20: I first worked in parliament back in the early two thousands,

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Speaker 20: there was a big lot of legislation that both parties

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Speaker 20: voted for. So I think you can say the same

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Speaker 20: to both but win was a lot of bills. But

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Speaker 20: what now this is late late two thousands.

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Speaker 2: You know that's a different Labor Party from your Labor

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Speaker 2: Party now.

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Speaker 20: But even through John Keyes government, you had both major

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Speaker 20: parties voting for legislation this government and I've said the

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Speaker 20: whole world since COVID potentially I don't know, but there

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Speaker 20: is far more our politics and day to day legislation

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Speaker 20: than they used to be, and I don't think you

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Speaker 20: can land all of that at our feet. I think

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Speaker 20: there is been I mean infrastructure, which we'll talk about

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Speaker 20: soon as another good example where things previously not politicized

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Speaker 20: have been and I think that inflames everything. So no,

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Speaker 20: we want an India feed tree trade agreement. We've been

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Speaker 20: very clear on that from day one, but we want

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Speaker 20: to make sure if we're signing Kiwi's and Kiwi businesses

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Speaker 20: up to this, we want another detail because we will

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Speaker 20: be held to account as a future government if there's

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Speaker 20: stuff in there that we didn't know and agreed to.

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Speaker 2: I just get depressed, like that thing yesterday, Mark that

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Speaker 2: I mean, bluddy. I mean it's not like we didn't

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Speaker 2: know about it. Infrastructurally speaking, I mean you've seen it

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Speaker 2: more than anybody in the country wandering around and your

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Speaker 2: role as emergency management. I mean, we don't have the money,

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Speaker 2: we can't borrow the money. The things in front of

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Speaker 2: us are gargantuan. When we do go to build, we

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Speaker 2: can't build because it blows out, it's delayed, and so

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Speaker 2: it goes.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's depressing.

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Speaker 23: Yes, So I hear what you're saying, but I think

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Speaker 23: we also have to be positive and aspiration. I'm looking

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Speaker 23: forward to because you know, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 23: we have got a beautiful country. We have actually got

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Speaker 23: really good institutions. We've got you know, we have still

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Speaker 23: got good infrastructure. We are in many respects doing well.

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Speaker 23: But yes, we've got some big challenge challenges ahead of

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Speaker 23: us in terms of number one, getting our debt down

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Speaker 23: as a country, because at the moment we've got ten

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Speaker 23: billion dollars going out annually on interest rates, so we've

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Speaker 23: got to get that down. We've got a really focused

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Speaker 23: approach from government coming in terms of infrastructure, you've seen

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Speaker 23: that plan released by Chris Bishop this week. But yes,

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Speaker 23: and yes, we've got challenges around the weather, but that

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Speaker 23: has always been the case, and we're getting better and

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Speaker 23: better at being able to identify our risk, being able

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Speaker 23: to respond and recover from it. So it's not all

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Speaker 23: doom and gloom. You know, the economy is starting to

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Speaker 23: come back again. We live in paradise. I've got lots

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Speaker 23: of things to be thankful for, and I'm really positive.

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Speaker 23: I think that Yeah, you.

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Speaker 12: Sorry, you know you asked me question.

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Speaker 3: Do you poll internally? A lot in your party.

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Speaker 20: Yes, we regularly do you do you believe it? Look

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Speaker 20: all those major poles, I still want to come back

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Speaker 20: to infrastructure. That I'll answer this and come back to that.

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Speaker 20: All of those major polls are kind of within a

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Speaker 20: couple of percent. So and from previous elections, we know

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Speaker 20: that the you know, if you do the poll of polls,

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Speaker 20: which you put all of them on the same.

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Speaker 12: One, they're about right.

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Speaker 20: So yeah, yeah, all of those ones, there's always about

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Speaker 20: two to three percent that doesn't seem quite right.

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Speaker 2: And but that's my point. Two to three percent. It's

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Speaker 2: the difference between government and non government, which is kind

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Speaker 2: of critical.

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Speaker 20: Well, but that's the margin of error in a poll

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Speaker 20: when you're a poll on a thousand.

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Speaker 2: It's just I was watching Mike Schumann last night talked

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Speaker 2: to the Greens going, oh you're down four percent, Oh

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Speaker 2: you're up four percent.

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Speaker 3: What's going on with your party?

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Speaker 2: And the answer is nothing, that's the it's the poll.

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Speaker 12: But that's just I just want to come back. Where

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Speaker 12: can I come back to infrastructure. I want to make

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Speaker 12: one point super quick that.

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Speaker 20: We wanted that set up and we did set up

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Speaker 20: the Infrastructure Commission because we wanted the heat taken out

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Speaker 20: of it.

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Speaker 12: So so we're pleased that that that's going ahead.

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01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 20: But the one thing that we're calling for is for

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Speaker 20: all departments to engage with the Infrastructure Commission when considering

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Speaker 20: those big projects. And currently it's Vauntrey, so we don't

1524
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 20: see the NTTA with all of those big roads, so

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Speaker 20: they should go through there.

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Speaker 12: And so that's an important change, is.

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Speaker 3: That all you're bringing for.

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Speaker 20: Roads up and down the country right and campaign.

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Speaker 23: On that we're actually we're actually building them and delivering them.

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Speaker 23: Because you guys had a real problem with delivery, but

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Speaker 23: might just really quick real calls. You did a great

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Speaker 23: you did a great analysis on this last week. One

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Speaker 23: hundred percent right on me personally, I've never really watched

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Speaker 23: the polls. We just want to get out there and

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Speaker 23: do our job, deliver for the people that vot us

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Speaker 23: in to actually serve them, and we'll let them decide

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01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 23: the election.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good on, You're nice to see you both, Jenny Anderson,

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Speaker 2: Mark Metroll.

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Speaker 3: Good luck with the tree. Jenny. I hope you get

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Speaker 3: that sorted out.

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Speaker 2: The reason I raise the polling apart from the fact

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Speaker 2: I'm sick and tired of polling and they don't seem

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Speaker 2: to make it is Gallop in America has given up

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Speaker 2: on polling, and if I get time after eight thirty,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you why, because they've worked out what we

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01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,919
Speaker 2: already know. No one wants to participate in polling anymore,

1548
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Speaker 2: and therefore the numbers they produce from a tiny percentage

1549
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Speaker 2: of people who do participate is so warped it's simply

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Speaker 2: not worth doing the exercise anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's already angsty in Australia with Bondi, with Hertzog, with

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Speaker 2: the anti Semitism. Now we've got the what they call

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Speaker 2: the Isis brides and began the woman. The girl from

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Speaker 2: Britain is probably the most famous Isis brides. Is the

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Speaker 2: young ladies went and married killers and suddenly find themselves

1582
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Speaker 2: parked in Syria and don't know where to go. The

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Speaker 2: latest is a large group of Islamic Australian Isis bride

1584
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Speaker 2: started to truck off towards Australia and everyone will hold on,

1585
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 2: although what are you gonna do? And in that is

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Speaker 2: the big headline more shortly.

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Speaker 1: Tough on Power, Sharp on insight, the my casking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with the Defender embraced the impossible news togsa'd be.

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Speaker 2: Weird reaction to Mark who said basically, we live in paradise,

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01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: which which I don't think most of us would disagree with.

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Speaker 3: But here's what we get.

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Speaker 2: How in a low wage country and we can't afford anything,

1593
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 2: we can't live in paradise. I'd believe we live in

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01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 2: paradise if we're on Mark's wages. Shame on Mike Costing

1595
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 2: for allowing Mark to tell the poor we live in paradise.

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Speaker 16: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Is that some sort of Facebook thing that's got going

1598
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 2: since Mark generally what happens as some sort of weird

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01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 2: social media thing or Facebook thing, And suddenly I get

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01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 2: nine hundred texts from the same pit saying essentially the

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01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 2: same thing. Mark works as butt off, and so he's

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01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 2: allowed to be on the wages he is. And the

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01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: wages for politicians in general aren't that good for the

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01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 2: hours they put in and the time they don't spend

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01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 2: with their family and the amount of energy and effort

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Speaker 2: they put into this country. But having said that, and

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Speaker 2: of course you. The whole idea of a country is

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Speaker 2: to provide an environment in which if you are on

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01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: a low wage and you want to do better, then

1610
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,560
Speaker 2: you can and the can bit is up to you.

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes away.

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Speaker 3: From nine.

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01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: International Correspondence with ends and eye ins and peace of

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01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,440
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: See right as well.

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01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 13: To tell you, man, oh good, you must have been

1617
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,839
Speaker 13: reading my mind because I'm going to write a column

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 13: today or tomorrow. Angus Taylor, the new Liberal leader, keeps

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01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 13: saying that Australia is the greatest nation on earth. If

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01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 13: you live in Victoria, that's certainly not the case. And

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01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 13: I hate it when these people like politicians trop that out.

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01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 13: I mean, if someone said to me, where would be

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01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 13: the greatest that place on earth to live, you'd say

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01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 13: New Zealand because you don't have the problems that we have,

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01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 13: which is too high immigration. We've got you know, a

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Speaker 13: climate that can kid you if you go out out

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01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 13: in the outback. We've got snakes, we've got sharks. I mean,

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01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,759
Speaker 13: all of the normal things. New Zealand would be my country.

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Speaker 3: Here's the interesting thing.

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Speaker 2: Now you'll be aware of this, and here's the problem.

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01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 2: If you ask Auba, New Zealand, and I can back

1632
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 2: this up with numbers because of our migration stats in

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01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 2: the last couple of years. They would go, what's the

1634
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 2: greatest country in the world of living? They say Australia

1635
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 2: and tens of thousands of New Zealanders have moved.

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Speaker 13: Well, i'd be sounding a warning. That's all I mean.

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01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 13: It used to be and can be again currently it's not.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: I would tend to agree, and I've said that for

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01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 2: a long time, but no one seems to listen to me.

1641
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 2: Not that I don't like Australia, because I love Australia,

1642
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 2: but you've got I mean the guy who tied Matt

1643
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 2: who we remember from rugby League Circle has got gunned

1644
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 2: down outside his house yesterday for God's sake.

1645
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 13: Well last night in Melbourne there would have been a

1646
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 13: machete attack on a home invasion and someone's car stole Taylor.

1647
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 3: And announcing his front bench.

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01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 2: By the way, is this like these are the same

1649
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 2: people that were there last week under season Lee and

1650
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 2: now they're under him. Has any actually changed?

1651
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 13: A couple of people got punted because they supported her,

1652
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 13: but the reshuffle is a reset for Angus Taylor, just

1653
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 13: as a society reminds me of that main character out

1654
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,759
Speaker 13: of that TV series mad Men, remember, yes, the series

1655
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 13: of the advertising agency in New York and sixties, and

1656
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 13: he looks like that. But anyways, made Tim Wilson the

1657
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 13: only Liberal who won back a Teal seat at the

1658
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 13: last election, which is no mean feat. He's made him

1659
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 13: the shadow Treasurer and so we're going to get some

1660
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 13: wages figures out today. It'll be interesting to see what

1661
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 13: Tim Wilson says about that, because the latest stats you

1662
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 13: won't believe what. You will believe this because you keep

1663
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 13: across it. Eight out of ten jobs in Australia now

1664
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:21,560
Speaker 13: reliant on government spending of one sort or another. So

1665
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 13: the private sector is not hiring people. Unemployment rate is low,

1666
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 13: but most of this is state governments, federal governments, local

1667
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 13: governments employing more and more and more people. So Jim Charmers,

1668
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 13: who we called grim Jim, he's the treasurer. He called

1669
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 13: Wilson a typical liberal, long and ego arrogance and entitlement,

1670
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 13: short on empathy or understanding. Now that coming from an

1671
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 13: egoist like Jim Charmers is a bit rich.

1672
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 3: And then we're kind to paull In Hanson.

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01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: I've been dying to ask you about this, and I

1674
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 2: keep forgetting South Australia and the election. Melanowskis is hot

1675
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 2: and expected to win. Correct me on any of this

1676
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 2: and I'm wrong. So he is labor but label more

1677
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 2: towards a conservative spectrum.

1678
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 3: Is he going to win?

1679
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 2: Is he going to win because it's him and is

1680
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 2: the handsome slash one nation thing going to be in

1681
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 2: play in a major way that would make people surprised?

1682
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm a South Australian, so you know I have

1683
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 13: a bit more of an understanding, but I don't live there,

1684
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 13: so I would say Malnaskus would win easily, as with

1685
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 13: Christopher Mins in New South Wales. Those two are the

1686
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 13: moderate labor leaders that we need federally, but they're running

1687
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 13: states at the moment. Is there a one nation push

1688
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 13: as strong in South Australia as there is in sat

1689
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 13: queens Land, rural New South Wales and Victoria. Probably not,

1690
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 13: But she won't have lost any of the supporter of

1691
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 13: the people who jumped over to her after her comments. Now,

1692
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 13: I was sitting waiting to go on sky to talk

1693
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 13: to Shari Marks on Monday night Pauline was on before

1694
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 13: me and she came out with this. She said, quite,

1695
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 13: I've got no time for the radical Islam. Their religion

1696
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 13: concern me of what it says in the Quran. They

1697
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 13: hate Westerners and that's what it's all about. You say

1698
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 13: there are great Muslims out there, Well, I'm sorry, how

1699
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 13: can you tell me there are good Muslims? So that

1700
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 13: has caused a heavy debate about whether those comments should

1701
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 13: be retracted or not. What did she do the next day?

1702
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 13: She just doubled down on it and said, that's what

1703
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 13: I think, and that's what the majority of Australians, she claims,

1704
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 13: are thinking about the fact that we have a high

1705
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 13: Islamic refugee well immigrant problem in this country.

1706
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 2: Which brings you back to the isis brides, which was

1707
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 2: headlines majorly yesterday and these women apparently are heading back

1708
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,560
Speaker 2: to Australia until they got turned around. What does Albanezy

1709
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 2: do about that? I mean, this is I thought this

1710
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 2: was sort of semi isolated to Europe and Britain, but

1711
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got a bunch of them. Do they

1712
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 2: just stay in Syria forever?

1713
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 13: Well, he keeps saying that we are not going to

1714
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 13: repatriate them. That's tricky words because there are NGOs exactly

1715
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 13: who are operating on behalf of these people to get

1716
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 13: them out of those camps to eleven On and back

1717
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 13: to Australia. There's already a group of come back here

1718
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 13: and the problem is that we just don't know what

1719
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 13: they've been up to over all these years. But the

1720
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 13: issue is if you are an Australian and you go

1721
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 13: to an Australian embassy and request a return of your

1722
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 13: passport or a renewal of your passport, under our constitution,

1723
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 13: you've got to be handed back to your passport. So

1724
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 13: if they can get to Beirut, which is what they

1725
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 13: were trying to do yesterday before they got turned back,

1726
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 13: and they get their hands on an Australian passport, problem

1727
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 13: they have is some of their children were born over

1728
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 13: there and we don't have to if you're born overseas

1729
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 13: to Australian automatic citizenship. So it's a problem and it's

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Speaker 13: certainly an issue for the Labor government.

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Speaker 2: Which brings me back to Lee now gone that thing

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Speaker 2: that guy, I don't know whether it was leaked or

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Speaker 2: it just came to the public domain. Her idea which

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Speaker 2: was very Trumpian to ban certain people from certain countries

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Speaker 2: and crack down on immigration. It does tailor run with that.

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Speaker 2: And if he runs with that, can he ever Outhdson Hanson?

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Speaker 13: No, he can't. But the intriguing thing about that is

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Speaker 13: that the Shadow Immigration and Shadow Home at first spokespeople

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Speaker 13: who are no longer in those jobs after that reshuffle,

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Speaker 13: said they'd never seen that policy, don't know who drew

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Speaker 13: it up and where it had come from. Now clearly

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Speaker 13: it came, as I said to you on Monday, out

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Speaker 13: of Susan Lee's office. Someone in that office had put

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Speaker 13: this policy together where if you come from a region

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Speaker 13: that is classified as a terrorist region, like the Philippines,

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Speaker 13: for example, then you're not going to get into Australia.

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Speaker 13: So someone close to her is obviously leaked that in

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Speaker 13: a bid to probably damage Taylor on his first day.

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Speaker 3: OK.

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Speaker 2: And then we come to the fast How long you

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Speaker 2: been talking about past trains?

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Speaker 13: Come? So I was a teenager, which is a very

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Speaker 13: long time ago, I reckon. I've written when I was

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Speaker 13: in newspapers a hundred stories about fast fast trains in

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Speaker 13: ice creag Rail. But this thing's come up. The only

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Speaker 13: reason I want to raise it. Don't fall off your

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Speaker 13: chair when I tell you this. So they're talking about

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Speaker 13: ninety billion, seventy to ninety billion dollars to build one

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Speaker 13: hundred and ninety one kill the meter fast train from

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Speaker 13: Sydney to Newcastle. But here here's the kicker on this.

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Speaker 13: The extraordinary thing is of that one hundred and ninety

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Speaker 13: one kill him. And as you think about you've been there,

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Speaker 13: Sydney to Newcastle, through the Central coast, beautiful coast bush

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Speaker 13: and lovely bush country, beautiful beautiful drive of the one

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Speaker 13: hundred and ninety one kilometers, one hundred and fifteen will

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Speaker 13: be in a tunnel.

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Speaker 3: I believe that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say, I believe it when

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Speaker 2: I see it. But we're not going to see it,

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Speaker 2: are we. It's not going to happen.

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Speaker 13: You know you've been a dark tunnel. What's the point?

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Speaker 16: Eh?

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Speaker 3: I agree?

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Speaker 2: All right, man, go well, we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 2: Steve Price out of Australia. It is already eight party five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 13: Howard By News talks at be.

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Speaker 2: My good work coming out in Defenser Mike mitchellan politicians

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01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,839
Speaker 2: salary in New Zealand needs to drop the tall poppies

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Speaker 2: and drome one. Success is completely one's responsibility. Why do

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Speaker 2: we insist on locking those who work hard and get rewards?

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Speaker 2: I tend to agree. My name's Jason from Queenstowle. Moved

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Speaker 2: here twenty two years ago with nothing. Have built a

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Speaker 2: life for myself based on the opportunities this beautiful country

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Speaker 2: has to offer, and I will never look back. I

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Speaker 2: will never quit praising this country for everything it has

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Speaker 2: out Therefore, if you're willing to get off your backside

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Speaker 2: and not expect handouts for just being makes me crazy.

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Speaker 2: With all the problems in the country at the moment

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Speaker 2: and the beleagued state of the place, you can still

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Speaker 2: argue I do with the kids. Actually, often it's never

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Speaker 2: been a better time to look for work and to

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Speaker 2: do work. Yes, it works hard to find, but if

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Speaker 2: you're diligent and hard working and dedicated and determined, then

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Speaker 2: you will do very nicely.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's still that sort of country where good people, despite everything,

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Speaker 2: good people are still extremely hard to get hold of.

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Speaker 3: More's the pity.

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Speaker 2: Other quick thing we should mention as insurance, which I

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Speaker 2: noted yesterday, was that the insurance counsel who came out

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Speaker 2: I can't remember point being the average insurance in Auckland

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01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 2: is down materially, it's not everywhere, and we're starting to

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Speaker 2: see the real world come through in terms of there

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01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 2: are certain parts of the country where it's going to

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Speaker 2: be more expensive to insure. I've tried to raise this

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01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 2: over and over again, and there are sketchy parts of

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Speaker 2: this country where you will not get insurance and you

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01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 2: need to face up to that sooner rather than later,

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Speaker 2: because it's going to happen to you whether you want

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Speaker 2: it to or not. Wellington's gone up, Christyt has gone up,

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Speaker 2: but Auckland's down eleven percent, and eleven percent is material,

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01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 2: but that we're not getting enough news around that. That's

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01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 2: good news. Everyone wants to spend their time complaining about

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01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 2: the cost of everything going up. Well, the cost of

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01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: insurance in Auckland, the country's biggest city, has gone down

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01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 2: on average eleven percent. So we work through that very

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01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: difficult period of time a couple of years ago Gabriel, etc.

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Speaker 2: And we're getting back to some form of normality, if

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Speaker 2: you want to use that word. But in certain parts

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Speaker 2: of the country it is getting better and when it

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Speaker 2: is getting better. For all the time we spend bagging

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Speaker 2: insurance companies, we should at least acknowledge, if not congratulate

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Speaker 2: them on the fact that not everything goes up all

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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 3: Most togs aad be.

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Speaker 2: Most people think a hearing test tells them everything and

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Speaker 2: they need to know in reality, not so tells you

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Speaker 2: very little. In fact, Resonate Health have created Ear three

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Speaker 2: sixty and that gives you a full picture. So it's

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Speaker 2: a comprehensive hearing health assessment covers ten areas ten including

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Speaker 2: how you hear speech, how your brain processes that sound,

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Speaker 2: ear health impact of tenatus, how hearing may affect balance, sleep, fatigue.

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Speaker 2: All of that design to help you understand your hearing

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Speaker 2: properly so you can make informed decisions. And right now

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Speaker 2: there's a very good reason to book. If you mentioned

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Speaker 2: my name, my name is Mike Mik not Hosking's Hosking.

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Speaker 3: Mike.

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Speaker 2: Just say Mike when scheduling your appointment. You'll receive fifty

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Speaker 2: percent off fifty five bo those of the sort of

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Speaker 2: deals I get your fifty percent off your ear three

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Speaker 2: sixty assessment. Now, if you've noticed changes in your hearing,

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Speaker 2: or you simply want clarity rather than guesswork, a very

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Speaker 2: sensible place to start. Eight hundred you're ready O eight

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Speaker 2: hundred seven three seven sixty six two eight hundred seven

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Speaker 2: co dot NZ. Hosking, Now, I haven't had time today,

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Speaker 2: so we'll have to get into it tomorrow. Answer me

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Speaker 2: this question, how is it possible? The Teaching Council. Teaching

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Speaker 2: Council is the group that organizes training and monitors teaching

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Speaker 2: in this country. You know, relatively important field teaching kids,

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Speaker 2: future education. Anyway, the Teaching Council had a report on

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01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 2: them published yesterday by the Public Service Commission. The council

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01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 2: fell well short of public sector standards. They investigated procurement,

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01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 2: there was conflict of interest management. This has been going on.

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01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 2: Here is the really disturbing thing. This was happening between

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen and twenty twenty five, so just the seven years.

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Speaker 2: How is it this sort of thing can go on

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Speaker 2: for seven years and nobody goes this doesn't look right anyway.

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01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 2: The Chief Executive, Leslie Hoskin Hoskin, not Hosking, not Hoskings Hoskin.

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Speaker 2: No relations gone, conflict of interest. The old husband was

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Speaker 2: working in the had some shares in the company that

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Speaker 2: I were buying the business off. I'll explain all of

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01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 2: this more likely. My big question is how is this possible?

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Speaker 2: Five minutes away from none.

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Speaker 1: Trending nowhouse the real house of fragrances.

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Speaker 2: El Shopton on the life of Jesse Jackson.

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Speaker 24: We cannot take the non violence out, but we must

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Speaker 24: protect the right to vote. Everything doctor King and Rever

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Speaker 24: Jackson stood for is at risk right now. Supreme Court

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Speaker 24: is weighing right now section two of the voting rights there.

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01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 24: Right now we've seen what's going on with with ice

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Speaker 24: and deportation. So we have the challenge not to mourn.

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Speaker 25: Jesse Jackson, but we need to use our mornings, which

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Speaker 25: is what we're gonna do Saturday, to say there must

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Speaker 25: be a movement. He would not want us to have

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Speaker 25: sanctimonious morning mornings if we weren't gonna get.

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Speaker 3: Up and do the work.

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Speaker 2: He's a good man. L. Shopton, and I just wonder L.

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Speaker 2: Shopton lost a tremendous amount of weight before the GLPS

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Speaker 2: came along. And if you look at that old photos

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Speaker 2: of L. Sharpen, he was a big unit. L Sharpens,

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Speaker 2: the smallest man in the world, probably even smaller than

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Speaker 2: I am. And that's really saying something. And he would

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01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 2: have been pre GLP and so he would have gone

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Speaker 2: laparoscopic or something like that. And I just wonder if

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Speaker 2: he looks at the glps now and he's saying to himself, here,

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Speaker 2: I should have got me some GLPS instead of that laparoscopic.

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Speaker 3: Or no, because I think he would have just done

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Speaker 3: the work. Was that were just being casually racist just then?

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Speaker 2: I don't think, because we reveal those sort of people,

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Speaker 2: I love them, and that's, you.

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Speaker 9: Know, we aspire to have that accent.

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Speaker 2: I think, at least we're not traitors, Glenn Willie, at

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Speaker 2: least we're not traitors. And I've done plenty. I've done

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Speaker 2: more than enough damage for one day Back tomorrow, Happy Days.

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