1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talk zed B. 3 00:00:12,747 --> 00:00:14,787 Speaker 2: There's always at this time on a Sunday afternoon we 4 00:00:14,827 --> 00:00:17,707 Speaker 2: get the pleasure of the company of James mcconey. How 5 00:00:17,707 --> 00:00:19,707 Speaker 2: about those Warriors, James? 6 00:00:20,827 --> 00:00:24,467 Speaker 3: How about the m wires look fantastic stuff, just looking 7 00:00:24,547 --> 00:00:29,707 Speaker 3: so dominant and assured, but also lots of forwards scoring tries. 8 00:00:30,547 --> 00:00:33,027 Speaker 3: I'm sure you caught the game, Pioney, but I don't 9 00:00:33,067 --> 00:00:35,827 Speaker 3: think I've seen a game where so many forwards started down. 10 00:00:36,347 --> 00:00:38,587 Speaker 2: No, it was it was right across the ball. Wasn't 11 00:00:38,627 --> 00:00:41,267 Speaker 2: what we had Clark Ford. Hala Sema was playing in 12 00:00:41,307 --> 00:00:43,667 Speaker 2: the centers, so I guess we can't really count him 13 00:00:43,707 --> 00:00:46,587 Speaker 2: for sher Harris. What about right at what about right 14 00:00:46,587 --> 00:00:48,907 Speaker 2: at the end when Luke Hanson got the ball passed 15 00:00:48,907 --> 00:00:51,187 Speaker 2: to him for a debut try as well? I love 16 00:00:51,227 --> 00:00:53,747 Speaker 2: the I just just love it. What that said about 17 00:00:53,787 --> 00:00:54,387 Speaker 2: the team too. 18 00:00:55,027 --> 00:00:58,547 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you talk about like Halla Seema Leka Halasima, 19 00:00:58,587 --> 00:01:01,067 Speaker 3: who is a burgeoning superstar. We all know that he 20 00:01:01,187 --> 00:01:05,027 Speaker 3: topped the try scorers for the Warriors last year with thirteen, 21 00:01:05,147 --> 00:01:08,427 Speaker 3: mainly scoring you know, a second rower. I think he's 22 00:01:08,427 --> 00:01:11,347 Speaker 3: going to rewrite record books. I can even see even 23 00:01:11,387 --> 00:01:14,947 Speaker 3: those grizzled old Ossie pundits on the on the Fox 24 00:01:14,987 --> 00:01:19,547 Speaker 3: Sports TV shows are starting to say, it's Leka Halaesima. 25 00:01:19,627 --> 00:01:22,627 Speaker 3: He is box office. You have to watch him. And 26 00:01:22,747 --> 00:01:25,427 Speaker 3: when Alex Johnston broke the try scoring record for the 27 00:01:25,547 --> 00:01:29,267 Speaker 3: NRL with two hundred and thirteen last weekend, I sort 28 00:01:29,267 --> 00:01:30,707 Speaker 3: of went on a bit of a deep dive to 29 00:01:30,747 --> 00:01:32,587 Speaker 3: see who else is on that list and not the 30 00:01:32,627 --> 00:01:36,027 Speaker 3: only four that's within Cooey is Steve Menzi is a 31 00:01:36,067 --> 00:01:38,827 Speaker 3: great manly second rower who was a bit like Lequa 32 00:01:38,947 --> 00:01:42,827 Speaker 3: hybrids set of second row center. But I think Leka 33 00:01:43,067 --> 00:01:46,427 Speaker 3: is on target to be a bit like Menzies on 34 00:01:46,467 --> 00:01:47,587 Speaker 3: the try scoring front. 35 00:01:48,107 --> 00:01:50,387 Speaker 2: Yeah he's some player, isn't he. And you don't want 36 00:01:50,387 --> 00:01:52,907 Speaker 2: to get too excited at such a young age. But 37 00:01:52,947 --> 00:01:54,587 Speaker 2: then you think, okay, well, if he's that young, what 38 00:01:54,787 --> 00:01:56,947 Speaker 2: might he go on to achieve? He could be anything, 39 00:01:56,947 --> 00:01:57,387 Speaker 2: couldn't he. 40 00:01:58,187 --> 00:02:01,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the whole thing. It's Yeah, speed and 41 00:02:01,507 --> 00:02:03,907 Speaker 3: power is such a massive part of his game that 42 00:02:04,147 --> 00:02:06,547 Speaker 3: you know he's There might be others that were come 43 00:02:06,587 --> 00:02:09,587 Speaker 3: along that will be more powerful and quicker in that position, 44 00:02:09,667 --> 00:02:12,507 Speaker 3: but right now it's him, and and you know that 45 00:02:12,907 --> 00:02:15,787 Speaker 3: those types of players they have to make hay while 46 00:02:15,787 --> 00:02:18,347 Speaker 3: the sun shines and sign those big contracts while they can. 47 00:02:19,347 --> 00:02:22,027 Speaker 3: I think he's yeah, it's it's just going to be 48 00:02:22,067 --> 00:02:25,787 Speaker 3: incredible to see how many people he humbles in this 49 00:02:25,867 --> 00:02:29,187 Speaker 3: game because he's already doing it. And you can even 50 00:02:29,227 --> 00:02:32,347 Speaker 3: see the players. Liquor took a while to put the 51 00:02:32,347 --> 00:02:35,427 Speaker 3: ball down use today, but the guy didn't even bother 52 00:02:35,547 --> 00:02:37,747 Speaker 3: trying to challenge him because they know it's Lequor. 53 00:02:37,827 --> 00:02:41,547 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I've noticed that two accusally. He didn't 54 00:02:41,587 --> 00:02:44,027 Speaker 2: sort of just dive on it immediately. Did he was 55 00:02:44,027 --> 00:02:46,627 Speaker 2: in the end goal. I'll put it down to each He. 56 00:02:46,707 --> 00:02:48,547 Speaker 3: Was casual in his own time and eyone goes, yeah, 57 00:02:48,547 --> 00:02:51,987 Speaker 3: your lequer do that. So I think he's already got 58 00:02:51,987 --> 00:02:55,347 Speaker 3: superstar status and he's been afforded that respect by by 59 00:02:55,387 --> 00:02:59,507 Speaker 3: his opponents. And now, you know, I look at say 60 00:02:59,627 --> 00:03:02,467 Speaker 3: a player like Littrell Mitchell and greg Ingliss when they 61 00:03:02,507 --> 00:03:05,187 Speaker 3: based onto the scene, they were sort of so hot 62 00:03:05,587 --> 00:03:08,427 Speaker 3: to handle. They maintained it for a long time. It's 63 00:03:08,507 --> 00:03:10,187 Speaker 3: up to him to have that work ethic and that 64 00:03:10,307 --> 00:03:13,107 Speaker 3: determination to be like that for you know the next 65 00:03:13,347 --> 00:03:14,427 Speaker 3: nine or ten seasons. 66 00:03:15,587 --> 00:03:21,707 Speaker 2: Let's got a Super Rugby round sixers in the books, Hurricanes, Blues, Crusaders, Chiefs, 67 00:03:21,747 --> 00:03:24,307 Speaker 2: all inside the top six after well most of them 68 00:03:24,347 --> 00:03:26,827 Speaker 2: played six games, some just five. Are you willing to 69 00:03:27,667 --> 00:03:30,907 Speaker 2: install the Hurricanes as Super Rugby favorites? 70 00:03:32,147 --> 00:03:34,107 Speaker 3: Well, I've always been willing to do that, Pony. It's 71 00:03:34,107 --> 00:03:37,427 Speaker 3: not just because you know I'm on your show. There 72 00:03:37,427 --> 00:03:39,947 Speaker 3: are many things I like about the Hurricanes, although I 73 00:03:39,947 --> 00:03:44,227 Speaker 3: will say KURBYR enthusiasm, the Great. 74 00:03:44,147 --> 00:03:46,507 Speaker 2: Larry Dans, another good show, another good show. 75 00:03:47,027 --> 00:03:50,627 Speaker 3: Another really good show. Because you haven't really played anyone yet. 76 00:03:50,627 --> 00:03:52,667 Speaker 3: You've played, you've won, or you've beaten all the button 77 00:03:52,747 --> 00:03:55,827 Speaker 3: bottom teams. I noticed that the Hurricanes haven't quite played 78 00:03:55,867 --> 00:03:59,547 Speaker 3: anyone in and that top echelon, so let's just wait. 79 00:03:59,587 --> 00:04:02,627 Speaker 3: But I just love the way the Hurricanes play. They 80 00:04:02,707 --> 00:04:07,827 Speaker 3: scored what I'd consider a world of a try from 81 00:04:08,187 --> 00:04:10,907 Speaker 3: maybe seventy odd meters out, and they made it look 82 00:04:10,987 --> 00:04:14,427 Speaker 3: so easy, and they did it so quick that it 83 00:04:14,547 --> 00:04:16,867 Speaker 3: was like you would have been the hard pressed to 84 00:04:16,867 --> 00:04:19,747 Speaker 3: sprint alongside and keep up, because it wasn't just like 85 00:04:20,427 --> 00:04:23,947 Speaker 3: stop start. The flow is incredible that they've got I 86 00:04:23,947 --> 00:04:25,747 Speaker 3: think you know to try and talking about I think 87 00:04:25,787 --> 00:04:30,507 Speaker 3: Devin Flanders finished it, and he is one player who 88 00:04:30,507 --> 00:04:32,267 Speaker 3: I'd be quite happy to see him in an All 89 00:04:32,307 --> 00:04:35,547 Speaker 3: Blacks jersey. And I wonder whether someone like Dave Rennie 90 00:04:35,827 --> 00:04:38,427 Speaker 3: might just start taking a look at some of the 91 00:04:38,467 --> 00:04:41,067 Speaker 3: people he likes, and I'm sure Devin Flanders will be 92 00:04:41,107 --> 00:04:44,347 Speaker 3: standing out. And on that note, Reuben Love, what a 93 00:04:44,387 --> 00:04:47,187 Speaker 3: statement game from him. I don't think I've seen a 94 00:04:47,187 --> 00:04:50,707 Speaker 3: better cross kick like that as a football man yourself, 95 00:04:50,787 --> 00:04:54,667 Speaker 3: like me, Piney, that pass was like a Dutch team 96 00:04:54,787 --> 00:04:59,667 Speaker 3: in the nineteen seventies, you know, total football, Johann Krout, 97 00:05:00,387 --> 00:05:04,227 Speaker 3: changing directions, changing the point of attack. I thought switching 98 00:05:04,787 --> 00:05:05,787 Speaker 3: that was amazing. 99 00:05:05,827 --> 00:05:08,187 Speaker 2: That cross cat, yeah, I loved it too. It was 100 00:05:08,747 --> 00:05:10,907 Speaker 2: awesome to watch. And you're right. I mean that the 101 00:05:11,507 --> 00:05:14,027 Speaker 2: five games they've played are against the five teams who 102 00:05:14,067 --> 00:05:17,867 Speaker 2: currently occupy the bottom five positions on the table outside 103 00:05:17,907 --> 00:05:19,787 Speaker 2: the top six. So I get, I get exactly what 104 00:05:19,787 --> 00:05:22,187 Speaker 2: you're saying. Hey, did you see Peyton Spencer make his 105 00:05:22,267 --> 00:05:24,747 Speaker 2: debut for the Blues last night and then some really 106 00:05:24,787 --> 00:05:27,427 Speaker 2: cool scenes afterwards. Carlos was there watching on He looks 107 00:05:27,427 --> 00:05:28,627 Speaker 2: like he could still play. 108 00:05:28,347 --> 00:05:33,787 Speaker 3: By the way, Carlos is sickeningly sickeningly fit and well 109 00:05:33,827 --> 00:05:39,907 Speaker 3: put together and always quite humbling interviewing him, and the 110 00:05:39,907 --> 00:05:42,827 Speaker 3: way he sort of still looks like a total athlete, 111 00:05:42,827 --> 00:05:46,947 Speaker 3: and I mean he I think it's actually really nice 112 00:05:47,067 --> 00:05:50,627 Speaker 3: having a role model like Carlos, because he is. He 113 00:05:50,667 --> 00:05:53,387 Speaker 3: was quite happy for Peyton to play cricket. Peyton was 114 00:05:53,387 --> 00:05:57,387 Speaker 3: an outstanding cricketer at Hamilton Boys High and Carlos was 115 00:05:57,427 --> 00:06:00,627 Speaker 3: all good with that, and it was totally Peyton's call. 116 00:06:00,707 --> 00:06:02,667 Speaker 3: There was zero pressure. In fact, he was kind of 117 00:06:02,707 --> 00:06:05,427 Speaker 3: hoping he might just end up sticking to cricket, who's 118 00:06:05,427 --> 00:06:08,547 Speaker 3: a good, very good fast bowler. So now he's in 119 00:06:08,627 --> 00:06:11,987 Speaker 3: rugby and his dad's game. And look, he's a lovely kid. 120 00:06:12,307 --> 00:06:14,187 Speaker 3: Can we call him m kid? He's twenty two, yeah, 121 00:06:14,387 --> 00:06:19,707 Speaker 3: twenty one, he is, and I mean he's also you know, 122 00:06:20,147 --> 00:06:23,707 Speaker 3: there's so much potential there. It's just that I think 123 00:06:24,147 --> 00:06:26,587 Speaker 3: I don't think the shadow. I don't think Carlos will 124 00:06:26,987 --> 00:06:29,507 Speaker 3: cast a shadow. He's just like a Ronnie Clark. I 125 00:06:29,507 --> 00:06:32,827 Speaker 3: think Caleb's his own own player now and his dad 126 00:06:32,907 --> 00:06:35,627 Speaker 3: used to be amazing. That's all it is. But yeah, 127 00:06:35,667 --> 00:06:37,747 Speaker 3: I did appreciate it. When he was listening to all 128 00:06:37,787 --> 00:06:40,227 Speaker 3: the people who were here for him, Carlos had to 129 00:06:40,267 --> 00:06:42,667 Speaker 3: say remember mum and he goes, oh yeah, mum's here too. 130 00:06:42,747 --> 00:06:46,907 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, love that. Or just to finish with a 131 00:06:46,987 --> 00:06:49,827 Speaker 2: league football now, the Phoenix peak Brisbane yesterday. Do you know, 132 00:06:49,907 --> 00:06:54,707 Speaker 2: Jim that was the first time that the Phoenix have 133 00:06:54,787 --> 00:06:59,427 Speaker 2: won consecutive matches in the A League since November twenty 134 00:06:59,507 --> 00:07:01,987 Speaker 2: twenty four. That's a long time ago. 135 00:07:02,787 --> 00:07:05,507 Speaker 3: I can't believe that. I love that. Chris Greenacre, who 136 00:07:05,507 --> 00:07:07,747 Speaker 3: you know very well, I've met a few times over 137 00:07:07,787 --> 00:07:10,107 Speaker 3: the years because he's such a staple in New Zealand football. 138 00:07:10,387 --> 00:07:13,787 Speaker 3: I love that he's taken over the team, kept Oloway 139 00:07:13,867 --> 00:07:17,667 Speaker 3: Yemian goal. Many people would many managers would not do 140 00:07:17,827 --> 00:07:21,067 Speaker 3: that if he's had shown faith in a guy who's 141 00:07:21,107 --> 00:07:25,427 Speaker 3: gone viral around the world for his calamities. He's also 142 00:07:25,947 --> 00:07:28,947 Speaker 3: managed to somehow get the best out of Luke brook 143 00:07:29,027 --> 00:07:33,027 Speaker 3: Smith as teenager who's outrageous talent. And then of course 144 00:07:34,227 --> 00:07:38,027 Speaker 3: he provided the assist for is the Nigerian striker who 145 00:07:38,147 --> 00:07:42,467 Speaker 3: was really outstanding. My dream is for them to just 146 00:07:42,587 --> 00:07:45,827 Speaker 3: make the playoffs and have to play aukorand FC and 147 00:07:45,867 --> 00:07:48,867 Speaker 3: perhaps get a bit of redemption or at least, you know, 148 00:07:49,027 --> 00:07:51,587 Speaker 3: make it just so close that it's a nail bider. 149 00:07:52,067 --> 00:07:55,427 Speaker 3: That's that would be the ultimate redemption story, especially for 150 00:07:55,467 --> 00:07:59,347 Speaker 3: the for Oloway Yemian goal. But definitely I think for Greenacre, 151 00:07:59,387 --> 00:08:01,747 Speaker 3: he can they need to sign him up as manager. 152 00:08:02,267 --> 00:08:03,347 Speaker 3: He's waited long enough. 153 00:08:03,747 --> 00:08:06,707 Speaker 2: Yes, And I got a couple of my WhatsApp groups 154 00:08:06,707 --> 00:08:09,307 Speaker 2: were buzzing last night with that possibility that Auckland f 155 00:08:09,387 --> 00:08:13,187 Speaker 2: C finished third, the Phoenix get up and somehow get 156 00:08:13,267 --> 00:08:16,467 Speaker 2: into sixth and then three play six in an elimination 157 00:08:16,627 --> 00:08:19,627 Speaker 2: final in Week one of the Week one of the playoffs. 158 00:08:19,867 --> 00:08:22,067 Speaker 2: So off to go media, we go for Auckland f 159 00:08:22,107 --> 00:08:25,667 Speaker 2: C against Wellington Phoenix our first ever finals. Darby, how 160 00:08:25,707 --> 00:08:26,347 Speaker 2: good would that be? 161 00:08:27,107 --> 00:08:29,907 Speaker 3: I know that and that I think both teams have 162 00:08:29,947 --> 00:08:32,947 Speaker 3: shown really great signs. It was just that capitulation, which 163 00:08:33,027 --> 00:08:35,267 Speaker 3: is always tough to take, especially if can see the 164 00:08:35,267 --> 00:08:38,147 Speaker 3: Phoenix fans how much they're hurting. I think there's some 165 00:08:38,227 --> 00:08:40,747 Speaker 3: good signs there. And when I look at the team sheet, 166 00:08:40,827 --> 00:08:43,547 Speaker 3: I just go, I mean, come on, Bill Tuloma, You've 167 00:08:43,547 --> 00:08:46,867 Speaker 3: got it's so much talent there there is so much 168 00:08:46,907 --> 00:08:48,787 Speaker 3: talent and of course you know Tim Payne or that 169 00:08:48,907 --> 00:08:52,227 Speaker 3: and Alex ru for the Old Guard. Look, don't keep 170 00:08:52,267 --> 00:08:54,867 Speaker 3: the faith if you're part of Yellow Feet Fever is 171 00:08:54,907 --> 00:08:56,427 Speaker 3: still a great side in there. 172 00:08:57,707 --> 00:09:00,547 Speaker 2: Top stuff. James always enjoyed chatting to you mate. Thanks, indeed, 173 00:09:00,747 --> 00:09:03,547 Speaker 2: we'll do it again next Sunday. James mcconey huge part 174 00:09:03,547 --> 00:09:06,587 Speaker 2: of our Sundays. Catch him on the alternative Common Tree 175 00:09:06,627 --> 00:09:08,907 Speaker 2: collective crackos Walden across your socials as well. 176 00:09:09,707 --> 00:09:12,867 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live 177 00:09:12,987 --> 00:09:16,267 Speaker 1: to news Talks at b weekends from midday, or follow 178 00:09:16,307 --> 00:09:17,907 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio