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Speaker 1: You're trusted home for news, sport, entertainment, opinion and Mike

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Speaker 2: Togs Head been horning to welcome today good news on tourism.

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Speaker 2: We've got new data on spending and jobs in that secting.

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Speaker 2: Good news around new rules around the power bill at

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Speaker 2: your place as well. The wine harvest is underway?

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Speaker 3: Is really that early?

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Speaker 2: We simply this Fromargent Tenero has been meeting HBI and

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Speaker 2: Malay overnight, Mark and Jenny after Right of course, Steve

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Speaker 2: plus Richard Arnold with the Global perspective pasking Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the show seven Part six. I tell you what the

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Speaker 2: reason the war won't last long is. There are quite

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Speaker 2: a few Well, there are far too many people who

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Speaker 2: simply can't afford for it too. Obviously America's top of

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Speaker 2: that list, but Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Qatar are

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Speaker 2: not far behind them. Saudi Arabia has started a trial

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Speaker 2: of offering alcohol to top end business delegations. They'll follow

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Speaker 2: with high end hotels. Why because their future is tourism

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Speaker 2: and they've worked out as strict as their lifestyle may

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Speaker 2: be tourism. Trump's beliefs and sports started at all, of course,

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Speaker 2: and tourism is going to back that up. As for

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Speaker 2: Doha and Dubai, you only have to look at Dubai

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Speaker 2: in the landscape to see how serious they are about

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Speaker 2: a future beyond oil, and ironically, half that landscape is

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Speaker 2: being created in front of our eyes at eyewatering expenses.

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Speaker 2: They invent land that wasn't there, in the shape of

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Speaker 2: palms so they can stick yet another hotel on it.

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Speaker 2: RB Darbi, Doha and Dubai are brilliant examples of vision

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Speaker 2: and future planning, and nothing, certainly not a war is

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Speaker 2: going to stop it. Already the articles of flying, of course,

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Speaker 2: about Dubai's safe haven image being shattered, that is typical

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Speaker 2: of the modern media clickbait news cycle obsession, but it

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Speaker 2: is true to suggest that in a world where hubs

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Speaker 2: are a thing, an investment around them is real. Singapore

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Speaker 2: looks a lot better right now than Dubai. In the

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Speaker 2: Twelve Day War, you might remember, Katar got partially hidden

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Speaker 2: out of the woodwork. Came all the expats talking of

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Speaker 2: the surprise and shock of being at the beach one minute,

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Speaker 2: then back at the apartment the next that was twelve days,

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Speaker 2: and the world's moved on. You will note as of

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Speaker 2: yesterday flights are resuming out of the Emirates, and that

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Speaker 2: is an indication that these people are to be taken seriously.

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Speaker 2: There is no way in hell the hub dream, the

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Speaker 2: post oil vision is going to be up ended. Also,

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Speaker 2: never forget the Middle East as a region is vitally

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Speaker 2: important to the Americans and the world, not just for

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Speaker 2: royal but investment. Their prosperity is everyone's prosperity. There are

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Speaker 2: certain things history shows the world will tolerate and basically

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Speaker 2: carry on with. When the missiles land in Beirute, or

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Speaker 2: Tehran or Jerusalem, that's the Middle East. When the fragments

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Speaker 2: of drones land on the fairmonts of the Palm, that's

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Speaker 2: a different story, and not a story that will be

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Speaker 2: allowed to continue for long.

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Speaker 1: Why news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Britain several war related activities in fact, firstly,

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Speaker 2: the standoff between Starmer and Trump over support.

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Speaker 4: It was always going to be an unlikely romance. The

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Speaker 4: mister rules of Kirstarmer as of left leaning labor leader

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Speaker 4: versus mister no rules Donald Trump of the right. It

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Speaker 4: was an odd coupling, so to speak, but it does

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Speaker 4: feel to me like the odd coupling has really hit

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Speaker 4: a bit of a war.

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Speaker 2: And then I move to try and get some of

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Speaker 2: the Dubai based Brits back.

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Speaker 5: As of this morning, one hundred and thirty thousand British

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Speaker 5: nationals have now signed up to the Register Your Presence

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Speaker 5: program and a government charter flight will fly from Muscat

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Speaker 5: in the coming days.

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Speaker 2: Run meantime, and claiming the Americans are coming after their

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Speaker 2: enrichment facilities, the IAEI isn't sure there.

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Speaker 6: Has been no impact or no attack registered on the

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Speaker 6: Buscher Nuclear power plant, which is an operating nuclear power plant,

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Speaker 6: so completely different in dimension and possible consequences to a

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Speaker 6: place where you have some NUKA material store.

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Speaker 2: Then some rhetoric NT NYA, who's on the American teley

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Speaker 2: selling the sizzle. Here's the difference between us.

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Speaker 7: These mass murderers in Tehran, they target civilians.

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Speaker 8: We in Israel and America target the mass terrorists.

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Speaker 2: A little marco amount of calling that's increasingly raising eyebrows,

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Speaker 2: if not furrowing brows.

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Speaker 9: We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action.

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Speaker 9: We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces,

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Speaker 9: and we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after

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Speaker 9: them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher

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Speaker 2: Meantime, with the White House merchants, with Trump, Trump's just

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Speaker 7: They're hitting countries that were, you know, let's call them neutral.

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Speaker 7: I think they were surprised. I was surprised. And now

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Speaker 7: those countries are all fighting against them, and fighting strongly

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Speaker 7: against them. Someday they'll write a story and they'll say

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Speaker 7: why they did that. But they hit countries that had

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Speaker 7: nothing to do with what's going on. They were sort

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Speaker 7: of leaving everything alone. All of a sudden, they had

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Speaker 7: missiles shot in, which shows you the level of evil

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Speaker 7: that we're dealing with. They'll hit people that were actually

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Speaker 7: at least somewhat friendly and they had no problems with it.

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Speaker 7: Also hitting only civilian places, hotels and apartment buildings, and

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Speaker 7: we're hitting them where it is much more appropriate.

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Speaker 2: I still don't understand how he doesn't understand that. And

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Speaker 2: I said that yesterday, and I'm even more bewildered to

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Speaker 2: die if there's one mijor. Worrying thing about this war

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Speaker 2: is his inability to understand what's going on. Also states,

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Speaker 2: By the way, the primary seasons underway today early. We

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Speaker 2: got some contests in Arkansas, North Carolina and for this

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Speaker 2: blow in Texas.

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Speaker 10: If the Attorney General is the nominee, that risks everything

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Speaker 10: we've been working on for decades in Texas with Republican

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Speaker 10: leadership and conservatively policies which have made Texas the NBA,

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Speaker 10: the nation. All that's at risk, including President's second term agenda.

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Speaker 2: Use of the World in ninety Wait until you get

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Speaker 2: the dairy numbers if you think Deiry this year has

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Speaker 2: been good. Stand by twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Rachel Reeves has been outspreaking here well. The spring statement

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Speaker 2: yet to come, but she's sort of building up to that.

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Speaker 2: She's updated a growth forecast for Britain one point one

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Speaker 2: percent this year, which is nothing to write home about.

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Speaker 2: I would have thought, and then this is what worries me.

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Speaker 2: One point six for both twenty seven, twenty eight, one

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Speaker 2: point five and both twenty nine and thirty. So Britain

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Speaker 2: doesn't look like it's growing fifteen, Well, it much past six.

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Speaker 2: Now here we go for I'm sure in Partner's morning mate,

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Speaker 2: Very good morning, Mike. Come on in a world of

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Speaker 2: misery and uncertainty right now? What what number do you

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Speaker 2: want to start with? The sixth for butter, the four

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Speaker 2: for cheddar, the nine for skim milk means brilliant.

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Speaker 11: Come on in dairy, hey, so let's celebrate the good use.

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Speaker 11: I was a bit worried about the auction this morning, Mike,

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Speaker 11: because let's just say financial markets are under a bit

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Speaker 11: of stress at the moment, and while demand signals have

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Speaker 11: been pretty robust recently, I wasn't sure how this auction

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Speaker 11: was going to play out. Well I shouldn't have worried,

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Speaker 11: should I? Because, as you say, another very strong outcome.

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Speaker 11: So the price index Gold Deer Trade Price Entix has

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Speaker 11: lifted a for that five point seven percent. So this

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Speaker 11: is quite a marked reversal, isn't it. Sort of twenty

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Speaker 11: twenty five bad, twenty twenty six good. So we started

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Speaker 11: Dairy really hasn't missed a beat since then. So just

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Speaker 11: consider this, Mic the Global Dairy Trade Index on the

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Speaker 11: sixteenth of December was one thing thousand and eight. It's

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Speaker 11: now one two hundred and seventy one. That is a

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Speaker 11: twenty six percent rise since the low point before Christmas,

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Speaker 11: continues to be skimmed milk powdered. As you said, nine

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Speaker 11: point one percent, it's crazy. It's early thirty three percent

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Speaker 11: like a cryptocurrency than an agriproduct. So the whole milk

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Speaker 11: one yet Jedter four, Mozorella almost eight. So what I

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Speaker 11: would say, Mike is while the whole world seems a

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Speaker 11: bit as crazy as ever, all of our good friends

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Speaker 11: in the milking sheds right now can take some comfort

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Speaker 11: in healthy, very healthy commodity prices and actually just sort

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Speaker 11: of waxing lyrical. Think about the pillars of our economy.

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Speaker 11: Two key pillars, tourism dairy. They're both standing strong at

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Speaker 12: We've got to.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy that day, right and we're also building, which is good.

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Speaker 11: Well, we're getting consented. Statsu Zealand released the building consent

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Speaker 11: data for January twenty sixty yesterday thirty six thousand, nine

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Speaker 11: three percent higher if I look at the twelve months

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Speaker 11: We're not building, we're not consenting retirement homes that fell

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Speaker 11: seven point seven percent. Standalone home consents they're still climbing,

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Speaker 2: It's a slow rate of growth.

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Speaker 11: January is a single month, is almost fifteen percent higher

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Speaker 11: thirty seven thousand, is the highest yearly number of CONSENTSUS

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Speaker 11: late twenty twenty three, and I think very significantly. Auckland

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Speaker 11: things being equal, translate into a high level of bit

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Speaker 2: It's a gradual lift.

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Speaker 11: We're not heading back to the boom towns for the

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Speaker 11: sector should see better times.

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Speaker 2: Right the war. I note the defense docks in Korea

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Speaker 2: went through the roof yesterday, but the Americans have woken

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Speaker 2: this morning, haven't they.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so it seemed a bit weird yesterday because we

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Speaker 11: sort of, you know, the US markets looked surprisingly resilient,

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Speaker 11: but the cold hard truth of war has shaken that

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Speaker 11: resilience and global share markets have slumped. Although I would

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Speaker 11: say things are moving quite quickly. It looks very different

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Speaker 11: US markets have pulled, have have lifted a bit, but

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Speaker 11: energy prices might takeing a big hit. Brent crude sort

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Speaker 11: of that's been hovering between eighty two eighty three dollars now.

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Speaker 11: Just a bit of context here in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 11: it did hit ninety bucks. However, you convert this to

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Speaker 11: bring it back to us. At that stage, we were

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Speaker 11: in the low one hundreds. Oh sorry, in the late

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Speaker 11: December we were in the low one hundred. So if

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Speaker 11: I bring it back to New Zealand dollars in New

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Speaker 2: V Arma remains in a world to pay. A new

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Speaker 7: UK has been very very uncooperative with that stupid island

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Speaker 2: And so it goes. Richard Arnold all over the Warriors

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Speaker 2: analysis of the New Zealand I'm afraid to tell you

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Speaker 2: Morning Star is now forecasting one hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 16: Good morning Mine.

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Speaker 2: We all broadly agreed on the numbers it will be because,

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Speaker 16: don't think there's too much disagreement in light of what

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Speaker 2: How much of it's specific and we already know and

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Speaker 2: Can you explain to me because my trouble is, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Are they a troubled company in an industry that's booming.

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Speaker 16: I think they've got a number of problems. Might absolutely so,

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Speaker 16: All of those have gone up quite materially in recent years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are cost Having read the report, it sort

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Speaker 16: I think that the structural piece is something that the

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Speaker 2: We can only wish them well, appreciate it, Andy, Andy Bully,

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Speaker 2: Plan product disclosure statement and Milford's financial Advice provider disclosure

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Speaker 2: statement as well. Passking Starma is in trouble. You go

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Speaker 2: holl out this morning Gordon and Dent in the by

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Speaker 2: election where the Greens one smashed Labor who were in third.

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Speaker 2: So the Greens nationally this morning are up four. So

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Speaker 2: there's you bounce to twenty one, Labor down two on

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Speaker 2: sixteen they are tied with the Tories. The Greens are

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Speaker 2: now the most popular party among everyone under fifty, and

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Speaker 2: the labor vote has collapsed nationally, so are those who

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Speaker 2: voted labor last time around. Just thirty seven percent would

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Speaker 2: vote labor again. Twenty five have gone Green, eight percent

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Speaker 2: of gone Libdem and twenty percent don't know. So he's

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Speaker 2: in a world of pain.

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Speaker 17: Six forty five International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance,

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Speaker 17: peace of mind for New Zealand business inside.

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Speaker 2: Richard Morning, Gooding Mike, and watching the yellow chairs and

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Speaker 2: merts and the excuses and the rationale and the thinking

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Speaker 2: and where are we at?

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 18: Trump has given in this meeting in the Oval Office

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Speaker 18: with the Jew and Chancellor, the broadest assessment of the

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Speaker 18: Iran war. Unlike other US military operations the Pentagon. It's

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Speaker 18: not giving detailed briefings what they sort of used to

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Speaker 18: that in times past. Not right now. Trump is saying simply.

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Speaker 12: They have no navy. It spin knocked out.

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Speaker 7: They have no air force has been knocked out, they

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Speaker 7: have no air detection that's been knocked out.

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Speaker 12: Their radar has been knocked out.

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Speaker 18: Well, Trump still is indicating this could go on for

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Speaker 18: weeks and he is yet to make any formal statement

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Speaker 18: to the American people or the rest of the world

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Speaker 18: about what is happening. Israel has struck a site where

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Speaker 18: the so called Iranian Council of Experts was meant to

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Speaker 18: be voting on a short list of people to replace company.

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Speaker 18: It's not clear if that meeting actually was occurring. More specifically,

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Speaker 18: what the Pentagon is saying is that in the opening Salvos,

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Speaker 18: the first forty eight hours, there were nearly two thousand

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Speaker 18: US in Israeli strikes across almost fifty Iranian centers. That

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Speaker 18: includes bunker busting bombs, and they could be critical. Even

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Speaker 18: as the White House claimed that Iran's nuclear program was

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Speaker 18: quote obliterated by their attacks back in June, the IAEA,

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Speaker 18: the International Atomic Energy Agency, says the location of partly

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Speaker 18: enrich uranium still is unknown. Iran is believed to be

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Speaker 18: in possession of around four hundred kilogram of sixty percent

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Speaker 18: and rich uranium. President Trump also is making brief calls

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Speaker 18: to certain media outlets to give them his inside view.

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Speaker 18: The latest was Politico, where he claimed that Iran is

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Speaker 18: running out of missile launchers, while on the U S side,

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Speaker 18: Senator Richard Blumenthal says there is a serious shortage of

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Speaker 18: American Patriot anti missile defense system, So two sides to

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Speaker 18: that debate as well. Even so, the ABC networks Jonathan Carl,

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Speaker 18: based on two calls he had with Trump, describes Trump

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Speaker 18: in private as quote a president that feels invincible. He

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Speaker 18: says Trump told him that his success in Venezuela made

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Speaker 18: him less likely to accept in the Iranian concessions. He

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Speaker 18: also told Carl that back in twenty twenty four, U

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Speaker 18: S Intel under Biden suggested Iran was plotting to kill Trump.

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Speaker 18: So Trump says, of the Iyatola quote, I got him

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Speaker 18: before he got me. They tried twice, Well, I got

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Speaker 18: him first. We are hearing all kinds of shifting stories

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Speaker 18: of how Trump decided this was the critical moment for war.

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Speaker 18: The New York Times lays out the White House meeting

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Speaker 18: between Trump and Israel's Netanyahu on February. The Elle eavans

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Speaker 18: the Times saying nettan yo who was pushing for an attack,

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Speaker 18: and that possible dates were discussed at that time. So

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Speaker 18: factor that into the bizarre comment made yesterday by Secretary

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Speaker 18: of State Marco Ruby.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely was an eminent threat and the emminent threat was

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Speaker 9: that we knew that if Iran was attacked, and we

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Speaker 9: believed they would be attacked, that they would immediately come

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Speaker 9: after US.

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Speaker 18: Trump now is saying in the Oval Office that Iran

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Speaker 18: was going to strike first. So this is the latest

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Speaker 18: shift in the changing stories. Iran has not, of course,

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Speaker 18: immediately surrendered or agreed to any ongoing discussions. Instead, it

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Speaker 18: has shut down the straight of Hormus oil prices as

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Speaker 18: spiked to eighty US dollars a barrel could go to

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Speaker 18: one hundred and thirty. Some the saying here we are

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Speaker 18: already seeing an increase in petrol prices more likely, and

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Speaker 18: Iranian drone damage to Saudi oil refinery, wall streets on

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Speaker 18: the skids amid fears of a prolonged war, and Trump

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Speaker 18: and Rubio have refused to reject any thoughts of US

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Speaker 18: troops joining this. Boots on the ground happens, it would

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Speaker 18: likely be special forces meantime, as Aranslaan strikes in ten

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Speaker 18: different countries so far and air travel in the region

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Speaker 18: is in chaos. Finally, Israel has moved some of its

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Speaker 18: forces into Lebanon, where at least forty people have been

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Speaker 18: killed and two hundred and forty six wounded now as

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Speaker 18: they go after Hezbolam. In the last couple of days,

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Speaker 18: according to the Lebanese Health Ministry, some three hundred and

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Speaker 18: sixty thousand Israeli reserve soldiers have been mobilized to join

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Speaker 18: the Israeli army in the war against Iran. But that

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Speaker 18: does not include a thirty four year old Israeli man

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Speaker 18: named yah Ear. Yah Ear Netanyahu is the Israeli Prime

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Speaker 18: Minister's son. He's not in Israel and not subject to

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Speaker 18: call up. He is right now spending time in the

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Speaker 18: Sunshine State in Florida.

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Speaker 2: Catch up in a couple of days. By the way,

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Speaker 2: that reference he made to the New York Times piece,

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Speaker 2: look it up. It's lengthy, but it's a fascinating insight

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Speaker 2: into what allegedly happened. They talk to people. That's the

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Speaker 2: usual anonymity thing, based on the accounts of people with

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Speaker 2: direct knowledge. It's under the headline how Trump to say

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Speaker 2: to go with war with a run. It's well worth

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Speaker 2: reading our meantime, Russia is being Russia. They've reached out

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Speaker 2: to India and they've said, hey, you want a little

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Speaker 2: bit of oil. Guys. They were selling plenty of oil

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Speaker 2: to India, of course, until the US and India did

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Speaker 2: a FTA back in February, which involved India not buying

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Speaker 2: Russian oil anymore. So that's interesting. Meantime, Trump has said,

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Speaker 2: while the US has a good supply of the highest

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Speaker 2: munition's grade, it is not where we want to be

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Speaker 2: much additional high grade weaponry restored for US in outlying country.

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Speaker 2: Sleepy Joe Biden spent all his time in our country's

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Speaker 2: money giving everything to P. T. Barnum of Ukraine. So

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Speaker 2: he's now calling Zelensky pt Barnum and you don't think

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Speaker 2: he's mental. Nine minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate News talks,

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Speaker 1: there'd be.

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Speaker 2: Reference to thirty year mortgage with Andrew earlier on in

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Speaker 2: the program. If you think we got it bad, we

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Speaker 2: haven't got it bad. They've got it bad. Thirty year

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Speaker 2: fixed us up thirteen basis points to six one to two.

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Speaker 2: So they got something to think about housing. Wisn's and

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Speaker 2: no one of the housing markets in the trouble it

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Speaker 2: is now. The other thing you're hearing from the right

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Speaker 2: leaners at the moment is the testimony of Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 2: and Bill Clinton. The other day Hillary went mental when

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Speaker 2: absolutely nuts lost her. You know what, here's the audio.

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Speaker 2: You make up your own mind.

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Speaker 19: I have another ohtos that are being released of the.

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Speaker 3: Secretary as she is testifying from inside this room.

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Speaker 6: Can you please advise me as to whether or not

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Speaker 6: that's permissible and consistent with the rules, particularly given that

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Speaker 6: we have.

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Speaker 9: Asked for public hearing.

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Speaker 3: If there are photos that are being released of the

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Speaker 3: secretary she is testifying, can you please explain how we've done.

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Speaker 3: If you guys are doing that, I am done. You

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Speaker 3: can pull me a contempt from now until the cows

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Speaker 3: come home.

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Speaker 19: This is just typical behavior.

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Speaker 9: Oh for heaven, I would like to understand how that's promissible.

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Speaker 20: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 8: We all are abiding by the same rules.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Well, I would like to.

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Speaker 9: Take a break at this move.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to have gone for now.

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Speaker 12: Go off the records.

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Speaker 1: It's with business favor. Take your business productivity to the

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Speaker 1: next level.

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Speaker 2: They said she was screaming. Was she screaming? She wasn't screaming.

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Speaker 2: Lates invested confidence This is interesting. It's from ASB final

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Speaker 2: quarter of last year. Confidences lifted to eleven percent. It's

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Speaker 2: an increase from Q three headline this morning is really

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Speaker 2: about owning a home. It is now not seen as

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Speaker 2: the best return for your investment. Overall managed funds and

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Speaker 2: kiwisaber are better returns, which of course is technically true

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Speaker 2: at the moment. This was taken from data in October December,

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Speaker 2: so you might want to have a look at the

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Speaker 2: old qvsaber in a couple of weeks time after the war.

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Speaker 2: Your home is now third best investment. Housing follows shares

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Speaker 2: in publicly listed companies or rental property. You own a

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Speaker 2: term depositor, a general bank account. But the numbers very

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Speaker 2: widely in the age groups. And this is what's really

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Speaker 2: interesting for those under thirty, they of course think they

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Speaker 2: will never own a home anyway. They're leading the investment

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Speaker 2: perception ship. They say shares in publicly listed companies they've

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Speaker 2: never been through a crash. Of course, they haven't lived

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Speaker 2: through the GFC or any of that eighty seven, But

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Speaker 2: they say publicly listed companies and keep you saber provide

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Speaker 2: the best returns while the home is last place. If

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Speaker 2: you're over sixty, no surprise, you think your home is

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Speaker 2: your castle. It's where it's at, it's where it's always

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Speaker 2: been at They've been following these numbers since nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: There's no question there's a material ship going on, but

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Speaker 2: that will have been about the tech bubble of the

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Speaker 2: last year or so and the spend on AI and

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Speaker 2: the market's rising at a bit of bitcoin and all

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Speaker 2: that other stuff. But it's interesting in perception is reality,

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Speaker 2: isn't it at the end of the day. So maybe

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Speaker 2: housing is not what it was. And I got to

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Speaker 2: tell you the most interesting thing of the last couple

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Speaker 2: of months, as the recovery in the economy comes in,

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Speaker 2: is there a recovery in our economy without house prices booming?

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Speaker 2: That'll be the great test that's around our economic capacity.

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Speaker 2: What is booming, thank the good Lord. Apart from Derry,

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Speaker 2: is tourism a new insight into that in just a

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Speaker 2: couple of moments after the news which.

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Speaker 1: Is next credible, compelling the breakfast show you contress it's

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Speaker 1: the mic hous breakfast with Bailey's real estate all together

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Speaker 1: better across residential, commercial, and rural news.

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Speaker 2: Togs Head been only seven past seven, So is tourism

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Speaker 2: finally back to where it belongs? Knocking off dairy or

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Speaker 2: knocking on deairries Dora as the number one foreign income earner.

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Speaker 2: We've got. The Tourism Satellite Account report puts total expenditur

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Speaker 2: at over forty six billion for the year to March.

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Speaker 2: That's twenty five that's up three point three percent. Overseas

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Speaker 2: visitors spend is up one point two billion, seven percent lift,

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Speaker 2: so they're spending eighteen point one billion, eleven percent of

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Speaker 2: US three hundred and twenty seven thousand people now working tourism,

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Speaker 2: which is up two point eight percent. This is all good.

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Speaker 2: Rebecca Ingram is the tourism industry artro CEO and as

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Speaker 2: with as Rebecca, good morning, good morning, champagne time or

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Speaker 2: still more to do.

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Speaker 15: It's a lot of billions, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of billions.

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Speaker 15: It's a lot of billions.

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Speaker 21: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Look, the Tourism's Satellite account which came out east today

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Speaker 15: does give us a really good snapshot for how the

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Speaker 15: industry is performing. And as you just noticed, it's more

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Speaker 15: money and more jobs. And I always like seeing the

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Speaker 15: numbers going up.

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Speaker 2: The capacity and the ability to lift, because capacity airline

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Speaker 2: wise is not back. Is there more with this come from?

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Speaker 2: And to what extent?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, Well that's why it's important to know what period

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Speaker 15: this is covering, so it takes us through to March

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Speaker 15: twenty twenty five, so basically cast your mind back to

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Speaker 15: sort of this time last year, and that's when this

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Speaker 15: information finished. So there's actually been an enormous amount of

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Speaker 15: effort put in since then. So this is good. What

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Speaker 15: I'm anticipating is that the data that we get next

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Speaker 15: year will be even better because this summer we've seen

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Speaker 15: increased airline capacity, we have seen changes to our visa

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Speaker 15: settings for China, which we spoke about together a couple

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Speaker 15: of weeks ago, which has had a real difference. And

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Speaker 15: also we've seen quite considerable activity to stimulate demand. So

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Speaker 15: come and have an event here. We've got an amazing

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Speaker 15: new convention center, we've got this beautiful new stadium about

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Speaker 15: to open a christ jop. My expectation is that next

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Speaker 15: year's Tourism Sacillite account will be even better.

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Speaker 2: We'd Grant Webster from Tourism Holdings On he said this year,

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Speaker 2: at some point you will beat or knock off Dairy.

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Speaker 2: Would that be your gut?

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Speaker 21: Oh? I do?

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Speaker 15: I do like Grant's predictions. I think we've got a

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Speaker 15: little bit still to go. So together, we are contributing

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Speaker 15: thirty eight point six percent.

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Speaker 21: Of total exports.

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Speaker 15: You know, our mates and dairy and tourism, we are

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Speaker 15: doing an amazing job at the moment for our economy.

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Speaker 15: I think we've got a couple of cycle theft before

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Speaker 15: we lap them. But granted, I maybe we should be

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Speaker 15: taking a bet.

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Speaker 16: On that one.

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Speaker 2: I reckon a nice to talk to you, Rebecca, appreciate it,

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Speaker 2: Recbecca Ingram, who's tourism into cyrt row CEO. And that

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Speaker 2: doesn't take into account this morning's dairy numbers. If you

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Speaker 2: missed that, I mean, it's just ridiculous. What's happening in

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Speaker 2: dairy at the moment. Five from five from the auctions

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Speaker 2: and not just five from five this year big big

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Speaker 2: dairy story, not to get off tourism for a moment,

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Speaker 2: but if you followed the dairy story, last year's dip

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Speaker 2: within the industry as a mistake. They panicked, they thought

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Speaker 2: things were going south, they started to sell off. The

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Speaker 2: whole thing's being reversed. So that's encouraging. Ten minutes past

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Speaker 2: seven So that's two big players in the economy. Now,

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Speaker 2: news of you power bill? What can I offer you?

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Speaker 2: The electricity authority is telling retailers to check on an

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Speaker 2: a smoke screen?

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Speaker 3: Look, this is really not going to shift the dial

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Speaker 3: for Kew's in terms of costs. Certainly we do support

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Speaker 3: really still need to shop around to get the best deal.

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Speaker 2: So talking about structural reform, is this is this fiddling

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is tinkering around the edges. The fundamental issues

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Speaker 3: competition settings. That's really what we think the regulator needs

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Speaker 3: I think that's that is a really good I think

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Speaker 2: But if they contact you with a little bit of

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Speaker 2: bit of turn through that mightn't you?

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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And as I say, we really support any greater

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Speaker 3: information and transparency for consumers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah good, all right, nice to talk to you. Who

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Speaker 2: are you? But electric Key. We CEO twelve and it's

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Speaker 2: past seven. Quinton's around the war. Ravens down good news.

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Speaker 2: Ravens Down are saying we've got enough fertilizer in the

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Speaker 2: country to cover autumn. Last time around, this was you know,

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Speaker 2: Israel Iran June. Remember that twelve days went up by

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Speaker 2: about fifteen percent is fairly quick the price rise. And

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Speaker 2: Ukraine of course was another story altogether, so fifteen percent,

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Speaker 2: but equally it came straight back down. But we've got

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Speaker 2: enough through autumn, so that's encouraging. But I noticed yesterday

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Speaker 2: we've got to adjust our mindset this whole thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: LNG and the government's plan for New Plymouth bringing the LNG.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the gas price has gone through the roof.

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Speaker 2: I mean, ask yourself why. And then all the so

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Speaker 2: called experts came out yesterday going see see this is

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Speaker 2: a disaster of an idea. Look how much LNG is

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Speaker 2: the What if we were in the market today buying

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Speaker 2: ALLERNG bringing into the car. I mean, for goodness sake,

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Speaker 2: if you're going to react every five minutes of bombs

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Speaker 2: dropped or a missile flies in a deeply uncertain world,

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Speaker 2: then you're never going to get anything done. These are

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Speaker 2: big picture discussions. Big picture idea is big picture decisions.

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Speaker 2: The LNG idea is a half decent idea. It's not

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Speaker 2: the greatest idea. It was a half decent idea. And

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Speaker 2: just because somebody dropped a missile yesterday doesn't mean the

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Speaker 2: on a minute by minute, second by second basis on

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Speaker 2: big picture ideas. Otherwise we'll go nowhere Fast fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: Winston, Peter's Foreign minister on the war. Obviously, I think

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Speaker 2: twenty years. For goodness sake, what the hell have we

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Speaker 2: been doing? So I'll ask him about that as well. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: seventeen pasted grape harvesters. I'm sure you're well aware by

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Speaker 2: now's underway because a lot of talk about it being

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Speaker 2: the earliest ever. So Hawks Bay marl m Canterbury are

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Speaker 2: picking and it's the magic time of year, of course,

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Speaker 2: where you want a nice warm day and those cool

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Speaker 2: autumn nights just to lock in all that flavor. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Philip Griggin's the one growers Boston. He's with us, Philip Morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Lindsay Parkinson, Rose family, Wira serving On Blanc

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Speaker 2: who won that award over the weekend in London. He

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Speaker 2: was on the program yesterday. He said for him anyway

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Speaker 2: at River it's normal. How much is normal? How much

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Speaker 2: is early?

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Speaker 21: Well, it does depend upon the region that people are

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Speaker 21: in the summer in many areas started off with a

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Speaker 21: real bang. We had all that walks in late November

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Speaker 21: and early December, if you remember, Mike. It's pulled back

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Speaker 21: a little bit since then. But if overall, if we

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Speaker 21: look around the country, it's early in most places, and

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Speaker 21: it's a continuation of a trend we've seen in recent years.

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Speaker 2: And what's that mean long term? Does it change profoundly

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Speaker 2: the profile of a grape?

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Speaker 21: Potentially it can. Potentially it can. In fact, that's why

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Speaker 21: we've got a big research program program underway looking at

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Speaker 21: the genetics of serving On bloc and selecting some thousands

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Speaker 21: of new plants to ensure that we've got material that

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Speaker 21: will continue to produce the great flavors that we want

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Speaker 21: in the future. But in a world where harvest is

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Speaker 21: going to be earlier, it's going to be warmer with

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Speaker 21: the more variable.

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Speaker 2: What are we thinking twenty six quality v volume, big volume?

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Speaker 21: No, we don't think it's going to be a big volume.

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Speaker 21: There's plenty of wine and tanks at the moment from

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Speaker 21: previous vintages, so I don't think too many wineries are

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Speaker 21: short of wine. So we would expect an average or

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Speaker 21: smaller harvest at the stage. Quality well, a bit too

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Speaker 21: early to tell, but if the weather we've had in

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Speaker 21: February in most areas, and as you'll know, January was

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Speaker 21: up and down a bit across the country, but February

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Speaker 21: was pretty good over all, nice warm days. As you described,

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Speaker 21: cool nights. We've certainly had those the last few nights.

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Speaker 21: Those cool nights are really important for flavor development and

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Speaker 21: colored development. Things will be looking good.

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Speaker 2: Good Style likes to talk to you, Philip, Philip Gregan,

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Speaker 2: who's the ne using the wine grows Wilst we'll see

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Speaker 2: how the whole thing unfolds. We got grapes next door

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Speaker 2: But we'll see how it goes. Come back to Question

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Speaker 2: not tie into the United Nations and various charters. Luxeon

870
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: got bogged down in the legalities of it in a

871
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: Monday walked it back or some of his comments back

872
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: yesterday about all the actions to eliminate Orasiam being good actions.

873
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: But then Hipkins started banging on about the UN, as

874
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: though New Zealand is the boss of the UN. New

875
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: Zealand was exclusively given details of the material the United

876
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: States acted on, and has insight that no other country

877
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: has as to whether there is a so called eminent

878
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 2: threat labour. Hopkins and the media do this every time

879
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: they try and place New Zealand, a tiny, insignificant country

880
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the world, into the center of

881
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: all global action, as though we somehow affect it, can

882
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: change it, or explain it, participate in it, or even

883
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: stop it Esthoteric. International law is of little interest to

884
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: most of us on a daily basis. Arguing over United

885
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: Nations charters is the stuff of Chardonnay and Thornden and

886
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: people far removed from regular New Zealanders lives and thought patterns.

887
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: It's a dumb game trying to trap a government into

888
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: saying random stuff in the hope they get a headline

889
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: or apology or scalp. This has nothing to do with us.

890
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: Like the weather, it will affect us, but we don't

891
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: drive it, influence it, or even know a lot about it. Also,

892
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: for what it's worth, by arguing the way labor does,

893
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 2: they are hopelessly out of step with your average New Zealander.

894
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: Who I suspect If you ask the simple question, is

895
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: getting rid of the crazies in Iran a good idea?

896
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: The answer would be yes. Asking Mike, I always watch

897
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: a question time. Yesterday, Hopkins actually came over looking pathetic

898
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: and not grown up. I agree, Mike. We got the

899
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: frost fans going here at North Canterbury and the vineyards. Well,

900
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: that's a good sign. What happened to Luxe and Mike

901
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 2: was an election losing day. I mean, what a pile

902
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: of crap. For goodness sake, Audrey Young, who I normally love.

903
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: I still love her, of course I love her. Everyone

904
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 2: loves Audrey Young. But she said it's a clear current moment.

905
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: It was a clear current moment. Can lux and recover?

906
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: I mean, for I mean goodness sake. They were baiting

907
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: them on Monday. In the first of all, no one

908
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: watches the pre conference post cabinet apart from losers like me.

909
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: They were baiting him, and they got him, and he

910
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: got himself tangled up a bit. What I will be

911
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: very interested in is what Winston Peters thinks of all

912
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: of this, because of course he hasn't been able to

913
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: comment because he's been off shore. He's still offshore, but

914
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: he's made himself available to this program this morning, so

915
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: he's an argentina. I don't know what to start with, actually,

916
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: because meeting Harvey a Malay is I would have thought interesting,

917
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: if not fascinating, And we haven't done that for twenty years,

918
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: and why we haven't done that for twenty years is

919
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: probably a question worth asking. But then we've got to

920
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: get onto the wall. So I will talk to him

921
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: about that. But then, but then, but then I've got

922
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: Nick Gill who's leaving the rugby Union. That's not the

923
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 2: interesting but the interesting bit. He's going to the Baltimore Ravens.

924
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 2: He gets to hang out with Lamar Jackson and Derreck Henry.

925
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: I reckon, I'd lead the program to hang out with

926
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson, but I'm not as qualified

927
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 2: as Nick. That's probably why he got the job. Anyway,

928
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: They're both in the next half hour of the program.

929
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: So why on earth would you want to go anywhere?

930
00:44:54,719 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: Newsless next, no fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The

931
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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast with Alveda, Retirement, Communities, Life, Your Way, News Talks,

932
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: head Well.

933
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 2: Tis Wednesday, Mike Mitchell, Jilly Anderson, shortly twenty three minutes

934
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: away from out. How Foreign Minister is in Argentina this morning,

935
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: drumming out business and cooperation between our two countries. It's

936
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 2: been almost twenty years since a meeting of the sort

937
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: has been held. So Winston Peter's is with us. Good morning,

938
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: Good morning, Harba Malay is larger than life, seems larger

939
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: than life. What's it like being in a room with them?

940
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 8: Well, he's a very impressive person, of course, but also

941
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 8: very well. He has a certain charisma about him and

942
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 8: a certain credibility because he is a serious economist, and

943
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 8: there are very few of those in this world today

944
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 8: with some political experience, and that's the difference. So, yes,

945
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 8: we had an excellent conversation and I was very very

946
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 8: grateful to him to give us the time.

947
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: Can you explain why it's been twenty years since we've

948
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 2: done business with this particular part of the world in

949
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: a way, perhaps we should be doing business. No, I can't.

950
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 8: You're quite right, but you know, no, it's not een

951
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 8: years since I was last there as Foreign Minister, and

952
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 8: there's been others between me and never came here. Look,

953
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 8: I kind of think, I don't know if you remember

954
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 8: the Orlande regime, so circa ninety two, the fall of

955
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 8: the democratic government in chilean as a consequence, we sort

956
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 8: of took a downturn from the Laybor party's side and

957
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 8: at court national unawares as well. But all those decades

958
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 8: we didn't put the effort into our South American continental potential,

959
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 8: both in business and trade.

960
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: The economic turnaround that he's famous for allegedly, is it real?

961
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: How disrupted politically and socially is it has it been.

962
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 8: Well, I've got it very cautious because you know, I'm

963
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 8: an outsider and it's their domestic politics. But the reality

964
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 8: is they're going to see at the moment and have

965
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 8: sort of becoming very clear to them that the delays

966
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 8: and the heavy red tape and all the regulations have

967
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 8: impeded their growth over the years. So, for example, in

968
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 8: some of the rare minerals next door, then very same topography,

969
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 8: everything almost identical. The market in really fifty billion dollars

970
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 8: plus the same market in Argentina five billion. And they

971
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 8: are looking at that really hard and saying, look, we've

972
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 8: made some classic mistakes. We can do so much better.

973
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 8: The wills they always say. At the moment, I think,

974
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 8: and they look like they're pretty focused.

975
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: Where do we fit in? Economically?

976
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 8: Well, we're one tenth the size, one tenth the size,

977
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 8: and population as well. There's a lot of similarity, of

978
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 8: course for many many reasons. But again, where do we

979
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 8: fit in? Well, how shall I say that we're beginning

980
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 8: to see that we've got rare minerals and the problem

981
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 8: is that we've got all the sort of work opposition

982
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 8: to it. Not understanding that these rare minerals are absolutely

983
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 8: critical or future for the self resilience in the future

984
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 8: as well going forward, that there's not an option. Every

985
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 8: other country's brassing this accepting Little Old New Zealand wants

986
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 8: to pull the on of the carpet over its head

987
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 8: and say we want to don't want to be part

988
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 8: of the world.

989
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: We got a connectivity issue with the continent. Generally there

990
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: are enough planes going direct, No, there's not.

991
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,479
Speaker 8: That's another good issue because we were doing far better

992
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 8: way along that pre COVID than we're doing now. We've

993
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 8: got to kept ourselves back in the game. But of

994
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 8: course we've got engine shortages and what have you, and

995
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 8: so of other airlines. But the Auckland has begun and

996
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 8: becoming an Asian hub on the way to South America,

997
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 8: and we've got to do much better at the airport

998
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 8: in Auckland as well as make better connection into South America.

999
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,959
Speaker 2: Talk to me about Iran. This is your first chance

1000
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 2: to talk about it. Giving you Riverseas has luxem buried

1001
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: himself in a psychobabble the other day and trying to

1002
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 2: talk about the legality of this. Could he have done

1003
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: it better? Should we even be discussing it? Given and

1004
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: we're at the bottom of the world and we're not

1005
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: part of this.

1006
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 8: Well, look to cut to the chase. The reality is

1007
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 8: that I'd rather have a serious national legal experts citing this,

1008
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 8: then people like Helen Clark and others who are not

1009
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 8: qualified in that very very critical area of a academic understanding,

1010
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 8: and be the circumstantial understanding there bad where we've had

1011
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 8: forty seven years of growing terrorism out of Iran appalling

1012
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 8: circumstances and nwing those in palling circumstances. Eighty eight people

1013
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 8: lost their lives there. I sat in Argentina and Bonos

1014
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 8: Aires at the very time Helen Clark was saying we

1015
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 8: live in a benign geostrategic environment. She was wrong then

1016
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 8: and she's wrong now. And I'm really saying, at this

1017
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 8: point in time, here comes the next real issue, because

1018
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 8: it's modernized challenges.

1019
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 12: We face.

1020
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 8: The rule of law on the streets of Auckland the

1021
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 8: same as the rule of law internationally. To make it stand,

1022
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 8: somebody has to enforce it. And these people done was

1023
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 8: to see anything enforced in the same way. If it

1024
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 8: happened on the streets of Writer, of the streets of Walkin,

1025
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 8: we'd have anarchy and chaos. We've got the internationally, and

1026
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 8: some countries are kicking back and saying, no, we are

1027
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 8: dealing with a bunch of Rigis fanatics and they cannot

1028
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 8: be trusted. And that's where we're at the prison moment.

1029
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: So you back America, whether it's legal or not.

1030
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 8: No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying there's something new

1031
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 8: here that's not so new. If we look at the

1032
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 8: collection of terrorist actions, they have been financing proxies all

1033
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 8: around the world, even as far as Australia, in major

1034
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 8: terrorist activities. They've been doing it for decades. But all

1035
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 8: of a sudden, now you've got a sort of a constantina

1036
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 8: of concern where some countries are saying enough, we are

1037
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 8: going to stop you right here, right now. And then

1038
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, all those geostrategic experts in history

1039
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 8: might have your foreign affairs are saying, oh, we should

1040
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 8: have the rule of law. Well, my point is you're

1041
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 8: not looking at the same circumstances now. It's not a

1042
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 8: back of backing anybody or opposing the one. We are

1043
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 8: facing new circumstances in twenty twenty six, and we should

1044
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 8: we have to look at them with new eyes.

1045
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: Why couldn't lux and say it like that.

1046
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 8: Well, I'm the Minister of Foreign Affair.

1047
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 12: Why don't you guys ask me?

1048
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: Well, we did, and you couldn't talk until this morning,

1049
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: and now you're saying it. So that's nice. And I

1050
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 2: just wonder if the Labor Party and those sort of

1051
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: people are stuck in this esoteric conversation that missus the

1052
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: average New Zealanders who see Iran for what it is

1053
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: and probably aren't going to miss the regime.

1054
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 8: Well, I think their part is in the quandry, and

1055
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 8: I think Hopkins is in a serious quandary. You've got

1056
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 8: two former leaders being.

1057
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 12: On as O.

1058
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 8: Labor hasn't got a leader in parliament.

1059
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 12: Now.

1060
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 8: If I was the leader of the Layer Party, I'll

1061
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 8: be around to see those two leaders and say either

1062
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 8: you shut your mouth or do just something about it.

1063
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 8: I'm the leader right here, right now. You're not going

1064
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 8: to ruin my cause by if you're having as are

1065
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 8: you're my proxy.

1066
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you. Winston Peter's out of Argentina

1067
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: this morning. Yes, three trucks and a clown car. We'll

1068
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 2: see you in a moment.

1069
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Speaker 1: Seventeen two The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

1070
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Speaker 13: It'd be.

1072
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 2: Mike Winnie's just the very best foreign minister. We've had

1073
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 2: great point about the current wines saying and doing nothing

1074
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 2: about Iran, but when someone has the balls to actually

1075
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: do something, it's all legal. A good interview with Winston. Yeah, see,

1076
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: that's the Winston. I enjoy the Winston of last week

1077
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: or was it the week before, who was baiting the

1078
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 2: Cook Island Green MP. That's the Winston we don't need.

1079
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: But the Winston you just heard is the Winston we want.

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Speaker 2: Cheap shot Reluxe and Mike Media dron Goo, thanks for that.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a cheap shot at all. He's the Prime minister.

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00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 2: He asked for accountability and he got himself. He worked

1083
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: himself into a lather on Monday. He was baited by

1084
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: the media. But the problem, as I said yesterday on

1085
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: the program, you can't expect better of the media the media.

1086
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 2: You are what the media are. And normally i'd bag

1087
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: the media and defend Luxon in a situation like that,

1088
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: but he was his own worst enemy. And this is

1089
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: what I've said on the program over and over and

1090
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: over and over again. He needs to own the floor.

1091
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: He's in charge, not them. He needs to work out

1092
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: what he needs to say, how he needs to say.

1093
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: You heard Peter say that. I mean the answer was

1094
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: just a perfect answer. You know, do you back them

1095
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 2: as it illegal? If the answer was a perfect answer,

1096
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: you can't go anywhere once he's given the answer he

1097
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: just gave, whereas Luckson didn't give that answer. A great

1098
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 2: interview with Winston time to spend eighteen months as prime

1099
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: minister in the next election. I don't think that's going

1100
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Speaker 2: to happen. But what did I say before the break?

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00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 2: Three trucks in the clown car? So what I said?

1102
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 2: Why couldn't lucks And say it like that? Three trucks,

1103
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: three clown cars. That's got to be a record, doesn't it.

1104
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 2: I actually wondered if it was a why couldn't lucks

1105
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: And say it like that? How many trains? How many trucks?

1106
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: How many clown cars? Mike, you're a massive if one fanny.

1107
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 2: You're going over to watch live No, I almost certainly

1108
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: will never go watch a y if one event, and

1109
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 2: even more so now I'm just not a live event person.

1110
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: I don't enjoy the television coverage these days, and if

1111
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: you get the app, the f one app, and you

1112
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: follow every car and on board and all that stuff,

1113
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,479
Speaker 2: you get something that you can't even hope to replicate live.

1114
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: And of course now are these new cars which will

1115
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: be fascinating. You got no idea what's happening with them?

1116
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: Is the battery down? Why isn't he overtaking? Oh, he's

1117
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: got no battery. You won't know that when it's happening

1118
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: because you you won't get any commentary. The commentary will

1119
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 2: be the key to all of this. Now listen, I've

1120
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 2: got to get Nick on the program. Nick Gill's leaving

1121
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: the Rugby Union to go walk work for the Baltimore Ravens.

1122
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's a dream job. More in a moment,

1123
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: tend away.

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00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities News togs.

1125
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: Head bes but I right away from another departure at

1126
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: the Rugby Union, the longtime All Blake's head of Performance,

1127
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: Nick Gill after twenty years, is after the NFL and

1128
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens, where he will become vice president VP

1129
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: of Health and Performance. Nick's with us, Nick Morning.

1130
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 13: Good morning, Good morning, thanks for having me.

1131
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: Not at all as in the NFL tragic myself. This

1132
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: has got to be a dream job.

1133
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 13: Still pinching to myself as we speak. It's a hell

1134
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 13: of an opportunity.

1135
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: Are you an NFL fan per se?

1136
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 13: I have sort of been to the last couple of years.

1137
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 13: I've loved it for a little while. I sort of

1138
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 13: tried to get into a long time ago, but didn't

1139
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 13: probably understand the game enough. But now, no, I've been

1140
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 13: a bit of an NFL fanatic for the last two years.

1141
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: Have you visited them, because if you look at programs

1142
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 2: like hard Knocks and stuff, the facilities and the medical

1143
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: and the health and the money around those teams and

1144
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: players is next level, isn't it.

1145
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, you know, I've last couple of years, I've

1146
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 13: been to the Bears forty nine ers and then for

1147
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 13: my interviewer at the Ravens. So the facilities are just ridiculous. Yeah,

1148
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 13: just absolutely mind blown. Huge squads of players, so they

1149
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 13: have to be big. But it's the fact that it's

1150
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 13: just what they have. They said, everything you need and

1151
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 13: not one of them, they have ten of them, you know.

1152
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 13: So yeah, it's pretty crazy.

1153
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 2: And when you talk about huge squad, so fifty three

1154
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: play at any given moment. Then you've got the practice squad,

1155
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 2: and then you've got all the training in the off

1156
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: season stuff. So you're dealing with many, many different sorts

1157
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: of people. And I what's your assessment of the greats?

1158
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: I look at it like a Derrick Henry or a

1159
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and what physically they can do. Are they

1160
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: the greatest athletes in the world? Do you think or

1161
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 2: would the All Blacks match them in certain areas? Oh?

1162
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 13: Like, I think I think it's just different. We've got some,

1163
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 13: like the All Blacks have got some freakishly talented athletes,

1164
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 13: and I think it's just what I see in the

1165
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 13: likes of a Lamar Jackson for example, is you know,

1166
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 13: it's executing, you know, the most finest skill and high

1167
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 13: high pressure at high speed, and we have athletes that

1168
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 13: do that in rugby. Yeah, it's just it's just different.

1169
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 13: So physically, you know that there's some talent physically in

1170
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 13: the NFL, just like in a be from a skill

1171
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 13: of decision making under pressure and skill execution under pressure.

1172
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 13: It's just different. But but but I you know, I'm

1173
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 13: not I'm not downplaying how special some of these athletes are.

1174
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 13: But we've got them and redeated.

1175
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: What have you when you say health and performance, health

1176
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: holistically or what they eat or everything.

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00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 13: Everything injury, regabilitation, nutrition, sports, science, well being, just everything.

1178
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 13: You know, you want to perform at the highest level

1179
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 13: every single weekend. You know, and and and and play

1180
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 13: your best game every week. You know, health and performance

1181
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 13: is about that. It's about mind, body and soul. You know,

1182
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 13: like we need we need neggles to be sorted. We

1183
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 13: need to not get hurt. We need to be physically

1184
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 13: dominant to be able to dominate the opposition. So we

1185
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 13: need a strong and powerful and to do that, you've

1186
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 13: got to eat well. You got to eat well, you

1187
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 13: got to sleep well. You know, you need message, you

1188
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 13: need all these things. You know, you need to be

1189
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 13: able to switch on and switch off. So that's sticks

1190
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 13: the program, the program that I'll be leading is all encompassing.

1191
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 13: So it's pretty much everything away from the football field.

1192
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: Baltimore's really cold in winter, Ray Yeah, yeah.

1193
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 13: A couple of weeks ago it was pretty cold. There

1194
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 13: was nowhere, there was no everywhere, and this this little

1195
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 13: key we rocked up in shorts, didn't he so forgot.

1196
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: Good on, well, listen, go well. I think it's just

1197
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: the greatest thing I've heard in a decent period of time.

1198
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 2: I assume you'll be pinching yourself and you just love

1199
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: the dream and you can't ask more than that.

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00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 13: It's going to be a hell of an event. So

1201
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 13: I have never done an emat, so I'm trending below that.

1202
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: Good on you go well, appreciate it very much, Doctor

1203
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: Nick gill all Blacks, head of Performance, heading off to

1204
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens. Imagine dealing with Lamar Jackson, if you know,

1205
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: if this means anything, if you're just dealing with Lamar

1206
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: Jackson on a daily basis, do you call him sir?

1207
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: Or Lamar or yo? Jacko? How about that? Buddy?

1208
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 21: Uh?

1209
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: Politics Wednesday? In a couple of moments, Mark and Jinning

1210
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: on the mic Hosking Breakfast, I don't.

1211
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 5: Need a You're in my.

1212
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: Asking the questions.

1213
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 13: Others won't.

1214
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Ranger of a Sport, s V,

1215
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: The Ultimate Performance, s UV News Talks.

1216
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 21: Ed V, the.

1217
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: Big Wronger.

1218
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 19: You and.

1219
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: It's not But I'm thinking.

1220
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 12: Big Runger meets Landon l Ray.

1221
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: Was the but but yes, but I'm not a Lena

1222
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 2: del Rey expert enough to be able to go so

1223
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: boldly forth and say that. But you are so god

1224
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: bless you. It's Mitski, of course, who else her eighth album?

1225
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 2: Am I alone? And thinking I missed the first seven?

1226
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 13: I was just about to ask you if you thought

1227
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 13: that it was a similar bit a fifth one.

1228
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, it says here, just allow me

1229
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: to refer to my notes. This may be the Mitski

1230
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: esque Mitski album.

1231
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 13: Yet, yeah, that's that's what I thought.

1232
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: You're about to say that. I can tell there's eleven

1233
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: meandering tracks of this must be a long album. It

1234
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: would be a very long album, thirty four minutes and

1235
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 2: twenty three seconds. The album is called Nothing's About to

1236
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 2: Happen to Me Lesson in life and in Iran. It's

1237
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: eight minutes past eight now for politics Wednesday, and we

1238
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: found Ginny Anderson. We found my Oh yeah, I need

1239
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: to either done that right now. I'm not going to

1240
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: be able to do it. Come and fix my phone.

1241
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: What we did this morning is we decided to do

1242
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,959
Speaker 2: this on the phone. And so just before we came

1243
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: in today, the boss goes, hey, do you know how

1244
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: to make the phone system work, and I obviously went

1245
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have the slightest idea. I've got people for that.

1246
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: But the people who do that didn't come in and

1247
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: do it, and they've just done that. So it's not

1248
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: quite how I remember having. Anyway, Mark Mitchell's with us

1249
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: along with Ginny Anderson. Good morning, good morning, good morning.

1250
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 19: Good morning morning, Joe.

1251
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: Now, Mark, I'm going to I'm going to put you

1252
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: on the spot slightly because this isn't your in your purview,

1253
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: but we're having a little bit of correspondence from people.

1254
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: This is the situation of New Zealand is stuck in Dubai.

1255
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: There's a growing angst around the what's the government doing

1256
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 2: for us? Beyond you know, register on the whatever the

1257
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 2: website is. And I'm sort of saying to people, what

1258
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 2: is it you expect the government to do charter planes

1259
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: and get you out? So the question I have for

1260
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 2: you is is the government in contact with any other

1261
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: government Britain or Australia to do anything tangible about people

1262
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: stuck in that part of the world or is there

1263
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: literally nothing we can do?

1264
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 22: So look, I think that the answer to that would

1265
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 22: be yes. Although there's a caveat to that is that

1266
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 22: that's the Fire Minister's role in the Prime Minister's role.

1267
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 22: But I'm sure that there is communication going on amongst

1268
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 22: governments in terms of having our people stuck in Iraq, sorry,

1269
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 22: in the Middle East. Look at the end of the day,

1270
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 22: my own daughter and granddaughter up in Dubai with my

1271
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 22: son in law and they are getting regular updates from

1272
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 22: the government. They have registered online with the embassy and

1273
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 22: also the lay's advice understand from Winston was with the

1274
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 22: New Zealand as well. We have put a bit of

1275
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 22: a plan together for them in terms of next moves

1276
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 22: we have been I was talking to the Prime Minister

1277
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 22: on the Sunday to make sure that we're doing all

1278
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 22: that we can to get the information and looking after

1279
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 22: our people in the Middle East, but also especially with

1280
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 22: our communities back here in New Zealand, who of course

1281
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 22: feel vulnerable at a time like.

1282
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 2: This, When do you pull the trainers, what do you

1283
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 2: need to do to pull a trigger for a plane

1284
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 2: or help or rescue or something.

1285
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 22: Well, I think obviously airspace has to become open so

1286
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 22: that those options come on the table, and then obviously

1287
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 22: there's risk analysis to go through and prioritization and just

1288
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 22: making sure that the focus must be and has to

1289
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 22: be on looking after our people in the Middle East

1290
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 22: without a doubt.

1291
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 2: Problem was Whinston said the other day early on you said,

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Speaker 2: last time of the Twelve day War, you sent up

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Speaker 2: an aircraft and no one everyone was registered. But because

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Speaker 2: the wall stopped and life went back to normal and

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Speaker 2: no one got on it. And the other problem you

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Speaker 2: got this time, of course, is there are presumably thousands

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Speaker 2: of people in place like Dubai, and how many planes

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Speaker 2: do you need to see and what do you do

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Speaker 2: and how do you do? I mean, logistically it's a nightmare,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, And everyone has got a different risk threshold in

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Speaker 22: terms of you know, what they're willing to sort of tolerate.

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Speaker 22: And look, it's a bit strange by at the moment

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Speaker 22: the malls are still open. You know that the Crown

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Speaker 22: Prince was out and about on the streets yesterday, so

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Speaker 22: you know. But but the advice at the moment.

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Speaker 14: Stall was it just the one hotel? I mean the

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Speaker 14: images I saw was in the Palm, which is close

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Speaker 14: to you, I.

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Speaker 22: Think, yeah, yeah, from what I understand that was that

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Speaker 22: was one Burgon the f from what I understand, Yeah,

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Speaker 22: but the but the but but the you know, the

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Speaker 22: UE have been very good at having countermeasures put in place.

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Speaker 22: They seem have been really effective. The advice is to

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Speaker 22: still stay indoors and and keep yourself updated with that advice.

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Speaker 22: But yeah, I think that, you know, it's really important

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Speaker 22: that as a government we are very sensitive and across

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Speaker 22: what's happening to our people up in the Middle East,

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Speaker 22: in the region, and and everything's been done to make

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Speaker 22: sure that they are supported and also back home here

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Speaker 22: to make sure that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good answer, Jinny. Can you explain from a labor

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Speaker 2: point of view? Helen Clark, Chris Hipkins, et cetera. The

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Speaker 2: arguing of this this un charter esoteric kind of is

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Speaker 2: it legal thing you've got going? Do you think you're

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Speaker 2: in touch with the average New Zealander and arguing that

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Speaker 2: sort of ethereal line?

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Speaker 19: Do you mean international law?

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Speaker 6: Whine?

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Speaker 14: Is that what you're referring to, the fact the fact

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Speaker 14: that you don't invade other countries. I think most New

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Speaker 14: Zealanders don't want New Zealand to be invaded by other countries,

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Speaker 14: and that we respect a system where everybody respects it.

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Speaker 14: You don't want to be invaded, So international law matters

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Speaker 14: in no country is above it.

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Speaker 19: In New Zealand as always that.

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Speaker 2: It's time politique, isn't it? They are above it because

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Speaker 2: it's happening in front of our eyes right now, and

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Speaker 2: it happened when Russia walked into Ukraine.

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Speaker 19: Well yeah, you're dead right. It's the disintegration of what

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Speaker 19: we've known as kind of world order. But it is

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Speaker 19: possible to.

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Speaker 14: Condemn what's happening in Iran and that regime and still

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Speaker 14: be clear that military you know, like escalation that we've

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Speaker 14: seen is.

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Speaker 8: Not the answer.

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Speaker 2: But as condemning doing it isn't isn't. It's just yak,

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Speaker 2: yakita yak And that's the problem with the UN and

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Speaker 2: the world order. It's yakita yak and nothing happens.

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Speaker 14: Well, I think the problem is that you've got a

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Speaker 14: situation where it's just so uncertain, and so many New

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Speaker 14: Zealanders want to know what this means to their daily lives.

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Speaker 21: What does this mean to me?

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Speaker 2: The patrols going up and you can't fly through Dubai

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Speaker 2: at the moment, I mean, that's it, isn't it.

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Speaker 17: Will?

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Speaker 14: And there's a fact with a high uncertainty of what

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Speaker 14: might happen next, because in terms of having international law

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Speaker 14: that's kind of disintegrated under the last couple of I

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Speaker 14: guess years.

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Speaker 22: Well, this is what I These are my comments I found.

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Speaker 22: I had to sit in the house yesterday and listen

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Speaker 22: to Chrisitan Sanctimodius speech. And this is from a guy

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Speaker 22: who probably calls from medically gets a paper cut. And

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Speaker 22: the reality is this is that this regime has had

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Speaker 22: forty seven years of engaging in terrorism, suppressing and brutalizing

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Speaker 22: their own people.

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Speaker 20: They are responsible for.

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Speaker 22: Literally thousands and thousands of deaths. And this is very

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Speaker 22: personal for me because I spent time up in Iraq

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Speaker 22: embedded in training advising what's called the technical support units

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Speaker 22: like our AOS in New Zealand. And do you know

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Speaker 22: what most of our work was. It was dealing with

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Speaker 22: morality guest squad sponsored by Iranians who were targeting mainly

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Speaker 22: women and LGBTQ community. And if I can just give

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Speaker 22: you one very graphic example, I'm sorry, listeners, turn the

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Speaker 22: radio off now if you don't want to hear this,

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Speaker 22: but I went to well let me it's important, mind,

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Speaker 22: don't don't turn the radio off look I had as

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Speaker 22: part of my role. I'd gone to see new recruits

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Speaker 22: that were coming into the Iraqi Police. They had a

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Speaker 22: really challenging and difficult time of it, and and some

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Speaker 22: of them were young women that had real fire in

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Speaker 22: their belly, and they actually were giving an opportunity to

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Speaker 22: now do something for their country. If you fast forward

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Speaker 22: one of the groups I went to see one of

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Speaker 22: the young ladies, you really made an impression.

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Speaker 2: On me, Nadia.

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Speaker 22: If you fast forward three weeks from that point, and

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Speaker 22: we ran an operation against morality police who had picked

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Speaker 22: up three of these young police recruits, and we found

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Speaker 22: the tortured and contorted bodies with their faces shot off.

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Speaker 22: Those are the sort of people and the reason why

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Speaker 22: they're targeted because women shouldn't have jobs government jobs, or

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Speaker 22: have jobs and police or you know. And so just

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Speaker 22: make no mistake about who we're dealing with here, and

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Speaker 22: so we should be fully behind the fact that now

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Speaker 22: the Iranian people have got an opportunity to get a

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Speaker 22: government in place that gets them on a pathway to

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Speaker 22: the sort of freedoms that we have and that we enjoy.

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Speaker 2: And rebreak more in a moment. Mark Minchell Ginny Anderson

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Speaker 2: fifteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, carle it

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Speaker 1: Blay News.

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Speaker 2: Talks b nineteen past eight, Mark and Jinior with us

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Speaker 2: Jinny the Barbara Edmunds Interview Did you read It? With

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Speaker 2: Thomas Coggan on the Hero I did? Is she in

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Speaker 2: a hole? Are you in a hole because of it?

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Speaker 19: I don't think so. I think it's a bit of

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Speaker 19: a storm and the kep tea cup. To be honest,

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Speaker 19: this always happens when you have someone.

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Speaker 14: Like Nichola Willis wanting to divert attention away from the

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Speaker 14: state of the box and the fact that cost of

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Speaker 14: living's up, that they'll seize on things like this and

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Speaker 14: try and make them the other of them.

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Speaker 2: Well, the two bits I got out of it was

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Speaker 2: one she wasn't returning to surplus alarm Bell too. She

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Speaker 2: couldn't tell us how pay equity is going to be

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Speaker 2: covered off alarm Bell too.

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Speaker 23: Well.

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Speaker 14: The main one I got out of it was the

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Speaker 14: fact that the government cuts employment is one of the

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Speaker 14: figures from his banks, one of the measures, and given

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Speaker 14: the high level of unemployment, they removed it for politics sake.

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Speaker 14: And we don't think that's in the pal so we'll

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Speaker 14: take a look at it.

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Speaker 2: So when you take a look at it, the conservative

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Speaker 2: economists would argue that allows for more inflation to counteract

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Speaker 2: the employment. So you're happy with higher inflation.

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Speaker 14: Many other countries like New Zealand did head a dual

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Speaker 14: mandate and that meant that people's unemployment is also taken

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Speaker 14: into effector but this government doesn't seemed to care too

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Speaker 14: much about high levels of unemployment.

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Speaker 2: But the pay according is so sorry, Mark, I just

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Speaker 2: wanted the equity. Where's the twelve billion coming from? And

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Speaker 2: when are you going to explain that?

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Speaker 19: Well, we need to find out what that figure is,

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Speaker 19: because he's been.

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Speaker 2: The figure is, when do you explain it?

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Speaker 14: What we've committed to is reinstating that legislation and we

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Speaker 14: need to understand. But look, to be really frank and

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Speaker 14: to be honest, National took that money that was meant.

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Speaker 19: For newses and teachers as it was, and they blew it.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 2: You've got to you've got to come up with an

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Speaker 2: explanation as to where that money is coming from.

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Speaker 14: Well, that's going to take you because they took that

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Speaker 14: money and it went to property speculator and text cups

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Speaker 14: and tobacco companies.

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Speaker 19: But we need to take some time. The fucts that

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Speaker 19: it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 22: Overnight quickly, so Laver's really quickly might so Labor's dual

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01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 22: mandate for the Reserve Bank gave a seven point nine

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Speaker 22: percent inflation MESSI of inflation well above why and it's

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Speaker 22: you know in the other took and by the way,

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Speaker 22: on the pay equity stuff, yes, explain to us where

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Speaker 22: the money is coming from, because they cannot do that.

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Speaker 22: And the other thing too, and she talks about employment.

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Speaker 22: We got seven point nine percent inflation under Labor, and

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Speaker 22: we got, under their own projections, higher rates of employment

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Speaker 22: than what we're actually achieving. I've just been down in

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Speaker 22: christ You's down there there are three point nine percent unemployment,

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Speaker 22: Well they are though at three point nine percent. The

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Speaker 22: economy's humming down there. We just got to get the

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Speaker 22: rest of the country up and going.

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Speaker 2: We're away and that is why the election is going

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Speaker 2: to be so fascinating. Guys. I appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Jinny Anderson, Mark Mitchell A twenty.

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Speaker 1: Two The Hosking Breakfast with Rainthrow of a Sport, sv

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Speaker 2: Now let me tell you about John. Right, here's a builder.

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Speaker 2: John's a builder, good at what he does. Years on

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Speaker 2: the site, years around the tools, all of that sort

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Speaker 2: of thing, nail guns, machinery. So John's had us hearing tested.

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Speaker 2: Results are clear there is hearing loss, not subtle, it's measurable.

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Speaker 2: But John refuses to wear the hearing aids right So

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Speaker 2: at home he says everyone's mumbling. On site, he says,

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Speaker 2: just background noise, watching the tally, says the sounds rubbish,

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Speaker 2: same every time. It's not me. So the truth is

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Speaker 2: John knows, but for him it's a bit of a

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Speaker 2: prime thing. So hearing aids feel like admitting something's changed.

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Speaker 2: A lot of men have that stigma attached to it.

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Speaker 2: So here's the reality. Long term noise exposure from things

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Speaker 2: like tools can result from a workplace injury and hearing

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Speaker 2: loss effects not just to you, but those around you

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Speaker 2: as well. So a proper assessment can confirm whether the

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Speaker 2: work related noise has caused the damage and whether ACC

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Speaker 2: funding applies, and if it does, Resonate Health provides top

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Speaker 2: of the range hearing aids within the ACC funding bands,

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Speaker 2: with no surcharge, no paying thousands extra, just get the

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Speaker 2: good stuff. So if you're a bit like John, you

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Speaker 2: probably know it. You probably should do something about it.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred seven three seven sixty six two eight hundred

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Speaker 2: dot NZ. COSC alluded to Carl and JACKIEO earlier on

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Speaker 2: this morning. It's the biggest story in Australia this morning,

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Speaker 2: So Carlin Jackie Oh very successful in the FM on

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Speaker 2: the FM band in Australian radio. They are paid more

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Speaker 2: than anybody else by so far. It doesn't matter. There's

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Speaker 2: a story as to why they are two hundred million

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Speaker 2: dollars over ten years twenty million dollars ten million dollars apiece.

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Speaker 2: No one else even comes close. They're controversial, They've always

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Speaker 2: been controversial. Kyle said a week or so back, some

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Speaker 2: stuff on here. He probably shouldn't have said to his

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Speaker 2: co host. She was very upset by it, left and

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Speaker 2: hasn't come back. Yesterday. She quit. As a result of

1507
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: her quitting, they've torn up her one hundred million dollar contract.

1508
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: As a result of her quitting and tearing up the

1509
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar contract, Kyle has been sent away

1510
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: for two weeks to get us act together and if

1511
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: he comes back, that's fine. And if he doesn't come back,

1512
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: and most people think he won't, this show's over. It

1513
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: is the most expensive show in Australian media landscape. It's

1514
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 2: a publicly listed company. All hell might break loose on

1515
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: the share market around it today, but certainly what they

1516
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,839
Speaker 2: do next is of great interest to the media landscape.

1517
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: So it is probably, as the Sydney Morning Herald said

1518
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 2: this morning, the biggest media story in the history of

1519
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: Australian media. And no one knows more about the Australian

1520
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: media than Steve Price, and.

1521
01:13:58,439 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 7: He is next.

1522
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: Tough on power, sharp on insight, on my casting, Breakfast

1523
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate, altogether better across residential, commercial and

1524
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: rural news togs dead b.

1525
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: No I mentioned Kyle and Jackie are a moment ago

1526
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: just before the news. This is this is sort of

1527
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 2: what was going on that led to the buster.

1528
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 12: You're off with the fairies with this, I do not

1529
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 12: have to prove.

1530
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 16: Something.

1531
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: Listen to the program, You'll he help.

1532
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 2: Now that sort of goes on as I understand it

1533
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 2: regularly anyway, because it's a bit of what they would

1534
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 2: call back and forth. But this is this that took

1535
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 2: a turn, so she left, was coming back until she

1536
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: wasn't coming back and so she was sort of ghosting him.

1537
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 12: Yet to speak to Jackie. I've sent a message. What

1538
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 12: did you say? Just like, hey, sorry, if I've heard

1539
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 12: your feelings. Was quite a short message she did a

1540
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 12: few days later, just saying that she just needs to

1541
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 12: take your beat. But I haven't had any communication since.

1542
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 17: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

1543
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 17: for New Zealand business prices.

1544
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 2: This morning, mate, Well well, well eh, yeah, it's I

1545
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 2: was giving a little bit of background before the news.

1546
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 2: It's hard to overstate how big a deal this is

1547
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: from a business point of view, in the sense that

1548
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 2: a couple of hundred million dollars worth of contract in

1549
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 2: a publicly listed company in a breakfast show that's number

1550
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 2: one in FM and Sydney has died of death elsewhere

1551
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 2: around Australia. But nevertheless it's an important show. Maude knows

1552
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 2: what one they do now and what the business slash

1553
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 2: market reaction is today.

1554
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 20: Well, I think the company's probably going to be very

1555
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 20: happy that they can get out of a two hundred

1556
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 20: million dollar contractor whoever signed that contract should be ashamed

1557
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 20: of themselves. The company's got a new CEO, local Michael Stevenson.

1558
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 20: I think he's heard that, looked at that, seen Jackie's

1559
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 20: reaction and decided, Okay, this is our way out. So

1560
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 20: the board meets. The board says, right, Jackie, you come

1561
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 20: with us, we might give you another show. We'll renegotiate

1562
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 20: your money. Kyle, you're suspended. You've got two weeks to

1563
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 20: explain to us why your conduct doesn't mean that you've

1564
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 20: broken your contract. And the company saves themselves two hundred

1565
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 20: million dollars. That's the background to it. I mean they

1566
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 20: put this show into Melbourne at the beginning of last year.

1567
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 20: I called Kyle after about a month of doing it,

1568
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 20: a grubby buffoon, which is what he probably is. The

1569
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 20: content is homophobic, misogynistic and appalling. I can't even on

1570
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,799
Speaker 20: New Zealand radio at this time of the morning explain

1571
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 20: to you some of the things they do and say

1572
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 20: and talk about. So the country is probably better off

1573
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 20: without it in Melbourne, what did at rate five percent

1574
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 20: up against the am juggernaught on three outw where I

1575
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 20: used to run the joint rates twenty percent, So they

1576
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 20: couldn't justify the money and they've gone. I've had a

1577
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 20: relationship with that show on and off. I went on

1578
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 20: it last year as a surprise birthday gift to Kyle,

1579
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 20: which nearly had him fall off his chair. Why did

1580
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 20: I do it? I thought it might be a bit

1581
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 20: of fun, but some of the material they put to

1582
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:01,440
Speaker 20: where it was just disgraceful.

1583
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 2: What you can't argue with Melbourne correct But they are

1584
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 2: phenomenally have been phenomenally successful. They're the number one FM

1585
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 2: show in Sydney and there's money attached to all of that,

1586
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: and that backstory as to where they came from and

1587
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 2: the fact that they left a radio station, moved to

1588
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 2: a new radio station, took that audience with them very

1589
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 2: successfully and that doesn't happen very often. So it's said,

1590
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all it'll be written about, won't it.

1591
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: I mean this is a moment in media time.

1592
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 20: Yes, and then and really what she now sees All

1593
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 20: the big money contracts and big names are all gone.

1594
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 20: John Law's dead, Alan Jones waiting to go to court

1595
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 20: on charges, Ray Hadley retired, Neil Mitchell retired. I mean

1596
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 20: all of those people are on multimillion dollar salaries. I

1597
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 20: think it's probably an explanation point in free to wear

1598
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 20: broadcast media that the money in Australia at least is

1599
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 20: no longer there and companies he's got to realize that

1600
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 20: they can't pay these people that sort of figure.

1601
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 2: Does he bounce back, Kyle in some way, shape or

1602
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 2: for it? Will he be back somewhere else? I mean,

1603
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 2: he's not coming back to the station. They can give

1604
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: him two weeks after their blue in the face. He's

1605
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: not back, is he No?

1606
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 20: I mean the temptation by other networks would be to

1607
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 20: grab him, but I think he may have done himself

1608
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 20: in now and we shouldn't be crying crocodile tears for him.

1609
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 20: An amount of money he's and over the years he

1610
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 20: never has to work again in his life, I know.

1611
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 20: And he's happily married. He's got a young child, but

1612
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 20: who knows. I don't think anyone will grab him now.

1613
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 2: It's interesting. What does interest me? I don't want to

1614
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 2: bore the rest of the audience with us, but see

1615
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: we're on nationwide show and we're successful. And this is

1616
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: not blowing my own trumpet, but we're successful all over

1617
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 2: the country. Despite the fact that Auckland's different from Wellington,

1618
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: which is different from christ et cetera. The thing about

1619
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 2: Sydney being so clearly different to Melbourne is interesting, isn't it,

1620
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: Because of course you would argue that a great show

1621
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 2: is a great show and should be able to go anywhere.

1622
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 20: All the names I mentioned Alan Jones never worked in Melbourne,

1623
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 20: John Laws never worked in Melbourne, and Kyle and Jackie

1624
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 20: O haven't worked in Melbourne. I networked myself, here's you

1625
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 20: and i'd blowing our own trumpets. I was number one

1626
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 20: at a nighttime in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. So you

1627
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 20: can do it if you're clever like you and me.

1628
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 2: Basically glad you got there, but I was modestly prevented

1629
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: me from agreeing with you wholeheartedly. Now listen. The other

1630
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 2: thing I raised with one of our politicians just before

1631
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 2: eight thirty was there's business of people stuck in d

1632
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 2: buy etc. Given there are so many, if you decide

1633
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 2: to get them out, how do you do that?

1634
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 20: Well, the Prime Ministers keep saying he can't, he can't

1635
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 20: guarantee that he would send in a rescue mission to

1636
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 20: get them out, because, as you say, the numbers are huge.

1637
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 20: Federal govern estimates twenty four thousand Australians in limbo across

1638
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 20: the UA. Eleven thousand Australians transit through either the airline

1639
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:55,759
Speaker 20: Emirates Qatar or Eddie had that use those three airports

1640
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 20: in the Middle East every day, so it's an extraordinary

1641
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 20: number of people. Talked with the UA president last night.

1642
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 20: He's pushed for resumption of commercial flights because he knows

1643
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 20: he can't really get enough aircraft in there to get

1644
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 20: people out. Penny Wong, the Foreign Ministers, talked to her

1645
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 20: UAE counterpart. Wong was assured Australian travelers will be placed

1646
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 20: on flights as soon as safe and practable. But radio stations,

1647
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 20: newspapers keep talking to people who are just stranded there

1648
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 20: in hotels and it's probably impractical to put on rescue flights.

1649
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 20: I mean, air space is still closed at the state,

1650
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 20: So what you do about those people? And as you know,

1651
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 20: having been through there like I have, many times, you

1652
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 20: can't like in other parts. For you a stranded in Europe,

1653
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 20: you can't simply hire a car and drive away. I

1654
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 20: mean there's nowhere you can go. And so this is

1655
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 20: going to go for some time. But at some point

1656
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 20: I think the Germans and the English are talking about

1657
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 20: repat flights going into places like Cyprus. There may be

1658
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 20: an argument that you get a short haul flight to

1659
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 20: somewhere just outside the danger zone and then you could

1660
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 20: see and in a repat flight. I reckon that's what

1661
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 20: the solution will be in the end.

1662
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 2: Very interesting, How is it you are still offering tax

1663
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 2: breaks for evs. What's the matter with you?

1664
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 17: I know?

1665
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 20: And it's really blown up in the government's face because

1666
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 20: the amount of people accessing this has just gone berserk. Now,

1667
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 20: if you buy, or least through your company a high

1668
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 20: endv you get a tax break because you don't play

1669
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 20: fringe benefits tax. Now the numbers on this have just

1670
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 20: gone through the root. The government estimated the policy had

1671
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 20: cost about one point nine billion. Well it's blown out

1672
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 20: to five billion between twenty twenty two and twenty three

1673
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 20: and it looks like being even more expensive in the

1674
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 20: next financial year. No final decision has been made, but

1675
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 20: actsing the tax breaks or phasing them out is something

1676
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 20: that the Treasury are absolutely looking at. And we've got

1677
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 20: this crazy Energy Minister Chris Bowen, he ran around yesterday.

1678
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 20: Can you believe this because Australia only has thirty six

1679
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 20: days of fuel reserves in our country and that diesel

1680
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 20: and petrol, so that's five weeks and the rest of

1681
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 20: the fuel comes from Singapore and places like that. So

1682
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 20: we could get frozen out with fuel. So what as

1683
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 20: Bowen dow He goes, well, we should all go out

1684
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 20: and buy an EV then you won't have to worry

1685
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 20: about buying petrol. I mean, seriously, an idiot, and we

1686
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 20: had cues of petrol station yesterday with panic buying.

1687
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 21: By the way.

1688
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, mate, we'll see you next week. Appreciate it.

1689
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 2: Steep price out of Australia, The Barbara Edmunds interview, the

1690
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 2: two tiered approach of the Reserve Bank. Interesting piece out

1691
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 2: of Australia yesterday. More on that in the moment eight

1692
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 2: forty five the.

1693
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: Hike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. Howard By

1694
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 1: News Talks at b.

1695
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 2: Yes, the chief economist Sarah Hunter was out yesterday, the

1696
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: Reserve Bank chief economist Sarah Hunter in Australia. So this

1697
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 2: goes back to Barbara Edmunds. There's a scrap on today

1698
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 2: about what Barbara Edmond said to Thomas Coglan and the

1699
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 2: Herald of more concern to me was the fact she

1700
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 2: wasn't going to run a surplus and she has got

1701
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 2: no idea where the money for pay equities coming from.

1702
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: But they seem to have hooked into the idea that

1703
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 2: the dual mandate the Reserve Bank is a problem as well.

1704
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: So a dual mandate, which was what they were running

1705
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 2: up until the National Party fixed it, was you have

1706
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 2: to look at employment and you look at inflation. So

1707
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 2: we all know about inflation. You've got to keep it

1708
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 2: in the band and while at the same time, if

1709
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 2: you've got a dual mandate, you keep as many people

1710
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: in work as possible. So enter Sarah Hunting yesterday in Australia.

1711
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: They have a dual mandate. She was defending a dual mandate.

1712
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 2: She had apparently come up with a number that two

1713
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 2: hundred thousand more people would be out of work if

1714
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 2: it would more aggressively hike the interest rates. She's in

1715
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 2: Norway giving this speech. If the RB had pushed up

1716
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 2: interest rates as highre some other countries, then inflation would

1717
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: have eased more quickly before rising again in recent months.

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Speaker 2: So their dual mandate is they've got a whole inflation

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Speaker 2: between two and three while keeping quote unquote as many

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Speaker 2: people in work as possible. So the RB took the

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01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 2: cash rate from zero point one to four point three five.

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01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 2: Almost every other central bank took their cash rates higher,

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Speaker 2: including US. Of course we went to five to five.

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01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 2: So they had consciously decided not to push interest rates

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Speaker 2: as high. Thus their jobless rate would have started climbing

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01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 2: reaching they claim five point three percent. It has not done,

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Speaker 2: so it's in the low fours. Ours is five point

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Speaker 2: three percent, facts five point four percent. THEIRS remained in

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Speaker 2: the low fource. Hence they claim there would have been

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety thousand more people unemployed if they

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01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,799
Speaker 2: hadn't followed their dual mandate. So on that, Barbara Edmonds

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Speaker 2: will go, I told you so ten to nine.

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Speaker 1: So Mike Costing breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news dogs,

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Speaker 1: there'd be Now.

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Speaker 2: Not only can a retirement village of for security and

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01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: social benefits, it can, of course create deeper and lasting

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01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 2: connections to great Story residents Mari and Bob Bob Graham.

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01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,799
Speaker 2: They met and fell in love at our Veda Peninsular Club,

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01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 2: the retirement community of course in Stamil Bay in Auckland

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01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 2: and what started as a simple hello as they passed

1741
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 2: each other on the old bowl and Green turned into

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01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 2: something much more for the pair. So that's lovely, isn't it.

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01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 2: There stories proof that connection, companionship, and romance ca handbloom

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01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 2: at any stage of life. So they've been married for

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01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 2: eleven years now are they're both still very active in

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01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 2: their village. They're still involved in that bowls and the

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01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: singing group as well. Beautiful reminder that retirement isn't about

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01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 2: slowing down. It is about living well and staying open

1749
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 2: and embracing what comes next. Now they've written an article

1750
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 2: about all of this that you want to read. Love

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01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 2: Blossomed in a retirement Village. Now you can read Mari

1752
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: and Bob's story at our Vida dot co dot nz

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01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 2: ford slash news. You got that are veda dot co

1754
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 2: dot nz ford slash news. Asking the US Consulate in Dubai,

1755
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 2: a bit of it is on fire, they say a drone.

1756
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a drone, drone or just

1757
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 2: they shot down a drone and a bit of the

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01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 2: drone fell on the building and the fire like the

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01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: Fairmont the other day. But that's the latest, Mike, are

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01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 2: you're able to answer this for any possibly naive perception

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01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 2: or my naive possible ball perception. Under MMP, does the

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01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 2: majority voted party once the result is known, need to

1763
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 2: actually go with a coalition partner or can they govern

1764
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 2: a loan game cross party centim it feel it's an

1765
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:04,719
Speaker 2: interesting question after thirty years of MMP, but the answer

1766
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 2: is yes they can. It's called a minority government. And

1767
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 2: if you're I don't know, two or three short, two

1768
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 2: a three votes short and you go, tell you what

1769
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 2: I'll do, you can reach what's called a confidence and

1770
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: supply deal with somebody. So in other words, you can go.

1771
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 2: You can take an individual vote on any given matter,

1772
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 2: but on confidence and supply, I either money to run

1773
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: the country, you must vote with us, and you can

1774
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 2: sign one of those and we've had those before, or

1775
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 2: you can rely be a true minority government literally on

1776
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 2: every piece of legislation. Round up some numbers. In other words,

1777
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 2: here's what we're doing on crime, here's what we're doing

1778
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 2: on welfare, here's what we're doing on transport. Anyone with us,

1779
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 2: and if you've got to a three vote to get

1780
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 2: you across the line, you can be a minority government.

1781
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: Who can still run the country. And there's plenty of

1782
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:45,719
Speaker 2: bo's around the world.

1783
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 16: But the most fun thing to do is to wait

1784
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 16: for weeks and weeks and weeks to hear what wants Peter.

1785
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the negotiations, that's the core for I mean, that's

1786
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 2: the sport of it all, isn't it? Five minutes away

1787
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: from them?

1788
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

1789
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 2: Called Will Kane, I'm not a mess of fan anyways,

1790
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 2: talking to General Jack Kane. Jack Kane's a regular on Fox.

1791
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: Trump loves him. Will's got himself in a bit of

1792
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 2: bull So he's trying to ask in a roundabout why

1793
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 2: without annoying Trump or the nitwork, because Fox are very

1794
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: pro Trump. Obviously, why this whole thing started.

1795
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 23: It's not one clear to me, General, And that's not

1796
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 23: to suggest that I don't support what is happening, nor

1797
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 23: did I offer my support. I just think I want

1798
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 23: to ask a couple of critical questions, and I hope

1799
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 23: you know how much respect I have for your service.

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01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 23: And I think it goes without saying to anybody watching

1801
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,759
Speaker 23: how much respect I have for the men making his decisions.

1802
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 20: You don't have to patronize me.

1803
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 2: Just ask the question, Go ahead, come on, ask it.

1804
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 23: To be clear, general, I'm not patronizing you. I'm trying

1805
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 23: to have a very serious conversation in front of the

1806
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 23: American people. The men making these decisions have my utmost respected.

1807
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 23: This is less about you and everybody making these decisions,

1808
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 23: and this is about the American people.

1809
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 2: See why I don't like him. He's like, he's a

1810
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 2: mediamouth loser. He's the weakest link on Fox. I don't

1811
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 2: know what they thought they were going to get out

1812
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 2: when he's relatively new to and I don't know why

1813
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 2: they anyway. Did he get his question out? Do we

1814
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 2: get an answer? Does anybody know? Anyway? The point was

1815
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 2: the Internet, as does the Internet's want these days went

1816
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,600
Speaker 2: absolutely nuts. Now obviously tomorrow on the program ahead of

1817
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,600
Speaker 2: the Roosters opening for the season for the Warriors on

1818
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 2: Friday night, we need to work out just how much

1819
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 2: this is our year as if there's any doubt. So

1820
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 2: Andrew Webster will return to the program to give us

1821
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 2: the insight the off season word, the vibe, the buzz,

1822
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 2: the action, the call bits, all the stuff. You're not

1823
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 2: here anywhere else, So Andrew Webster on the program after right,

1824
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 2: look forward to the catch up ahead of the new season.

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Speaker 2: Until then, as always, Happy Days.

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01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,880
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