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Speaker 2: Dad been working, David Selaw and his treaty Principle's idea,

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Speaker 2: Scott Robertson and Desiri's challenge. We look at the states

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Speaker 2: it is seven past six, Welcome to you Friday. Our

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Speaker 2: old friend Adrian Ors decided Trump will be slightly inflationary

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Speaker 2: he announced yesterday, and that peak trade globally he speaks of,

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Speaker 2: is over. And I think on both counts he's probably right.

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Speaker 2: He's not right. He wasn't right this week on the

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Speaker 2: he talked in his fiscal risk report this week that

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Speaker 2: more jobs will lead to more mortgage defaults on housing.

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Speaker 2: If we've learned one thing out of this whole mad

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Speaker 2: with housing is something out of the box. It's obsessive.

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Speaker 2: If we don't believe it's a right to own a house,

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Speaker 2: it's certainly on the old to do list, and we

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Speaker 2: the mortgage cliff never happened. All the doom and misery

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Speaker 2: to keep aside for things that so far haven't happened,

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Speaker 2: mood has or is changing. People don't want to be

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Speaker 2: my gut tells me, is now turning. Even Adrian saw

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Speaker 2: Out and analysis rolls into an American Thursday, Biden hit

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Speaker 2: the Rose Garden. More on that shortly. But while that

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Speaker 3: I want to make sure now that we know who

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Speaker 3: the real players are, the people who will actually deliver

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Speaker 2: This blog is the former chair of the GPA. He

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Speaker 4: There's no difference than Donald Trump one point zero versus

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Speaker 2: He's right. Internationally, the head of NATO makes a decent point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you can see that they'll be thinking

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Speaker 8: Both the Officer Budget Responsibility and indeed the Bank of

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Speaker 2: look from Joy, my wife Andrew Callahoo, Good morning, very

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Speaker 2: good morning, Mike. How did the markets candle the tilting

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Speaker 9: What a week. Isn't that fascinating? It's fantastic.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, global markets have had a chance to digest all.

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Speaker 11: Powell absolutely now all though eyes turned to the Fed,

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Speaker 11: Look, there's a real air of uncertain to hear Mike

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Speaker 9: You just sort of run through them. Inflation. Does the

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Speaker 11: How does the Central Bank over their factor and listen

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Speaker 11: the Trump's been elected on taking a pretty tough stance

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Speaker 9: If he follows through so many many questions?

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Speaker 11: Common sense suggests that the stage the Fed will not

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Speaker 9: what are the numbers.

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Speaker 2: Mike, I think you may have underestimated the amount of

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Speaker 12: Listen, Defeat does not mean we are defeated.

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Speaker 9: We lost this battle.

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Speaker 12: America of your dreams is calming for you to get

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Speaker 2: Round, that's when he's at his best, and he's certainly

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Speaker 10: Over the years, bright lights and the sky have been

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mike, can you please explain why Mari are

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Speaker 2: a medical insight. Three decades worth of a Tigo University

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Speaker 2: med School enrollment DART has been analyzed put into a

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Speaker 2: new report. The schemes aimed at boosting underrepresented communities, they've

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Speaker 2: From the University Medical Emirritors, Professor Dais Gorman is, well,

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Speaker 2: this is very good morning to you.

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Speaker 6: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon it's worked in any way, shape or

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Speaker 13: Well, it certainly worked in terms of increasing a number

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Speaker 13: I didn't know that it was in place then, but

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Speaker 2: So the idea is, and this is the part I've

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Speaker 13: The idea was I think that I said, if you're Mari,

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Speaker 2: Well, that's true, and we know that from these statistics,

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Speaker 2: Are any of these things a problem and do they

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Speaker 14: Well.

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Speaker 13: Look, I think NEWSLD is like the idea of a meritocracy,

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Speaker 13: And I can tell you now that some of the

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Speaker 13: Oh look, I don't think any of you contributes much

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Speaker 13: you've got a bunch of overachieving kids fill ducts and

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Speaker 13: I mean you tell on it. Some of those places

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Speaker 6: You will?

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Speaker 13: You justify it on the base of that you're improving

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Speaker 13: how can you claim it?

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Speaker 2: It's interesting? Good on you, mate, you go well appreciate it,

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Speaker 2: my own personal experience, I mean, I've had a number

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Speaker 2: That's the point we haven't heard from Putin post Trump

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Speaker 2: until now.

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Speaker 15: Russia does not see Western civilization as an enemy. Sure,

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Speaker 15: we don't want to Michuchi to voice or educate our ideas,

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Speaker 15: vost our ideas on people, or educate people. And it

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Speaker 15: will be interesting to know whether in Western capitals they

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Speaker 15: actually understand how to acknowledge this irreversible fact.

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Speaker 2: Are going to be interesting to see where the relationship

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Speaker 2: goes at which point. By the way, watching that was

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Speaker 2: also Silensky, Well, hold on, I've got something to say.

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Speaker 16: Some of leaders have been hugging him for twenty years

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Speaker 16: and things are only getting worse. He thinks only about

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Speaker 16: worse and will not change. Only pressure can put limits

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Speaker 16: on him.

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Speaker 2: So that's Lensky. So there's a lot to play for

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Speaker 2: our workI through later on this morning the things he

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Speaker 2: promised Trump, This is the things he promised he would do.

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Speaker 2: And we'll also get to the bottom of the legal

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Speaker 2: issues as well. Richard Arnold by next eighteen to two.

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Speaker 2: Mike, there are currently four hundred of our best students

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Speaker 2: being forced to do medical school in Australia. Very few

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Speaker 2: of these will come back there and lost for good.

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Speaker 2: I tend to agree that goes back to mccomie the

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Speaker 2: moment ago about producing more than wy Katto hopefully is

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Speaker 2: going to help.

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Speaker 17: Mike.

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Speaker 2: That's just a load of crap. If you need a

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Speaker 2: heart surgeon, you need a heart surgeon. If you want

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Speaker 2: a snapshot of life framed and drippy, unrealistic sentiment, you

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Speaker 18: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 2: Richard Land flat Side morning to you. You want to

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Speaker 2: make Biden very eloquent in the Rose Garden. Where do

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Speaker 2: we go to?

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Speaker 19: Oh I don't know how I lookquid he was, But yeah,

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Speaker 19: he made his first statement after this blowout by Trump

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Speaker 19: recapturing the White House, regaining control of the US Senate,

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Speaker 19: and while it will be days before the Italian House

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Speaker 19: seats is known, it is quite likely that Republicans will

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Speaker 19: have control there as well. There are still sety five

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Speaker 19: undersided House seats. Republicans need just ten of these to

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Speaker 19: hold on to control of the House of Reps. So

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Speaker 19: prepping to return to the White House, President elect Trump

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Speaker 19: is stronger than he has been before. Pole suggested the

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Speaker 19: closest race of modern times didn't turn out that way.

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Speaker 19: Trump also has shaped a new coalition, winning significant support

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Speaker 19: from blue collar workers, including many Latino men. So now

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Speaker 19: President Biden has given his reaction, speaking a short time back,

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Speaker 19: as you say, and promising something we had never heard

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Speaker 19: from Trump.

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Speaker 12: We'll have a peaceful transfer of power here in America.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he says.

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Speaker 20: Yes.

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Speaker 19: Team already is working with Trump on the transition. Surveys

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Speaker 19: suggest the economy was leading concern. Biden says, we leave behind.

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Speaker 12: The strongest economy in the world. I know people are

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Speaker 12: still hurting, but things are changing rapidly.

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Speaker 19: Well, Kamala Harris made that argument, but many weren't filling it.

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Speaker 19: If you are from Gen X in the white working

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Speaker 19: class here, you were doing way better than a millennial,

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Speaker 19: about six percent better by age thirty. This is not

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Speaker 19: the much vaunted American dream. While people at the top

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Speaker 19: have been making more, some working class kids are earning

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Speaker 19: less and the wage gap is growing. If you go

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Speaker 19: back to baby boomers, compared to millennials, two thirds owned

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Speaker 19: a home by age thirty five, while just forty nine

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Speaker 19: percent of millennials did. Millennials so we're talking here from

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Speaker 19: the nineteen eighties born to the mid nineties have on

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Speaker 19: average thirty percent less wealth. So Wall Street celebrates and

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Speaker 19: the world's ten richest people just got a We hear

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Speaker 19: record sixty four billion US wealthier from Trump's reelection, and

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Speaker 19: you know those folks need a break, right, But it

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Speaker 19: doesn't trickle down much, and Democrats were unable to reassure

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Speaker 19: many blue collar voters. While Trump's new golden boy, Elon Musk,

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Speaker 19: says there will be quote temporary hardships if he does

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Speaker 19: to the country what he did to twitter. Trump tariffs

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Speaker 19: also could spike inflation. Another big election issue was immigration,

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Speaker 19: and Democrats were late to the game and dealing with

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Speaker 19: the legal immigration world. Trump changed from build a wall

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Speaker 19: to mass deportations of mostly brown people. Trump has said

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Speaker 19: he will invoke something called the Alien Enemies Act they

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Speaker 19: rarely use law from seventeen ninety eight to carry out

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Speaker 19: his mass deportation plan. There are more than eleven million

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Speaker 19: undocumented migrants in this country, about eighty percent have been

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Speaker 19: the jobs in the farm workers and restaurant industries and construction.

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Speaker 19: Their removal would affect the economy significantly, it seems. Trump's

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Speaker 19: former immigration enforcement boss Tom Homan says there might be

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Speaker 19: a million deportations a year. People, he says will not

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Speaker 19: be put in concentration camps. That is nonsense, but there

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Speaker 19: will be large scale raids. This whole thing will be costly, maybe,

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Speaker 19: according to one assessment, eighty eight billion dollars US. That's

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Speaker 19: one estimate. There are currently six thousand border enforcement agents.

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Speaker 19: Biden's former border control boss Jason Howser says they might

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Speaker 19: need one hundred thousand as to who is deported. Trump's

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Speaker 19: man Tom Homan says this could lead to the removal

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Speaker 19: of parents and grandparents, while children might be allowed to stay.

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Speaker 6: The parent absolutely and to the country illegally had a

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Speaker 21: He was in the country illegally, so he created that crisis.

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Speaker 19: So what's the call on this. Julie Moreno with a

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Speaker 19: US citizen who's been married for seven years to our

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Speaker 19: Mexican fellow here illegally, but who runs the business and

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Speaker 19: pays taxes. If her husband is deported, she could move

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Speaker 19: back to Mexico. Actually he's never lived there, and their

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Speaker 19: business would dissolve. So how will people react when they

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Speaker 19: see all this in real life?

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Speaker 2: Lots on and filve You have a good weekend, Richard

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Speaker 2: Arms stateside by way of ratings, who watched in America?

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Speaker 2: Fox won it and won it well? They had an

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Speaker 2: average of ten bit over ten million viewers at any

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Speaker 2: given moment, a second consecutive cycle that they've won that. MSNBC,

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Speaker 2: which is interesting, came second with six million on average

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Speaker 2: over the time. It's a long average, so therefore the

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Speaker 2: numbers tend to drop a little bit. That's the first

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Speaker 2: time they beat CNN CNN has a world of trouble.

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Speaker 2: If you follow the media in America, see and n

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Speaker 2: just can't seem to dig themselves out of the hole there.

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Speaker 2: And anyway, CNN came in with five point one as

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Speaker 2: far as the local networks were concerned, ABC fire point nine,

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Speaker 2: NBC fire point five, CBS three point six. If you

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Speaker 2: add all those together, that's an average of thirty five

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Speaker 2: million people watching. Is that a lot? Not really, because

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Speaker 2: there's over three hundred million Americans ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: Call the mic Costing Breakfast with our Vida, retirement, communities, news,

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Speaker 1: togs head been and really.

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Speaker 2: Broad terms, Trump's legal problems are going to go away,

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Speaker 2: so let's work your way through him. He's got civil

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Speaker 2: fines and civil cases, about half a billion dollars worth

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Speaker 2: of civil finds. He can't escape those. You may well

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Speaker 2: appeal them and it may well get tied up and

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Speaker 2: court for years, but he can't get rid of them

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Speaker 2: or not pay them just because he's become president. The

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Speaker 2: New York case, the hush money case, this is one merchant.

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Speaker 2: He's due to sentence this month. Sometime. He's not going

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Speaker 2: he's going to get fined, and that'll be another fine

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Speaker 2: that he's probably going to pay.

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Speaker 17: Jan.

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Speaker 2: Six This is where it gets really interesting, was driven

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Speaker 2: trade me looking for work, and if he's not, he

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Speaker 2: should be. So that's essentially the discussions have already started

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Speaker 2: to make those cases go away. So that's the Jan.

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Speaker 2: Sixth case, the classified documents case that was the business

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Speaker 2: so that's another thing that we'll need to see the

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Speaker 2: light of day. And then the big one is the

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Speaker 2: Georgia case. Georgia case is bogged down mainly because of Willis,

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Speaker 2: rather DA not ag DA, because she was involved with

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Speaker 2: to pay the fines in some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 2: The big stuff forget it. Five minutes away from.

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Speaker 2: Go to Median News with a new Zealand connection. Warner

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Speaker 2: Brothers Discovery who were here. Of course, revenue decreased. They've

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Speaker 2: announced overnight internationally that decreased four percent to sixteen billion.

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Speaker 2: Total adjusted earning before ebbitt DAAL was down nineteen percent

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Speaker 2: to four billion. Despite those numbers, their total profit for

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Speaker 2: Q three last year, so that's an improvement. They made

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Speaker 2: some cuts. The other big part was streaming service and

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Speaker 2: that's Max. Now Max isn't going to be here because

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Speaker 2: they did a deal with Sky. They grew by seven

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Speaker 2: point two million subscribers in Q three. They've now got

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ten million subscribers around the world, so

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Speaker 2: that's been launched internationally. Their streaming revenue was up three

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Speaker 2: percent to eight point three billion, So how does that

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Speaker 2: compare well, Netflix, they're still the king of the pile

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Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty two million subscribers around the world.

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Speaker 2: They got another five million in Q three alone, Peacock

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Speaker 2: three million. That's at thirty six. They added three million

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Speaker 2: to thirty six million subscribers. Disney up one percent to

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighteen. Yard would have thought they'd be

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Speaker 2: Disney Hulu up a couple of percent to fifty one million.

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Speaker 2: The up numbers everyone's gaining, which seems like a good thing.

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Speaker 2: People want more streaming services. Only service to lose people

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Speaker 2: With Paramount they drop two point eight million down to

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Speaker 2: But if you've missed it and it's not that important,

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Speaker 2: doesn't really matter. The reason we don't have Max here

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Speaker 2: because Warner Brothers Discovery. If I can be reasonably blunt

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Speaker 2: about it, I don't think they're that interested in being

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Speaker 2: And it will be interesting to see how all that

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Speaker 2: plays out. David Seymour, where does this go off to

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Speaker 2: Select Committee? In debt? What's the point of that he's.

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Speaker 1: Next setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover, the la

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Speaker 1: designed to intrigue and use togs headb.

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Speaker 2: Well seven past seven. The Triety Principles Bill arrived at

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Speaker 2: Parliament yesterday, debated next week, then sent off to Select committee.

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Speaker 2: Nothing the government has done has created more ranks than this.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the act Party leaders behind it. David Seymore's

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Speaker 2: with us good morning, good morning mate. Is what we've

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Speaker 2: seen so far. Your inability to explain it clearly, or

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Speaker 2: they just don't like it, and that's that.

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Speaker 17: Oh, I think it's very clear that more and more

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Speaker 17: people see this is an initiative that promotes equal rights.

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Speaker 17: In fact, if this country is about anything, it is

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Speaker 17: about the idea that no matter who you are or

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Speaker 17: where you're from, you get a fear go at life.

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Speaker 17: And the people that don't like it are simultaneously saying

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Speaker 17: that the debate is going nowhere, but also that it

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Speaker 17: must be stopped before it goes in. And that's because

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Speaker 17: ultimately we are democratizing the treaty. We're saying anyone can

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Speaker 17: have a say on our constitutional future. You won't be

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Speaker 17: shouted down because you're not an expert, or the you're

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Speaker 17: wrong kind of person, or you're racist or anything like that.

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Speaker 17: What we're seeing as people don't really know how to

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Speaker 17: respond to the Treaty being democratized.

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Speaker 2: What I don't understand, and I think most people listening

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Speaker 2: to this would be on your side broadly speaking, having

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Speaker 2: read what you put forward yesterday wasn't dramatically different from

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Speaker 2: what you put forward in the first place. And I

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Speaker 2: think most of us understand that. You know, if we

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Speaker 2: can all be equal, that would be fantastic, and the

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Speaker 2: courts are interventionist and that's a problem. Here's the difficulty

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Speaker 2: you face. How is it you couldn't get National across

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Speaker 2: the line on this? Why is it dead? Essentially?

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Speaker 17: I think the National Party are afraid of taking on

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Speaker 17: hard issues. That's why I never joined the National Party.

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Speaker 17: That's why I believe we need act. It is difficult

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Speaker 17: because over the last forty eight years since the Treaty

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Speaker 17: of White Tonguy Acts was passed, the courts, the White

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Speaker 17: Angu Tribunal and so on have built up this idea

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Speaker 17: that the Treaty is a partnership and therefore everything in

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Speaker 17: New Zealand becomes about your identity in which side of

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Speaker 17: the partnership you're on. How do you govern three waders?

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Speaker 17: As there a separate Maori Health authority? Is there going

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Speaker 17: to be different consultation rights under the Resource Management Act?

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Speaker 20: Now?

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Speaker 17: I think the National Party would say, oh, that we

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Speaker 17: got rid of all those things. My point is that

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Speaker 17: until we remove the underlying idea that our treaty is

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Speaker 17: a partnership between races and we each have a different

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Speaker 17: role in our society based on our background, those policies

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Speaker 17: will all be back in the stroke of the pen.

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Speaker 17: This is about a big, and I admit difficult debate

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Speaker 17: about whether our treaty gives us equal rights or a

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Speaker 17: role in a partnership where we're defined by identity. That's

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Speaker 17: the kind of thing that actors herefore other parties often aren't.

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Speaker 2: Would you accept that as it stands right now here

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Speaker 2: this morning, it's dead post the first reading.

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Speaker 17: No, Because the other thing I know about other parties

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Speaker 17: is that are very responsive to public opinion, and they

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Speaker 17: may see that this debate is far more worthwhile and

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Speaker 17: far more constructive than anything that they've seen before. And

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Speaker 17: I say that Chris lux and every now and then,

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Speaker 17: look You're always welcome to get back aboard the wagon

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Speaker 17: if you'd like to, so that may happen. I also

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Speaker 17: just make the point. But if I'm completely wrong and

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Speaker 17: that never gets past the first reading, all that happens

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Speaker 17: is that we produce the idea that each New Zealander

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Speaker 17: has the right to have a say about their constitutional future.

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Speaker 17: And it's an equal rate. It's not something that is

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Speaker 17: the preserve of the courts, the White angu Tribune, all

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Speaker 17: the academics, the media, of the bureaucracy. Then we've actually

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Speaker 17: achieved something. And in the past you look at euthanasia

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Speaker 17: for example, the first bill was put up in nineteen

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Speaker 17: ninety five, got shot down in flames. No one thought

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Speaker 17: it would ever go anywhere. Twenty five, four years later

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Speaker 17: it became a loss. So you know, even if this

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Speaker 17: bill doesn't go all the way, the fact that people

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Speaker 17: are so opposed to it, even just having the discussion

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Speaker 17: tells you we need to have that discuss.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing that worries me most of the people

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Speaker 2: that they won't even talk about having said that. When

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Speaker 2: you say what you just said, is it dead in

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Speaker 2: the sense that I see you running this in twenty

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Speaker 2: six Surely this is what this is about. Ultimately, well,

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Speaker 2: we'll see.

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Speaker 17: Where this debate gets to. But one thing that we

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Speaker 17: certainly won't be giving up on is the idea that

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Speaker 17: each New Zealander is born free and equal, with the

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Speaker 17: same basic respect and dignity due to them. The idea

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Speaker 17: that some people get to say we're in partnership with

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Speaker 17: the crown, or where tongue to Fenela and your tongue

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Speaker 17: to Tavs. You know, my ultimate challenge to people who

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Speaker 17: oppose this bill is how is this world that you

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Speaker 17: want supposed to work? And where in the world has

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Speaker 17: dividing people up by their background being a success for

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Speaker 17: any society anywhere. You know, in many ways, I'd much

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Speaker 17: rather not be having this debate and talk about regulation

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Speaker 17: and education and balancing the budget and how to make

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Speaker 17: healthcare work with an aging population. Love to talk about

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Speaker 17: all that, but I put it to people that it's

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Speaker 17: going to be all the harder to overcome those challenges

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Speaker 17: when our underlying constitutional setting is that we have a

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Speaker 17: different role in society based on things that happen two

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Speaker 17: hundred years before the even born.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your time, David Seymore. The Act Party lead

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Speaker 2: to twelve minutes past seven, passing Sea more spot on

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Speaker 2: regarding National wanting to tackle anything Maori, Mike, where do

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Speaker 2: we go to find the Treaty Principles as they stand now?

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Speaker 2: Late and they're everywhere? Go go wherever you get your

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Speaker 2: news from. Go jump on the Herald. I've got it

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Speaker 2: in front of me. It's take you forty five to

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Speaker 2: a minute to read Principal one, Principal two, Principal three.

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Speaker 2: It's simple to understand, Mike. National need to let the

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Speaker 2: people have a say and get a referendum going. No,

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Speaker 2: they don't. They can do whatever they like. Generally you

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Speaker 2: can have your say in an election, and whether or

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Speaker 2: not it becomes an election issue will be interesting to see, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Collectorald Seemore in the ACT Party you're on to a

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Speaker 2: winner introducing the Treaty Principles Bill. Many loyal National supporters

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Speaker 2: will give their vote at the next election to Act. Bob.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that you're right, I said yesterday. I

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Speaker 2: suspect you're right. But there was a lot of noise

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Speaker 2: around ACT last time about how good they were going

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Speaker 2: to do and how big they were and how well

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Speaker 2: they had campaigned, and yet their result on the night

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Speaker 2: was not that flash, I like in our conversation with

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Speaker 2: Mari in this country to what happened in America in

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Speaker 2: the last couple of days, and the left labor, the

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Speaker 2: Mari Party in general, certainly the Greens treat Marie as

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Speaker 2: a group. They're all the same. If you're Maori, you're Maori.

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Speaker 2: It's not possible for you to be anything other than Maray.

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Speaker 2: You're not individual, you're not different. You're not getting on

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Speaker 2: with life, you probably don't have a job. You're aggrieved,

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Speaker 2: you're angry, you're miserable. God forbid. You're actually just like

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Speaker 2: everybody else. And that probably is to the detriment of

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Speaker 2: us all but I suspect to the detriment of national

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Speaker 2: because I think there's a mood in this country around

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Speaker 2: this issue broadly that will benefit ACT well if they

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Speaker 2: prosecute it as they are currently doing. Fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: A't be News Talks, it be Scott Robertson out of

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Speaker 2: Ireland for you in about fifteen minutes time. Sixteen past seven.

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Speaker 2: A lot of what next at the moment around the

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Speaker 2: New Truck presidency. Of course, corporates here with US links

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Speaker 2: have a lot to try and work out. Main Freight

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Speaker 2: Managing director Don Braid to give us an insight, Don

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Speaker 2: morning to you in morning monk the broad stuff. First,

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Speaker 2: how big is your operation in the US?

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Speaker 22: Oh, we got nineteen hundred and fifty two people across

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Speaker 22: SADI branches will go close to nine hundred million US

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Speaker 22: and revenue this year, So you've.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot of to day. Do you see things

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Speaker 2: fundamentally changing or not?

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Speaker 23: Then the short term, we're already seeing front loading by

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Speaker 23: customers around the world wanting to fill our warehouses with

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Speaker 23: product before supposed tariffs will be a plot. In the

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Speaker 23: long term, who knows, you know, we'll ride the wave.

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Speaker 23: If we get a stronger US economy that would be

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Speaker 23: good for the business within America for US. If tariffs

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Speaker 23: are on China product, then we might see less product

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Speaker 23: moving from China to America, but we'll be there and

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Speaker 23: wanting to take part.

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Speaker 2: So your yours is an individual story. Because of course

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Speaker 2: we're coming at this from the New Zealand side of

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Speaker 2: the equation, so you would deal with Chinese product. The

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Speaker 2: argument is tariffs are about China, not about New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's fair?

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Speaker 20: Yeah?

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Speaker 23: I do, although you know, all the rhetoric is that

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Speaker 23: he's going to apply tariffs to all imports, which you

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Speaker 23: know we've also got Europe to concern ourselves with as well, and.

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Speaker 22: Then does you retaliate with tariffs.

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Speaker 23: Of their own? So that becomes a bit of a

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Speaker 23: bidding war. But for us, if you've got a stronger economy,

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Speaker 23: then you were likely to get more importance as a consequence.

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Speaker 2: Well, you make a very good point. I mean we

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Speaker 2: already have a world of tariffs for goodness sake. I mean,

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Speaker 2: look at the Brandy and the cows, and the evs

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Speaker 2: and the China and the EU. At the moment, can

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Speaker 2: you manage tariffs and simply get on with life? They

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Speaker 2: are what they are?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 23: And you know, maybe they become an inflationary product for

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Speaker 23: the American economy, but you know, people still want to

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Speaker 23: buy product is not necessary, not all product that they

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Speaker 23: consume as manufactured in America. So if tariffs are applied,

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Speaker 23: they'll apply the pricing cress.

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Speaker 2: And from our point of view, how many products do

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Speaker 2: you think could stand the tariff and still do well? See,

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Speaker 2: I think of top end wine, the very best cut

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Speaker 2: of beef. New York. People on the Upper East Side

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Speaker 2: will pay anything in a tariff doesn't make any difference,

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Speaker 2: or am I being delusional?

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Speaker 23: I think you're right, Although it's interesting. We do do

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Speaker 23: a lot of beverage and it's beverage that's pre low

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Speaker 23: those warehouses right now, so clearly they want that product

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Speaker 23: in the market well before. If there's the tariff to

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Speaker 23: be a plot.

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Speaker 2: Give us the Dawn Braid view of the world right now.

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Speaker 2: How messy is it?

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Speaker 6: Ah?

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Speaker 23: Yes, messy as economic recessions, but said it's still exciting

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Speaker 23: and we still didn't business and we've got up this

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Speaker 23: morning and they had an expresso.

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Speaker 2: Still fun. You can't argue with that. I like you're

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Speaker 2: inside Don Braid, the main freight managing director. Yes, as

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Speaker 2: I say, raiser for you from Ireland. We'll do the

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Speaker 2: week with Tim and Katie after eight Mike, why can't

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Speaker 2: those who identify as Murray also celebrate their Irish kuption?

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say. In treating as the

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Speaker 2: Democrats did, blacks as blacks, Spanish as Spanish, Latinos as Latinos,

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Speaker 2: you miss the point. You don't talk to people as

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Speaker 2: a block. Demography does not lead to democracy, as Kelly

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Speaker 2: and Conway so eloquently put it on election night, and

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Speaker 2: I think many, including Labor, the Greens and the Murray

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Speaker 2: Party are making the same mistake in this country with Murray.

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Speaker 2: Let's mark the week in a moment. Seven twenty.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio pow

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Speaker 2: Me little tipple for the weekend. I talked earlier about

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Speaker 2: the Central Otago one MacArthur Ridge. This is their southern

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Speaker 2: famed Southern Tour twenty two. So MacArthur Ridge is Alexandra location.

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Speaker 2: It's more than an ounce drive from your typical wine

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Speaker 2: growing parts of Central Otago anyway, makes it New Zealand's

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Speaker 2: southernmost vineyard and they credit that for the superb taste.

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Speaker 2: So Southern Tour twenty two became the most awarded twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two pininwire in the country, including picking up the

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Speaker 2: Decanter Award that's the most prestigious of them all. Also

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Speaker 2: received the Best in Shot at the Decanter World Wine

873
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Speaker 2: Awards in London, scored in ninety seven out of one hundred.

874
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Speaker 2: You don't get that often bad news, can't get it gone,

875
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Speaker 2: but good news. Macarthurridge's twenty twenty three vintage was named

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Speaker 2: the Champion Pininware and Champion Wine at this year's New

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Speaker 2: Zealand International Wine Show. This one you still can get

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Speaker 2: and she's good. MacArthur Ridge Southern Tour twenty three. All

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Speaker 2: the details at macarthurridge dot com. Mcarthurridge is one word,

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Speaker 2: by the way, macarthurridge dot com good value. You'll enjoy

881
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Speaker 2: asking for twenty four Time down to mark the week,

882
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: little piece of news and current events that so quite

883
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: often produces more tears than an NCEEA exam. Germany two

884
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: governments collapsed to Ireland six they'd call the vote. The

885
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 2: Americans eight spoke with a rare clarity around a singular

886
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: idea called trumpsm Georgia six Democracy one in a place

887
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Speaker 2: it doesn't always trump. Nine We also have.

888
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 15: Won the popular vote hours great.

889
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: As profound a redemption and comeback story as you will

890
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: ever see the All Blacks eight awesome start of the

891
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: Northern Tour proper ah, No we don't count Japan next

892
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: op Ireland, which is not the same as England can

893
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: be bad knocks seven.

894
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 9: Did be Foreign Secretary.

895
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 8: Take that opportunity to apologize for making derogatory and scatological references.

896
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: First out this week in PMQ. She looks quite the package.

897
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: Boris Johnson seven dude, enjoyable and on his way here.

898
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: Politics aside, the world needs more irrepressible and brilliant people

899
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: like him. Mike Grimshaw seven, hero of the week, spoke

900
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: honestly and given the times bravely when he talked of

901
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: universities needing to be more elite. Auckland FC eight a

902
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: sensational story, barely formed. Haven't lost, can't score against them?

903
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: The Ird two got the apology at last, but honestly,

904
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: how they could even begin to justify taking private information

905
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: and flicking it off to Facebook is beyond me. Infrastructure

906
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: six good week. Two tunnels for Wellington progress and Auckland

907
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: for a second harbour crossing. But talking ain't building cars.

908
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: Six because October's sales were some of the best this year, unless,

909
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: of course, you sell the evs a job. Six because

910
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: it wasn't as bad as they thought. I reckon the

911
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: whole landscape's changing. No, we're not rock star, but it's

912
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: not as dreary as some might have thought. Speaking of

913
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: which houses seven well blow me down new stats the

914
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: week first home buyers are paying lesson getting more, not

915
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: the miserable old I'm locked out story. So many want

916
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: to make it out to be. And that's the week

917
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: copies on the website and six of these tired together,

918
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: twisted around, colored and dipped in glitter make an awesome

919
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: Christmas Decyhasky Mike for National voters could be argued that

920
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 2: twenty three was about ensuring labor was out national inn

921
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: twenty six can be about finessing the mix. Not a

922
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: bad point, I'll likett the cut of your jib on that, Mike.

923
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 2: You cannot reverse a treaty just because you don't like it.

924
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: Seymour needs to suck it up. K you're right and

925
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: you're wrong. You make a very valid, valid and credible point,

926
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: but you are wrong. No one's touching the treaty. And

927
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: this is where it behooves Seymour to explain himself as

928
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: clearly as he possibly can. Read the principles he's talking about.

929
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: They're clean, they're clear, they're simple. He's not rewriting the treaty.

930
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: He's not touching the treaty. The treaty doesn't change, and

931
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: that becomes very clear in the principles. The point he

932
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: makes is if you don't like things being mucked with,

933
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 2: why you're putting up with the court Because the courts

934
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 2: are mucking with it and they're doing that all the time.

935
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: So what Mary can do is hire a lawyer get

936
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: the courts to interfere with it. But they don't like it.

937
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: When God forbid, the rest of the New Zealand has

938
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: a say, and that's what they're trying to, among other things, rectify.

939
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 2: So understand the problem before we start going down the track,

940
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: and that that whole misinformation thing is probably in part

941
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: anyway what's going to ultimately undo them. Let's talk about

942
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: Rugby Ireland. Peak of the Tour, as far as I

943
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: can work out, doesn't get better than Ireland. Scott Robertson

944
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 2: is next.

945
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: You're Trusted Home the News for an entertainment's opinion and

946
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: Mike Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local

947
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: experts across residential, commercial and rural news.

948
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 2: Togs Head been Jim McAdie after a twenty three minutes

949
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 2: away from e So this weekend for the all Blacks,

950
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: we have Ireland last time we met was the World Cup,

951
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: of course, where we won, which was a very big

952
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 2: deal given they were favorites at the time. The All

953
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: Black coach, Scott Robertson is with us good morning after

954
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: there from here and now we have not talked since

955
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: the Northern Tour began. Are you enjoying it? Is it

956
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: going well?

957
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been a good start. Obviously, going through Japan

958
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 6: set us up for the England game in heav everything

959
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 6: testaments pretty goes down to the only a few moments

960
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 6: we put enough pressure on them to you know, them

961
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 6: to stop their drop goal and had enough opportunities for ourselves,

962
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 6: you linkquick. And it's been a hell of a start.

963
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: What's the vibe in terms of coverage of you in

964
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: that part of the world after England? Are you taking

965
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 2: as seriously do you think as an All Black squad

966
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: as you always have been?

967
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 6: Oh, mane, it's huge, It's Irish. You know, this is

968
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 6: a massive weekend for them. You know obviously what happened

969
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 6: in the quarterfinal and you know they took a series

970
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 6: minus of us there before, and so there's a there's

971
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 6: a lot in it, you know, like you know fortnight

972
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 6: at Viva you know the crowd with six guinnessism and

973
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 6: it's going to be a hell of an atmosphere. But

974
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 6: we certainly a lot of media and the.

975
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: High around the niggle that we talk of is it

976
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 2: real or not? Really, it's real.

977
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 6: It's real and it's good. Like the personalities and the

978
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 6: stories and behind it just adds to the flavor of

979
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 6: the occasion. You know, it just mu's footy and up

980
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 6: till probably what seven eight years ago. You know, New

981
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 6: Zealand the all back city the number for a long

982
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 6: period of time, but you know it's five and five.

983
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 6: The last teen matches have split them. We've split them

984
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 6: in and now you know they're the real deal Island

985
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 6: top ranking and they've got everything in place, their processes

986
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 6: around all from their age groups, schools right through up

987
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 6: to their professional levels.

988
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: It's because you get in the will that sort of

989
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: answers my question. What is that your assessment of why

990
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: they are where they are now.

991
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a massive part of it. Good good coaching,

992
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 6: consistent coaching, pathways, aligned, good com chitians and they play

993
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 6: and you know their own USC but also the European

994
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 6: Cups that they played some big teams and they've had

995
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 6: a consistency of players, you know, a lot of experienced

996
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 6: players to stet together for a long period of time,

997
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 6: joining sixtems obviously the obvious one that paid a lot

998
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 6: of test experience when it's test footy on most days

999
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 6: and they've got a lot of it in they're a

1000
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 6: tight group.

1001
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1002
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: What what's the difference between when you were there and

1003
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: you were playing and what they do now by way

1004
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: of a system. Has it changed dramatically?

1005
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot really official, really aligned. Like when

1006
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 6: I was over here, paid for pip even you know,

1007
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 6: I mean au touring with the All Blacks. I remember

1008
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 6: we're down. I think we're down twenty points in the

1009
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 6: first few minutes and Jonas score try. I turned around

1010
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 6: and we put twenty on them. But those days have gone,

1011
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 6: you know, you know they're still in all of you

1012
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 6: all backs in regards to the history, but on field

1013
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 6: is a lot tighter. It is all top six six

1014
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 6: to eight teams and we're drug it's only one called plays.

1015
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 6: There's small margins. Things have even up along it. But

1016
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 6: less exciting part, you know, how do you how do

1017
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 6: you find waste to win these games? Is the key?

1018
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: How are you feeling about the tour itself, because as

1019
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: far as Northern tours go, it's a good tour, isn't it?

1020
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: Because England and Ireland other teams, they're the ones you

1021
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: want to play and you throw in France that's not

1022
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: a bad mix.

1023
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1024
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 6: Yeah. The calendar when you throw it, the most just

1025
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 6: mentioned is everybrade fourteen and then you get this, you know,

1026
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 6: the Northern Tour. You know we're forty days away between

1027
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 6: three days into it and you and you go back

1028
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 6: to back to back and you are away. You know,

1029
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 6: I think we're sixty percent maybe even more percent percentages

1030
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 6: you know all bex per Way tests. You know we've

1031
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 6: had five at homen and nine away. Yeah, it's just

1032
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 6: part of the game, you know. You when you winning

1033
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 6: percentages is great and you pay away that adds to it.

1034
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 6: And you know we're excited about tomorrow night and the occasion.

1035
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 6: You know, the leader has been great and there's part

1036
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 6: of going north. You know, when you sit at the

1037
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 6: bottom of the world and your name's then tactically you

1038
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 6: do a lot bit that is true.

1039
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: Is the weather a factor at all? Is it cold

1040
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: and miserable and dark at two o'clock in the afternoon.

1041
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 6: Well we saw some two days in a row. This

1042
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 6: is tropical now it's not. It's look, there's big bit

1043
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 6: agrees on the ball, twking them last week seventeen degrees

1044
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 6: is unbelievable. We couldn't you know. We're training with a

1045
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 6: little bit of water on the ball and all week

1046
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 6: and it turned out a beauty day. But it don't

1047
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 6: be a natural bit of grecius. It might be a

1048
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 6: little bit more kicking. But both teams will play, you know,

1049
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 6: they're they're like short passing games, so it'd be entertaining.

1050
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 6: But the weather's played this part so far.

1051
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: Each week we have when when you're not on, we

1052
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: have a player and I asked the player about their

1053
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 2: view of you, and Patrick Tuvalodo was on last week.

1054
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: Every one of them has said they like your sense

1055
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: of humor. A they like you, but but they like

1056
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: your sense of humor. Is that is that part of

1057
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 2: what you brought to the camp.

1058
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 6: It's ice to hear no I said that all the

1059
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 6: players have them anyway, I'm just myself. I think I

1060
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 6: think as long as they say that and they understand that,

1061
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 6: the sea humans backed up by understanding the game professional

1062
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 6: and helping them be better, you know, getting the best

1063
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 6: out of themselves and caning environment where they can perform.

1064
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 6: And I suppose that the humor on the side is

1065
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 6: that's just me. I'm a people person. I enjoy being around,

1066
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 6: having a company and the gift the rugbyws you get

1067
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 6: together and even I've got your talents and you come

1068
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 6: together as a team. So it's nice to hear.

1069
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: What about the psychology of the tour. I don't want

1070
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 2: to get ahead of it, but I mean this is

1071
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: this is the pinnacle. Isn't Islands the pinnacle France can

1072
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: be brilliant, but then again they might not be. And

1073
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: then you've got Italy. Do you worry that psychologically you

1074
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: can get past this people are going to go a

1075
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: bit soft?

1076
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 20: No.

1077
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 6: I think my focus has been today, in the week

1078
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 6: in front of us, because you can start looking to

1079
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 6: down the track and it you know, you want to

1080
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 6: start looking too early at Christmas. You want you want

1081
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Speaker 6: to make sure that you get what's in front of

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Speaker 6: you right, the week right, and that's it because then

1083
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Speaker 6: you get to get the night right and the performances

1084
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 6: and enjoy it. Like we we talked a little bit

1085
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 6: around the Invincibles. They do were away from nine months

1086
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 6: one hundred years ago, so you've got to put a

1087
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 6: little bit in context. A lot has changed. Yeah, they

1088
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 6: went up in the front of the plane there in

1089
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 6: the back of the boat, you know. So you know

1090
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Speaker 6: we're you know, we're grateful for the opportunities as well,

1091
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Speaker 6: when you know we've got to telling them pre preceding

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Speaker 6: and serving a great country. So we put a bit

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Speaker 6: of perspective in it.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, Go well mate, Scott Robinson with us, Mike, I

1095
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Speaker 2: got Ireland winning first half to Leah and Will Jordan

1096
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Speaker 2: try a score all Blacks coming through the win by

1097
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Speaker 2: five more points. Go the all Blacks, Mike. That was

1098
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Speaker 2: a fabulous and to be the Scott Roberson eloquent and

1099
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: engaging with the incredible insights nearly really never really heard

1100
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Speaker 2: him speak before. Glad you liked it.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen too The Mic Asking Breakfast a full show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be Mike Graves is a breath of fresh air,

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00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: genuine and authentic. I got bits with mates that we

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Speaker 2: go five so I hope so. But as I say,

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Speaker 2: as I asked him about I think you know the

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Speaker 2: French if you beat the Irish, you're feeling good about

1108
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: the French, and you're looking forward to Christmas, and you

1109
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: probably want to go down to Harod's and do some

1110
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: shopping because you've got the Italians next, and you're not

1111
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: concentrating Ore David's assessment Mike of the problem, we go

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Speaker 2: back to Seymour is correct. His solution is poor and

1113
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,479
Speaker 2: not well thought through. Though we need to first build

1114
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Speaker 2: a common understanding or a common way to talk about this. Well.

1115
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: The counter argument to that is, how do you do

1116
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 2: that when half the people who are march on Parliament

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Speaker 2: next week as endorsed by the Labor Party don't want

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Speaker 2: to talk about it. They don't want to have anything

1119
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: to do with it. You're wrong, doesn't matter what you say.

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Speaker 2: You can say anything you like. You're wrong, Mike. I

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00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: likes Seamore's eloquent and concise. I agree with them that

1122
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 2: national walk on eggshells around Maury. Are you wrong, Mike?

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Speaker 2: I'm backing seymon X's election because this is going to

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Speaker 2: be huge. I don't think so. I hope it is.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it will be, though. I think it'll

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Speaker 2: be an issue. I don't think it's what people make

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00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: it out to be. It should be, and you'd like

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Speaker 2: to think it could be, but I don't think in

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Speaker 2: reality it will be. Mike Seymour. One of the things

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Speaker 2: about this country is where we're blase, where complacent as

1131
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: a nation. That's just our sort of our fallback position.

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Speaker 2: If we can have a weekend with a beer and

1133
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Speaker 2: a barbecue and sort of forget about everything that suits us. Fine.

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Speaker 2: Principle one, let me just go through. Just just let

1135
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Speaker 2: me go you. Principle one, Principle two, Principle three. Really,

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Speaker 2: Principal one. Executive Government of New Zealand has full power

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Speaker 2: to govern, and the Parliament of New Zealand has full

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Speaker 2: power to make laws a in the best interests of

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Speaker 2: everyone and be in accordance with the rule of law

1140
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Speaker 2: and the maintenance of a free and democratic society. Problem

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00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 2: so far. Principal two One, The Crown recognizes and will

1142
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 2: respect and protect the rights that Hapu Andiwi Mari had

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Speaker 2: under the Treaty of Waitangi at the time they signed it. Two. However,

1144
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Speaker 2: if those rights differ from the rights of everyone else.

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Speaker 2: Subclause one applies only if those rights were agreed in

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Speaker 2: a settlement of an historic treaty claim under the Treaty

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Speaker 2: Waitangyak nineteen seventy five, Principal three one Everyone is equal

1148
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Speaker 2: before the law. Two. Everyone is entitled without discrimination to

1149
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 2: a the equal protection and equal benefit of the law,

1150
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Speaker 2: and b the equal enjoyment of the same fundamental human rights.

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Speaker 24: Hang on, So you had A one, A two, and

1152
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Speaker 24: A and a B.

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Speaker 2: A one and a two and an A and a

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Speaker 2: B and a principal one two and three.

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Speaker 24: I've forgotten what we were talking.

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Speaker 2: And there it is. And that's that's the beginning, the middle,

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00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 2: and the end of it. That's what that's what got introduced,

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Speaker 2: that's what will be debated, that's what's going off to

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Speaker 2: the Silic committee. Where's the problem? What's as short of

1160
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 2: you being blinded and you being determined? And the counter

1161
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: argument for all the people who have texted and go,

1162
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Speaker 2: explain to me what the opposition is, I can do

1163
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: it really really simply. The opposition is predicated on the

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Speaker 2: idea that if you're a race based person I identify

1165
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Speaker 2: as may, you deserve different treatment. You deserve to be

1166
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Speaker 2: at the front of the line, you deserve a special

1167
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 2: seat to special vote, more money, different money cause you're

1168
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Speaker 2: different and you deserve to be treated. That's the opposition.

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Speaker 2: So the opposition is to everyone's the same. No, we

1170
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 2: don't like being the same. We don't want to be

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Speaker 2: the same. We want to be different and special and

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00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: more important with the accouterments that come with that. And

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Speaker 2: that's your argument. The beginning, middle, and end simple is

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Speaker 2: that tearth away.

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Speaker 1: The with the range river the line we're.

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Speaker 2: As steven away from a got an issue in christ

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Speaker 2: Urich Council, steering down a six and a half million

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00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: dollar problem. That's the price that key We Rail have

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Speaker 2: put on safety improvements to Haut cycle away. Now the

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Speaker 2: crossing poses are one in one thousand and three year risk.

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00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: I've seen this injury or death. At no point, by

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Speaker 2: the way, does the one and a half killometer cycle

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00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 2: away cross the tracks. So now they're facing closure anyway

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Speaker 2: the city council Aaron kewans with us, Aaron, Morning.

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Speaker 20: Morning, Mike.

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00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 2: So literally where is this? A is this on railway land?

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Speaker 2: Hence they've got some sort of say in this.

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00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 20: No, the problem is we're near the crossing, like you

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Speaker 20: said in the lead, And what triggers these upgrades nowadays

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Speaker 20: is if you bring any new people to a crossing point.

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00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 20: So if there was already one thousand people a day

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Speaker 20: crossing there, that's that's all good. But if you go

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Speaker 20: to one thousand and five, you've now triggered an upgrade,

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00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 20: or you've brought new people to the area, so and

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Speaker 20: so forth. So we then have to pay for the

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Speaker 20: upgrade because we put the infrastructure there that drew the

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Speaker 20: people in.

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Speaker 2: What's the upgrade required if you were going to spend

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Speaker 2: six and a half million dollars, what would you build.

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Speaker 20: I'm assuming for that much money. They're meaning the whole

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00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 20: gate system that allows pedestrians and stuff to go in

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Speaker 20: and out through there, which is kind of odd because

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00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 20: the cyclists aren't crossing there. No, Like you said, you

1204
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 20: don't even go over this level crossing, you go beside it.

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Speaker 2: What's the trigger point in getting how close there must

1206
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: be a trigger point if you were if you're not

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00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: crossing it, you must be close, like within five meters

1208
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: you're close enough to trigger it. Is that how that works?

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00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 20: No, My understanding is that other people are going to

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00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 20: go across it. And the number we heard from some

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00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 20: of the local kids and stuff the other day is

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00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 20: that three people now use that crossing to get onto

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Speaker 20: the cycle way, So.

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Speaker 2: That one hundred and three year, it's not like a

1215
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: storm at one in one hundred years storm, is it

1216
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: the one thousand and three that's the three that triggers

1217
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: it to be a problem.

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Speaker 20: I don't know people do, But that modeling that one

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00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 20: in one thousand year is that when you take all

1220
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 20: of the deaths every year and you're divide it by

1221
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 20: how many things and how many people are crossing, that's

1222
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 20: the number you come up with. But only just when

1223
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 20: you look at level crossings across the whole country. It's

1224
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 20: only three point one people a year killed at level crossings.

1225
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 20: Other people die walking on tracks and other things like that,

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Speaker 20: But at level crossings where all these upgrades are, and

1227
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 20: there's thousands needed across the country, going to treat them

1228
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 20: like this, So now you're talking kings and billions of dogs.

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00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 20: You might as well shut railway.

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Speaker 2: What are you going to do about this? Apart from

1231
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: putting well there.

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Speaker 20: Film majors written to the appropriate ministers, I think the

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00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 20: real suggestion is getting them actually down onto the site

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00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 20: to have a little bit of the site and go

1235
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 20: how ludicrous.

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Speaker 2: Are you dealing with? Someone going from Wellington.

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00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 20: Yeah, Yeah, we're dealing with with were types at the

1238
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 20: moment don't seem to want to. They don't want to

1239
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Speaker 20: help us cellate outcome.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll stay in touch with us. That's

1241
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: a cool job, isn't it? In life writing to Kiwi

1242
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: Rail dealing with crap like that. It's just a lot

1243
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: of the people use that track, by the way, to

1244
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: go to Limard High, which is the old Elma Marta,

1245
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: which by the way, is not called Limit High anymore

1246
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: because they all went woke and changed it. But some

1247
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Speaker 2: of us who went.

1248
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Speaker 24: Still, how was it not called the Husking Memorial High?

1249
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Speaker 2: Question of the morning, Glynn Pearl Jam tonight, Mike, I

1250
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: coun't wait. Pearl Jam and Kendrick Lamar have been going

1251
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: to a lot of concerts lately. But I'll tell you

1252
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: what is pearl Jam even a thing anymore? How many

1253
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: will they sell on this news for you? In a

1254
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: couple of moments. Then we'll do the week with Tim

1255
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: and Katie.

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00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,

1257
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: like Costing, Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way, News, Trogs,

1258
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Speaker 1: Dead Be.

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01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 6: There's.

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Speaker 2: A girl Raine got taken twenty five, twenty four. They

1261
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 2: do a range, so as expected, and your own Power

1262
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: will speak within the half hour and give us his

1263
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: dissertation as to what he reckons is going on in

1264
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: the world as he sees it at the moment. Now

1265
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: have a listen to this. There's no your blind tastes

1266
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: this when he There's no question as to who it

1267
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 2: would be. Fourteenth studio album, first completely new material in

1268
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: sixteen years, and they thought they'd do it five years ago.

1269
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: But very much like the NZTA, it takes a bit

1270
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: longer than your thought, so they're running late on it.

1271
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: There are only eight songs. It has suggested it's a

1272
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: high watermark and matches eighty nine's disintegration. Is this alone?

1273
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 10: Now?

1274
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 2: This is a war song. Well alone sets the pace

1275
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 2: with its dense wells of synth, simple pound in drums,

1276
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: and kind of link you building intro that the band

1277
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: perfected on some of the best songs. The intro's three

1278
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: minutes long.

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01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 24: Yeah, all the song is going to have quite long intros.

1280
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: That's because the songs are quite long themselves.

1281
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 24: In I Don't mind it, no one asked you, okay, sorry.

1282
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: Ten and a half minutes is track eight. There's nothing.

1283
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: There's certainly no two thirties in here. What's here?

1284
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 10: What do you call it? War?

1285
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 2: War Song? The Cure? Four minutes seventeen you picked the childre' strack.

1286
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: Young visually A Week in Review with two degrees, fighting

1287
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 1: for fair for Kiwi business, Wilson's.

1288
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: Well us long with Kate Hawk's be good morning you two,

1289
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: Good morning.

1290
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 25: Jeez a que is not the only one with long intros.

1291
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: That's very true, Very good, tim very good. If you

1292
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: want to work on this program, you're just going to

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Speaker 2: be nice to me. That's the new Trump rule. You've

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Speaker 2: got to be nice to the most of the boss.

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Speaker 2: That's how it works.

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Speaker 26: Sorry, you were going to say, I was just going

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Speaker 26: to say, I'm you glad you're not on the States?

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Speaker 26: Aren't you glad that that decision was the right decision.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a very good decision to make

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Speaker 2: before the week, and by the end of the week,

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Speaker 2: as I watched those dreadful, poor souls in the quad

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Speaker 2: in the middle of Washington, I thought I would rather

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Speaker 2: shoot myself than be.

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Speaker 26: Therey sixteen all over again, wasn't it? I mean it

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Speaker 26: was textp Well.

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Speaker 2: The only difference The only difference was in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Although many people, including myself, predicted Trump would win, that

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Speaker 2: was not the popular view. And in that room that

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Speaker 2: night in sixteen, there was no question Clinton would win,

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Speaker 2: whereas this time there was a question mark. It was

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Speaker 2: kind of yep, she probably would.

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Speaker 26: It's funny because I reckon, this is a good lesson.

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Speaker 26: This whole thing is a good lesson for mainstream media,

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Speaker 26: because you know, we've got many of our children listen

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Speaker 26: to no legacy media whatsoever. They all their media from

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Speaker 26: independent citizen journalism, and they were interestedly saying, especially one

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Speaker 26: of my sons had a bet with me that Trump.

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Speaker 26: He did not believe the polls were as close as

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Speaker 26: mainstream media was saying, and he was adamant that Trump

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Speaker 26: was going to win the lot of the popular vote

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Speaker 26: the elect and I was just like, there's no way,

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Speaker 26: and so he wanted me to bow and scrape and apologize.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 26: But it's interesting message because traditional legacy media is so

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Speaker 26: used to taking all its cues from left leaning politicians

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01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 26: and governments that they have all become as an ecosystem.

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Speaker 26: So in their own echo chamber, they are completely out

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Speaker 26: of touch with the real world, and I hope that

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Speaker 26: we learned the lesson here our media. Yeah they won't, sadly,

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Speaker 26: But I mean it's a good lesson, isn't.

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Speaker 2: It if you want to learn it. All lessons are

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Speaker 2: good if you want to learn them. And that's the

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Speaker 2: key to lessons. You've got to want to learn them,

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Speaker 2: and that's the difficulty. I was think about that. Funnily enough,

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Speaker 2: just a moment ago is watching in Australian television this morning,

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Speaker 2: they're running the pictures from yesterday's protest outside of Parliament

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Speaker 2: on this treaty thing. There were about four and a

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Speaker 2: half people there, and I thought, that's not a protest,

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01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: and it's not every time a few dozen people.

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Speaker 26: You market yesterday, Yeah, and there was, you know, there's

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Speaker 26: like four people with a flag.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's like the mode make it. Unfortunately, are

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Speaker 2: so rote they don't know how to cover and use

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Speaker 2: the way it should be covered these days, which is

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01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: if there's a protest, we must cover it. The fact

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Speaker 2: there's four people there doesn't negate that, and you know,

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01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: no one then goes, hey, this isn't actually a story.

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Speaker 2: Let's stop now and start again, and so it goes

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's the difficulty.

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Speaker 26: There used to be the bart slipped so low in

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Speaker 26: the media.

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Speaker 2: That used to be the role.

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Speaker 26: When I started out as a reporter moons and moons ago.

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Speaker 26: If you came back with footage that was like four people,

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01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 26: that would be straight in the burin. But we're not

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Speaker 26: running that. There's no way.

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Speaker 2: That's unfortunately, resource thing these days, and once they commit

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Speaker 2: to yeah, once they commit a resource to a thing,

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Speaker 2: it needs to be covered, come hell or high water.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's where, in part anyway, it's gone wrong.

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Speaker 25: Can we talk about the one person who lost the

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Speaker 25: election that no one's talking about?

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Speaker 2: Who was that? Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 17: And the.

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Speaker 1: US selection all celebrities.

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Speaker 26: They've got to stop. They've got to realize, Hollywood elite,

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Speaker 26: how sick of them we are. And people don't want

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Speaker 26: to hear what they think. I love how George Clooney

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Speaker 26: is now being blamed for losing it.

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Speaker 27: I thought I thought you had a great editorial mic

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Speaker 27: actually about that earlier this week, at the risk of

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Speaker 27: having to sort of, you know, stuck up to you

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Speaker 27: and be nice to you as the new rules, but

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Speaker 27: really excellent. It was actually a there's a survey of

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Speaker 27: study done in North Carolina State University saying that young

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01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 27: people actually they didn't like celebrities telling them who to

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Speaker 27: vote for. They actually went off They went off that

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01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 27: candidate a bit more, and they actually ended up going

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Speaker 27: off the celebrities. So I think that's going to be

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Speaker 27: a bit of question.

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Speaker 2: Because I read a very interesting article yesterday that was

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01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: asking the question did the celebrity endorsement thing actually damage

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Speaker 2: the campaign? They couldn't conclude whether it did or not,

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Speaker 2: but you suggest that it probably did, and I would

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Speaker 2: tend to agree. But it also goes back to what

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Speaker 2: I've always said, and that is there's nothing wrong with

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift or Richie mccaugh or George Clooney or anybody

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Speaker 2: you like, as long as they stay in their lane.

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Speaker 2: You love them for who they are, not for whatever

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Speaker 2: else it is in their life. I mean, I love Lebron, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because he's Lebron. I couldn't care less who he votes for,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not interested vote for either, I mean, just

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Speaker 2: play basketball.

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Speaker 25: Well, celebrity has actually emerged once they started chopping their

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01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 25: heads off aristocrats and the French Revolution. So that's where

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Speaker 25: that I mean, we need people to look up to.

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Speaker 25: But they are a particular kind. It's a particular kind

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Speaker 25: of admiration. We don't expect, as you say, we don't

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Speaker 25: expect them. If we want a king, we'll.

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Speaker 20: Go to the king.

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Speaker 2: By Coastal elites is what somebody called them, and I

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01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 2: thought that's a good way of putting it. In Middle America,

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01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 2: and you've been there more than anyone else. To in

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Speaker 2: Middle America, it is not Los Angeles and it's not

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Speaker 2: New York. And they you know, yeah, they like their songs.

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Speaker 2: But apart from that, what they talk out, they would

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Speaker 2: have a clue and.

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Speaker 26: That it's a new era for Hollywood elites. They don't

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01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 26: look up to it. You know, when we were growing

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01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 26: they may have been icons. We might have gone swooned

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01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 26: and thought they were cool. These days, they look at

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01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 26: the p Diddy scandal, the Weinstein scandal, the Epstein scandals,

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Speaker 26: and they're like, they don't have any regard for Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: They think they're just a bunch of extra exact, very

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Speaker 2: good point and a life lesson from a famous person

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Speaker 2: they talked to yesterday. Do you want to know who

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Speaker 2: I talked to yesterday?

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Speaker 10: How was that?

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Speaker 2: More? Shortly fourteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Talks B News TALKSB at a seventeen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Weekend Review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions

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Speaker 1: to the table. I, unfortunately, Katie, had a couple of

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Speaker 1: people in the studio during the news and they gave

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Speaker 1: me a cap.

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01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 2: And I said the difficulty in They said will you

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Speaker 2: wear it? And I said, I'd love to, but my

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01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 2: wife says, I've got the world's biggest head. And I looked, hey,

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01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 2: that's not just me.

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Speaker 26: The kids agree, and they've said they've told you the

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Speaker 26: same thing when you wear caps. But wait a minute,

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Speaker 26: what sort of this isn't a mega hat or anything,

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01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 26: is it.

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Speaker 24: It's a megahead, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It's not a mega hat, it's a what It's a

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01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 2: white Ferns cap, an official white Ferns cap. And the

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Speaker 2: White Ferns are of course, of the World champs. And

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Speaker 2: they came in to see me with their trophy and

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Speaker 2: they gave me a cap and I and they said

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01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 2: will They said will you wear it? And I said,

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Speaker 2: I really really really want to just put it on

1443
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 2: now and I don't want to go. I see. I see,

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01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 2: I said my wife, what's the problem. My wife says,

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Speaker 2: I've got.

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Speaker 10: The take it off.

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Speaker 24: Take it off, take it off, take it off, take

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Speaker 24: it off.

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01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 2: It sounds like take it off. SAMs looking at me, going,

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01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 2: how cool are you?

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01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 26: Take it off?

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 2: It's fantastically I'm going to keep it. If I put

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01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: it on backwards, how does that look? No, don't do

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01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 2: that's worse anyway from giving you caps. I don't know

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01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 2: what to do because I want I want to be

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Speaker 2: patriotic and I want to support the White Ferns and

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Speaker 2: I want to be part of the World Championship team.

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Speaker 2: But I don't want to look rude.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, get a T shirt.

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Speaker 2: Get it, We're a white T shirt.

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Speaker 20: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Today two life lessons about age. So I'm at Gregg's

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01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 2: place getting the hair cut every third Thursday. So Gregg's

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Speaker 2: just coming back from his injury because he's the same

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Speaker 2: age I am. He fell over ice skating and he's

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Speaker 2: just coming back take weeks of rehab. And he said

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Speaker 2: one of the things all the medicos and stuff have

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Speaker 2: talked to him about is doing certain activities when you

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Speaker 2: reach a certain age, which is a good lesson in life.

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Speaker 2: He said, he'd go ice skating again, even though he's

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Speaker 2: almost sixty. This was with his kids, right, he went

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Speaker 2: I skating. He didn't have a couple of bebes and

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Speaker 2: go out ice skating. He took his kids ice skirt

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01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 2: so anyway, he fractured his shoulder and he'd be stretched

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Speaker 2: a couple of attendants.

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Speaker 26: Anyway, it's taken embarrassing for the child when dad takes

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Speaker 26: you ice skating and falls over and just about requires

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Speaker 26: an ambulance, that's embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: That's what's funny. I was just talking to Jason about that.

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Speaker 2: Jason's off to a Christmas function tonight and with the

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Speaker 2: whole family. It's one of those whole family work functions,

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Speaker 2: and it's at a place where he could do things

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Speaker 2: that would embarrass him given his age in size, but

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Speaker 2: the kids would love it. And it's entirely possible he

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Speaker 2: could end up injured tonight. And so that's a good warning, Katie, thank.

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Speaker 6: You for that.

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Speaker 10: That's good.

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01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he should think about that. The other one was

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Speaker 2: and anyway, so it's what stuff do you keep doing

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Speaker 2: at a certain age knowing if it goes wrong, you'll

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01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: struggle to get back to normality. And I thought that

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Speaker 2: was a good life lesson there.

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Speaker 26: You can still cut your hair though that's the main

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Speaker 26: well exactly Yea.

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Speaker 2: Then I was talking with Jamie Oliver and he and

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Speaker 2: I was following that off the floor, yeah, I said,

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Speaker 2: I said, I said, Jamie, what about the car the

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Speaker 2: other day? He was auctioning off an old Ford Capri

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Speaker 2: mark one and you don't know about this, Katie, but

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Speaker 2: I put a couple of bids on it. And I said,

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Speaker 2: how did that go in the end? And he told

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Speaker 2: me what happened, et cetera, et cetera. And I said,

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Speaker 2: why why are you getting rid of it? And he goes,

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Speaker 2: I've reached an age where I just don't want stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I thought, now that's now that's another life lesson

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Speaker 2: because I feel the same thing that the yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: sick of stuff. Stuff's irrelevant. You don't need stuff. We

1508
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,560
Speaker 2: just divest ourselves of stuff. And he's already doing it,

1509
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 2: and I thought that that that that's that's worth listening

1510
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: to and learning as well.

1511
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 25: But are you aren't you a big divestor anyway or

1512
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 25: saw have you? You seem like a thrower outer like.

1513
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: We don't I throw out, but I then bring back

1514
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: in other stuff. Oh oh, I see I rotate, so

1515
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 2: my net my net is zero. But I really should

1516
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: be going backwards in terms of stuff.

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01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 26: Yeah, but you hoarde certain things, so you're a sort

1518
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 26: of minimalist. But when it comes to things like care

1519
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 26: or fragrance or cashmere uses marino, you seem to have

1520
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 26: a mountain of.

1521
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 2: It without wanting to sound like a complete You know what,

1522
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 2: My fragrance collection is a good example of that, isn't

1523
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: it my fragrance collection?

1524
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 25: You already sound like that person.

1525
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 2: You've already sound. I'm just that, you know, well, because

1526
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 2: well because I can't believe that shouldn't.

1527
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 25: You shouldn't you be shouldn't you be clearing away the foiballs?

1528
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 25: Shouldn't you be refining yourself?

1529
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 10: Ye're so sure?

1530
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 2: And that's that's the Janie olidays Greg the haircut a

1531
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 2: lesson in life. It's it's learn as you go and

1532
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 2: constantly look to improve yourself. And one of those things

1533
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 2: is to divest yourself properly of junk.

1534
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 25: So that you know that you can can I offer

1535
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 25: another piece of advice for self improvement? Yes, so you

1536
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 25: were you were commenting on a text yesterday It said, oh,

1537
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 25: we're going to end up in Washington during the inauguration.

1538
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 25: You're like, oh, just tell them you planned it. You

1539
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 25: realize there are kids listening. You realize that this is

1540
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 25: how parents operate, and you've let the cat out of

1541
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,839
Speaker 25: the bag. You've let them all down exactly.

1542
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 2: Sorry, can you not do that? My apologies has just

1543
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 2: walked into the room. Do not give away the parental secrets.

1544
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Speaker 2: Let's not go there with centtacaus then shall we now?

1545
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: Nice to see you guys. You have a good weekend.

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Speaker 2: Kate talks with Tim Wilson for another week A twenty two.

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Speaker 2: goodness sake. Shop online too if you're like to go

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Speaker 2: to the chemist Warehouse Husky. Jamie Oliver, by the way,

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Speaker 2: is going to be on the program next week. It's

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Speaker 2: a very nice interview. Even if I do say so myself, Mike,

1572
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 2: I feel for your hairdresser as I fractured my right

1573
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 2: shoulder seven weeks ago. Well, I hope the rehab's going. Well,

1574
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 2: he's still going. He's a bit short on one side,

1575
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 2: and hence I got wonky here this week.

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01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 10: But there you go.

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01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 24: It's amazing you're not falling over all.

1578
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 2: Exactly, Mike, U has Christmas events in November. Well, the

1579
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 2: answer is, you know, without giving a labor company, one

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01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 2: of the largest companies in the country, and thousands of

1581
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 2: people and lots of people are into it. Kit with

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01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 2: the spirit, you're miserable, sod Mike. I'll get you a

1583
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: Teams Valley Swamp Fox's cap that will fit perfectly. Please, Scott.

1584
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 2: I need more caps because I'm led to believe that

1585
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 2: I'm a bit of a hottie and a cap news

1586
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: for news moments. And then Murray Alt.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show. You can trust the Mic Hosking Breakfast

1588
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: with the range Rover, the la designed to intrigue and

1589
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:04,480
Speaker 1: use togsadbs.

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Speaker 2: He had a fantastic wife there, Mike, two hundred percent

1591
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 2: agree with Katie. I agree with you Hosking. Men need stuff.

1592
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: You should have a British bike in an Aston Martin

1593
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: by now, thank you, Paul.

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 24: Many perfumes though, that's the question.

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01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of perfumes morning, Mike. Are we

1596
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 2: will they not perfumes there out of puff Whom's morning, Mike,

1597
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: are we going to get an update this Friday regarding

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01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,560
Speaker 2: Liam laws? And I love your views. It helps me

1599
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 2: understand if one yes, Brian, I do have an update

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01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: in just a couple of moments, but not before we

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01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 2: hear from the Fed who have cut and the main

1602
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:33,759
Speaker 2: man Jpal.

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Speaker 21: Inflation has used significantly over the past two years. Total

1604
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,759
Speaker 21: PCE praces rose two point one percent over the twelve

1605
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 21: months ending at September. Excluding the viotal food and energy categories,

1606
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 21: core PC prices rose two point seven percent. Overall, inflection

1607
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 21: has moved much closer to our two percent longer run goal,

1608
01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 21: but core inflection remains somewhat elevated. Longer termed flesh and

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01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 21: expectations appear to remain well anchored, as a reflected in

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01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 21: a broad range of surveys of households, businesses and forecasters,

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01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 21: as well as measures from financial.

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Speaker 18: Markets, International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 18: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: I've heard he's quite an entertainment of the feared Christmas party.

1615
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 2: Murray Olds, how are you well?

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01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 14: Veggued?

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01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 5: Pretty well?

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01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 10: Now?

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01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 2: This happened fairly rapidly. I mean the whole thing's been

1620
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,679
Speaker 2: a complete cluster if you go back to the original story,

1621
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: and that was that the whole bunch of people in

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01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 2: the country shouldn't be in the country, and they went

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01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 2: to court, and because they were in the country and

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01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: couldn't get booted out somewhere, the court decided you needed

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01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 2: to release them, So out into the community they went,

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01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 2: and then started rampaging around the place because half of

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01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 2: them were crooks. Then we go back to court with

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01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 2: another person finding it's unconstitutional to have an ankle bracelet,

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01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 2: so we've got to whip those off. So not only

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01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 2: are they free raping and pillaging, they don't even aim

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01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: an ankle bracelet anymore. All of this is the government's

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01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: fault because they didn't see it coming and they didn't

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01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 2: do anything about it. So now they've tried to fix

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01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: with the quick law. Is that going to work.

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01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,879
Speaker 14: Well, you've summed it up pretty well and the government's

1636
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 14: pretty confident that it can circumvent what the High Court

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01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 14: ruled this week. The High Court says it's not for

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01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 14: governments to impose punishments on people, right, so you can't

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01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 14: put curfews on these illegal immigrants. You can't make them

1640
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 14: wear ankle bracelets to track their movements. But the governments

1641
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 14: come back within twenty four hours in a drafted new

1642
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,440
Speaker 14: legislation that basically said, well listen, there's not a punishment

1643
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 14: of the individuals. This is more about protecting society. Now

1644
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 14: will that fly with the High Court? Not sure, But

1645
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 14: it's quite a complex bit of rushed legislation because in

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01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 14: the detail there the thing is that and as you

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 14: point out, I mean these people who have been released,

1648
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 14: they do include people are convicted of murder, attempted murder,

1649
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 14: sexual assault, and.

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01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 27: A whole lot more on.

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01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 14: This of course is a bat for the opposition to

1652
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 14: just wail away against the government. So what the new

1653
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 14: powers do was said a condition where the Australian government

1654
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 14: can go to another country and say, would you agree

1655
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 14: to accept people who have been released from immigration detention

1656
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 14: if we pay you. Well, it could be any country,

1657
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 14: could be in New Zealand, could be the United States,

1658
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 14: but good luck in both of those cases. So the

1659
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 14: government is pretty confident Mike that it's got around the

1660
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 14: High Court decision. What's it really mean? Long term? Has

1661
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 14: still got the issue of these people who are in

1662
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 14: basically in limbo because they don't have anywhere to go.

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01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 14: They can't be sent back to their country of origin

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01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 14: because you know, for fear of persecution and the like,

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01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 14: and there's nowhere else to go.

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01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's your problem. I mean, obviously Britain had

1667
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 2: the Rwanda situation which got tied up in courts forever.

1668
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 2: Italy has got the I've forgotten the name. Where are

1669
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 2: they seeing the Algeria I think anyway, the point being

1670
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 2: that's tied up in court as well. But I mean,

1671
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 2: how is it you get when you say you can't

1672
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,879
Speaker 2: send them back to where they came. These are murderers

1673
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 2: and rapists and pillagers. Why can't you so get they

1674
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 2: get persecuted? He do they're murderers and rapists and pillages.

1675
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 14: Well, look fab for me to comment on you know,

1676
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 14: basically human rights. You know human rights law. There's any

1677
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 14: number of lawyers here who will stand up and make

1678
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 14: the case for these people to be at least afford

1679
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 14: the protection in the same way that Australia would never

1680
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 14: send about. New Zealand would never send a person back

1681
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 14: to a country where they could face capital punishment, where

1682
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 14: they could be executed for crime. So that's where it

1683
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 14: goes to Now. It's a very complicated situation, as you

1684
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 14: well appreciate, and there's no easy solutions here. I mean,

1685
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 14: whatever government's here, Coalition under Dutton or Labor under Elbow,

1686
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 14: they're going to have the same problem and there's no

1687
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 14: easy answer to.

1688
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 2: Albania is one the country is trying to think oft

1689
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: with Lily. Now listen, this is this depresses me because

1690
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 2: we all know about New Zealand as leading New Zealand

1691
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 2: for Australia. But I mean, this immigration problem, You've got

1692
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 2: your promised you could tail and you're not going to.

1693
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 2: But New Zealand is the article I'm reading. A whole

1694
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,560
Speaker 2: lot students come here, want to stay. New Zealander is

1695
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 2: leaving their weak economy in search of a job in Australia.

1696
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's why. But you can't stop us. I mean,

1697
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 2: that's the problem. If you're looking to try and curtail

1698
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 2: immigration numbers, you can't stop New Zealanders arriving in Australia

1699
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:15,839
Speaker 2: the way you can with other countries.

1700
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 14: Well, it's true, exactly right. There's a special agreement between

1701
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 14: the two trans Tasman neighbors. And it was interesting this

1702
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 14: week because it was the Secretary of Treasury Stephen Kennedy

1703
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 14: was giving some evidence to a Senate inquiry and he

1704
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 14: basically said, listen, immigration is out of control. That was

1705
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 14: standing with the government's trying to do. You've got a

1706
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 14: lot of students who are here, are applying for longer visas,

1707
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 14: a lot of graduate holders which have almost doubled. These

1708
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 14: are people who have completed degrees are looking to stay

1709
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 14: on as well. And the big surprise came that there

1710
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 14: are seven hundred and twenty thousand New Zealanders over here

1711
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 14: currently looking for jobs. And that was the quote from Kennedy,

1712
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 14: the Treasury boss. He said, the weak New Zealand economy

1713
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 14: with unemployment increasing to four point eight percent over home

1714
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 14: in New Zealand, he said, guess what more keys are

1715
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 14: coming here looking for work. And there's a lot of

1716
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 14: anger here about migration. We've got a housing crisis, congestion

1717
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 14: on the roads and public transport, the whole changing face

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Speaker 14: of Australia mic and you don't have to look very

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Speaker 14: far I E. Washington, d C. To see the role

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Speaker 14: that you know, uncontrolled immigration played and Donald Trump's win, correct,

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01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 14: that's going to play out here.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, how Orkies does it get when old

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Speaker 2: keV has to go.

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Speaker 14: Oh, I laughed like a bloody drain. I've forgotten about

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01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 14: Kevin Rudd, you know, venting his little spleen. I'm looking

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Speaker 14: for the quotes here. Trump the most destructive president in history,

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01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 14: a traded to the West, a man who drags America

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01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,520
Speaker 14: and democracy through the mud. This is the Australian ambassador

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Speaker 14: to Washington. So of course he was frequently fratically going

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01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 14: through frantically going through his socials deleting these tweaks about

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01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 14: Donald Trump. So too Anthony Albanezi. He once said that

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Speaker 14: Trump scared the living out of him, and he also

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01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 14: condemned Trump over the January sixth riot at the Capitol.

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Speaker 14: So there's a bunch of fence meaning to be done.

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Speaker 14: And of course the whole thing for Australia Now, I

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01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 14: mean Donald Trump's mantra wasn't America first, So what does

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Speaker 14: that mean with tariff's in Australia. The Americans are our

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01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 14: third biggest trading partner, Mike China the biggest. So if

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01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 14: China all of a sudden gets a sixty percent tariff

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Speaker 14: on exports to the United States, will China still need

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01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 14: the amount of stuff we sell? To the Chinese. Will

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01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 14: Australia be able to get carve outs for the exports

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01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 14: that Australia sends to the US and what happens to

1744
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 14: things like Orcus and the nuclear submarine deal. Is Trump's

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01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 14: still going to sell three Virginia class submarines to Australia

1746
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 14: And if so, is he going to crank the price

1747
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:49,679
Speaker 14: so many moving parts.

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Speaker 2: It's so exciting and we are in the same conversation

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Speaker 2: barbing submarines. Of course, by the way that you suggest

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01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: that there is interest in the wallab he's taking on England.

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Speaker 2: I saw England Life last week and the All Blacks,

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Speaker 2: who are a better side than the Australians, and we

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01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: just scraped home. I can't work out why you would think,

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01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 2: or anyone in Australia would think that the England are

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01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: going to do anything other than kick you up the backside.

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Speaker 14: Well that's it's a very good point. I mean, there

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01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 14: are some green shoots appearing in the Australian rugby landscape.

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Speaker 14: Under Joe Schmidt, very good coach. He took Ireland to

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Speaker 14: world number one, don't forget six nation champions twice, beat

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Speaker 14: the spring Box, beat the All Blacks in fact under

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Speaker 14: Schmid and don't forget that all Black win. I mean

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Speaker 14: they only scored one and too scept try the Poms

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Speaker 14: and they kicked six or seven a lot of six

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Speaker 14: penalties because of doub all Black mistakes. I mean, you

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Speaker 14: eliminate those mistakes. You don't throw that past the All

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Speaker 14: Blacks win twenty four, Neil, that's a hopeless Englond side.

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Speaker 14: So you know, let's just wait and see. They are

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Speaker 14: hard at home and they've seen that swing loaves, sweet

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01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 14: Chariot and you know all the Poms get excited in

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Speaker 14: the pubs beforehand. It's a great atmosphere, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the truth. We're playing the Irish. Of course

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Speaker 2: that will be a genuine that'll be all for the table.

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Speaker 2: As they say, hey Murray, you go well, we'll catch up,

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Speaker 2: so appreciate it. Thank you, Michael che Murray olds across

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Speaker 2: the Tasman for us. They didn't have time to talk

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01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 2: about Ray Hadley a they write today Ray Hadley as

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Speaker 2: a mate of Murray's work at the same radio station,

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01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 2: and rayas announced his retirement from radio yesterday after forty

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01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 2: three years in the business. He's probably the biggest name

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Speaker 2: in Australian radio is it currently sits fourteen to nine.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Actually Murray alluded it to it, but the NAB yesterday

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01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: came in with their profit for the latest period. If

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01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,560
Speaker 2: we go forward the head of the NAB, if it

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01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 2: goes ahead and he refers to Trump and executes his

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01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 2: tariff agenda, that'll be negative implications for the global economy

1788
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 2: in there. For Australia, their profit was seven point one billion,

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Speaker 2: which is down eight percent. They're surrygate in this part

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Speaker 2: of the world.

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Speaker 5: As the n Z.

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Speaker 2: Of course, they too came out with their number yesterday

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01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: which was one point five billion. That wasn't near a record.

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Speaker 2: Their margin hang on a throne. At their margin at

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Speaker 2: the NAB, coun't find but at one point something was

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Speaker 2: high ones. I think it was one point nine, whereas

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01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 2: the margin for the ben Z it's two point three seven.

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01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: So once again we asked the question between the two

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Speaker 2: and how to explain it. The bean zaid he has

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Speaker 2: seemed to be taking business off other banks, once again

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01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: indicating there's actually competition in the banking market. While I'm

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01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 2: just on the subject of business. I feel I don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm sort of betwixt in between, because you know, if

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Speaker 2: you've been a long term listened to this program. I

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01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 2: called it all Birds early. No one called her but

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01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 2: all Birds earlier than I did. I said, there is

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Speaker 2: no future those sort of shoes, those sort of shoes

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01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 2: are never ever ever going to take off, And so

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Speaker 2: it has proved to be and yesterday sales down another

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent. But the sadness says, of course it's

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Speaker 2: Tim Brown, and you want to support a New Zealander

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Speaker 2: and the dream and the idea and all of that

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01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. But it's just I just every time

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01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 2: they report it gets worse. And the world was never

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01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 2: going to take on Marino based shoes.

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Speaker 24: I feel like it was your negativity that perhaps has

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01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 24: led to its down mark. Well, when you just give

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Speaker 24: every opportunity you just described them as being rude shoes

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Speaker 24: suggest time.

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Speaker 2: I want to, I personally blame Jack Tame because he

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01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 2: counted he juxtaposed me by going, no, they're cool shoes,

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Speaker 2: and he started wearing them.

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Speaker 24: Well, if ever, we were in doubt on who has

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01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 24: the most influence over, you know, the consumers of the world.

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Speaker 2: Well, precisely, I mean twenty five percent. I wish them well.

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Speaker 2: I want it to work for them and Tim and co.

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Speaker 24: But can you just tell me what that crypto is

1828
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 24: that you're recommending on Facebook again?

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01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 2: It is nine away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The costume, Breakfast with a Feeder, Retirement, Communities News, tod.

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Speaker 2: Be Michael Trump. Will want to know is whether we

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Speaker 2: charge tariffs on US imports?

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Speaker 20: Do we know?

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Speaker 2: Fairest fearers and Adam No, because we are the ultimate

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01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 2: free trader. We are the original free trader of the world.

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01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 2: Roger Douglas nineteen eighty four, Labor Government of Longie. We

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Speaker 2: are the original free trader. If we could have no

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Speaker 2: tariffs anywhere with anybody, we would be off and running.

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Speaker 2: So tariffs are simply a form of protectionism to protect

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01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 2: an industry that can't do as well as we do.

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01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 2: Meets a classic example. We make meat better than Americans,

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01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 2: and the Americans know it, and they can't compete them,

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01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 2: so they want a tariffs to protect them. I love

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01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 2: my All Birds, Mike. That's good. I'm glad you do.

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01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,560
Speaker 2: But the problem is there aren't enough of you to

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01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 2: make the company profitable. Mike, Tim Brown and All Birds

1847
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 2: must pivot. That's what I was going to say before

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01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 2: the before the break, but pivot to what I mean.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, that's all they do. I mean, they've

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01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 2: gone on to make T shirts and stuff like that,

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01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 2: but their original thing was shoes. They make shoes. Their

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01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 2: thing is shoes made.

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01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 24: What about caps for people with extraordinarily large heads? Could

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01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 24: do that, I'd be in the market for one of those.

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01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 24: I've got a large head syndrome.

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01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: Marino caps for people with huge heads. Lie there, Tim's

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01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 2: Tim's invested in the Auckland FC. Next time I see

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01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: them at an Auckland f C game, I'll go, Tim,

1859
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 2: look at my head? What can you do with it?

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01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 2: Probably wouldn't involve putting a cap on it?

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Speaker 24: They might just kick out.

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01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 14: Right.

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Speaker 2: Clooney's taking heat this morning? Is we heard earlier on

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01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 2: for getting involved in the election far to really and

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01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 2: suggesting Biden needed to move on. Then we come to

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Speaker 2: the late night guys who were all left leanders. Of

1869
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 2: course Colbert handled it. Okay, Hey there, how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: If you watch the show regularly, I'm guess saying you're

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01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 2: not doing great. Yeah, me neither, honestly, And you wonder

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01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 2: why they're knocking them down to four nights so we

1873
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 2: can not looking at canceling them, Kimmel, though not so good.

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Speaker 28: Let's be honest. It was a terrible night last night.

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01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 28: It was a terrible night for women, for children, for

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01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 28: the hundreds of thousands of hard working immigrants who make

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01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:53,799
Speaker 28: this country go for healthcare, for our climate, for science,

1878
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 28: for journalism, for justice, for free speech. It was a

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01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 28: terrible night for poor people, from the middle class, for

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01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 28: seniors to reliance, so security, for our allies in Ukraine,

1881
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:08,520
Speaker 28: for NATO.

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01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 2: Or the true really really bad. And then there was

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01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 2: that story yesterday yet again, googling how to leave America

1884
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 2: and heads to New Zealand. It's just like every It's

1885
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 2: like life, just it's it's we are in the Truman Show.

1886
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 2: It's essentially well are you?

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01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:25,600
Speaker 19: Is it you?

1888
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 16: Or me?

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01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 2: Actually, very good point next week, Jamie Oliver. Apart from

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01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 2: other stuff, some of which I could tell you about,

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01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 2: And I'm tempted to, but I don't want to. Well

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01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 2: I do want to, but I'm not allowed to. I

1893
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 2: don't think I'm allowed to. Oh No, He's the week after,

1894
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 2: isn't he. Gunt Steiner, Yeah, he's the week after, so

1895
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 2: he's not next week. He's the week after, so we'll

1896
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 2: have to look forward to that. Anyway. Back on Monday,

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Speaker 2: as always, have you.

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