1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Devin Gray. Are UK correspondents with me? Hello, Gevin, hither 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: have that? 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 2: Oh? 4 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: How excited are you guys about Donald and all of 5 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: the fuss? 6 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: Well, there will be a lot of fuss, a lot 7 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: of pageantry, and of course they're really laying out the 8 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 2: red carpet, both metaphorically and in reality as well. So 9 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: Donald Trump to arrive at Windsor Castle and to meet 10 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: King Charles the Third today. Now, the Queen Camilla did 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 2: not attend the funeral of a relative yesterday, and that's 12 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: because she's said to be still suffering a little bit 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: of sinusitis. But nevertheless, a very big day, an unprecedented 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: second state visit. They are doing all this pomp and 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: sorry because they know Donald Trump loves this. They are 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: desperate to try and have some good trade deals. We've 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: already seen a number of very very large, multi billion 18 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: ones announced by large American companies here in the UK. 19 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: So that's what the Prime Minister wants and I dare 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: say that's what the country wants and needs. But already 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: we're seeing light alterations to the itinerary in that they 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: are said we're going to change the route of the procession, 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 2: We're going to change the root of this and that 24 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: for security reasons. However, some are also saying, we note 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: that that will also mean he's seen in public much 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: much less and seen much further away by the public. 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: And last night, Heather, it's the morning here of course 28 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: our time. Last night a huge image of Donald Trump, 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: pictured next to Jeffrey Epstein, was beamed onto the walls 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: of Windsor Castle by protesters. 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: Now, what is going on with this deal, this attempt 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: by Stammer to eliminate the tariffs on the UK steal exports. 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: Has he just given up on this. 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: At the moment. Yes, it'd be wrong to say they've 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: given up completely, but so as part of the pomp 36 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: and pageantry, obviously the Prime Minister is going to be 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: pressuring Donald Trump into hammering down the rest of the 38 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: trade deal. Now, the UK and US signed a trade 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: deal in June over numerous things, and the Prime Minister said, 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: what an amazing win it was. Indeed that deal did 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: reduce tariff's on car and aerospace imports, but it left 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: British steel and steel exports into America with tariffs of 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: twenty five percent. Now other countries face steel tariffs of 44 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: fifty percent so senior government sources said, well, it's already 45 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: very good, very competitive, but they had said it was 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: coming down to zero, and our Prime Minister Secures Starma 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: made a big deal of that when it was announced. 48 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: Well it hasn't come down to zero. And it looks 49 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: like that that actual move is now basically on hold indefinitely. 50 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: And so the hope that this might be actually notified 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: and advertised here at this visit is now not going 52 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: to happen. And the steel industry really on the ropes 53 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: here anyway, with the government now actually renational well getting 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: close to renationalizing major parts of it. 55 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: Interesting, Ok, you know what's happened to this one in 56 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: one out? What if a migrant deal? Has this fallen 57 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: a pad already? 58 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's one in and frankly one staying at 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: the moment, and that is because the very first were 60 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: due to be sent back around about now actually in 61 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: the next hour or so under this one in one 62 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: out returns pilot scheme that was heralded again between the 63 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: UK and France back in July. Now, one of the 64 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: very first people on this trip, in fact, potentially the 65 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: first was an erroritraan man who arrived in the UK 66 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: illegally by a small boat. Well, right as the deadline approached, 67 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: he launched a legal challenge and the twenty five year 68 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: old last night was mentioned at the High Court in London, 69 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: with his lawyers arguing that he needed more time to 70 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: present evidence he might actually have been the victim of 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: modern day slavery. Now, the problem was that he was 72 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: already claiming that he wouldn't be safe in France. Well, 73 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: I think the Home Office, our ministers here and the 74 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: judge that would have been dismissed because why and France 75 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: safe to him, you know, it's a safe country. However, 76 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: he then argued in court as well or his lawyers did, 77 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: that he was a victim of modern day slavery. And 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: even the Home Office has admitted in one department that 79 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: he wouldn't be able to fight that properly and get 80 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: evidence if he worked back in France. So guess what, Yep, 81 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: it's been kicked into the semi long grass for expecting 82 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: another decision in a fortnight. But what this does, of course, Heather, 83 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: is that anyone now on that list of one on 84 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: one out can suddenly say, oh, hang on a minute, 85 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: I also might actually be a victim of modern day slavery, 86 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 2: and that mean it's automatically extended further. There are people 87 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: in this country, frankly aghast at all of this, and 88 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: indeed the leader of the opposition said we told you 89 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: so and is calling for much tougher laws. 90 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredibly frustrating, Gevin. Thanks so much. 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