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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vane on your home of Sport News TALKSB.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 4: There, you're a good afternoon. Welcome into the Sunday edition

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Speaker 4: of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB. October nineteen, Happy

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Speaker 4: sixty third birthday to former heavyweight world champion Evander Holyfield.

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Speaker 4: I'm Jason Pine Show producer. Today Tyra Robbers. We're here

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Speaker 4: talking sport until three. A very special guest to lead

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Speaker 4: us off today, lou Vincent. An extended chat coming up

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Speaker 4: with the former Black Caps batsman who scored a century

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Speaker 4: on Test Day bill against Australia, played all three formats

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Speaker 4: for New Zealand over one hundred One Day internationals and

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Speaker 4: amongst that, was lured into match fixing, handed a life

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Speaker 4: ban from All Cricket. Had that band relaxed and is

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Speaker 4: now using his time and energy to educate others to

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Speaker 4: help them avoid the traps he fell into. Lou Vincent

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Speaker 4: with us very shortly. Other matters around today Kiwi squash

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Speaker 4: number one and world number three Paul Cole last weekend

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Speaker 4: became the first New Zealander to win the prestigious Cutter Classic.

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Speaker 4: This weekend he's in Philadelphia for the US Squash Open.

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Speaker 4: He's with US for a chat after one International Rugby

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Speaker 4: League hits Go Media Stadium this afternoon and tonight Kiwei

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Speaker 4: Ferns against some More, followed by the Kiwis against some More.

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Speaker 4: Kiwi's utility Phoenix Crossland is with us this afternoon. Canterbury

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Speaker 4: will host Otago in the NPC Final after dispatching Hawks

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Speaker 4: Bay in their home semi last night. We'll cover that off.

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Speaker 4: New Zealand bred horse Kaying Rising has confirmed his superstar

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Speaker 4: status winning the world's richest race on turf, the twenty

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Speaker 4: million dollar the Everest Race at Randwick. It was bred

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Speaker 4: here in New Zealand by Fraser Oret, who joins US

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Speaker 4: for a chat. Draws for the Phoenix and Auckland FC

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Speaker 4: to start their A League men's football seasons. We'll get

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Speaker 4: some reaction from the two head coaches and the latest

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Speaker 4: from stateside with US sports expertly On Busby, including this

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Speaker 4: absolutely remarkable baseball performance from Shohei O'tani. James mcconey in

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Speaker 4: his regular slot around one forty five as well Live

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Speaker 4: Sport this afternoon in the Heartland Championship. Mitt Canterbury won

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Speaker 4: the Meads Cup yesterday Today it's the Lahure Cup final

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Speaker 4: from five past two North Otago against Holofonuwa Company at

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Speaker 4: mahinaor Rugby Club just south of Uamoru or keep you

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Speaker 4: updated once that game kicks off at two. We would

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Speaker 4: love you to join the show. Oh eight hundred and

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Speaker 4: You can send your texts to nine two nine two

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Speaker 4: emails and to Jason at NEWSTALKSEDB dot co dot Nz

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Speaker 4: nine and a half past midday weekends. For lou Vincent

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Speaker 4: was one of our most explosive, exciting, energetic cricketers. He

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Speaker 4: How like, how high, lou do you think that risk

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Speaker 7: I, I said, you wouldn't believe it.

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Speaker 5: They've told told them the story, and I said, this

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Speaker 5: So so when I do talk to these governing bodies,

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Speaker 5: to reassess life and where we want to get to.

429
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Speaker 5: And you know again that's that's my role in life

430
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Speaker 5: now is to help as many people as I.

431
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Speaker 4: Can just to wrap this low And it's been brilliant

432
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Speaker 4: chatting to you, mate, and you've been so so honest

433
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Speaker 4: and authentic. What is your what is your relationship with

434
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Speaker 4: cricket now?

435
00:23:09,467 --> 00:23:15,747
Speaker 5: You know, very rarely do I reach out to any players.

436
00:23:17,347 --> 00:23:19,307
Speaker 5: You know, I'm grateful for guys I've been McCullum that

437
00:23:19,347 --> 00:23:20,747
Speaker 5: have you know, sort of stood up and had to

438
00:23:20,787 --> 00:23:23,867
Speaker 5: go through, you know, the case with me, and he

439
00:23:23,947 --> 00:23:26,427
Speaker 5: showed support and he's gone on to some pretty great

440
00:23:26,427 --> 00:23:30,187
Speaker 5: achievement Stephen Fleming. You know Daniel Toy last year. You know,

441
00:23:30,747 --> 00:23:34,467
Speaker 5: when I see him, it's great. But you know, will

442
00:23:34,467 --> 00:23:38,427
Speaker 5: I be a coach commentator? Probably not. I'm you know,

443
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Speaker 5: I think I'll just be doing some work behind the scenes.

444
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Speaker 5: But I just want to be a good person to

445
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Speaker 5: my family and the closest around me, so we'll see.

446
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Speaker 5: I'm not forcing anything. I was just letting it organically

447
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Speaker 5: play out.

448
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Speaker 4: No, it's been brilliant getting the chance to chet to you, mate,

449
00:23:55,107 --> 00:23:57,507
Speaker 4: exciting time of head as you as you look forward

450
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Speaker 4: to and your arrival into your life as well and

451
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Speaker 4: become a dad for the fourth time. Yeah again mate,

452
00:24:02,627 --> 00:24:04,867
Speaker 4: I appreciate you. You're being so honest and open with

453
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Speaker 4: us this afternoon.

454
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Speaker 11: Mate.

455
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Speaker 4: I know our listeners have got a lot out of

456
00:24:07,227 --> 00:24:08,627
Speaker 4: it and would have loved hearing from you again.

457
00:24:09,227 --> 00:24:10,947
Speaker 5: Yeah, And like I said that this week, we just

458
00:24:10,947 --> 00:24:12,947
Speaker 5: got to do everything we can to keep a checking

459
00:24:12,947 --> 00:24:16,467
Speaker 5: sport because you know, we just don't want to see

460
00:24:15,827 --> 00:24:18,147
Speaker 5: you see you see anyone go through what I've been

461
00:24:18,147 --> 00:24:20,627
Speaker 5: through and the sport doesn't need it. So yeah, on

462
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Speaker 5: with it upwards. All the best of you, Loo, chet

463
00:24:23,147 --> 00:24:24,707
Speaker 5: Chase and all the best to everybody out there as well.

464
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Speaker 4: Thank you lu Vincent joining us on weekend Sport. Keen

465
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Speaker 4: to get your reaction to what you heard there extended

466
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Speaker 4: in the view. We don't normally chat to guess for

467
00:24:35,067 --> 00:24:38,587
Speaker 4: that long, but but there we are. Eight hundred and

468
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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty. Leuvin since made a mistake, a big one,

469
00:24:43,267 --> 00:24:48,147
Speaker 4: but he owned it. He owned up to it. He

470
00:24:48,187 --> 00:24:51,707
Speaker 4: didn't have to meet with Heath Mills and come clean.

471
00:24:52,427 --> 00:24:53,827
Speaker 4: He could have kept a lit on it, He could

472
00:24:53,867 --> 00:24:55,627
Speaker 4: easily have kept a lid on it, but it was

473
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Speaker 4: clearly eating him up and confessing was what he needed

474
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Speaker 4: to do to find peace, and as a result, he

475
00:25:02,587 --> 00:25:06,507
Speaker 4: was handed the heaviest possible sentence, a life ban from

476
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Speaker 4: the sport that he'd loved his whole life, and what

477
00:25:11,267 --> 00:25:13,947
Speaker 4: he did has affected his life and his livelihood, cost

478
00:25:13,987 --> 00:25:18,427
Speaker 4: him his relationship with his two older daughters. But in

479
00:25:18,427 --> 00:25:20,987
Speaker 4: the words of the man who heard his appeal against

480
00:25:20,987 --> 00:25:24,227
Speaker 4: his life ban, he showed the very highest levels of

481
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Speaker 4: contrition and remorse and the very best efforts to make

482
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Speaker 4: amends wherever possible. Look, lou Vincent can't change the past,

483
00:25:32,907 --> 00:25:34,387
Speaker 4: much as I'm sure he'd love to. We can't turn

484
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Speaker 4: the clock back, but he can react in a positive

485
00:25:37,427 --> 00:25:41,027
Speaker 4: fashion to what's happened. As humans, and I think as Kiwis,

486
00:25:42,147 --> 00:25:46,187
Speaker 4: we admire people who own their mistakes rather than deflect them,

487
00:25:46,227 --> 00:25:49,747
Speaker 4: rather than make excuses, rather than blame everybody else apart

488
00:25:49,827 --> 00:25:53,467
Speaker 4: from themselves. We are all human. None of us is perfect.

489
00:25:55,227 --> 00:25:58,227
Speaker 4: Your thoughts on what you heard from Lou Vincent oh

490
00:25:58,267 --> 00:26:00,027
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty got to get a

491
00:26:00,027 --> 00:26:03,467
Speaker 4: break away twenty seven away from one, Barbara, Jared, please

492
00:26:03,507 --> 00:26:04,667
Speaker 4: hold one a chat to you in a moment. There's

493
00:26:04,667 --> 00:26:07,067
Speaker 4: a spear line for you as well. Eight D eight

494
00:26:06,867 --> 00:26:09,107
Speaker 4: eight back at a moment On Weekend Sport.

495
00:26:09,547 --> 00:26:13,467
Speaker 2: It's more than just a game. Weekend Sport with Jason

496
00:26:13,507 --> 00:26:14,587
Speaker 2: Pine and GJ.

497
00:26:14,787 --> 00:26:18,227
Speaker 1: Gunerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder news Dogs.

498
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Speaker 4: You want to stare, Barbara, I Amy, you're on the

499
00:26:30,387 --> 00:26:32,907
Speaker 4: Air's what's on your mind?

500
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Speaker 12: About eighteen months or so ago, my son was in

501
00:26:38,107 --> 00:26:43,307
Speaker 12: a state of depression and was I'm pretty sure it

502
00:26:43,347 --> 00:26:46,747
Speaker 12: was at Fonanaki. He was walking along the beach and

503
00:26:46,827 --> 00:26:54,547
Speaker 12: he met Lou and Lou when I don't know how

504
00:26:54,587 --> 00:26:58,667
Speaker 12: the conversation started. Whatever it was that Lou said Togere

505
00:26:58,907 --> 00:27:04,667
Speaker 12: to my son had a huge impression and Lou just

506
00:27:04,707 --> 00:27:09,707
Speaker 12: opened up. The positive and positive vibes that my son

507
00:27:09,827 --> 00:27:13,787
Speaker 12: got was and it still is. He often speaks about

508
00:27:13,787 --> 00:27:19,627
Speaker 12: it now. So this was before the I think. I

509
00:27:19,667 --> 00:27:22,147
Speaker 12: don't know how long it was after Lou came back, but.

510
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Speaker 4: It was, Oh, Barbara, we've just lost you. Oh that

511
00:27:26,747 --> 00:27:28,707
Speaker 4: was such a good I wanted to hear more. Barbara,

512
00:27:28,747 --> 00:27:31,307
Speaker 4: please call back. You just dropped off the line there.

513
00:27:31,307 --> 00:27:33,427
Speaker 4: My apologies if it was our end, Please call back.

514
00:27:33,427 --> 00:27:35,067
Speaker 4: I want to hear a bit more about that. Hi, Jared,

515
00:27:37,147 --> 00:27:39,267
Speaker 4: by Pony here you going good, Jared, good?

516
00:27:40,507 --> 00:27:43,987
Speaker 10: That was a shame was as you was enjoying listening

517
00:27:44,027 --> 00:27:47,587
Speaker 10: to the lady's story there. But hopefully we'll get to

518
00:27:47,627 --> 00:27:49,587
Speaker 10: hear the rest of the story later.

519
00:27:51,307 --> 00:27:52,947
Speaker 4: Indeed, well you're on the end now, Jared. What are

520
00:27:52,987 --> 00:27:55,667
Speaker 4: your thoughts on the interview with Hello or on lu Vincent?

521
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Speaker 10: Yeah? Hey, look, Pinney really enjoyed the interview with Lou.

522
00:28:00,547 --> 00:28:04,267
Speaker 10: What a sobering and honest account from Lou. I just

523
00:28:04,347 --> 00:28:08,227
Speaker 10: have so much respect for the guy, what he's been

524
00:28:08,267 --> 00:28:12,467
Speaker 10: through and to where he is today and it was

525
00:28:12,507 --> 00:28:16,667
Speaker 10: interesting to mention the time when he got off the

526
00:28:16,707 --> 00:28:19,147
Speaker 10: money and spoke to his manager and returned it and

527
00:28:19,187 --> 00:28:20,667
Speaker 10: then got approached.

528
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Speaker 4: By Yeah he Jared, just just ar, yeah, just be

529
00:28:23,747 --> 00:28:27,107
Speaker 4: really careful here. But yep, I know I know what

530
00:28:27,147 --> 00:28:28,907
Speaker 4: you're going to say, but yeah, but just be careful

531
00:28:28,947 --> 00:28:32,027
Speaker 4: with in terms of.

532
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Speaker 10: What I won't meant your names yet. No, I'm with

533
00:28:34,627 --> 00:28:37,747
Speaker 10: your pony on that, but yes, we know who that was.

534
00:28:37,787 --> 00:28:41,867
Speaker 10: But Lou mentioned about looking in the mirror. Well, at

535
00:28:41,947 --> 00:28:44,547
Speaker 10: least Lou can look in the mirror today because he

536
00:28:44,587 --> 00:28:46,867
Speaker 10: was honest. And I've always felt that at least he

537
00:28:46,947 --> 00:28:49,907
Speaker 10: came out was honest and you've got to admire that

538
00:28:49,907 --> 00:28:54,507
Speaker 10: that guy for that. And yeah, that was It was

539
00:28:54,507 --> 00:28:59,147
Speaker 10: interesting what he said when he got that moment in

540
00:28:59,227 --> 00:29:02,067
Speaker 10: Canery here with the crowd, and he mentioned it was

541
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Speaker 10: a very powerful moment and I can only imagine the

542
00:29:05,907 --> 00:29:11,787
Speaker 10: relief for him to get some validation for where he

543
00:29:11,987 --> 00:29:15,067
Speaker 10: was at that stage. And I'm sure it meant a

544
00:29:15,067 --> 00:29:15,747
Speaker 10: lot to him.

545
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Speaker 4: Well said Jared. Well said, you're right, because he might

546
00:29:18,867 --> 00:29:20,987
Speaker 4: have had some trepidation, right, he might have had some

547
00:29:21,027 --> 00:29:24,707
Speaker 4: trepidation that when he walked out that you know I'm

548
00:29:24,747 --> 00:29:27,627
Speaker 4: sure he wasn't really one hundred percent certain what the

549
00:29:27,707 --> 00:29:32,547
Speaker 4: reaction would be. And look, I think, as I said,

550
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Speaker 4: and you've expanded on this, I think we all admire

551
00:29:36,987 --> 00:29:39,627
Speaker 4: people who can look in the mirror admit that they've

552
00:29:39,667 --> 00:29:42,547
Speaker 4: made mistakes. I mean, goodness, which of us hasn't, you know,

553
00:29:42,707 --> 00:29:44,427
Speaker 4: most of ours don't play out on the public eye

554
00:29:44,507 --> 00:29:47,547
Speaker 4: like this and cost us our livelihood and big parts

555
00:29:47,587 --> 00:29:51,067
Speaker 4: of our life. But yeah, the contrition and the ownership

556
00:29:51,107 --> 00:29:52,507
Speaker 4: of it, I think is the thing that we admire

557
00:29:52,507 --> 00:29:55,307
Speaker 4: the most. So good on you, mate, great point, well made.

558
00:29:55,347 --> 00:29:57,187
Speaker 4: Hold them. I've got Barbara back on the line. Barbara,

559
00:29:57,187 --> 00:29:59,227
Speaker 4: we lost you just as you were talking about your

560
00:29:59,227 --> 00:30:01,707
Speaker 4: son meeting Lou. Was it a completely chance meeting?

561
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Speaker 12: Absolutely, Gary must captidly be walking on the beach and

562
00:30:08,187 --> 00:30:11,107
Speaker 12: he was working there and in Finaki at the time,

563
00:30:12,547 --> 00:30:16,267
Speaker 12: was just on his one of his walks, and but

564
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Speaker 12: he just opened up to him. And when Gary realized

565
00:30:20,427 --> 00:30:22,467
Speaker 12: who it was, but you know he was talking to,

566
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Speaker 12: and and the honesty and it just it struck and

567
00:30:30,987 --> 00:30:34,347
Speaker 12: has remained with him. He speaks of it often and

568
00:30:34,427 --> 00:30:38,067
Speaker 12: it's and it certainly I think helped him in a

569
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Speaker 12: lot of the decisions that he made since then. Amazing, amazing, man.

570
00:30:44,147 --> 00:30:45,307
Speaker 12: I'm so glad he's back.

571
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Speaker 4: Got on your Barbara, I'm so glad we got you

572
00:30:48,867 --> 00:30:54,147
Speaker 4: back to complete the story. Yeah, just a completely chance

573
00:30:54,267 --> 00:30:59,027
Speaker 4: meeting like that, that that can be a powerful force,

574
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Speaker 4: you know. I mean, I'm sure lu Vincent finds all

575
00:31:02,467 --> 00:31:05,827
Speaker 4: of this cathartic without wanting to get inside his head.

576
00:31:06,027 --> 00:31:10,067
Speaker 4: I'm sure or that he finds it cathartic, the ability

577
00:31:10,107 --> 00:31:13,867
Speaker 4: to tell his story but also to help other people,

578
00:31:13,947 --> 00:31:16,027
Speaker 4: not just people he runs into on the beach, like

579
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Speaker 4: your son, Barbara, but in an official capacity, like the

580
00:31:20,307 --> 00:31:23,587
Speaker 4: conference he's been running with the Victorian police. He was

581
00:31:23,627 --> 00:31:24,867
Speaker 4: telling me in the lead up to the end Ofview,

582
00:31:24,867 --> 00:31:28,467
Speaker 4: they've beenrying get him over there for ages. They see

583
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Speaker 4: his story as a case study, a cautionary tale of

584
00:31:33,947 --> 00:31:35,747
Speaker 4: what can happen, because you know what these things are like.

585
00:31:36,347 --> 00:31:37,787
Speaker 4: Somebody can get up in front of a bunch of

586
00:31:37,787 --> 00:31:42,867
Speaker 4: players or in front of you know, an audience and

587
00:31:42,947 --> 00:31:46,467
Speaker 4: talk about the traps and talk about the you know,

588
00:31:47,467 --> 00:31:50,907
Speaker 4: the things to avoid. But when someone can do it

589
00:31:50,947 --> 00:31:53,547
Speaker 4: from having walked in those shoes, it is so much

590
00:31:53,587 --> 00:31:57,107
Speaker 4: more powerful, so much more powerful. Chris want to chat

591
00:31:57,147 --> 00:31:58,387
Speaker 4: to you in a minute. Please hold there, oh, eight

592
00:31:58,507 --> 00:32:00,267
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty. We're going to talk a

593
00:32:00,347 --> 00:32:02,907
Speaker 4: bit more about Lou. Between now and one o'clock eighteen

594
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Speaker 4: and a half to one us talk said.

595
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Speaker 1: Be the tough Questions of a weekend sport with Jason

596
00:32:08,707 --> 00:32:12,947
Speaker 1: Tyne and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

597
00:32:14,747 --> 00:32:16,987
Speaker 4: Coming up quarter to one. Paul Cole on the show

598
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Speaker 4: after one o'clock we're talking about chat with Lou. Vince

599
00:32:19,587 --> 00:32:20,747
Speaker 4: and Chris. Appreciate your holding.

600
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Speaker 8: Good afternoon, you, good afternoon, finey Hey, look congratulations mate.

601
00:32:25,547 --> 00:32:30,867
Speaker 8: That that was one of the best interviews. You know

602
00:32:31,907 --> 00:32:36,747
Speaker 8: there were sportsman on issues other than playing sport that

603
00:32:36,787 --> 00:32:38,827
Speaker 8: I've heard, And look, I applaud you for the way

604
00:32:38,827 --> 00:32:41,147
Speaker 8: that you just let him go, you know, and and

605
00:32:41,707 --> 00:32:42,267
Speaker 8: get it out.

606
00:32:42,827 --> 00:32:43,427
Speaker 4: Thanks, Chris.

607
00:32:44,867 --> 00:32:48,587
Speaker 8: I mean, look, gee, look man, he was a great

608
00:32:48,587 --> 00:32:49,347
Speaker 8: cricket to watch.

609
00:32:50,507 --> 00:32:53,307
Speaker 4: Just thinking, sorry Chris, just I did butt in there,

610
00:32:53,307 --> 00:32:55,587
Speaker 4: but I was thinking exactly that during the heir break.

611
00:32:55,627 --> 00:32:58,147
Speaker 4: You know, he used to absolutely smash it, didn't he.

612
00:32:58,187 --> 00:32:59,347
Speaker 4: I sill love watching him bat.

613
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and look, listen, he was a good He would

614
00:33:03,587 --> 00:33:07,947
Speaker 8: have been probably one of our test o't the investment. Look,

615
00:33:08,027 --> 00:33:10,707
Speaker 8: look he I remember that test, you know, and that

616
00:33:10,827 --> 00:33:15,067
Speaker 8: was probably one of four at least the Australian umpires

617
00:33:15,067 --> 00:33:15,667
Speaker 8: cost us.

618
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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, yes, that's so true, Chris.

619
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Speaker 8: I mean and not he never walked, is Gleasbie should

620
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Speaker 8: have walked?

621
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Speaker 13: Yeah?

622
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Speaker 8: I mean he he did everything he could and on

623
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Speaker 8: debut against the best pace attack in the world and

624
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Speaker 8: the best spin bowler to set up a victory for

625
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Speaker 8: New Zealand. So you know, like yeah, and as you say,

626
00:33:39,587 --> 00:33:41,307
Speaker 8: I liked it tear wise when he walked out of

627
00:33:41,347 --> 00:33:44,907
Speaker 8: Hagley in January, you know, for that rugby first cricket match.

628
00:33:45,587 --> 00:33:49,867
Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, he's been to some dark places, it's obvious,

629
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Speaker 4: but you know, redemption is available I think to people

630
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Speaker 4: who who who show contrition, who owned their mistakes, and look,

631
00:33:57,467 --> 00:34:00,267
Speaker 4: there's I'm sure even if he did say during the

632
00:34:00,307 --> 00:34:02,587
Speaker 4: interview like he wouldn't change anything, I'm sure he would.

633
00:34:02,747 --> 00:34:04,747
Speaker 4: I'm sure if he went back and could go back

634
00:34:04,747 --> 00:34:07,987
Speaker 4: in time and not not be lured, and I'm sure

635
00:34:07,987 --> 00:34:10,747
Speaker 4: that he would take that that that option, because he

636
00:34:10,787 --> 00:34:14,387
Speaker 4: went to some pretty dark places after that. But now

637
00:34:14,427 --> 00:34:16,227
Speaker 4: that he's done it, you can't change it like any

638
00:34:16,227 --> 00:34:18,107
Speaker 4: of us, Chris, you know, you just have to act

639
00:34:18,187 --> 00:34:22,667
Speaker 4: positively in in a forward moving manner that day, like

640
00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:25,307
Speaker 4: isn't that wasn't a great story, how he was. He

641
00:34:25,427 --> 00:34:28,307
Speaker 4: was quite excited that Steve Ward knew his name. I

642
00:34:28,307 --> 00:34:30,867
Speaker 4: thought that he wanted to get its straight.

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Speaker 8: And when he wanted to get in an autograph and

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Speaker 8: and and when he looked out in the field, there

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Speaker 8: was there was there was no idea done at the

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Speaker 8: bottle in front of the worker.

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Speaker 4: That's right, well, I mean that see, and that was

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Speaker 4: the Australian team at that time. You know, you look

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Speaker 4: at that team and I mentioned the bowling Attap, McGrath, Gillespie,

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Speaker 4: Lee and Warren, but the others and that he's there,

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Speaker 4: he's their team, Langer and Hayden, opening, Ponting, Mark Wore,

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Speaker 4: Steve Ward, Damien Martin, Adam Gilchrist at seven and then

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Speaker 4: Warn Lee, Gillespie, McGrath. That is a generational team of cricketers.

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Speaker 8: And we nearly we nearly Fiming made surprised delcerate declaration

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Speaker 8: at in Brisbane and nearly pulled off a win there

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Speaker 8: in the first Test. So look, hey, just one other

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Speaker 8: thing before I go, look, I know that I know

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Speaker 8: that we've got there's a twenty twenty World Cup going

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Speaker 8: coming up, and I know that Australia, a few Australian

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Speaker 8: and those English players that have come out here of

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Speaker 8: these twenty twenties are involved in the Ashes next month.

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Speaker 8: But fago, it is such an absolute dumb idea to

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Speaker 8: risk playing cricket in New Zealand and October, which is

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Speaker 8: traditionally our wed this month.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a shame, isn't it. Chris So, I started

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Speaker 4: watching that game last night thought, oh, it looks like

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Speaker 4: down there. I had and checked the forecast or anything,

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Speaker 4: and look, I you know, I love all kinds of cricket.

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Speaker 4: I taest Cricket's my favorite, obviously, but I love watching

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Speaker 4: any kind of cricket. But yeah, it just it's just

671
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Speaker 4: like to you know, pardon the pun, but it just

672
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Speaker 4: put a whole temper on it, didn't it. You know

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Speaker 4: the fact that it was raining and we didn't get

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Speaker 4: to bad. Hopefully it'll be better. I think they Plagugain

675
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Speaker 4: tomorrow night, don't they. So hopefully it's so they do

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Speaker 4: they do.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it was unfortunate. I was down and

678
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Speaker 8: with canby last weekend and it was twenty sixth and

679
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Speaker 8: christis on the sad day, you know, twenty twenty eight

680
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Speaker 8: nxt bird, you know for the seventy five of the

681
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Speaker 8: part of the cup. So you know, so yeah, so

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Speaker 8: hopefully I mean, and they got the third one in Orphan.

683
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Speaker 8: Well that's always going to be a risk.

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Speaker 4: In it at least if if it's no good, you

685
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Speaker 4: just wait an hour up there, Chris and it just

686
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Speaker 4: changes to something of it. Better good to chat to

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Speaker 4: you mate. Things indeed, Yeah, that that test lou Vincent's

688
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Speaker 4: Test Daboo at the whack of the third Test in

689
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Speaker 4: the two thousand and one series, and New Zealand needed

690
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Speaker 4: to win that test to square the series. It ended

691
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Speaker 4: in a drawer, but New Zilla won the toss and

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Speaker 4: batted Mark Richardson and Louvinsent opened the batting. As I

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Speaker 4: said to lou Vincent, Mark Richardson got out in the

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Speaker 4: sixth over. It was twelve for one at that point.

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Speaker 4: Luvinson still hadn't scored a run after six overs on

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Speaker 4: his test debut, getting all sorts of jib no doubt

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Speaker 4: from some of those Australians I just mentioned Matthew Sinclair

698
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Speaker 4: came in at three and quickly went so they were

699
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Speaker 4: nineteen for two at the end of the seventh over.

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Speaker 4: But then it all turned around. Stephen Fleming came out

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Speaker 4: and he and Leeuvince and both scored centuries, as did

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Speaker 4: Nathan Astaal one hundred and fifty six not out and

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Speaker 4: then for good measure Adam Perrori also got a ton

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Speaker 4: one hundred and ten five point thirty four for nine declared.

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Speaker 4: New Zealand got Australia all out three fifty one. New

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Speaker 4: Zealand and their second and He's two fifty six for

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Speaker 4: nine declared. Luvinton got fifty in editings as well, top

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Speaker 4: scored in the second innings and then Australia three point

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Speaker 4: eighty one for seven. And there was a very controversial

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Speaker 4: incident where it looked as though Jason Gillespie had gloved

711
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Speaker 4: a ball down the leg side to New Zealand wicket

712
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Speaker 4: keeper Adam Perori, but it wasn't given. Those of them

713
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Speaker 4: must be in two thousand and one, the days before

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Speaker 4: DRS and they got away with the drawer and a

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Speaker 4: series win. But it was a pretty famous Test match

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Speaker 4: and the first four Lleuvinson a couple of texts to

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Speaker 4: get through before we go to a break. Amazing interview.

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Speaker 4: Jason embe choked up, didn't seek to hide behind anyone.

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Speaker 4: Was great that you had leu on. Thank you, Peter.

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Speaker 4: Great interview. Everyone deserves a second chance. He's paid for

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Speaker 4: so much, but he has allowed another chance. Anthony says, personally,

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Speaker 4: I always thought of life ban was a bloody tough

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Speaker 4: sentence for a man who came clean by himself when

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Speaker 4: he could have said nothing. That was a brave thing

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Speaker 4: to do. Good luck to him, Mass says Piney. I'm

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Speaker 4: struggling to forgive because I'm a massive sports fan in

727
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Speaker 4: all sports, and when I watch games, I want to

728
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Speaker 4: know that they are playing to their full potential. And

729
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Speaker 4: finding out later they've either used performance in ancing drugs

730
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Speaker 4: or throwing games for money destroys any hope I have

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Speaker 4: about what as a fan I'm doing watching them. But

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Speaker 4: Lou came across well and I hope to one day

733
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Speaker 4: shake his hand must I'm sure he'd love to shake

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Speaker 4: yours as well. Pinty. One of the things I found

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Speaker 4: interesting was that it was someone he knew that hooked

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Speaker 4: him in. Hope things go well for him in the

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Speaker 4: rest of his life, and Robin says, I love the

738
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Speaker 4: part about Sir Richard Hadley handing over Lou's cap for

739
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Speaker 4: his one hundred one day Internationals and how everyone thought

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Speaker 4: very high of Sir Richard and Sir Richard wanted to

741
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Speaker 4: make that presentation. Yeah, that was really cool. That was

742
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Speaker 4: really cool. Eight and a half to one US talks

743
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Speaker 4: B back in a moment.

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Speaker 2: When it's down to the line.

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Speaker 1: You made a call on eight hundred ten eighty Weekend

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Speaker 1: Sports with Jason Hine News Talks.

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Speaker 4: B five to one. Piney. Yet two thousand and one

748
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Speaker 4: was a drawn series, not a loss for New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: The last test was for us to win it. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, my profuse apologies. Three tests, all draws in Brisbane,

751
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Speaker 4: in Hobart and at the Whacker. So yes, we would

752
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Speaker 4: have won the series had we managed to clinch that

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Speaker 4: third test at the Whacker. Thank you for pointing that out. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I don't quite know why I thought that it was

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Speaker 4: a lost test series. I guess I just kind of

756
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Speaker 4: assume that when we go to Australia we don't win

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Speaker 4: very often, which is true. But no, no, a drawn series.

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Speaker 4: Three test matches, all draws, Catherine says, Levin's an amazing interview,

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Speaker 4: so much more than Sport been looking forward to hearing it.

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Speaker 4: It did not disappoint I don't normally listen to it Sport.

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Speaker 4: That was really great, Catherine. Thank you. If you can

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Speaker 4: dip in just for an interview like that, then we're

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Speaker 4: happy to have you along for any of the any

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Speaker 4: of the time that you can spare us. If you

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Speaker 4: did miss our chat with lou Vincent, it will be

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Speaker 4: online very shortly at newstalk SHADB dot co dot Nz

767
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Speaker 4: or via iHeartRadio if you would like to find it

768
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Speaker 4: if you heard it, or and you want to listen

769
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Speaker 4: back or did not hear it. Yeah, one of the

770
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Speaker 4: more insightful interviews I think I've done in recent times.

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Speaker 4: It'll be on News TALKSAB dot co dot Nz or iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 4: Just search Weekend Sport with Jason Pine and it'll pop

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Speaker 4: up there. I don't think it's quite online yet. Our

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Speaker 4: online team are working away to get it up there,

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Speaker 4: but very soon it will be. So thank You've raw

776
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Speaker 4: your calls and your feedback on our interview with lou

777
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Speaker 4: Vincent's coming up towards the one o'clock news after one.

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Speaker 4: I want a chat to Paul Cole. He went through

779
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Speaker 4: a bit of a dark time, nothing like Louvin Vincent

780
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Speaker 4: went through. But he lost to a player ranked in

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Speaker 4: the two hundred and fifties in the world. He's number

782
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Speaker 4: three in the world in a tournament in London not

783
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Speaker 4: that long ago. But he bounced back and won the

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Speaker 4: Cutter Classic. So how rewarding was that? James mcconey after

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Speaker 4: one o'clock as well, and we'll break down last night's

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Speaker 4: rug before you as well.

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Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

788
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Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport

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Speaker 1: News Talk, said.

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Speaker 4: B, Hello there, and welcome, welcome in or welcome back in,

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Speaker 4: as the case may be. One seven. I'm Jason Pine.

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Speaker 4: This is Weekend Sport on News Talk. Said B. Had

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Speaker 4: a number of people inquire about the Louvevents and interview.

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Speaker 4: It is now online. If you'd like to listen back

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Speaker 4: or like to listen for the first time. Jenny says,

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Speaker 4: I've just tuned in. I'll go and listen to Luvins

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Speaker 4: And now, by the way, have you acknowledged Hayden Wilde. Yes,

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Speaker 4: we well we have, Jenny, and what he has done

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Speaker 4: is it's utterly incredible. If you haven't caught up with

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Speaker 4: Hayden Wilde's latest exploits, well it is no surprise, I'm

802
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Speaker 4: sure to you that he has won another one of

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Speaker 4: these T one hundred World Tour races, his fifth and

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Speaker 4: a row, his fifth and a row at the latest

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Speaker 4: event in Woollongong, and he won it by miles. He

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Speaker 4: won it by miles. It wasn't in anybody else in

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Speaker 4: the picture as he was coming towards the finish line.

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Speaker 4: Now he's going to look at backing it up in

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Speaker 4: the Olympic Distance World Triathlon Championship Series final, and I

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Speaker 4: believe that is tonight. I believe that's tonight. Does that

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Speaker 4: sound right what it's written here? And I can only

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Speaker 4: only believe what our sports news team have provided us.

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Speaker 4: So yes, Jenny, thank you, But yeah, hay and wild

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Speaker 4: will keep eyes on how he goes in the Olympic

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Speaker 4: Distance World Triathlon champ Series Final.

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Speaker 6: This hour.

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Speaker 4: James mcconey is along in his regular slot. We should

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Speaker 4: acknowledge Canterbury, shouldn't we into the NPC final not only

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Speaker 4: into it, we'll host it after they're rather comfortable win

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Speaker 4: over Hawks Bay. And when I say comfortable, well it

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Speaker 4: was in the end. But at halftime I wondered whether

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Speaker 4: we might have the Magpies cause a bit of an upset.

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Speaker 4: They were only behind by fifteen points to fourteen at

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Speaker 4: the break. The Canterbury stretched their legs in the second

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Speaker 4: half and one at forty three nineteen. I'll tell you

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Speaker 4: who I felt for was our winner on a sporting

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Speaker 4: chance yesterday. He rang in Ivan I think his name was,

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Speaker 4: It was Ivan. He rang in and we gave him

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Speaker 4: the option of the three bets, as we normally do,

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Speaker 4: and he chose the long option, which was for Hawks

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Speaker 4: Bay to be winning at halftime and Canterbury to be

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Speaker 4: winning at full time. Well, if he's only a point

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Speaker 4: or so away, wasn't he? If only Hawk's Bay had

834
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Speaker 4: been fifteen fourteen ahead and Canterbury won the game, he

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Speaker 4: would have won something like nine hundred dollars. Unfortunately not

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Speaker 4: to be. Unfortunately not to be kiw Swash number one

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Speaker 4: and world number three Paul Cole back in the winner's circle.

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Speaker 14: Paul so many occasions he last started twenty nineteen and

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Speaker 14: some more previous finals, but he's won in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 10: Here.

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Speaker 4: Last weekend, Paul Cole became the first New Zealander to

842
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Speaker 4: win the prestigious Cutter Classic, beating Egyptian world number one

843
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Speaker 4: mis stuff for Aussaal eleven nine six eleven eleven eight

844
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Speaker 4: eleven five in the final. It was his first major

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Speaker 4: PSA title since winning the Hong Kong Open in December

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, and his first win over Mustaffa Aussal

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Speaker 4: in their last seven meetings. He has relocated to Philadelphia,

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Speaker 4: where this weekend he is underway in the US Squash Open,

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Speaker 4: where he is the second seed, but he's taken time

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Speaker 4: to join us. Paul, thanks for taking the time. What

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Speaker 4: a win for you and Cutter congratulations mate, How significant

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Speaker 4: and pleasing victory was that for you?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, chairs mate, it was very a very rewarding victory.

854
00:45:12,787 --> 00:45:15,227
Speaker 13: I felt like I, you know, started the season in

855
00:45:15,307 --> 00:45:18,427
Speaker 13: pretty good shape and I felt like I've been playing

856
00:45:18,427 --> 00:45:20,507
Speaker 13: well for quite a few months now, but it was

857
00:45:20,547 --> 00:45:22,867
Speaker 13: just sort of piecing it together and tournament play and

858
00:45:22,907 --> 00:45:26,587
Speaker 13: getting those performances that requires back to back to beat

859
00:45:26,747 --> 00:45:28,867
Speaker 13: you know, a few top guys in a road to

860
00:45:28,907 --> 00:45:31,947
Speaker 13: win those those big events. So I've actually, like I said,

861
00:45:31,947 --> 00:45:34,267
Speaker 13: been confident my game for a while. So yeah, just

862
00:45:34,307 --> 00:45:38,027
Speaker 13: happy I managed to turn up and deliver a performance

863
00:45:38,027 --> 00:45:40,867
Speaker 13: that I was proud of and you know, managed to

864
00:45:40,867 --> 00:45:41,627
Speaker 13: walk away the title.

865
00:45:41,707 --> 00:45:44,267
Speaker 15: So yeah, it was very rewarding when that one.

866
00:45:44,147 --> 00:45:47,707
Speaker 4: Thinks, how do you manage yourself across a tournament? Because

867
00:45:47,787 --> 00:45:49,787
Speaker 4: it's not out of course they've got to win every game,

868
00:45:49,867 --> 00:45:51,707
Speaker 4: but do you have to leave some gas in the

869
00:45:51,747 --> 00:45:54,547
Speaker 4: tank for the big games at the at the business

870
00:45:54,627 --> 00:45:55,467
Speaker 4: end of the tournament.

871
00:45:56,587 --> 00:45:57,467
Speaker 15: I think definitely.

872
00:45:59,027 --> 00:46:01,187
Speaker 13: What I sort of learned is not to get too

873
00:46:01,267 --> 00:46:04,747
Speaker 13: wrapped up of my first couple of rounds is not

874
00:46:05,187 --> 00:46:07,907
Speaker 13: you know, not exactly how I wanted to play, or

875
00:46:07,947 --> 00:46:09,667
Speaker 13: there's a few things I could work on, you know,

876
00:46:10,027 --> 00:46:12,387
Speaker 13: sometimes that would knock my confidence a bit back in

877
00:46:12,427 --> 00:46:15,267
Speaker 13: the day, but you know, just not to Obviously, you

878
00:46:15,267 --> 00:46:17,707
Speaker 13: can need to peek back in the tournaments when you

879
00:46:17,707 --> 00:46:20,587
Speaker 13: want to win these. So if you're not one hundred

880
00:46:20,587 --> 00:46:22,547
Speaker 13: percent in the early rounds, but you're getting the job

881
00:46:22,587 --> 00:46:24,627
Speaker 13: done and you're getting the win, then yeah, I've sort

882
00:46:24,627 --> 00:46:26,187
Speaker 13: of learned not to get too caught up in that.

883
00:46:26,307 --> 00:46:28,587
Speaker 15: Obviously, analyze it, work.

884
00:46:28,507 --> 00:46:31,347
Speaker 13: You know, think of things that I can get better,

885
00:46:31,467 --> 00:46:34,587
Speaker 13: but not let it affect my confidence too much, because yeah,

886
00:46:34,667 --> 00:46:38,547
Speaker 13: to operate, you know, five matches to one hundred percent's

887
00:46:39,067 --> 00:46:39,667
Speaker 13: going to be tough.

888
00:46:39,707 --> 00:46:42,027
Speaker 15: So yeah, it's about trying to get the best out.

889
00:46:41,907 --> 00:46:43,547
Speaker 13: Of you in those finals times, which you know, I

890
00:46:43,627 --> 00:46:45,947
Speaker 13: feel like I've I've got a bit better at doing

891
00:46:46,867 --> 00:46:49,547
Speaker 13: in my older years. But yeah, it's definitely something that

892
00:46:50,347 --> 00:46:52,707
Speaker 13: I mean, you could definitely play well all four rounds,

893
00:46:52,747 --> 00:46:54,707
Speaker 13: but it's more than if you're doing that. It's not

894
00:46:54,987 --> 00:46:58,467
Speaker 13: not panic stations or you know, anything to worry about

895
00:46:58,467 --> 00:46:58,907
Speaker 13: too much.

896
00:46:59,187 --> 00:47:01,787
Speaker 4: Mustafa Asyl the world number one. He's been a fairly

897
00:47:01,827 --> 00:47:05,107
Speaker 4: regular opponent for you. Now you've beaten him seven times.

898
00:47:05,747 --> 00:47:09,227
Speaker 4: What do you have to do particularly well to beat him?

899
00:47:10,147 --> 00:47:13,907
Speaker 13: Yeah, a lot of of him as comes down to execution.

900
00:47:14,067 --> 00:47:18,507
Speaker 13: I think if I execute my game plan and you know,

901
00:47:18,587 --> 00:47:19,907
Speaker 13: keep the ball out of the middle of the court,

902
00:47:19,907 --> 00:47:23,307
Speaker 13: then I'm very confident. But he's so good that if

903
00:47:23,347 --> 00:47:26,067
Speaker 13: you sort of leave the ball in the middle of

904
00:47:26,107 --> 00:47:27,827
Speaker 13: the court or you give him an opening, he's very

905
00:47:27,867 --> 00:47:30,907
Speaker 13: good at finishing the ball or straight away. You know,

906
00:47:30,947 --> 00:47:34,947
Speaker 13: he doesn't really miss many opportunities. So I mean, you know,

907
00:47:34,947 --> 00:47:38,147
Speaker 13: if you sort of start a bit slow, and you know,

908
00:47:38,187 --> 00:47:40,307
Speaker 13: you give him four or five opportunities and you can

909
00:47:40,347 --> 00:47:42,267
Speaker 13: be four or five love down before you even know

910
00:47:42,347 --> 00:47:44,907
Speaker 13: it type thing. So a lot of of him, I

911
00:47:44,987 --> 00:47:47,867
Speaker 13: find his execution and I sort of know how to

912
00:47:47,907 --> 00:47:48,307
Speaker 13: play him.

913
00:47:48,347 --> 00:47:49,827
Speaker 15: I feel pretty cold from the game.

914
00:47:49,667 --> 00:47:51,787
Speaker 13: Plan, but like I said, you know, you can get

915
00:47:51,787 --> 00:47:54,467
Speaker 13: away with missing a few targets against some guys, but

916
00:47:54,547 --> 00:47:56,467
Speaker 13: with him, he seems to have a really good ability

917
00:47:56,547 --> 00:47:59,987
Speaker 13: to put the ball away straight away. So yeah, a

918
00:47:59,987 --> 00:48:02,947
Speaker 13: lot of it comes down to just, yeah, being very disciplined,

919
00:48:03,027 --> 00:48:05,827
Speaker 13: very focused, and very aware of what's going on. You know,

920
00:48:05,827 --> 00:48:08,387
Speaker 13: if I miss my target once, don't let it happen

921
00:48:08,827 --> 00:48:10,947
Speaker 13: three or four times in a row and let it

922
00:48:10,987 --> 00:48:13,627
Speaker 13: snowball on me. So which I think has definitely happened

923
00:48:13,667 --> 00:48:17,027
Speaker 13: in the past, you know, playing him, So again, it's

924
00:48:17,067 --> 00:48:20,307
Speaker 13: just staying mentally focused and calm throughout the whole match

925
00:48:20,347 --> 00:48:22,547
Speaker 13: and just knowing exactly what I want to do which

926
00:48:22,787 --> 00:48:26,267
Speaker 13: and then just executing, which I mean sounds easy than

927
00:48:26,307 --> 00:48:30,467
Speaker 13: it is sometimes. But yeah, like I said, I'm very

928
00:48:30,507 --> 00:48:32,547
Speaker 13: confident if I played well that I can beat them.

929
00:48:32,547 --> 00:48:36,707
Speaker 13: It's just yeah, getting those performances more regularly in finals times.

930
00:48:37,387 --> 00:48:40,467
Speaker 4: You won the London Classic in early September, but then

931
00:48:40,587 --> 00:48:43,467
Speaker 4: a week later at the Egyptian Open, you lost to

932
00:48:43,787 --> 00:48:48,627
Speaker 4: world number two hundred and fifty two Adam Hawaal. What

933
00:48:48,787 --> 00:48:49,307
Speaker 4: happened that.

934
00:48:49,347 --> 00:48:56,027
Speaker 13: Day, Yeah, I mean I was very frustrated myself after that.

935
00:48:57,027 --> 00:49:02,067
Speaker 13: Definitely let a big opportunity slip and just didn't prepare.

936
00:49:03,427 --> 00:49:03,827
Speaker 15: Fully.

937
00:49:04,467 --> 00:49:07,787
Speaker 13: And I mean I just I just took a few

938
00:49:07,787 --> 00:49:11,587
Speaker 13: things lightly, which you know, which I was definitely the

939
00:49:11,627 --> 00:49:14,867
Speaker 13: most frustrated at because you know, what I hold myself

940
00:49:14,907 --> 00:49:18,307
Speaker 13: to and my values is a lot about professionalism and

941
00:49:18,787 --> 00:49:21,667
Speaker 13: turning up one hundred percent every time. And I mean

942
00:49:21,707 --> 00:49:24,347
Speaker 13: I definitely, I definitely was there, but there's a lot

943
00:49:24,347 --> 00:49:26,147
Speaker 13: of things on the day that just went against me,

944
00:49:26,187 --> 00:49:28,187
Speaker 13: and it was one of those days where it just

945
00:49:28,707 --> 00:49:30,507
Speaker 13: I still don't even know how I lost the match,

946
00:49:30,547 --> 00:49:33,227
Speaker 13: to be honest, It's just the ref went against me.

947
00:49:33,547 --> 00:49:35,587
Speaker 13: Everything just seemed to go against me that day, and

948
00:49:35,587 --> 00:49:37,867
Speaker 13: it was just like the perfect storm to lose, and

949
00:49:38,587 --> 00:49:40,507
Speaker 13: my coach, you know, told me not to even worry

950
00:49:40,547 --> 00:49:43,707
Speaker 13: about it. Basically, it's one of those things that you know,

951
00:49:43,867 --> 00:49:46,787
Speaker 13: we didn't even analyze, really we analyzed, you know, the

952
00:49:46,867 --> 00:49:49,267
Speaker 13: preparation and stuff, but the match itself, it was just

953
00:49:49,267 --> 00:49:51,947
Speaker 13: sort of one of those perfect storms. And he said, look,

954
00:49:52,147 --> 00:49:54,747
Speaker 13: I mean, we don't normally do this, but just forget

955
00:49:54,787 --> 00:49:57,227
Speaker 13: about it, Like it was so bad that it's not

956
00:49:57,307 --> 00:50:00,707
Speaker 13: worth trying to learn too much from. So yeah, it

957
00:50:00,747 --> 00:50:03,387
Speaker 13: was pretty tough though, you know, I went home and

958
00:50:03,587 --> 00:50:07,387
Speaker 13: did some you know, deep thinking and to get myself

959
00:50:07,387 --> 00:50:09,587
Speaker 13: back to competition level a week later.

960
00:50:09,627 --> 00:50:12,067
Speaker 15: It was a lot of workmen into it, which made

961
00:50:12,107 --> 00:50:13,507
Speaker 15: the victory even sweeter.

962
00:50:13,627 --> 00:50:15,147
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looked like it because there was a lot

963
00:50:15,187 --> 00:50:17,867
Speaker 4: of emotion. I know, you win tournaments, you're you're very happy,

964
00:50:17,907 --> 00:50:20,187
Speaker 4: but there was a lot of emotion when you won

965
00:50:20,267 --> 00:50:24,107
Speaker 4: that match. Was the winning Qatar even more special. Having

966
00:50:24,147 --> 00:50:27,227
Speaker 4: rebounded from that disappointment in Egypt.

967
00:50:28,427 --> 00:50:32,707
Speaker 13: I mate hugely rewarding, just just bouncing back.

968
00:50:32,747 --> 00:50:32,947
Speaker 10: You know.

969
00:50:32,987 --> 00:50:36,067
Speaker 13: I was actually very very nervous obviously in the first

970
00:50:36,067 --> 00:50:36,667
Speaker 13: couple of rounds.

971
00:50:36,987 --> 00:50:38,267
Speaker 15: You know, tough, tough draw.

972
00:50:38,387 --> 00:50:43,307
Speaker 13: So I was, yeah, I was shit scared, mate, to

973
00:50:43,347 --> 00:50:47,747
Speaker 13: be honest, to go out in another first round because

974
00:50:47,747 --> 00:50:49,867
Speaker 13: I was playing a guy who I could have lost

975
00:50:49,867 --> 00:50:51,747
Speaker 13: to quite easily first round.

976
00:50:51,867 --> 00:50:55,147
Speaker 15: He was at a very tough draw. So to get through,

977
00:50:55,267 --> 00:50:58,187
Speaker 15: like I was. I was, you know, I was scared, mate.

978
00:50:58,867 --> 00:51:02,147
Speaker 13: So to to bounce back, get through those matches and

979
00:51:02,147 --> 00:51:04,267
Speaker 13: then build into you know, the best performance I've put

980
00:51:04,307 --> 00:51:05,907
Speaker 13: in and the year was super rewarding.

981
00:51:05,987 --> 00:51:08,067
Speaker 15: And just went in the week before, you know, it

982
00:51:08,107 --> 00:51:09,747
Speaker 15: was a tough week for me.

983
00:51:09,947 --> 00:51:12,507
Speaker 13: I put myself through the ring and just to you know,

984
00:51:12,587 --> 00:51:13,947
Speaker 13: get my head in the right space.

985
00:51:13,987 --> 00:51:14,947
Speaker 15: So yeah, it took a lot.

986
00:51:14,867 --> 00:51:17,627
Speaker 13: Of effort, and like I said, just to turn out

987
00:51:17,627 --> 00:51:19,707
Speaker 13: a performance like that a week later, I was very

988
00:51:19,747 --> 00:51:22,307
Speaker 13: proud of myself to do that. And obviously winning is

989
00:51:22,427 --> 00:51:25,187
Speaker 13: a you know, everyone wants to do that, but just

990
00:51:25,187 --> 00:51:28,027
Speaker 13: to turn up and operate at my best, I was

991
00:51:28,107 --> 00:51:29,187
Speaker 13: very proud of myself for that.

992
00:51:30,107 --> 00:51:32,747
Speaker 4: You've been in the world's top ten now for over

993
00:51:32,787 --> 00:51:35,027
Speaker 4: a decade. You've been in the top five for the

994
00:51:35,107 --> 00:51:38,547
Speaker 4: last six years. How much has your game changed over

995
00:51:38,587 --> 00:51:39,067
Speaker 4: that time.

996
00:51:40,267 --> 00:51:43,387
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean it's to be honest, that sounds crazy

997
00:51:43,387 --> 00:51:46,587
Speaker 13: to me to think about, but yeah, I mean my

998
00:51:46,907 --> 00:51:50,747
Speaker 13: game's still evolving. You know, as we speak at something

999
00:51:50,787 --> 00:51:54,067
Speaker 13: I enjoy about being an athlete, being able to constantly

1000
00:51:54,787 --> 00:51:57,227
Speaker 13: look for areas to improve yourself. I think that's, you know,

1001
00:51:57,347 --> 00:51:58,987
Speaker 13: one of the joys I get out of being an

1002
00:51:58,987 --> 00:52:02,827
Speaker 13: athlete is just constantly evaluating how we can get better

1003
00:52:02,867 --> 00:52:07,627
Speaker 13: and learning and learning new tricks, learning new fitness things,

1004
00:52:07,667 --> 00:52:08,387
Speaker 13: mental things.

1005
00:52:09,067 --> 00:52:10,627
Speaker 15: There's just so many doors to open.

1006
00:52:10,667 --> 00:52:10,707
Speaker 16: It.

1007
00:52:11,387 --> 00:52:15,307
Speaker 13: It's what I find the most exciting about being an athlete,

1008
00:52:15,347 --> 00:52:17,307
Speaker 13: Like I said, and I sort of lost that when

1009
00:52:17,307 --> 00:52:19,707
Speaker 13: I went to one, a lot of things got result focused.

1010
00:52:19,787 --> 00:52:23,027
Speaker 13: So just taking my learnings from that and even if

1011
00:52:23,027 --> 00:52:25,107
Speaker 13: I get back to you know, two or one in

1012
00:52:25,147 --> 00:52:26,747
Speaker 13: the world, then just to sort of keep that same

1013
00:52:26,787 --> 00:52:29,667
Speaker 13: mindset of operating at the top, but you know, never

1014
00:52:29,707 --> 00:52:32,147
Speaker 13: being satisfied and just trying to trying to get better

1015
00:52:32,187 --> 00:52:32,627
Speaker 13: every day.

1016
00:52:33,027 --> 00:52:35,987
Speaker 4: So did being world number one almost in some ways

1017
00:52:36,027 --> 00:52:37,547
Speaker 4: become a bit of a burden to you?

1018
00:52:40,267 --> 00:52:40,427
Speaker 15: Yes?

1019
00:52:40,507 --> 00:52:40,707
Speaker 5: And no.

1020
00:52:41,147 --> 00:52:43,907
Speaker 13: I think it was the best time in my life.

1021
00:52:43,987 --> 00:52:47,547
Speaker 13: I mean I still pinch myself. You know, I'm great

1022
00:52:47,587 --> 00:52:50,747
Speaker 13: mates with Israel Dag now, which is you know, someone

1023
00:52:50,747 --> 00:52:52,347
Speaker 13: who I grew up watching as an All Black and

1024
00:52:52,387 --> 00:52:55,187
Speaker 13: a massive fanboy of them, and you know, now we're

1025
00:52:55,187 --> 00:52:58,867
Speaker 13: good mates and just stuff like that was very overwhelming.

1026
00:52:59,067 --> 00:53:03,267
Speaker 13: I think for me it was pretty surreal to be

1027
00:53:03,347 --> 00:53:05,587
Speaker 13: able to, you know, pick up the phone and call

1028
00:53:05,667 --> 00:53:08,707
Speaker 13: someone like that. And I think it just got a

1029
00:53:08,707 --> 00:53:10,267
Speaker 13: lot to me, and it was sort of got a

1030
00:53:10,267 --> 00:53:13,067
Speaker 13: lot results based. You know, obviously when you get to

1031
00:53:13,107 --> 00:53:15,027
Speaker 13: the top, it's like you're getting all this stuff thrown

1032
00:53:15,067 --> 00:53:17,387
Speaker 13: at you and you sort of don't want it to

1033
00:53:17,427 --> 00:53:18,867
Speaker 13: stop and you think, you know, you just got to

1034
00:53:18,947 --> 00:53:21,267
Speaker 13: keep winning for that stuff to keep happening. And that

1035
00:53:21,387 --> 00:53:23,747
Speaker 13: definitely got a lot for me. Definitely was something I

1036
00:53:23,787 --> 00:53:27,267
Speaker 13: wasn't used to and wasn't equipped to handle. So I

1037
00:53:27,267 --> 00:53:29,067
Speaker 13: think I learned a lot from that time though, and

1038
00:53:29,667 --> 00:53:31,667
Speaker 13: I think hopefully if I get back there, then I'll

1039
00:53:31,707 --> 00:53:34,347
Speaker 13: be better equipped to handle it. But at that time,

1040
00:53:34,427 --> 00:53:36,507
Speaker 13: it was huge, you know, a huge thing for me

1041
00:53:36,547 --> 00:53:39,747
Speaker 13: and very overwhelming with a lot, a lot of emotions

1042
00:53:39,787 --> 00:53:42,627
Speaker 13: and everything just became very hard, you know, to compete, to.

1043
00:53:42,587 --> 00:53:45,507
Speaker 15: Play and think clearly, it was a lot harder.

1044
00:53:45,547 --> 00:53:49,347
Speaker 13: So, like I said, you know, lessons learned, and it's

1045
00:53:49,387 --> 00:53:51,107
Speaker 13: a good experience to have. I think it's put me

1046
00:53:51,107 --> 00:53:53,547
Speaker 13: in a bit of shape for playing finals and stuff.

1047
00:53:53,547 --> 00:53:56,267
Speaker 13: Now I definitely handle the situation better. So hopefully we

1048
00:53:56,307 --> 00:53:58,747
Speaker 13: can get back there and you know, prove to myself

1049
00:53:58,787 --> 00:54:00,667
Speaker 13: that I can, you know, belong there.

1050
00:54:00,827 --> 00:54:04,747
Speaker 4: Indeed, your trademark across your career has always been your

1051
00:54:05,147 --> 00:54:10,067
Speaker 4: relentless chasing down of lost causes, your full length dives

1052
00:54:10,467 --> 00:54:13,147
Speaker 4: across the court. Are you still doing that as often

1053
00:54:13,227 --> 00:54:14,187
Speaker 4: as you always have?

1054
00:54:15,787 --> 00:54:16,187
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1055
00:54:16,307 --> 00:54:21,867
Speaker 13: Yeah, Unfortunately my body, my body. If everyone asked me

1056
00:54:21,907 --> 00:54:23,827
Speaker 13: how I was coming off Katar, and I was actually

1057
00:54:23,947 --> 00:54:26,667
Speaker 13: right physically, you know, but I had no skin left

1058
00:54:26,707 --> 00:54:29,227
Speaker 13: on my fingers, my toes and my knees were all

1059
00:54:29,347 --> 00:54:32,147
Speaker 13: shredded of skin. And I was like, my muscles are fine,

1060
00:54:32,147 --> 00:54:35,187
Speaker 13: but far out putting my shoes on, my fingers flatly bleeded.

1061
00:54:36,227 --> 00:54:39,227
Speaker 13: So just stuff like that. It comes from the dives

1062
00:54:39,267 --> 00:54:42,347
Speaker 13: and stuff. But again it's my character, It's who I am,

1063
00:54:42,427 --> 00:54:44,907
Speaker 13: and I don't even think about.

1064
00:54:44,667 --> 00:54:47,627
Speaker 15: It, mate, It just happens when I get desperate on there.

1065
00:54:47,707 --> 00:54:50,427
Speaker 13: So yeah, unfortunately, still doing it at the ripe old

1066
00:54:50,427 --> 00:54:51,227
Speaker 13: age of thirty three.

1067
00:54:51,307 --> 00:54:53,187
Speaker 4: Oh good on you mate. May it go on for

1068
00:54:53,507 --> 00:54:55,867
Speaker 4: a wee while longer. You've got the US Open obviously

1069
00:54:55,907 --> 00:54:58,387
Speaker 4: to play from this weekend. Then I look at the

1070
00:54:58,467 --> 00:55:02,027
Speaker 4: Golden Platinum level events coming up. There's the China Open

1071
00:55:02,147 --> 00:55:05,387
Speaker 4: next month, then the Hong Kong Open in December before

1072
00:55:05,747 --> 00:55:07,347
Speaker 4: the PSA, so it takes a break for a month

1073
00:55:07,467 --> 00:55:10,987
Speaker 4: or so. There are other events too with Farley's prize

1074
00:55:10,987 --> 00:55:14,587
Speaker 4: money attached to them. How selective are you now about

1075
00:55:14,587 --> 00:55:15,827
Speaker 4: the tournaments that you play in?

1076
00:55:17,507 --> 00:55:19,667
Speaker 15: Very it definitely.

1077
00:55:20,987 --> 00:55:24,147
Speaker 13: One it'll be you know, obviously, first of all, I

1078
00:55:24,227 --> 00:55:27,067
Speaker 13: need to peak at these big events, so I will

1079
00:55:27,107 --> 00:55:31,427
Speaker 13: select tournaments that either help or basically just don't hinder

1080
00:55:31,507 --> 00:55:35,107
Speaker 13: those events. So I will, you know, not play anything

1081
00:55:35,147 --> 00:55:37,667
Speaker 13: pre US Open. There was a tournament in San Francisco

1082
00:55:37,707 --> 00:55:39,747
Speaker 13: I could have played, but just with the travel and

1083
00:55:39,827 --> 00:55:42,507
Speaker 13: jet lag, it just definitely wouldn't be operating at my

1084
00:55:42,547 --> 00:55:45,227
Speaker 13: best at either sanfrand in US, so we decided to

1085
00:55:45,227 --> 00:55:48,587
Speaker 13: skip that one. And then, yes, it was about you know,

1086
00:55:48,667 --> 00:55:50,787
Speaker 13: preparing and peaking at those big ones and then just

1087
00:55:50,867 --> 00:55:54,947
Speaker 13: choosing tournaments that I enjoy. So just trying to obviously

1088
00:55:55,067 --> 00:55:58,227
Speaker 13: enjoy my last few years on tour, and you know

1089
00:55:58,267 --> 00:56:00,267
Speaker 13: that's why, you know, I decided to go to China.

1090
00:56:00,467 --> 00:56:02,307
Speaker 15: I love Asia. I love the Asia Tour.

1091
00:56:02,187 --> 00:56:04,227
Speaker 13: And I thought, you know, it's a new one that

1092
00:56:04,267 --> 00:56:06,027
Speaker 13: I haven't been to, so you know, a bit of

1093
00:56:06,027 --> 00:56:09,107
Speaker 13: exciting for me. But yeah, just trying to enjoy my

1094
00:56:09,147 --> 00:56:11,507
Speaker 13: time and tour and choose tournaments I want to go

1095
00:56:11,587 --> 00:56:14,067
Speaker 13: to and not you know, just chasing points because it's

1096
00:56:14,227 --> 00:56:16,907
Speaker 13: a weekend try list or something like that. Just yeah,

1097
00:56:17,107 --> 00:56:19,747
Speaker 13: more choosing what I want to do and making sure

1098
00:56:19,827 --> 00:56:22,987
Speaker 13: my body's fresh and energetic going into these majors.

1099
00:56:23,187 --> 00:56:25,347
Speaker 4: So I guess the big question is will your schedule

1100
00:56:25,467 --> 00:56:29,107
Speaker 4: allow you to come home to defend your New Zealand

1101
00:56:29,107 --> 00:56:30,587
Speaker 4: Squash Open title in March?

1102
00:56:31,347 --> 00:56:33,787
Speaker 13: Hey, that's top of the list that one, and then

1103
00:56:33,867 --> 00:56:35,667
Speaker 13: it goes will Champs and he's out and open. So

1104
00:56:36,947 --> 00:56:38,307
Speaker 13: I one hundred percent be there.

1105
00:56:38,147 --> 00:56:42,187
Speaker 4: For that brilliant stuff and squash is an Olympic sport

1106
00:56:42,307 --> 00:56:44,947
Speaker 4: next time in twenty twenty eight in Los Angeles. It's

1107
00:56:44,987 --> 00:56:48,227
Speaker 4: becoming an Olympian a major motivator for you as you

1108
00:56:48,307 --> 00:56:50,507
Speaker 4: perhaps reached the back end of your career.

1109
00:56:51,307 --> 00:56:52,187
Speaker 15: Yeah, it was huge man.

1110
00:56:52,227 --> 00:56:55,667
Speaker 13: Obviously you know I'm getting towards the end of my career,

1111
00:56:55,787 --> 00:56:58,227
Speaker 13: so that was a huge motivator. And to be honest,

1112
00:56:58,267 --> 00:57:02,067
Speaker 13: it's been amazing to be part of the an Olympic cycle.

1113
00:57:03,107 --> 00:57:05,987
Speaker 13: My training has changed, but people I'm working with added

1114
00:57:06,027 --> 00:57:09,467
Speaker 13: some new guys to my team, which is again bringing

1115
00:57:09,507 --> 00:57:12,547
Speaker 13: new stuff to me, new lessons, new things I can learn.

1116
00:57:12,667 --> 00:57:14,227
Speaker 15: So it's been awesome.

1117
00:57:14,227 --> 00:57:17,267
Speaker 13: Made has been such a little energy boost on the

1118
00:57:17,307 --> 00:57:20,507
Speaker 13: side for me to think about that preparation of a

1119
00:57:20,507 --> 00:57:23,347
Speaker 13: four year Olympic campaign. I've obviously heard, you know, some

1120
00:57:23,387 --> 00:57:25,587
Speaker 13: of my mates speak about it, but never got to

1121
00:57:26,027 --> 00:57:27,907
Speaker 13: be a part of one. So yet to have a

1122
00:57:27,947 --> 00:57:30,347
Speaker 13: four year Olympic campaign's pretty cool. And you know, going

1123
00:57:30,387 --> 00:57:33,147
Speaker 13: through the selection and qualifying process and just feeling that

1124
00:57:33,907 --> 00:57:36,747
Speaker 13: pressure and excitement that they all have about it is

1125
00:57:36,787 --> 00:57:37,267
Speaker 13: really cool.

1126
00:57:37,347 --> 00:57:40,827
Speaker 4: Yeah, very cool. Well, congrats on the Cutter Classic when

1127
00:57:40,867 --> 00:57:43,347
Speaker 4: Paul all the best in the US Open and for

1128
00:57:43,347 --> 00:57:44,707
Speaker 4: the rest of the year as well. Look forward to

1129
00:57:44,707 --> 00:57:47,627
Speaker 4: seeing you back here in March for the New Zealand Open.

1130
00:57:47,627 --> 00:57:49,707
Speaker 4: Thanks so much for taking the time this afternoon.

1131
00:57:50,147 --> 00:57:51,987
Speaker 15: Pleasure mate, Thanks for the cool No, thank you for.

1132
00:57:51,947 --> 00:57:54,507
Speaker 4: Taking a Paul. Paul Cole there joining us on news

1133
00:57:54,547 --> 00:57:57,547
Speaker 4: talks here being Weekend Sports. So he's at the US

1134
00:57:57,667 --> 00:58:00,267
Speaker 4: Squash Open, second seat. His first game is against the

1135
00:58:00,387 --> 00:58:05,027
Speaker 4: unseated Indian player Rum at Tandon. That is six fifteen

1136
00:58:05,147 --> 00:58:08,347
Speaker 4: pm Sunday, off Toober nineteen. I'm pretty sure that's US time,

1137
00:58:08,627 --> 00:58:11,107
Speaker 4: so that'll be tomorrow some stage that Paul Cole is

1138
00:58:11,307 --> 00:58:14,267
Speaker 4: in action in his first round match at the US

1139
00:58:14,427 --> 00:58:17,427
Speaker 4: Squash Open. Mark says Jason. I said yesterday to you

1140
00:58:18,067 --> 00:58:20,707
Speaker 4: that Canterbury would win by twenty mark you did. I

1141
00:58:20,747 --> 00:58:26,867
Speaker 4: remember your calling and saying exactly that, and you were right. Piney,

1142
00:58:26,907 --> 00:58:30,827
Speaker 4: that tab longshot bet, says Simon. Reminded me to thank

1143
00:58:30,867 --> 00:58:35,387
Speaker 4: you and Greg Murphy for the excellent Bathhurst tip. Twenty

1144
00:58:35,387 --> 00:58:37,787
Speaker 4: five dollars became five hundred bucks in a great week.

1145
00:58:38,107 --> 00:58:39,787
Speaker 4: Good on your Simon said. This is interesting to me

1146
00:58:39,867 --> 00:58:43,267
Speaker 4: because I'm not sure if you picked up on this.

1147
00:58:43,627 --> 00:58:46,387
Speaker 4: Most people listen to Mike Hosking. I'm not sure whether

1148
00:58:46,387 --> 00:58:50,467
Speaker 4: you heard his comments rather disparaging comments about me on Monday.

1149
00:58:50,787 --> 00:58:54,827
Speaker 17: Mike, please think Piney if you cross paths. He suggested

1150
00:58:54,867 --> 00:58:58,227
Speaker 17: on Friday that pain Tender at seven dollars would be

1151
00:58:58,307 --> 00:59:00,307
Speaker 17: a good bet. After practice six, they blew out to

1152
00:59:00,387 --> 00:59:02,867
Speaker 17: twenty three. Now I'm six hundred and ninety dollars up.

1153
00:59:02,987 --> 00:59:07,267
Speaker 17: Keith Pine was irresponsible and offer those sort of odds

1154
00:59:07,347 --> 00:59:09,587
Speaker 17: or suggesting too, because here's what I know about Bennie.

1155
00:59:09,627 --> 00:59:15,787
Speaker 4: Yeah, responsible. I love it. I'm glad that those of

1156
00:59:15,787 --> 00:59:19,987
Speaker 4: you who took my advice were able to benefit from it. Look,

1157
00:59:19,987 --> 00:59:22,627
Speaker 4: I'm just having a guess, like we all are right

1158
00:59:23,027 --> 00:59:24,747
Speaker 4: one twenty five. It is let's take a break, come

1159
00:59:24,747 --> 00:59:28,187
Speaker 4: back and recap last night's in PC semi final Canterburary

1160
00:59:28,227 --> 00:59:29,827
Speaker 4: getting up over Hawks Bay back in a moment on

1161
00:59:29,827 --> 00:59:30,467
Speaker 4: Weekend Sports.

1162
00:59:30,907 --> 00:59:34,427
Speaker 1: The figure seas in sports are on Weekend Sports with

1163
00:59:34,627 --> 00:59:38,707
Speaker 1: Jason Paine and GJ. Gunnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home

1164
00:59:38,787 --> 00:59:40,587
Speaker 1: builder News talksb.

1165
00:59:40,747 --> 00:59:43,427
Speaker 4: News Talks Won twenty eight. Canterbury have beaten Hawks Bay

1166
00:59:43,467 --> 00:59:46,987
Speaker 4: forty three nineteen to book a home n PC final

1167
00:59:47,027 --> 00:59:50,987
Speaker 4: against Otago on Saturday night. The visiting Magpie is blown

1168
00:59:51,027 --> 00:59:53,067
Speaker 4: away in the second half. They were only behind fifteen

1169
00:59:53,187 --> 00:59:57,627
Speaker 4: fourteen after fifty minutes. Canterbury ran in six tries in total,

1170
00:59:57,707 --> 00:59:59,387
Speaker 4: the last of their departing skipper.

1171
01:00:00,027 --> 01:00:02,467
Speaker 18: Canterbary will want to finish with a flourish. They know

1172
01:00:02,587 --> 01:00:07,507
Speaker 18: they've got one foot at next week's final. A kids

1173
01:00:07,547 --> 01:00:11,067
Speaker 18: don't Tago right running ball, Purnavite jets.

1174
01:00:10,827 --> 01:00:12,267
Speaker 4: And offloat free limb.

1175
01:00:12,387 --> 01:00:16,747
Speaker 19: Jack has Christie to us right and there isn't a

1176
01:00:16,867 --> 01:00:24,387
Speaker 19: more deserving twice scorer the captain fantastic top Christie game done.

1177
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Speaker 20: Tannabury.

1178
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Speaker 1: I go to the.

1179
01:00:26,547 --> 01:00:29,307
Speaker 4: Final out sideline on christ Church as part of our

1180
01:00:29,387 --> 01:00:31,827
Speaker 4: radio team as Craig Kerr. He spoke just after the

1181
01:00:31,827 --> 01:00:35,507
Speaker 4: whistle to Tom Christie about earning another Monday for the team.

1182
01:00:35,667 --> 01:00:38,627
Speaker 21: Yeah, how good, ay and another Monday. But Jesus was

1183
01:00:38,627 --> 01:00:41,107
Speaker 21: half fought out there, and I score boll probably doesn't

1184
01:00:41,107 --> 01:00:44,627
Speaker 21: reflect how tough that game was. I mean the collisions aspects,

1185
01:00:44,667 --> 01:00:46,947
Speaker 21: hawkspace certainly brought it there, and Jesus.

1186
01:00:46,667 --> 01:00:47,827
Speaker 4: Are on top bus for a lot of it.

1187
01:00:48,467 --> 01:00:52,627
Speaker 22: Defensively, you guys have been outstanding for pretty much all

1188
01:00:52,627 --> 01:00:55,387
Speaker 22: of the season and again tonight just just all over them.

1189
01:00:55,547 --> 01:00:57,267
Speaker 21: Yeah, we proyed ourselves on our d like, we love

1190
01:00:57,347 --> 01:00:59,827
Speaker 21: that area of our game, and we know that there

1191
01:00:59,827 --> 01:01:01,667
Speaker 21: can be a different maker and a lot of tight games.

1192
01:01:01,667 --> 01:01:04,147
Speaker 21: So there's areas there that we had to work, like

1193
01:01:04,667 --> 01:01:06,187
Speaker 21: a lot of line breaks that we probably could have

1194
01:01:06,187 --> 01:01:06,707
Speaker 21: tied it up.

1195
01:01:06,747 --> 01:01:07,947
Speaker 4: So we'll go away and work on that.

1196
01:01:08,107 --> 01:01:10,147
Speaker 21: But overall, pretty happy and we love that.

1197
01:01:10,187 --> 01:01:14,307
Speaker 22: But a target next to Saturday afternoon here, mate, how

1198
01:01:14,387 --> 01:01:16,707
Speaker 22: much bit of payback in the mind?

1199
01:01:17,107 --> 01:01:18,627
Speaker 21: One hundred percent? It was only a couple of weeks

1200
01:01:18,667 --> 01:01:21,307
Speaker 21: ago that they took their shield off us. But hey,

1201
01:01:21,307 --> 01:01:22,907
Speaker 21: they've been playing good rugby. They deserve to be on

1202
01:01:22,947 --> 01:01:25,067
Speaker 21: the final as well, so it'll be a hell of

1203
01:01:25,107 --> 01:01:27,067
Speaker 21: an occasion. Hopefully Chross roots will turn out. We know

1204
01:01:27,067 --> 01:01:29,227
Speaker 21: our fans will be here and they'll be loud as well,

1205
01:01:29,227 --> 01:01:29,747
Speaker 21: and we love that.

1206
01:01:29,907 --> 01:01:30,107
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1207
01:01:30,107 --> 01:01:34,667
Speaker 4: Sorry, Afternoon next Saturday, Saturday afternoon five past four is

1208
01:01:34,747 --> 01:01:37,387
Speaker 4: kickoff in that game. It's an afternoon kickoff. I eatee

1209
01:01:37,467 --> 01:01:40,787
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty. Canterbury fans keen to hear

1210
01:01:40,827 --> 01:01:45,467
Speaker 4: from you. You haven't really sort of spoken much in

1211
01:01:45,547 --> 01:01:47,267
Speaker 4: recent times. I think you've just sort of been a

1212
01:01:47,267 --> 01:01:49,507
Speaker 4: bit like your team really just sort of doing the business,

1213
01:01:49,627 --> 01:01:52,067
Speaker 4: just sort of quietly going about it. But you forget

1214
01:01:52,107 --> 01:01:55,307
Speaker 4: you look at the table and Canterbury have hardly lost

1215
01:01:55,307 --> 01:01:58,187
Speaker 4: a game. In fact, the only game they lost was

1216
01:01:58,187 --> 01:02:02,027
Speaker 4: that Shield Challenge, wasn't it. I eight one hundred and

1217
01:02:02,027 --> 01:02:03,947
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty. Come on, Canabary fans, beat your chest

1218
01:02:03,947 --> 01:02:06,907
Speaker 4: a little bit. And I'm always asked this question. Maybe

1219
01:02:07,107 --> 01:02:09,067
Speaker 4: I wonder if I'm bit naive and thinking this, but

1220
01:02:09,107 --> 01:02:13,467
Speaker 4: it feels to me as though the Neutrals will back Otago.

1221
01:02:13,707 --> 01:02:17,587
Speaker 4: Is that right? Are there Neutrals who would like to

1222
01:02:17,587 --> 01:02:20,507
Speaker 4: see Canterbury win? I'm sure there are. I'm sure there

1223
01:02:20,547 --> 01:02:22,187
Speaker 4: are a lot of people who look at that Canterbury

1224
01:02:22,227 --> 01:02:29,507
Speaker 4: team and think they played terrific rugby. They are consistently excellent.

1225
01:02:29,827 --> 01:02:32,707
Speaker 4: They've got a couple of players departing, including Tom Christi

1226
01:02:33,427 --> 01:02:36,507
Speaker 4: he's off to the UK after this, so I'm sure

1227
01:02:36,547 --> 01:02:38,627
Speaker 4: he'd love to finish. I actually checked. I think Tom

1228
01:02:38,707 --> 01:02:44,347
Speaker 4: Christie's Canterbury debut. What's the NPC final in twenty seventeen,

1229
01:02:44,467 --> 01:02:48,867
Speaker 4: the last time Canterbury won it, he came off the

1230
01:02:48,907 --> 01:02:51,547
Speaker 4: bench for the last four minutes. I think that was

1231
01:02:52,947 --> 01:02:56,227
Speaker 4: Tom Christie's Canterbury debu. Sure what?

1232
01:02:56,307 --> 01:02:56,507
Speaker 10: Hello?

1233
01:02:58,227 --> 01:03:00,427
Speaker 23: Yeah, good? I just thought i'd mentioned to you that

1234
01:03:00,587 --> 01:03:03,627
Speaker 23: the Mainland has got the rule of the roost in

1235
01:03:03,667 --> 01:03:07,707
Speaker 23: the rugby. You've got the Crusaders won the special over

1236
01:03:07,907 --> 01:03:11,507
Speaker 23: super You've got Otago with the shield. You've got a

1237
01:03:11,547 --> 01:03:15,707
Speaker 23: South Island final in the NPC mid Canterbury just won

1238
01:03:15,827 --> 01:03:18,907
Speaker 23: yesterday and I'm hoping that North Otago will complete the

1239
01:03:18,947 --> 01:03:22,707
Speaker 23: sweep this afternoon. So that takes a bit of beating,

1240
01:03:22,787 --> 01:03:23,907
Speaker 23: doesn't it It does.

1241
01:03:24,027 --> 01:03:27,627
Speaker 4: The South Island is the power base, the power based

1242
01:03:27,667 --> 01:03:32,227
Speaker 4: Sherwood of rugby. You're right, it's yeah, it's quite the

1243
01:03:32,267 --> 01:03:35,067
Speaker 4: sweetestn't as you say? Right from Heartland Championship all the

1244
01:03:35,067 --> 01:03:39,667
Speaker 4: way up to Super Rugby. Plenty of plenty of people

1245
01:03:39,667 --> 01:03:41,667
Speaker 4: from the Three and the All Blacks as well. Then

1246
01:03:41,707 --> 01:03:44,187
Speaker 4: they used to say that, Sherwood, that when Canterbury rugby

1247
01:03:44,267 --> 01:03:46,107
Speaker 4: was strong, New Zealand rugby was strong.

1248
01:03:47,267 --> 01:03:49,947
Speaker 23: Yep, and that's the case I would suggest. But a

1249
01:03:49,987 --> 01:03:53,107
Speaker 23: little bit of research for you piney see if that's

1250
01:03:53,147 --> 01:03:56,467
Speaker 23: happened before, if North Otago can take it today, see

1251
01:03:56,507 --> 01:03:59,107
Speaker 23: if it's happened in recent times. For the whole lot

1252
01:03:59,147 --> 01:03:59,427
Speaker 23: to be.

1253
01:03:59,427 --> 01:04:02,507
Speaker 4: That way, I definitely will. I'll get my team onto that, Sherwood.

1254
01:04:02,667 --> 01:04:06,947
Speaker 4: So Super Rugby NPC meets couple of har Cup have

1255
01:04:07,027 --> 01:04:11,227
Speaker 4: they ever before? All lived in the South Island. I'm

1256
01:04:11,227 --> 01:04:12,947
Speaker 4: pretty sure that there would have been time when the

1257
01:04:12,947 --> 01:04:18,307
Speaker 4: Crusaders and Canterbury were Super Rugby and in PC champions respectively.

1258
01:04:18,427 --> 01:04:21,147
Speaker 4: But I don't know about the other two. I'd have

1259
01:04:21,187 --> 01:04:23,067
Speaker 4: to dig a bit deeper. I'll get onto it, Sherwood.

1260
01:04:23,107 --> 01:04:26,827
Speaker 4: Thanks for bringing it up. Hello ed he good?

1261
01:04:27,987 --> 01:04:32,627
Speaker 24: I say go Cannerary mate the best team and probably

1262
01:04:32,947 --> 01:04:37,347
Speaker 24: New Zealand and a wonderful team and lovely city Canbury.

1263
01:04:37,827 --> 01:04:41,147
Speaker 4: Yeah, look I agree. I really like christ Church. I

1264
01:04:41,187 --> 01:04:43,467
Speaker 4: think the problem we strike is that you're too successful

1265
01:04:43,507 --> 01:04:46,387
Speaker 4: down there, Ed. I think that's the reason why we're

1266
01:04:46,427 --> 01:04:49,747
Speaker 4: all a little bit reticent to jumping behind you. Plus,

1267
01:04:49,747 --> 01:04:52,067
Speaker 4: I mean, do you even do you even't grudgingly admit

1268
01:04:52,107 --> 01:04:53,667
Speaker 4: how good Otago have been this year?

1269
01:04:54,467 --> 01:04:56,147
Speaker 24: No, that'd been good, mate, don't worry a bit of that.

1270
01:04:56,267 --> 01:04:58,707
Speaker 24: But Kennery is just too good for anyone at the moment.

1271
01:05:00,467 --> 01:05:02,907
Speaker 4: I love the bullishness of it, Ed, love it mate.

1272
01:05:02,987 --> 01:05:04,347
Speaker 4: Good work, Hello, Mark.

1273
01:05:06,347 --> 01:05:09,227
Speaker 25: Now I'm a neutral patier. I know my hat says Otaga.

1274
01:05:09,387 --> 01:05:12,147
Speaker 25: I've had a pretty rough few years really Otaga rugby.

1275
01:05:12,147 --> 01:05:15,227
Speaker 25: But yeah, watching the game last night, I thought Kenterbury

1276
01:05:15,347 --> 01:05:16,507
Speaker 25: was just ruthless.

1277
01:05:16,547 --> 01:05:16,747
Speaker 8: You know.

1278
01:05:16,947 --> 01:05:19,827
Speaker 25: I thought hawks Bay put up a good fight, but man,

1279
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Speaker 25: that second half they just overpowered them. I thought fucker

1280
01:05:22,787 --> 01:05:25,667
Speaker 25: Tava was exceptionally good. I mean I thought he almost

1281
01:05:25,707 --> 01:05:28,547
Speaker 25: played himself back into contention. Maybe you know, he just

1282
01:05:28,747 --> 01:05:31,227
Speaker 25: he was really good as half back and he is

1283
01:05:31,307 --> 01:05:33,627
Speaker 25: really aggressive, and I thought every time he touched up

1284
01:05:33,627 --> 01:05:34,707
Speaker 25: all he made an impact.

1285
01:05:35,387 --> 01:05:37,147
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's almost I don't know if it's

1286
01:05:37,187 --> 01:05:39,987
Speaker 4: the second coming of fucka Tava, but he's been excellent

1287
01:05:40,427 --> 01:05:43,227
Speaker 4: and interesting to hear. Jamie Joseph yesterday. I'm not sure

1288
01:05:43,267 --> 01:05:45,427
Speaker 4: if you heard my chat with him, and I asked

1289
01:05:45,507 --> 01:05:48,707
Speaker 4: him about Fala fuckatava because I just assumed Mark that

1290
01:05:48,827 --> 01:05:51,347
Speaker 4: he was just observing the three year stand down so

1291
01:05:51,387 --> 01:05:54,387
Speaker 4: he could play for Tom. But according to Jamie Joseph,

1292
01:05:54,427 --> 01:05:56,267
Speaker 4: his All Blacks ambitions are as strong as ever.

1293
01:05:57,867 --> 01:06:00,627
Speaker 25: Yeah, well, how he played last night, I thought he

1294
01:06:00,707 --> 01:06:02,987
Speaker 25: was just outstanding. I thought he was probably one of

1295
01:06:02,587 --> 01:06:05,507
Speaker 25: the best players on the field. And I thought McCleod

1296
01:06:05,787 --> 01:06:07,587
Speaker 25: for Kennbury, I mean, there was a lot of great

1297
01:06:07,627 --> 01:06:10,667
Speaker 25: performances in that in that game. But yeah, as I said,

1298
01:06:10,787 --> 01:06:14,107
Speaker 25: you know, Kenarbury look really look really sharp in that game.

1299
01:06:14,187 --> 01:06:17,467
Speaker 25: And Tom Christie obviously this year just flowing out standing

1300
01:06:17,507 --> 01:06:19,787
Speaker 25: rugby at the moment. It's a bit unfortunate. I think

1301
01:06:19,787 --> 01:06:21,147
Speaker 25: he's going overseas.

1302
01:06:21,187 --> 01:06:23,267
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought, I mean it's unfortunate for the rest

1303
01:06:23,307 --> 01:06:27,347
Speaker 4: of us that they're playing so well. It's probably that

1304
01:06:27,547 --> 01:06:30,307
Speaker 4: as well. Mark probably then as well. Thanks for your call.

1305
01:06:30,347 --> 01:06:32,827
Speaker 6: Good it, John, Can I play?

1306
01:06:33,267 --> 01:06:39,427
Speaker 9: I just wanted to slip and another contribution from the

1307
01:06:39,467 --> 01:06:42,227
Speaker 9: South Island at the ran Philly Shields and Otago.

1308
01:06:42,907 --> 01:06:46,547
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's greedy. It's a bit greedy of the three,

1309
01:06:47,067 --> 01:06:48,027
Speaker 4: isn't it Well?

1310
01:06:48,947 --> 01:06:51,027
Speaker 9: But you can come back the other way and say

1311
01:06:51,067 --> 01:06:55,907
Speaker 9: that that Auckland and Wellington by far and away succeed

1312
01:06:56,627 --> 01:06:59,507
Speaker 9: the South Island when it comes to football. They've got

1313
01:06:59,547 --> 01:07:03,587
Speaker 9: the two best teams in the country and and also

1314
01:07:03,707 --> 01:07:09,467
Speaker 9: the and League Warriors in the North Island. Far ek

1315
01:07:09,587 --> 01:07:12,427
Speaker 9: seed what we've got available in the South Island.

1316
01:07:12,907 --> 01:07:15,427
Speaker 25: You know we've got to keep it even, that's right.

1317
01:07:16,147 --> 01:07:19,387
Speaker 4: Yes, Indeed the absence of teams professional teams in the

1318
01:07:19,427 --> 01:07:22,227
Speaker 4: South Island from rugby, league and football is a factor here,

1319
01:07:22,307 --> 01:07:26,347
Speaker 4: I know, But no I like what it's noted. I

1320
01:07:26,507 --> 01:07:29,067
Speaker 4: like what you're driving it mate, bloody good contribution from you,

1321
01:07:29,427 --> 01:07:30,587
Speaker 4: Thanks John, thanks for calling.

1322
01:07:30,947 --> 01:07:31,187
Speaker 3: Phil.

1323
01:07:31,227 --> 01:07:32,827
Speaker 4: Who have you got winning the MPC? Who do you

1324
01:07:32,867 --> 01:07:34,667
Speaker 4: think will win it? Who do you want to win it?

1325
01:07:36,107 --> 01:07:40,267
Speaker 16: Well, yeah, that's a good question given where I come

1326
01:07:40,307 --> 01:07:44,107
Speaker 16: from down the South Island and Gore there and closer

1327
01:07:44,187 --> 01:07:48,067
Speaker 16: province to Otago, but living in Cannabury there thirty years

1328
01:07:48,147 --> 01:07:48,427
Speaker 16: or more.

1329
01:07:49,707 --> 01:07:50,267
Speaker 24: Good question.

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01:07:50,387 --> 01:07:53,667
Speaker 16: I watched the game last night. I actually wouldn't mind.

1331
01:07:54,747 --> 01:07:57,907
Speaker 16: I wouldn't actually mind seeing Otago win it, and I

1332
01:07:58,147 --> 01:08:05,187
Speaker 16: actually I think I think given that performance I watched

1333
01:08:05,187 --> 01:08:08,067
Speaker 16: both games. The targo. I think they can do it.

1334
01:08:08,107 --> 01:08:09,707
Speaker 16: I think a target can do it. In fact, I

1335
01:08:09,747 --> 01:08:13,707
Speaker 16: was thinking last night, even as convincing as Canterbury were,

1336
01:08:14,347 --> 01:08:17,347
Speaker 16: but mostly in that second half, because in that first half,

1337
01:08:17,827 --> 01:08:19,907
Speaker 16: like you said, and I was actually thinking of your bet,

1338
01:08:20,067 --> 01:08:22,147
Speaker 16: I was thinking of that guy that was only they

1339
01:08:22,147 --> 01:08:24,147
Speaker 16: were only one point behind, and I actually thought of

1340
01:08:24,187 --> 01:08:25,987
Speaker 16: the bet, thinking that, oh, that fellow must be getting

1341
01:08:26,027 --> 01:08:31,507
Speaker 16: pretty excited about the long shot better pointies. But you know,

1342
01:08:31,547 --> 01:08:35,907
Speaker 16: it was unusual. They missed twenty one tackles. I think

1343
01:08:35,947 --> 01:08:38,507
Speaker 16: the statistic wasn't that first half Canterbury, which was really

1344
01:08:38,587 --> 01:08:40,507
Speaker 16: unusual for Cannaby. But then they must have got a

1345
01:08:40,507 --> 01:08:42,787
Speaker 16: hell of a river up in the shields because in

1346
01:08:42,867 --> 01:08:45,787
Speaker 16: the sheds at half time, because they came back in

1347
01:08:45,827 --> 01:08:48,107
Speaker 16: that second half and the defense just went up another

1348
01:08:48,187 --> 01:08:50,667
Speaker 16: level and that's what basically got them over the line

1349
01:08:50,667 --> 01:08:53,387
Speaker 16: in that second half and they accumulated the points. And

1350
01:08:53,547 --> 01:08:56,507
Speaker 16: I thought by putting the pressure on the Magpois, because

1351
01:08:56,507 --> 01:09:00,307
Speaker 16: the Magpois played really well, especially in that first half,

1352
01:09:00,347 --> 01:09:01,987
Speaker 16: but not so much in the second half. But there

1353
01:09:01,987 --> 01:09:04,027
Speaker 16: was due to the pressure from the defense of Canterbury

1354
01:09:04,067 --> 01:09:07,587
Speaker 16: getting up on them but there was some good performances

1355
01:09:07,587 --> 01:09:12,027
Speaker 16: by the mag Poiser Fuckatava and the guy Plumber I think,

1356
01:09:12,027 --> 01:09:13,827
Speaker 16: which I hadn't heard off. For the mag Pois, he

1357
01:09:13,867 --> 01:09:17,187
Speaker 16: was outstanding. There was a couple other ones and Tom Christie.

1358
01:09:17,227 --> 01:09:20,307
Speaker 16: I mean, boy, how that guy has never had a

1359
01:09:20,387 --> 01:09:22,547
Speaker 16: shot at been given a chance in the All Blacks.

1360
01:09:22,587 --> 01:09:24,867
Speaker 16: I don't know, because they said last night he'd made

1361
01:09:24,867 --> 01:09:27,627
Speaker 16: the most tackles, like two hundred tackles or something over

1362
01:09:27,667 --> 01:09:31,347
Speaker 16: the NPC and his leadership, and also some of the

1363
01:09:31,387 --> 01:09:34,147
Speaker 16: turnovers that he got as well. And then that bold

1364
01:09:34,187 --> 01:09:36,147
Speaker 16: decision which I thought was quite good, and they could

1365
01:09:36,147 --> 01:09:38,387
Speaker 16: have taken the easy three points but decided to have

1366
01:09:38,467 --> 01:09:41,227
Speaker 16: a gun the line. They scored with McLeod who was

1367
01:09:41,747 --> 01:09:44,027
Speaker 16: He's yeah, he's good as well, you know, big strong

1368
01:09:44,027 --> 01:09:46,667
Speaker 16: fellow coming over the line, and that put the pressure

1369
01:09:46,707 --> 01:09:48,427
Speaker 16: back on the hawk's bay and I thought that was

1370
01:09:48,467 --> 01:09:49,187
Speaker 16: a good decision.

1371
01:09:50,107 --> 01:09:53,027
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's yeah.

1372
01:09:53,067 --> 01:09:56,067
Speaker 16: I just I'm shamed to see Tom Christy going, like

1373
01:09:56,067 --> 01:09:58,307
Speaker 16: I said, bewilders me how he's never had his chance

1374
01:09:58,387 --> 01:10:00,827
Speaker 16: to ever go on the All Blacks. But I remember

1375
01:10:00,867 --> 01:10:03,227
Speaker 16: Scott Robertson when you had him on, and I called

1376
01:10:03,307 --> 01:10:05,387
Speaker 16: up and He didn't say exactly what he needed to

1377
01:10:05,387 --> 01:10:07,347
Speaker 16: do to up his game to them, but he just

1378
01:10:07,387 --> 01:10:09,467
Speaker 16: alluded there were some things that they had talked with

1379
01:10:09,547 --> 01:10:10,747
Speaker 16: him in that that he needed to do.

1380
01:10:11,427 --> 01:10:12,547
Speaker 5: But yeah, I.

1381
01:10:12,507 --> 01:10:14,667
Speaker 9: Think I think could do it.

1382
01:10:14,707 --> 01:10:18,347
Speaker 16: And I know my auntie and uncle who have lived

1383
01:10:18,387 --> 01:10:20,947
Speaker 16: in a central tag all their life and live down

1384
01:10:20,987 --> 01:10:23,507
Speaker 16: and Cloyton lives in Duned and they'll be but they'll

1385
01:10:23,547 --> 01:10:24,667
Speaker 16: be gunning for a targo.

1386
01:10:24,867 --> 01:10:26,227
Speaker 8: They'll be. Yeah.

1387
01:10:26,267 --> 01:10:28,427
Speaker 4: So I think I think everybody fell. I think everyone

1388
01:10:28,467 --> 01:10:30,227
Speaker 4: outside of your fair city will be made. I'll be

1389
01:10:30,227 --> 01:10:32,267
Speaker 4: surprised if you're allowed back in the rock, Paul, mate,

1390
01:10:32,307 --> 01:10:33,987
Speaker 4: where we had the chance to meet one another face

1391
01:10:34,027 --> 01:10:36,347
Speaker 4: to face back on Super Rugby Final day. I'll be

1392
01:10:36,387 --> 01:10:38,267
Speaker 4: surprised if you're allowed back in there, mate, with your

1393
01:10:38,267 --> 01:10:41,347
Speaker 4: Otago colors on. But I love what you I love

1394
01:10:41,387 --> 01:10:43,307
Speaker 4: what you're bringing to the table. You're in a bit

1395
01:10:43,307 --> 01:10:45,787
Speaker 4: of a no lose situation if you quite like the

1396
01:10:45,787 --> 01:10:48,227
Speaker 4: idea of Otago winning. But you read them black through

1397
01:10:48,227 --> 01:10:50,027
Speaker 4: and through. Good to chat to you, mate. Do they

1398
01:10:50,067 --> 01:10:53,307
Speaker 4: have George Bell next week? Asks Tim? I don't think so, Tim.

1399
01:10:53,707 --> 01:10:55,707
Speaker 4: I think George Bell will join up with the All Blacks.

1400
01:10:55,747 --> 01:10:59,707
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be there next week, so they'll

1401
01:11:00,067 --> 01:11:03,667
Speaker 4: they'll be without George Bell. Any neutral supporting Canterbury clearly

1402
01:11:03,747 --> 01:11:07,507
Speaker 4: must have severe concussions. Is this text or other symptoms

1403
01:11:08,027 --> 01:11:10,667
Speaker 4: that are not allowing them to think straight? Mars agrees

1404
01:11:10,707 --> 01:11:13,307
Speaker 4: there'd be not one person outside of Canterbury that would

1405
01:11:13,307 --> 01:11:16,467
Speaker 4: support them unless they were born there. Yeah, I think

1406
01:11:16,627 --> 01:11:19,387
Speaker 4: I just look again, no skin in the game. I've

1407
01:11:19,387 --> 01:11:24,067
Speaker 4: said all along, ever since Wellington were shown to be

1408
01:11:24,547 --> 01:11:27,427
Speaker 4: not contenders for the NPC that I hoped Otago won it.

1409
01:11:27,707 --> 01:11:30,027
Speaker 4: I think Otago have had a terrific season. I love

1410
01:11:30,107 --> 01:11:33,427
Speaker 4: watching them play under the roof on Friday night and

1411
01:11:33,627 --> 01:11:37,867
Speaker 4: beat Bay of plenty thought there was terrific and exciting

1412
01:11:37,947 --> 01:11:42,187
Speaker 4: young players. They won't have any fear going up to

1413
01:11:42,267 --> 01:11:46,147
Speaker 4: christ Church as mentioned they won there earlier the season

1414
01:11:46,147 --> 01:11:48,507
Speaker 4: to claim the shield, but there is that revenge on

1415
01:11:48,547 --> 01:11:52,387
Speaker 4: the minds of the Red and Blacks as well. Five

1416
01:11:52,467 --> 01:11:54,827
Speaker 4: past four next Saturday. We'll have a bit of a

1417
01:11:54,827 --> 01:11:57,507
Speaker 4: build up to that on Weekend Sport next Saturday, No

1418
01:11:57,587 --> 01:11:59,427
Speaker 4: doubt twenty to two on the Dot, let's take away

1419
01:11:59,467 --> 01:12:02,107
Speaker 4: come back James mcconey in this regular Sunday slot.

1420
01:12:02,947 --> 01:12:05,787
Speaker 1: You love voice of Sports on your home of Sport,

1421
01:12:06,467 --> 01:12:11,227
Speaker 1: can Sport with Jason GJ Gunnerholmes, new Zealand's most trusted

1422
01:12:11,227 --> 01:12:12,027
Speaker 1: own builders.

1423
01:12:13,307 --> 01:12:16,827
Speaker 4: Seventeen away from two Sundays are our opportunity to hear

1424
01:12:16,827 --> 01:12:20,467
Speaker 4: from James mcconey. Hello mate, get a piney.

1425
01:12:20,587 --> 01:12:21,987
Speaker 7: Nice to be on the show again.

1426
01:12:22,547 --> 01:12:25,587
Speaker 4: It's good to have you with us. Yeah each week change, Yes,

1427
01:12:25,947 --> 01:12:28,387
Speaker 4: as a regular good to have you here in PC.

1428
01:12:28,547 --> 01:12:32,227
Speaker 4: I just threw out the assertion I guess that anybody

1429
01:12:32,267 --> 01:12:36,507
Speaker 4: who doesn't support Canterbury will be supporting Otago. Is that

1430
01:12:36,507 --> 01:12:37,227
Speaker 4: you'll read on it.

1431
01:12:38,427 --> 01:12:40,867
Speaker 7: Oh, it's tricky one because I quite like the cut

1432
01:12:40,907 --> 01:12:44,627
Speaker 7: of Canterbury's German, the way they've played, and they do

1433
01:12:44,747 --> 01:12:47,747
Speaker 7: have some underdog stories, you know new stub at first

1434
01:12:47,747 --> 01:12:51,307
Speaker 7: five like who knew? I mean that there was going

1435
01:12:51,347 --> 01:12:54,027
Speaker 7: to be somewhere he's going to excel. So I quite

1436
01:12:54,187 --> 01:12:56,907
Speaker 7: like that fact. But yeah, if you if you boil

1437
01:12:56,987 --> 01:13:01,627
Speaker 7: it down to number of super rugby players, then yeah,

1438
01:13:01,787 --> 01:13:06,947
Speaker 7: Canterbury are kind of stacked, especially that back line. But look,

1439
01:13:07,827 --> 01:13:10,827
Speaker 7: I think it's Otago. It's the drought that really draws

1440
01:13:10,867 --> 01:13:13,027
Speaker 7: you to them. So the first time, the last time

1441
01:13:13,067 --> 01:13:16,667
Speaker 7: they won it was nineteen ninety eight. We're talking Jeff Wilson,

1442
01:13:16,827 --> 01:13:21,707
Speaker 7: Josh Cronfeld, Kane Randall. I mean it's a long time

1443
01:13:21,707 --> 01:13:23,067
Speaker 7: between drinks, it is.

1444
01:13:23,187 --> 01:13:24,707
Speaker 4: It is a long time. But then you think because

1445
01:13:24,787 --> 01:13:27,707
Speaker 4: I because I guess we default to the setting of ah, yeah,

1446
01:13:27,747 --> 01:13:30,667
Speaker 4: but Canterbury won it every year, but they don't. The

1447
01:13:30,747 --> 01:13:33,707
Speaker 4: last time they won it was twenty seventeen, which for

1448
01:13:33,747 --> 01:13:36,947
Speaker 4: a province like Canterbury. And I know the Crusaders also

1449
01:13:37,387 --> 01:13:39,547
Speaker 4: when rugby matches down there, but yet they haven't won

1450
01:13:39,587 --> 01:13:40,587
Speaker 4: it for eight years either.

1451
01:13:41,707 --> 01:13:44,387
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I mean it's a good one because I

1452
01:13:44,427 --> 01:13:47,667
Speaker 7: think these two teams have set the standard. They both

1453
01:13:47,667 --> 01:13:50,667
Speaker 7: took the shield at different times and then Otago finally

1454
01:13:50,667 --> 01:13:54,707
Speaker 7: took it off Canterbury. There's you know, there's some nice

1455
01:13:54,827 --> 01:13:59,747
Speaker 7: kind of like cross provincial battles where you know, Christian

1456
01:13:59,827 --> 01:14:03,947
Speaker 7: leo'willy is an absolute star for the Crusaders, but he's

1457
01:14:03,987 --> 01:14:08,667
Speaker 7: just so crucial. They're at number eight for Otago, so

1458
01:14:09,227 --> 01:14:12,467
Speaker 7: they know each other so well. I have heard that

1459
01:14:12,587 --> 01:14:16,067
Speaker 7: George Bell and Sam Darry will not play in the final,

1460
01:14:16,227 --> 01:14:20,147
Speaker 7: but I think there's enough depth for Canterbury to handle that.

1461
01:14:20,667 --> 01:14:23,947
Speaker 4: Yeah, I tend to agree, And you look at the lineups.

1462
01:14:23,947 --> 01:14:25,947
Speaker 4: But then having said that, James, you know Otago went

1463
01:14:26,027 --> 01:14:27,827
Speaker 4: up there and won the shield, didn't they? You know,

1464
01:14:27,827 --> 01:14:30,067
Speaker 4: they won't have any fear going up is a state

1465
01:14:30,147 --> 01:14:32,787
Speaker 4: highway one between Dunedin and christ each presumably it is.

1466
01:14:32,907 --> 01:14:35,267
Speaker 4: They won't have any fear about going up that road,

1467
01:14:35,307 --> 01:14:35,667
Speaker 4: will they?

1468
01:14:36,427 --> 01:14:38,147
Speaker 7: It is? Yeah, it's the only tough part is the

1469
01:14:38,147 --> 01:14:41,227
Speaker 7: holding your breath over the Rakaiah Bridge, like there's you

1470
01:14:41,267 --> 01:14:45,627
Speaker 7: know that's that can be tricky and probably might to

1471
01:14:45,627 --> 01:14:50,267
Speaker 7: be attempted by everybody. But I reckon the way I

1472
01:14:50,307 --> 01:14:53,827
Speaker 7: look at Otago is they're a blossoming team, right. So

1473
01:14:53,947 --> 01:14:57,707
Speaker 7: Dylan Pletcher at halfback, so young, so quirk. He's kind

1474
01:14:57,707 --> 01:15:00,427
Speaker 7: of like Antoine DuPont before he hit the weight room,

1475
01:15:00,467 --> 01:15:04,427
Speaker 7: you know. So he's just so such a firecracker as

1476
01:15:04,427 --> 01:15:08,187
Speaker 7: a player. And then Lucas Casey, the Kenny Kenny kid

1477
01:15:08,507 --> 01:15:12,227
Speaker 7: for Otago at number seven, scoring these crazy tries and

1478
01:15:12,267 --> 01:15:15,187
Speaker 7: I'm the one that he's scored two against Canterbury but

1479
01:15:15,507 --> 01:15:18,267
Speaker 7: one of them he left the fallback to standing like

1480
01:15:18,307 --> 01:15:21,427
Speaker 7: a statue. So he has got all the skills as

1481
01:15:21,427 --> 01:15:24,067
Speaker 7: well the off loads. He's got the sunny bill fleck

1482
01:15:24,707 --> 01:15:27,107
Speaker 7: and I look at that and think, Okay, these are

1483
01:15:27,427 --> 01:15:30,387
Speaker 7: new stars coming through, but they've done it well by

1484
01:15:31,147 --> 01:15:35,667
Speaker 7: assembling all these kind of like veterans. You've still got

1485
01:15:35,947 --> 01:15:38,547
Speaker 7: Liam Coltman hanging around off the bench, and you've got

1486
01:15:38,747 --> 01:15:42,307
Speaker 7: Thomas Umunger Jensen, who's really an elite number twelve. So

1487
01:15:42,707 --> 01:15:44,707
Speaker 7: I like the way Targo play as well. It's kind

1488
01:15:44,707 --> 01:15:48,307
Speaker 7: of an exciting style. Can of be more methodical, yeah,

1489
01:15:48,427 --> 01:15:48,907
Speaker 7: should be good.

1490
01:15:48,947 --> 01:15:52,107
Speaker 4: Final five past four next Saturday. The A League season

1491
01:15:52,187 --> 01:15:55,307
Speaker 4: is underway. Both Wellington Phoenix and Auckland FC had away

1492
01:15:55,347 --> 01:15:58,747
Speaker 4: games last night. They both ended in draws. Auckland FC

1493
01:15:59,467 --> 01:16:04,667
Speaker 4: off the back of their astonishingly good first season kind

1494
01:16:04,667 --> 01:16:06,667
Speaker 4: of Houghton puffed a little bit and then little draw

1495
01:16:07,067 --> 01:16:08,987
Speaker 4: against Melbourne victory. It kind of felt to me like

1496
01:16:09,427 --> 01:16:11,747
Speaker 4: a typical first game of the season. I'm not sure

1497
01:16:11,747 --> 01:16:12,347
Speaker 4: what you thought.

1498
01:16:13,547 --> 01:16:17,267
Speaker 7: I thought Aukland they see looked a bit boring, so

1499
01:16:17,747 --> 01:16:20,987
Speaker 7: it's I mean, I don't know. Sometimes with football you

1500
01:16:21,027 --> 01:16:24,067
Speaker 7: get a bit spoiled watching Premier League and stuff and

1501
01:16:23,347 --> 01:16:25,747
Speaker 7: the cut and trust of it. But yeah, they were

1502
01:16:25,787 --> 01:16:29,507
Speaker 7: working each other out. There's a but the core is

1503
01:16:29,507 --> 01:16:31,667
Speaker 7: still there for Auckland FC. I just feel like the

1504
01:16:31,707 --> 01:16:35,067
Speaker 7: cunning edge was lacking a bit, and there's a few

1505
01:16:35,107 --> 01:16:38,547
Speaker 7: players out there he'll be wishing they had those shots back.

1506
01:16:38,627 --> 01:16:41,627
Speaker 7: So look mate, and they see the work on is

1507
01:16:41,827 --> 01:16:45,827
Speaker 7: shooting practice. You should be able to volley off your

1508
01:16:45,827 --> 01:16:48,107
Speaker 7: weaker foot. As my theory, you know when the ball

1509
01:16:48,147 --> 01:16:50,867
Speaker 7: comes in because of volley, you're just redirecting it. You're

1510
01:16:50,867 --> 01:16:53,827
Speaker 7: not having to sort of like set the whole thing up.

1511
01:16:53,907 --> 01:16:57,027
Speaker 7: It's like you could potentially volley with your with your

1512
01:16:57,027 --> 01:16:59,467
Speaker 7: wrong hand in tennis, but you're not going to be

1513
01:16:59,507 --> 01:17:00,147
Speaker 7: able to serve that.

1514
01:17:00,187 --> 01:17:00,427
Speaker 5: Well.

1515
01:17:00,507 --> 01:17:01,347
Speaker 7: Does that make sense?

1516
01:17:01,587 --> 01:17:01,907
Speaker 2: It does?

1517
01:17:01,987 --> 01:17:04,107
Speaker 4: It makes Yes. I know exactly where you're going with that,

1518
01:17:04,187 --> 01:17:06,187
Speaker 4: exactly where you're going. Yes, I nila all in that.

1519
01:17:06,547 --> 01:17:09,467
Speaker 4: And then late late last night about eleven forty five

1520
01:17:09,507 --> 01:17:12,547
Speaker 4: out time, the Phoenix kicked off against Perth Glory over

1521
01:17:12,787 --> 01:17:16,307
Speaker 4: in Perth and by midnight they were already too kneeled down.

1522
01:17:17,067 --> 01:17:20,427
Speaker 4: I was starting to really worry about Wellington Phoenix. But

1523
01:17:20,467 --> 01:17:22,907
Speaker 4: after that I thought they were very good.

1524
01:17:23,947 --> 01:17:26,107
Speaker 7: Yeah, I heard you were reading their last rites Piney,

1525
01:17:26,147 --> 01:17:30,107
Speaker 7: you got a priest and and everything, But I was

1526
01:17:31,907 --> 01:17:35,547
Speaker 7: I was concerned for them as well. Wellington Phoenix and

1527
01:17:36,467 --> 01:17:39,067
Speaker 7: really nicer way Strip though Cream with the with the

1528
01:17:39,067 --> 01:17:42,067
Speaker 7: green trim and the green numbers, sort of very county

1529
01:17:42,387 --> 01:17:45,787
Speaker 7: cricket as shi if you like. But they they started

1530
01:17:45,907 --> 01:17:49,627
Speaker 7: the ship. They've got things going again. Where I guess

1531
01:17:49,747 --> 01:17:54,547
Speaker 7: Chief the coach, he loves to tempt the other team

1532
01:17:54,627 --> 01:17:58,107
Speaker 7: into their into the trap and then and the encounter,

1533
01:17:58,427 --> 01:18:01,227
Speaker 7: and I thought there was Their goals were really really

1534
01:18:01,227 --> 01:18:05,107
Speaker 7: good Wellington Phoenix. I do have grave concerns about their defense,

1535
01:18:05,187 --> 01:18:08,827
Speaker 7: but hopefully Chief he's going to plan for that. But yeah,

1536
01:18:09,027 --> 01:18:11,107
Speaker 7: you know, I'm not a bad point to win over

1537
01:18:11,147 --> 01:18:11,747
Speaker 7: in Perth.

1538
01:18:11,907 --> 01:18:13,947
Speaker 4: Absolutely not from two all down. You take two all

1539
01:18:13,947 --> 01:18:15,627
Speaker 4: every day of the week. And you're right. Their defense

1540
01:18:16,107 --> 01:18:18,307
Speaker 4: they played a high line and it looked like absolute

1541
01:18:18,307 --> 01:18:21,387
Speaker 4: suicide for the first twenty minutes, but maybe they were

1542
01:18:21,427 --> 01:18:23,067
Speaker 4: just getting used to it. But the two goals, you're right,

1543
01:18:23,107 --> 01:18:25,747
Speaker 4: were really well constructed and there's a bit of promise there,

1544
01:18:25,747 --> 01:18:28,627
Speaker 4: particularly from a couple of the new players staying with football.

1545
01:18:28,667 --> 01:18:32,227
Speaker 4: Aposta Cooglu has been shown the door at Nottingham Forest,

1546
01:18:32,707 --> 01:18:34,947
Speaker 4: just over a month after he took over his boss.

1547
01:18:34,987 --> 01:18:37,667
Speaker 4: I think it's if it's not the shortest tenure in

1548
01:18:37,707 --> 01:18:40,107
Speaker 4: Premier League history, then it's pretty close to it. We

1549
01:18:40,227 --> 01:18:42,987
Speaker 4: know Chris Wood is at Nottingham Forest. What did you

1550
01:18:43,067 --> 01:18:43,747
Speaker 4: make of all of this?

1551
01:18:45,347 --> 01:18:48,347
Speaker 7: I think it was always doomed, like it was just

1552
01:18:48,347 --> 01:18:50,827
Speaker 7: a terrible idea to sack a really good coach that

1553
01:18:50,907 --> 01:18:52,907
Speaker 7: they had in the first place and bringing in Hand

1554
01:18:53,027 --> 01:18:56,467
Speaker 7: who has his own ways and systems. Unless it's aligned

1555
01:18:56,467 --> 01:18:59,227
Speaker 7: with what Forests have been doing in the past two years,

1556
01:18:59,307 --> 01:19:00,147
Speaker 7: why even bother?

1557
01:19:00,547 --> 01:19:00,787
Speaker 9: You know.

1558
01:19:00,867 --> 01:19:03,507
Speaker 7: That's that was my feeling. So Peel sorry for Hand

1559
01:19:03,627 --> 01:19:05,987
Speaker 7: and the sense that I think it was a hospital pass.

1560
01:19:06,747 --> 01:19:10,347
Speaker 7: Eight games, six losses and two draws. They lost to

1561
01:19:10,427 --> 01:19:15,627
Speaker 7: Chelsea last night overnight three Nils seventeen minutes after full time.

1562
01:19:15,747 --> 01:19:16,507
Speaker 6: He was sacked.

1563
01:19:16,907 --> 01:19:23,187
Speaker 7: So their owner is crazy Nottingham Forest, so even taking

1564
01:19:23,187 --> 01:19:27,027
Speaker 7: the job I think was a bit of a trap,

1565
01:19:27,107 --> 01:19:29,747
Speaker 7: you know. But Chris Wood was on the bench when

1566
01:19:29,747 --> 01:19:31,747
Speaker 7: they had a couple of good chances early in the game,

1567
01:19:31,827 --> 01:19:34,987
Speaker 7: so I think, well, come on, Inge, I mean, you

1568
01:19:35,027 --> 01:19:39,267
Speaker 7: can't take we made the Premier League Team of the Year. Okay,

1569
01:19:39,587 --> 01:19:42,667
Speaker 7: I know he's just the key to you, but everybody

1570
01:19:42,747 --> 01:19:44,667
Speaker 7: over there is one of the best strikers in the league,

1571
01:19:44,747 --> 01:19:45,867
Speaker 7: So what are you doing mate?

1572
01:19:46,267 --> 01:19:49,627
Speaker 4: Indeed, I think they're talking about Sean Dosh being a

1573
01:19:49,667 --> 01:19:54,747
Speaker 4: potential replacement. But he was I think, wasn't he?

1574
01:19:55,507 --> 01:19:55,587
Speaker 23: No?

1575
01:19:56,387 --> 01:19:58,587
Speaker 4: No, you see what was he was Chris Wood? Chris

1576
01:19:58,587 --> 01:20:02,347
Speaker 4: Wood's boss at Burnley. Wasn't he when Chris? Yeah, so

1577
01:20:02,507 --> 01:20:06,387
Speaker 4: he's a fan of Chris Wood. So that's good, isn't it.

1578
01:20:06,347 --> 01:20:08,427
Speaker 7: It should be he should realize that Chris Wood is

1579
01:20:08,467 --> 01:20:10,747
Speaker 7: a lot better player than what he had at Burnley

1580
01:20:10,787 --> 01:20:12,907
Speaker 7: because I think he used to sort of have him

1581
01:20:12,947 --> 01:20:15,227
Speaker 7: on the bench a little bit. Not always, but yeah,

1582
01:20:15,427 --> 01:20:17,427
Speaker 7: they had a sort of a strike duo there. I

1583
01:20:17,467 --> 01:20:20,627
Speaker 7: forget the name of the other guy, but yeah, Chris

1584
01:20:20,627 --> 01:20:23,707
Speaker 7: Wood now is you know, he's a complete package and

1585
01:20:24,027 --> 01:20:26,907
Speaker 7: whoever takes over needs to recognize that. Yeah, I've lost

1586
01:20:27,507 --> 01:20:30,707
Speaker 7: a couple of players, but to be honest, Forrest shouldn't

1587
01:20:30,747 --> 01:20:33,667
Speaker 7: be where they are. And Andrew was probably I mean,

1588
01:20:33,707 --> 01:20:36,867
Speaker 7: they had to do something. And it's probably fair.

1589
01:20:37,507 --> 01:20:41,307
Speaker 4: Fun fact about Sean dish for you he played alongside

1590
01:20:41,347 --> 01:20:42,987
Speaker 4: Paul Eifel at Millwall.

1591
01:20:44,947 --> 01:20:48,867
Speaker 7: Millwall, nobody likes us, we don't care, Yes, so.

1592
01:20:48,987 --> 01:20:51,667
Speaker 4: Yeah, look I didn't you didn't greek that with the

1593
01:20:52,107 --> 01:20:56,307
Speaker 4: enthusiasm I hope for from a fun fact that's okay.

1594
01:20:56,507 --> 01:20:59,307
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe Tim Young, Tim Cagle was there. I'm not

1595
01:20:59,347 --> 01:21:01,707
Speaker 7: sure he was. Good players that have gone through there

1596
01:21:01,787 --> 01:21:03,027
Speaker 7: sharing him as well.

1597
01:21:03,387 --> 01:21:05,987
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely no, no Milwall Yeah, a bit of a

1598
01:21:05,987 --> 01:21:09,787
Speaker 4: back order when it comes to uh, well, I won't

1599
01:21:09,787 --> 01:21:12,187
Speaker 4: finish that sentence. James. Good to chat to you, mate.

1600
01:21:12,747 --> 01:21:14,107
Speaker 4: Shall we do it again next Sunday?

1601
01:21:14,667 --> 01:21:14,907
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1602
01:21:14,947 --> 01:21:18,227
Speaker 7: Why not? I'm around if you have me. Thanks finally

1603
01:21:18,387 --> 01:21:18,987
Speaker 7: always here.

1604
01:21:19,707 --> 01:21:22,067
Speaker 4: Good on you, James. James mcconey huge part of our

1605
01:21:22,067 --> 01:21:25,427
Speaker 4: Sundays this time or thereabouts every Sunday afternoon. Catch him

1606
01:21:25,707 --> 01:21:28,827
Speaker 4: on the Craigos Wild alternative commentary collective and across his

1607
01:21:28,907 --> 01:21:31,147
Speaker 4: social media platforms as well. Seven and a halfway from

1608
01:21:31,147 --> 01:21:31,987
Speaker 4: two new Stalks at Me.

1609
01:21:33,627 --> 01:21:36,267
Speaker 1: The Good from the track Fields and the Court on

1610
01:21:36,427 --> 01:21:42,667
Speaker 1: your Home of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Vine.

1611
01:21:41,507 --> 01:21:45,027
Speaker 4: Nijeel says, yes, it is State Highway one between Dunedin

1612
01:21:45,107 --> 01:21:47,747
Speaker 4: and christ Church. Fin Hurley could walk up that highway

1613
01:21:47,747 --> 01:21:50,387
Speaker 4: and still get a speeding ticket. He can pedal. It

1614
01:21:50,467 --> 01:21:52,027
Speaker 4: was great to see him come on the other night,

1615
01:21:52,107 --> 01:21:54,107
Speaker 4: wasn't it, Fin Hurley? But then he went off, didn't

1616
01:21:54,107 --> 01:21:57,427
Speaker 4: he with what looked like a hamstring or something like that,

1617
01:21:57,507 --> 01:22:01,107
Speaker 4: And that must be entirely frustrating for a bloke who's

1618
01:22:01,107 --> 01:22:04,147
Speaker 4: taken so long to get back from injury, but get

1619
01:22:04,187 --> 01:22:05,707
Speaker 4: to try and then has to go off again. Hopefully

1620
01:22:05,707 --> 01:22:07,907
Speaker 4: he might be right for the final, Shane says Piney.

1621
01:22:07,947 --> 01:22:09,987
Speaker 4: Do you know that the Kiwis play some more tonight

1622
01:22:09,987 --> 01:22:13,387
Speaker 4: at six both stacked teams that should be talked about. Shane,

1623
01:22:13,387 --> 01:22:15,707
Speaker 4: you are in luck. You are in luck, my friend,

1624
01:22:15,747 --> 01:22:18,307
Speaker 4: because after two we're going to do exactly that. We're

1625
01:22:18,307 --> 01:22:22,067
Speaker 4: going to talk rugby league and the Pacific Nations Cup.

1626
01:22:22,147 --> 01:22:27,347
Speaker 4: Phoenix Crossland, the Newcastle Knights utility and Kiwi's utility is

1627
01:22:27,387 --> 01:22:29,827
Speaker 4: going to join us on the show. The women play

1628
01:22:29,867 --> 01:22:32,467
Speaker 4: some more at three point thirty five, the men's game

1629
01:22:32,707 --> 01:22:35,347
Speaker 4: just after six tonight, So yes, we'll talk rugby league

1630
01:22:35,587 --> 01:22:39,387
Speaker 4: after two o'clock, and the everest as well will be

1631
01:22:39,467 --> 01:22:42,107
Speaker 4: a talking point after two.

1632
01:22:42,467 --> 01:22:45,387
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1633
01:22:45,747 --> 01:22:49,667
Speaker 1: and after fields. It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason

1634
01:22:49,747 --> 01:22:51,587
Speaker 1: Vaide on your home of.

1635
01:22:51,587 --> 01:22:54,027
Speaker 2: Sport Talk.

1636
01:22:55,387 --> 01:22:57,907
Speaker 4: Two o seven. Welcome into Weekend Sport on News Talks

1637
01:22:58,027 --> 01:23:01,187
Speaker 4: bear z B. We're here until three. After that the

1638
01:23:01,227 --> 01:23:04,267
Speaker 4: Weekend Collective with Tim Beveridge. Before we get there quite

1639
01:23:04,267 --> 01:23:06,667
Speaker 4: a bit to get through a lot of feedback on

1640
01:23:06,827 --> 01:23:10,827
Speaker 4: our chat with lou Vincent earlier today that is now online.

1641
01:23:10,827 --> 01:23:13,387
Speaker 4: If you missed it, you can hear the full interview

1642
01:23:13,427 --> 01:23:17,027
Speaker 4: at NEWSTALKSDB dot co dot Nz or on iHeartRadio. Just

1643
01:23:17,067 --> 01:23:20,027
Speaker 4: search Weekend Sport with Jason Pine and you will find it.

1644
01:23:20,107 --> 01:23:25,507
Speaker 4: A hugely enlightening chat with lou Vincent this afternoon between

1645
01:23:25,507 --> 01:23:28,627
Speaker 4: now and three International Rugby League double header at go

1646
01:23:28,707 --> 01:23:31,467
Speaker 4: Media Stadium this afternoon and into the evening. Keywi Was

1647
01:23:31,547 --> 01:23:36,387
Speaker 4: Utility Phoenix Crossland is with us shortly at Randwick yesterday,

1648
01:23:36,667 --> 01:23:40,707
Speaker 4: New Zealand bred horse ka Ying Rising confirmed his superstar

1649
01:23:40,947 --> 01:23:45,467
Speaker 4: status winning the world's richest race on turf, the Everest.

1650
01:23:45,947 --> 01:23:48,067
Speaker 4: He was bred here in New Zealand by Fraser Auret,

1651
01:23:48,067 --> 01:23:49,987
Speaker 4: who joins us for a chat. We'll cover off in

1652
01:23:50,027 --> 01:23:53,147
Speaker 4: a league, football and the latest from stateside with our

1653
01:23:53,227 --> 01:23:57,747
Speaker 4: US sports expertly on Busby, including this remarkable baseball performance

1654
01:23:57,747 --> 01:24:02,267
Speaker 4: in recent times from Shohei Otani. Just how unique is

1655
01:24:02,587 --> 01:24:05,827
Speaker 4: what he is doing? How unique is it He is

1656
01:24:06,067 --> 01:24:10,227
Speaker 4: a top quality picture but can also hit home runs. Incredible,

1657
01:24:10,547 --> 01:24:12,587
Speaker 4: incredible stuff, So we'll cover that off as well. Life

1658
01:24:12,587 --> 01:24:16,547
Speaker 4: sport this afternoon Hartland Championship Lahure Cup final about to

1659
01:24:16,587 --> 01:24:19,627
Speaker 4: get under way North Otago against Hollifan newer Corpany will

1660
01:24:19,667 --> 01:24:22,467
Speaker 4: keep you updated on that as well. You can get

1661
01:24:22,507 --> 01:24:24,187
Speaker 4: in touch with the show if you would like to.

1662
01:24:24,387 --> 01:24:26,947
Speaker 4: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the phone number nine

1663
01:24:27,027 --> 01:24:30,707
Speaker 4: two ninety two for your text messages. But as we

1664
01:24:30,747 --> 01:24:33,387
Speaker 4: always do on weekend sport, at around about this time,

1665
01:24:34,147 --> 01:24:36,227
Speaker 4: which is eight past two, it's time to catch you

1666
01:24:36,307 --> 01:24:38,587
Speaker 4: up on some of the stuff that you may have

1667
01:24:38,667 --> 01:24:40,627
Speaker 4: missed over the last little while. There's been a whole

1668
01:24:40,667 --> 01:24:43,587
Speaker 4: heap of sport on and there's no way you could

1669
01:24:43,627 --> 01:24:45,907
Speaker 4: possibly have kept up with all of it. Well you might,

1670
01:24:46,547 --> 01:24:49,347
Speaker 4: but there might be some stuff you missed, starting with

1671
01:24:49,387 --> 01:24:53,347
Speaker 4: the NPC the second semi final between Canterbury and Hawk's

1672
01:24:53,387 --> 01:24:55,547
Speaker 4: Bay in christ Church last night.

1673
01:24:55,507 --> 01:24:57,627
Speaker 20: Bell with me back to print a boy.

1674
01:24:58,667 --> 01:25:02,027
Speaker 19: It's a an all that stand and Canterbury beat Hawks

1675
01:25:02,067 --> 01:25:07,627
Speaker 19: Bay forty three nineteen and will host Otago bud x MPC.

1676
01:25:07,467 --> 01:25:10,347
Speaker 4: Final down the road and ash Burton. Earlier yesterday the

1677
01:25:10,347 --> 01:25:15,027
Speaker 4: Heartland Championships Meads Cup final mid Canterbury against Thames Valley.

1678
01:25:15,227 --> 01:25:20,267
Speaker 19: Time counting down, there's the hotel there, it's Hammer time

1679
01:25:20,467 --> 01:25:24,387
Speaker 19: and ass Burton met Canterbury the third Meets.

1680
01:25:24,187 --> 01:25:27,827
Speaker 20: Top title, having won in twenty thirteen and twenty fourteenth.

1681
01:25:27,907 --> 01:25:31,427
Speaker 26: They are the twenty twenty five Meets Cup.

1682
01:25:31,387 --> 01:25:35,147
Speaker 4: Champion, med Canterbury winning that one. Twenty one eighteen two

1683
01:25:35,307 --> 01:25:39,187
Speaker 4: A League football. Auckland FC opening their season away at

1684
01:25:39,187 --> 01:25:40,587
Speaker 4: Melbourne Victory last night.

1685
01:25:40,507 --> 01:25:44,627
Speaker 20: But in a game a few chances we saw that defensively.

1686
01:25:45,107 --> 01:25:48,267
Speaker 20: These two sides which featured all the way at the

1687
01:25:48,267 --> 01:25:50,987
Speaker 20: business end of last season, they will be all that

1688
01:25:51,147 --> 01:25:53,907
Speaker 20: and more again this season as we finish here at

1689
01:25:53,947 --> 01:25:57,067
Speaker 20: Amy Park, Melbourne Victory, Nell's Auckland FC.

1690
01:25:57,027 --> 01:26:00,547
Speaker 4: Neil then Wellington Phoenix stage an impressive comeback to also

1691
01:26:00,627 --> 01:26:03,227
Speaker 4: grab a point away at Perth Glory came with.

1692
01:26:03,187 --> 01:26:05,667
Speaker 2: The early call essay was he felled.

1693
01:26:05,347 --> 01:26:08,627
Speaker 27: Illegally at it because Carlo.

1694
01:26:08,467 --> 01:26:13,987
Speaker 28: Armiento, on a league men's debut with Wellington Phoenix, draws

1695
01:26:14,027 --> 01:26:16,507
Speaker 28: them back level from two nil down.

1696
01:26:17,187 --> 01:26:20,667
Speaker 4: It is two two in the distance, Derby Man. That's

1697
01:26:20,667 --> 01:26:23,267
Speaker 4: the way it finished to the Premier League. Nottingham Forest

1698
01:26:23,387 --> 01:26:27,507
Speaker 4: have five manager and Posta Coglu after a three nil

1699
01:26:27,587 --> 01:26:31,587
Speaker 4: home defeat by Chelsea Pastavur's corner right on top of

1700
01:26:31,627 --> 01:26:32,107
Speaker 4: the key tap.

1701
01:26:32,387 --> 01:26:35,307
Speaker 29: Ryce James turns it in and seals the deal for.

1702
01:26:35,347 --> 01:26:41,467
Speaker 5: Chelsea and cars Ange Trostakovu in an even more uncomfortable spotlights.

1703
01:26:40,907 --> 01:26:43,627
Speaker 4: Ange Posta Coglo sacked after the final whistle. He was

1704
01:26:43,707 --> 01:26:47,187
Speaker 4: only in the job for thirty nine days. Meantime, there

1705
01:26:47,227 --> 01:26:51,187
Speaker 4: was a thriller at Selhurst Park where visitors Bournemouth scored

1706
01:26:51,227 --> 01:26:54,027
Speaker 4: late to take the lead on the Chavinier.

1707
01:26:54,507 --> 01:26:59,707
Speaker 27: Oh It's three chilt corners in the eighty.

1708
01:26:59,547 --> 01:27:03,147
Speaker 4: Ninety critics, only for an injury time penalty to give

1709
01:27:03,187 --> 01:27:04,747
Speaker 4: Crystal Palace a share of the points.

1710
01:27:04,867 --> 01:27:10,107
Speaker 2: The true what.

1711
01:27:11,667 --> 01:27:12,267
Speaker 29: This Jain.

1712
01:27:12,747 --> 01:27:15,987
Speaker 4: Rain has scuppered New Zealand's chances against England in the

1713
01:27:15,987 --> 01:27:18,987
Speaker 4: first T twenty cricket International and christ Jurch the black

1714
01:27:19,027 --> 01:27:21,307
Speaker 4: Caps took six England wickets.

1715
01:27:23,107 --> 01:27:27,507
Speaker 18: At one into the night sky, Darryl Mitchell settling underneath

1716
01:27:27,547 --> 01:27:29,027
Speaker 18: it takes it.

1717
01:27:29,027 --> 01:27:31,827
Speaker 4: It's good safe fear of hands and England made one

1718
01:27:31,867 --> 01:27:34,307
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty three for six and their twenty overs,

1719
01:27:34,307 --> 01:27:36,307
Speaker 4: but New Zealand didn't even have the chance to start

1720
01:27:36,347 --> 01:27:39,947
Speaker 4: their run chase before the rain came. Speaking of rain,

1721
01:27:40,067 --> 01:27:42,507
Speaker 4: the White Ferns have taken a point from a World

1722
01:27:42,547 --> 01:27:46,867
Speaker 4: Cup washout against Pakistan and Colombo. New Zealand took five

1723
01:27:47,107 --> 01:27:49,347
Speaker 4: Pakistan wickets before the rain came.

1724
01:27:51,747 --> 01:27:52,187
Speaker 16: Got up.

1725
01:27:52,347 --> 01:27:55,747
Speaker 30: Didn't pick the goodly merely care it's got it on

1726
01:27:55,787 --> 01:27:59,507
Speaker 30: a string. Tonight she takes the big wicket of Fatimasan.

1727
01:27:59,747 --> 01:28:01,987
Speaker 4: The White Ferns fourth equal on the table with two

1728
01:28:01,987 --> 01:28:04,507
Speaker 4: games to play, they probably have to win them both

1729
01:28:04,587 --> 01:28:07,587
Speaker 4: if they are to make the semifinals. Liam Lawson has

1730
01:28:07,587 --> 01:28:10,227
Speaker 4: finished ninth in the sprint race at the United States

1731
01:28:10,227 --> 01:28:13,027
Speaker 4: Grand Prix in Texas, but the big news was the

1732
01:28:13,067 --> 01:28:17,547
Speaker 4: first corner carnage that knocked both McLaren's out of the race.

1733
01:28:17,907 --> 01:28:20,347
Speaker 4: The Statford gets away well as does Noris print.

1734
01:28:20,387 --> 01:28:23,307
Speaker 27: Here comes Piastree, Norris has the inside line, takes that

1735
01:28:23,427 --> 01:28:26,827
Speaker 27: second place ghost line Pas three tagles had spreads.

1736
01:28:26,907 --> 01:28:28,067
Speaker 2: Norris Randa makes.

1737
01:28:27,947 --> 01:28:31,187
Speaker 27: Contact and is a triaff rolling down the hill. There

1738
01:28:31,427 --> 01:28:34,187
Speaker 27: that has come up one of the cars and for Statford.

1739
01:28:33,787 --> 01:28:36,027
Speaker 4: Ghost claw Yeah, Red Bulls Max for Stephen won the

1740
01:28:36,107 --> 01:28:39,067
Speaker 4: nineteen lapper from the Mercedes of George Russell and the

1741
01:28:39,147 --> 01:28:44,107
Speaker 4: Williams of Carlos Signs and Hayden Wilde reigns supreme. He

1742
01:28:44,227 --> 01:28:47,707
Speaker 4: has picked up his fifth straight t one hundred World

1743
01:28:47,947 --> 01:28:51,747
Speaker 4: Tour Triathlon race title at the latest event in Woollongong.

1744
01:28:52,427 --> 01:28:55,947
Speaker 26: He goes into a sort of light job who takes

1745
01:28:55,987 --> 01:28:59,267
Speaker 26: the high fives from this amazing wooleng Gong crowd here

1746
01:28:59,307 --> 01:29:03,827
Speaker 26: in Australia. Hayden World makes it five in a row,

1747
01:29:05,027 --> 01:29:08,107
Speaker 26: a bow to the crowd because he wins the two

1748
01:29:08,107 --> 01:29:12,307
Speaker 26: one hundred here in Australia, and the tree says, could

1749
01:29:12,467 --> 01:29:16,107
Speaker 26: anyone in the world of triflon stop this Kiwi athlete

1750
01:29:16,227 --> 01:29:16,587
Speaker 26: right now?

1751
01:29:17,267 --> 01:29:20,787
Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your home of Sport, Weekend

1752
01:29:20,907 --> 01:29:22,987
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason News.

1753
01:29:22,827 --> 01:29:27,347
Speaker 4: Talks, News Talks ABN Weekend Sport fourteen past two. There's

1754
01:29:27,387 --> 01:29:30,907
Speaker 4: an international rugby league doubleheader at go Media Stadium today.

1755
01:29:30,947 --> 01:29:34,707
Speaker 4: The Pacific Championships are underway. The Kiwi Ferns play some

1756
01:29:34,867 --> 01:29:37,587
Speaker 4: more in the women's match at three point thirty five,

1757
01:29:38,027 --> 01:29:41,547
Speaker 4: followed by the Kiwis against the Suborn men from six

1758
01:29:42,107 --> 01:29:46,547
Speaker 4: Newcastle Knights and Kiwi's utility Phoenix Crossland is with us.

1759
01:29:46,547 --> 01:29:48,227
Speaker 4: So Phoenix, thanks for your time. You got your first

1760
01:29:48,267 --> 01:29:51,947
Speaker 4: taste of the Kiwi's environment last year, so how keen

1761
01:29:52,027 --> 01:29:54,467
Speaker 4: were you to get back with the national side in

1762
01:29:54,507 --> 01:29:55,307
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five.

1763
01:29:55,907 --> 01:29:57,747
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a big, big goal. I wanted to

1764
01:29:57,747 --> 01:30:01,427
Speaker 3: get back here this year, and yeah, I was sort

1765
01:30:01,427 --> 01:30:03,227
Speaker 3: of taught. To back out of the regular season in

1766
01:30:03,227 --> 01:30:06,787
Speaker 3: the NRO was something I was thinking about, Quarl to

1767
01:30:06,827 --> 01:30:08,827
Speaker 3: get the call from States and be back in camp

1768
01:30:08,907 --> 01:30:12,147
Speaker 3: and this space with these boys is yeah, pretty special.

1769
01:30:12,387 --> 01:30:14,947
Speaker 4: How much did wearing the Kiwi's jersey mean to you

1770
01:30:15,067 --> 01:30:16,707
Speaker 4: when you debuted a year ago?

1771
01:30:18,267 --> 01:30:20,787
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was one of the highlights of my life.

1772
01:30:20,867 --> 01:30:24,347
Speaker 3: And yeah, I spoke about a lot last year, how

1773
01:30:24,427 --> 01:30:27,347
Speaker 3: much my family, you know, I really love saying that,

1774
01:30:27,427 --> 01:30:29,547
Speaker 3: and how much I really loved doing it. So I

1775
01:30:29,627 --> 01:30:32,067
Speaker 3: felt really good, and not just my debut, but all

1776
01:30:32,107 --> 01:30:34,267
Speaker 3: three games I played last year. We're pretty special and

1777
01:30:34,667 --> 01:30:37,027
Speaker 3: fingers crossed to get to do it again this year.

1778
01:30:37,587 --> 01:30:39,747
Speaker 4: You turned down a course, you know, the chance to

1779
01:30:39,747 --> 01:30:41,827
Speaker 4: play for Australia and that would amense state of origin

1780
01:30:41,907 --> 01:30:45,867
Speaker 4: possibilities as well by declaring your allegiance to New Zealand.

1781
01:30:46,067 --> 01:30:48,187
Speaker 4: Was that only any way a difficult decision for you

1782
01:30:48,347 --> 01:30:48,627
Speaker 4: to make?

1783
01:30:50,667 --> 01:30:52,947
Speaker 3: Not really, I was sort of a thing I didn't

1784
01:30:52,947 --> 01:30:56,307
Speaker 3: really think about until I started my name started getting

1785
01:30:56,347 --> 01:30:59,747
Speaker 3: sort of throwing around to represent New Zealand and you know,

1786
01:30:59,827 --> 01:31:02,147
Speaker 3: it was sort of as soon as the opportunity came up,

1787
01:31:02,187 --> 01:31:04,867
Speaker 3: I took with both hands. And you know, I don't

1788
01:31:04,867 --> 01:31:07,227
Speaker 3: think my family would have wanted to it any other way,

1789
01:31:07,307 --> 01:31:10,187
Speaker 3: and me as well. So you know, being in this

1790
01:31:10,267 --> 01:31:13,027
Speaker 3: space is really special. I know I made the right choice.

1791
01:31:13,107 --> 01:31:16,707
Speaker 3: And yeah, it means not being able to play going

1792
01:31:16,747 --> 01:31:19,147
Speaker 3: down that other path of origin and stuff, but you

1793
01:31:19,227 --> 01:31:20,787
Speaker 3: know it doesn't pay any one bit because I love

1794
01:31:20,867 --> 01:31:22,507
Speaker 3: being here and this is you know.

1795
01:31:23,027 --> 01:31:23,427
Speaker 6: Is it for me?

1796
01:31:23,987 --> 01:31:26,507
Speaker 4: Tell us about your family ties with New Zealand and

1797
01:31:26,787 --> 01:31:27,667
Speaker 4: just how strong they are.

1798
01:31:29,267 --> 01:31:31,227
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so I'm not too familiar with my dad's libe.

1799
01:31:31,387 --> 01:31:32,507
Speaker 6: They are from New Zealand.

1800
01:31:32,547 --> 01:31:35,987
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they're from Hamilton area and then you know,

1801
01:31:36,587 --> 01:31:39,067
Speaker 3: more connected to my mom's side and there you know

1802
01:31:39,187 --> 01:31:42,507
Speaker 3: Wellington and the West Coast, Graymouth and you know all

1803
01:31:42,547 --> 01:31:46,547
Speaker 3: down there, so both sides of New Zealand, but you know,

1804
01:31:46,827 --> 01:31:48,987
Speaker 3: Mum's size probably the side that I connect with more.

1805
01:31:49,067 --> 01:31:52,467
Speaker 3: And yeah, they're they're West Coast, the rugby league born

1806
01:31:52,507 --> 01:31:55,747
Speaker 3: and bred down there, so it was yeah, they're to

1807
01:31:55,747 --> 01:31:56,227
Speaker 3: see me here.

1808
01:31:56,427 --> 01:31:59,107
Speaker 4: Tell us about the Keywis environment. What was it like

1809
01:31:59,187 --> 01:32:00,987
Speaker 4: to come into last year and does it now have

1810
01:32:01,067 --> 01:32:04,147
Speaker 4: a bit of a feeling of familiarity about it for

1811
01:32:04,267 --> 01:32:06,267
Speaker 4: you now that you've you've been there before.

1812
01:32:06,427 --> 01:32:09,307
Speaker 6: What, Yeah, last year was pretty pretty scary.

1813
01:32:09,307 --> 01:32:11,547
Speaker 3: I didn't really know any of the boys and other

1814
01:32:11,627 --> 01:32:12,427
Speaker 3: than bursing.

1815
01:32:12,227 --> 01:32:13,347
Speaker 6: Them, you know, throughout the year.

1816
01:32:13,427 --> 01:32:16,147
Speaker 3: But it's honestly, it was like it was so easy,

1817
01:32:16,427 --> 01:32:18,787
Speaker 3: like that did so well to meet and everyone and

1818
01:32:19,027 --> 01:32:21,147
Speaker 3: you know the space that you know, the leaders are

1819
01:32:21,187 --> 01:32:24,427
Speaker 3: created here and this year's probably been a bit easier

1820
01:32:24,547 --> 01:32:26,187
Speaker 3: and you know, I'm familiar with all the boys and

1821
01:32:26,467 --> 01:32:28,867
Speaker 3: the way we want to play in the coaches and stuff.

1822
01:32:28,947 --> 01:32:31,747
Speaker 3: So it was just this year was probably more a

1823
01:32:31,747 --> 01:32:35,227
Speaker 3: little bit more relaxed and excited, I guess to come

1824
01:32:35,307 --> 01:32:37,827
Speaker 3: back and not have those sort of you know, first

1825
01:32:37,867 --> 01:32:40,587
Speaker 3: time meeting everyone nerves. But you still get a little

1826
01:32:40,667 --> 01:32:42,867
Speaker 3: few butterflies when you first come in because now it's

1827
01:32:43,067 --> 01:32:45,787
Speaker 3: a big occasion for the country and and this team.

1828
01:32:45,907 --> 01:32:48,427
Speaker 3: So but at the end of the day, it's it's

1829
01:32:48,467 --> 01:32:49,027
Speaker 3: really special.

1830
01:32:49,227 --> 01:32:51,627
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is the special dynamic around a national team?

1831
01:32:51,667 --> 01:32:53,987
Speaker 4: I mean, you've been part of elite rugby league teams

1832
01:32:53,987 --> 01:32:55,747
Speaker 4: and I want to talk about Newcastle in the moment,

1833
01:32:55,827 --> 01:32:59,747
Speaker 4: but is it a different kind of dynamic when you

1834
01:32:59,827 --> 01:33:02,107
Speaker 4: get together with a national team.

1835
01:33:04,267 --> 01:33:04,587
Speaker 15: It is.

1836
01:33:04,747 --> 01:33:08,347
Speaker 3: I guess it's just like it's just such an elite environment,

1837
01:33:08,427 --> 01:33:09,747
Speaker 3: like you just got the best of the best from

1838
01:33:09,787 --> 01:33:12,427
Speaker 3: all the different clubs and you look around at.

1839
01:33:12,347 --> 01:33:14,387
Speaker 6: Some of the players that you're eating dinner with and

1840
01:33:14,467 --> 01:33:16,987
Speaker 6: then taking the field with. It's it's it's pretty crazy.

1841
01:33:17,067 --> 01:33:19,467
Speaker 3: Obviously only my second year, so I still pinch myself

1842
01:33:19,547 --> 01:33:21,667
Speaker 3: to you know, lace up the booths with fish and

1843
01:33:21,867 --> 01:33:23,107
Speaker 3: you know, care and four and this year.

1844
01:33:23,187 --> 01:33:25,507
Speaker 6: So it is, it is, It is pretty cool.

1845
01:33:25,547 --> 01:33:27,187
Speaker 3: And then I guess when you go back to clubland,

1846
01:33:27,227 --> 01:33:28,707
Speaker 3: you're expected to be more of a leader, So I

1847
01:33:28,747 --> 01:33:31,867
Speaker 3: guess that's sort of in those areas they're sort of different.

1848
01:33:31,907 --> 01:33:34,587
Speaker 3: But I guess, yeah, it's probably a bit more a

1849
01:33:34,627 --> 01:33:36,427
Speaker 3: bit there's probably more eyes on you at this level

1850
01:33:36,507 --> 01:33:38,827
Speaker 3: and maybe a little bit more expectation.

1851
01:33:39,027 --> 01:33:41,227
Speaker 6: But you know, it's all good, and it's it's all

1852
01:33:41,507 --> 01:33:42,307
Speaker 6: it's all privileged.

1853
01:33:42,547 --> 01:33:45,187
Speaker 4: You have been a first grade regular for the Newcastle

1854
01:33:45,267 --> 01:33:47,467
Speaker 4: Knights now for well the best part of the last

1855
01:33:47,507 --> 01:33:51,787
Speaker 4: four seasons. Where have the biggest areas of growth come

1856
01:33:51,987 --> 01:33:52,627
Speaker 4: in your game?

1857
01:33:54,867 --> 01:33:56,627
Speaker 6: I guess like just leadership.

1858
01:33:56,667 --> 01:33:59,547
Speaker 3: I've always sort of been started pretty young playing at

1859
01:33:59,587 --> 01:34:01,747
Speaker 3: the you know that level, and it was had to start.

1860
01:34:01,747 --> 01:34:02,427
Speaker 6: It was pretty scary.

1861
01:34:02,467 --> 01:34:04,427
Speaker 3: But I guess when you're you know, you're in these

1862
01:34:04,507 --> 01:34:06,707
Speaker 3: environments and you go back to Clubland and got those

1863
01:34:06,747 --> 01:34:10,267
Speaker 3: younger boys, had a looking for guidance and you know, leadership.

1864
01:34:10,307 --> 01:34:12,147
Speaker 3: It's probably one of the biggest things that you know,

1865
01:34:12,227 --> 01:34:14,827
Speaker 3: I've taken and taken back to Newcastle, which is which

1866
01:34:14,867 --> 01:34:17,427
Speaker 3: is really cool. So I'd say my leadership and just

1867
01:34:17,707 --> 01:34:19,227
Speaker 3: you know, a little just to pick up little things

1868
01:34:19,227 --> 01:34:20,987
Speaker 3: on preparation off some of the boys and use it

1869
01:34:21,027 --> 01:34:23,587
Speaker 3: in your own game. But yeah, for me, it's just

1870
01:34:23,867 --> 01:34:26,427
Speaker 3: you know, going back to Clubland and then helping those

1871
01:34:26,667 --> 01:34:28,787
Speaker 3: younger boys and overrun.

1872
01:34:28,827 --> 01:34:30,827
Speaker 6: To be honest, it's yeah, leadership definitely.

1873
01:34:31,227 --> 01:34:34,307
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five was a challenging year for Newcastle. How

1874
01:34:34,347 --> 01:34:35,947
Speaker 4: will you look to put that behind you when you

1875
01:34:36,427 --> 01:34:37,747
Speaker 4: reassemble for pre season.

1876
01:34:39,347 --> 01:34:40,747
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was pretty tough.

1877
01:34:40,867 --> 01:34:44,067
Speaker 3: The last sort of six weeks was yeah, not ideal

1878
01:34:44,147 --> 01:34:47,347
Speaker 3: for the club and for the town and but I

1879
01:34:47,427 --> 01:34:50,587
Speaker 3: guess I don't know, it's sort of it's hopefully pretty

1880
01:34:50,587 --> 01:34:52,907
Speaker 3: easy to forget about that because it's you know, as

1881
01:34:52,947 --> 01:34:55,027
Speaker 3: a club, it's rock bottom and you can't really get

1882
01:34:55,107 --> 01:34:58,547
Speaker 3: much worse, so hopefully just just flush it down until

1883
01:34:58,547 --> 01:35:01,187
Speaker 3: we've got a new coaching staff coming in a lot

1884
01:35:01,187 --> 01:35:02,707
Speaker 3: of turnover and players, so there's going to be a

1885
01:35:02,747 --> 01:35:02,987
Speaker 3: lot of.

1886
01:35:03,307 --> 01:35:05,627
Speaker 6: A lot of fresh faces and a lot of fresh ideas.

1887
01:35:05,627 --> 01:35:08,627
Speaker 3: So I'm really excited get back there after this and yeah,

1888
01:35:08,747 --> 01:35:11,107
Speaker 3: recess and and go again because we know we can

1889
01:35:11,147 --> 01:35:11,507
Speaker 3: win games.

1890
01:35:11,547 --> 01:35:13,667
Speaker 6: We've got to. You know, it's one bad you've had,

1891
01:35:13,707 --> 01:35:16,147
Speaker 6: so yeah, flush it down to till and go again.

1892
01:35:16,307 --> 01:35:20,267
Speaker 4: And back to the Kiwi's Obviously you're a utility. You've got,

1893
01:35:21,027 --> 01:35:22,787
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of strings to your bow. What

1894
01:35:22,907 --> 01:35:25,547
Speaker 4: do you think your best role to play what the

1895
01:35:25,627 --> 01:35:26,227
Speaker 4: kiwis is?

1896
01:35:27,907 --> 01:35:30,827
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, it's sort of You've got Jemie

1897
01:35:30,867 --> 01:35:34,787
Speaker 3: Marsham King here who's an elite nine, So yeah, I

1898
01:35:34,827 --> 01:35:38,027
Speaker 3: can cover a lot of positions, so I'll be staked anywhere,

1899
01:35:38,107 --> 01:35:40,747
Speaker 3: but you know fourteen is probably you know where I

1900
01:35:40,827 --> 01:35:42,747
Speaker 3: see myself in this team, and it's it's unreal.

1901
01:35:42,787 --> 01:35:45,347
Speaker 6: I just love to help the team out wherever I can.

1902
01:35:45,427 --> 01:35:46,707
Speaker 6: And then you're obviously nine.

1903
01:35:46,587 --> 01:35:48,547
Speaker 3: For you my preferred position, So I get to learn

1904
01:35:48,587 --> 01:35:51,227
Speaker 3: a lot from Jazz and you know, pick some things

1905
01:35:51,267 --> 01:35:53,147
Speaker 3: up and take that back to Newcastle. But yeah, in

1906
01:35:53,227 --> 01:35:55,707
Speaker 3: this team, I think it's probably probably at fourteen if

1907
01:35:55,747 --> 01:35:58,107
Speaker 3: I if I'm in there so and it's a it's

1908
01:35:58,107 --> 01:35:59,907
Speaker 3: a privilege to put on the jersey, no matter what number.

1909
01:35:59,947 --> 01:36:01,667
Speaker 6: So I'm excited and so I.

1910
01:36:01,747 --> 01:36:06,307
Speaker 4: Followed by Tonga. Of course, I guess you don't take

1911
01:36:06,387 --> 01:36:08,627
Speaker 4: anybody likely, do you. You might think in the past

1912
01:36:08,707 --> 01:36:12,907
Speaker 4: perhaps that that the Island nations are perhaps not as

1913
01:36:13,347 --> 01:36:17,707
Speaker 4: as formidable proposition, but I guess last year probably showed

1914
01:36:17,747 --> 01:36:19,267
Speaker 4: you that no matter who you play, you got to

1915
01:36:19,307 --> 01:36:19,867
Speaker 4: turn up right.

1916
01:36:20,707 --> 01:36:23,467
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. That time of game last year was a

1917
01:36:23,507 --> 01:36:25,067
Speaker 3: big smack in the face. And I think, you know,

1918
01:36:25,387 --> 01:36:28,867
Speaker 3: at highlighted how much stronger those you know, those teams

1919
01:36:28,907 --> 01:36:31,187
Speaker 3: are getting. And it's exciting for the International Arabia League.

1920
01:36:31,187 --> 01:36:34,867
Speaker 3: It's exciting for them, it's exciting for us because you know,

1921
01:36:34,987 --> 01:36:36,547
Speaker 3: other than I guess in the in the past it

1922
01:36:36,667 --> 01:36:38,827
Speaker 3: was sort of three teams, it was England, Australian New Zealand,

1923
01:36:38,827 --> 01:36:41,587
Speaker 3: and now it's you know, there's more teams competing and

1924
01:36:41,787 --> 01:36:42,387
Speaker 3: winning games.

1925
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Speaker 6: So it's really exciting. I'm real happy to be and

1926
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Speaker 6: privileged to be versuing those sort of teams and making

1927
01:36:49,987 --> 01:36:50,987
Speaker 6: international foot.

1928
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Speaker 3: Growth because you know, this is our sort of this

1929
01:36:52,787 --> 01:36:56,267
Speaker 3: is our peak and you know, I'm proud of the

1930
01:36:56,267 --> 01:36:57,907
Speaker 3: boys are playing every team, so that's good.

1931
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Speaker 4: It must be quite nice to play Mount Smart too

1932
01:36:59,907 --> 01:37:02,787
Speaker 4: as a home player, rather than getting there and having

1933
01:37:02,787 --> 01:37:04,387
Speaker 4: to face the Warriors and their fans.

1934
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Speaker 3: Oh, I still feel like game when your first tomadare

1935
01:37:07,787 --> 01:37:09,147
Speaker 3: I's just read truth.

1936
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Speaker 6: That's good than you for everything.

1937
01:37:11,347 --> 01:37:14,667
Speaker 3: It's it's yeah, it's special, just a yeah, I guess

1938
01:37:14,747 --> 01:37:16,907
Speaker 3: to play in New Zealand and yeah, your home so

1939
01:37:17,227 --> 01:37:17,867
Speaker 3: that's pretty cool.

1940
01:37:18,067 --> 01:37:20,227
Speaker 4: A lot of excitement about these upcoming games. Phoenix, thanks

1941
01:37:20,227 --> 01:37:21,547
Speaker 4: so much for joining us, mate. I hope they go

1942
01:37:21,667 --> 01:37:24,387
Speaker 4: really well for you and appreciate you taking the time today.

1943
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Speaker 6: Thanks for I appreciate it.

1944
01:37:25,987 --> 01:37:28,147
Speaker 4: No, I appreciate you joining us, Phoenix, Phoenix, Crossland. There

1945
01:37:28,147 --> 01:37:31,267
Speaker 4: out of the Kiwi's, I just had a colleague get

1946
01:37:31,387 --> 01:37:35,307
Speaker 4: in touch from GO media saying most cars here are

1947
01:37:35,387 --> 01:37:38,587
Speaker 4: covered in some orn flags. Everybody walking around has a

1948
01:37:38,667 --> 01:37:40,907
Speaker 4: some more jersey on. I haven't seen a single Kiwis

1949
01:37:40,947 --> 01:37:44,147
Speaker 4: one yet, so yeah, a home game maybe for New Zealand,

1950
01:37:44,187 --> 01:37:46,427
Speaker 4: but against some more this afternoon for the women and

1951
01:37:46,787 --> 01:37:50,067
Speaker 4: this evening for the men it might well be half

1952
01:37:50,147 --> 01:37:54,107
Speaker 4: and half if not favored in the someorn favor or

1953
01:37:54,187 --> 01:37:56,667
Speaker 4: waited in the smorn favor of that message is to

1954
01:37:56,707 --> 01:37:58,907
Speaker 4: be believed. So the Kiwi Ferns take on fifty some

1955
01:37:59,027 --> 01:38:02,707
Speaker 4: More at three point thirty five this afternoon, and then

1956
01:38:02,747 --> 01:38:05,987
Speaker 4: it's the Kiwi's against some More at five past six.

1957
01:38:06,347 --> 01:38:09,427
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, some really interesting games coming up for the

1958
01:38:09,507 --> 01:38:11,987
Speaker 4: Kiwis and the Kiwi Ferns. So next week it's Tonga.

1959
01:38:12,267 --> 01:38:16,507
Speaker 4: That's next Sunday night. In fact it's two Sundays away.

1960
01:38:17,307 --> 01:38:20,347
Speaker 4: The Pacific Championship has run over three weeks, so New

1961
01:38:20,427 --> 01:38:23,947
Speaker 4: Zealand against some More today, next week some More against Tonga,

1962
01:38:24,347 --> 01:38:27,387
Speaker 4: and the following Sunday New Zealand against Tonga. The final

1963
01:38:27,627 --> 01:38:31,587
Speaker 4: is on Sunday, November the ninth, at five past six

1964
01:38:32,907 --> 01:38:36,907
Speaker 4: Heartland Championship Rugby. The Lahore Cup final is being played

1965
01:38:37,187 --> 01:38:39,987
Speaker 4: just out of Uamadu. The home side North Otago against

1966
01:38:40,027 --> 01:38:43,107
Speaker 4: Hotofinuwa Company. Fourteen minutes gone in North Otago out to

1967
01:38:43,187 --> 01:38:45,587
Speaker 4: a fourteen erl leaders. They look to continue the South

1968
01:38:45,667 --> 01:38:49,147
Speaker 4: Island dominance of provincial rugby. This year we've got Canterbury

1969
01:38:49,187 --> 01:38:52,387
Speaker 4: and Otago in the NPC final. We had Mid Canterbury

1970
01:38:52,587 --> 01:38:57,067
Speaker 4: win the Meads Cup yesterday, North Otago ahead in the

1971
01:38:57,187 --> 01:39:01,667
Speaker 4: Lahore Cup and of course the Ramfurley Shields there as well. Jason,

1972
01:39:01,707 --> 01:39:04,947
Speaker 4: how did Hayden wild get on? Ask screg on text?

1973
01:39:05,227 --> 01:39:07,267
Speaker 4: You gave us the results for the one hundred, but

1974
01:39:07,387 --> 01:39:09,227
Speaker 4: he had another race today. Can you tell us how

1975
01:39:09,467 --> 01:39:09,867
Speaker 4: he got on?

1976
01:39:09,987 --> 01:39:10,027
Speaker 18: You?

1977
01:39:10,147 --> 01:39:13,747
Speaker 4: That races later on today? Greg, that's the Olympic distance

1978
01:39:14,227 --> 01:39:17,427
Speaker 4: triathlon format one point five k swim, forty k bike,

1979
01:39:17,627 --> 01:39:21,747
Speaker 4: ten k run underway for the men at seven o'clock

1980
01:39:21,827 --> 01:39:25,107
Speaker 4: New Zealand time, so five o'clock over in Woollongong, seven

1981
01:39:25,107 --> 01:39:27,667
Speaker 4: o'clock for us. The women's race underway at two local times,

1982
01:39:27,707 --> 01:39:30,147
Speaker 4: so what's that four o'clock for us? So yeah, those

1983
01:39:30,387 --> 01:39:33,267
Speaker 4: Olympic distance races are still to come this afternoon in

1984
01:39:33,387 --> 01:39:37,947
Speaker 4: Woollongong two twenty four here at news Talk z B.

1985
01:39:38,947 --> 01:39:41,147
Speaker 4: If you missed our chat with Luvinson, just reminding you

1986
01:39:41,267 --> 01:39:43,707
Speaker 4: that it is online, just go to news Talk zb

1987
01:39:43,747 --> 01:39:47,227
Speaker 4: dot co dot nz or search on iHeartRadio Weekend Sport

1988
01:39:47,267 --> 01:39:51,587
Speaker 4: with Jason Pine an enlightening chat with Louvins and from

1989
01:39:51,627 --> 01:39:54,587
Speaker 4: earlier on today when we come back though. New Zealand

1990
01:39:54,627 --> 01:39:59,827
Speaker 4: bred horse ka Ying Rising an absolute superstar sprinter, winning

1991
01:39:59,867 --> 01:40:04,227
Speaker 4: the world's richest race on turf yesterday, the Everest at Randwick.

1992
01:40:04,907 --> 01:40:07,627
Speaker 4: Bred here in New Zealand by Fraser Aurt. He's going

1993
01:40:07,707 --> 01:40:10,107
Speaker 4: to join us after this. On Weekend Sport to twenty four.

1994
01:40:11,307 --> 01:40:14,707
Speaker 1: The big Issues on and off the field Call eight

1995
01:40:14,827 --> 01:40:17,827
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason.

1996
01:40:17,507 --> 01:40:18,547
Speaker 2: Pinne and GJ.

1997
01:40:18,747 --> 01:40:22,427
Speaker 1: Gunderholmes, New Zealand's most trusted homebuilder News talks.

1998
01:40:22,227 --> 01:40:25,347
Speaker 4: To Baby To twenty seven. New Zealand bred horse Kaying

1999
01:40:25,507 --> 01:40:30,227
Speaker 4: Rising has confirmed his superstar status, winning the world's richest

2000
01:40:30,347 --> 01:40:34,107
Speaker 4: race on turf, the twenty million dollar the Everest Race

2001
01:40:34,267 --> 01:40:35,347
Speaker 4: at Randwick yesterday.

2002
01:40:35,987 --> 01:40:40,987
Speaker 29: Marsuin front from overpass, Kaying Rising turlings away, then Jimmy Star,

2003
01:40:41,347 --> 01:40:45,067
Speaker 29: Claire from Tempted Lady Shinanda, Johnny Star down the outside

2004
01:40:45,427 --> 01:40:49,067
Speaker 29: overpass takes the laid by Ley ka Ying Rising. Starktar

2005
01:40:49,467 --> 01:40:53,347
Speaker 29: Hurtin says, come on, boy, Shary Assies what you've got cha?

2006
01:40:53,467 --> 01:40:54,667
Speaker 2: Yang Rising moved.

2007
01:40:54,507 --> 01:40:56,867
Speaker 29: Up to overpass Clai from Jimmy Star.

2008
01:40:57,307 --> 01:40:58,507
Speaker 2: Look Kai Yang.

2009
01:40:58,427 --> 01:41:02,907
Speaker 29: Rising champions do what others cant. He's the world's bestpread

2010
01:41:02,947 --> 01:41:05,067
Speaker 29: to day down Chai Ying Rising bon.

2011
01:41:04,947 --> 01:41:09,027
Speaker 4: Day Everest indeed superbly by his regular jockey, Hong Kong

2012
01:41:09,107 --> 01:41:13,387
Speaker 4: based Australian Zach Perton. Kaying Rising settled in third, took

2013
01:41:13,467 --> 01:41:16,827
Speaker 4: the lead passing the three hundred meter mark and surged

2014
01:41:16,987 --> 01:41:20,427
Speaker 4: clear towards the line for a dominant win. It takes

2015
01:41:20,467 --> 01:41:24,347
Speaker 4: his record to fifteen wins from seventeen starts and career

2016
01:41:24,467 --> 01:41:28,827
Speaker 4: earnings to nineteen and a half million, including seven million

2017
01:41:29,067 --> 01:41:32,107
Speaker 4: for winning the Everest Yesterday. He was bred here in

2018
01:41:32,147 --> 01:41:35,507
Speaker 4: New Zealand by Fraser Aurett, who joins us now. Fraser,

2019
01:41:35,587 --> 01:41:39,107
Speaker 4: tell us about your emotions as you watched the Everest

2020
01:41:39,187 --> 01:41:39,867
Speaker 4: race yesterday.

2021
01:41:40,947 --> 01:41:43,907
Speaker 11: Oh look, it's been a heck of a journey that

2022
01:41:44,427 --> 01:41:47,147
Speaker 11: he's taken us all on. And you know, it seems

2023
01:41:47,227 --> 01:41:50,347
Speaker 11: like yesterday it was just a cute little foal running round,

2024
01:41:50,467 --> 01:41:54,267
Speaker 11: So goodness me, it's certainly a pinch yourself moment.

2025
01:41:54,547 --> 01:41:57,507
Speaker 4: Can you tell us about the story of Kaying Rising?

2026
01:41:57,547 --> 01:41:58,547
Speaker 4: Tell us about his journey?

2027
01:41:59,667 --> 01:42:03,347
Speaker 11: Yes, So I trained the mother, Missy Mooshi, ended up

2028
01:42:03,347 --> 01:42:08,107
Speaker 11: winning five races and and when she retired her owner

2029
01:42:08,227 --> 01:42:10,387
Speaker 11: wasn't too keen to sort of breed He was getting

2030
01:42:11,027 --> 01:42:14,267
Speaker 11: on a bit in age, and this was actually the

2031
01:42:14,427 --> 01:42:16,867
Speaker 11: very first horse that we ever bread, would you believe.

2032
01:42:16,947 --> 01:42:19,667
Speaker 7: And we were doing some work for Windsor.

2033
01:42:19,387 --> 01:42:22,027
Speaker 11: Park stud at the time, and we've had a couple

2034
01:42:22,107 --> 01:42:25,547
Speaker 11: of sham expresses through the stable that I really really liked,

2035
01:42:25,587 --> 01:42:28,187
Speaker 11: and so you know, we just sort of made the

2036
01:42:28,267 --> 01:42:28,867
Speaker 11: decision to.

2037
01:42:30,307 --> 01:42:32,627
Speaker 9: Delve into it really and send her there.

2038
01:42:33,027 --> 01:42:35,467
Speaker 4: Is it true your kids nicknamed him rocket when he

2039
01:42:35,587 --> 01:42:36,027
Speaker 4: was a foal.

2040
01:42:36,987 --> 01:42:38,707
Speaker 25: Yes, So when we.

2041
01:42:38,747 --> 01:42:40,787
Speaker 11: Went to pick him up from the stud when he

2042
01:42:40,867 --> 01:42:43,267
Speaker 11: was about two months old, he was roaring around the

2043
01:42:43,347 --> 01:42:45,747
Speaker 11: paddic one hundred bars an hour and all the kids

2044
01:42:45,787 --> 01:42:48,387
Speaker 11: sort of said, Dad, we've got to call this orce rocket.

2045
01:42:48,547 --> 01:42:51,827
Speaker 11: And it's so ironic that he's actually turned out to

2046
01:42:51,907 --> 01:42:52,787
Speaker 11: be a rocket, isn't he?

2047
01:42:53,067 --> 01:42:56,067
Speaker 4: Indeed, indeed, I've had it described to me like this Fraser.

2048
01:42:56,147 --> 01:43:00,107
Speaker 4: We traditionally produce middle distance runners and athletics terms pigg

2049
01:43:00,147 --> 01:43:03,387
Speaker 4: of snow, John Walker, Kayeing Rising is like Usain Bolt.

2050
01:43:03,667 --> 01:43:04,707
Speaker 4: How has this happened?

2051
01:43:05,467 --> 01:43:07,827
Speaker 11: Look, look, that's a very good question and one I

2052
01:43:07,987 --> 01:43:08,867
Speaker 11: can't really answer.

2053
01:43:08,947 --> 01:43:10,027
Speaker 25: And I tell you why.

2054
01:43:10,707 --> 01:43:13,587
Speaker 11: In the pedigree there's even a Melbourne Cup winner that

2055
01:43:13,787 --> 01:43:18,467
Speaker 11: was thirty two hundred meters and Kaying's mother was definitely

2056
01:43:18,507 --> 01:43:22,467
Speaker 11: at her best around a two thousand meter mark. So yes, look,

2057
01:43:23,387 --> 01:43:26,867
Speaker 11: he's not really even in the frame of a sprinter.

2058
01:43:27,467 --> 01:43:30,907
Speaker 11: So one thing you learn when you're involved in racing

2059
01:43:31,067 --> 01:43:33,147
Speaker 11: is the first rule is that there isn't any rules,

2060
01:43:33,187 --> 01:43:35,387
Speaker 11: and I think I think he's evidence of that.

2061
01:43:35,787 --> 01:43:38,467
Speaker 4: Yeah, So at what point would it have become obvious

2062
01:43:39,027 --> 01:43:40,587
Speaker 4: that he was a sprinter?

2063
01:43:42,027 --> 01:43:47,667
Speaker 11: Look, he's just so fast basically, you know, and right

2064
01:43:47,707 --> 01:43:49,747
Speaker 11: from day dot when he had his very first sort

2065
01:43:49,787 --> 01:43:53,587
Speaker 11: of gallop, you know, he just had an extra couple

2066
01:43:53,627 --> 01:43:56,827
Speaker 11: of gears I guess you would say that most horses

2067
01:43:56,907 --> 01:44:00,747
Speaker 11: don't have. And you know, as he's strengthened and matured

2068
01:44:00,827 --> 01:44:03,627
Speaker 11: and things, he's just actually improved each and every season

2069
01:44:03,707 --> 01:44:06,587
Speaker 11: and it's sort of scary to think. And he's he's

2070
01:44:06,627 --> 01:44:09,827
Speaker 11: only really sort of hit full physical maturity now.

2071
01:44:10,187 --> 01:44:13,227
Speaker 4: So tell us then what the future might hold for him?

2072
01:44:14,187 --> 01:44:19,107
Speaker 11: Well, like literally to sound cliche, it's the world is

2073
01:44:19,187 --> 01:44:24,107
Speaker 11: his oysa. And look, he's even his weight is sort

2074
01:44:24,147 --> 01:44:27,027
Speaker 11: of now more now than it was last year and

2075
01:44:27,067 --> 01:44:30,267
Speaker 11: the year before, and that's all sort of muscle muscle

2076
01:44:30,347 --> 01:44:33,507
Speaker 11: definition and that sort of thing. So He's been handled

2077
01:44:33,547 --> 01:44:37,627
Speaker 11: so beautifully by the Hayes camp. He hasn't been over raced,

2078
01:44:37,627 --> 01:44:40,707
Speaker 11: He's been really really looked after. And look, I still

2079
01:44:40,747 --> 01:44:42,027
Speaker 11: believe it's all in front of him.

2080
01:44:42,427 --> 01:44:45,187
Speaker 4: He usually races in Hong Kong. His trip down Under

2081
01:44:45,347 --> 01:44:47,747
Speaker 4: to tackle the Everest was the catalyst for a lot

2082
01:44:47,787 --> 01:44:51,187
Speaker 4: of questions about whether he could deliver. He did, obviously,

2083
01:44:52,187 --> 01:44:53,267
Speaker 4: why was their doubt?

2084
01:44:54,947 --> 01:44:58,307
Speaker 11: Look, I think I think the big thing is if

2085
01:44:58,347 --> 01:45:01,107
Speaker 11: you historically look through, traveling.

2086
01:45:00,827 --> 01:45:01,547
Speaker 7: Is not easy.

2087
01:45:01,947 --> 01:45:07,267
Speaker 11: It's not easy to go to a different jurisdiction, different temperatures.

2088
01:45:07,307 --> 01:45:09,627
Speaker 11: I mean, these are these are finally tuned athletes and

2089
01:45:09,707 --> 01:45:12,267
Speaker 11: you're taking them right out of their comfort zone and

2090
01:45:12,347 --> 01:45:13,027
Speaker 11: that sort of thing.

2091
01:45:13,107 --> 01:45:13,267
Speaker 3: You know.

2092
01:45:13,507 --> 01:45:14,787
Speaker 2: So for me.

2093
01:45:14,947 --> 01:45:17,787
Speaker 11: Personally, it wasn't a question whether he was good enough

2094
01:45:17,827 --> 01:45:20,267
Speaker 11: to win the race. It was just a question of

2095
01:45:20,347 --> 01:45:24,107
Speaker 11: whether you know the traveling, the different atmosphere and all

2096
01:45:24,147 --> 01:45:27,787
Speaker 11: the rest of it. And look, he really the trial.

2097
01:45:28,667 --> 01:45:30,547
Speaker 11: I've never ever seen a trill that there were so

2098
01:45:30,747 --> 01:45:34,187
Speaker 11: much split split opinions on. You know, half half people

2099
01:45:34,347 --> 01:45:37,067
Speaker 11: sort of felt like he was unbeatable after that, and

2100
01:45:37,227 --> 01:45:39,787
Speaker 11: half the half the people felt he was no chance

2101
01:45:39,867 --> 01:45:42,547
Speaker 11: at all. You know, But in some ways it added

2102
01:45:42,587 --> 01:45:45,027
Speaker 11: to the theater of the of the race, that's for sure.

2103
01:45:44,987 --> 01:45:47,427
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And just can you take us through the race?

2104
01:45:47,467 --> 01:45:50,587
Speaker 4: What are your emotions as you watch your race from

2105
01:45:50,707 --> 01:45:51,747
Speaker 4: start to finish like that?

2106
01:45:52,947 --> 01:45:55,827
Speaker 11: Look, I guess, I guess for for for us just

2107
01:45:56,027 --> 01:46:00,027
Speaker 11: watching on. You know, obviously he generally does begin really well,

2108
01:46:00,547 --> 01:46:02,507
Speaker 11: so he takes a bit of luck out of the equation.

2109
01:46:03,067 --> 01:46:04,467
Speaker 7: And and then when you've.

2110
01:46:04,347 --> 01:46:07,187
Speaker 11: Got someone of the of the League of Zach Zach

2111
01:46:07,307 --> 01:46:09,827
Speaker 11: on board, you know, he made sure he didn't go

2112
01:46:09,947 --> 01:46:12,707
Speaker 11: to the rail and risks sort of being put in

2113
01:46:14,067 --> 01:46:17,347
Speaker 11: a lux type situation where he needed to get out.

2114
01:46:17,427 --> 01:46:20,067
Speaker 11: He sort of made sure that that he's in the

2115
01:46:20,147 --> 01:46:22,987
Speaker 11: clear throughout the race. And I guess you know, that's

2116
01:46:23,107 --> 01:46:25,267
Speaker 11: that's what it's all about, isn't it. But when he

2117
01:46:25,387 --> 01:46:28,667
Speaker 11: turned for home, you know, yeah, you just sort of

2118
01:46:28,707 --> 01:46:31,467
Speaker 11: hold your breath and and things, but he just lets

2119
01:46:31,547 --> 01:46:34,347
Speaker 11: go with the most magnificent sprint and and he did

2120
01:46:34,387 --> 01:46:35,987
Speaker 11: that again on Saturday.

2121
01:46:36,547 --> 01:46:39,267
Speaker 4: Did your phone blow up with messages afterwards?

2122
01:46:40,067 --> 01:46:42,227
Speaker 7: Yes, it certainly did, certainly did.

2123
01:46:42,307 --> 01:46:44,627
Speaker 11: And you know that's a wonderful thing with these horses.

2124
01:46:44,707 --> 01:46:47,547
Speaker 11: You know, they're they're they're very time consuming, they're a

2125
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Speaker 11: massive team, team effort. It takes a takes a whole village,

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01:46:52,227 --> 01:46:54,467
Speaker 11: you know, and so yeah, a lot of people have

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Speaker 11: been involved with his journey and everyone's loved every minute

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Speaker 11: of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well it was majestic watching him pull away there

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01:47:02,187 --> 01:47:04,227
Speaker 4: yesterday in the Everest phrase, I thank you so much

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Speaker 4: for joining us and giving us some insight. Mate, No

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Speaker 4: doubt you'll be You'll be basking in the glory of

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Speaker 4: this one for a little while longer.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, I might have had to have had a penadole

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Speaker 11: or two this one.

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Speaker 4: Love and Fraser, thanks for your time this afternoon.

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Speaker 11: Ah, it's a pleasure.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, No, thank you, Fraser Fraser. Al Right there,

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01:47:21,947 --> 01:47:25,267
Speaker 4: kir We Breeder of Kaying Rising who won the Everest yesterday,

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01:47:25,307 --> 01:47:28,867
Speaker 4: pocketing seven million for winning that race, taking career earnings

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Speaker 4: to nineteen and a half million, twenty six away from three.

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Speaker 4: Going to get your state side shortly. Let's just cover

2143
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Speaker 4: off some football though. The A League season is underway

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Speaker 4: for our men's sides, Wellington Phoenix and Auckland f C.

2145
01:47:41,387 --> 01:47:44,507
Speaker 4: Auckland FC were in Melbourne last night taking on Melbourne victory.

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Speaker 4: It was a tough encounter, bit of an arm wrestle

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01:47:47,867 --> 01:47:50,187
Speaker 4: a bit of a cagey affair at times. It finished

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Speaker 4: nil nil. Here is Auckland FC head coach Steve Corricker's

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Speaker 4: overall assessment afterwards.

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Speaker 30: Good defensive effort, I think tonight every I'm working hard. Obviously,

2151
01:47:59,587 --> 01:48:04,667
Speaker 30: first game is always tough to get under way and

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01:48:04,747 --> 01:48:06,667
Speaker 30: it's also a hard place to come in. I thought,

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01:48:06,787 --> 01:48:09,827
Speaker 30: you know, they're a good team, Semi final rematch, all

2154
01:48:09,867 --> 01:48:10,987
Speaker 30: that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 15: But I'm a little bit disappointed that we didn't get

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Speaker 15: the three points.

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Speaker 30: But I think in well, in all, we had a

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01:48:16,427 --> 01:48:19,307
Speaker 30: couple of good chances to score they got blocked or

2159
01:48:19,347 --> 01:48:21,907
Speaker 30: we didn't put our body on the line to get

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Speaker 30: in them areas and be a little bit more clinical.

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Speaker 30: But now that's an area obviously we can improve on

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01:48:27,107 --> 01:48:29,587
Speaker 30: next week. Defensively, I thought we were good.

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01:48:29,907 --> 01:48:31,667
Speaker 4: Was there a bit of early season ruster, bit of

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01:48:31,707 --> 01:48:33,387
Speaker 4: early season clunkiness perhaps?

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Speaker 30: I think so, And you know, first first day jitters

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01:48:36,707 --> 01:48:40,227
Speaker 30: a little bit. You know, there were good defensively as well.

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01:48:41,587 --> 01:48:43,427
Speaker 30: I got a few players that are just starting to

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Speaker 30: come back as well from injury, so you know we're

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Speaker 30: going to get better and better as time goes on.

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Speaker 4: And finally from Steve Coriker, how has he gone about

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01:48:52,267 --> 01:48:56,427
Speaker 4: replacing the first season energy. Last season and their maiden season,

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01:48:56,547 --> 01:48:59,947
Speaker 4: everything was new and fresh and different and exciting. So

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01:49:00,027 --> 01:49:03,187
Speaker 4: how is he replicating that in the second season of

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Speaker 4: the club.

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Speaker 30: I think we're going to find that at home when

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01:49:05,987 --> 01:49:08,787
Speaker 30: we get crowd you know, they're amazing the port and

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Speaker 30: all the members that turn up. We have big crowds

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Speaker 30: and we're looking forward to going back there next week

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Speaker 30: against Wanderers. But you know, when you're away from home,

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01:49:16,627 --> 01:49:18,427
Speaker 30: you know, it's a little bit different. Obviously, like you said,

2181
01:49:18,947 --> 01:49:21,147
Speaker 30: from from the first year, you know, no one really

2182
01:49:21,227 --> 01:49:24,987
Speaker 30: knew us. They didn't know what expected from us except

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01:49:25,027 --> 01:49:29,427
Speaker 30: for ourself. But again, let's finished this season and then

2184
01:49:29,507 --> 01:49:32,347
Speaker 30: it's a new season and we need to step up

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01:49:32,387 --> 01:49:34,907
Speaker 30: again and we've brought in players to try and do that.

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01:49:35,227 --> 01:49:38,507
Speaker 30: So whether it takes you know a little bit of

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01:49:38,547 --> 01:49:40,627
Speaker 30: time to get them going, you know, that's so be it.

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01:49:40,707 --> 01:49:42,427
Speaker 30: But I think we've been a good position come the

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01:49:42,427 --> 01:49:43,267
Speaker 30: inn a season that.

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Speaker 4: Is Steve Coriker so awalk to the FC. Starting with

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Speaker 4: a Nillell draw away at Melbourne Victory. They will host

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Speaker 4: the Western Sydney Wanderers at home this coming Saturday to

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Speaker 4: the Wellington Phoenix who came back from to nil down

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Speaker 4: early on in their game against Perth Glory to draw

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Speaker 4: to too. Gian Calotaliano as their head coach, So what

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Speaker 4: was his overall assessment of the performance.

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Speaker 28: I thought we started slow. I think we couldn't adjust

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Speaker 28: to their directors. Obviously they had planned against our high line,

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Speaker 28: and every time the ball went loose, they were just

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01:50:16,027 --> 01:50:19,587
Speaker 28: playing balls behind us. I actually thought that the reason

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Speaker 28: why we were disjointed, primarily was the fact that Hughsey

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01:50:23,347 --> 01:50:25,987
Speaker 28: was a late withdrawal from the team and we practiced

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01:50:25,987 --> 01:50:29,747
Speaker 28: with him and Lucas had just come back from international

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01:50:29,867 --> 01:50:31,867
Speaker 28: duty with Painting, so it took him a little bit

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01:50:31,907 --> 01:50:33,427
Speaker 28: of time to adjust, and I think we're just a

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01:50:33,467 --> 01:50:39,707
Speaker 28: little bit out of whack. I thought the second goal

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01:50:39,947 --> 01:50:43,867
Speaker 28: was very poor to concede. It actually entailed everything that

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01:50:43,947 --> 01:50:46,187
Speaker 28: we didn't want to do. We showed that at half time.

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Speaker 28: But I think as the game panned out, especially on

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01:50:49,707 --> 01:50:52,747
Speaker 28: the right hand side, so Painting side, once we started

2211
01:50:53,587 --> 01:50:55,707
Speaker 28: pulling out the wing back and come inside, it felt

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01:50:55,787 --> 01:50:58,747
Speaker 28: like a game plan started working. We scored and then

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01:50:58,747 --> 01:51:00,107
Speaker 28: there was belief in the group. I think there was

2214
01:51:00,187 --> 01:51:03,747
Speaker 28: actually belief growing. But the goal was the perfect timing

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Speaker 28: just before halftime and it was a great goal. For

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01:51:07,027 --> 01:51:10,307
Speaker 28: the second goal was so happy. It was something that

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01:51:10,387 --> 01:51:13,347
Speaker 28: we planned early delivery and behind with a player coming

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Speaker 28: at the backstick, and I thought Carlo like finished that

2219
01:51:16,227 --> 01:51:19,027
Speaker 28: it was unbelievable finish. I think the disappointing thing was

2220
01:51:19,187 --> 01:51:20,867
Speaker 28: we had all the momentum, we had all the ball

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01:51:21,187 --> 01:51:22,987
Speaker 28: and then I had to make some full subs and

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01:51:23,227 --> 01:51:27,787
Speaker 28: it just took momentum away. But in saying that, I

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01:51:27,867 --> 01:51:29,987
Speaker 28: thought like Joshi in the second half was sweeping a

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01:51:30,027 --> 01:51:32,267
Speaker 28: lot more braver which allowed us to be a little

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01:51:32,307 --> 01:51:35,747
Speaker 28: bit more on the front foot. But overall really happy

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01:51:35,987 --> 01:51:38,347
Speaker 28: turn Neil down to come back get a result away

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Speaker 28: from home, especially in Perth.

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Speaker 4: I'll take it. And Wellington's first goal was scored by

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Speaker 4: their new Nigerian import striker. You find is a what

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01:51:46,827 --> 01:51:49,547
Speaker 4: did Gianclo or Taliano make of his debut?

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01:51:49,907 --> 01:51:52,107
Speaker 28: Really good? I said this when I signed him. I

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01:51:52,147 --> 01:51:56,507
Speaker 28: think he's a different player. Awkward player, very hard to defend.

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Speaker 28: He can do some amazing things with the ball you

2234
01:51:59,947 --> 01:52:03,507
Speaker 28: see the training, but he just makes some weird movements

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01:52:03,787 --> 01:52:08,547
Speaker 28: and very unpredictable and I think in this league it's

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Speaker 28: going to take a very very good defender to stop him,

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Speaker 28: and I think even today, I think he probably had

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01:52:12,787 --> 01:52:14,547
Speaker 28: one more chance that he could have capitalize on. But

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Speaker 28: for me, a great impact.

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Speaker 4: And finally from John Calo Otaliano, who his other goal

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Speaker 4: scorer is another new rival, Carlo Armiento. What did he

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Speaker 4: make of his debut?

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Speaker 28: One of the probably most promising signings I've ever made.

2244
01:52:25,827 --> 01:52:29,227
Speaker 28: Is a great kid and he works so hard. You know,

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01:52:29,307 --> 01:52:31,347
Speaker 28: we're working on his defensive side because he's playing as

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01:52:31,347 --> 01:52:34,147
Speaker 28: a wing back. But the reason why I put him

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01:52:34,227 --> 01:52:36,627
Speaker 28: in that position is because I want him to score goals.

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01:52:36,947 --> 01:52:38,907
Speaker 28: And the fact that he was on the end of it.

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01:52:39,187 --> 01:52:41,547
Speaker 28: Didn't think he had much else in the game in

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Speaker 28: terms of building up on the right on the left

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Speaker 28: hand side, he wasn't really getting a lot of ball,

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01:52:46,667 --> 01:52:50,107
Speaker 28: but the fact that he was there late to score,

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01:52:50,587 --> 01:52:51,307
Speaker 28: that's credit to him.

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01:52:51,347 --> 01:52:53,867
Speaker 4: That's John Calo Italiano, head coach of Wellington Phoenix two

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Speaker 4: two against Perth Glory last night. They will host Brisbane

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Speaker 4: Raw next Sunday in their first home game of the

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01:52:59,147 --> 01:53:01,547
Speaker 4: season coming up twenty to three. When we come back

2258
01:53:01,587 --> 01:53:05,107
Speaker 4: were state side ly on Busby our US sports expert joining.

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01:53:04,987 --> 01:53:11,267
Speaker 1: US hold Engaged Weekend Sports with Jason Time and GJ.

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01:53:11,467 --> 01:53:14,667
Speaker 2: Gunnomes New Zealand's first trusted Homilder.

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01:53:14,307 --> 01:53:17,267
Speaker 4: News Talk to Baby seventeen to three Time to talk

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Speaker 4: you as sports. Shohei Otani has delivered one of the

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01:53:20,667 --> 01:53:26,067
Speaker 4: greatest performances in baseball history as defending champions the Los

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01:53:26,107 --> 01:53:30,307
Speaker 4: Angeles Dodgers beat the Milwaukee Brewers to reach the World Series.

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Speaker 28: In Game four of the LCS, said, now goes Otari,

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01:53:34,067 --> 01:53:38,267
Speaker 28: show Hey, lighting up the highlights already.

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01:53:39,547 --> 01:53:43,907
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, show o tardy.

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Speaker 4: Otari, Toddy Otori.

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Speaker 1: Ohty has done.

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Speaker 4: It again, sho Hey Otani smashing three huge home runs

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Speaker 4: as well as striking out ten Brewers batters and pitching

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01:53:59,907 --> 01:54:03,867
Speaker 4: six scoreless innings in a comprehensive five to one victory

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01:54:03,987 --> 01:54:07,507
Speaker 4: as the Dodgers swept the series. Or nill his three

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Speaker 4: home runs and ten strikeouts in the same game as

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Speaker 4: a Major League Baseball postseason record, highlighting his rare talent

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01:54:15,347 --> 01:54:19,827
Speaker 4: of excelling with bat and ball. Ore you sports expert

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01:54:20,147 --> 01:54:23,267
Speaker 4: is Leon Busby, who joins US Now, Leon, how unique

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01:54:23,827 --> 01:54:26,787
Speaker 4: is what Shohei Otani is doing right now?

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01:54:28,187 --> 01:54:28,387
Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 31: Good afternoon, Jess, and thanks for having me back.

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01:54:31,027 --> 01:54:31,227
Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 31: I'm what he's doing is unprecedented. If we look at

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01:54:34,267 --> 01:54:36,227
Speaker 31: the stats and you just mentioned some of them there,

2284
01:54:36,907 --> 01:54:39,107
Speaker 31: he struck our ten bat, has given up no runs

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01:54:39,147 --> 01:54:43,027
Speaker 31: against across six plus scoreless innings as a starting pitcher,

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01:54:43,347 --> 01:54:46,547
Speaker 31: and then as a designated hitter, he crushed three home runs,

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01:54:46,987 --> 01:54:49,867
Speaker 31: including one of the fourth which most of the people

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01:54:49,907 --> 01:54:52,107
Speaker 31: who watch the game will just be shaking the heads,

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01:54:52,107 --> 01:54:55,387
Speaker 31: which he duly blasted out of the stadium. That particular

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01:54:55,467 --> 01:54:58,587
Speaker 31: shot had a recorded one hundred and eighty eight kilometers

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01:54:58,627 --> 01:55:02,107
Speaker 31: per hour exits velocity office bat traveling an incredible one

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01:55:02,187 --> 01:55:04,347
Speaker 31: hundred and forty five minutes. How wild is that say?

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01:55:04,387 --> 01:55:06,867
Speaker 31: He's the only player, as you alluded to, in Major

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01:55:06,947 --> 01:55:10,307
Speaker 31: League Baseball history, to achieve this feat in a pennant

2295
01:55:10,387 --> 01:55:13,747
Speaker 31: clinching game. Just when you thought there's no more superditives

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01:55:13,827 --> 01:55:17,747
Speaker 31: to describe what Ani's doing right now is unprecedented. People

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01:55:17,867 --> 01:55:20,387
Speaker 31: often referred to him as a unicorn, and he's easily

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01:55:20,467 --> 01:55:23,627
Speaker 31: the best player in baseball right now and yesterday he

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01:55:23,787 --> 01:55:26,627
Speaker 31: found a way to break out of his recent postseason

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01:55:26,787 --> 01:55:31,307
Speaker 31: slump in dramatic fashion. Now, long time ESPN Baseball commentator

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Speaker 31: Jeff Passon said that o'tani is literally quote redefining the

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Speaker 31: game in real time, close quote history unfold him for

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01:55:39,827 --> 01:55:42,067
Speaker 31: our very eyes. I mean, what he's doing for the

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01:55:42,107 --> 01:55:45,787
Speaker 31: sport at South Piney is incredible and justifies his groundbaked

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01:55:46,187 --> 01:55:50,067
Speaker 31: groundbreak in December twenty twenty three to one ten years,

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01:55:50,147 --> 01:55:51,787
Speaker 31: seven hundred million dollar contract.

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01:55:51,867 --> 01:55:55,667
Speaker 4: It's crazy, absolutely crazy. These numbers that we always talk

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01:55:55,707 --> 01:55:58,627
Speaker 4: about when you're on with us are just eyewatering. So

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Speaker 4: I'm staying with ye, staying with Ajor League Baseball. Where

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01:56:02,147 --> 01:56:04,587
Speaker 4: are Where are we in the American League Championship Series?

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Speaker 31: Yes, the Dodgers now also have the advantage of resting

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01:56:08,227 --> 01:56:12,067
Speaker 31: up and awaiting the winner of the acl ALCS sorry

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01:56:12,107 --> 01:56:15,307
Speaker 31: between the Mariners and Blue Jays, with Seattle leading three

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01:56:15,347 --> 01:56:19,027
Speaker 31: to two following a pivotal win yesterday. Over the five

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01:56:19,187 --> 01:56:22,307
Speaker 31: game series so far, Toronto has scored twenty seven runs

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01:56:22,347 --> 01:56:25,707
Speaker 31: in Seattle twenty five, and by a couple of lopsided results,

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01:56:25,787 --> 01:56:28,667
Speaker 31: this series has been very evenly matched for most part.

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01:56:28,987 --> 01:56:31,627
Speaker 31: The final two games now moved back to Canada, and

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01:56:31,747 --> 01:56:35,067
Speaker 31: the Mariners only need to win one Seattle. Since entering

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01:56:35,107 --> 01:56:37,587
Speaker 31: the league forty eight years ago at nineteen seventy seven.

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01:56:37,987 --> 01:56:41,507
Speaker 31: Are actually their only team and MLB history never to

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01:56:41,627 --> 01:56:43,587
Speaker 31: compete for the World Series, and it would be a

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01:56:43,627 --> 01:56:46,027
Speaker 31: great story if they can finally get to the four Classics.

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Speaker 4: What are the latest starts you've got for us?

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Speaker 31: Yes, the most money, expectedly, it is on our la

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01:56:52,467 --> 01:56:55,987
Speaker 31: to repeat with both Seattle and Toronto evenly priced. It's

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01:56:56,027 --> 01:56:58,187
Speaker 31: great for baseball in general to see some of the

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01:56:58,307 --> 01:57:02,227
Speaker 31: smaller market teams like Seattle, Toronto and Milwaukee showing up

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01:57:02,267 --> 01:57:05,507
Speaker 31: on the big stage. However, and away Piney is also

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01:57:05,667 --> 01:57:08,747
Speaker 31: an air of inevitability about the World Series because the

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01:57:08,867 --> 01:57:10,987
Speaker 31: Dodgers are built to win it now with a stacked

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Speaker 31: and deep roster. I feel that if Ballet don't win

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01:57:13,827 --> 01:57:16,467
Speaker 31: it all again this year, it'll be seeing as a

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01:57:16,547 --> 01:57:19,747
Speaker 31: failure considering the astronomical amount of contract money they shout

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01:57:19,787 --> 01:57:22,427
Speaker 31: out during the off season. Their manager has even said

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Speaker 31: they're more than happy to take on the villain roll.

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Speaker 31: So we'll see how this all plays out when the

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Speaker 31: World Series starts this.

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Speaker 4: Saturday, pining we will, okay. So as the baseball season

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Speaker 4: is coming towards its climax, the NBA is getting underway.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I think Day one of the NBA is

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Speaker 4: this coming Wednesday. That's New Zealand time. A few storylines here?

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Speaker 4: Can we start with a but a special recognition for

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Speaker 4: Steph Curry.

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Speaker 31: Yes, so Steph Curry, obviously everyone knows he's going to

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Speaker 31: be a first ballot Hall of Famer. So he's about

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Speaker 31: to start his seventeenth season with the Golden State Warriors.

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Speaker 31: So he's one of only ten players to ever play

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Speaker 31: for one franchise in his career for more than seventeen seasons.

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Speaker 31: Curry will join Hall of Fame inductee like and these

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Speaker 31: are probably some names that your listeners are are familiar with.

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Speaker 31: Dirt Novitski, he played for the Mavericks and holds the

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Speaker 31: outright record of twenty one years. Classey, followed by Kobe

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Speaker 31: Bryant and Tim Duncan, who both played with their same teams,

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Speaker 31: the Lakers in San Antonio's first for twenty years.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 31: Other legends of the game that are part of this

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Speaker 31: elite group include Kim Elijah On with the Rockets, John

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Speaker 31: Stocked him with the Utah Jazz, and Regi Miller with

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Speaker 31: the Indiana Pacers.

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Speaker 4: Victor Wembin Yamah You Reckon, he might be set for

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Speaker 4: a breakout year.

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Speaker 31: Yes, I feel like you know. He's a marquee player

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Speaker 31: for the franchise and he's entering his third season in

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Speaker 31: the association, so he overcame some health challenges from last

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Speaker 31: year and has worked extremely hard in the offseason to

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Speaker 31: riddy himself where the physical riggers his seven foot five

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Speaker 31: inch frame will have to endure. So expect something special

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Speaker 31: from the Frenchman this season. Wenby r Field will be

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Speaker 31: primed for big things as one of the faces of

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Speaker 31: the NBA, as long as he can stay healthy.

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Speaker 4: Piney, what about in terms of favorites for the NBA.

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Speaker 4: I know we're right at the start of the season,

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Speaker 4: but I'm sure the bookies have got their favorites.

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Speaker 11: Yep.

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Speaker 31: So the latest britty knods predict Cleveland, New York, and

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Speaker 31: Orlando to come out of the East, while in the West, OKC, Denver,

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Speaker 31: and Houston. Based on those odds, the thunder and Cavaliers

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Speaker 31: a favorite to meet in the finals. Unfortunately for Andy's Pelicans,

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Speaker 31: they're slightly long. Odds are at plus seventeen thousand, five hundred,

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Speaker 31: So I guess it's fair to say that New Orleans

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Speaker 31: have only been rated to living out of fifteen in

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Speaker 31: the Western Conference. I don't think they're going to get

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Speaker 31: to the posted and sorry Andy, but also in tier

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Speaker 31: in terms of the MVP Awards, it's a list of

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Speaker 31: the usual suspects, including reigning championship guilders Alexander of the

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Speaker 31: OKAC Thunder, closely followed by Jokicha the Nuggets. Also, you've

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Speaker 31: got Luca Gianna, Santa Ta Compo and Wenby there to

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Speaker 31: round up.

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Speaker 9: The top five.

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Speaker 4: And Michael Jordan's got a new role in the NBA.

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Speaker 31: Yeah exciting, So yeah, finding there's a lot of summon

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Speaker 31: around the league with sixty two year old bussketball legend

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Speaker 31: Michael Jordan set to return to the NBA via NBC

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Speaker 31: Sports as a special contributing commentator from next week. So,

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Speaker 31: even twenty plus years on after returning for the final time,

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Speaker 31: mj is still widely considered the greatest basketball in history.

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Speaker 31: And here's analysis of the modern game, a very different

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Speaker 31: era from when he grossed the hard court will be intriguing,

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Speaker 31: to say the least, pining.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to football, college football. You got the latest

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Speaker 4: rankings for us yet.

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Speaker 31: So college football is into Week eight already and at

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Speaker 31: the moment. There are games going on as we speak,

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Speaker 31: so the latest rankings see the Ohio State Buckeye is

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Speaker 31: still at number one, Miami Hurricanes at two, Indiana Hoosia's three,

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Speaker 31: Texas A and m Aggie's four, and the Old Miss

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Speaker 31: Rebels rounding out the top five.

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Speaker 4: And we had a football coach as posta conglo show

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Speaker 4: on the door at Nottingham Forest after about a month

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Speaker 4: and the job a prominent head coach in college football

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Speaker 4: lasted about the same allant of time. By this sounds

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Speaker 4: of it.

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Speaker 31: Yeah, that's right, finey. Although there are some key games

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Speaker 31: this weekend, the biggest story this week was a foreign

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Speaker 31: of James Franklin, the head coach of Pennsylvania State University

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Speaker 31: better known as penn State. Into his twelfth season with

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Speaker 31: the Litany Lions. That's such a cool name. Franklin was

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Speaker 31: let go even though he still owed fifty million dollars

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Speaker 31: on his contracts. He had six seasons of ten plus wins,

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Speaker 31: won seventy percent of his games, and leaves with a

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Speaker 31: one hundred and four to forty five record. Unfortunately, you know,

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Speaker 31: if you're a head coach, they and they haven't won

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Speaker 31: a national time normost forty years. I guess it's fair

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Speaker 31: to say that no one's safe pining.

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Speaker 4: No indeed, and to the NFL to finish Round seven games.

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Speaker 4: The Miami Dolphins a bit of a mess.

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Speaker 13: Ah.

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Speaker 31: Yes, this is a bit well, I shouldn't really laugh,

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Speaker 31: but anyway, it is a little bit of a comical story.

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Speaker 31: Say near the bottom of the AFC of the Miami

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Speaker 31: Dolphins have won to five. There's been much speculation that

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Speaker 31: the style wide receiver Tyreek Kill, affectionately known as a cheatah,

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Speaker 31: may be traded because of contractual issues. In just a

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Speaker 31: sense from inside sources, he's unhappy with the organization in general. Now,

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Speaker 31: Miami's head coach, Mike McDaniel is on the so called

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Speaker 31: hot seat and expected to be one of many to

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Speaker 31: be fired as a season unfold. I don't like seeing

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Speaker 31: anybody lose a job. But something out of the norm happened.

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Speaker 6: Just recently.

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Speaker 31: A group of passionate Dolphin fans started to go funbee

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Speaker 31: Paige and raised the two thousand dollars they needed. Now, poney,

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Speaker 31: do you want to have a guess what they raised

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Speaker 31: the money for?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't want to have a guess. I need

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Speaker 4: you to tell me.

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Speaker 15: So.

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Speaker 31: A small plane was hired to fly a banner that

2449
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Speaker 31: read fire Grier, fire McDaniel over the home stadium prior

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Speaker 31: to a recent home game. There's a grown resentment from

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Speaker 31: the bad results that a fan base adamant that by

2452
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Speaker 31: firing both their general manager and head coach will go

2453
02:02:55,267 --> 02:02:57,747
Speaker 31: a long way to riding the sinking shifts, so to speak.

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Speaker 31: Certainly a different way of garnering attention, but it may

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02:03:00,427 --> 02:03:03,707
Speaker 31: well get the undivided attention of the team owners. Only

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Speaker 31: in America, Pioneer only in America.

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Speaker 4: Only in America. Gott to leave it there, Leon, It's

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Speaker 4: a packed sporting schedule in the US right now. Really

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Speaker 4: appreciate your joining us to keep us up with it.

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Speaker 4: Leon Busby State site here on Weekend Sports seven.

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Speaker 1: To three, analyzing every view from every angle in the

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Speaker 1: sporting world.

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Speaker 2: Weekend Sport with Jason Hige n Call.

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Speaker 4: News Talks eNB that is us on Weekend Sport for

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Speaker 4: Today Hughes thanks to Tyra for producing the show. Thank

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Speaker 4: you Tyra for stepping in. I guess Andy will be

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Speaker 4: back at some stage. Thank you for listening in to

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Speaker 4: the show this afternoon. Tim Beverage after three song to

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Speaker 4: Take Us Out Today relates to our chat with louve

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Speaker 4: Vincent and a bit of redemption for lou Vincent. The

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