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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One, New Zealand and the

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. Welcome to the show. Coming up today. Finance Minister

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Speaker 2: Nichola Willis on the GDP print. Greg Murphy on the

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Speaker 2: fact that we have self driving Tesla's now driving in

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Speaker 2: test live rate facial recognition in supermarkets.

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Speaker 3: Heather Duplicy Allen.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's fair to say that the GDP

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Speaker 2: print has come in. It's something of a shock. The

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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank was picking a contraction of zero point three percent.

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Speaker 2: The consensus was a contraction of zero point four percent.

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Speaker 2: The worst case prediction from one of the banks was

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Speaker 2: a contraction of zero point five percent. It's come in

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Speaker 2: at a contraction of zero point nine percent, which is

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Speaker 2: basically twice as bad as most of us thought. Imdiate

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Speaker 2: problem that we have is what this is going to

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Speaker 2: do to confidence because people are already scared. That is

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Speaker 2: why it's taking this country so long to come out

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Speaker 2: of reception recession, because every single piece of bad news

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Speaker 2: like Trump's tariffs earlier this year, freaks us out all

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Speaker 2: over again, so we keep our wallets shut for longer.

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Speaker 2: There are people out there who absolutely can afford to

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Speaker 2: the worst of it. This is part of the reason,

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Speaker 2: like the Bank thought that they should be. And this

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Speaker 2: Bank right now, because they really deserve it. The verdict

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Speaker 2: in on this now, isn't it. They have well and

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Speaker 2: going on in this economy. In July, which is only

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Speaker 2: Just a month ago they released their monetary policy statement

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Speaker 2: forecasting the contraction at only zero point three percent. They

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Speaker 2: the pressure is on them to fix this, and fix

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Speaker 2: more to restore confidence than anything, because confidence is what

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Speaker 2: we are very much lacking at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Either duplicy Ellen, we were driving driving in your car?

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Speaker 2: has already been achieved. Seventeen percent of New Zealanders think

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Speaker 2: So one in three young men think equality has gone

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Speaker 4: I'm reckoning that people have become complacent. We have had

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Speaker 4: So that's the general thing that where people think that

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Speaker 2: Is it, or that it's going to be that they

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Speaker 4: People often to think that of and think that a

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Speaker 4: But it's not fair for women generally. So what men

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Speaker 2: Then we've got the stuff about rape. Seventeen percent of

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Speaker 4: They are entrenched attitudes that are hangover from the past,

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Speaker 4: But they are entrenched because there's a small core that

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Speaker 2: And then a rising number of people reckon it's understandable

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Speaker 2: Well well, I mean, Susan, can I give you an

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Speaker 4: Hit out, I think is actually a phrase that has

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Suzan, thank you, that's really interesting. I appreciate you

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Speaker 2: running us through all of that, Doctor Suzanne Manning, who

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Speaker 2: is the President of the National Council of Women. Bossy's

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Speaker 2: Goodness me, we were talking what were we talking about?

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Speaker 2: We're talking about cake, and we completely forgot that.

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Speaker 2: The sloppy cake, which is I'm not sure which one

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Speaker 6: The more no not the small Roald It was very precise.

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Speaker 6: That was a tidy cake. The other cake square, disheveled.

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Speaker 2: That was the German baked. That the German baked that

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Speaker 2: the German is a fantastic bake.

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Speaker 2: coconut and pineapple cake made according to the Ripe Recipe book.

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Speaker 2: Ripe does a fantastic recipe. Everything they do is amazing.

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Speaker 6: That's a powerful mental image.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for that anyway, So thank you for the cake.

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Speaker 2: So Crusaders. Why are the fans angry?

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Speaker 6: Some of the fans are angry because they've released the

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Speaker 6: tickets the memberships for next season and they've gone up considerably,

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Speaker 6: in some cases up to forty percent.

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Speaker 2: Wow, is just because of the fancy new building.

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Speaker 6: I wonder if it is. I'd say it is, even

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Speaker 6: though three of the games aren't at the fancy new building,

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Speaker 6: and four of the games are at the fancy new building.

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Speaker 6: Kind of staffed in the middle of that is of

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Speaker 6: At least the prices and in essence there, Yeah, they're

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Speaker 6: and we'll talk with Connor Mansbrid's CEO up after seven

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Speaker 6: o'clock on Sports Talk Beers, is what do you expect?

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Speaker 6: It's different from the lean to in Sydnym that was awful.

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Speaker 6: This is brand new and I'm sorry, well I'm not sorry.

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Speaker 6: The Crusaders are a business. They're not a charity. They're

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Speaker 2: There's a line to walk here, isn't there? Which is

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Speaker 2: But also people can stay home like you like to

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Darcy. All right, Darcy Watergrave's sports talk hoast.

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Speaker 10: The fourth stage of grief, construction, the demolition.

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Speaker 11: Every single person and every single company.

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Speaker 1: Three International correspondence with NS and Eye Insurance Peace of

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Speaker 2: Oliver Peterson six pour Perth Life Presenters with US. Hello, Oali,

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Speaker 2: Hello Heather. Okay, so Albanezi crunch time. He's meeting with Trump,

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Speaker 13: But look, this will be very interesting. I think he

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Speaker 13: wanted to make this announcement, as I said before, headed

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Speaker 13: before he went off to see Donald Trump, to try

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Speaker 13: and wrestle back the national conversation.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I mean, this is this is nonsense, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: There's no way you guys are going to cut your

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Speaker 2: emissions by potentially seventy percent in the next ten years.

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Speaker 2: And surely by now voters, as we get closer and

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Speaker 2: closer to these targets and we see we don't meet them,

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Speaker 2: voters are going to start to see through this crap,

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Speaker 2: aren't they.

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Speaker 14: I reckon they would.

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Speaker 13: I don't know why you lock yourself into this sort

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Speaker 13: of stuff, Like why do you have this target?

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Speaker 14: How are we to do it?

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Speaker 13: Heather, Like, we've already got the massive warnings this summer

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Speaker 13: that we can't keep the lights on, the air conditioning

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Speaker 13: systems running, So how are we going to do it?

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Speaker 13: All ride bicycles and have windmills in our own backyards

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Speaker 13: and all these batteries it's just until you have a

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Speaker 13: concrete base load solution.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is all just lala land. Correct, it's

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Speaker 2: lala land. Okay, listen, Ollie, thank you. I do appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: That's Oliver Peterson, our six PM Perth Live presenter, eighteen

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Speaker 2: away from.

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Speaker 3: Five either due for clan.

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Speaker 2: I haven't even I haven't even run you through the

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Speaker 2: Crusaders prices. Now, get a load of this, okay. So

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Speaker 2: this is the prices this year at the Stink Stadium

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Speaker 2: versus what you're going to pay if you're a Crusaders

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Speaker 2: fan going to Takaha Next year, the Platinum membership is

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Speaker 2: going to go from three hundred and eighty dollars this

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Speaker 2: year to five hundred and seventy five dollars next year,

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Speaker 2: which is a forty percent price increase. Adult reserved seating

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Speaker 2: at all regular home games is one hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: dollars this year. Next year it will start at four

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five dollars. At the moment, your premium

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Speaker 2: membership is five hundred and seventy five dollars. Next year,

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Speaker 2: the premium offer, from what I understand, starts at about

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Speaker 2: three thousand, two hundred dollars. I mean this is eye

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Speaker 2: watering increases A A membership for a family of four

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Speaker 2: were costs currently four hundred and fifty dollars, will cost

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Speaker 2: a minimum of seven hundred and fifty dollars next year.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Nick Bewley, our Rugby commentator,

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Speaker 2: next hour about it. I'm getting a lot of texts

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Speaker 2: calling me out on the Jimmy Kimmel thing, basically saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, if there was canceled culture going one way,

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Speaker 2: if the left doing the cancel culture before, what's the

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Speaker 2: problem of THEUT getting canceled now? We're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about that later, because I don't think just because one

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Speaker 2: one group of people do something bad, the other group

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Speaker 2: of people should do equally bad. Heither regarding Jimmy Kimmel's

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Speaker 2: and Charlie Kirks murder, Look who wins here, it's Trump.

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Speaker 2: This has moved the dial, even temporarily from the Epstein issue,

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Speaker 2: Trump to go after the left, or, as he refers

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Speaker 2: to them, the enemy within, which is probably a fair

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Speaker 2: point to make anyway. Barrisopa is going to be us

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Speaker 2: next on domestic politics, seventeen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with Centrics. Credit check your customers and get

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Speaker 1: payment certainty.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 2: Barrisoper, senior political correspondence with US Hallo, Barry.

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Speaker 11: Good afternoon. Whither is there so much cake in the

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Speaker 11: office today?

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Speaker 2: Go on, then, go on, just get it out of

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Speaker 2: your system.

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Speaker 14: Dear, I go on, Happy birthday, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You very much, Barry. Jeez, how long did you think

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Speaker 2: about how am I going to get that out there?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 11: No, I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Was that just when I looked around. Look, you've absolutely excelled,

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Speaker 2: right the GDP. This this was alarming, this number, wasn't it.

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Speaker 11: Well, yes, it was alarming. Was much more than anybody

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Speaker 11: had predicted. But look, Adrian Or you'd have to say,

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Speaker 11: did a great job engineering a recession. Like the government

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Speaker 11: he was working for at the time, he clearly didn't

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Speaker 11: know how to get out of it. So they're still

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Speaker 11: in the mare. But I think I think we've turned

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Speaker 11: the corner, and I think the third quar it will

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Speaker 11: be better than the one we're in at the moment,

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Speaker 11: and it'll be even better than the last quarter.

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Speaker 2: Well, it has to be better than because geez, there's

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Speaker 2: no way it could get worse exactly. Okay, So the

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Speaker 2: spat between David Seymour and Winston Peters about Gaza. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: how big a deal is this?

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Speaker 11: Well, it's not such a big deal, I must say,

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Speaker 11: it's been made a big deal by some sections of

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Speaker 11: the media. But the interesting thing is that even though

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Speaker 11: Seymour has been sniping away at Palestine and what New

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Speaker 11: Zealand should be doing, it's really the Foreign Affairs Minister's

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Speaker 11: job and act hasn't opted out of any formal agree

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Speaker 11: to disagree position, which is what you meant to do

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Speaker 11: in a coalition. Nevertheless, standing in for the Prime Minister

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Speaker 11: today during question time, David Seymour was quizzed by Labour's

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Speaker 11: carmel Sepaloni over the bickering between him and Winston Peters. Interestingly,

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Speaker 11: Seymour not once referred to Winston by a name. Here

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Speaker 11: they are.

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Speaker 15: Position will be made clear by the right minister at

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Speaker 15: the right place, at the right time, which is coming

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Speaker 15: up very soon.

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Speaker 16: Was the Minister of Foreign Affairs correct when he said

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Speaker 16: that the Deputy Prime Minister David Seymour was quote talking

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Speaker 16: out of his field end quote regarding the government's position

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Speaker 16: on Palestinian statehood.

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Speaker 15: Actually he was speaking as the leader of his party

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Speaker 15: and that's a matter for him, which I don't have

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Speaker 15: a responsibility.

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Speaker 16: For when will he instruct his Deputy Prime Minister and

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Speaker 16: his Minister for Foreign Affairs to stop bickering.

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Speaker 15: We have a team that works together very effectively, dangerously effective,

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Speaker 15: in such a way that it's going to keep the

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Speaker 15: opposition right where they are for a very long time.

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Speaker 11: Wish we'll thinking that's probably true though.

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Speaker 2: All right, what's Jane Jones banging on about the dolphins?

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Speaker 17: Oh?

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Speaker 11: I love this because apparently there was a twenty twenty

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Speaker 11: one report issued by the government. It's suggesting that the

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Speaker 11: population of hectors and Maui dolphins it's about fifty four

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Speaker 11: or even as few as forty. A question from the

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Speaker 11: Greens had the Minister of Oceans and Fishery, Shane Jones,

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Speaker 11: casting doubt on the very existence of the dolphin species.

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Speaker 18: Over the years, a host of restrictive measures have been

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Speaker 18: put in place for this mythological creature, sadly known as

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Speaker 18: Maui's dolphins. This has had a significant impact on the

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Speaker 18: ability and the viability of the fishery sector. But we

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Speaker 18: should not devalue the work that has already taken place

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Speaker 18: on the west coast of Teko or Mahwi to provide

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Speaker 18: remedial measures for this declining population of mythical Hector's dolphins.

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Speaker 18: But I will not be guilt shipped about mythical creatures

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Speaker 18: living off the west coast of Taranaki.

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Speaker 2: He just thinks they're the same dolphin based he says

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Speaker 2: they are the same dolphins.

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Speaker 6: I'll talk to him after that.

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Speaker 11: He said they are. They never been different dolphins. That's

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Speaker 11: as new, all right. Not the Greens view that much.

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Speaker 2: So are you going to you're going to be tuning

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Speaker 2: in for Bossy's veldtrup.

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Speaker 11: Well, one of the few contributions that I've made to

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Speaker 11: politics came today and one of Benjamin Doyle's rare questions. Essentially,

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Speaker 11: what they did was hold up the proceedings as they

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Speaker 11: asked questions in maldi, which of course they're entitled to do,

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Speaker 11: but it was something of a struggle to get an answer.

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Speaker 17: Here they are Kate Feifer, card or Ia Keith Manna,

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Speaker 17: Teddy t or Way tong Hu tanga a ma to

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Speaker 17: dunga manga akuna maudi was to speak.

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Speaker 15: I'm not getting any translation through this.

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Speaker 6: That's been a problem all week, and I've got this.

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Speaker 11: I don't know whether there was a problem for the

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Speaker 11: bewildered translator, or whether it was indeed a technical problem,

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Speaker 11: but anyway we can hear more from them. That's Doyle

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Speaker 11: when they delivered their valedictory in about an hour's time.

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Speaker 11: See how correct I was hither in the pronouns which

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Speaker 11: from here on and won't be such a problem with

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Speaker 11: him gone.

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Speaker 2: Up to that point. Just well, thanks you. Barry Soper,

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Speaker 2: Senior political Correspondence nine away from five, putting.

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Speaker 1: The tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic Hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 19: It's new numbers around youth offending, showing it's down fourteen

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Speaker 19: point six percent. Car and Chaws the Children's Ministry. How

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Speaker 19: much of this is RAM raids?

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Speaker 20: Oh yeah, that's a big part of the RAM raids

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Speaker 20: have dropped by eighty two percent. And we do know

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Speaker 20: that a small group of young people are causing a

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Speaker 20: large problem within our community. So we're focusing on this

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Speaker 20: small group of serious, persistent youth offenders and it's starting

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Speaker 20: to work good.

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Speaker 19: In your press release, you're claiming boot camps. Correct me

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Speaker 19: if I'm wrong. The boot camps haven't even started.

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Speaker 20: Yes, but we did run a pilot and we had

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Speaker 20: a lot of learnings from that pilot that we're now

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Speaker 20: using within our work program.

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Speaker 19: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 19: Vida News Talk.

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Speaker 2: ZB five Away from five. Look, thank you for the

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Speaker 2: birthday messages to appreciate it. It's very nice. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I have honestly had so much cake today I feel

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Speaker 2: quite funny from it. I'm not used to this amount

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Speaker 2: of sugar. Because I started, I thought, do you know,

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Speaker 2: when you're a parent, you decide that you've got to

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Speaker 2: do all kinds of weird things just to keep that,

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Speaker 2: you know, give the kids an experience. So we had

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Speaker 2: cake this morning after breakfast, so that that the wee

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Speaker 2: one who's three and a half could could have a

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Speaker 2: fu make a fuss. But what he's he didn't even

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Speaker 2: like the cake, and they're not sitting there eating my

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Speaker 2: cake and his cake. I didn't really like the cake. Ey,

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Speaker 2: they don't really like cake anyway, So I had a

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Speaker 2: double dose of that. Then I came in the German

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Speaker 2: made a very sugary cake, so I had to have

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Speaker 2: that as well. That was actually quite delicious, but I

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Speaker 2: could only have half of it because I've already loaded

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Speaker 2: up before. But what he was really into was striking

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Speaker 2: matches because then he then he then he learned he

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Speaker 2: saw his dad do that, so now he wants to

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Speaker 2: strike matches all the time. So anyway, we're about to

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Speaker 2: put them high away, haven't we. Oh here the cake

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Speaker 2: hair was lovely overnight with Trump's function. Look, I will

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Speaker 2: agree with you. Actually Kate's head, they have either taken

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Speaker 2: the extensions, will wig out or something. She's gone back

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Speaker 2: to having her own hair and it looks outstanding again. Milania.

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Speaker 2: Just on the subject, Milania has been trolled for the

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Speaker 2: dress that she walter the state banquet, which I think

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Speaker 2: is deeply unfair. It is great if you haven't seen it.

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Speaker 2: It's a Caroline, a Carolina Herrara gown. It's off the shoulder,

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Speaker 2: on both sides are long sleeves, column silhouette. It's she's

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Speaker 2: got a wide lilacs sat it's yellow, by the way,

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Speaker 2: very yellow like like you know, buttercup yellow. And it's

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Speaker 2: she's got a white lilac satin belt and then a

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Speaker 2: pair of rather spectacular emerald earrings on it. The common

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Speaker 2: the consensus on this is that it is not state

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Speaker 2: banquet enough, Like it's just not because because then she's

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Speaker 2: standing next to Kate, and then Kate's got on a

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Speaker 2: gold lacey thing and it's sort of couture. She's got

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Speaker 2: a gown and she's got a long sleeve, full length

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Speaker 2: gold lace evening coat over the top. And I've got

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Speaker 2: to be honest with you, and I said, when I

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Speaker 2: looked at the pair of them, I thought Milania looked better.

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Speaker 2: Because while I do think Kate always looks beautiful and

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Speaker 2: everything that she's wearing, that dress could have come from

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Speaker 2: the Victorian erar, do you know what I mean? And

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Speaker 2: I wish the royals do this all the time. They

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Speaker 2: dress like it's several decades ago. They put their children

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Speaker 2: still have to wear those awful little sandals with the

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Speaker 2: socks and the weird outfits that kids worn the Second

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Speaker 2: World War, And I feel because they just keep trying

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Speaker 2: to do the nostalgia thing. Anyway, I'm coming to the

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Speaker 2: defense here of Milania's dress, but I cannot defend the hat.

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Speaker 2: Ha Have you seen the hat?

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Speaker 17: The hat?

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Speaker 2: The hat is obnoxious. She needs to stop using the

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Speaker 2: hat as some sort of a cage to keep people

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Speaker 2: away from her. Anyway. Nikola Willis is going to be

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Speaker 2: with us next on the GDP print newstig zby.

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Speaker 1: Dressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Duplessyl and Drive. We have one New Zealand to coverage

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Speaker 1: like no one else.

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Speaker 3: New thoughts would be.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. The GDP number out today has come as something

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Speaker 2: of a shock. It was far worse than expected for

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Speaker 2: Q two, down zero point nine percent. That is three

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Speaker 2: times as bad as predicted by the Reserve Bank just

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Speaker 2: last month. Now, Nikola Williss is the Finance Minister, High Nicoler, Hi,

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Speaker 2: is this worse than you thought it would be?

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Speaker 21: Yes, the consensus forecast was that we did have a

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Speaker 21: negative quarter, but the view was that it was more

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Speaker 21: like zero point three percent. So this is bigger than forecast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now you're putting this down to the tariffs, right,

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Speaker 2: and I think to some extent you are right, but

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Speaker 2: it is bigger than that as well. There is domestic

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Speaker 2: stuff going on here.

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Speaker 21: Well, what we know is in the first three months

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Speaker 21: of the year we grew at zero point nine percent positive,

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Speaker 21: which was far faster than anyone had been forecasting, three

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Speaker 21: times the rate Australia was growing at that time. And

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Speaker 21: we know that the Trump tariff announcement really knocked the

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Speaker 21: stuffing out of people's confidence. And we'd felt in the

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Speaker 21: economy that drawback on an investment and hiring intentions. And

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Speaker 21: I think this data reflects that.

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Speaker 2: There is also the manufacturing collapse, which feels like it's

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Speaker 2: related to the energy prices.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, well, the manufacturing is also about the timing of

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Speaker 21: when farmers send stock to be processed. It's also about

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Speaker 21: how much inventory firms are stocking up for export. So

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Speaker 21: I think there are range of factors at play in

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Speaker 21: that manufacturing data. What we know now is that this

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Speaker 21: is a time to really be kicking off construction and activity.

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Speaker 21: So I'm pleased that today we've announced the first FastTrack

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Speaker 21: housing project that will see more than two thy seven

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Speaker 21: hundred jobs created in Nelson with hundreds of homes, an

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Speaker 21: uplift to GDP of three hundred and forty million. We

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Speaker 21: want to get more of those fast track projects underway,

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Speaker 21: more government construction underway. All of those will be tailwinds

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Speaker 21: for growth.

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Speaker 2: Are you worried that this is going to knock people's

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Speaker 2: confidence all over again?

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Speaker 21: Well, I don't think people should overread the data for

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Speaker 21: the second quarter. They need to remember that data and

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Speaker 21: forecasts do bounce around. In the first three months of

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Speaker 21: the year, As I said, we grew a lot faster

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Speaker 21: than anyone had predicted. We also know that we're now

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Speaker 21: in a different phase where growth by consensus is faster

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Speaker 21: than it was a few months ago. We've got those

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Speaker 21: bigger interst rate reductions coming through, and I'm sure that

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Speaker 21: the Reserve Bank will look at this data and see

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Speaker 21: that that underestimated how slow the economy had been, and

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Speaker 21: they'll have to reflect on that as they make future

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Speaker 21: interest rate decisions.

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Speaker 2: What I think the problem is is that it's going

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Speaker 2: to knock people's confidence in the institutions. Don't you think

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Speaker 2: is going to knock confidence in the Reserve Bank's ability

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Speaker 2: to see what is actually going on and do the

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Speaker 2: right thing with the ocr It is going to knock

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Speaker 2: people's confidence even in the government because you guys have

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Speaker 2: been saying for the longest time there are green shoots,

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Speaker 2: it's fine, we're on track, and then get this massive contraction,

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Speaker 2: maybe even in bank economists who haven't seen it. And

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Speaker 2: there's the problem, isn't it is that if you don't

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Speaker 2: know who to trust, you just keep your money in

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Speaker 2: your wallet.

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Speaker 21: Well, it's always the case that forecasts are crystal balls,

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Speaker 21: and no can ever be completely definitive. I think you

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Speaker 21: have seen the Reserve Bank pivot in August where they

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Speaker 21: really focused at that point on the downside risks to

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Speaker 21: growth and did price in that additional interest rate reduction.

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Speaker 21: For our part as a government, this reinforces why it

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Speaker 21: is not the time to be increasing taxes, Why we

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Speaker 21: should be doing the investment boost, tax deduction for businesses

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Speaker 21: making investments. Why we must fast track projects despite the

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Speaker 21: cries from environmentalists and others. We need to see that

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Speaker 21: activity happening. Why we must say yes to more overseas

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Speaker 21: investment and trade. We must get those spades in the

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Speaker 21: ground on the government's own infrastructure projects. All of the

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Speaker 21: activity that we're doing is more needed than ever, and

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Speaker 21: an alternative course of just simply borrowing more and spending

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Speaker 21: more would not have done anything to fix the second

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Speaker 21: quarter result.

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Speaker 2: It looks to me like we're going to get it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it must at least be a serious possibility

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Speaker 2: that we get a fifty basis point cut next month. Yeah.

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Speaker 21: Well, I've seen bank economists are predicting that others are

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Speaker 21: more cautious and their outlock ultimately will be for the

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Speaker 21: Reserve Bank to decide.

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Speaker 2: Nichola, thank you for your time. Nichola Willis Finance Minister.

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Speaker 3: Ever duper c Ellen, self driving.

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Speaker 2: Cars are no longer a thing of the future in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. Tesla has switched on their full self driving

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Speaker 2: feature for the country overnight, which means we will now

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Speaker 2: have motorists with their hands off the wheel potentially on

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Speaker 2: our oads. Greg Murphy is a key WE motorsabalet champ

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Speaker 2: and a road safety advocate and with us. Hey Greg, Hi,

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Speaker 2: how are you well but a bit nervous about this?

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Speaker 2: How about you?

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Speaker 22: Well, I think you've sort of got to read the

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Speaker 22: fine for a little bit too. I think it's actually

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Speaker 22: quite convoluted and how Tesler have come out with this

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Speaker 22: full self driving supervised in brackets. It does not make

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Speaker 22: the car autonomous and is intended to be used only

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Speaker 22: with a full attentive driver. So I'm a little confused

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Speaker 22: by there's been sort of systems and some cars Tesla's

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Speaker 22: predominantly for a little while that you know, allow people

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Speaker 22: to take their hands off the wheels and pieces. But

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Speaker 22: it concerns me greatly. You've got to pay for this though, either,

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Speaker 22: you know, it's a money making scheme, no surprise, no

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Speaker 22: surprise whatsoever that it's money making scheme for Tesla. So

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Speaker 22: one hundred and fifty five per month subscription for model

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Speaker 22: three and why vehicles. I'm concerned that people are going

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Speaker 22: to do this because they think it's cool.

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Speaker 8: And they think it's you know, it's a bit of

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Speaker 8: a fad thing. Again.

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Speaker 22: It's like I want to be the first to have

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Speaker 22: be able to drive around or have my car drive

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Speaker 22: me around with the hands off the wheel.

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Speaker 8: It really concerns me greatly.

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Speaker 22: To be fair, I mean, Tesla have got a haven't

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Speaker 22: got a clean record when it comes to their autonomous

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Speaker 22: vehicles around the world, with a few lawsuits that have

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Speaker 22: taken place in various places. So the best way to

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Speaker 22: be in a car if you are behind the steering

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Speaker 22: wheel is to be in control and be paying attention.

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Speaker 22: They are sort of saying, oh, well, this makes it easier, safer,

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Speaker 22: less stressful, like cruise control on steroids. To me, it

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Speaker 22: sounds dangerous and very risky and it concerns me greatly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't love the sound of it. Okay, what

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Speaker 2: are the rules? I mean, does the road rule that

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Speaker 2: do the road leaves here in New Zealand actually allow

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Speaker 2: for you to be in control of the vehicle with

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Speaker 2: your hands off the wheel.

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Speaker 22: That is a very good question that I don't have

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Speaker 22: the detail on it, and I'm picking based on when I

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Speaker 22: spoke to you producer earlier. No one seems to know

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Speaker 22: and no one seems to want to comment on it

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Speaker 22: from a regulatory perspective, So I don't know if there

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Speaker 22: is something written about it or not. But being that

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Speaker 22: the government hasn't seen anything in ZTA hasn't seen anything,

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Speaker 22: mot hasn't said anything.

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Speaker 8: Do they even know this was happening? Is it allowed

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Speaker 8: to actually happen?

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Speaker 22: I'm not really sure of what the regulations and rules

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Speaker 22: say about this, but as I said, you know, we've

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Speaker 22: got enough issues and they're probably claiming that this is

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Speaker 22: going to make it safe because our cars and our

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Speaker 22: cameras and the technology is going to be take some

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Speaker 22: of that risk away from drivers that you know, are

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Speaker 22: you know that do make mistakes, aren't attentive, aren't focused,

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Speaker 22: and are.

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Speaker 8: Distracted, so let's let the car do that.

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Speaker 22: Well, I'm not convinced that that is the way to

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Speaker 22: go about it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 8: And again it says you need to be attentive.

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Speaker 22: There's a whole loer of rules written in the article

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Speaker 22: about what you've got to do and what the car

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Speaker 22: will tell you to do if it senses that you're

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Speaker 22: not being attentive. So a little bit of information and

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Speaker 22: a little bit of knowledge by some people could be very,

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Speaker 22: very dangerous if they're expecting that this is going to

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Speaker 22: do something that it actually doesn't do. And again that's

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Speaker 22: a problem because a lot of technology and cars these days,

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Speaker 22: people understand a little bit about they rely on it

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Speaker 22: and they shouldn't rely on it. And that's because we

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Speaker 22: don't train, we don't prepare people for these things and

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Speaker 22: so that they understand what they've actually got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Greg, thanks well, said Greg Murphy, sport ke we

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Speaker 2: motorsport champion and road safety advocate.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So we called the police, and we called the NZTA,

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Speaker 2: we called the Ministry of for Transport, we called the

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Speaker 2: AA and none of them wanted to talk about this.

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Speaker 2: And we're not clear why, but it may be a

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Speaker 2: lack of understanding about the rules as possibly part of it. Listen,

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Speaker 2: let's deal next with the crusader's ticket pricing. I've got

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Speaker 2: a text here saying actually Heather, it's one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty seven US dollars to go to watch the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 2: So the Crusader Canterbury prices actually sound fairly reasonable. Talk

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Speaker 2: to Mick Beauley about that quarter past. Big news for

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Speaker 2: both business and nature lovers. One New Zealand has just

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Speaker 2: teamed up with the Department of Conservation in a partnership

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Speaker 2: that's all about protecting New Zealand's unique biodiversity using the

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Speaker 2: power of technology. So DOC has named One New Zealand

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Speaker 2: a new national Conservation partner and a collaboration that's expected

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Speaker 2: nature over the coming years. Now, thanks to One New

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Speaker 2: Zealand's cutting edge satellite to sal Tech, dock rangers are

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Speaker 2: doing their work. That will enable safer fieldwork, faster data collection,

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Speaker 2: smarter decisions in some of New Zealand's most remote places.

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Speaker 2: One New Zealand satellite text is already proving really valuable

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Speaker 2: in past where the dock rangers protect the Kiwi. It

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Speaker 2: allows them to keep in touch with base, get the

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Speaker 2: weather updates, request help of the need it as one.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand CEO Jason Powers says, this is about using

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Speaker 2: technology to help preserve our natural heritage. It's a powerful

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Speaker 2: combo of business smarts and environmental care, better connectivity, better

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Speaker 2: conservation and a win win for New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Heather dooperla.

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Speaker 2: By the way, as I've mentioned, there are now a

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Speaker 2: lot of calls from major banks for a fifty basis

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Speaker 2: point cut next month and then twenty five in November.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have a chat to Cali Ecold of

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Speaker 2: Westpac after six o'clock. Right now, it's nineteen past five. Now.

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Speaker 2: Some Crusaders fans are really unhappy at next season's membership prices.

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Speaker 2: Costs are jumping by up to forty percent as the

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Speaker 2: team moves into the new stadium. Nick Bewley is the

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Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB Crusader's commentator and with us Hello, Nick.

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Speaker 23: Good day, Heather.

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Speaker 2: Is this value for money or is it a ripoff?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 23: As Colin Man's, which of the Crusader's CEO, puts, the

887
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 23: experience will be akin to driving ferrari as opposed to

888
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 23: a Ford Katina going from the central city or going

889
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Speaker 23: from the Addington Stadium to the Central City. Stadium which

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Speaker 23: is online in April next year, and I kind of

891
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Speaker 23: get where he's coming from. However, the fact of the

892
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Speaker 23: matter is the Crusaders have seven home games in this

893
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Speaker 23: what makes up your membership ticket next year, three of

894
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Speaker 23: which are still out at the old stadium in Addington,

895
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Speaker 23: four in the new stadiums. That's probably why some fans

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Speaker 23: are most upset. But to be perfectly honest, I felt

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Speaker 23: like it was always going to be a big jump

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Speaker 23: because the stadium costs well over or almost at least

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Speaker 23: half a billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so am I reading this right? The adult reserved

901
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Speaker 2: seating which cost one hundred and forty dollars is now

902
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Speaker 2: going to jump up to about one four hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty dollars.

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Speaker 23: The numbers I've got in front of me, Heather, so

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Speaker 23: they have. The silver for this year was one hundred

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Speaker 23: and forty for the season, so seven games twenty bucks

907
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Speaker 23: a game. Effectively, that's now at two seven nine, so

908
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Speaker 23: that's effectively double. So these are seats that are behind

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Speaker 23: the posts for those who are familiar with rugby. For

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Speaker 23: the gold seating, two hundred ninety bucks this year, four

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Speaker 23: hundred and fifty five next year. These are all adult

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Speaker 23: prices by the way, a premium or three eighty five

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Speaker 23: seven five, Yes, well, obviously there's there's just more capacity

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Speaker 23: for the corporate hospitality and VIP seating, et cetera. When

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Speaker 23: you go from a fifteen thousand seat stadium to a

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Speaker 23: thirty thousand seat stadium, you can pay upwards of three

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Speaker 23: two hundred dollars for a season pass.

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Speaker 8: It gets you.

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Speaker 23: Into what's dubbed the Auto Tahi Lounge, all sorts of perks,

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Speaker 23: lovely fancy chair. I see even here it says luxurious toilets.

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Speaker 23: So look, it's a completely different experience that the premium

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Speaker 23: offering at Apollo Project Stadium in Addington was five hundred

923
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Speaker 23: and seventy five. So it obviously is more, but I

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Speaker 23: go back to the point that it is a very

925
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Speaker 23: different experience. It may price a few people out, which

926
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Speaker 23: is unfortunate, but this is the reality of the new

927
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Speaker 23: stadium and christ Church and also the reality of having

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Speaker 23: a substandard stadium for the last fourteen years.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Nick, Thanks very much, Nick Buley News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be crusaders common five hundred and seventy five dollars

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Speaker 2: for the premium membership up to three two hundred, whoof

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Speaker 2: South Island's doing well if you can afford that?

933
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Speaker 3: Five twenty two A hard questions, strong opinion.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand tand of

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Speaker 1: Power of Satellite Mobile News Dog said, be.

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Speaker 2: Uh five point twenty four. Right, let's talk about Jimmy Kimmel. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of Jimmy Kimmel. I don't find

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel funny. But then I don't find any of

939
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Speaker 2: that Late Night US humor particularly funny. However, I do

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Speaker 2: not think that what he said about Charlie Kirk's death

941
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Speaker 2: was bad enough to get him fired. So what he

942
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Speaker 2: said is we hit some new lows over the weekend

943
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Speaker 2: with the Maga gang desperately trying to characterize this kid

944
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Speaker 2: who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of

945
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Speaker 2: them and doing everything they can to score political points

946
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Speaker 2: from it. And then he questioned how upset Donald Trump

947
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Speaker 2: really was, saying, this is not how an adult grieves

948
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Speaker 2: the murder of someone he called a friend. This is

949
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Speaker 2: how a four year old mourns a goldfish. Now, look, yes,

950
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Speaker 2: that is tone death, but it is not a sackable offense.

951
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Speaker 2: In fact, I would argue that it's fair for commentators,

952
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Speaker 2: which he broadly is, to point out if they think

953
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Speaker 2: politicians are scoring political points on grief, which I think

954
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Speaker 2: some undoubtedly are. Now that is not to excuse everything

955
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Speaker 2: that has been said about Charlie Kirk. There are way

956
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 2: too many people online and on television and on various

957
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: other publications in the US particularly who have celebrated Charlie

958
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Speaker 2: Kirk's murder and have suggested that he basically got what

959
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Speaker 2: he was asking for. I find that sentiment unacceptable, and

960
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Speaker 2: in some cases I do find it a sackable offense.

961
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Speaker 2: But this is not a sackable offense. What I object

962
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Speaker 2: to here with what's happened is that we have just

963
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Speaker 2: flipped cancel culture, haven't we. And for the longest time,

964
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Speaker 2: people on the right were scared to say the wrong

965
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Speaker 2: thing because if they did then people on the left

966
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Speaker 2: would get them canceled. We have just reversed that. Now

967
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Speaker 2: now it is people on the left who are getting

968
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Speaker 2: canceled by people on the right, and it's presumably because

969
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Speaker 2: it's the right that is largely in power. And this

970
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Speaker 2: includes by the way, Jade Vance, the Vice president who

971
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Speaker 2: has celebrated a mass doxing attempt to find and name

972
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Speaker 2: people who are celebrating Childie Kirk's murder. This is not

973
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Speaker 2: a good outcome for anyone. People on the right should

974
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Speaker 2: know better than this because they have lived through being

975
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Speaker 2: the subject of cancel culture and they know how much

976
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Speaker 2: it sucks. No one should be canceled for saying something

977
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Speaker 2: as off yes, but still as innocuous as Jimmy Kimmel.

978
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Speaker 3: Has Heather dupless.

979
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Speaker 2: We're gonna put that to the huddle shortly. Also, by

980
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Speaker 2: the way, you know this, this this outfit AURA that's

981
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Speaker 2: been doing all of the facial recognition all of the

982
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: you know, the the retailers post their like shoplifting stuff

983
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Speaker 2: to it. It goes to the cops, the cops. It's helped.

984
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Speaker 2: It's been helping the cops like crazy to solve various

985
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: shoplifting and stuff like that. They are now going to

986
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Speaker 2: run the trial to test the live facial recognition stuff

987
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 2: in supermarkets. We're going to talk to the global head

988
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: of risk about that. He's going to be with us

989
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: straight after the news. Heather elections are won and lost.

990
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 2: On the economy, it's not looking good for a second.

991
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: National term well fair bet of water to go under

992
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: the bridge between now and the next election. How I

993
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Speaker 2: largely agree with that sentiment. This is not looking good,

994
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Speaker 2: especially when you look at that that polar came out

995
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago, suggesting National is actually coppying

996
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: the blame in a burg way for what's going on

997
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: with the economy. Anyway, we'll put that to the huddle.

998
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Speaker 2: They're gonna be us shortly, News talks d.

999
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

1000
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Speaker 1: It's heather of duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand

1001
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Speaker 1: coverage like no one else news talks.

1002
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Speaker 3: That'd be you were my.

1003
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 4: I'm dreaming, you trying to dream?

1004
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: All right, we have the huddle standing by Phil Goff

1005
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: and Thomas Scrimger will be with us. By the way,

1006
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 2: Roger Douglas is now calling for Nikola Willis to resign.

1007
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: It's both he and Robert mcculluch. Robert McCulloch being the

1008
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Speaker 2: macroeconomics professor from the University of Auckland. They say the

1009
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: GDP print out today is partly her fault because she's

1010
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: sending New Zealand bankrupt by failure to get to grips

1011
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: with our ballooning fiscal deficits and public debt, her own

1012
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: treasury on predicts who claim that New Zealand is on

1013
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: a path to surplus. It is not. Willis is not

1014
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: up to the job and is not leveling with the

1015
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: New Zealand public. Twenty four away from six. Now, you

1016
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: know this company that's helped retailers much more easily report

1017
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: shoplifting incidents to police, it's now going one step further.

1018
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: It's trialing live facial recognition technology. The new tech will

1019
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: alert retailers when someone walks in the door who has

1020
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 2: previously been flagged for serious offending. Nick McDonald is aura's

1021
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: global head of risk and with us. Hey, Nick got

1022
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Speaker 2: to hear that.

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Speaker 14: How are you very well?

1024
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Speaker 2: Thank you? So how does this work? Is it the

1025
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: case the shoplifter walks in CCTV picks up the face,

1026
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: your tech alerts the shop that someone dodgy is there.

1027
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, essentially, that's right.

1028
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 24: So the alert that's sent to the frontline shop workers

1029
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Speaker 24: based on the previous behavior of the person in the store.

1030
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Speaker 24: So that could be that they have been carrying a weapon,

1031
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 24: they've assaulted a staff member, that sort of thing, and

1032
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 24: then that will alert them to say, hey, is this

1033
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 24: the same person purely for identification per only with a

1034
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Speaker 24: lot of those safeguards built into the system as well

1035
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Speaker 24: to make sure we're protecting the privacy of the good

1036
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Speaker 24: people who haven't actually offended in the stores.

1037
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Speaker 25: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So, and at that point, it's basically up to the

1039
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Speaker 2: storekeepers how they deal with it, whether they refer it

1040
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Speaker 2: to the police or.

1041
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 24: What that's right, and even how they respond. There's lots

1042
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Speaker 24: of different ways they can respond. They can greet the

1043
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Speaker 24: person and as they walk in, or they might not

1044
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Speaker 24: approach at all because the person's been known to be

1045
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Speaker 24: violent or aggressive or carry a weapon, but it just

1046
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Speaker 24: gives them that really critical moment's notice so they can

1047
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Speaker 24: respond better and keep themselves safe.

1048
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Speaker 2: Is this information that will be shared between stores? So,

1049
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Speaker 2: for example, if the person has walked into another different store,

1050
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Speaker 2: totally different town, totally different kind of retailer, can I

1051
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: get alerted in my store that that person's a dodgy one.

1052
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Speaker 3: So the way in which we is a great question.

1053
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 24: The way in which we've built the system and built

1054
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Speaker 24: the solution for retailers is that we want them within

1055
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Speaker 24: their own information that they already have in our system.

1056
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Speaker 24: We want them to be able to keep their stores safe.

1057
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Speaker 24: So we're not going to share this or they're not

1058
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Speaker 24: planning to share this between retailers, but within their own

1059
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Speaker 24: store network, the expectation is that they would be able

1060
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Speaker 24: to share it because there is a need for that

1061
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 24: and they've got an obligation to keep their staff across

1062
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Speaker 24: their store network safe. But the key bit here, and

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Speaker 24: this is a really important point. We know that ten

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Speaker 24: percent of offenders are causing sixty percent of the harm,

1065
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Speaker 24: and we know that those repeat organized offenders are steering

1066
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Speaker 24: and you committing these acts of violence across a wide

1067
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Speaker 24: geographic area, and so it's quite important for the store

1068
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Speaker 24: to be able to share that information in the right way.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Now, given that shoplifting is proving to be quite

1070
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Speaker 2: a problem around the world, I would imagine that there

1071
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Speaker 2: is a fair bit of business that you guys might

1072
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Speaker 2: be able to do in places like Australia and the

1073
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Speaker 2: UK and stuff.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, so we're already established in those markets and we

1075
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Speaker 24: work with some of the largest retailers in the world.

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Speaker 24: And the thing that's really driving this is a few things. One,

1077
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Speaker 24: the crime has gotten more violent and that's a global trend.

1078
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Speaker 24: And it's organized as well, right. And then the technology

1079
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Speaker 24: that relates to the facial recognition element of this, which

1080
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Speaker 24: we don't build ourselves, we'll integrate with other providers of that,

1081
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Speaker 24: but that technology has gotten so much more accurate over

1082
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Speaker 24: the last two years, three years even.

1083
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Speaker 8: And then, of course.

1084
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Speaker 24: The retail leaders that we work with are telling us

1085
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Speaker 24: they've got an obligation, whether it's through law or just morally,

1086
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Speaker 24: to keep their people and their communities essentially safe. And

1087
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Speaker 24: so all of those factors combine, we think now's the

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Speaker 24: time for us to step into this space quite proudly

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Speaker 24: as well and support our customers.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Hey, Nick, thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Nick McDonald, Global head of Risk at AURA.

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty find your

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Speaker 1: one of a kind.

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Speaker 2: It's tweentty away from six And on the huddle of

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Speaker 2: this evening we've got Thomas Scringer of the Maximum Institute

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Speaker 2: in phil GoF former Auckland Mayor for my High Commissioner

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Speaker 2: to the UK. Hello you two, Thomas. How are you

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Speaker 2: feeling about that GDP number?

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Speaker 12: Oh yeah, it's pretty concerning, I think, and certainly the

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Speaker 12: government will be very, very unhappy with it. They've pitched,

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Speaker 12: you know, a lot of their identity as a government

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Speaker 12: of getting economic growth back. It's probably the flip side

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Speaker 12: of their challenges. They claim they're going to be the

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Speaker 12: ones to bring economic growth back. Governments don't actually create

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Speaker 12: economic growth. There's a whole lot of things outside of

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Speaker 12: their control, and now they're experiencing I guess the negative

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Speaker 12: side of that. They were wanting to claim credit for

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Speaker 12: the good news and now the bad news comes and

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Speaker 12: they have to wear it.

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Speaker 14: And Roger Douglas is right.

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Speaker 12: We're still running a structural deficit within the four cast period.

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Speaker 12: We're not returning to a surplus, so they have real challengesh.

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Speaker 2: So when you say Roger Douglas is right, do you

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Speaker 2: agree with Roger Douglass and Nicholaulas should resign.

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Speaker 12: No, I'm saying Roger Douglas is right about the structural deficit.

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Speaker 12: I'm not going to make a comment either way about

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Speaker 12: the Finance Minister's future, but certainly it is a real challenge.

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Speaker 12: She was talking a big game about getting us back

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Speaker 12: to a balanced budget and we're not there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now, Phil, what do you think about this? My

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Speaker 2: concern I want to know if you share my concern.

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Speaker 2: My concern is that we are so nervy and scared

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Speaker 2: at the moment and worried about what's happening with the

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Speaker 2: economy and whether we're through the worst of it, that

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Speaker 2: any kind of bad news like this just sets us back.

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Speaker 2: Do you worry about that?

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Speaker 26: Yeah, a little. I mean you've got to face up

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Speaker 26: to the reality though. I mean, this was a shocker

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Speaker 26: of a result. The Reserve Bank said the quarter would

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Speaker 26: decline by about zero point three, and it declined by

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Speaker 26: three times more than that point nine, And that means

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Speaker 26: three out of the last five quarters the economy has

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Speaker 26: been in recession. Look, I'm not into calling for people

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Speaker 26: to resign, but Roger Douglas is right that you've got

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Speaker 26: to come clean on the fact that your deficit is

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Speaker 26: continuing and you can't keep blaming. I mean, I found

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Speaker 26: this even in England, you know, hearing Kirstarma blame the

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Speaker 26: Conservatives for everything. I feel the same way when I hear,

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Speaker 26: you know, the National par to hear blaming its predecessor.

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Speaker 26: In the end, you know, nearly two years into your term,

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Speaker 26: you've got to start taking responsibility for your own actions

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Speaker 26: and whether they've been effective. And Douglas is right, as

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Speaker 26: Treasury is right, You've got to start to address problems

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Speaker 26: like you know, we're aging population, my generation, the baby boomers,

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Speaker 26: more cost on superannuation, more cost on healthcare, and you

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Speaker 26: can't turn a blind eye to that. So you've got

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Speaker 26: to start addressing some of the underlying problems and take

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Speaker 26: some of the hard decisions. And I don't think that's

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Speaker 26: been done now.

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Speaker 2: On the self driving Tesla's I'm I'm I'm a bit

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Speaker 2: freach out. I mean, look, I'm totally overstating this, Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm not freaked out. I'm a little bit nervous about it.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel.

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Speaker 12: Well, I'm mostly excited. I can't be worse than the

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Speaker 12: average keiw We driver. I mean, you know, I've been

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Speaker 12: known to be distracted before or tired, so I'm playing

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Speaker 12: on your phone quite exciting. Oh no, never that. But

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Speaker 12: you know we're not always at our best. So I

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Speaker 12: think self driving cars are an exciting development. I do

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Speaker 12: worry we're not ready for it in ZTA, seems like

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Speaker 12: there might be a little off guard. Certainly, our legislation

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Speaker 12: wasn't written with this sort of thing in mind, so

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Speaker 12: We're going to have to adapt pretty quickly because it's

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Speaker 12: just going to come faster and faster, more and more

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Speaker 12: people will get excited about it.

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Speaker 14: So, yeah, self driving cars work future.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Phil, but if I'm walking

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Speaker 2: down the road and I see a Tesla coming from now,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to be clapping eyes on that thing

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Speaker 2: like how, you know, just to avoid the kind of

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Speaker 2: sudden swerve into me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 26: Look, I'm not hugely worried because currently you've still got

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Speaker 26: to have a supervision. You've got to have somebody behind

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Speaker 26: the wheel, even though the car is theoretically capable of

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Speaker 26: being totally autonomous, So the rules in New Zealand, such

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Speaker 26: as they are, require a fully intentive driver at all times.

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Speaker 5: By law.

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Speaker 26: Tesla reckons that the car is fifty four percent safer

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Speaker 26: than a human driver, and that could well be right.

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Speaker 26: You know, the machines don't make the same mistakes as

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Speaker 26: human beings, but they might make different mistakes. What if

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Speaker 26: the system and coast down, you know, some something happens

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Speaker 26: and the electronics fail. You've got to be you've got

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Speaker 26: to be cautious about it.

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Speaker 14: But I'm not.

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Speaker 26: I'm not freaked out about it. Mind you, if I

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Speaker 26: did see a car coming down the road with no

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Speaker 26: driver behind the wheel, I kind of would look for

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Speaker 26: an escape room that was necessary.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's like, but it would freak you out.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break with the pair of you.

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Speaker 2: bring you all the best, but so you don't have

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Speaker 2: Phil Goff and Thomas Scrimger. Thomas, how do you feel

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Speaker 2: about Jimmy Kimmel' show being canceled?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 12: It seems like a bit of a bit of a

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Speaker 12: sketchy situation, really, and I think really disappointing. I mean,

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Speaker 12: we talk about kind of cancel culture and all of

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Speaker 12: that principles really matter. The American right was deeply worried

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Speaker 12: about cancel culture years under under the Biden administration, and

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Speaker 12: now they have asserted kind of cultural dominance, and now

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Speaker 12: the shoes on the other foot.

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Speaker 14: Now, Jimmy Kimmel was wrong.

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Speaker 12: He was straightforwardly articulating misinformation. He was not correct when

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Speaker 12: he was saying that the shooter was Maga, but that

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Speaker 12: that shouldn't matter.

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Speaker 14: He's a late night comic.

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Speaker 12: His job is to articulate opinions, to be funny or

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Speaker 12: try to be and he should be given wide leeway

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Speaker 12: for expressing his opinions. Yeah, I do wonder his show

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Speaker 12: is quite you know, old fashioned that late night TV,

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Speaker 12: and incredibly expensive. His you know, equivalent, Stephen Colbert's show

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Speaker 12: was losing tens of millions of dollars a year when

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Speaker 12: it was canceled. So maybe maybe the network is trying

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Speaker 12: to do him a bit dirty by canceling him for

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Speaker 12: another reason, looking for an excuse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, Yeah, I did wonder about that. Carry on.

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Speaker 12: Ah Yeah, But if you if you're upset about his

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Speaker 12: you know, his criticisms of the Maga movement and all

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Speaker 12: of that. If people are really really worried, the solution

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Speaker 12: is simple, have an argument with him. Charlie Kirk, at

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Speaker 12: his best, was arguing with people about things he believed.

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Speaker 12: To cancel Kimmel for expressing a controversial view is hardly

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Speaker 12: in the spirit of the life Charlie Kirk lived.

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Speaker 2: Will do you reckon film?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 26: Yeah, Look, I agree with what Thomas said. I think

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Speaker 26: that in addition to that, I think it's absolutely wrong

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Speaker 26: to weaponize assassinations by blaming your political rivals, as Trump

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Speaker 26: has done. I mean, we've seen a lot of people,

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Speaker 26: even as recently as June, where we had a congresswoman

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Speaker 26: in Minnesota, a Democratic congresswoman assassinated and a husband alongside

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Speaker 26: by a guy who just killed another law maker, and

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Speaker 26: the Democrats didn't come out and say this is a

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Speaker 26: Republican plot. I mean, Kimmle's was wrong. This guy wasn't Maga,

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Speaker 26: although his parents were registered Republicans. But you know, you

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Speaker 26: don't freedom are free in democratic society. You don't silence people,

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Speaker 26: and you don't get somebody in as powerful a position

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Speaker 26: as Brendan Carr was as chair of the Federal Communications Commission,

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Speaker 26: saying that the pull broadcast licenses unless Disney did something

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Speaker 26: about Kimmel's comments. The comments weren't absolutely offensive, they were

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Speaker 26: simply wrong. But if you're basing on things being wrong,

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Speaker 26: you know, fact checkers tell us at about seventy percent

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Speaker 26: of what Trump's is is not evidence based and he's

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Speaker 26: not being canceled. So I think you just got to

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Speaker 26: have You've got to have that open debate and you

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Speaker 26: don't weaponize and you don't polarize society in a way

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Speaker 26: that Trump is really prone to do. If you want

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Speaker 26: to look anywhere at the level of violence in the

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Speaker 26: United States, look at the gun laws, and look at

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Speaker 26: the culture of the place, and that explains why the

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Speaker 26: United States is much worse than any other country on

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Speaker 26: Earth that's a democracy in terms of that sort of

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Speaker 26: level of political assassination and gun violence.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, Thomas, Listen, there was an interesting survey which

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Speaker 2: were covered at the start of the program saying that

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Speaker 2: one in three young men believe the quality has gone

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Speaker 2: too far, like as in feminism. What do you think's

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Speaker 2: going on there?

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Speaker 12: Well, firstly, I think it's as we're taking surveys like

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Speaker 12: this with something of a grain of salt to get

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Speaker 12: this qualitative feedback. You ask a question and you think

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Speaker 12: you know what the respondent is hearing when you ask

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Speaker 12: the question, but they might be thinking about something else.

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Speaker 12: But when we talk about young men specifically, if those

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Speaker 12: are immediately you know, university age or school leavers. The

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Speaker 12: direct experience of the world is an education system in

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Speaker 12: which boys and young men are doing worse than girls

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Speaker 12: and young women. Now, obviously income and equality throughout a career,

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Speaker 12: men are still earning more.

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Speaker 14: But if we're looking at that youngest.

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Speaker 12: Cohort, educational equality has been achieved, and so that is

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Speaker 12: their most immediate experience. Probably we can also think it's

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Speaker 12: just a larger trend, I guess against the affirmative action

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Speaker 12: moves we've seen in previous years towards a more traditional

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Speaker 12: or conservative view among young men.

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Speaker 14: So there is a real shift, but I wouldn't overinterpret it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did wonder if it's the affirmative action stuff, Phil,

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Speaker 2: what do you reckon?

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Speaker 26: Yeah, I'm really curious as to why respect they think

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Speaker 26: that equality has gone too far, And the survey doesn't

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Speaker 26: really tell us that girls are doing better in education

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Speaker 26: and in a lot of areas. But I don't think

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Speaker 26: because they're being given any special advantages. We do have

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Speaker 26: a problem with young men and boys at school that

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Speaker 26: aren't doing as well as they should be, and I'm

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Speaker 26: not condemning them for that. I'm just thinking that if

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Speaker 26: we're going to address the problem we need to look

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Speaker 26: at why young men aren'ts are focused and aren't achieving

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Speaker 26: in the same way as young women. But absolutely wrong

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Speaker 26: for them to say it's all because equality's gone too far.

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Speaker 26: They need to look at why they're not doing better

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Speaker 26: and take some responsibility for that themselves. And we need

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Speaker 26: to look at the system to see how we can

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Speaker 26: make young men do better than they have been doing

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Speaker 26: in the education system.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, guys, thank you, appreciate your take and everything. There.

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Speaker 2: Phil Goff, Tomas Scrumger are huddle this evening. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to get you some bossy from the validatorue speech next

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Speaker 2: eight away from six it's the.

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Speaker 1: Heather dupas Allen Drive Full show bod My Hard Radio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks be.

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Speaker 9: All right.

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Speaker 2: Five away from six, Bussy's valedictory speech has started.

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Speaker 17: I did not come here on my terms. I was

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Speaker 17: summoned under difficult and unexpected circumstances, but I accepted that call. Today, however,

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Speaker 17: I leave by choice, not because I want to, but

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Speaker 17: because I have chosen to put my child first.

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Speaker 2: Now, Benjamin Doyle explains what they learned in parliament.

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Speaker 17: This place was not built for people like me, which

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Speaker 17: is precisely the point. It was built on the basis

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Speaker 17: of exclusion and control, on taking, hoarding and guarding power.

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Speaker 2: Now they say change is still possible, but it comes

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Speaker 2: at a price that they are not prepared to pay.

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Speaker 17: It's taken me ten months to truly comprehend what that means.

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Speaker 17: And while I do not accept that change is impossible

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Speaker 17: from inside, I have come to learn that it comes

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Speaker 17: with a price of violence and hate towards my people.

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Speaker 17: This is a price I am no longer willing to pay.

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Speaker 2: What a surprise. It's everyone else's fault. Also, Bossy has

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Speaker 2: a theory on who Parliament is best for.

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Speaker 17: This is a hostile and toxic place, especially if you're

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Speaker 17: not a sis, straight white man with a blue suit

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Speaker 17: and a briefcase.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, there we go. If there's any more, I

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Speaker 2: am getting a text from somebody who says that Bossy

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Speaker 2: is crying at the moment. So if there are other

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Speaker 2: parts from the valedictory that are worth bringing to your attention,

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Speaker 2: we absolutely will. By the way, just a really quick

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Speaker 2: update on the patches. We've been talking about the gang

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Speaker 2: patches and the judges giving the gang patches back to

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Speaker 2: the gang members. It turns out that there are three.

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Speaker 2: We thought it was two. It's three. And we found

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Speaker 2: this out because we asked the police this morning if

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Speaker 2: they're going to appeal the two cases that we know

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Speaker 2: of where the judges have given them back to the

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Speaker 2: money members, and they said, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: appeal all three cases. So there's a whole there's another

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Speaker 2: whole case that we weren't even aware of. So three's

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Speaker 2: a pattern, isn't it. Two's just you know, one incident,

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Speaker 2: two incidents. Three you could go, Okay, the judges is

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Speaker 2: definitely doing this thing, and they certainly are. Anyway, we'll

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Speaker 2: get you up to speed on that once we know

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Speaker 2: what the appeal is, and that's gonna probably take some

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Speaker 2: days or weeks. But next up, let's have a chat

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Speaker 2: to Kaliaccult, the chief economist of Westpac, about what happens

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Speaker 2: next and basically what he thinks should happen is the

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Speaker 2: ocr comes down by fifty paces points next month?

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Speaker 3: What win?

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Speaker 9: What win?

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Speaker 3: Keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather dutlessl and Mass for Insurance

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Speaker 1: Investments and the Quie Savor You're.

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Speaker 3: In good hands News Talks that'd.

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Speaker 2: Be wow evening coming up in the next hour. Sam

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Speaker 2: Dickey on the FED cutting by twenty five basis points,

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Speaker 2: Jamie McKay on the nitrates stunt, and end of Brady

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Speaker 2: on Trump in the UK right now at seven past six.

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Speaker 2: Now there are strong calls for the Reserve Bank here

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand to cut the ocr by half a

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Speaker 2: percent double cut when it meets on October eight. The

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Speaker 2: economy contracted much more than predicted, with a zero point

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Speaker 2: nine percent fall and GDP in the second quarter of

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Speaker 2: the year. Calia cold is the chief economist at Westpac. Hey, Kelly, Hi,

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Speaker 2: So what are you calling for fifty basis points next month?

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Speaker 2: Twenty five in November?

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Speaker 5: That's right, we upgraded our October call from a twenty

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Speaker 5: five point cut to a fifty point cup. Why well,

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Speaker 5: the GDP number was quite a bit weaker than everybody's predictions,

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Speaker 5: certainly the Reserve banks projections, which in this game are

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Speaker 5: the only ones that really matter. Last week, the governor

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Speaker 5: had indicated that if the data suggested they needed to

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Speaker 5: go faster, they would, So we're taking them at his

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Speaker 5: word there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but isn't it just Kellie? I mean, it's happened

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Speaker 2: in Q two. Q three is already better. Therefore, you know,

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Speaker 2: are we are we doing doesn't actually necessitate the fifty

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Speaker 2: basis points.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's going to take them more quickly

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Speaker 5: to the same point. I mean, I think it is

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Speaker 5: right that the Q three indicators look better than Q two,

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Speaker 5: but we didn't when we looked at the data have

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Speaker 5: a reason to think that it was all going to

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Speaker 5: totally unwind immediately. So hence, you know, it does make

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Speaker 5: sense that if the Reserve Bank thought they had a

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Speaker 5: lot of too much excess capacity in the economy back

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Speaker 5: in August, they're only going to think there's more now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think that, I mean, are you at

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Speaker 2: all worried about the impact this is going to have

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Speaker 2: on consumer confidence?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think in that sense, it's already old data.

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Speaker 5: And we did release our own long running consumer confidence

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Speaker 5: survey earlier this week, which showed that consumers we're not

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Speaker 5: feeling particularly chirpy compared to the last time that we

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Speaker 5: did the survey three months ago. So I think people

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Speaker 5: already know that. I think what they perhaps maybe heartened

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Speaker 5: by is that lower interest rates come in a bit sooner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, this is the thing isn't. It's I feel

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Speaker 2: like what's going on right now in this country is

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Speaker 2: that everybody is so nervy and so scared about what's

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Speaker 2: going to happen and whether we're actually through the worst

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Speaker 2: of it, that any bit of bad news just kind

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Speaker 2: of sets that off again. And so is the case

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Speaker 2: that if you cut the ocr by fifty basis points,

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Speaker 2: you just boost the confidence a little bit more.

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Speaker 5: That was the Reserve Bank's argument back in August that

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Speaker 5: they needed to move more aggressively to put in those

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Speaker 5: guard rails to try to break through that caution that

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Speaker 5: businesses and households were feeling, particularly I think in the

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Speaker 5: major urban areas where they just haven't been the beneficiary

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Speaker 5: so far of the big gaining term to trade there

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Speaker 5: with head Kelly.

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Speaker 2: Can we explain how the Reserve Bank got the so

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Speaker 2: monumentally wrong.

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Speaker 5: In terms of the GDP forecast. I think they got

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Speaker 5: it the same way wrong as we all did, where

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Speaker 5: it's just really difficult in the last couple of years

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Speaker 5: to forecast call the GENP numbers. You were recall in

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Speaker 5: the middle of last year, for example, we all got

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Speaker 5: blown out of the water in terms of what happened

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Speaker 5: in Q two or Q three. You know, I think

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Speaker 5: that you would have expected with two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 5: points of easing in the tin that the economy would

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Speaker 5: be more resilient to some of the shocks that have

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Speaker 5: been going on out there at the moment. And hence

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Speaker 5: they thought reasonably, I thought at the time that they

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Speaker 5: should be slowing down and seeing the effect of what

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Speaker 5: they've done. And I appreciate that in hindsight it probably

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Speaker 5: looks like they could have gone a bit faster and

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Speaker 5: a bit sooner. But you know, the measure of these

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Speaker 5: situations is that when you recognize that you've made a mistake,

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Speaker 5: that you take quick corrective action. And I think that

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Speaker 5: fifty point cut in October will certainly fit that.

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Speaker 3: Bill well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, the thing about it is, though Kelly,

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Speaker 2: I understand that this is a difficult thing to get right. However,

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Speaker 2: all of the data or heaps of the data through

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Speaker 2: Q two was showing us that there was problem a problem.

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Speaker 2: We've had such bad manufacturing numbers, we've had such bad

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Speaker 2: consumer confidence numbers, and then they held in July. Is

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Speaker 2: that can we explain that away? When this is the

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Speaker 2: lot who are supposed to be you have their finger

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Speaker 2: on the pulse of what's going on here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean they have an outcasting framework for

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Speaker 5: working out where they think the economy is in time,

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Speaker 5: and at that stage it wasn't telling them that Q

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Speaker 5: two was going to be a minus zero point nine.

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Speaker 5: It was probably telling them that we might have had

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Speaker 5: a minus point one or something like that. So they

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Speaker 5: embodied that into their forecasts at the time. But you know,

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Speaker 5: it's just to end up being worse than that. So

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Speaker 5: you know, it's one of those kind of Harry Hinde

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Speaker 5: sight things, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps so, Kelly listen, thanks very much, appreciate it. Kelly,

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Speaker 2: you are called chief economist at Westpac. Twelve past six

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Speaker 2: the world, I've got another example of our lack of humor,

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Speaker 2: claiming another ad stand by, I'm going to run you

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Speaker 2: through that shortly. Bussy has quoted a poem in their

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Speaker 2: valedictory speech. It's a poem called Rekindled by Tina Nata.

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Speaker 17: And for as long as I breathe my story, I

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Speaker 17: am not vanquished. I am at once the victor and

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Speaker 17: the fallen, still here today, walking, breathing, laughing, dancing, love making.

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Speaker 2: Interesting that everybody in the Green Party is there. Chloe's

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Speaker 2: fulbrick is not there. Now there could be a good

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Speaker 2: reason why Chloe's not there Thursdays Often, you know, leaders

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Speaker 2: of various parties maybe go off and do some other thing,

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Speaker 2: so that may be part of it. However, you would

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Speaker 2: expect that for a moment as big as the valedictory

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Speaker 2: of one of your MPs, generally you can't make an

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Speaker 2: effort to be there. But not Chloe's not there. Today

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Speaker 2: thirteen past six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather dus Alan Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Heart Radio empowered by Newstalks ebb's whether it's macro,

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Speaker 1: micro or just plain economics, it's all on the Business

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Speaker 3: You're in good hands NEWSTALKSB.

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Speaker 2: This is an interesting text. Ever, think about this, Heather,

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Speaker 2: What a shame that, after a week of the right

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Speaker 2: screaming that Charlie Kirk's death was an open attack on

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Speaker 2: free speech, an elected MP giving a speech to say

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Speaker 2: that they're leaving Parliament because of death threats received over

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Speaker 2: misunderstood social media from years ago gets erolls and glee

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Speaker 2: from a national radio station sixteen past six.

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Speaker 3: The Rural Report on Heather Duplicy.

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Speaker 2: Allan Drive, Jamie mckaye, host of the Countries with us

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Speaker 2: Elo Jamie.

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Speaker 7: Happy birthday cousin Heather, and I just think before we

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Speaker 7: start this wonderful conversation, especially after that last text, I

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Speaker 7: probably need to do a bit of a cunliff because

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Speaker 7: I am a sis, straight white male with the blue

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Speaker 7: suit and a briefcase. Don't take the briefcase to work anymore, Heather,

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Speaker 7: but I used to, so I need to apologize.

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Speaker 11: Jamie.

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Speaker 2: Listen, thanks very much for the birthday wish. Now, Federated

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Speaker 2: Farmers are they right to say that this night rate

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Speaker 2: emergency is just a political stunt?

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Speaker 7: Oh jeez, there's two sides to the story. So Federated Farmers,

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Speaker 7: their vice president, Colin Hurst, is based in Canterbury. He's

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Speaker 7: saying the nightrate emergency is a shameless political stunt and

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Speaker 7: won't how everybody remember it was the last day of

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Speaker 7: sitting for Ecan, who was certainly in the gun with

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Speaker 7: Farmers at the moment, and they passed it I think

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Speaker 7: by nine to seven to declare this emergency. So Feds

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Speaker 7: and Colin are saying all it will do is create

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Speaker 7: unnecessary panic and drive a wedge between our urban and

1514
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 7: rural communities. The night traits, I might add here that

1515
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 7: aren't all coming from the farmers. There's plenty coming from

1516
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 7: the city as well. So Hurst is saying that ecn's

1517
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 7: decision will undermine good work done by Farmer's Council EWEI

1518
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 7: and why community over the last few decades. The data

1519
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 7: shows the trends have been consistent for decades and nobody's

1520
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 7: disputing in feeds or elsewhere that there is an issue

1521
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 7: with nitrates in Canterbury. But they're saying to suddenly come

1522
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 7: out and call it an emergency as political theater there

1523
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 7: also took a shot at Greenpeace spreading misinformation about nitrates

1524
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 7: along the lines of linking nitrates to drinking water and

1525
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 7: drinking water to colon cancer. So Federated farmers are saying

1526
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 7: New Zealanders should take their health advice from medical professionals,

1527
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 7: not environmental activists with an anti farming agenda.

1528
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 2: Okay, now what about beef and lamb saying that the

1529
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: government law to stop the wholesale conversions of farmland to

1530
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: forestry doesn't go far enough. Where do you use it

1531
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 2: on that.

1532
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 7: I'm almost I think I'm with Beef and Lamb on

1533
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 7: this one because anecdotally anyhow, I mean, they're still carrying

1534
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 7: on in their merry way. I mean, this is a

1535
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 7: good step. The Climate Change Response Amendment Bill passed its

1536
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 7: third reading in Parliament will be law. As I understand

1537
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 7: in October, FEDS are not Feds. Beef and Lamb are

1538
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 7: saying it just doesn't go far enough to slow the

1539
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 7: rate of productive sheep and beef land being lost. One

1540
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 7: of their real gripes is they're really disappointed that their

1541
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 7: calls to extend the moratorium on whole farm conversions. This

1542
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 7: is when you plant the whole farm out. They want

1543
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 7: it extended to all classes of land, not just classes

1544
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 7: one to five, because eighty nine percent of whole farm

1545
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 7: conversions to date have occurred on land classes six to eight.

1546
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 7: Land class six in particular, is highly productive and vital

1547
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 7: to the sector. Now, Beef and Lamb are saying, we've

1548
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 7: already lost three hundred thousand hectares of sheep and beef

1549
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 7: farms to forestry since twenty seventeen. If we continue on

1550
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 7: a current trajectory, we'll lose another six hundred and fifty

1551
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 7: thousand hectares by twenty fifty. That's one million hectares, which

1552
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 7: would equate to eighteen percent or an eighteen percent drop

1553
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 7: in stock units. And they're quite rightly saying New Zealand's

1554
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 7: ets settings are artificially distorting the market. It is the

1555
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 7: empress new clothes, if you ask me, it's incentivizing this

1556
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 7: wholesale conversion. We're the only country in the world apart

1557
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 7: from Kazakhstan, to allow one hundred percent offsetting in its

1558
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 7: carbon pricing. And Kate Acklin from Beef and Lamb did

1559
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 7: qualify or quantify her comments by saying Beef and Lamb

1560
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 7: is not anti forestry, but the surgeon and whole farm

1561
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 7: conversions for carbon only forestries not being driven by timber demand.

1562
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 8: Which is pretty weak at the moment.

1563
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 7: It's the result of a carbon market skewed by poorly

1564
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 7: designed policy, and on that I agree one hundred percent

1565
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 7: with Kate Aklant.

1566
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Javi. As always, it's lovely to

1567
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,759
Speaker 2: talk to you. Jamie Mackay, host of the Country Listen

1568
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 2: this morning. Of course, if you follow what goes on

1569
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 2: with the FED, you will have seen that they did

1570
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: what had been expected for weeks it was a twenty

1571
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 2: five basis point rate.

1572
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 20: Cup.

1573
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 2: We're going to have a chat to Sam Dickey, Aficier

1574
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: of Funds about that in about fifteen minutes six twenty one.

1575
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big courts, the Business Hour

1576
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: with Heather dup Cellen and Mass for Insurance Investments and

1577
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: Huy Safer You're in good hands.

1578
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 2: News talks 'B whither if the Reserve Bank, the bankers

1579
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 2: and the politicians got off their asses, they would have

1580
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: seen how much commercial damage has been done out there.

1581
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 2: I have to agree with you on that, Sigmon. I

1582
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 2: just wonder if part of them, because look, some have

1583
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 2: seen it. Jared Kerr has seen it. Jared Kerr has

1584
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 2: been consistent in this all the way through. And I

1585
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: think if you listen to news talks THAT'DB, you would

1586
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: know that we have seen that there are some bad

1587
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 2: stuff going on out there. And I just wonder if

1588
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 2: these guys, perhaps in Wellington, are not spending enough time

1589
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: in the real world. The old Wellington bubble problem again. Anyway, Look,

1590
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 2: I got to talk about this. Our lack of humor

1591
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 2: has claimed another ad. This time it's an ad by

1592
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 2: the Department of Conservation and it's a promotional video showing

1593
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 2: a woman sitting on her front porch shooting a possum

1594
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: from a tree. The name of the video is Marjorie's Helping,

1595
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: Are You? And it's part of their plan to get

1596
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 2: us all to be involved in pest control and stuff.

1597
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: And it is clearly intended to be funny. Right, So,

1598
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 2: Marjorie's sitting there with a fur hat on and like

1599
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 2: some sort of a fur coat in her pearls, and

1600
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 2: she's got her it's very sort of you know, like

1601
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: conquer the West from the US, do you know what

1602
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 2: I mean? Like frontier type vibes. She's got her hat on,

1603
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 2: she's got the rifle on her lap, she's sitting tea,

1604
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 2: sipping some tea. Then she picks up a rifle and

1605
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: shoots the possum out of the perherdicaa tree and the

1606
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 2: possum falls to the ground. Well, the Dear Stalker's Association

1607
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 2: didn't like this, did they Callum? The national president complained

1608
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 2: about it. He raised concerns with Doc on Wednesday, and

1609
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 2: it's all the video has been paused as a result

1610
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 2: of he said to Doc. Well, it violates Doc's own

1611
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 2: permit conditions. Violates the Firearm Safety in the Arms Act.

1612
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 2: If it was the Deer Stalker's Association, we probably would

1613
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 2: have got dragged across the coals for it. Anyone killing

1614
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: possums on conservation land had to apply for trapping permits.

1615
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 2: Did Marjorie apply for trapping permits? Probably not. You don't

1616
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 2: just shoot the possums out. Just went on and on

1617
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 2: on and on with the complaints from Callum shoot possums

1618
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 2: out of trees. Rifle depicted was more powerful than it

1619
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 2: needed to be. There was no safety backdrop. Honestly, Callum,

1620
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 2: what's a Friday night with you? Like, when you pull

1621
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: the trigger, you're responsible for where that bullet lands, and

1622
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 2: in that scenario, that bullet could have landed anywhere. So yeah, Doc,

1623
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 2: you know what, this is a lack of it. This

1624
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 2: is a lack of humor. Marjorie's not real. No one

1625
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 2: dresses like Marjorie anymore. No one sits on the porch

1626
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: in your furs and your pearls, sipping your tea and

1627
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 2: shooting possums out of the tree. It was meant to

1628
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 2: be funny. So twenty six past six show bears. Oh yeah,

1629
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 2: if you know that you're excited the lane Way lineup

1630
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 2: came out today. It's one of the biggest days of

1631
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: the year for the Kiwi music fans. The annual music

1632
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 2: festival tours around Australia and then it comes down and

1633
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 2: visits US at Western Springs and they bring massive artists

1634
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: right with. Laneway also managed to get some of the

1635
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 2: biggest up and coming ones and stuff before they get famous.

1636
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 2: For example, Billie Eilish performed as a BTA act all

1637
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 2: the way back in twenty nineteen and now look where

1638
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: she's gone now. This year list of artists is being

1639
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 2: touted as the best in Laneway's history. And if you

1640
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 2: don't know any of these people, do not worry. Just

1641
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 2: you know, run them by your kids. They'll tell you.

1642
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 2: Who they are headlining is none other than the Midwestern

1643
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: Princess herself, Chapel Rohne. Fans are predicting the show is

1644
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 2: going to sell out with her name alone.

1645
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:19,839
Speaker 17: A full ninety minute spectacle.

1646
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 13: I think that's that's huge, man, Like we usually get like,

1647
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 13: what's seventy minutes, but ninety minutes and she's exclusive at Laneway.

1648
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 14: Oh man, this.

1649
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 2: Is going to sell out so incredibly quickly. Last year

1650
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 2: the show got a bit of flat for being two

1651
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 2: female centrics. So they've announced some artists. For the boys,

1652
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,839
Speaker 2: Young Lean is going to be performing a set with Bladey.

1653
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 2: We don't know how to pronounce these things. They've also

1654
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 2: got low fi indie rock Darling Alex g and then

1655
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 2: for the Kiwi musicians, they've got Ringlets and Womb and Mocktron.

1656
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 2: They're all going to put on a show. I know,

1657
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,799
Speaker 2: I know we're feeling old right now. I know tickets

1658
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 2: are going to go on sale on Tuesday, So good luck.

1659
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 2: Laneway is happening as you know, February fifth day before

1660
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 2: White Tonguey Day, twenty twenty six. Sam Dicky with us next.

1661
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 3: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1662
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with the header due for Cellen and

1663
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: Maz for insurance investments and Chewie Saber and you're in

1664
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: good hands.

1665
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 3: News talks'd be.

1666
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 2: But Indebrady is with us out of the UK. People

1667
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 2: in the UK are not loving how thick Starmer is

1668
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 2: laying it on with Donald Trump. So we'll just get

1669
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: a bit of a vibe check with Inderwin. He's with

1670
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 2: us shortly hither. I just left my grandma's house. She

1671
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: is sitting there with a cup of tea and the

1672
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 2: twenty two, waiting for the possum that nibbled the cabbage

1673
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 2: last night. The possum is not going to go to waste.

1674
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 2: It's going to be served with the rest of the

1675
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 2: cabbage tomorrow night. I don't know if that is a

1676
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 2: true story from Wayne, but I hope it is. Twenty

1677
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 2: four away from seven now. This morning, the Fed delivered

1678
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 2: what markets had been expecting for weeks. It was a

1679
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 2: twenty five basis point rate cut. But the thing is

1680
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: that the US medium term interest rates actually higher following

1681
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 2: the cuts. So let's have a look at what's going

1682
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 2: on here. Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds is with us ay, Sam,

1683
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: good evening here. Why did the interest rates rise and

1684
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 2: how did the other asset classes react.

1685
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 3: It does seem like a bit of a paradox.

1686
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 27: You cut your benchmark rate and market interest rates go up.

1687
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 27: But like you said, this had been fully expected by

1688
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 27: the market ever since the US job market started to

1689
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 27: soften in earlier was so. In fact, at this time

1690
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 27: yesterday the market was pricing a one hundred and five

1691
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 27: percent chance of a rate cut today, which is a

1692
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 27: silly number. What that really means is the market was

1693
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 27: pricing a small chance of two rate cuts today, so

1694
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 27: the market was a little disappointed. The old buy the rumor,

1695
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 27: sell the fact. But on top of that, Palden commit

1696
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 27: to aggressive easing. He said he would do a kind

1697
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 27: of meeting by meeting approach, and in fact, the few

1698
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 27: raised their full year growth forecast from one point six

1699
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 27: to one point eight percent. So many in the market

1700
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 27: were hoping, you just commit to a fairly aggressive easing

1701
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 27: policy on the back of extremely weak jobs numbers, but

1702
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 27: he didn't do that. Other asset classes were pretty muted.

1703
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 27: US equities march higher, of course, upper touch. But the

1704
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,759
Speaker 27: big move was the dollar. So because interest rates are higher,

1705
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 27: that means investing the US dollar and putting money in

1706
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 27: the bank there is relatively more attractive. So the US

1707
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 27: dollar went up and things like the KI dollar and

1708
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 27: Aussie dollar fell very sharply on the back of it.

1709
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 2: Now, what do you think is the real story behind

1710
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 2: the Fed's nine month paused before this?

1711
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 27: Yes, a lot of intrigue around this. So you have

1712
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 27: to take your hat off to.

1713
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 5: Powe and co.

1714
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 27: For standing fast for nine months in the face of

1715
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 27: President Trump. So President Trump has called him in recent

1716
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 27: months he complete failure and a real dummy because he

1717
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 27: should have cut rates some time ago, according to the administration.

1718
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 27: And of course presidents want to pressure the FED to

1719
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 27: ease rates rapidly because it stokes the economy and makes

1720
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 27: the administration look good ahead of midterm elections next year.

1721
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 27: But the Feed, on the other hand, has been concerned

1722
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 27: about the inflationary impact of tariffs, especially now tariffs have saddled, settled,

1723
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 27: and the rubber's going to meet the road there.

1724
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,520
Speaker 2: What do you think this all means for investor Sam?

1725
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 27: I don't think Power is playing politics. I think he

1726
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 27: is doing what he's supposed to do, which is as

1727
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 27: maintainers independence, which I take my hat off to him.

1728
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 27: Remember inflation that the rubber does meet the road on

1729
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,759
Speaker 27: inflation from here. So Home Depot, who we spoke to recently,

1730
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 27: who have held pricing firm despite the fact they import

1731
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,440
Speaker 27: a lot of goods from around the world.

1732
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Speaker 3: They're subject to tariffs. They had a lot of low price.

1733
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 27: Inventory that the imported before the tariffs hit, but they

1734
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 27: basically run out of that low priced inventory, and they

1735
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 27: are strongly signaling that they will lift prices from here

1736
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 27: so if we do start to see arise in inflation,

1737
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 27: that might sort of tie the Fed's hands a wee bit.

1738
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 3: But if not, there's plenty more room to ease.

1739
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 2: Okay, Sam, Look, it's good to talk to you, as always.

1740
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 2: To talk to you again very soon, Sam Dickey official

1741
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 2: funds right now, it is twenty one away from seven. Ever,

1742
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 2: d I've been meaning to mention this, but I completely forgot.

1743
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:12,839
Speaker 2: But you do need to know this. You know Jamie Beaton,

1744
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 2: who's the education wunderkind. He apparently considered running for national

1745
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: in the Auckland seat of Tarmaki. Apparently, according to Business

1746
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 2: Desk have been reporting this. He thought about it, he

1747
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 2: started some outreach work, like got quite far down down

1748
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: the path of this, started raising funds for the party.

1749
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 2: But as they were going through the selection progress his

1750
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 2: name process, sorry, his name dropped off the list of

1751
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 2: potential candidates. Had he run, he would have had a

1752
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: reasonable shot at it, because I mean he would have

1753
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 2: had a reasonable shot at being selected because he is incredible,

1754
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 2: but then also at winning the seat because it is

1755
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 2: actually a blue seat. It's only recently just last election

1756
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 2: that act On that Brook Van Down than Velden won it.

1757
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 2: For the first time. But he has obviously decided against it,

1758
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 2: so that's the thing that's not going to happen. Frankly though,

1759
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 2: given all of the businesses that he's running and how

1760
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: well he is doing, and all the travel that he's doing,

1761
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 2: I am surprised even thought about it. I don't know how

1762
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 2: he would have the time. But yeah, got on him

1763
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 2: for having a little bit of a think about it

1764
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 2: now staying in politics. So it got a little bit

1765
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: awkward at a mirroral debate in Wellington with a bit

1766
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 2: of snatching going on. So the background to what happened

1767
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 2: at this mayoral debate is that ray Chung has said

1768
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,759
Speaker 2: that he's broken away from a group called Better Wellington

1769
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:30,759
Speaker 2: because they've been getting a fair bit of negative press.

1770
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 2: But there are doubts as to just how much he's

1771
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 2: actually broken away from Better Wellington. He says he has,

1772
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 2: people don't believe it. So they're at this debate and

1773
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: he's busy speaking. By the way that the debate is

1774
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 2: run by the local newspaper there, the Post. He's busy speaking.

1775
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 2: While he's speaking, Andrew Little leans over the table takes

1776
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 2: ray Chung's speech notes and points out that he thinks

1777
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 2: that they are written by this group Better Wellington. Behind

1778
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 2: the camera, what you can't see is Ray Chung's two

1779
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 2: staffers trying to get his attention and signal to him

1780
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 2: to stop speaking. And then at the point, after a

1781
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,839
Speaker 2: little while of Andrew Little having taken this away, Chunk's

1782
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 2: campaign volunteer walks in front of the camera, intervenes, tries

1783
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: to snatch the speech away from Andrew Little. She can't

1784
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 2: get it away from him, so she throws her hands

1785
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 2: up in frustration. And this is what it all sounded like.

1786
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,879
Speaker 3: The raise come here with a speech drafted Peta Willington.

1787
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 1: If you've voted Andrew Little, you will, you will, you will,

1788
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 1: You'll be saying continued rights rises.

1789
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: So anyway, it would appear that the crazy and Wellington

1790
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: Local Body politics shows absolutely no sign whatsoever of abaiting

1791
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 2: nineteen away from seven.

1792
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,440
Speaker 3: Croating the numbers and getting the results.

1793
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: It's hither dule c allen with the Business Hour and

1794
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:51,839
Speaker 1: MAS for insurance investments and Kuie Saber you're in good hands,

1795
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 1: news Tog said.

1796
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 2: Be Wayne has followed up the story. It appears is

1797
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: not true because Grandma is not sitting there with a

1798
01:27:58,200 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 2: cup of tea she's in fact sitting there with the

1799
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 2: gin and waiting to shoot the possum. Actually, to be fair,

1800
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 2: I mean that's entirely believable. If you've if you've been

1801
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 2: anywhere where someone loves a gin and tonic and a

1802
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 2: gun on a farm, and I'm thinking of somebody in

1803
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 2: particular here. They do love to sit out there sometimes

1804
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 2: just waiting for a pest, don't they, And then take

1805
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 2: the pest out, carry on with life. Not a big deal.

1806
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 2: But don't tell the Deer Stalkers Association anyway. Listen, if

1807
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 2: you're beating yourself up because you're carrying a little bit

1808
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: of weight, I have got some fantastic news for you.

1809
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 2: There is a study out of Denmark that suggests you're

1810
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 2: okay if you're carrying a bit of weight. What you

1811
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 2: don't want to be is super skinny. Actually, if you're

1812
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 2: super skinny, and this is according to the BMI's I'm

1813
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 2: going to give you the BMS in a minute. If

1814
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 2: you're super skinny, you are three times more likely to

1815
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 2: die early than people who sit in the kind of

1816
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 2: middle to upper end of the so called healthy range

1817
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 2: of the BMIs. Now, before you write this office any

1818
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,600
Speaker 2: another study this is eighty five thousand adults, and the

1819
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 2: Danes have done the study right, so we can believe

1820
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 2: this one. So basically, this is the BMI that you've

1821
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 2: got to care about. If you are one of those

1822
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 2: ridiculous people. I don't even know how you exist in life,

1823
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 2: but you have a BMI below eighteen point five, you

1824
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 2: are in trouble. You need to get your you need

1825
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 2: to get fat and get your BMI. Apps who about

1826
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: twenty two point five to between twenty two point five

1827
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: and twenty four point nine, because what happens is, basically

1828
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 2: the researchers found there's a U shaped curve when they

1829
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 2: PLoP the BMI against mortality. Those with the lowest BMIs

1830
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: and then the highest BMIs sit at the top of

1831
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 2: the U. They are the ones at greatest risk of death.

1832
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 2: And they seem to think that you're actually at a

1833
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 2: greater risk of death if you're super skinny than if

1834
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 2: you're just kind of starting to edge up towards the fat.

1835
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 2: Having some fat reserves, they say, can help the body

1836
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,879
Speaker 2: cope with illness. For example, patients who undergo cancer treatments

1837
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,679
Speaker 2: such as chemotherapy tend to lose weight due to factors

1838
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 2: such as appetite loss and changes to taste. Those with

1839
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 2: more fat reserves at the start can draw on them,

1840
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 2: helping their bodies continue essential functions. In contrast, someone with

1841
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 2: very little fat may run out of reserves, quickly limiting

1842
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 2: their bodies of below to recover. Now, did we or

1843
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 2: did we not always know this? Because if you look

1844
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 2: back through history, what you'll find is all the people

1845
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 2: who were celebrated with the fatties, won't they. I mean,

1846
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 2: that's why Ruben, that's everything that Ruben was about. All

1847
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 2: Reuben's paintings celebrate fat ladies. So basically the idea is,

1848
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 2: stop celebrating being super skinny, get back to carrying a

1849
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 2: little bit more fat because you might need it. You're

1850
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 2: welcome thirteen away from seven, Heather, do for seel Let

1851
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,719
Speaker 2: me feel better about life right now? Into Brady UK

1852
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 2: correspondence with us alo Enda.

1853
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 25: Hey, Heather, how are you?

1854
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 2: You'll have a BMIVE around nineteen, won't you?

1855
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 25: I actually don't know what it is. I know what

1856
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 25: my VO two max is and that's the best measurement

1857
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 25: of fitness. That's fifty eight. So I think I'm doing

1858
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 25: okay there, But look I'm forty nine. I'm six foot

1859
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 25: three and away eighty five kilos and I'm a happy man.

1860
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 2: What's a VO two max.

1861
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 25: It's the amount of oxygen. It's the maximum amount of

1862
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 25: oxygen that your lungs can use in a minute while exercising.

1863
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 25: And just as a guide, the guy who won the

1864
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 25: Tour de France would maybe hit seventy nine eighty yep,

1865
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 25: and I'm fifty eight. Soh anyway, let's see how many

1866
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 25: marathon medals he has.

1867
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, that's right. Ind you just be happy

1868
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 2: with you now, Okay, what did you think of Milania's outfit?

1869
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 25: Do you know what I would love to meet this woman,

1870
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 25: wouldn't I wouldn't mind interviewing her. Obviously that's probably never

1871
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 25: gonna happen, but I'd love to just have a beer

1872
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 25: with her or a glass of wine and chat. I

1873
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 25: think she has seen everything, knows everything. She is one

1874
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 25: of the most intriguing women in the world. The outfit. Yeah,

1875
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 25: I hear arguments for and against, but I think it

1876
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 25: has all gone swimmingly well so far. Today's the big test.

1877
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 25: Why press conference? So if you notice President Trump has

1878
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 25: not been exposed to any members of the press or

1879
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 25: the public. Yet he's met nobody apart from soldiers and

1880
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 25: the royal family. That's it. And I'm guessing servants at

1881
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 25: Windsor Castle and some Americans in the American embassy. He

1882
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 25: has not been exposed to the British press yet. So

1883
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 25: today is a big, big day. There's bilateral meeting with

1884
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 25: Keir Starmer at checkers out in Bookingham. Sure, so that

1885
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 25: will all be about trade deals and whatever little crumbs

1886
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 25: off the American blanket we can hoover up here. And

1887
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 25: then there will be a news conference and that's when

1888
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:14,839
Speaker 25: it's going to get interesting.

1889
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,640
Speaker 2: But this will be tightly controlled, won't it, In the

1890
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 2: way that it often is with visiting dignitaries. You get

1891
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 2: about three questions and that's about the extinct of it.

1892
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 25: I think they'll do their absolute best to control it.

1893
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 25: I think they'll keep it super short, like they did

1894
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 25: with the Putin press conference in Alaska after that meeting

1895
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 25: with Trump. But you know, this is the UK press

1896
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 25: that President Trump is going to be exposed to first,

1897
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 25: and foremost people will be asking questions about Peter Mandelsson

1898
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 25: and Jeffrey Epstein, and then I think if people wanted

1899
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 25: to be really troublesome. Trump is very good friends with

1900
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 25: Nigel Farage and he is running away with the polls

1901
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 25: at the moment, and I think it would be really

1902
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 25: awkward if someone were to ask him a question and say,

1903
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 25: mister President, do you think your friend Nigel Faraj will

1904
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 25: be Prime minister here in four years time? That could

1905
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 25: get interesting because he clearly likes Forage. They get on,

1906
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 25: there is a relationship, and Forage actually fancied being the

1907
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 25: UK ambassador to the United States when Trump won, and

1908
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 25: obviously that was never gonna happen. And now for Age's ambitions,

1909
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 25: he's not going to be happy with being an ambassador.

1910
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 25: He wants to be in number ten.

1911
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

1912
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:24,799
Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, how's the public feeling about how thick Stama

1913
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 2: is laying it on.

1914
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 25: I think it's sticking a little bit for a lot

1915
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 25: of people because it's just so much. You know, it's

1916
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 25: the biggest state visit ever. We're told in living memory,

1917
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 25: more music, more military, more soldiers, more aircraft, just more

1918
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 25: and more and more. And it's like someone typed into

1919
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 25: AI what would Trump like when he comes to England,

1920
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 25: and that's what they've done. It's just like off the scale.

1921
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 25: So I think the average person thinks that, you know,

1922
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 25: perhaps it's a little bit too much, but I think

1923
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 25: if you look at the relationship, look of where the

1924
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 25: UK is right now, absolutely desperate for trade deals, no

1925
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 25: growth in the economy whatsoever. Brexit has absolutely destroyed this

1926
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 25: country and Britain is very much afloat on the edge

1927
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 25: of Europe. France is on the brink of going bust,

1928
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 25: the Germans have no growth whatsoever. Starmer's doing his absolute

1929
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 25: best and I think this was the UK's trump card,

1930
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:20,639
Speaker 25: no pun intended. Okay.

1931
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,679
Speaker 2: Now on the recognition of the Palestinian state that's happening

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Speaker 2: this weekend is it as.

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Speaker 25: Soon as Trump leaves, So that's not happening today. It's

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Speaker 25: being very carefully core choreographed this weekend time wise, So

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Speaker 25: there's the UN General Assembly next week and as soon

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Speaker 25: as the Trumps are out of town tomorrow tonight, and

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Speaker 25: then there will be work on this tomorrow expecting announcement

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Speaker 25: Saturday afternoon. Kirs Starmer is going to recognize Palestinian statehood

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Speaker 25: and this is huge next week so you will have Britain, France,

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Speaker 25: Canada and Australia all heading to the UN General Assembly

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Speaker 25: and recognizing Palestinian statehood. This has never happened before in

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Speaker 25: the UK. I think there's such feeling on the streets

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Speaker 25: now that Israel has just done so much damage and

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Speaker 25: killed so many people in Gaza, and yes, the hostages

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Speaker 25: have to come home, but the scale of the response

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Speaker 25: has just been so disproportionate that people will back this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Enda, thank you so much. Appreciate your time, mate,

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Speaker 2: look after you. Stuff that's into Brady, our UK correspondent.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Kate oh got I forget what I'm

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Speaker 2: supposed to call her Catherine. Catherine was wearing as in

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Speaker 2: Kate Middleton was wearing a New Zealand designer. Again this

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Speaker 2: is one of her favorites, actually, Amelia Wicksteed. She was

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Speaker 2: wearing a coat by Amelia. So it's a burgundy coat,

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Speaker 2: familiar shape for Royal watches, because of course people know

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Speaker 2: that she loves to wear Emilia's stuff and Amelia stuff

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Speaker 2: looks like Amelia stuff, so you'll have known it immediately.

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Speaker 2: It's a woolcoat featuring a double breasted silhouette with buttons

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Speaker 2: across the front and a tapered waistline. So very good

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Speaker 2: day for Amelia because the minute Kate wears anything because

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Speaker 2: she looks stunning. She'll have a BMI under nineteen obviously,

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Speaker 2: so she's in the danger zone of being too skinny.

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Speaker 2: But she looks stunning in her outfits, and I imagine

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Speaker 2: that everything sells. Eight away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Listen before I go, I have to give you something

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Speaker 2: that that's a little bit optimistic. I've had an emails

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Speaker 2: five away from seven. By the way, I've had an

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Speaker 2: email from Graham, and Graham says, don't worry about the economy.

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Speaker 2: He reckons month by month, thinks are better in his

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Speaker 2: business than they were a year ago. The financial year

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Speaker 2: today starting April has basically gone like this for him.

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Speaker 2: April very similar to April twenty twenty four. May an

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Speaker 2: improvement on May twenty twenty four, June big improvement on

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Speaker 2: June twenty twenty four. July crashed and was horrible. It

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Speaker 2: was the school holidays. August improvement on August twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: and this September so far very busy and well ahead

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Speaker 2: of September twenty twenty four. So from what I can see,

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Speaker 2: says Graham, and we sell product anywhere from six hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars to ten thousand dollars. Buyers a back in the market.

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Speaker 2: NEWCAS sales will be also good for real estate is

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Speaker 2: picking up where we live in Remy, where it properties

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Speaker 2: are selling above CV for the first time, lots of

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Speaker 2: bidders in the nine hundred k to two million dollar range.

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Speaker 2: So there we go. We've been through the worst of it.

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Speaker 2: It is on the improvement and hopefully what we saw

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Speaker 2: today doesn't knock our confidence too much.

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Speaker 9: Libby I've got a bit of Jade for us today,

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Speaker 9: who is a previous member of the girl band Little Mix,

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Speaker 9: and she released an album last week, and the song

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Speaker 9: I've Got for Us is a song off that album

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Speaker 9: that's done really well even though it's not a single,

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Speaker 9: and people are loving it because it samples a Supreme's

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Speaker 9: song Stop in the Name of Love, and Jade has

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Speaker 9: kind of admitted that she is getting absolutely no royalties

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Speaker 9: at all from the song because it has the Supremes

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Speaker 9: track in it, so.

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Speaker 2: The Supremes get all the royalties.

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Speaker 9: They get all of the royalties, and that's the only

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Speaker 9: reason that she could get their sample. So she's Wow accepted.

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Speaker 2: And so were people liking it because they're like the tune,

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Speaker 2: or they're liking it because she's a good bird giving

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Speaker 2: the royalties to the people she sampled.

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Speaker 9: Maybe a mix of both. I think people are liking

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Speaker 9: it for the sample and they're kind of like, how

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Speaker 9: did you get your hands on that? And she's gone

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Speaker 9: where I'm getting absolutely nothing for it.

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Speaker 2: K Okay, let's have a listen. I appreciate that. All right,

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Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow. Fry Yay enjoyed the song.

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