WEBVTT - On The Front Foot Episode 216: Celebrating a win over Bangladesh 0:00:09.093 --> 0:00:11.973 You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Sat B. 0:00:12.373 --> 0:00:15.173 Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on 0:00:15.333 --> 0:00:16.133 iHeart Radio. 0:00:21.333 --> 0:00:30.813 Trick it is out, the test is Overn't smokes a beauty. 0:00:30.853 --> 0:00:34.093 It is out here he goes this delivery has. 0:00:34.573 --> 0:00:35.733 Uses revolved. 0:00:37.693 --> 0:00:41.093 On the front foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Cody, 0:00:41.413 --> 0:00:45.293 powered by News Talk, said B at iHeart Radio. 0:00:46.893 --> 0:00:50.053 Hello, We're back on the front foot this week. We 0:00:50.173 --> 0:00:55.213 celebrate the eighteen success in Bangladesh against the Elements England 0:00:55.373 --> 0:00:57.933 that take a new attitude and a new team into 0:00:57.973 --> 0:01:00.733 the Zimbabwe Test. And the West Indies name a new 0:01:00.813 --> 0:01:05.773 Test captain after an exhaustive program back to some normality 0:01:05.933 --> 0:01:09.013 in the cricket ward. It's hard to believe the IPL 0:01:09.133 --> 0:01:11.573 still game. I thought they were going to finish that off. 0:01:12.133 --> 0:01:16.733 The PSL has got itself back on track and there 0:01:16.773 --> 0:01:21.533 minus some of their original signings from abscondent when hostilities 0:01:21.533 --> 0:01:25.333 broke out and a Test match duet Lord's goodness, gracious 0:01:25.373 --> 0:01:29.293 me a Test match. But our team in Bangladesh in 0:01:29.533 --> 0:01:33.853 Select now into their final game in Dhaka. A good 0:01:33.933 --> 0:01:37.813 win in Select, Jeremy Cooney, but I'm encouraged by that effort, 0:01:37.813 --> 0:01:41.813 because we all know Bangladesh is not an easy place 0:01:41.853 --> 0:01:44.453 to tour anywhere on the subcondinent. It's not an easy 0:01:44.493 --> 0:01:45.333 place to tour. 0:01:45.093 --> 0:01:46.093 It isn't. 0:01:46.413 --> 0:01:49.173 You're quite right, very different from what the players are 0:01:49.213 --> 0:01:51.933 accustomed to. I thought when you said we're going back 0:01:51.973 --> 0:01:54.613 to some normality, you might say, oh, a four day games, 0:01:55.653 --> 0:01:59.213 and I thought you might be referring to the A side. 0:01:59.453 --> 0:02:04.333 But yeah, and a test match. Look, I enjoyed. 0:02:05.493 --> 0:02:07.813 I enjoyed watching a bit of that game. I didn't 0:02:07.813 --> 0:02:13.493 see a lot, but clearly they got the worst of 0:02:13.533 --> 0:02:15.613 the weather in the sense that it was a bit 0:02:15.693 --> 0:02:18.693 wet early on and they were put in so they 0:02:18.733 --> 0:02:23.013 had to cope with that. Then they had to suppress 0:02:23.493 --> 0:02:26.733 the bangladeshings who were batting perhaps at the best time 0:02:26.773 --> 0:02:32.413 in the game, and so they really prevented them getting 0:02:32.453 --> 0:02:36.493 a big lead, which was very important, bouncing a bit 0:02:36.533 --> 0:02:39.893 of seam in the first couple of days, and then 0:02:40.293 --> 0:02:44.693 obviously spin coming into play, but spin only one wicket 0:02:45.453 --> 0:02:47.133 in the first two innings of the match. 0:02:47.813 --> 0:02:50.973 Yeah, interesting there, and we'll talk about that in just 0:02:51.733 --> 0:02:56.093 a tackle. So, because you know, looking back at that game, 0:02:56.653 --> 0:02:59.293 runs were hard to come by. Nick Kelly showed the 0:02:59.373 --> 0:03:02.293 value of his experience and scoring what could have been 0:03:02.293 --> 0:03:06.013 the match when innings before Addie Ashock produced the individual 0:03:06.053 --> 0:03:08.693 bowling highlight of a match with his third i Wick 0:03:08.893 --> 0:03:13.333 Hall in limited first class career, and that's the spin 0:03:13.413 --> 0:03:16.093 element that Jerry was talking about perhaps in the early 0:03:16.133 --> 0:03:19.893 part of the match. Nick Kelly is the co captain 0:03:19.893 --> 0:03:23.293 along with Joe Carter. They've both got experience. Carter went 0:03:23.333 --> 0:03:26.133 to India with the Last Day team they're now in 0:03:26.253 --> 0:03:30.093 Deaca and Nick Kelly was able to join on the 0:03:30.093 --> 0:03:33.133 front foot and Nick, it must have been satisfying to 0:03:33.373 --> 0:03:34.973 record that one once. 0:03:35.133 --> 0:03:38.933 Yeah, it was was unbelievably satisfying. You know, we started 0:03:38.933 --> 0:03:42.773 with the three one dayers and I know the series 0:03:42.853 --> 0:03:45.133 ended two one, but I think if you asked the 0:03:45.173 --> 0:03:48.053 boys we we would probably say we were pretty outplayed 0:03:48.893 --> 0:03:49.773 in their conditions. 0:03:49.813 --> 0:03:51.533 So to bounce back. 0:03:52.853 --> 0:03:55.413 Over four days and and sit back at the end 0:03:55.453 --> 0:03:58.493 of that game was unbelievably rewarding. So you know, the 0:03:58.573 --> 0:04:01.413 guys have been over here learning quite a bit. You know, 0:04:01.453 --> 0:04:03.733 it's a reasonably short to us, so you know we 0:04:03.813 --> 0:04:05.733 sort of arrived and had two days training and then 0:04:05.733 --> 0:04:08.533 went straight into it. So you know, there's a lot 0:04:08.533 --> 0:04:10.693 of guys out here have never been to the subcontinent before, 0:04:10.733 --> 0:04:13.093 so they've been trying to learn on their feet pretty quickly. 0:04:13.133 --> 0:04:15.613 But like I said, you know, getting that win was 0:04:15.613 --> 0:04:16.413 pretty satisfying. 0:04:16.853 --> 0:04:20.813 There's obviously lessons are plenty, but firstly the fact that 0:04:20.853 --> 0:04:23.053 you were able to win a four day game. That 0:04:23.333 --> 0:04:25.893 was a bit of a challenge because the weather conditions 0:04:25.933 --> 0:04:31.133 didn't play a major part and they are a very 0:04:31.133 --> 0:04:34.333 strong opposition in terms of in their own country, aren't. 0:04:34.093 --> 0:04:35.213 They yea one hundred percent. 0:04:36.213 --> 0:04:38.693 You know, we saw a stat after the game that 0:04:38.893 --> 0:04:41.453 I think they've got They had I think eighty nine 0:04:41.573 --> 0:04:46.133 test caps between them and we had zero. So you know, 0:04:46.373 --> 0:04:49.253 when we heard that, it was even cooler feeling. 0:04:50.173 --> 0:04:50.773 Like you said, the. 0:04:50.693 --> 0:04:53.533 Weather played a little bit of a part. You know, 0:04:53.573 --> 0:04:55.453 there was lights, there was lights on the ground, which 0:04:55.493 --> 0:04:57.733 was cool, but you know with the red ball that 0:04:57.813 --> 0:05:00.373 obviously can't get too dark, so you know, we were 0:05:00.413 --> 0:05:03.813 losing over most days. And then just with the climate there, 0:05:03.893 --> 0:05:09.333 like these massive thunderstorms just coming quickly and you know 0:05:09.373 --> 0:05:11.253 they hang around for a bit that the drainage of 0:05:11.293 --> 0:05:14.493 the ground is unbelievable, so you know, the ground a 0:05:14.533 --> 0:05:17.253 couple of days with underwater and then within half an 0:05:17.293 --> 0:05:20.533 hour forty five minutes, you know, with the numerous groundsmen 0:05:20.573 --> 0:05:22.933 and the drainage systems, we were able to get back on. 0:05:23.013 --> 0:05:23.733 So that was awesome. 0:05:24.813 --> 0:05:26.533 And then yeah, when the sun did come out, it 0:05:26.573 --> 0:05:30.093 was it was pretty challenging, it was pretty hot, so yeah, 0:05:30.253 --> 0:05:30.533 it was. 0:05:30.613 --> 0:05:32.733 It was just an awesome experience for the group. 0:05:32.853 --> 0:05:35.693 You were put in. So that helped it in terms 0:05:35.733 --> 0:05:40.373 of I suppose the ability to be bowling last. And 0:05:41.973 --> 0:05:43.933 it seemed from what we were able to see here 0:05:43.973 --> 0:05:45.253 and we're ucky enough to be able to see it 0:05:45.293 --> 0:05:50.213 on the internet, that the spin bowlers are enjoying the 0:05:50.333 --> 0:05:53.173 conditions and it's a great development phase for them, isn't it. 0:05:53.573 --> 0:05:57.773 Yeah, definitely, you know they you know, bowling spin in 0:05:57.773 --> 0:05:59.693 New Zealand as a tough art. 0:05:59.733 --> 0:06:01.733 You know, there's not a lot on offer. 0:06:02.373 --> 0:06:03.973 You know, most of the time you have to use 0:06:04.013 --> 0:06:06.813 the drift store or the bounce to get your wickets. 0:06:06.853 --> 0:06:10.493 But over here, you know, as the days went on 0:06:10.573 --> 0:06:13.493 in the game, more so day three and four, you know, 0:06:13.493 --> 0:06:15.933 the pitcher started to dry out just with that, with 0:06:16.093 --> 0:06:19.813 that heat, and you know they were pretty frustrated up 0:06:19.893 --> 0:06:20.613 their first innings. 0:06:20.613 --> 0:06:22.093 You know, they didn't probably get the reward that. 0:06:22.053 --> 0:06:25.853 They would have liked, but they were unbelievably accurate and 0:06:25.893 --> 0:06:27.933 so you know, just keep reminding the boys that you 0:06:27.973 --> 0:06:30.573 know you will get your rewards just hanging there. And 0:06:30.613 --> 0:06:34.173 then on day four, I'm not sure if you're watching, 0:06:34.213 --> 0:06:35.613 but you know, it all happened pretty quickly. 0:06:35.933 --> 0:06:39.133 Eddie Eshock got those three wickets in and over and you. 0:06:39.053 --> 0:06:40.893 Know it was getting pretty dark there at one stage, 0:06:40.973 --> 0:06:43.213 so you know we didn't think, you know, we might 0:06:43.213 --> 0:06:44.213 not be able to get over the line. 0:06:44.253 --> 0:06:47.293 But yeah, the spinners were just unbelievable in this game. 0:06:48.613 --> 0:06:51.693 Yeah, it managed to see the final day and I 0:06:51.693 --> 0:06:54.413 guess that's what spinners are therefore, to be able to 0:06:54.453 --> 0:06:57.653 clean up a game in the fourth innings after the 0:06:57.733 --> 0:07:00.453 seamers or others have done the job early on. And 0:07:00.813 --> 0:07:05.973 that was an absolutely remarkable finish and just shows the 0:07:06.093 --> 0:07:08.493 value of a leg spinner in any side, doesn't. 0:07:09.733 --> 0:07:11.013 Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. 0:07:12.413 --> 0:07:15.533 Yeah obviously played for Wellington and we've got Peter young husband, 0:07:15.613 --> 0:07:17.853 and you know, it's such a blessing having someone who 0:07:17.853 --> 0:07:20.453 can turn the ball both ways, especially when you get 0:07:20.453 --> 0:07:24.533 down to sort of seven eight nineteen eleven. You know, 0:07:25.733 --> 0:07:28.533 the way they played spin over here was unbelievably impressive. 0:07:28.573 --> 0:07:31.493 And you know, when you're out out in the field 0:07:31.573 --> 0:07:35.133 roaming around, it can sometimes seem like that they're so 0:07:35.293 --> 0:07:38.333 on top, just with the way that they manipulate strike 0:07:38.453 --> 0:07:39.013 and you know. 0:07:39.053 --> 0:07:41.493 Use their sweep shots and use the crease. 0:07:41.213 --> 0:07:43.933 And you know, the spinners were getting a little bit 0:07:43.973 --> 0:07:46.613 frustrated at times. But then, like you said, you know, 0:07:46.653 --> 0:07:48.573 having a lade spinner who can spin the ball both ways, 0:07:48.613 --> 0:07:50.533 and you know, you just you just had to open 0:07:50.613 --> 0:07:52.213 up one end and get a new batsman out there, 0:07:52.213 --> 0:07:53.773 and then you just see how well they actually are 0:07:53.813 --> 0:07:56.293 bowling and how much it is turning. And then you know, 0:07:56.333 --> 0:07:58.053 we were just lucky enough to run through them just 0:07:58.053 --> 0:07:59.933 before we were called off for the light. So yeah, 0:07:59.933 --> 0:08:00.813 it was a pretty cool day. 0:08:02.213 --> 0:08:04.573 Yeah, it's always had for a new batchman coming to 0:08:04.573 --> 0:08:08.973 the crease too, to adjust himself to turn eye. I 0:08:09.093 --> 0:08:11.613 sense that there's not a huge amount of turn, but 0:08:11.893 --> 0:08:12.973 just enough for the bowlers. 0:08:14.573 --> 0:08:18.453 Yeah, we're actually quite quite surprised the first couple of days. 0:08:18.693 --> 0:08:20.573 Wait for the first two innings actly, there was only 0:08:20.653 --> 0:08:24.093 one wicket to spin for the first two innings. You know, 0:08:24.133 --> 0:08:25.773 the scene is there was actually probably a little bit 0:08:25.773 --> 0:08:28.133 more balance and scene movement than we would have thought. 0:08:28.813 --> 0:08:31.333 Their scene has bold unbelievably well in that first innings, 0:08:31.333 --> 0:08:34.573 we thought, but yeah, I think it's just building up 0:08:34.573 --> 0:08:36.933 those remps, making sure you're staying nice and patient, making 0:08:36.933 --> 0:08:40.453 sure you're staying you know, really nice and accurate. And 0:08:40.533 --> 0:08:43.013 then I found when I was out there batting, it was, 0:08:43.133 --> 0:08:45.413 you know, it wasn't turning that much. And then within 0:08:45.453 --> 0:08:47.853 a two or three over period, just with the way 0:08:47.893 --> 0:08:49.573 that the how hot the sun is and it was 0:08:49.653 --> 0:08:51.293 drying out the wicket and all of a sudden just 0:08:51.293 --> 0:08:52.293 started doing quite a bit. 0:08:52.373 --> 0:08:55.173 And it was probably halfway through. 0:08:54.933 --> 0:08:57.173 That second session on day three where you know, it 0:08:57.173 --> 0:08:59.053 probably started to turn a little bit more. And then 0:08:59.373 --> 0:09:01.093 by the time we got into day four it was 0:09:01.253 --> 0:09:03.933 you know, there was quite a consider considerable amount of turns. 0:09:04.013 --> 0:09:07.573 So you know, it's good learnings for everyone here. 0:09:07.653 --> 0:09:10.093 You know, like I said before, there's a lot of 0:09:10.093 --> 0:09:11.813 guys here on their first tour, so it'd be nice 0:09:11.853 --> 0:09:14.973 to bank those experiences for the next time we come over. 0:09:15.013 --> 0:09:18.173 And then yeah, we've got the Ducker Ducker game which 0:09:18.173 --> 0:09:20.853 starts tomorrow, and we had a look at that work 0:09:20.853 --> 0:09:23.493 at yesterday and you know looks completely different, a lot 0:09:23.693 --> 0:09:26.733 darker soil. I think it might turn a little bit 0:09:26.773 --> 0:09:30.773 more from from days one and two. So just you know, 0:09:30.893 --> 0:09:32.893 another cool challenge for the boys to experience. 0:09:34.333 --> 0:09:37.333 You talk about challenges, so you're any society one hundred 0:09:37.333 --> 0:09:41.093 and twenty two. Big scores have not been the norm, 0:09:41.173 --> 0:09:43.373 have they? The Bangadesha. I'd have had a couple of 0:09:43.373 --> 0:09:47.093 century makers, But it's been a real challenge for the 0:09:47.133 --> 0:09:49.373 batsman in the conditions over there, hasn't it. 0:09:50.693 --> 0:09:53.413 Yeah, Yeah, it's it's probably been a mixture of you know, 0:09:53.533 --> 0:09:57.013 some pretty good bowling mixed with I think it's the 0:09:57.053 --> 0:10:00.053 heat as well. Like to be honest, that was probably 0:10:00.053 --> 0:10:02.093 the hardest hardest day of cracket I've ever had out 0:10:02.093 --> 0:10:04.933 there in our day three is during that century, you know, 0:10:05.013 --> 0:10:08.253 unbelievably rewarding. But if I think back to the physical 0:10:08.453 --> 0:10:10.213 told that you know I was under you know, we 0:10:10.253 --> 0:10:11.933 had a we had Joe card of the Skipper go 0:10:12.013 --> 0:10:15.333 off with Pete stroke and you know, just even watching 0:10:15.373 --> 0:10:17.933 their seamers, you know, the spells were short and sharp, 0:10:18.013 --> 0:10:20.413 but you know at the end of the spells that 0:10:20.493 --> 0:10:22.733 were they were going off as they were pretty cooked. 0:10:22.773 --> 0:10:27.373 And yeah, I think you know, the wickets have been 0:10:27.453 --> 0:10:30.693 challenging for us just in terms of getting used to 0:10:30.733 --> 0:10:33.533 the bounce, and you know, the spin hasn't been massive, 0:10:33.613 --> 0:10:35.293 but you know it's just different to what we're used 0:10:35.333 --> 0:10:39.013 to back home. So yeah, I guess, you know, moving 0:10:39.053 --> 0:10:40.733 into this last game, you know the few o the 0:10:40.773 --> 0:10:43.653 boys have looked at, you know, scorecards from previous Ducker tests, 0:10:43.693 --> 0:10:47.133 and like you said, even even the tests and and 0:10:47.213 --> 0:10:50.653 Dhaka have been pretty low scoring, so you know, there 0:10:50.733 --> 0:10:52.413 might not be too many centuries in this game. 0:10:52.453 --> 0:10:54.093 It might be you know, how how do we get 0:10:54.133 --> 0:10:54.533 out there. 0:10:54.413 --> 0:10:57.053 And score as quickly as possible before you know boll 0:10:57.093 --> 0:10:57.773 has your name on it. 0:10:59.653 --> 0:11:01.733 Yeah, in terms of the betting, if you say, they 0:11:01.773 --> 0:11:06.173 haven't been consistent high scores, but nice cameos from various 0:11:06.173 --> 0:11:10.133 individuals within the betting lineup, which helps to either keep 0:11:10.173 --> 0:11:14.653 the scoreboard close or give you a slight advantage. Was 0:11:14.693 --> 0:11:15.533 the bat. 0:11:16.733 --> 0:11:20.573 Yeah, Yeah, it's you know, it's when you look back 0:11:20.573 --> 0:11:22.813 on a game, you know, there's there's there's always a 0:11:22.813 --> 0:11:26.893 little contributions that helped towards a win, and you know, 0:11:26.933 --> 0:11:29.733 when guys are getting in and getting twenty thirties and forties. 0:11:29.733 --> 0:11:31.573 You know, they come off, they're pretty frustrated with how 0:11:31.573 --> 0:11:35.773 they've gone, you know, how they've got out, and but 0:11:35.853 --> 0:11:38.493 then you know, you think back to you know, just 0:11:38.533 --> 0:11:41.053 giving guys cutting themselves a little bit of slack and going, 0:11:41.093 --> 0:11:44.333 look like this is the first time for or you know, 0:11:44.413 --> 0:11:48.773 big eighties or hundreds and those small contributions, especially in 0:11:48.813 --> 0:11:50.813 a low scoring game where I don't think anyone in 0:11:50.813 --> 0:11:53.693 the in the game scored over three hundred millies. You know, 0:11:53.773 --> 0:11:55.373 you need guys to be able to chip in and 0:11:55.413 --> 0:11:58.693 score those twenties, thirties and forties, so you know, when 0:11:58.733 --> 0:12:00.613 one or two other guys do stand up and get 0:12:00.613 --> 0:12:02.733 those bigger scores, you can you can put a competitive 0:12:02.773 --> 0:12:04.333 total on the board, which is what we're able to do. 0:12:04.373 --> 0:12:05.253 I thought, pretty well. 0:12:05.973 --> 0:12:08.773 You be happy, I suppose even though it looks like 0:12:08.773 --> 0:12:10.933 a very good stadium, just to get away and play 0:12:11.053 --> 0:12:14.573 at a different stadium. You probably almost checked them to 0:12:15.053 --> 0:12:18.053 live at the ground in that place, sevn't you. 0:12:19.213 --> 0:12:21.053 Yeah, yeah, we're actually only there. 0:12:21.933 --> 0:12:23.573 It might have been two two and a half weeks, 0:12:23.573 --> 0:12:25.293 but it felt a lot longer than that. 0:12:26.133 --> 0:12:27.493 Just pretty much the hotel on the. 0:12:27.413 --> 0:12:29.813 Ground that we're allowed to go to so Yeah, I 0:12:29.893 --> 0:12:32.573 think I think a few of the boys, especially after that, 0:12:32.653 --> 0:12:34.293 when we're pretty happy to get on the plane and 0:12:34.493 --> 0:12:37.093 get to Ducker and just you. 0:12:37.053 --> 0:12:39.133 Know, get in a new hotel, new environment. 0:12:40.373 --> 0:12:42.813 Ducker obviously a lot more going on than there's like 0:12:42.813 --> 0:12:45.173 twenty twenty five million people here. So even just just 0:12:45.293 --> 0:12:48.173 added challenge and travel to the ground, you know, it 0:12:48.213 --> 0:12:52.613 takes a lot longer, you know, keep more people, which 0:12:52.653 --> 0:12:55.213 is awesome. But yeah, like you said, we're pretty happy 0:12:55.213 --> 0:12:58.813 to get out of so Let The hospitality from Banglaish 0:12:58.853 --> 0:13:02.093 cricket has been unbelievable, but yeah, you know, it's always 0:13:02.173 --> 0:13:04.093 nice to mix it up, especially after a win. 0:13:04.613 --> 0:13:08.253 You come away with good experiences from this tour and 0:13:08.413 --> 0:13:11.093 every player in some form or other has been able 0:13:11.133 --> 0:13:13.933 to contribute. And you've got to bear in mind that 0:13:14.893 --> 0:13:17.333 the majority of the team have been the highly performed 0:13:17.333 --> 0:13:20.453 players in our domestic competition, haven't they. I mean, you 0:13:20.573 --> 0:13:24.733 and Moa Bass and anothers have made your international appearances. 0:13:25.013 --> 0:13:28.293 But you know, it's it's backing up a season of 0:13:28.413 --> 0:13:31.493 pretty good performances by everybody on the side, isn't it. 0:13:31.853 --> 0:13:34.693 Yeah, Yeah, there's you know, you look through the list 0:13:34.693 --> 0:13:36.613 of fifteen guys that are here, and you know, they 0:13:36.693 --> 0:13:37.573 all demand. 0:13:37.213 --> 0:13:38.813 Their spot in the team. 0:13:39.613 --> 0:13:41.573 And you know, you speak to some guys and you 0:13:41.613 --> 0:13:43.613 know they're pretty happy with how they too have gone. 0:13:43.453 --> 0:13:45.133 To has gone, and then you speak. 0:13:44.973 --> 0:13:48.053 To others and you know they're pretty disappointed. But I 0:13:48.093 --> 0:13:50.973 think that's probably the role for the older guys in 0:13:50.973 --> 0:13:54.613 the group, like myself and Joe, and just reminding them that, 0:13:54.813 --> 0:13:57.173 you know, just because you've had a tough to it 0:13:57.173 --> 0:13:59.173 doesn't make you any worse of a player or any 0:13:59.373 --> 0:14:01.853 you know, it doesn't you know, degrade from the season 0:14:01.853 --> 0:14:04.293 that you had in New Zealand. You know, like these 0:14:04.293 --> 0:14:08.653 are all experiences. We're all here learning and think that's 0:14:08.653 --> 0:14:10.693 just part of cricket, you know, like we're all looking 0:14:10.733 --> 0:14:13.573 to get better. And I think part of that is 0:14:13.653 --> 0:14:16.933 exposing yourself to foreign conditions. And I know the guys 0:14:16.933 --> 0:14:18.893 over here that have struggled, the next time they come 0:14:18.933 --> 0:14:20.973 to the subcontinent they'll be so much better for it. 0:14:22.173 --> 0:14:24.173 But yeah, it's just it's an awesome. 0:14:23.933 --> 0:14:28.333 Challenge, I guess, you know, whether a twenty year old 0:14:28.413 --> 0:14:32.293 or like myself and you know, thirty thirty one, just 0:14:32.413 --> 0:14:37.773 learning learning how to you know, perform outside of New Zealand. 0:14:38.973 --> 0:14:41.533 Yeah, we're an experienced player. You've had a very good 0:14:41.533 --> 0:14:47.093 season for Wellington, an award winner in the Firebirds camp. 0:14:47.853 --> 0:14:52.653 How are you assessing your performance throughout the season leading 0:14:52.733 --> 0:14:55.733 up into this and the century you got in silet? 0:14:57.773 --> 0:15:01.173 Yeah, it was. It was an unbelievable season for me. 0:15:02.053 --> 0:15:06.733 Statistically probably it was my best season, so it was. Yeah, 0:15:06.733 --> 0:15:09.093 it was awesome obviously to get the reward at the 0:15:09.173 --> 0:15:11.333 end of that season to play for the black Caps. 0:15:12.133 --> 0:15:13.853 You know, it was a will wind experience for me. 0:15:14.813 --> 0:15:16.293 Looking back on it, you know, it alway would have 0:15:16.293 --> 0:15:18.813 been nice to score a few more runs, but I 0:15:18.813 --> 0:15:19.373 guess as you. 0:15:19.293 --> 0:15:20.893 Get older, you kind of got to. 0:15:22.693 --> 0:15:26.693 Just know that the you know, those experiences are invaluable 0:15:26.693 --> 0:15:28.293 and you know it'll be one of the highlights of 0:15:28.333 --> 0:15:30.733 my career and hopefully it's not the last time I 0:15:30.853 --> 0:15:33.133 get to put on the black Caps jersey. And then, 0:15:33.933 --> 0:15:37.453 you know, after after reflecting on the season and the 0:15:37.453 --> 0:15:39.613 black Caps experience for a couple of weeks or so, 0:15:39.773 --> 0:15:41.453 it was just awesome to get straight back into it 0:15:41.453 --> 0:15:44.533 and come over to Bangladesh and like I said before, 0:15:44.573 --> 0:15:45.973 you know, it was a pretty tough start for some 0:15:46.013 --> 0:15:49.453 of us. I guess that's the challenge of touring and 0:15:49.613 --> 0:15:51.773 you just got to stay locked in and keep training hard. 0:15:51.853 --> 0:15:53.653 And you know. 0:15:53.773 --> 0:15:56.373 It was it was Like I said before, it was 0:15:56.373 --> 0:15:58.493 probably one of the most rewarding endings I've ever had 0:15:58.493 --> 0:16:04.213 over here after after you know, the lead up to it. 0:16:02.893 --> 0:16:05.413 And in terms of wearing the black cap shit again. 0:16:05.413 --> 0:16:07.013 I suppose all the guys are also conscious of the 0:16:07.173 --> 0:16:10.133 fact that the game or two coming up of South 0:16:10.173 --> 0:16:11.333 Africa isn't there. 0:16:12.533 --> 0:16:13.053 Yep, yep. 0:16:13.093 --> 0:16:16.093 So there's another there's another New Zealand a tour of 0:16:16.173 --> 0:16:18.413 South Africa. I think that goes from August to September, 0:16:18.453 --> 0:16:23.293 and then there's a Zimbabwe tour in July August for 0:16:23.373 --> 0:16:25.493 the for the Test team with a couple of Tea 0:16:25.533 --> 0:16:28.693 twenties chucked in there, so you know, it'll be interesting 0:16:28.693 --> 0:16:32.213 to see what that side looks like. They've obviously got 0:16:32.253 --> 0:16:35.653 have got the head coach roll up for Grams as well, 0:16:35.733 --> 0:16:37.813 so I guess once they name that they'll get a 0:16:37.813 --> 0:16:40.093 bit of clarity around you know, what side they want 0:16:40.133 --> 0:16:43.933 to take there. And yeah, obviously you know there's a 0:16:43.933 --> 0:16:46.173 lot of guys over here put up their hands with 0:16:46.253 --> 0:16:48.973 some pretty nice performances, So yeah, it'll be it'll be 0:16:48.973 --> 0:16:50.293 exciting a couple of months ahead. 0:16:51.453 --> 0:16:53.653 Yeah, well, pleanny to play for all the best. Hope 0:16:53.813 --> 0:16:58.293 the the success continues through the final game in Bangadesh 0:16:58.293 --> 0:17:01.333 and then the majority of the players on hand for 0:17:01.573 --> 0:17:05.413 the African Tour. Thanks for your time, Nick. 0:17:06.693 --> 0:17:10.493 Here's what thanks for having met Kelly with us on 0:17:10.533 --> 0:17:11.853 the front foot and Jarry. 0:17:11.893 --> 0:17:15.893 It's good to hear cricketers talking honestly about how they 0:17:15.933 --> 0:17:19.533 feel about what they're facing over there. Often you hear 0:17:19.573 --> 0:17:22.173 them trying to just deflect and say, you know, that's 0:17:22.213 --> 0:17:24.493 the way it was, that dada dada dada party line. 0:17:24.693 --> 0:17:27.413 But he talked about the things that he found difficult 0:17:28.253 --> 0:17:31.933 the other players have found different, the real challenges. And 0:17:31.973 --> 0:17:35.453 again it's not so much about the actual result. It's 0:17:35.493 --> 0:17:37.613 how they get to the result, isn't it and what 0:17:37.693 --> 0:17:39.733 they do along the way because they're not picking the 0:17:39.773 --> 0:17:42.653 same team on each game. So you know, it was 0:17:43.093 --> 0:17:45.613 a good reflection and I think that highlights the value 0:17:45.653 --> 0:17:46.013 of the win. 0:17:46.493 --> 0:17:51.493 I enjoyed listening to it once. He's quite an experienced player, 0:17:51.533 --> 0:17:53.093 isn't he, Nick Kelly? 0:17:54.373 --> 0:17:54.813 What is he? 0:17:54.933 --> 0:18:01.093 Nearly thirty two, nearly born Dare we say it in Australia. 0:18:01.773 --> 0:18:06.973 Then he came right sixty sixty one first class matches, 0:18:08.933 --> 0:18:14.573 he's averaging thirty nine. He's also played, I think, in 0:18:14.613 --> 0:18:18.533 the Caribbean League, hasn't He played for sort of Saint 0:18:18.573 --> 0:18:24.053 Kitts Nevis that side. So an experienced first class player 0:18:24.853 --> 0:18:29.173 also played franchise, and so he's had plenty of time 0:18:29.293 --> 0:18:35.453 to experience some disappointments and enjoy some success as well. 0:18:35.573 --> 0:18:38.253 And there's that feeling you can have as he talks. 0:18:38.573 --> 0:18:43.253 He's more reflective, I think. And it hasn't been all 0:18:43.293 --> 0:18:47.453 success for him on this tour, not fourteen nineteen twenty 0:18:47.893 --> 0:18:50.613 and then that last innings in the second and one 0:18:50.693 --> 0:18:54.093 hundred and twenty two. So and that made a difference 0:18:54.133 --> 0:18:56.253 in the game really in terms of the runs, didn't it. 0:18:57.213 --> 0:19:01.293 I enjoyed the way they hung in the game. I 0:19:01.453 --> 0:19:05.013 enjoyed it when he told me how little experienced the 0:19:05.013 --> 0:19:08.653 New Zealand ay side had zero caps and ten fists 0:19:09.413 --> 0:19:13.533 and Bangladesh had eighty nine. I think that's quite telling, 0:19:13.653 --> 0:19:17.733 isn't it. One of those difficult things that you spoke 0:19:17.773 --> 0:19:21.253 about in touring Bangladesh. Not just the heat he mentioned that, 0:19:22.093 --> 0:19:26.293 not just the thunderstorms. He mentioned that, not just staying 0:19:26.333 --> 0:19:28.653 in your hotel for a long periods of time. He 0:19:28.733 --> 0:19:33.813 mentioned that, and so it's something that is different for 0:19:33.893 --> 0:19:40.293 the New Zealand perspective. And I thought the parts that 0:19:40.373 --> 0:19:44.373 he spoke about the spin in the first innings that 0:19:44.453 --> 0:19:47.453 players getting frustrated the spinners. 0:19:48.333 --> 0:19:49.333 And that's a good thing. 0:19:49.773 --> 0:19:53.053 You can talk until you're red in the face about 0:19:53.093 --> 0:19:59.573 accuracy and consistency, but until the bowlers have actually felt it, 0:19:59.573 --> 0:20:01.853 it's quite difficult to get through to them. 0:20:01.893 --> 0:20:03.373 It's just a couple of words. 0:20:04.293 --> 0:20:09.573 I enjoyed the fact that he noticed that their players, 0:20:09.653 --> 0:20:13.373 the Bangladesk players say, play spin so well, they. 0:20:13.213 --> 0:20:14.133 Look so comfortable. 0:20:16.293 --> 0:20:21.413 No, absolutely, and you know, manipulating the ball and using 0:20:21.453 --> 0:20:23.613 the increase and playing the sweep and so on. 0:20:23.893 --> 0:20:26.293 But it brings up an important point, doesn't it. 0:20:26.413 --> 0:20:30.053 You learn as well, not just from batting or from 0:20:30.053 --> 0:20:34.093 bowling or fielding. You learn from watching the other side play, 0:20:34.533 --> 0:20:38.373 and particularly the locals play, who have been in those 0:20:38.413 --> 0:20:39.933 conditions all their lives. 0:20:40.613 --> 0:20:42.373