1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,973 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Sat B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:15,173 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on 3 00:00:15,333 --> 00:00:16,133 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. 4 00:00:21,333 --> 00:00:30,813 Speaker 2: Trick it is out, the test is Overn't smokes a beauty. 5 00:00:30,853 --> 00:00:34,093 Speaker 2: It is out here he goes this delivery has. 6 00:00:34,573 --> 00:00:35,733 Speaker 3: Uses revolved. 7 00:00:37,693 --> 00:00:41,093 Speaker 1: On the front foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Cody, 8 00:00:41,413 --> 00:00:45,293 Speaker 1: powered by News Talk, said B at iHeart Radio. 9 00:00:46,893 --> 00:00:50,053 Speaker 2: Hello, We're back on the front foot this week. We 10 00:00:50,173 --> 00:00:55,213 Speaker 2: celebrate the eighteen success in Bangladesh against the Elements England 11 00:00:55,373 --> 00:00:57,933 Speaker 2: that take a new attitude and a new team into 12 00:00:57,973 --> 00:01:00,733 Speaker 2: the Zimbabwe Test. And the West Indies name a new 13 00:01:00,813 --> 00:01:05,773 Speaker 2: Test captain after an exhaustive program back to some normality 14 00:01:05,933 --> 00:01:09,013 Speaker 2: in the cricket ward. It's hard to believe the IPL 15 00:01:09,133 --> 00:01:11,573 Speaker 2: still game. I thought they were going to finish that off. 16 00:01:12,133 --> 00:01:16,733 Speaker 2: The PSL has got itself back on track and there 17 00:01:16,773 --> 00:01:21,533 Speaker 2: minus some of their original signings from abscondent when hostilities 18 00:01:21,533 --> 00:01:25,333 Speaker 2: broke out and a Test match duet Lord's goodness, gracious 19 00:01:25,373 --> 00:01:29,293 Speaker 2: me a Test match. But our team in Bangladesh in 20 00:01:29,533 --> 00:01:33,853 Speaker 2: Select now into their final game in Dhaka. A good 21 00:01:33,933 --> 00:01:37,813 Speaker 2: win in Select, Jeremy Cooney, but I'm encouraged by that effort, 22 00:01:37,813 --> 00:01:41,813 Speaker 2: because we all know Bangladesh is not an easy place 23 00:01:41,853 --> 00:01:44,453 Speaker 2: to tour anywhere on the subcondinent. It's not an easy 24 00:01:44,493 --> 00:01:45,333 Speaker 2: place to tour. 25 00:01:45,093 --> 00:01:46,093 Speaker 3: It isn't. 26 00:01:46,413 --> 00:01:49,173 Speaker 4: You're quite right, very different from what the players are 27 00:01:49,213 --> 00:01:51,933 Speaker 4: accustomed to. I thought when you said we're going back 28 00:01:51,973 --> 00:01:54,613 Speaker 4: to some normality, you might say, oh, a four day games, 29 00:01:55,653 --> 00:01:59,213 Speaker 4: and I thought you might be referring to the A side. 30 00:01:59,453 --> 00:02:04,333 Speaker 3: But yeah, and a test match. Look, I enjoyed. 31 00:02:05,493 --> 00:02:07,813 Speaker 4: I enjoyed watching a bit of that game. I didn't 32 00:02:07,813 --> 00:02:13,493 Speaker 4: see a lot, but clearly they got the worst of 33 00:02:13,533 --> 00:02:15,613 Speaker 4: the weather in the sense that it was a bit 34 00:02:15,693 --> 00:02:18,693 Speaker 4: wet early on and they were put in so they 35 00:02:18,733 --> 00:02:23,013 Speaker 4: had to cope with that. Then they had to suppress 36 00:02:23,493 --> 00:02:26,733 Speaker 4: the bangladeshings who were batting perhaps at the best time 37 00:02:26,773 --> 00:02:32,413 Speaker 4: in the game, and so they really prevented them getting 38 00:02:32,453 --> 00:02:36,493 Speaker 4: a big lead, which was very important, bouncing a bit 39 00:02:36,533 --> 00:02:39,893 Speaker 4: of seam in the first couple of days, and then 40 00:02:40,293 --> 00:02:44,693 Speaker 4: obviously spin coming into play, but spin only one wicket 41 00:02:45,453 --> 00:02:47,133 Speaker 4: in the first two innings of the match. 42 00:02:47,813 --> 00:02:50,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting there, and we'll talk about that in just 43 00:02:51,733 --> 00:02:56,093 Speaker 2: a tackle. So, because you know, looking back at that game, 44 00:02:56,653 --> 00:02:59,293 Speaker 2: runs were hard to come by. Nick Kelly showed the 45 00:02:59,373 --> 00:03:02,293 Speaker 2: value of his experience and scoring what could have been 46 00:03:02,293 --> 00:03:06,013 Speaker 2: the match when innings before Addie Ashock produced the individual 47 00:03:06,053 --> 00:03:08,693 Speaker 2: bowling highlight of a match with his third i Wick 48 00:03:08,893 --> 00:03:13,333 Speaker 2: Hall in limited first class career, and that's the spin 49 00:03:13,413 --> 00:03:16,093 Speaker 2: element that Jerry was talking about perhaps in the early 50 00:03:16,133 --> 00:03:19,893 Speaker 2: part of the match. Nick Kelly is the co captain 51 00:03:19,893 --> 00:03:23,293 Speaker 2: along with Joe Carter. They've both got experience. Carter went 52 00:03:23,333 --> 00:03:26,133 Speaker 2: to India with the Last Day team they're now in 53 00:03:26,253 --> 00:03:30,093 Speaker 2: Deaca and Nick Kelly was able to join on the 54 00:03:30,093 --> 00:03:33,133 Speaker 2: front foot and Nick, it must have been satisfying to 55 00:03:33,373 --> 00:03:34,973 Speaker 2: record that one once. 56 00:03:35,133 --> 00:03:38,933 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was was unbelievably satisfying. You know, we started 57 00:03:38,933 --> 00:03:42,773 Speaker 5: with the three one dayers and I know the series 58 00:03:42,853 --> 00:03:45,133 Speaker 5: ended two one, but I think if you asked the 59 00:03:45,173 --> 00:03:48,053 Speaker 5: boys we we would probably say we were pretty outplayed 60 00:03:48,893 --> 00:03:49,773 Speaker 5: in their conditions. 61 00:03:49,813 --> 00:03:51,533 Speaker 6: So to bounce back. 62 00:03:52,853 --> 00:03:55,413 Speaker 5: Over four days and and sit back at the end 63 00:03:55,453 --> 00:03:58,493 Speaker 5: of that game was unbelievably rewarding. So you know, the 64 00:03:58,573 --> 00:04:01,413 Speaker 5: guys have been over here learning quite a bit. You know, 65 00:04:01,453 --> 00:04:03,733 Speaker 5: it's a reasonably short to us, so you know we 66 00:04:03,813 --> 00:04:05,733 Speaker 5: sort of arrived and had two days training and then 67 00:04:05,733 --> 00:04:08,533 Speaker 5: went straight into it. So you know, there's a lot 68 00:04:08,533 --> 00:04:10,693 Speaker 5: of guys out here have never been to the subcontinent before, 69 00:04:10,733 --> 00:04:13,093 Speaker 5: so they've been trying to learn on their feet pretty quickly. 70 00:04:13,133 --> 00:04:15,613 Speaker 6: But like I said, you know, getting that win was 71 00:04:15,613 --> 00:04:16,413 Speaker 6: pretty satisfying. 72 00:04:16,853 --> 00:04:20,813 Speaker 2: There's obviously lessons are plenty, but firstly the fact that 73 00:04:20,853 --> 00:04:23,053 Speaker 2: you were able to win a four day game. That 74 00:04:23,333 --> 00:04:25,893 Speaker 2: was a bit of a challenge because the weather conditions 75 00:04:25,933 --> 00:04:31,133 Speaker 2: didn't play a major part and they are a very 76 00:04:31,133 --> 00:04:34,333 Speaker 2: strong opposition in terms of in their own country, aren't. 77 00:04:34,093 --> 00:04:35,213 Speaker 6: They yea one hundred percent. 78 00:04:36,213 --> 00:04:38,693 Speaker 5: You know, we saw a stat after the game that 79 00:04:38,893 --> 00:04:41,453 Speaker 5: I think they've got They had I think eighty nine 80 00:04:41,573 --> 00:04:46,133 Speaker 5: test caps between them and we had zero. So you know, 81 00:04:46,373 --> 00:04:49,253 Speaker 5: when we heard that, it was even cooler feeling. 82 00:04:50,173 --> 00:04:50,773 Speaker 6: Like you said, the. 83 00:04:50,693 --> 00:04:53,533 Speaker 5: Weather played a little bit of a part. You know, 84 00:04:53,573 --> 00:04:55,453 Speaker 5: there was lights, there was lights on the ground, which 85 00:04:55,493 --> 00:04:57,733 Speaker 5: was cool, but you know with the red ball that 86 00:04:57,813 --> 00:05:00,373 Speaker 5: obviously can't get too dark, so you know, we were 87 00:05:00,413 --> 00:05:03,813 Speaker 5: losing over most days. And then just with the climate there, 88 00:05:03,893 --> 00:05:09,333 Speaker 5: like these massive thunderstorms just coming quickly and you know 89 00:05:09,373 --> 00:05:11,253 Speaker 5: they hang around for a bit that the drainage of 90 00:05:11,293 --> 00:05:14,493 Speaker 5: the ground is unbelievable, so you know, the ground a 91 00:05:14,533 --> 00:05:17,253 Speaker 5: couple of days with underwater and then within half an 92 00:05:17,293 --> 00:05:20,533 Speaker 5: hour forty five minutes, you know, with the numerous groundsmen 93 00:05:20,573 --> 00:05:22,933 Speaker 5: and the drainage systems, we were able to get back on. 94 00:05:23,013 --> 00:05:23,733 Speaker 6: So that was awesome. 95 00:05:24,813 --> 00:05:26,533 Speaker 5: And then yeah, when the sun did come out, it 96 00:05:26,573 --> 00:05:30,093 Speaker 5: was it was pretty challenging, it was pretty hot, so yeah, 97 00:05:30,253 --> 00:05:30,533 Speaker 5: it was. 98 00:05:30,613 --> 00:05:32,733 Speaker 6: It was just an awesome experience for the group. 99 00:05:32,853 --> 00:05:35,693 Speaker 2: You were put in. So that helped it in terms 100 00:05:35,733 --> 00:05:40,373 Speaker 2: of I suppose the ability to be bowling last. And 101 00:05:41,973 --> 00:05:43,933 Speaker 2: it seemed from what we were able to see here 102 00:05:43,973 --> 00:05:45,253 Speaker 2: and we're ucky enough to be able to see it 103 00:05:45,293 --> 00:05:50,213 Speaker 2: on the internet, that the spin bowlers are enjoying the 104 00:05:50,333 --> 00:05:53,173 Speaker 2: conditions and it's a great development phase for them, isn't it. 105 00:05:53,573 --> 00:05:57,773 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, you know they you know, bowling spin in 106 00:05:57,773 --> 00:05:59,693 Speaker 5: New Zealand as a tough art. 107 00:05:59,733 --> 00:06:01,733 Speaker 6: You know, there's not a lot on offer. 108 00:06:02,373 --> 00:06:03,973 Speaker 5: You know, most of the time you have to use 109 00:06:04,013 --> 00:06:06,813 Speaker 5: the drift store or the bounce to get your wickets. 110 00:06:06,853 --> 00:06:10,493 Speaker 5: But over here, you know, as the days went on 111 00:06:10,573 --> 00:06:13,493 Speaker 5: in the game, more so day three and four, you know, 112 00:06:13,493 --> 00:06:15,933 Speaker 5: the pitcher started to dry out just with that, with 113 00:06:16,093 --> 00:06:19,813 Speaker 5: that heat, and you know they were pretty frustrated up 114 00:06:19,893 --> 00:06:20,613 Speaker 5: their first innings. 115 00:06:20,613 --> 00:06:22,093 Speaker 6: You know, they didn't probably get the reward that. 116 00:06:22,053 --> 00:06:25,853 Speaker 5: They would have liked, but they were unbelievably accurate and 117 00:06:25,893 --> 00:06:27,933 Speaker 5: so you know, just keep reminding the boys that you 118 00:06:27,973 --> 00:06:30,573 Speaker 5: know you will get your rewards just hanging there. And 119 00:06:30,613 --> 00:06:34,173 Speaker 5: then on day four, I'm not sure if you're watching, 120 00:06:34,213 --> 00:06:35,613 Speaker 5: but you know, it all happened pretty quickly. 121 00:06:35,933 --> 00:06:39,133 Speaker 6: Eddie Eshock got those three wickets in and over and you. 122 00:06:39,053 --> 00:06:40,893 Speaker 5: Know it was getting pretty dark there at one stage, 123 00:06:40,973 --> 00:06:43,213 Speaker 5: so you know we didn't think, you know, we might 124 00:06:43,213 --> 00:06:44,213 Speaker 5: not be able to get over the line. 125 00:06:44,253 --> 00:06:47,293 Speaker 6: But yeah, the spinners were just unbelievable in this game. 126 00:06:48,613 --> 00:06:51,693 Speaker 2: Yeah, it managed to see the final day and I 127 00:06:51,693 --> 00:06:54,413 Speaker 2: guess that's what spinners are therefore, to be able to 128 00:06:54,453 --> 00:06:57,653 Speaker 2: clean up a game in the fourth innings after the 129 00:06:57,733 --> 00:07:00,453 Speaker 2: seamers or others have done the job early on. And 130 00:07:00,813 --> 00:07:05,973 Speaker 2: that was an absolutely remarkable finish and just shows the 131 00:07:06,093 --> 00:07:08,493 Speaker 2: value of a leg spinner in any side, doesn't. 132 00:07:09,733 --> 00:07:11,013 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. 133 00:07:12,413 --> 00:07:15,533 Speaker 5: Yeah obviously played for Wellington and we've got Peter young husband, 134 00:07:15,613 --> 00:07:17,853 Speaker 5: and you know, it's such a blessing having someone who 135 00:07:17,853 --> 00:07:20,453 Speaker 5: can turn the ball both ways, especially when you get 136 00:07:20,453 --> 00:07:24,533 Speaker 5: down to sort of seven eight nineteen eleven. You know, 137 00:07:25,733 --> 00:07:28,533 Speaker 5: the way they played spin over here was unbelievably impressive. 138 00:07:28,573 --> 00:07:31,493 Speaker 5: And you know, when you're out out in the field 139 00:07:31,573 --> 00:07:35,133 Speaker 5: roaming around, it can sometimes seem like that they're so 140 00:07:35,293 --> 00:07:38,333 Speaker 5: on top, just with the way that they manipulate strike 141 00:07:38,453 --> 00:07:39,013 Speaker 5: and you know. 142 00:07:39,053 --> 00:07:41,493 Speaker 6: Use their sweep shots and use the crease. 143 00:07:41,213 --> 00:07:43,933 Speaker 5: And you know, the spinners were getting a little bit 144 00:07:43,973 --> 00:07:46,613 Speaker 5: frustrated at times. But then, like you said, you know, 145 00:07:46,653 --> 00:07:48,573 Speaker 5: having a lade spinner who can spin the ball both ways, 146 00:07:48,613 --> 00:07:50,533 Speaker 5: and you know, you just you just had to open 147 00:07:50,613 --> 00:07:52,213 Speaker 5: up one end and get a new batsman out there, 148 00:07:52,213 --> 00:07:53,773 Speaker 5: and then you just see how well they actually are 149 00:07:53,813 --> 00:07:56,293 Speaker 5: bowling and how much it is turning. And then you know, 150 00:07:56,333 --> 00:07:58,053 Speaker 5: we were just lucky enough to run through them just 151 00:07:58,053 --> 00:07:59,933 Speaker 5: before we were called off for the light. So yeah, 152 00:07:59,933 --> 00:08:00,813 Speaker 5: it was a pretty cool day. 153 00:08:02,213 --> 00:08:04,573 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always had for a new batchman coming to 154 00:08:04,573 --> 00:08:08,973 Speaker 2: the crease too, to adjust himself to turn eye. I 155 00:08:09,093 --> 00:08:11,613 Speaker 2: sense that there's not a huge amount of turn, but 156 00:08:11,893 --> 00:08:12,973 Speaker 2: just enough for the bowlers. 157 00:08:14,573 --> 00:08:18,453 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're actually quite quite surprised the first couple of days. 158 00:08:18,693 --> 00:08:20,573 Speaker 5: Wait for the first two innings actly, there was only 159 00:08:20,653 --> 00:08:24,093 Speaker 5: one wicket to spin for the first two innings. You know, 160 00:08:24,133 --> 00:08:25,773 Speaker 5: the scene is there was actually probably a little bit 161 00:08:25,773 --> 00:08:28,133 Speaker 5: more balance and scene movement than we would have thought. 162 00:08:28,813 --> 00:08:31,333 Speaker 5: Their scene has bold unbelievably well in that first innings, 163 00:08:31,333 --> 00:08:34,573 Speaker 5: we thought, but yeah, I think it's just building up 164 00:08:34,573 --> 00:08:36,933 Speaker 5: those remps, making sure you're staying nice and patient, making 165 00:08:36,933 --> 00:08:40,453 Speaker 5: sure you're staying you know, really nice and accurate. And 166 00:08:40,533 --> 00:08:43,013 Speaker 5: then I found when I was out there batting, it was, 167 00:08:43,133 --> 00:08:45,413 Speaker 5: you know, it wasn't turning that much. And then within 168 00:08:45,453 --> 00:08:47,853 Speaker 5: a two or three over period, just with the way 169 00:08:47,893 --> 00:08:49,573 Speaker 5: that the how hot the sun is and it was 170 00:08:49,653 --> 00:08:51,293 Speaker 5: drying out the wicket and all of a sudden just 171 00:08:51,293 --> 00:08:52,293 Speaker 5: started doing quite a bit. 172 00:08:52,373 --> 00:08:55,173 Speaker 6: And it was probably halfway through. 173 00:08:54,933 --> 00:08:57,173 Speaker 5: That second session on day three where you know, it 174 00:08:57,173 --> 00:08:59,053 Speaker 5: probably started to turn a little bit more. And then 175 00:08:59,373 --> 00:09:01,093 Speaker 5: by the time we got into day four it was 176 00:09:01,253 --> 00:09:03,933 Speaker 5: you know, there was quite a consider considerable amount of turns. 177 00:09:04,013 --> 00:09:07,573 Speaker 6: So you know, it's good learnings for everyone here. 178 00:09:07,653 --> 00:09:10,093 Speaker 5: You know, like I said before, there's a lot of 179 00:09:10,093 --> 00:09:11,813 Speaker 5: guys here on their first tour, so it'd be nice 180 00:09:11,853 --> 00:09:14,973 Speaker 5: to bank those experiences for the next time we come over. 181 00:09:15,013 --> 00:09:18,173 Speaker 5: And then yeah, we've got the Ducker Ducker game which 182 00:09:18,173 --> 00:09:20,853 Speaker 5: starts tomorrow, and we had a look at that work 183 00:09:20,853 --> 00:09:23,493 Speaker 5: at yesterday and you know looks completely different, a lot 184 00:09:23,693 --> 00:09:26,733 Speaker 5: darker soil. I think it might turn a little bit 185 00:09:26,773 --> 00:09:30,773 Speaker 5: more from from days one and two. So just you know, 186 00:09:30,893 --> 00:09:32,893 Speaker 5: another cool challenge for the boys to experience. 187 00:09:34,333 --> 00:09:37,333 Speaker 2: You talk about challenges, so you're any society one hundred 188 00:09:37,333 --> 00:09:41,093 Speaker 2: and twenty two. Big scores have not been the norm, 189 00:09:41,173 --> 00:09:43,373 Speaker 2: have they? The Bangadesha. I'd have had a couple of 190 00:09:43,373 --> 00:09:47,093 Speaker 2: century makers, But it's been a real challenge for the 191 00:09:47,133 --> 00:09:49,373 Speaker 2: batsman in the conditions over there, hasn't it. 192 00:09:50,693 --> 00:09:53,413 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's probably been a mixture of you know, 193 00:09:53,533 --> 00:09:57,013 Speaker 5: some pretty good bowling mixed with I think it's the 194 00:09:57,053 --> 00:10:00,053 Speaker 5: heat as well. Like to be honest, that was probably 195 00:10:00,053 --> 00:10:02,093 Speaker 5: the hardest hardest day of cracket I've ever had out 196 00:10:02,093 --> 00:10:04,933 Speaker 5: there in our day three is during that century, you know, 197 00:10:05,013 --> 00:10:08,253 Speaker 5: unbelievably rewarding. But if I think back to the physical 198 00:10:08,453 --> 00:10:10,213 Speaker 5: told that you know I was under you know, we 199 00:10:10,253 --> 00:10:11,933 Speaker 5: had a we had Joe card of the Skipper go 200 00:10:12,013 --> 00:10:15,333 Speaker 5: off with Pete stroke and you know, just even watching 201 00:10:15,373 --> 00:10:17,933 Speaker 5: their seamers, you know, the spells were short and sharp, 202 00:10:18,013 --> 00:10:20,413 Speaker 5: but you know at the end of the spells that 203 00:10:20,493 --> 00:10:22,733 Speaker 5: were they were going off as they were pretty cooked. 204 00:10:22,773 --> 00:10:27,373 Speaker 5: And yeah, I think you know, the wickets have been 205 00:10:27,453 --> 00:10:30,693 Speaker 5: challenging for us just in terms of getting used to 206 00:10:30,733 --> 00:10:33,533 Speaker 5: the bounce, and you know, the spin hasn't been massive, 207 00:10:33,613 --> 00:10:35,293 Speaker 5: but you know it's just different to what we're used 208 00:10:35,333 --> 00:10:39,013 Speaker 5: to back home. So yeah, I guess, you know, moving 209 00:10:39,053 --> 00:10:40,733 Speaker 5: into this last game, you know the few o the 210 00:10:40,773 --> 00:10:43,653 Speaker 5: boys have looked at, you know, scorecards from previous Ducker tests, 211 00:10:43,693 --> 00:10:47,133 Speaker 5: and like you said, even even the tests and and 212 00:10:47,213 --> 00:10:50,653 Speaker 5: Dhaka have been pretty low scoring, so you know, there 213 00:10:50,733 --> 00:10:52,413 Speaker 5: might not be too many centuries in this game. 214 00:10:52,453 --> 00:10:54,093 Speaker 6: It might be you know, how how do we get 215 00:10:54,133 --> 00:10:54,533 Speaker 6: out there. 216 00:10:54,413 --> 00:10:57,053 Speaker 5: And score as quickly as possible before you know boll 217 00:10:57,093 --> 00:10:57,773 Speaker 5: has your name on it. 218 00:10:59,653 --> 00:11:01,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of the betting, if you say, they 219 00:11:01,773 --> 00:11:06,173 Speaker 2: haven't been consistent high scores, but nice cameos from various 220 00:11:06,173 --> 00:11:10,133 Speaker 2: individuals within the betting lineup, which helps to either keep 221 00:11:10,173 --> 00:11:14,653 Speaker 2: the scoreboard close or give you a slight advantage. Was 222 00:11:14,693 --> 00:11:15,533 Speaker 2: the bat. 223 00:11:16,733 --> 00:11:20,573 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it's you know, it's when you look back 224 00:11:20,573 --> 00:11:22,813 Speaker 5: on a game, you know, there's there's there's always a 225 00:11:22,813 --> 00:11:26,893 Speaker 5: little contributions that helped towards a win, and you know, 226 00:11:26,933 --> 00:11:29,733 Speaker 5: when guys are getting in and getting twenty thirties and forties. 227 00:11:29,733 --> 00:11:31,573 Speaker 5: You know, they come off, they're pretty frustrated with how 228 00:11:31,573 --> 00:11:35,773 Speaker 5: they've gone, you know, how they've got out, and but 229 00:11:35,853 --> 00:11:38,493 Speaker 5: then you know, you think back to you know, just 230 00:11:38,533 --> 00:11:41,053 Speaker 5: giving guys cutting themselves a little bit of slack and going, 231 00:11:41,093 --> 00:11:44,333 Speaker 5: look like this is the first time for or you know, 232 00:11:44,413 --> 00:11:48,773 Speaker 5: big eighties or hundreds and those small contributions, especially in 233 00:11:48,813 --> 00:11:50,813 Speaker 5: a low scoring game where I don't think anyone in 234 00:11:50,813 --> 00:11:53,693 Speaker 5: the in the game scored over three hundred millies. You know, 235 00:11:53,773 --> 00:11:55,373 Speaker 5: you need guys to be able to chip in and 236 00:11:55,413 --> 00:11:58,693 Speaker 5: score those twenties, thirties and forties, so you know, when 237 00:11:58,733 --> 00:12:00,613 Speaker 5: one or two other guys do stand up and get 238 00:12:00,613 --> 00:12:02,733 Speaker 5: those bigger scores, you can you can put a competitive 239 00:12:02,773 --> 00:12:04,333 Speaker 5: total on the board, which is what we're able to do. 240 00:12:04,373 --> 00:12:05,253 Speaker 6: I thought, pretty well. 241 00:12:05,973 --> 00:12:08,773 Speaker 2: You be happy, I suppose even though it looks like 242 00:12:08,773 --> 00:12:10,933 Speaker 2: a very good stadium, just to get away and play 243 00:12:11,053 --> 00:12:14,573 Speaker 2: at a different stadium. You probably almost checked them to 244 00:12:15,053 --> 00:12:18,053 Speaker 2: live at the ground in that place, sevn't you. 245 00:12:19,213 --> 00:12:21,053 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we're actually only there. 246 00:12:21,933 --> 00:12:23,573 Speaker 5: It might have been two two and a half weeks, 247 00:12:23,573 --> 00:12:25,293 Speaker 5: but it felt a lot longer than that. 248 00:12:26,133 --> 00:12:27,493 Speaker 6: Just pretty much the hotel on the. 249 00:12:27,413 --> 00:12:29,813 Speaker 5: Ground that we're allowed to go to so Yeah, I 250 00:12:29,893 --> 00:12:32,573 Speaker 5: think I think a few of the boys, especially after that, 251 00:12:32,653 --> 00:12:34,293 Speaker 5: when we're pretty happy to get on the plane and 252 00:12:34,493 --> 00:12:37,093 Speaker 5: get to Ducker and just you. 253 00:12:37,053 --> 00:12:39,133 Speaker 6: Know, get in a new hotel, new environment. 254 00:12:40,373 --> 00:12:42,813 Speaker 5: Ducker obviously a lot more going on than there's like 255 00:12:42,813 --> 00:12:45,173 Speaker 5: twenty twenty five million people here. So even just just 256 00:12:45,293 --> 00:12:48,173 Speaker 5: added challenge and travel to the ground, you know, it 257 00:12:48,213 --> 00:12:52,613 Speaker 5: takes a lot longer, you know, keep more people, which 258 00:12:52,653 --> 00:12:55,213 Speaker 5: is awesome. But yeah, like you said, we're pretty happy 259 00:12:55,213 --> 00:12:58,813 Speaker 5: to get out of so Let The hospitality from Banglaish 260 00:12:58,853 --> 00:13:02,093 Speaker 5: cricket has been unbelievable, but yeah, you know, it's always 261 00:13:02,173 --> 00:13:04,093 Speaker 5: nice to mix it up, especially after a win. 262 00:13:04,613 --> 00:13:08,253 Speaker 2: You come away with good experiences from this tour and 263 00:13:08,413 --> 00:13:11,093 Speaker 2: every player in some form or other has been able 264 00:13:11,133 --> 00:13:13,933 Speaker 2: to contribute. And you've got to bear in mind that 265 00:13:14,893 --> 00:13:17,333 Speaker 2: the majority of the team have been the highly performed 266 00:13:17,333 --> 00:13:20,453 Speaker 2: players in our domestic competition, haven't they. I mean, you 267 00:13:20,573 --> 00:13:24,733 Speaker 2: and Moa Bass and anothers have made your international appearances. 268 00:13:25,013 --> 00:13:28,293 Speaker 2: But you know, it's it's backing up a season of 269 00:13:28,413 --> 00:13:31,493 Speaker 2: pretty good performances by everybody on the side, isn't it. 270 00:13:31,853 --> 00:13:34,693 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, there's you know, you look through the list 271 00:13:34,693 --> 00:13:36,613 Speaker 5: of fifteen guys that are here, and you know, they 272 00:13:36,693 --> 00:13:37,573 Speaker 5: all demand. 273 00:13:37,213 --> 00:13:38,813 Speaker 6: Their spot in the team. 274 00:13:39,613 --> 00:13:41,573 Speaker 5: And you know, you speak to some guys and you 275 00:13:41,613 --> 00:13:43,613 Speaker 5: know they're pretty happy with how they too have gone. 276 00:13:43,453 --> 00:13:45,133 Speaker 6: To has gone, and then you speak. 277 00:13:44,973 --> 00:13:48,053 Speaker 5: To others and you know they're pretty disappointed. But I 278 00:13:48,093 --> 00:13:50,973 Speaker 5: think that's probably the role for the older guys in 279 00:13:50,973 --> 00:13:54,613 Speaker 5: the group, like myself and Joe, and just reminding them that, 280 00:13:54,813 --> 00:13:57,173 Speaker 5: you know, just because you've had a tough to it 281 00:13:57,173 --> 00:13:59,173 Speaker 5: doesn't make you any worse of a player or any 282 00:13:59,373 --> 00:14:01,853 Speaker 5: you know, it doesn't you know, degrade from the season 283 00:14:01,853 --> 00:14:04,293 Speaker 5: that you had in New Zealand. You know, like these 284 00:14:04,293 --> 00:14:08,653 Speaker 5: are all experiences. We're all here learning and think that's 285 00:14:08,653 --> 00:14:10,693 Speaker 5: just part of cricket, you know, like we're all looking 286 00:14:10,733 --> 00:14:13,573 Speaker 5: to get better. And I think part of that is 287 00:14:13,653 --> 00:14:16,933 Speaker 5: exposing yourself to foreign conditions. And I know the guys 288 00:14:16,933 --> 00:14:18,893 Speaker 5: over here that have struggled, the next time they come 289 00:14:18,933 --> 00:14:20,973 Speaker 5: to the subcontinent they'll be so much better for it. 290 00:14:22,173 --> 00:14:24,173 Speaker 6: But yeah, it's just it's an awesome. 291 00:14:23,933 --> 00:14:28,333 Speaker 5: Challenge, I guess, you know, whether a twenty year old 292 00:14:28,413 --> 00:14:32,293 Speaker 5: or like myself and you know, thirty thirty one, just 293 00:14:32,413 --> 00:14:37,773 Speaker 5: learning learning how to you know, perform outside of New Zealand. 294 00:14:38,973 --> 00:14:41,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're an experienced player. You've had a very good 295 00:14:41,533 --> 00:14:47,093 Speaker 2: season for Wellington, an award winner in the Firebirds camp. 296 00:14:47,853 --> 00:14:52,653 Speaker 2: How are you assessing your performance throughout the season leading 297 00:14:52,733 --> 00:14:55,733 Speaker 2: up into this and the century you got in silet? 298 00:14:57,773 --> 00:15:01,173 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was an unbelievable season for me. 299 00:15:02,053 --> 00:15:06,733 Speaker 5: Statistically probably it was my best season, so it was. Yeah, 300 00:15:06,733 --> 00:15:09,093 Speaker 5: it was awesome obviously to get the reward at the 301 00:15:09,173 --> 00:15:11,333 Speaker 5: end of that season to play for the black Caps. 302 00:15:12,133 --> 00:15:13,853 Speaker 6: You know, it was a will wind experience for me. 303 00:15:14,813 --> 00:15:16,293 Speaker 5: Looking back on it, you know, it alway would have 304 00:15:16,293 --> 00:15:18,813 Speaker 5: been nice to score a few more runs, but I 305 00:15:18,813 --> 00:15:19,373 Speaker 5: guess as you. 306 00:15:19,293 --> 00:15:20,893 Speaker 6: Get older, you kind of got to. 307 00:15:22,693 --> 00:15:26,693 Speaker 5: Just know that the you know, those experiences are invaluable 308 00:15:26,693 --> 00:15:28,293 Speaker 5: and you know it'll be one of the highlights of 309 00:15:28,333 --> 00:15:30,733 Speaker 5: my career and hopefully it's not the last time I 310 00:15:30,853 --> 00:15:33,133 Speaker 5: get to put on the black Caps jersey. And then, 311 00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:37,453 Speaker 5: you know, after after reflecting on the season and the 312 00:15:37,453 --> 00:15:39,613 Speaker 5: black Caps experience for a couple of weeks or so, 313 00:15:39,773 --> 00:15:41,453 Speaker 5: it was just awesome to get straight back into it 314 00:15:41,453 --> 00:15:44,533 Speaker 5: and come over to Bangladesh and like I said before, 315 00:15:44,573 --> 00:15:45,973 Speaker 5: you know, it was a pretty tough start for some 316 00:15:46,013 --> 00:15:49,453 Speaker 5: of us. I guess that's the challenge of touring and 317 00:15:49,613 --> 00:15:51,773 Speaker 5: you just got to stay locked in and keep training hard. 318 00:15:51,853 --> 00:15:53,653 Speaker 6: And you know. 319 00:15:53,773 --> 00:15:56,373 Speaker 5: It was it was Like I said before, it was 320 00:15:56,373 --> 00:15:58,493 Speaker 5: probably one of the most rewarding endings I've ever had 321 00:15:58,493 --> 00:16:04,213 Speaker 5: over here after after you know, the lead up to it. 322 00:16:02,893 --> 00:16:05,413 Speaker 2: And in terms of wearing the black cap shit again. 323 00:16:05,413 --> 00:16:07,013 Speaker 2: I suppose all the guys are also conscious of the 324 00:16:07,173 --> 00:16:10,133 Speaker 2: fact that the game or two coming up of South 325 00:16:10,173 --> 00:16:11,333 Speaker 2: Africa isn't there. 326 00:16:12,533 --> 00:16:13,053 Speaker 6: Yep, yep. 327 00:16:13,093 --> 00:16:16,093 Speaker 5: So there's another there's another New Zealand a tour of 328 00:16:16,173 --> 00:16:18,413 Speaker 5: South Africa. I think that goes from August to September, 329 00:16:18,453 --> 00:16:23,293 Speaker 5: and then there's a Zimbabwe tour in July August for 330 00:16:23,373 --> 00:16:25,493 Speaker 5: the for the Test team with a couple of Tea 331 00:16:25,533 --> 00:16:28,693 Speaker 5: twenties chucked in there, so you know, it'll be interesting 332 00:16:28,693 --> 00:16:32,213 Speaker 5: to see what that side looks like. They've obviously got 333 00:16:32,253 --> 00:16:35,653 Speaker 5: have got the head coach roll up for Grams as well, 334 00:16:35,733 --> 00:16:37,813 Speaker 5: so I guess once they name that they'll get a 335 00:16:37,813 --> 00:16:40,093 Speaker 5: bit of clarity around you know, what side they want 336 00:16:40,133 --> 00:16:43,933 Speaker 5: to take there. And yeah, obviously you know there's a 337 00:16:43,933 --> 00:16:46,173 Speaker 5: lot of guys over here put up their hands with 338 00:16:46,253 --> 00:16:48,973 Speaker 5: some pretty nice performances, So yeah, it'll be it'll be 339 00:16:48,973 --> 00:16:50,293 Speaker 5: exciting a couple of months ahead. 340 00:16:51,453 --> 00:16:53,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, pleanny to play for all the best. Hope 341 00:16:53,813 --> 00:16:58,293 Speaker 2: the the success continues through the final game in Bangadesh 342 00:16:58,293 --> 00:17:01,333 Speaker 2: and then the majority of the players on hand for 343 00:17:01,573 --> 00:17:05,413 Speaker 2: the African Tour. Thanks for your time, Nick. 344 00:17:06,693 --> 00:17:10,493 Speaker 6: Here's what thanks for having met Kelly with us on 345 00:17:10,533 --> 00:17:11,853 Speaker 6: the front foot and Jarry. 346 00:17:11,893 --> 00:17:15,893 Speaker 2: It's good to hear cricketers talking honestly about how they 347 00:17:15,933 --> 00:17:19,533 Speaker 2: feel about what they're facing over there. Often you hear 348 00:17:19,573 --> 00:17:22,173 Speaker 2: them trying to just deflect and say, you know, that's 349 00:17:22,213 --> 00:17:24,493 Speaker 2: the way it was, that dada dada dada party line. 350 00:17:24,693 --> 00:17:27,413 Speaker 2: But he talked about the things that he found difficult 351 00:17:28,253 --> 00:17:31,933 Speaker 2: the other players have found different, the real challenges. And 352 00:17:31,973 --> 00:17:35,453 Speaker 2: again it's not so much about the actual result. It's 353 00:17:35,493 --> 00:17:37,613 Speaker 2: how they get to the result, isn't it and what 354 00:17:37,693 --> 00:17:39,733 Speaker 2: they do along the way because they're not picking the 355 00:17:39,773 --> 00:17:42,653 Speaker 2: same team on each game. So you know, it was 356 00:17:43,093 --> 00:17:45,613 Speaker 2: a good reflection and I think that highlights the value 357 00:17:45,653 --> 00:17:46,013 Speaker 2: of the win. 358 00:17:46,493 --> 00:17:51,493 Speaker 4: I enjoyed listening to it once. He's quite an experienced player, 359 00:17:51,533 --> 00:17:53,093 Speaker 4: isn't he, Nick Kelly? 360 00:17:54,373 --> 00:17:54,813 Speaker 3: What is he? 361 00:17:54,933 --> 00:18:01,093 Speaker 4: Nearly thirty two, nearly born Dare we say it in Australia. 362 00:18:01,773 --> 00:18:06,973 Speaker 4: Then he came right sixty sixty one first class matches, 363 00:18:08,933 --> 00:18:14,573 Speaker 4: he's averaging thirty nine. He's also played, I think, in 364 00:18:14,613 --> 00:18:18,533 Speaker 4: the Caribbean League, hasn't He played for sort of Saint 365 00:18:18,573 --> 00:18:24,053 Speaker 4: Kitts Nevis that side. So an experienced first class player 366 00:18:24,853 --> 00:18:29,173 Speaker 4: also played franchise, and so he's had plenty of time 367 00:18:29,293 --> 00:18:35,453 Speaker 4: to experience some disappointments and enjoy some success as well. 368 00:18:35,573 --> 00:18:38,253 Speaker 4: And there's that feeling you can have as he talks. 369 00:18:38,573 --> 00:18:43,253 Speaker 4: He's more reflective, I think. And it hasn't been all 370 00:18:43,293 --> 00:18:47,453 Speaker 4: success for him on this tour, not fourteen nineteen twenty 371 00:18:47,893 --> 00:18:50,613 Speaker 4: and then that last innings in the second and one 372 00:18:50,693 --> 00:18:54,093 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty two. So and that made a difference 373 00:18:54,133 --> 00:18:56,253 Speaker 4: in the game really in terms of the runs, didn't it. 374 00:18:57,213 --> 00:19:01,293 Speaker 4: I enjoyed the way they hung in the game. I 375 00:19:01,453 --> 00:19:05,013 Speaker 4: enjoyed it when he told me how little experienced the 376 00:19:05,013 --> 00:19:08,653 Speaker 4: New Zealand ay side had zero caps and ten fists 377 00:19:09,413 --> 00:19:13,533 Speaker 4: and Bangladesh had eighty nine. I think that's quite telling, 378 00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:17,733 Speaker 4: isn't it. One of those difficult things that you spoke 379 00:19:17,773 --> 00:19:21,253 Speaker 4: about in touring Bangladesh. Not just the heat he mentioned that, 380 00:19:22,093 --> 00:19:26,293 Speaker 4: not just the thunderstorms. He mentioned that, not just staying 381 00:19:26,333 --> 00:19:28,653 Speaker 4: in your hotel for a long periods of time. He 382 00:19:28,733 --> 00:19:33,813 Speaker 4: mentioned that, and so it's something that is different for 383 00:19:33,893 --> 00:19:40,293 Speaker 4: the New Zealand perspective. And I thought the parts that 384 00:19:40,373 --> 00:19:44,373 Speaker 4: he spoke about the spin in the first innings that 385 00:19:44,453 --> 00:19:47,453 Speaker 4: players getting frustrated the spinners. 386 00:19:48,333 --> 00:19:49,333 Speaker 3: And that's a good thing. 387 00:19:49,773 --> 00:19:53,053 Speaker 4: You can talk until you're red in the face about 388 00:19:53,093 --> 00:19:59,573 Speaker 4: accuracy and consistency, but until the bowlers have actually felt it, 389 00:19:59,573 --> 00:20:01,853 Speaker 4: it's quite difficult to get through to them. 390 00:20:01,893 --> 00:20:03,373 Speaker 3: It's just a couple of words. 391 00:20:04,293 --> 00:20:09,573 Speaker 4: I enjoyed the fact that he noticed that their players, 392 00:20:09,653 --> 00:20:13,373 Speaker 4: the Bangladesk players say, play spin so well, they. 393 00:20:13,213 --> 00:20:14,133 Speaker 3: Look so comfortable. 394 00:20:16,293 --> 00:20:21,413 Speaker 4: No, absolutely, and you know, manipulating the ball and using 395 00:20:21,453 --> 00:20:23,613 Speaker 4: the increase and playing the sweep and so on. 396 00:20:23,893 --> 00:20:26,293 Speaker 3: But it brings up an important point, doesn't it. 397 00:20:26,413 --> 00:20:30,053 Speaker 4: You learn as well, not just from batting or from 398 00:20:30,053 --> 00:20:34,093 Speaker 4: bowling or fielding. You learn from watching the other side play, 399 00:20:34,533 --> 00:20:38,373 Speaker 4: and particularly the locals play, who have been in those 400 00:20:38,413 --> 00:20:39,933 Speaker 4: conditions all their lives. 401 00:20:40,613 --> 00:20:42,373 Speaker 3: So that was interesting to me. 402 00:20:43,373 --> 00:20:45,613 Speaker 4: You mentioned Addie Ashok and you spoke to him about 403 00:20:46,413 --> 00:20:48,693 Speaker 4: nice to have a bowler who can turn it both ways. 404 00:20:49,613 --> 00:20:53,973 Speaker 4: I would also mention Linux because he was at the 405 00:20:53,973 --> 00:20:58,413 Speaker 4: other end, wasn't he And he's been quite tight and 406 00:20:58,533 --> 00:21:02,173 Speaker 4: tidy and accurate and those things we've talked about all tour. 407 00:21:04,093 --> 00:21:07,893 Speaker 4: So you know, the heat he mentioned Carter going off 408 00:21:07,933 --> 00:21:08,693 Speaker 4: of heat stroke. 409 00:21:08,853 --> 00:21:09,373 Speaker 3: Joe Carter. 410 00:21:09,453 --> 00:21:11,933 Speaker 4: I guess it's Joe, not Bob guard of the coach. 411 00:21:12,213 --> 00:21:15,573 Speaker 4: He wouldn't be taken off the heat stroke with just 412 00:21:15,573 --> 00:21:22,813 Speaker 4: from watching And yeah, I think I really quite enjoyed 413 00:21:22,853 --> 00:21:24,533 Speaker 4: the whole interview. 414 00:21:24,613 --> 00:21:28,053 Speaker 3: Actually, as you say, good to hear a player. 415 00:21:28,973 --> 00:21:31,453 Speaker 4: They don't normally let us speak to the players, do 416 00:21:31,693 --> 00:21:35,293 Speaker 4: not us anyway. That's hard and it's good to get 417 00:21:35,373 --> 00:21:35,973 Speaker 4: him this time. 418 00:21:37,133 --> 00:21:40,773 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's you know, and I thought it was 419 00:21:41,053 --> 00:21:43,613 Speaker 2: interesting and important too to talk about his season because 420 00:21:43,613 --> 00:21:46,693 Speaker 2: as he said, it's the best season he's had. And 421 00:21:46,933 --> 00:21:49,413 Speaker 2: you know, players care about those sorts of things, don't. 422 00:21:49,573 --> 00:21:52,173 Speaker 2: They look at their stats. They want to achieve. He 423 00:21:52,253 --> 00:21:55,373 Speaker 2: got an international selection at the end of it. There 424 00:21:55,373 --> 00:21:57,773 Speaker 2: are other players who haven't quite performed on the source 425 00:21:57,813 --> 00:22:01,573 Speaker 2: of Muhammed Bass, who is, you know, an up and 426 00:22:01,573 --> 00:22:05,413 Speaker 2: coming young player, but probably ten years younger than than 427 00:22:05,493 --> 00:22:10,813 Speaker 2: Nick Kelly, you know, and obviously Kelly and Carter, and 428 00:22:10,853 --> 00:22:14,493 Speaker 2: perhaps somebody like Mitch Hay who's been around the scene 429 00:22:14,493 --> 00:22:16,453 Speaker 2: for a while, are helping some of these other guys 430 00:22:16,493 --> 00:22:20,573 Speaker 2: come to grips with playing in the subcontinent. They've had 431 00:22:20,573 --> 00:22:25,013 Speaker 2: a couple of tours there. It's good development for them. 432 00:22:25,493 --> 00:22:29,293 Speaker 2: And you know, the heat aspects. We underplay the heat 433 00:22:29,293 --> 00:22:31,973 Speaker 2: aspect to some extent because you know what it's like. 434 00:22:32,013 --> 00:22:34,973 Speaker 2: You've played in really hot conditions that you know it 435 00:22:35,133 --> 00:22:37,333 Speaker 2: can It can tear you apart, can't. It can take 436 00:22:37,373 --> 00:22:40,213 Speaker 2: your mind off the game, you can lose concentration, you 437 00:22:40,253 --> 00:22:43,813 Speaker 2: can make mistakes easily when you're fatigued, and you know, 438 00:22:44,213 --> 00:22:46,093 Speaker 2: to be able to come out of that game with 439 00:22:46,133 --> 00:22:49,653 Speaker 2: a victory, I think they beat all the things that 440 00:22:49,693 --> 00:22:52,413 Speaker 2: were against them, including the elements. Yep. 441 00:22:52,613 --> 00:22:57,293 Speaker 4: I agree, spin and heat two rather different things for 442 00:22:57,373 --> 00:23:01,413 Speaker 4: New Zealanders to face this uncomfortable mix, but that to 443 00:23:01,493 --> 00:23:05,493 Speaker 4: be able to endure in those conditions, you know, using 444 00:23:05,573 --> 00:23:09,053 Speaker 4: your energy at the right times, I think is quite 445 00:23:09,093 --> 00:23:12,453 Speaker 4: an important thing as you developed as a player, pushing 446 00:23:12,493 --> 00:23:16,133 Speaker 4: yourself beyond the places where you've been and where you 447 00:23:16,293 --> 00:23:20,813 Speaker 4: normally operate. You know, good cricketers make good decisions and 448 00:23:20,853 --> 00:23:24,133 Speaker 4: there are times when the decision is sensible that I'm 449 00:23:24,173 --> 00:23:26,573 Speaker 4: just going to play out a couple of overs, not 450 00:23:26,773 --> 00:23:31,693 Speaker 4: run really sharp singles all the time. And I remember 451 00:23:31,773 --> 00:23:34,213 Speaker 4: Turner telling me about that when he got those double 452 00:23:34,373 --> 00:23:37,933 Speaker 4: hundreds against the West End. He's a couple of timers 453 00:23:38,013 --> 00:23:40,933 Speaker 4: and test matches there where he spent just time at 454 00:23:41,013 --> 00:23:47,493 Speaker 4: the crease, savoring and just looking after himself for maybe 455 00:23:47,613 --> 00:23:48,493 Speaker 4: five overs. 456 00:23:49,173 --> 00:23:51,973 Speaker 3: Important little times. I think that you have to do that. 457 00:23:53,813 --> 00:23:57,133 Speaker 4: So that's an important again, All these little things wadds 458 00:23:57,173 --> 00:24:01,333 Speaker 4: that we're talking about help you to become a better player. 459 00:24:01,853 --> 00:24:05,653 Speaker 4: And they've got enough runs, haven't They just have just 460 00:24:05,813 --> 00:24:09,293 Speaker 4: got enough runs to to get a two to one 461 00:24:09,373 --> 00:24:13,213 Speaker 4: result in the the Eyes and now to lead this match. 462 00:24:13,253 --> 00:24:17,453 Speaker 4: And there have been been little responses from Foxcroft and 463 00:24:17,573 --> 00:24:20,333 Speaker 4: Hay and Kelly in this match. And Carter's got a 464 00:24:20,333 --> 00:24:23,373 Speaker 4: few Phillips got a few in the Odie Eyes. So 465 00:24:23,453 --> 00:24:27,373 Speaker 4: there's been just enough throughout to keep them in games. 466 00:24:27,413 --> 00:24:30,013 Speaker 4: They're having to fight all the time. 467 00:24:30,453 --> 00:24:32,773 Speaker 2: Yep, they're certainly having to fight to the start of 468 00:24:32,813 --> 00:24:35,893 Speaker 2: the final game in duk Aren. We'll keep a check 469 00:24:35,933 --> 00:24:39,573 Speaker 2: on that and next week have a chat about the 470 00:24:39,573 --> 00:24:43,293 Speaker 2: successes of the Tower. What was the hottest you played 471 00:24:43,373 --> 00:24:47,773 Speaker 2: cricket and it was against the West Indies, Ghana Holding 472 00:24:48,373 --> 00:24:50,853 Speaker 2: Marshall and everybody else. I mean they carried a bit 473 00:24:50,853 --> 00:24:51,533 Speaker 2: of heat, didn't they. 474 00:24:52,053 --> 00:24:55,533 Speaker 4: Different type of heat, was different type of heat that 475 00:24:55,653 --> 00:24:57,933 Speaker 4: it was, Yes, it was certainly the sun was beaming 476 00:24:57,973 --> 00:25:01,853 Speaker 4: down as well, but yeah, I think probably Sri Lanka 477 00:25:01,973 --> 00:25:08,053 Speaker 4: for the humidity. I remember Key, Oh yeah, I remember 478 00:25:08,133 --> 00:25:14,213 Speaker 4: ke ends one day bowling a relatively long spell and 479 00:25:14,293 --> 00:25:17,973 Speaker 4: having to shine the ball on his socks because they 480 00:25:18,013 --> 00:25:21,613 Speaker 4: were the driest part of his clothing that he had. 481 00:25:22,693 --> 00:25:24,093 Speaker 3: I remember. 482 00:25:25,093 --> 00:25:27,653 Speaker 4: The doc Doc Edmund's coming out and he used to 483 00:25:27,653 --> 00:25:30,773 Speaker 4: come out at drinks with this huge picture of just 484 00:25:30,933 --> 00:25:34,173 Speaker 4: water and it was It wasn't for us, it was 485 00:25:34,173 --> 00:25:37,533 Speaker 4: for John Wright, John Right, and the covers just stood 486 00:25:37,533 --> 00:25:40,613 Speaker 4: there and said, okay, Doc up ended. 487 00:25:41,013 --> 00:25:44,773 Speaker 3: And he did up ended it completely. 488 00:25:44,013 --> 00:25:47,573 Speaker 4: Over John Right, and you could hear him squelching round 489 00:25:47,613 --> 00:25:50,613 Speaker 4: and extra cover for about the next four overs before 490 00:25:50,653 --> 00:25:51,573 Speaker 4: his shoes were dry. 491 00:25:52,293 --> 00:25:53,333 Speaker 3: It was right. 492 00:25:53,373 --> 00:25:55,533 Speaker 2: He loved throwing water over people too, didn't he. 493 00:25:55,613 --> 00:26:00,173 Speaker 3: Oh he did. And yeah, you're quite right. We're not 494 00:26:00,213 --> 00:26:01,533 Speaker 3: going to go into those stories. 495 00:26:05,013 --> 00:26:07,813 Speaker 2: I remember, I've told the story I copped the full bucket. 496 00:26:08,773 --> 00:26:13,613 Speaker 4: Yeah, water botber down as you going out to the 497 00:26:13,653 --> 00:26:18,733 Speaker 4: bus to lead for the ground, having a nice little 498 00:26:18,813 --> 00:26:21,733 Speaker 4: warm shower, that's suddenly a buck of the cold water 499 00:26:22,533 --> 00:26:27,293 Speaker 4: all over you are lots of people, lots of people chased, righty. 500 00:26:27,853 --> 00:26:29,893 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I think there are a lot of people 501 00:26:29,933 --> 00:26:32,933 Speaker 2: that had to get one back, so to speak. 502 00:26:34,253 --> 00:26:35,253 Speaker 3: We might talk to about it. 503 00:26:35,453 --> 00:26:37,653 Speaker 2: If we can track him down and he's home from India, 504 00:26:37,693 --> 00:26:39,813 Speaker 2: we might talk to him about it. At some stage. 505 00:26:40,013 --> 00:26:43,573 Speaker 2: We've searched for Writy, haven't we, But he always seems 506 00:26:43,613 --> 00:26:45,693 Speaker 2: to be away from our grasp. 507 00:26:45,933 --> 00:26:46,653 Speaker 3: But we'll get him. 508 00:26:46,733 --> 00:26:48,493 Speaker 2: We'll get him about that. 509 00:26:48,853 --> 00:26:53,333 Speaker 1: Brian Waddle, Jeremy Coney on the front foot talk. 510 00:26:53,253 --> 00:26:56,813 Speaker 2: About Test cricket. Jerry, we've got a Test men now. 511 00:26:57,653 --> 00:27:01,253 Speaker 2: I still can't work it out. The Test match against 512 00:27:01,253 --> 00:27:04,133 Speaker 2: them Babwe with England is actually a four day game 513 00:27:05,933 --> 00:27:12,133 Speaker 2: and I found that it was. Yeah, Lawrence Booth mentioned 514 00:27:12,133 --> 00:27:13,933 Speaker 2: that and I sort of thought, well, that's a bit's strange. 515 00:27:14,013 --> 00:27:18,173 Speaker 2: But it is four days and I've read where England 516 00:27:18,293 --> 00:27:22,133 Speaker 2: are paying Zimbabwe to play there, so they obviously need 517 00:27:22,893 --> 00:27:27,493 Speaker 2: the warm up match before they have their upcoming series 518 00:27:27,533 --> 00:27:30,333 Speaker 2: and they've got quite a big year. But prior to 519 00:27:30,373 --> 00:27:32,813 Speaker 2: the series, Brendan McCullum, and the head coach of the side, 520 00:27:32,933 --> 00:27:37,413 Speaker 2: is called on England to improve their humility as they 521 00:27:37,613 --> 00:27:42,373 Speaker 2: begin a year that will define his spell in charge. 522 00:27:42,733 --> 00:27:45,373 Speaker 2: McCollum has said, it's not just about what you do 523 00:27:45,453 --> 00:27:48,573 Speaker 2: on the cricket field. It's how you carry yourself. It's 524 00:27:48,613 --> 00:27:51,653 Speaker 2: how you interact with the public. It's the messaging that 525 00:27:51,733 --> 00:27:53,973 Speaker 2: you give. But one of their problems, of course, that 526 00:27:53,973 --> 00:27:56,653 Speaker 2: they've been told off for playing golf and putting too 527 00:27:56,733 --> 00:27:59,013 Speaker 2: much time into golf and putting their golf clubs first 528 00:27:59,053 --> 00:28:01,853 Speaker 2: on the carousel when they get on an airplane. But 529 00:28:02,053 --> 00:28:06,813 Speaker 2: I can't look out what actually means by humility to 530 00:28:06,933 --> 00:28:10,533 Speaker 2: improve their humility. Have they seen as too arrogant? I 531 00:28:10,573 --> 00:28:12,813 Speaker 2: thought arrogance was an important part of being a top 532 00:28:12,893 --> 00:28:14,013 Speaker 2: level performer. 533 00:28:15,093 --> 00:28:17,253 Speaker 4: Yeah, but not off the field. Ones, That's what he's saying. 534 00:28:18,573 --> 00:28:21,693 Speaker 4: You can certainly back yourself when you're in the game 535 00:28:21,733 --> 00:28:24,333 Speaker 4: and out there once you step over the white line. 536 00:28:23,893 --> 00:28:25,333 Speaker 3: But once. 537 00:28:26,773 --> 00:28:30,853 Speaker 4: Once you actually speak in the media in particular, is 538 00:28:30,853 --> 00:28:34,173 Speaker 4: what he's talking about, isn't he. And he's saying, look, 539 00:28:34,853 --> 00:28:38,213 Speaker 4: just carry yourselves a bit more carefully, guys. And there 540 00:28:38,253 --> 00:28:41,213 Speaker 4: is a difference between listening to us talk and the 541 00:28:41,333 --> 00:28:46,613 Speaker 4: changing room and when you're out speaking with the microphone, 542 00:28:47,413 --> 00:28:52,333 Speaker 4: you know, thrust at your face. So I think there 543 00:28:52,333 --> 00:28:57,093 Speaker 4: has been a bit of a bit of complaint about 544 00:28:57,173 --> 00:28:59,493 Speaker 4: the way that they do speak, and I think he's 545 00:28:59,533 --> 00:29:03,213 Speaker 4: probably agreed with that and has spoken to his team 546 00:29:03,253 --> 00:29:05,893 Speaker 4: about it. I think the other thing about it is 547 00:29:05,933 --> 00:29:10,053 Speaker 4: they're starting to what have they had since they've had 548 00:29:10,173 --> 00:29:13,373 Speaker 4: twenty five tests? I think it is they won thirteen 549 00:29:15,213 --> 00:29:21,453 Speaker 4: and lost eleven, so one drawn maybe for rain I 550 00:29:21,493 --> 00:29:25,333 Speaker 4: don't know, but you know, as you just said that, 551 00:29:25,773 --> 00:29:27,613 Speaker 4: it puts them sort of in that middle ground. 552 00:29:27,653 --> 00:29:28,453 Speaker 3: How they're second. 553 00:29:28,893 --> 00:29:30,773 Speaker 4: I got quite surprised when I saw they are now 554 00:29:30,853 --> 00:29:31,693 Speaker 4: ranked second. 555 00:29:32,933 --> 00:29:34,093 Speaker 3: Doesn't seem quite right to me. 556 00:29:36,093 --> 00:29:39,893 Speaker 4: But this year I think England are about winning and 557 00:29:40,013 --> 00:29:44,293 Speaker 4: losing test matches more than it has been in the past, 558 00:29:44,733 --> 00:29:51,093 Speaker 4: more than when the arrival of McCullum, and certainly over 559 00:29:51,253 --> 00:29:55,013 Speaker 4: I think this year the method that he's espoused and 560 00:29:55,093 --> 00:29:58,293 Speaker 4: spoken about in the process that he's forging which has 561 00:29:58,333 --> 00:30:03,493 Speaker 4: dominated their game. It's about winning and losing matches and 562 00:30:04,053 --> 00:30:07,133 Speaker 4: they'll be looking very much to I would have thought 563 00:30:07,213 --> 00:30:11,933 Speaker 4: trying bullies them. They're playing at Trent Bridge, as you know, 564 00:30:13,813 --> 00:30:19,973 Speaker 4: four days, very good pitch, usually dry, good carry lightning, 565 00:30:20,133 --> 00:30:25,733 Speaker 4: fast across the ground, very short boundary to one side 566 00:30:25,813 --> 00:30:30,253 Speaker 4: the Bridgeford road side. The weather's been really good in 567 00:30:30,373 --> 00:30:33,493 Speaker 4: the UK, but I believe there's a wee bit of 568 00:30:33,573 --> 00:30:36,493 Speaker 4: rain this weekend, so we'll keep an eye on that. 569 00:30:38,733 --> 00:30:42,693 Speaker 4: But look, they could bully Zimbabwe maybe with the bat 570 00:30:44,453 --> 00:30:48,493 Speaker 4: because it's such a fast scoring ground and I think 571 00:30:48,973 --> 00:30:52,853 Speaker 4: maybe Atkinson, Josh Tungue, Sam Cook maybe they might be 572 00:30:52,893 --> 00:30:53,533 Speaker 4: a bit accurate. 573 00:30:53,573 --> 00:30:54,613 Speaker 3: We'll wait and see. 574 00:30:55,013 --> 00:30:58,293 Speaker 4: Strange things can happen and cricket, can't they And it's 575 00:30:58,333 --> 00:30:59,893 Speaker 4: been what twenty oddeas? 576 00:30:59,893 --> 00:31:02,413 Speaker 3: Would it be twenty years since they've played each other. 577 00:31:03,893 --> 00:31:05,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, about twenty two, I think something like that. 578 00:31:05,533 --> 00:31:07,413 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty two, that's right. 579 00:31:07,693 --> 00:31:10,013 Speaker 4: I was there they're at Chester the Street two thousand 580 00:31:10,053 --> 00:31:15,613 Speaker 4: and three and watched that game. And they have had, 581 00:31:15,653 --> 00:31:18,653 Speaker 4: of course a self imposed exile for five or six years, 582 00:31:19,453 --> 00:31:23,213 Speaker 4: and then they've had the bit with with mcgarby. 583 00:31:23,413 --> 00:31:25,733 Speaker 3: Of course that kept a lot of sides away. 584 00:31:28,093 --> 00:31:31,213 Speaker 4: They've got eleven tests this year wards you said they 585 00:31:31,253 --> 00:31:35,493 Speaker 4: had a few games. Eleven tests, How that would be 586 00:31:35,533 --> 00:31:36,613 Speaker 4: the most they've ever had. 587 00:31:36,653 --> 00:31:39,453 Speaker 3: I would think in a season. 588 00:31:40,893 --> 00:31:42,693 Speaker 2: It's it's good for them though, isn't it. That's the 589 00:31:42,693 --> 00:31:46,733 Speaker 2: way they're fantastic, you know. And they've got this guy 590 00:31:46,773 --> 00:31:48,893 Speaker 2: who's the leading Test. We could take it this. 591 00:31:48,933 --> 00:31:51,733 Speaker 3: Year, Blessed Mother of Barney. 592 00:31:52,893 --> 00:31:54,973 Speaker 2: That's the guy. Haven't he got twenty six? I'll beat 593 00:31:55,013 --> 00:31:58,573 Speaker 2: you to it, but that's not twenty six wickets? Probably 594 00:31:58,573 --> 00:31:58,933 Speaker 2: young guy. 595 00:31:58,973 --> 00:32:02,533 Speaker 3: I think he's Oh he's six foot eight. 596 00:32:04,413 --> 00:32:06,893 Speaker 4: And it's it's his third lot of six wickets he 597 00:32:06,933 --> 00:32:11,533 Speaker 4: got against when they won at Silette against Bangladesh recently 598 00:32:12,373 --> 00:32:17,813 Speaker 4: and that sent the I p L. They came calling 599 00:32:18,213 --> 00:32:20,493 Speaker 4: Andy Flower as the coach of the IPL. 600 00:32:20,533 --> 00:32:25,693 Speaker 3: Of course where's he from? And so. 601 00:32:27,173 --> 00:32:30,933 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's his third loss, third a lot 602 00:32:30,973 --> 00:32:34,973 Speaker 4: of Tests, six wickets, But you know he's done very well. Indeed, 603 00:32:35,413 --> 00:32:39,053 Speaker 4: they've got they've got got another couple of guys. They're batsmen. 604 00:32:39,133 --> 00:32:43,213 Speaker 4: We know more wads, don't we. Secundar Raza now. 605 00:32:43,133 --> 00:32:43,893 Speaker 3: He is he there? 606 00:32:45,933 --> 00:32:49,133 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's at the PCL A little he's been at 607 00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:52,373 Speaker 4: the PCL, but I think he's on the tour. They've 608 00:32:52,373 --> 00:32:55,213 Speaker 4: got Ben Curran is a name that you and I 609 00:32:55,253 --> 00:32:58,733 Speaker 4: would know. Tom and Sam are his brothers. Remember Kevin 610 00:32:58,853 --> 00:33:04,133 Speaker 4: was the dad played at Northampton's and also played for 611 00:33:04,253 --> 00:33:08,173 Speaker 4: Zimbabwe in the eighties. Craig Irvine, we know Sean Williams, 612 00:33:08,213 --> 00:33:11,693 Speaker 4: we know they're the batsmen. I don't know quite so 613 00:33:11,853 --> 00:33:15,693 Speaker 4: many of the bowlers, I'd have to say, but look 614 00:33:15,773 --> 00:33:17,653 Speaker 4: see how they go. See if they can hang in 615 00:33:17,693 --> 00:33:22,213 Speaker 4: there and not get well behind too early on in 616 00:33:22,213 --> 00:33:22,693 Speaker 4: the match. 617 00:33:23,013 --> 00:33:25,293 Speaker 2: YEP. That's going to be the interesting defeature for them 618 00:33:25,293 --> 00:33:27,573 Speaker 2: because they have got an opportunity. They'll be up against 619 00:33:27,613 --> 00:33:30,413 Speaker 2: a fairly powerful batting lineup in England. I think they've 620 00:33:30,413 --> 00:33:34,413 Speaker 2: picked the predictable batting lineup. There's probably Jacob Bethel who's 621 00:33:34,573 --> 00:33:37,933 Speaker 2: likely to come in and this guy Roue who seems 622 00:33:37,973 --> 00:33:41,533 Speaker 2: to be making waves in terms of scoring runs, who 623 00:33:41,573 --> 00:33:44,453 Speaker 2: could come into consideration. But you won't see them change 624 00:33:44,493 --> 00:33:47,453 Speaker 2: their batting lineup too much England. But they'll preserve their 625 00:33:47,453 --> 00:33:49,133 Speaker 2: bowlers pretty well, I would imagine. 626 00:33:49,693 --> 00:33:52,733 Speaker 4: Yeah, the bowling lineup is Atkinson. They picked the side, 627 00:33:52,733 --> 00:33:56,293 Speaker 4: haven't they. Atkinson, Josh Tungue who played against the Aussies. 628 00:33:56,613 --> 00:34:00,413 Speaker 4: He's the quickest around in the county circuit. Sam Cooker 629 00:34:00,453 --> 00:34:04,373 Speaker 4: is the guy that less not in terms of speed, 630 00:34:04,573 --> 00:34:08,813 Speaker 4: zippy not high pace, but he's at the stumps. He 631 00:34:08,933 --> 00:34:11,613 Speaker 4: nips it, he swings it. He's got more than three 632 00:34:11,693 --> 00:34:16,133 Speaker 4: hundred first class wickets, probably the most in the last 633 00:34:16,173 --> 00:34:19,653 Speaker 4: five years of anybody in county cricket. And so those 634 00:34:19,693 --> 00:34:22,853 Speaker 4: are the three seemers and then Shah Basher they're sticking 635 00:34:22,893 --> 00:34:26,813 Speaker 4: with as well. So it's interesting. It's an interesting side on, 636 00:34:27,093 --> 00:34:31,453 Speaker 4: isn't it having Crawley there? Having Pope with a Hope? 637 00:34:31,453 --> 00:34:35,093 Speaker 4: I'm not sure, you know, is he a keeper? Is 638 00:34:35,133 --> 00:34:38,093 Speaker 4: he a number three? Is he a utility player who 639 00:34:38,213 --> 00:34:40,853 Speaker 4: bats six as he did in New Zealand? 640 00:34:41,653 --> 00:34:43,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the question. Is he a number three? I 641 00:34:44,013 --> 00:34:46,933 Speaker 2: think he's a he's a Test match quality player, but 642 00:34:47,053 --> 00:34:49,933 Speaker 2: is it necessarily at number three? I mean I see him, well, 643 00:34:50,093 --> 00:34:52,213 Speaker 2: he's done reasonably well in that role, hasn't he. But 644 00:34:52,253 --> 00:34:54,573 Speaker 2: I see him as a sort of a four or 645 00:34:54,653 --> 00:34:58,693 Speaker 2: five stroke maker rather than a number three. But who 646 00:34:58,773 --> 00:35:01,293 Speaker 2: is there number three in England? You know they're still 647 00:35:01,333 --> 00:35:03,893 Speaker 2: struggling with Crawley, aren't they yet? There are a lot 648 00:35:03,933 --> 00:35:07,493 Speaker 2: of openers in England county cricket scoring good runs but 649 00:35:07,613 --> 00:35:12,493 Speaker 2: can't be seen. Got a double century the other week, 650 00:35:12,533 --> 00:35:15,453 Speaker 2: but you know twenty eight, he's not seen as sort 651 00:35:15,453 --> 00:35:18,173 Speaker 2: of material for the England side. 652 00:35:18,213 --> 00:35:22,853 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, well that's the whole question, isn't it have 653 00:35:22,973 --> 00:35:28,613 Speaker 4: this selection group they have they looked at performance or 654 00:35:28,693 --> 00:35:33,573 Speaker 4: do they look at talent and attributes? Those are the questions. 655 00:35:34,173 --> 00:35:36,133 Speaker 4: I think we know the answer that they've tended to 656 00:35:36,133 --> 00:35:40,173 Speaker 4: look at the second group rather than the first. But 657 00:35:40,373 --> 00:35:43,293 Speaker 4: now they seem to be softening a bit on that. 658 00:35:43,333 --> 00:35:46,333 Speaker 4: When you look at someone like Sam Cook who's got 659 00:35:46,373 --> 00:35:50,413 Speaker 4: all the wickets and got all the results and the performances, 660 00:35:50,933 --> 00:35:52,453 Speaker 4: now he comes into the side. 661 00:35:53,773 --> 00:35:55,693 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a case of having to play yourself out 662 00:35:55,733 --> 00:35:57,573 Speaker 2: of the England so I'd rather than play yourself in, 663 00:35:57,693 --> 00:35:58,013 Speaker 2: isn't it? 664 00:35:58,293 --> 00:36:00,693 Speaker 3: Yep? Totally totally. 665 00:36:01,013 --> 00:36:04,373 Speaker 4: So that'll be an interesting I mean that whole year, 666 00:36:04,453 --> 00:36:06,933 Speaker 4: This whole year is going to be very interesting watching 667 00:36:06,973 --> 00:36:07,893 Speaker 4: this England. 668 00:36:07,573 --> 00:36:10,493 Speaker 2: Side most definitely, and it's going to be interesting in 669 00:36:10,533 --> 00:36:13,253 Speaker 2: Test cricket watching the West Indies who have just been 670 00:36:13,253 --> 00:36:16,173 Speaker 2: beaten by Ireland in a short form game and they're 671 00:36:16,213 --> 00:36:21,533 Speaker 2: starting to rearrange themselves. They've rearranged the captaincy of the 672 00:36:21,533 --> 00:36:23,373 Speaker 2: West Indies side a guy called Ross and Chase you 673 00:36:23,413 --> 00:36:27,653 Speaker 2: we've seen out here. He's been appointed captain. He hasn't 674 00:36:27,653 --> 00:36:30,053 Speaker 2: played a match in the Test format for more than 675 00:36:30,053 --> 00:36:33,573 Speaker 2: two years, and he replaces Craig Breathway, he stepped down 676 00:36:34,093 --> 00:36:39,013 Speaker 2: from the result from the who stepped down from the 677 00:36:39,053 --> 00:36:43,413 Speaker 2: position and is no longer wanting to be captain. I 678 00:36:43,453 --> 00:36:47,093 Speaker 2: think the other contenders with the keeper Joshua to silver 679 00:36:47,773 --> 00:36:51,573 Speaker 2: fellow called John Campbell who's served suspension in the West 680 00:36:51,613 --> 00:36:55,213 Speaker 2: Indies game recently, and the baller Jamel Warrick. The interesting 681 00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:58,893 Speaker 2: thing for me, Jerry, and as a former New Zealand captain, 682 00:36:59,613 --> 00:37:06,533 Speaker 2: I do understand your belief in the reasoning behind the appointment. 683 00:37:06,853 --> 00:37:09,653 Speaker 2: The Cricket West Indies released and each candidate went through 684 00:37:09,653 --> 00:37:14,573 Speaker 2: a detailed assessment process that included psychometric testing to evaluate 685 00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:20,293 Speaker 2: leadership style, behavior and overall suitability for the role, as 686 00:37:20,293 --> 00:37:24,693 Speaker 2: well as structured interviews focused on technical approach, communication skills 687 00:37:25,093 --> 00:37:27,893 Speaker 2: and team culture. Jesus, if you pass that test, you 688 00:37:27,933 --> 00:37:28,733 Speaker 2: deserve to be captain. 689 00:37:31,773 --> 00:37:34,093 Speaker 4: I just thought, I just thought it was more that 690 00:37:34,173 --> 00:37:37,653 Speaker 4: they watched you while while you were playing, and the 691 00:37:37,693 --> 00:37:40,653 Speaker 4: decisions you kind of made and the fields that you 692 00:37:40,813 --> 00:37:45,053 Speaker 4: set and how long each bowler got a bowl, you know, 693 00:37:46,013 --> 00:37:49,653 Speaker 4: and decisions off the field too. Goodness, gracious me, I 694 00:37:49,693 --> 00:37:52,173 Speaker 4: wouldn't have can you be half? The New Zealand captains 695 00:37:52,173 --> 00:37:54,653 Speaker 4: wouldn't have made it with that sort of those sort 696 00:37:54,653 --> 00:37:58,213 Speaker 4: of questions for him, and say can you see can 697 00:37:58,253 --> 00:38:01,853 Speaker 4: you see Jeff Howith making that? Goodness? And he was 698 00:38:01,893 --> 00:38:05,453 Speaker 4: our most successful captain, he and Fleming? Can you see 699 00:38:05,493 --> 00:38:08,133 Speaker 4: them sitting down doing a psychometric test. 700 00:38:09,373 --> 00:38:11,853 Speaker 2: That I can't work? Well, what is a psychometric test? 701 00:38:12,253 --> 00:38:16,893 Speaker 4: Well, that's well, it's metric whatever it does, it's not imperial. 702 00:38:17,293 --> 00:38:19,333 Speaker 4: You don't do a psycho imperial test. 703 00:38:20,853 --> 00:38:23,693 Speaker 2: Did I say, did you pass the psychometric testing? 704 00:38:24,213 --> 00:38:24,573 Speaker 3: I don't. 705 00:38:24,773 --> 00:38:30,173 Speaker 4: I had nothing to do with any of that. And 706 00:38:30,293 --> 00:38:34,573 Speaker 4: thankfully that wasn't the way that that that they picked 707 00:38:34,933 --> 00:38:39,533 Speaker 4: picked captains. Then in those days there was general surprise, 708 00:38:39,853 --> 00:38:43,973 Speaker 4: I would have to say, around around most people and 709 00:38:44,173 --> 00:38:48,973 Speaker 4: the cricketing circles. But no, no, none of that, No 710 00:38:48,973 --> 00:38:53,213 Speaker 4: no interviews. Of course, Taylor and McCullum had to go 711 00:38:53,293 --> 00:38:56,533 Speaker 4: through a presidential interview process, didn't They were They were 712 00:38:56,533 --> 00:39:00,973 Speaker 4: both some of there to speak to a panel of people. 713 00:39:01,773 --> 00:39:05,053 Speaker 4: But that's the only time and and look at the 714 00:39:05,053 --> 00:39:10,653 Speaker 4: trouble that caused, you know, so yeah, I don't know 715 00:39:10,933 --> 00:39:15,573 Speaker 4: it's a good thing. But Royce hasn't played for the 716 00:39:15,653 --> 00:39:17,853 Speaker 4: last two years a Test match. 717 00:39:19,493 --> 00:39:24,653 Speaker 2: They be watching cricketer. Well, he's obviously got on the 718 00:39:24,733 --> 00:39:27,173 Speaker 2: right side of the selectors because I think he might 719 00:39:27,213 --> 00:39:30,453 Speaker 2: be from Barbados. I'm not too sure where he calls home, 720 00:39:31,973 --> 00:39:36,693 Speaker 2: and it's it's just just an interesting selection point of 721 00:39:36,733 --> 00:39:39,773 Speaker 2: view because they've been struggling and we haven't got much 722 00:39:39,813 --> 00:39:41,493 Speaker 2: time to talk about it this week. But I mean, 723 00:39:41,733 --> 00:39:44,653 Speaker 2: when you're picking your captain, don't you leave it to 724 00:39:45,253 --> 00:39:48,213 Speaker 2: the coach. Wouldn't you coach want to be working closely 725 00:39:48,253 --> 00:39:51,013 Speaker 2: with the captain and New Zealand Cricket have got to 726 00:39:51,053 --> 00:39:55,573 Speaker 2: look at their coaching setup because there's due to be 727 00:39:55,653 --> 00:39:58,533 Speaker 2: one appointed. Well, Tom Latham is the New Zealand captain 728 00:39:58,533 --> 00:40:01,733 Speaker 2: at the moment. If that changes, wouldn't the coach or 729 00:40:01,773 --> 00:40:06,573 Speaker 2: the high performance director or Gary Stead whatever role he has. 730 00:40:06,613 --> 00:40:09,133 Speaker 2: I sort of see him taking over the bright astronic role. 731 00:40:09,333 --> 00:40:12,253 Speaker 2: We don't know, but they are interesting features that we 732 00:40:12,293 --> 00:40:14,613 Speaker 2: can look forward to when it comes to what happens 733 00:40:14,653 --> 00:40:16,373 Speaker 2: to the New Zealand side. 734 00:40:16,893 --> 00:40:22,413 Speaker 4: Yeah, and presumably wadds they will take. They'll pick the contracts, 735 00:40:22,453 --> 00:40:28,613 Speaker 4: won't they Prior to that and prior to that July part. 736 00:40:30,013 --> 00:40:32,053 Speaker 2: Don't they have to pick the contract, put the contract 737 00:40:32,053 --> 00:40:35,453 Speaker 2: players out after they've got a new coach or you 738 00:40:35,493 --> 00:40:38,093 Speaker 2: know to me, oh, yes, they do scenario, but they've 739 00:40:38,093 --> 00:40:40,173 Speaker 2: got to do it shortly because in July they're going 740 00:40:40,213 --> 00:40:41,853 Speaker 2: to test mentioned zimbabwee. 741 00:40:43,053 --> 00:40:44,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's right. 742 00:40:44,413 --> 00:40:48,053 Speaker 4: So certainly the coach will have to be named prior 743 00:40:48,093 --> 00:40:51,493 Speaker 4: to that so that he's there for that contract process. 744 00:40:53,013 --> 00:40:56,093 Speaker 3: Yes, And I guess Mike Sandal. 745 00:40:55,773 --> 00:40:58,173 Speaker 4: Will be there, will he He's I've seen him at 746 00:40:58,173 --> 00:41:01,133 Speaker 4: a few of the of the games as well. 747 00:41:01,653 --> 00:41:06,293 Speaker 2: He's the executive director and hands out the boarding passes, 748 00:41:06,293 --> 00:41:08,533 Speaker 2: doesn't he does? 749 00:41:10,133 --> 00:41:13,173 Speaker 4: And yeah, I guess someone from they'll have someone from 750 00:41:13,213 --> 00:41:14,533 Speaker 4: the board there, won't they will. 751 00:41:14,573 --> 00:41:14,893 Speaker 3: They have. 752 00:41:16,493 --> 00:41:19,213 Speaker 2: Probably Dian Nash or Roger Two's on the board cricket. 753 00:41:19,373 --> 00:41:21,373 Speaker 3: They'll have former cricketers who are on the boards. 754 00:41:22,373 --> 00:41:27,493 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, that'll be investigating, all right. I'll do 755 00:41:27,573 --> 00:41:30,333 Speaker 2: some investigating during the week, Jerry. If you can just 756 00:41:30,333 --> 00:41:33,333 Speaker 2: put your feed up, take it easy, have a nice 757 00:41:33,413 --> 00:41:35,733 Speaker 2: gentle Chartie. I know I mentioned that, but I know 758 00:41:35,853 --> 00:41:40,173 Speaker 2: you love you. Chardi's from down there. And I will 759 00:41:40,213 --> 00:41:44,853 Speaker 2: develop a psychometric test for you. 760 00:41:45,133 --> 00:41:52,493 Speaker 4: Am I capable of drinking this extra glass tonight? Argument? 761 00:41:52,933 --> 00:42:01,453 Speaker 4: That's quite true, self true, self control and discipline always always. 762 00:42:01,453 --> 00:42:04,613 Speaker 2: Well, you'll be right, I'm sure, because we'll talk about that, 763 00:42:04,733 --> 00:42:07,813 Speaker 2: we'll talk about the Test match and other things. Is 764 00:42:07,853 --> 00:42:10,653 Speaker 2: plenty going on in the cricket world. Some of it 765 00:42:10,733 --> 00:42:17,573 Speaker 2: is still very hard to untangle from the administrative mesh 766 00:42:17,613 --> 00:42:20,613 Speaker 2: that it's got caught up in, but we'll do our 767 00:42:20,613 --> 00:42:22,493 Speaker 2: best to cover it. You take an eat, you look 768 00:42:22,493 --> 00:42:23,293 Speaker 2: out for the body. 769 00:42:24,013 --> 00:42:32,173 Speaker 3: We'll do what good to chat. Take careful summer. 770 00:42:38,773 --> 00:42:41,413 Speaker 1: For more from news Talks at b Listen live on 771 00:42:41,493 --> 00:42:44,453 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 772 00:42:44,533 --> 00:42:47,093 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio