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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen more meddling and fiddling? The government's

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Speaker 1: housing intensification plan for Auckland. It started at two million

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Speaker 1: new homes, then it became one point six and as

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Speaker 1: I yesterday, it's now one point four has got cock

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Speaker 1: up written all over it. Hamish Firth is the director

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Speaker 1: of the Mount Hobson Group, an urban planning specialist, and

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Speaker 1: is with us. Hamish, good morning to you, Mike. Is

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Speaker 1: it about numbers or not? I mean, are they just

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Speaker 1: making up numbers and pulling them out of there you

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Speaker 1: know where?

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Speaker 2: You know, he's the feel of being being more numbers

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Speaker 2: than being going a Tuesday at the Cozi Club. This

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Speaker 2: is too important, This is far too important for us

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Speaker 2: to be meddling behind the scenes. You know. I can

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Speaker 2: see the people driving over the coimis the bomb Bays

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Speaker 2: right now, their eyes gazing over. They want to They

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Speaker 2: don't want this to be on the front page now.

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Speaker 2: They expect that the people in the room have got

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Speaker 2: a modicum of intelligence and when they launch a plan,

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Speaker 2: it's it's based on common sense, it's based on logic,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to work for Auckland. And quite frankly,

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Speaker 2: this is a shit show.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe. See Bishop, I don't know what you're

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Speaker 1: politics are, but Bishop's a good operator. How's he copped

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Speaker 1: this up so badly?

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Speaker 2: Because this needs to be by Auckland. For Auckland putting

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Speaker 2: a mandate on of two million homes was lunacy of

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Speaker 2: the highest order. From the very beginning. It has been

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Speaker 2: wrongly directed. My advice is of Auckland had the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to do this plan change, to review the district plan,

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Speaker 2: to do what they're meant to do, they wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: come up with a figure of two million, one point

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Speaker 2: six or one point four. They would have done it

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Speaker 2: in a much more measured, measured way. I have to

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Speaker 2: take you back to twenty twenty the National Policy stayedment

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Speaker 2: on urban development. Really simply they said, within two years

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Speaker 2: you need to mandate effectively increases around town centers and

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Speaker 2: railway stations. Quite simple. Six years on and we haven't

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Speaker 2: even achieved that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, hamis appreciate your insight. Like it like

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Speaker 1: the cannabis. Jim for Our Homer's first director of the

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Speaker 1: Mount Hopson Group, urban planning specialist.

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