1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Nineteen to six on newstalks 'B. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Exceptional Marketing for Every Property. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Sports Tuddle with us this evening newstalks 'DB sports news 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: director Clay Wilson and newstok's 'b Rugby commentator Paul Allison, 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: Calcudawa Calder Jack Jack And let's start off with the 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: Warriors this evening ten o'clock. They're up against the Raiders 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: and Clay, it's a tough ask. Are they stuffed without 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Toahu Harris. 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: Ah, stuffed in what context? Stuffed in terms of making 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: the top eight or stuffed in terms of well both 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 3: winning a premiership. In terms of winning a premiership, I 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: think they were already up against it. 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: Winning a premiership is very tricky. 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And making the eight, I don't think so. I 16 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: think the NRL is such an open competition. There's seven 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: rounds to go still and they're only three points out 18 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: of it. I wouldn't be shocked either way. If they 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 3: make it, no surprise. If they don't make it, no 20 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 3: surprise either. Those teams around the eight, inside the eight, 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 3: there's not much between them, and yes, Wiley's a key play. 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: I think they've got enough depth there and enough good 23 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: players in the team they could still make it. 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I mean, I mean that's the thing with 25 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: the worries, right, they might they could or they could 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: be disastered. We never know. There's why we love them, Paul. 27 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: How much do you think they're hurting from losing Tohu 28 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,919 Speaker 1: Harris for the rest of the season. 29 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 4: Oh, that'll hurt them, no doubt about that. Nicol cole 30 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 4: STD's not there tonight. Neis Montoya and Jamal Foggerty's back 31 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: for the Raiders. But you look at where they are 32 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: in the season. They've had seven wins out of seventeen. 33 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 4: Last year you needed thirteen wins to make the top eight. 34 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 4: The previous year you needed fourteen. You go back to 35 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, it was ten wins. So they've got 36 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 4: seven games left and five of those teams are above 37 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: them on the table. We know they're hot and cold. 38 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 4: Sometimes they perform superbly well, other times they're at the 39 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: cellar door, So you really start to wonder whereabouts they 40 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: might be. They need to be consistent. The Raiders are 41 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: in a similar position on the table. Clay's right. I mean, 42 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: they can certainly still make the top eight, but every 43 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: win from here on is pretty well crucial. I think 44 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: they need it least five out of the next seven 45 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: next to win it. And if you don't do that, 46 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: and the fact that, as I said, five of the 47 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 4: remaining seven games they've got teams above them on the table, 48 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 4: it's not going to be an easy ask. And I 49 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: think you talk about Taho Harris, his loss will probably 50 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 4: certainly hurt them. But we've seen in the passmen they 51 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 4: had some key players out. That's when sometimes just sometimes 52 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 4: they performed their best. 53 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 1: Paul, looking at that squad for tomorrow's All Bags match 54 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: against Fiji in San Diego, of course, do you reckon 55 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: there is a risk that Raiser is maybe taking Fiji 56 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: just a little lightly with such a debutante heavy squad. 57 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 4: Well, he's got to play them somewhere. He's picked thirty 58 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: two and it added two more, so he's got thirty four. 59 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: We saw he's very consistent in that English series and 60 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: he has experienced guys and didn't really give any deputantes 61 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 4: a chance apart from Radom and gotta run in that 62 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 4: second Test. This is the opportunity to do it Fiji. Sure, 63 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: they went really well at the World Cup last year. 64 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: They've got a lot of players there from that Fiji 65 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: and drew It super rugby team. This year they played 66 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: Georgia and beat them twenty one twelve. Earlier this month 67 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: they got beaten by the bar Bars, but they haven't 68 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 4: got the same depth of squad as the All Blacks. 69 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: I don't think he's taking a risk. I think he's 70 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 4: doing exactly the right thing. And I think he's got 71 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: to love them somewhere because it doesn't get easier for 72 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 4: the All Blacks after this. This will probably be one 73 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: of the easiest tests that they play in the twenty 74 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: twenty four calendar season. 75 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: Dangerous words there, poor. 76 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: Whill you go? 77 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: Paul I hopefully it doesn't come back and yeah, yeah. 78 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: We'll be clipping up those comments as we speak. Well, 79 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: what is going to be gameplay from having this game 80 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: in San Diego outside of a quick buck. 81 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: Well, every sport in recent memory has been after the 82 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: US market. It's such a massive market financially obviously, the viewers, 83 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: you can attract, sponsorships, all those things. And yes, while 84 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: you might argue that rugby is never going to be 85 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: the NFL the NBA, the EMAILB, you know, the big 86 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: four that dominate in the US and other sports. If 87 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: you can gain even just a chunk, a small chunk 88 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: of that US market, you know there's a lot to 89 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: be gained for ends R for going there right so, 90 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: and for World rugby. If they can increase rugby's presence 91 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: in the US, you know that that increases things for 92 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: rugby globally. So I get why they're doing it. 93 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: I just prefer to say the game and suver. I know, 94 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: I know they're making money. I know this might well 95 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: make them a whole lot more money in the Fijian 96 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: Union than they would if they were hosting this game 97 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: in Fiji. I just it's always going to be a 98 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: massive off broadway sport in the US. They try and 99 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: explain the breakdown, Try and explain, oh, the scrum has 100 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: to reset because this prop didn't have his buying right like, 101 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: try and explain that. 102 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: It's not going to work American football. You know, we 103 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 3: compare American football to rugby. It's just so dominant. 104 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: But it's a spectacle. American football a TV and made 105 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: for TV spectacle. It is arguably better suited to introducing 106 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: it to a new audience. I'm not I love Rugby. 107 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I. 108 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: Guess New Zealand rug in the position they are and 109 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: are looking at, they're really trying to maximize what they're 110 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: doing financially. I mean you only have to look at 111 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: what's going on with the governance stuff right that they're 112 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 3: trying to get financially back on track and this is 113 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: this is part of that, whether some people like it 114 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: or not. I would prefer to see the game in 115 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: Suver as well. I'm sure a lot of Keywis would. 116 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we're back with the U S Talk 117 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: Z'B sports Huddle in a couple of minutes. Clay Wilson 118 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: Paul Allison with us this evening. 119 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: The Friday sports Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, 120 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Unparallel Reach and Results. 121 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: Paul Allison Clay Wilson on the huddle this evening. An 122 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: amazing report from Liam Napier in The Herald Today suggesting 123 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: that Ardie Savia might be set to leave the Hurricanes 124 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: and join Moana Pacifica instead. Paul, what do you think. 125 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 4: Well, my understanding, that's exactly what he wants to do, 126 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 4: and it's just a matter of making that fit. I 127 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: think it's an outstanding decision that Moana Pacifica Ken greb 128 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 4: his services. Obviously he's got some own here atage, born 129 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: in Wellington, one hundred and thirty one games or something 130 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 4: for the Hurricanes already and get a bigger name signing 131 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: for Mowana Pacifica, who have been really mucked around since 132 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 4: they've come into this competition three years ago. They haven't 133 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 4: had a stable home base, that've been shoved around all 134 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: over the place. They finished at the bottom of the 135 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 4: table the first couple of seasons, got four wins this 136 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 4: year and got some big names around them, likes of 137 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: Sir Brian Williams and Michael Jones and Tanomang of the 138 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 4: coach and so they've got some heavyweight players or ex 139 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: players that have got a lot of influence, and Artie 140 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: Savia would be the perfect fit for them to be 141 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 4: able to launch them to another level. I think it's 142 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: a great decision because the Hurricanes, let's face it, they've 143 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 4: got a richer you know, the sport for riches and 144 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: the loose forwards with Lackey and Jose and Shields and 145 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 4: Careffe and Flanders and the like. So they're not going 146 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: to miss him too much. He's an outstanding player. But 147 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what he's going to be met every 148 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: for Minor pacifica than what he probably will be for 149 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: the Hurricane. 150 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can only imagine what it would do for 151 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: that for that franchise class. 152 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm massive, And I think Artie Severe has talked 153 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: about this probably. I'm sure he has spoken about this already, 154 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: about how much you love the concert of Mowana and 155 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: then how he could see himself later in his career 156 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: going there. And I think it makes sense at this 157 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: time where the Hurricanes are performing well and like Paul says, 158 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: are just you know, if there was one position where 159 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: the Hurricanes are spoiled for good players and young players 160 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: that are going to play in that position for years 161 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: to come, it's in the loose forwards. So, you know, 162 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: while disappointing, I'm a Hurricanes follower fan, but I think 163 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: it's a great move for him to go to to Mowaana, 164 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: lead the side and really you know, be a role 165 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: model for the for those youngers. 166 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: So what a leader, man, what a leader he's getting. 167 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean he is already obviously, but for that team, 168 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: you can just imagine that you know what kind of 169 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: influence he's going to have. 170 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, just like you think about the money he will 171 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: have in that team, but also the the ip that 172 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: he brings in terms of into the into the trainings, 173 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: into how they're playing. Those players are just going to 174 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: follow him and watch what he does with so much interest. 175 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: So we are less than a week away now, about 176 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: a week away from the opening ceremony of the Olympics. Paul, 177 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: where is your hype level at building? 178 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: It's starting to build. I'm really quite excited about some 179 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 4: of the New Zealand athletes in Action one hundred and 180 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: ninety five. We've got ninety seven women's spread across twenty 181 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: two different sports. Most of those are actually in team 182 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: sports thirty six footballers and twenty four and rugby sevens. 183 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 4: But we're well covered. I think we've actually got a 184 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: really strong team. And as you get closer in the 185 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: action starts, it's only seven days away, sixteen days of glory. 186 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: They talk about it. I'm really excited by it. I'm 187 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: not quite sure how they're going to get on the 188 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: Sane river though, because I see the Paris met had 189 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 4: a bit of a dip there in the last couple 190 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: of days, and they're saying that if that water isn't 191 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: clear enough to be able to swim in the triathlon, 192 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: is going down to a jew athlon. 193 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: It would be so embarrassed. Again, what do you think 194 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: as your hype level for the games? 195 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Paul building and I think it's one 196 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: of those things here in New Zealand once it starts, 197 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: we get into it because we love our sport and 198 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: we love to see our qe athletes doing well. And 199 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: I agree we've got a pretty strong team. I mean, 200 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: it was so successful, wasn't it in Tokyo. I think 201 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: twenty medals in total, seven goals, and I think we 202 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: could we could achieve the same kind of success. And 203 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: it's not just the Kiwi events, it's it's all everything 204 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: that comes with it. One hundred meters you know, the pool, 205 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 3: the pool, all those things. It's great obviously. 206 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: Becoming an expert of sports that you haven't watched at 207 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: all for the last Yeah, it's. 208 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: The track coming and the rhythm. Yeah, we all become 209 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: experts in sports that we've never watched. So definitely looking 210 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: forward to it with great interest and it's going to 211 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: be a great two and a half weeks. 212 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: Very good. 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