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Speaker 1: Here the get real no all black when this year

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Speaker 1: other than Japan has been convincing FFS, stick to what

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Speaker 1: you know. As you know nothing about rugby. Robertson thought

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Speaker 1: he could walk on water. He can't. Thumbs down, thumbs down.

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Speaker 1: Jason Pine's sports talk host does actually know about rugby,

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Speaker 1: and he's with May piney well.

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Speaker 2: At the risk of receiving a similar text, I actually

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Speaker 2: think I actually agree with you. I think there's a

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Speaker 2: lot to like about the progress of Scott Robertson's All

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Speaker 2: Blacks throughout.

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Speaker 1: This year because I mean, let's be honest, at the

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Speaker 1: start it was pretty bad, right. We looked at and

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Speaker 1: we were like, oh, jeez, give the guy. Cut the

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Speaker 1: guy some slack. But it's a lot of slack. We're

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Speaker 1: gutting him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was what was a four and three?

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Speaker 2: Were they? They were after the first seven tests of the

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Speaker 2: year they had won forur and lost three. You know,

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Speaker 2: we're fifty to fifty there or thereabouts, and as you say,

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Speaker 2: but for a point yesterday morning would be would be

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Speaker 2: looking at seven and zero to back end the year.

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Speaker 2: We're not. Of course, France did enough to win the

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Speaker 2: game yesterday. A couple of interesting things for me. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure why they took cam Roygard off when they did. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: It just seemed odd to me that he, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he was playing well like he's and unleash they're managing

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Speaker 2: his minutes, which they haven't said they are on his

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Speaker 2: return from injury. I just would have just left the

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Speaker 2: guy on.

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Speaker 1: Because it brook puff did he did not.

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Speaker 2: Look puffed, And hindsight's always twenty twenty. Yeah, that as

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Speaker 2: we know. But I think I think Cortez Latima had

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Speaker 2: had a challenging thirty minutes at Cameroy Guard. If you

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Speaker 2: looked at the two of them, he acquitted himself a

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Speaker 2: lot better than Courtiz Latima. I would have left him

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Speaker 2: on at least until the sixty fifth minute. And I

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Speaker 2: often wonder if a half back's playing well, well, do

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Speaker 2: he just leave the guy on? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I take your point, right, stop stop kind of sticking

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Speaker 1: to the script and be a little bit more nimble.

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Speaker 1: But also there was a suggestion I heard today that

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Speaker 1: call to go for two penalties rather than a try

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Speaker 1: came from Razor up in the box.

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Speaker 2: Is that a fact or not that Well, I've heard

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Speaker 2: that suggested too, And actually Elliott Smith mentioned it in

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Speaker 2: commentary because the All Backs coaches were right behind where

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Speaker 2: they were calling the game from. Yeah, and so I

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Speaker 2: think he got that got that sense from being in

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Speaker 2: and around the coaching box. It is possible that the

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Speaker 2: message got down because is a you know, they can

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Speaker 2: they're in comms with the guys on the sideline. They

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Speaker 2: can get a message out. Although in the postmatch Razer

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Speaker 2: said we back Scott Barrett to make the right calls

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Speaker 2: out there. So yeah, there's there's a bit of confusion

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Speaker 2: about who actually has the final say. I think it's

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Speaker 2: the on field captain, right. I feel like they are

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Speaker 2: the ones who have the final say. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't think there's absolute clarity on who made the call yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what's going on here? So Doug Bracewell has tested

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Speaker 1: positive for cocaine and been suspended for a month. Is

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Speaker 1: he playing domestic cricket?

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Speaker 2: Is he well? This was this was at the back

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Speaker 2: end of last summer. Yeah, he tested positive for cocaine

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Speaker 2: after a game against Wellington back in January. Deemed to

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Speaker 2: have used it outside of competition. In fact, apparently was

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Speaker 2: after a game that that CD won and he played

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Speaker 2: pretty well, and so not related to sports performance. Test

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Speaker 2: a positive for cocaine one month ban a question, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's not related to performance.

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Speaker 1: Why are we testing for it?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's well, because it's against the sports integrity rules.

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Speaker 2: Is the answer to that. No, I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree. If it's not performance enhancing, then then

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Speaker 2: you're right, why are we testing for it? It is

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Speaker 2: to do with integrity and that sort of thing. The

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Speaker 2: problem I have, Heather is that you know, you get

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Speaker 2: this line trotted out, Well, they're role models for our kids.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'd prefer to be a role model

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Speaker 2: for my children. Then leave it in the hands of

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Speaker 2: Doug Bracewall. Pony.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking exactly that. I was like, no, parents

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Speaker 1: are role models for kids. I mean, if you want to,

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Speaker 1: if you, I entirely agree with you. And I think

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Speaker 1: that we have to allow these people to just be humans,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like I'm not saying go out and snort

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Speaker 1: some cocaine, but I am saying they are going to

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Speaker 1: make mistakes from time to time, and I think I

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Speaker 1: think we're elevating them far beyond their actual status.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree, totally agree.

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Speaker 1: Piney, thank you. I'm going to put that guy on

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Speaker 1: to you who sent me that nasty text. Thank giving

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Speaker 1: you a personal number so I can hit you up

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Speaker 1: as well. Piney, thank you. That's Jason Pine's sports stalk

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