WEBVTT - Ganesh Raj: Getting over convenience food 0:00:05.761 --> 0:00:09.681 You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from News Talk SEDB. 0:00:12.761 --> 0:00:25.641 Take them when ms start. 0:00:27.721 --> 0:00:42.841 No, Yes, welcome back to the Weekend Collective. 0:00:42.881 --> 0:00:45.721 I'm Tim Beveraging Texture Feedback anytime on nine two, nine two, 0:00:45.841 --> 0:00:47.921 and but of course we want your calls this hour 0:00:48.001 --> 0:00:50.921 on our one hundred and eighty ten eighty because this 0:00:51.081 --> 0:00:52.441 is the Health Hub. And we're got a little bit 0:00:52.441 --> 0:00:55.201 of a chat about a couple of things, and I 0:00:55.201 --> 0:00:57.441 think they sort of dovetail into each other. Oh, I've 0:00:57.441 --> 0:01:00.401 got to stop using that word dovetail. But anyway, but 0:01:00.441 --> 0:01:03.481 there's this endless choice of processed foods, and you know 0:01:03.521 --> 0:01:05.641 that process foods question. When I think of process foods, 0:01:05.641 --> 0:01:08.841 I think of the confirmation of RFK over in America. 0:01:08.881 --> 0:01:11.001 But let's not talk about that. That's me distracting myself. 0:01:11.041 --> 0:01:13.401 But he's against the processed foods. And we hear a 0:01:13.401 --> 0:01:18.001 lot how bad processed foods are. And I guess it's 0:01:18.001 --> 0:01:20.841 also harder if you don't realize, you know, how those 0:01:20.841 --> 0:01:23.281 foods are processed. There might be a big difference between 0:01:24.801 --> 0:01:26.801 certain meals that you can buy where that things are 0:01:26.881 --> 0:01:29.801 highly processed and buying maybe I don't know of can 0:01:29.881 --> 0:01:32.681 of Italian sort of pasta source which may be not 0:01:32.761 --> 0:01:35.041 as bad, but I don't know. But of course one 0:01:35.041 --> 0:01:39.881 of the things that's worth getting to know is what's 0:01:39.961 --> 0:01:45.841 on those labels, the ingredient list, the back and the 0:01:45.841 --> 0:01:47.761 the preseratives that, oh, I can't even is that the 0:01:47.801 --> 0:01:50.201 preservatives that they use when it see as we use 0:01:50.281 --> 0:01:52.201 this preservative numbers such and such. 0:01:52.041 --> 0:01:53.161 And various fillers. 0:01:53.761 --> 0:01:57.121 So is there a way of understanding the ingredients which 0:01:57.121 --> 0:02:01.161 can help you make better choices? And along those lines 0:02:01.201 --> 0:02:02.881 as well, we're also going to have a chat about 0:02:03.081 --> 0:02:05.761 just making good meals from canned foods, which should almost 0:02:05.801 --> 0:02:07.321 give you a clue as to who our guest is 0:02:07.361 --> 0:02:09.241 going to be. But the clue, of course, was given 0:02:09.281 --> 0:02:10.721 when I started the show at three o'clock and I 0:02:10.721 --> 0:02:12.601 said it would be the co host of Eat Well 0:02:12.681 --> 0:02:14.561 for Less, And it's ganesh Rash and he's with me now. 0:02:15.001 --> 0:02:17.601 Good afternoon, Good afternoon, sir. How are you today? 0:02:17.641 --> 0:02:18.041 Excellent? 0:02:18.081 --> 0:02:20.161 Have you had some sort of break over the summer 0:02:20.321 --> 0:02:20.641 or you. 0:02:20.961 --> 0:02:23.801 Yeah, absolutely, I am very good with my breaks. 0:02:23.801 --> 0:02:25.761 Excellent. You've actually you're just in the middle of doing 0:02:25.761 --> 0:02:27.881 another filming another season I beat wellfull ys? 0:02:27.921 --> 0:02:29.881 An't you absolutely? So we filmed a little bit of 0:02:29.921 --> 0:02:33.201 it before before the New Year, before the Christmas break. Yeah, 0:02:33.241 --> 0:02:36.601 and then we're filming another set now. And everything you're 0:02:36.641 --> 0:02:41.641 saying is so spot on with what I'm experiencing right 0:02:41.761 --> 0:02:42.361 this second. 0:02:42.481 --> 0:02:44.641 What a relief because what you did there was you paused, 0:02:44.641 --> 0:02:47.121 you said. Everything you're saying is just I'm. 0:02:46.921 --> 0:02:52.041 Like, oh, but it isn't it's time, but it is. 0:02:52.441 --> 0:02:55.241 But it is one of those I do read ingredient lists, 0:02:55.281 --> 0:03:00.761 but usually it's on a one example, Okay, I can 0:03:00.801 --> 0:03:03.481 of tomatoes, just to see where they've stuck, whether they're 0:03:03.521 --> 0:03:07.161 Sultan or something, or maybe a can of spaghetti or 0:03:07.201 --> 0:03:09.481 some sort of sauce or. 0:03:09.601 --> 0:03:11.881 What are you looking for when you look at the back. 0:03:12.121 --> 0:03:18.041 Usually I'm just curious to know how many basic ingredients 0:03:18.081 --> 0:03:21.521 I recognize, and if most of the ingredients, if not 0:03:21.561 --> 0:03:23.801 all of them, are simply look, it's just tomatoes. It's 0:03:23.801 --> 0:03:25.521 a bit of chipotle sauce, it's a bit of this 0:03:25.641 --> 0:03:30.521 than that, and sodium. But usually i'm sometimes oh, okay, 0:03:30.521 --> 0:03:33.641 the last time I did it was on stock and 0:03:33.841 --> 0:03:36.201 my wife buys was. 0:03:36.121 --> 0:03:39.721 This vacuum pack stock or the mass It's actually not 0:03:39.801 --> 0:03:40.801 checker boxes. 0:03:41.521 --> 0:03:43.401 It's little cubes of stock. 0:03:43.441 --> 0:03:44.121 Oh understood. 0:03:44.241 --> 0:03:47.681 And I was thinking how much salt is in the 0:03:47.721 --> 0:03:51.201 low assault version versus the salted version, Because I'll be 0:03:51.241 --> 0:03:53.441 honest with you, I go, well, actually, the lower salted 0:03:53.481 --> 0:03:54.961 Version'm probably going to have to add a little sprinkle 0:03:54.961 --> 0:03:57.081 of salt just for my taste. And so I look 0:03:57.121 --> 0:03:58.841 at it and go how much different is it? And 0:03:58.881 --> 0:04:00.481 then I have a chat with my wife and say, 0:04:00.481 --> 0:04:04.761 maybe just buy the normal version, but it's usually it's 0:04:04.761 --> 0:04:06.841 still a cup. What the salt and sugar content is? 0:04:07.121 --> 0:04:09.841 I mean, the fact that you're actually doing that alone 0:04:09.881 --> 0:04:12.921 sets you apart from a lot of people, because you 0:04:12.961 --> 0:04:16.201 know basic, You're looking for basic things you can identify with, 0:04:16.681 --> 0:04:18.761 and since preservatives. 0:04:18.081 --> 0:04:20.601 Four five seven six five three four five nine, I'm like, 0:04:20.681 --> 0:04:23.401 you're suspicious, don't like it? That's right, that's right. 0:04:23.441 --> 0:04:25.681 And I think that's a good instinct for everyone to 0:04:25.801 --> 0:04:31.361 carry into their supermarket shop, that type of suspicion, especially 0:04:31.401 --> 0:04:35.321 with anything that comes in cans, such as tomato sauces, 0:04:35.361 --> 0:04:38.721 such as pasta sauces. None of those things, a lot 0:04:38.761 --> 0:04:41.521 of those things have over a quarter of sugar twenty 0:04:41.521 --> 0:04:43.721 five grams per hundred grams. 0:04:43.801 --> 0:04:46.361 Actually narrows it down really mostly I'm looking for sugar 0:04:46.361 --> 0:04:47.441 and salt immediately. 0:04:47.761 --> 0:04:49.041 Those are alarms. 0:04:49.081 --> 0:04:51.201 Cereals is another one. Yes, I did it the other 0:04:51.241 --> 0:04:54.921 day because I make my own granola sometimes and I 0:04:55.001 --> 0:04:57.561 know how much sugar it is on because I make it, 0:04:57.641 --> 0:05:00.241 and there's you know, it's tasty, it's sweet, it's lovely. 0:05:00.281 --> 0:05:01.561 But you did it to yourself. 0:05:01.841 --> 0:05:07.521 Yes, for instance, neutral rain, historically I don't have. They've 0:05:07.601 --> 0:05:10.561 changed it, but we're on holiday and my wife just said, oh, look, 0:05:10.601 --> 0:05:12.841 let's just get you neutral grain because we normally they're 0:05:13.001 --> 0:05:15.281 generally pretty healthy. And I thought, how much sugar does 0:05:15.321 --> 0:05:15.761 that still have? 0:05:15.881 --> 0:05:19.161 And You're like, it's a lot, isn't it, isn't it? 0:05:19.601 --> 0:05:21.521 And I'm so glad you brought this up so I 0:05:21.561 --> 0:05:23.401 don't have to be that guy all the time. 0:05:23.721 --> 0:05:26.121 Oh but it'll be the devil. 0:05:26.921 --> 0:05:29.121 I mean, it's not even it's the fact that it's 0:05:29.161 --> 0:05:33.561 happening around us. So obviously. Another one is you raised 0:05:33.601 --> 0:05:35.921 it just now and we just had this revelation for 0:05:35.961 --> 0:05:39.401 a family just a few weeks ago. They bought these 0:05:39.801 --> 0:05:42.841 fourteen dollars for four hundred and fifty grams of pre 0:05:43.001 --> 0:05:47.921 made organic fried chicken tenders in a box. 0:05:48.361 --> 0:05:50.241 Right, hang on, hold it, hold it described. 0:05:49.921 --> 0:05:53.761 By thirteen ninety nine for four hundred grams of organic 0:05:54.801 --> 0:05:59.641 convenience for chicken tenders, call it convenience chicken tenders organic. 0:06:00.041 --> 0:06:01.001 What's the chicken tender? 0:06:01.441 --> 0:06:04.561 It's those long strips that come off, you know that 0:06:04.001 --> 0:06:08.401 they cut the crumb and the very popular with kids, 0:06:08.761 --> 0:06:13.521 very popular with And it was with deep regret that 0:06:13.561 --> 0:06:15.561 I had to tell her that it was only fifty 0:06:15.641 --> 0:06:19.961 nine percent chicken. And it's said it was the first 0:06:20.001 --> 0:06:22.201 item on the back of the box. I wasn't making 0:06:22.241 --> 0:06:25.081 it up. She just people don't was that. 0:06:25.121 --> 0:06:28.161 Of course that have been because the way they crumbed it, 0:06:28.361 --> 0:06:28.921 they crumbed. 0:06:28.921 --> 0:06:31.041 It's just things that sit in a box in a 0:06:31.081 --> 0:06:35.121 freezer of proteins attached to them are going to have 0:06:35.241 --> 0:06:40.241 fillers and preservatives. That's just the game it's in. It's 0:06:40.241 --> 0:06:42.121 not a fault. It's that mechanism. 0:06:42.721 --> 0:06:46.961 But so, so, just to clarify, yes, sir, so it's 0:06:46.961 --> 0:06:49.761 not that they have with the so I'm kissing that 0:06:49.921 --> 0:06:52.481 where they crumbed or something. Yes, okay, So it's not 0:06:52.521 --> 0:06:55.121 a case of that they've added stuff to all the crumbs. 0:06:55.281 --> 0:06:58.161 They've actually they've shoved stuff to the chicken as well, 0:06:58.201 --> 0:07:00.761 like this when you when you're eating the chicken. 0:07:01.161 --> 0:07:04.721 The meat itself would have been a combination of chicken 0:07:04.761 --> 0:07:10.921 meat and soy filler, then blended together along with various flavorings, preservatives, 0:07:10.961 --> 0:07:14.681 and texture supplements so that all the sponginess is what 0:07:14.721 --> 0:07:19.121 you love. I mean, food science is a huge thing. 0:07:19.281 --> 0:07:21.241 And I guess the thing is, but I just want 0:07:21.241 --> 0:07:22.561 to finish ount go go. 0:07:22.721 --> 0:07:26.041 Just to make it worse, four hundred grams four hundred 0:07:26.041 --> 0:07:29.161 and fifty grams was about fourteen dollars. Now we know 0:07:29.241 --> 0:07:34.561 that only sixty percent of that was actually chicken, So 0:07:34.721 --> 0:07:38.961 now we're really paying for the fourteen dollars. I don't 0:07:38.961 --> 0:07:40.681 know what the math is, but two hundred and two 0:07:40.761 --> 0:07:43.881 hundred grams t fifty grams? Serdadly, get a cooked chick 0:07:44.001 --> 0:07:47.241 now in a supermarket is fourteen dollars? 0:07:47.401 --> 0:07:47.761 Yeah? 0:07:47.801 --> 0:07:50.361 A COOKEOK? Ready to go without nonsense? 0:07:50.561 --> 0:07:50.761 You know? 0:07:51.001 --> 0:07:54.601 Yeah. Look, well we're about to continue this conversation and 0:07:54.881 --> 0:07:56.561 a lot more detail, but we want to hear your 0:07:56.601 --> 0:07:59.081 calls as well on this. I eight one hundred eighty 0:07:59.081 --> 0:08:02.281 ten eighty do you actually read the labels? 0:08:02.681 --> 0:08:04.881 Be something? First? And what are you looking for when 0:08:04.881 --> 0:08:06.041 you read the labels, do you. 0:08:06.081 --> 0:08:07.961 Know what it is? Because the other side of that 0:08:08.001 --> 0:08:09.801 would the question I was dying to jump in with 0:08:09.841 --> 0:08:13.921 you there, Ganesh was. With all the amazing food technology 0:08:13.961 --> 0:08:19.481 that there is, there will be options which may look well, 0:08:19.601 --> 0:08:22.121 you might consider be unhealthy. But are there healthy ways 0:08:22.161 --> 0:08:24.801 of things that they're doing with food to make food 0:08:24.841 --> 0:08:25.401 go further? 0:08:25.721 --> 0:08:29.721 Yes, frozen frozen has been one of the greatest revelations 0:08:29.761 --> 0:08:33.281 of our time. Snap freezing something means that. But people 0:08:33.281 --> 0:08:38.761 can know buy vegetables perfectly snap frozen and use only 0:08:38.801 --> 0:08:41.761 what you need and put the rest back into the freezer. 0:08:41.881 --> 0:08:47.601 Waste will come down a ton frozen spinach, frozen bags. Also, 0:08:47.681 --> 0:08:50.961 they're tremendous time savers because all the prep's been done 0:08:50.961 --> 0:08:54.121 for you. So I promote frozen in a big way, 0:08:54.321 --> 0:08:57.961 and that technology of snap freezing and making it safe 0:08:58.681 --> 0:09:00.481 has provided all of us with. 0:09:01.161 --> 0:09:03.721 Oh, I was meaning something a little different. I was thinking, 0:09:03.721 --> 0:09:06.481 for instance, you can go to the supermarket and buy 0:09:06.721 --> 0:09:10.441 dairy free ice cream because they have or there are 0:09:11.041 --> 0:09:16.521 there's technology around manipulating fermentine proteins to make dairy products. So, 0:09:16.681 --> 0:09:19.041 for instance, is there a version where they might do 0:09:19.161 --> 0:09:21.681 that with chicken where they might have some of it. Okay, 0:09:21.681 --> 0:09:23.761 some of it's real chicken, and the other is something 0:09:23.841 --> 0:09:27.161 we have cleverly managed through science to create which is 0:09:27.241 --> 0:09:31.001 not bad for you, absolutely, And how would you know, Well, 0:09:31.041 --> 0:09:32.881 it'd be on the back, it would seem How would 0:09:32.881 --> 0:09:33.881 you know if it was good for you or not? 0:09:34.121 --> 0:09:36.401 You would have to check it out yourself. And this 0:09:36.481 --> 0:09:41.001 is how this whole game is played essentially. I think 0:09:41.041 --> 0:09:43.521 if I was them, I would be striving for something 0:09:43.561 --> 0:09:47.041 that tasted like chicken but didn't cost me a lot. Yeah, 0:09:47.081 --> 0:09:50.361 because I'm giving you fifty nine percent chicken. Please enjoy that. 0:09:51.561 --> 0:09:53.321 Did you taste those things? By the way, I have. 0:09:53.441 --> 0:09:56.761 Tasted them before, and I do need to taste them again. Okay, 0:09:56.841 --> 0:09:59.401 I'm good, I'm good. I just encourage people not to 0:09:59.441 --> 0:10:01.881 give it to their kids, yeah, or their families. 0:10:02.001 --> 0:10:03.721 What is actually what is the thing with soy? 0:10:04.161 --> 0:10:04.721 What do you mean? 0:10:05.641 --> 0:10:07.921 What's the you said it was a soy? 0:10:08.001 --> 0:10:11.161 What don't confuse soy filler and tofu and all of that. 0:10:11.321 --> 0:10:12.561 Okay, what a soy filler? 0:10:12.841 --> 0:10:18.321 Soy filler is essentially using so soy is a compound? Yeah, right, 0:10:18.441 --> 0:10:22.401 tofu is a manifestation of soy, And there's so many 0:10:22.441 --> 0:10:26.681 types of tofia of how you set this soy protein 0:10:26.761 --> 0:10:30.361 compound and in its raw form, you know, it can 0:10:30.401 --> 0:10:32.841 be a powder. It can they can add chemicals to 0:10:32.881 --> 0:10:34.481 it to bulk it up, and that's what they use 0:10:34.521 --> 0:10:36.721 it for. They use it as a bulking agent. A 0:10:36.761 --> 0:10:39.361 lot of people do that. It's a it's a food 0:10:39.401 --> 0:10:40.161 scientist dream. 0:10:40.521 --> 0:10:42.921 And when you are looking at a packet, does it 0:10:43.041 --> 0:10:47.761 say is the clove fifty nine percent chicken? Because some 0:10:47.841 --> 0:10:49.681 might say, well, the risk must be crumbs, The risk 0:10:49.761 --> 0:10:53.481 must be crumbs and flour, or is the cloth another 0:10:53.681 --> 0:10:54.761 ingredient they've named in there? 0:10:54.761 --> 0:10:56.321 It doesn't actually say soy filler. 0:10:56.681 --> 0:11:00.201 Well, let me ask you this. It's a piece of chicken. 0:11:00.881 --> 0:11:03.401 Let's pretend we take off the crumbs underneath it is 0:11:03.441 --> 0:11:04.761 this beige yellow. 0:11:05.481 --> 0:11:08.361 I've gotcha now, I just wanted to do they say soyfeller. 0:11:08.601 --> 0:11:11.081 No, they don't. So the first item on the back 0:11:11.281 --> 0:11:14.561 is always chicken in brackets fifty nine to sixty whatever, 0:11:14.721 --> 0:11:18.121 So they're upfront in terms of the first number. Then 0:11:18.161 --> 0:11:22.961 there's about twenty four ingredients after that which I cannot 0:11:23.041 --> 0:11:28.681 recognize and numbers. So I'm going to assume that you are, 0:11:28.721 --> 0:11:31.081 you know, and so ifil I've seen on other other 0:11:31.161 --> 0:11:34.641 companies have been more upfront about the word soyfiller. So 0:11:34.721 --> 0:11:37.401 I have seen that with other brands. So this is 0:11:37.441 --> 0:11:41.201 the thing, you know, just telling people to be aware 0:11:41.201 --> 0:11:43.161 of that is the best we can do. And then 0:11:43.201 --> 0:11:45.801 you make decisions. But I always point back to the 0:11:45.841 --> 0:11:48.161 whole chicken that I just said, a fourteen dollars cook 0:11:48.241 --> 0:11:51.241 choke in a SuperM Well that's all day. Just by 0:11:51.561 --> 0:11:53.921 just by cook chook for fourteen you've spent the same 0:11:53.961 --> 0:11:56.881 So anyway, you know, I'm just promoting people in that direction. 0:11:57.161 --> 0:12:01.601 Well, the other thing is if you're looking for, for instance, 0:12:01.641 --> 0:12:05.721 you're looking for chicken tinder crumbed, I don't want to 0:12:05.721 --> 0:12:09.041 be because you know, sometimes it's a dangerous these things 0:12:08.801 --> 0:12:12.801 that sounds like not you but that people lecture people 0:12:12.801 --> 0:12:16.441 about felt how easy it is to prepare things from scratch. 0:12:16.801 --> 0:12:21.801 But seriously, crumbed chicken tenders are pretty easy to do. 0:12:21.921 --> 0:12:22.361 What do you do? 0:12:22.401 --> 0:12:24.241 Probably crack a bit of egg and a bowl, mix 0:12:24.281 --> 0:12:26.161 it up and roll it, roll the chicken and that 0:12:26.281 --> 0:12:28.321 and then and the bread crumbs and bengo, you're done. 0:12:28.441 --> 0:12:30.401 But you've gone too far. Now you've done the thing 0:12:30.401 --> 0:12:32.841 that you said you wouldn't do. You've added an extra step. 0:12:33.601 --> 0:12:36.521 Just no, let's not talk about crumb chicken. Let's just 0:12:36.561 --> 0:12:41.281 go don't worry about it and just buy the chicken. Yeah, 0:12:41.361 --> 0:12:44.201 like you went for convenience. Like convenience is the word 0:12:44.201 --> 0:12:45.961 I've heard so much in the last two weeks from 0:12:46.041 --> 0:12:50.161 very busy parents who've given up hope, unfortunately, and are 0:12:50.161 --> 0:12:52.081 trying to bring it back by learning how to cook. 0:12:52.761 --> 0:12:55.721 But you know that idea of convenience is still fulfilled 0:12:55.801 --> 0:12:59.481 by buying a cooked chalk except it to real chicken 0:12:59.521 --> 0:13:03.081 and all of it's there, and mix sandwiches and options 0:13:03.081 --> 0:13:03.561 options go. 0:13:03.881 --> 0:13:06.921 What are the other What are some other food traps 0:13:06.961 --> 0:13:08.601 where people think, oh, look, I'm just going to get 0:13:08.641 --> 0:13:11.321 this tonight and it's it says it's this, and I'll 0:13:11.361 --> 0:13:12.361 just bang up the frying panel. 0:13:12.361 --> 0:13:13.001 It'll be all done. 0:13:13.241 --> 0:13:14.921 One are the others? So we've got the fifty nine 0:13:14.921 --> 0:13:17.201 percent chicken one. Have you got any other examples that 0:13:17.241 --> 0:13:19.761 spring to mind? On on if he sort. 0:13:19.601 --> 0:13:25.321 Of if he's sort of well misconceptions definitely, like can goods, 0:13:25.321 --> 0:13:28.921 for example, Yeah, can goods you've got to You've got 0:13:28.961 --> 0:13:33.441 to separate it because there's things like tuna and chicken 0:13:33.481 --> 0:13:35.881 in a can, which is no problem at all. Yeah, 0:13:35.921 --> 0:13:37.961 you know, tuna and water. Now you know there's really 0:13:37.961 --> 0:13:41.441 healthy versions of all of that stuff. Salmon, chicken, those 0:13:41.481 --> 0:13:43.961 are fine. Fruit is the one that you've got to 0:13:44.001 --> 0:13:47.961 watch out for. I always look for clear juice, never 0:13:48.041 --> 0:13:48.681 in syrup. 0:13:49.601 --> 0:13:51.761 But if you are syrup, know that you're buying it 0:13:51.761 --> 0:13:53.921 in syrup at least at least it's labeled as opposed 0:13:53.921 --> 0:13:55.641 to it used to the good old days was just 0:13:55.681 --> 0:13:56.841 like canned peatures. 0:13:57.361 --> 0:13:59.961 I hear you, I hear you, and and you know, 0:14:00.201 --> 0:14:02.081 no one said the syrup wasn't delicious. 0:14:04.681 --> 0:14:06.441 I mean, I think that's the thing. Look, if you 0:14:06.481 --> 0:14:08.601 are hardly ever eating that stuff, yeah, it's a true, 0:14:08.641 --> 0:14:11.001 it's a true and it's a tree that Yeah. 0:14:10.841 --> 0:14:13.201 I completely buy that. It's when it becomes like a 0:14:13.241 --> 0:14:16.601 habit and part of like an afternoon tea that two 0:14:16.681 --> 0:14:18.761 children are having every day, or you know what I mean. 0:14:19.241 --> 0:14:22.001 There's habits that parents fall into, because what I find 0:14:22.081 --> 0:14:24.041 is when parents find things that work for them, they 0:14:24.161 --> 0:14:27.721 just rinse and repeat because you know, life is stressful enough. 0:14:28.041 --> 0:14:30.161 You did it yesterday and your brain's a bit short 0:14:30.201 --> 0:14:32.041 because you've been worrying about X, Y and Z and 0:14:32.041 --> 0:14:33.801 you just think, oh, I just bug eyves in the panic. 0:14:34.001 --> 0:14:36.681 Yeah, you know. And the market loves it, the word 0:14:36.721 --> 0:14:40.361 convenience food and the way they're you know, the these 0:14:40.401 --> 0:14:45.401 boxes of mac and cheese that are frozen that when 0:14:45.481 --> 0:14:48.601 you open it up deeply so specious of those, Yes, 0:14:48.721 --> 0:14:51.441 but I know people that have bought, you know, packets 0:14:51.441 --> 0:14:53.881 of them to last all five days of the week 0:14:54.201 --> 0:14:59.041 as lunches and because it's convenient. It's so the word 0:14:59.121 --> 0:15:04.121 convenience has just clouded what is kind of good for 0:15:04.201 --> 0:15:07.601 you it's convenient, versus what is not good for you 0:15:07.681 --> 0:15:10.801 that's convenient, you know what I mean, Like the good 0:15:10.841 --> 0:15:15.041 for your stuff becomes like you said, preachy, Yeah. 0:15:14.401 --> 0:15:17.361 Well it does. And yet the shame is is that 0:15:17.441 --> 0:15:20.121 when people actually do make the effort to follow up 0:15:20.121 --> 0:15:22.401 on that advice, it does open up a whole new 0:15:22.441 --> 0:15:25.801 world of just well, the process of cooking, for one, 0:15:27.441 --> 0:15:29.801 I find and I think most I think most people, 0:15:29.841 --> 0:15:32.841 if they get into the process of cooking, enjoy it. 0:15:32.841 --> 0:15:35.241 It's quite fulfilling. It's almost like a meditation. And it 0:15:35.241 --> 0:15:37.481 doesn't need to be something that's going to take five hours. 0:15:37.761 --> 0:15:40.841 It can be something pretty simple, and I think that's 0:15:41.161 --> 0:15:43.761 trying to get people from that habit of I mean, 0:15:44.121 --> 0:15:47.081 the habit of just grabbing that thing off the shelf, 0:15:47.161 --> 0:15:50.601 slapping on the pan and then adding, you know whatever 0:15:50.641 --> 0:15:52.801 the rice or is that you go with it, to 0:15:53.001 --> 0:15:55.641 actually doing something that just takes maybe a bit more thought. 0:15:55.881 --> 0:15:57.441 But you know that's the thing. You don't want it 0:15:57.481 --> 0:15:59.361 to be a whole lot more thought. Do you want 0:15:59.361 --> 0:16:00.641 it to be fairly straightforward? 0:16:00.881 --> 0:16:04.481 And the convenience market knows every button to push, for example, 0:16:04.641 --> 0:16:07.241 my weave little perfect contenas of race. 0:16:07.721 --> 0:16:10.761 I'm very I can't stand that. Come on, just stick 0:16:10.801 --> 0:16:11.961 some rice and lemon pie. 0:16:12.001 --> 0:16:14.481 I always say when someone when her phone Uncle when 0:16:14.481 --> 0:16:17.681 her phone Uncle Ben's in somebody's shopping trolley. You know 0:16:17.721 --> 0:16:18.241 what I do. 0:16:18.761 --> 0:16:20.481 Now, we're just turning around to look at my producer 0:16:20.521 --> 0:16:23.321 because you up at the keyboard when I mentioned microwave packets, 0:16:23.361 --> 0:16:25.041 and I thought, don't tell me you're guilty. 0:16:25.241 --> 0:16:25.761 But she's not. 0:16:25.841 --> 0:16:27.681 No, she's not very healthy. 0:16:28.961 --> 0:16:33.761 Yeap, definitely. Anyway, hey, look anyway, so anyway, just to finish, 0:16:33.761 --> 0:16:36.601 but yeah, I always say Uncle Ben's has the largest 0:16:36.961 --> 0:16:41.121 largest villa in the Bahamas thanks to you. Yes, well, 0:16:41.161 --> 0:16:42.521 because he saw so much of that. 0:16:43.801 --> 0:16:44.321 Actually, what is. 0:16:44.361 --> 0:16:45.081 Uncle Ben's rice? 0:16:45.121 --> 0:16:45.401 What is it? 0:16:45.441 --> 0:16:45.921 What makes it? 0:16:46.001 --> 0:16:47.841 Something that's I'm going to get into, but I'm just 0:16:47.841 --> 0:16:49.961 going to say, like you said, just cook some rice. 0:16:50.081 --> 0:16:52.761 Yeah, we love your calls on this though, the first 0:16:52.881 --> 0:16:56.281 question is do you understand have you made an effort 0:16:56.401 --> 0:16:58.601 to understand labels on food? 0:17:00.001 --> 0:17:00.681 If not, why not? 0:17:00.721 --> 0:17:02.561 I could say, which sounds like I'm sitting you down 0:17:02.601 --> 0:17:05.281 for talking to But do you understand them? Because and 0:17:05.361 --> 0:17:08.281 how much effort do you take to read the labels 0:17:08.281 --> 0:17:09.841 of things? And if you are taking the effort to 0:17:09.841 --> 0:17:12.121 read it, what are you actually looking for when it 0:17:12.161 --> 0:17:15.321 comes to making your decisions? Because not everything that comes 0:17:15.321 --> 0:17:18.881 in a packet or a can is bad news. Everything's 0:17:18.961 --> 0:17:21.081 packaged to get our attention, whether it be the most 0:17:21.121 --> 0:17:25.041 wholesome food. Okay, the fruit and vegas out on display anyway, 0:17:26.081 --> 0:17:28.401 But not all food that is packaged for our attention 0:17:28.841 --> 0:17:30.801 is necessarily bad. So what do you look for? Do 0:17:30.881 --> 0:17:34.801 you know the difference between this is great and not 0:17:34.921 --> 0:17:38.121 so good? Fifty nine percent chicken? That's the cats phrase. 0:17:38.761 --> 0:17:41.081 It always sounds like a slogan, isn't it. Hey with 0:17:41.201 --> 0:17:44.361 our product. We're fifty nine percent real chicken. What about 0:17:44.361 --> 0:17:46.361 the rest? I eight hundred eight ten eight. I love 0:17:46.401 --> 0:17:47.961 your calls on that. I eight hundred eight ten eight. 0:17:48.001 --> 0:17:49.961 In My guest is Ganess Raj, who is in the 0:17:50.001 --> 0:17:53.321 middle of filming eat Well for Less volume series five. 0:17:53.721 --> 0:17:55.641 This is News Talks. He be twenty four past four. 0:18:10.801 --> 0:18:12.881 A's welcome back to the health Harbor on the weekend 0:18:12.921 --> 0:18:15.121 collective onton beverage. You'd love your calls one hundred and 0:18:15.121 --> 0:18:17.401 eighty ten eighty Do you know how to read labels? 0:18:17.681 --> 0:18:19.881 But also if you don't know how to read a label, 0:18:20.041 --> 0:18:22.201 My guest is Ganesh Raj from eat Well for Less, 0:18:23.041 --> 0:18:25.241 and you want to pick a pick brains on something 0:18:25.321 --> 0:18:27.601 you've got in your cupboard right now that you thought 0:18:27.641 --> 0:18:29.081 I thought this was good. I just need to run 0:18:29.121 --> 0:18:30.881 this past Ganesh. We might be able to give you 0:18:30.921 --> 0:18:32.841 a bit of her heads up on that. I do 0:18:32.921 --> 0:18:35.761 have to correct the record with She hasn't asked for 0:18:35.761 --> 0:18:39.361 an apology because she's got a sense of humor. My 0:18:39.441 --> 0:18:43.201 producer and I jokingly said that the ganessh and I 0:18:43.241 --> 0:18:46.201 looked at Tyra to see when we talked about microwave 0:18:46.561 --> 0:18:49.041 rice whether that was one of her evil confessions she 0:18:49.121 --> 0:18:52.601 needed to make. And I realized how wrong it was 0:18:52.641 --> 0:18:56.001 to throw any aspersions around raw and wild foods at Tyra, 0:18:56.121 --> 0:18:58.601 because this is a young woman who even kills her 0:18:58.601 --> 0:19:01.641 own chickens. Ah And I think, as she had a 0:19:01.681 --> 0:19:04.321 story about having to kill a particularly bothersome rooster at 0:19:04.361 --> 0:19:10.161 one stage, and so she literally has her food pretty 0:19:11.001 --> 0:19:13.401 and it's in its sort of natural state, would be 0:19:13.441 --> 0:19:17.441 the default suggestion, I think, Ganesh, you don't know if 0:19:17.561 --> 0:19:19.921 meet many people who say, do I slaughter my own chickens? 0:19:20.281 --> 0:19:23.361 I mean, I don't believe a word of it. Personally, 0:19:25.561 --> 0:19:29.721 everything about her says, oh my nay, just kidding, just kidding, 0:19:30.521 --> 0:19:33.681 just winder, come on, okay, I got some homeworking leader. 0:19:33.801 --> 0:19:35.441 I respect and appreciate. 0:19:35.001 --> 0:19:35.761 Her right now. 0:19:35.801 --> 0:19:38.241 On the rice thing, we were talking just in the 0:19:38.241 --> 0:19:42.401 break about how many many ways to make rice there 0:19:42.441 --> 0:19:43.201 is in my journey. 0:19:43.481 --> 0:19:44.201 It wasn't it journey. 0:19:44.241 --> 0:19:46.841 I was never really into using the Uncle Ben's the 0:19:46.921 --> 0:19:51.001 sachets and the packets and ready mix. But to me, 0:19:51.481 --> 0:19:53.481 it's the one thing. It's got to be the most 0:19:53.521 --> 0:19:56.281