1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Jeremy Hutton's with US Milford Asset Management for our market update. Jeremy, 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: good evening. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: Good evening, Ryan, how are you going very good? 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Thanks? Can we start in the US? SO market's back 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: open overnight after the public holiday Monday. Bit of a 6 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: wobbly over Greenland and Trump. 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. The Cell America trade was back on 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: last night, and the Nasdaq SMP five hundred indexes both 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: down two percent, and our own z X down over 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: one percent as well. So, yeah, a bit of a wobbly. 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: And most importantly that US ten year bond that's broken higher, 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: and you know that's interest rates going up, which is 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: never really a good sign for markets, and politicians start 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: to get nervous too. So maybe even that rate we'll 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: contain some of President Trump's tendencies at the moment. 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Let's go to New Zealand and Zero. This 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: is accounting software business. Of course, everyone knows that sheer 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: price has been under some pressure, fell under the psychological 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars level. What is going on? 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Regarded as one of New Zellen's great companies, Zero 21 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: is going through a bit of a lean pad of 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: late this year. Price is almost halved from its one 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety three dollars peak in June last year, 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,639 Speaker 2: So in just six months it's halved, and it started 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six pretty poorly as well, down over sixteen percent. 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, painful for ZERO investors generally accustomed to lots 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: of success, but Zero has been caught up in a 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: bit of this global software sell down and the sentiments 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: really struggling. And as effectively, it's these recent AI models 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: and they're getting very good at producing basic and good 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: looking software packages that pretty much the touch of a button. 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: So you know, some market commentators out there, they're even 33 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: calling it a potential existential threat to software and SaaS businesses. 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: So Zero is getting a little bit tied up with that. 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: We will follow that this year, you know, as the 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: AI models continue to develop and get a bit smarter, 37 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: we'll see what the impact will have on these software businesses. 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: He was also they did a big act because psition 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: out of the US, didn't they last year, and that 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: hasn't been received well either. 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, more stock specific issue, but it hasn't helped the sentiment. 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: They bought this US payments business called Media paid a 43 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: princely some of two point five billion US dollars, so 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: a big chunky amountain and the market's given that feedback 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: pretty clearly that perhaps they paid a little bit too 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: much for it. But to be fair, you know, the 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: US it's always been been a key geography for zero 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 2: to expand into, and also payments as a technology or 49 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 2: addition to their product. That's that's been the radar too. 50 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: But perhaps they could have done it a little bit 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: more efficiently. So the market is taking its time to 52 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 2: digest this transaction and figure out if it was a 53 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: good deal or not. 54 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: Jeremy, does that mean we should all go out and 55 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: buy shares then. 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: Well that's a million dollar question, Ryan. But you know, 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: no doubt that Zera remains a very high quality company. 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: It's got some great growth runway ahead of it, and 59 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: we know it's had a lot of success in New Zealand, Australia, 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: in the UK. If it cracks the US market in 61 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: its core accounting software, or if this payments expansion goes well, 62 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: then the share price could perform really really strongly. You know, 63 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 2: sometimes markets get a little bit nervous and these great 64 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: opportunities can pop up, but the pressure's really on on 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: the zero management team to restore some of this confidence 66 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: and get and get the share price moving again. 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: Appreciate that, Jeremy. Thank you, Jeremy Hutton from Milford. You're 68 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: on news Talk Said. 69 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: Big For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live 70 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: to News Talks. 71 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 72 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio