1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: There's nothing like a line, is there? The biggest change 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: in fifty years to get the old media in a 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: fizzon off, they went with what seems a fairly simple 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: to change a payment mechanism as far as I can 5 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: work out, petrol taxes going, you'll pay on mileage and 6 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: wait the way a lot of people already do. Martin 7 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Glynn's the AA Transports policy director and is with us. 8 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Martin morning to you, good morning mate. In terms of 9 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: a revenue stream, this was really the only way the 10 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: government could go, isn't it. 11 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: Well? I think absolutely long term, as vehicles become more 12 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: fuel fission and people start you know, there's different ways 13 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: of pairing vehicles. As we all know, it's just not sustainable. 14 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, we actually do need to make the shift. 15 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: Do you reckon the bearvoners are going to be in 16 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: for a shock if they haven't thought that through. Given 17 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: a lot of this is based on weight. 18 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: Sorry, I didn't quite understand your question the bearvoner. 19 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: So if you went out and bought a bev and 20 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: thought I'm not paying petrol anymore? Who Given a lot 21 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: of this is based on weight as well as mileage, 22 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: you're in for a shot because the chances are you 23 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: won't know how much carway isn't it weighs a ton 24 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: several tons? 25 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: In fact, I think most people will probably be ok 26 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: unless they change the weight classification. There's been no hint 27 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: to that, so at the moment the minimum cut off 28 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: for the very largest level is three point five tons 29 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: through a vehicle, so hopefully most people will come with 30 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: a map. 31 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: The electronics behind it. Do you is the transfer easy 32 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: if you get an app or you get a sensor 33 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: in your car or whatever it turns out to be, 34 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: Is that easy? 35 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: The announcement's been a little bit vague, certainly for new cars. 36 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: The Minister's been clear that a lot of that data 37 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: in the systems are already available in the car itself, 38 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: so that that should be fairly straightforward. But I think 39 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: that what he seems to be singling is that we're 40 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: moving to electronic devices, you know, to measure distance and weight, 41 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: So that would be actually something in vehicles like we 42 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: have the heavy vehicles now in the old. 43 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: Suit, well the current system when you buy mile, so 44 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: you're running a diesel, you buy miles that can slip 45 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: because it's all paperwork, and you wander into the post 46 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: office and all that sort of stuff is they've got 47 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: to get around that, don't they. 48 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the big issue because people need to check 49 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: their doometers. You know, that's none of us need to 50 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 2: do that with any other kind of bullets. It just 51 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: it just comes to us. So he's made it pretty 52 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 2: clear that will be addressed and we're looking to see 53 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: how that will be. And then you're right, you can 54 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: go online and that's fairly straightforward, but you've got to 55 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: wait for a for a license in the mail and 56 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: then put on your one screen. So it sounds like, 57 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: well that's going to. 58 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: Go, okay, good on your Mutin appreciate it, Martin Glynn. 59 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm assuming I'm probably being foolish here, but ultimately, what 60 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: you want electronically in your connection to the government is 61 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: the ability for them to do road user charges, tolls 62 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: on roads and everything you do in your car will 63 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: be done electronically. 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