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Speaker 2: Be seventeen minutes past nine. Jack, wait till your kids

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Speaker 2: start playing sport and have other activities and need to

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Speaker 2: be in separate places, says Brendan. That may be so, Brendan,

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Speaker 2: in the future, we may need two cars, but we've

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Speaker 2: already saved money as well as plenty of other things

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Speaker 2: over the last two years and just having one. So

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Speaker 2: look in five or six years time, you could be

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent right. And maybe that's my point. Maybe

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Speaker 2: there are kind of times in our life we're actually

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Speaker 2: moving to a one car household is convenient, Diana, says Jack.

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Speaker 2: Can you catch an uber or a taxi with a

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Speaker 2: baby and small child and no car seat? That's probably

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Speaker 2: the problem with young families in one car. Yep, Diana,

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Speaker 2: we can't do that. So that's where we have to coordinate.

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Speaker 2: If Mather or I need to take the baby somewhere,

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Speaker 2: then we know that they've got to take the car

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Speaker 2: and that the other person will have to be on

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Speaker 2: a bike and prefer or taking an uber or catching

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Speaker 2: the bus something like that. And Warwick's is Jack, you're

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Speaker 2: risk it all riding a bike risking health. Yeah, it's funny. Why,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've been I've been riding my bike basically

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Speaker 2: all my life. I love riding my bike, honestly, I

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Speaker 2: just love it, especially when you live centrally. I swear

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Speaker 2: and rush out it's faster. But I also get that

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Speaker 2: it's not for everyone. So when Marvel was pregnant, for example,

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Speaker 2: I didn't love the idea of her riding her bike,

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Speaker 2: especially with kibi drivers. And you know the same as

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Speaker 2: now that we have a little baby, we're not putting

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Speaker 2: that little baby on the bike in Central Auckland. Although

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Speaker 2: look there are other people who do that, and you

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Speaker 2: us a message this morning Jacket News dot co dot

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Speaker 2: m Z. Kevin Milne is with us now Galvi and Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Good A Jack.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think we've just gone from two cars to

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Speaker 4: three actually because our daughter Tom yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, she's.

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Speaker 3: Just for her own car. So and then we've got it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we could get by just yet, just

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Speaker 4: as as a couple with without having two cars, no London,

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Speaker 4: my wife goes to work and and I'm at home.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't want to be an homal day without a car.

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Speaker 2: No, that's fair enough. Could you And when you're traveling

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Speaker 2: around at home, do you are you like, are you

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Speaker 2: going far from home during the day?

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Speaker 3: No? Not really No, So could.

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Speaker 2: You theoretically could you like, could you bust to those places?

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Speaker 2: Could you ride a bike?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as I could bus? Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's not it's not for everyone. I'm

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Speaker 2: not I'm not saying everyone has to do this. I

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Speaker 2: just reckon we sometimes maybe fall into a trap, you know,

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Speaker 2: where you just kind of think that you sort of

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Speaker 2: have that you have to have a two car household,

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Speaker 2: and actually if you step back sometimes and look at

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Speaker 2: it kind of critically and even do the sums, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, we were spending like at least fifteen hundred

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Speaker 2: bucks on car insurance plus petrol plus parking for a

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Speaker 2: second car, plus of course the cost of the car

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Speaker 2: in the first place, And if you just think, well, actually,

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Speaker 2: does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: You know? Yes, Anyway, it's not, like I.

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Speaker 2: Said, not not for everyone necessarily, And maybe there'll be

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Speaker 2: years in the future given where you go from either

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Speaker 2: four of from three to one.

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Speaker 3: Now I'd like to work towards us having won Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was worth considering it at the very least,

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Speaker 2: given you've been surprised by how much research has been

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Speaker 2: done on New Zealanders killing are killed in the First

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Speaker 2: World or in the Two World Wars.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been finding out more about the death of

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Speaker 4: three of my uncles, all of them were brothers in

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Speaker 4: the First World War. What surprised me is how much

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Speaker 4: of that work's already been done by researchers with no

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Speaker 4: google the names of my uncles, for example, Lawrence Donna Hue,

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Speaker 4: New Zealand soldier World War One, and up came Page's mation.

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Speaker 4: I'd never known about his time in the war. There

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Speaker 4: are the obvious sources, such as the Auckland War Memorial

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Speaker 4: the direction of a facebox site called the Ads of

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Speaker 4: the New Zealand Division nineteen fourteen to eighteen. It appears

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Speaker 4: to have been compiled by a couple of kiwis, Jason

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Speaker 4: information back to New Zealanders about their family members who

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Speaker 4: died on Belgian soil or nearby. So on the lads

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Speaker 4: of the New Zealand Division site, I found out much

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Speaker 4: more about my uncles who fought and died in Passiondale

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Speaker 4: and Eprah or nearby battles to those areas. And there

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Speaker 4: are maps showing where the soldiers met their death, whether

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Speaker 4: the ambulance camps where they were treated treated behind the lines,

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Speaker 4: and photos of where they're buried, even their height and

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Speaker 4: health as they were being trained, and camps back in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand, and the strips fatures of the ships that

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Speaker 4: took them to war. So a bouquet this morning to

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Speaker 4: these wonderful researchers who find out so much about the

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Speaker 4: lives of our fallen soldiers. And I encourage listeners to

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Speaker 4: give it a crack. It just starts with keying the

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Speaker 4: full name of the vision you want to know about

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Speaker 4: and their war. Just key that into Google in your way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing some of the some of the and

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Speaker 2: it's often led by kind of amateur historians as well,

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Speaker 2: and people who aren't you know, they're doing it as

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Speaker 2: a passion project rather than any financial gain or anything

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Speaker 2: like that. But it is remarkable some of the efforts

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Speaker 2: about the service and stories of you know, of New

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Speaker 2: Zealanders and other soldiers who fought in those in those

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Speaker 2: world wars. It really is incredible the kind of wealth

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Speaker 2: of information that we have accessible to us courtesy of

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Speaker 2: the Internet as well. Right in the past, you might

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Speaker 2: have had to do that stuff yourself with you know,

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Speaker 2: physical copies of documents, but now so much of that

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Speaker 4: And of course the one thing they don't know really

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Speaker 4: who are the living relatives of the people that were

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Speaker 4: their research. Yeah, so you've got to kind of make

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Speaker 4: the first step and go onto their site and say, Hi,

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Speaker 4: what can you can I'm looking into the history of

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Speaker 4: Lawrence Donhue for example, of Mike as.

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Speaker 3: What can you tell me? Or can you tell me

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Speaker 3: any more? They'll send you a missed backs right away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, special, isn't it. So how do you find

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Speaker 2: when you know, when you come across those records for

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Speaker 2: kind of you know, I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: They're like a kind of connection this you have some

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Speaker 2: sort of emotional response when you're finding out those little

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, these three guys in the one family, I knew

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Speaker 4: their sisters. They were like all grandmothers to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they were. They were very close. A lot of them

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so yeah, it is. It is very special.

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Speaker 3: And I still would like to go over there and

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Speaker 2: You should, Kevin do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, go on, make it.

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Speaker 2: Happen this time next year. You know that put some

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Speaker 2: plans in place. I think, I think, I say, it'd

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Speaker 2: be a special thing to do. I did one, you

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Speaker 2: know one time. I remember, I'm a fan of them

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Speaker 2: going down a rabbit hole here, but I'm I'm I.

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Speaker 2: I had some interest in the New Zealand author John Mulgan.

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Speaker 2: You know, he wrote Men and I when I was

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Speaker 2: in I went to Egypt years ago by myself kind

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Speaker 2: it was kind of an interesting time to be in Egypt.

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Speaker 2: But I remember I went and tracked down his grave

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Speaker 2: know it's one of those cities, in one of those

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Speaker 2: know you can you can go, you know, travel to

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Speaker 2: special experience. So yeah, you to do it. He even

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Speaker 2: make it happen. Yes, yeah, very good. All right, have

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Speaker 2: a great weekend. We will catch you again soon. Kevin

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Speaker 2: Milne with us this morning.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 2: A car is freedom, It's freedom to move, So cut

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Speaker 2: the b s, says Radu yeah, well Rada. Again, I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying you have to lose your car. A bike

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Speaker 2: is also freedom to move. Jack, what about rural ubers.

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Speaker 2: This is my point, as I said, having a one

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Speaker 2: catching ubers when you live in a city. Again, not

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Speaker 2: for everyone, Jack says, Gilly. Living in a city is

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Speaker 2: so much easier when you've just got the one car

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Speaker 2: as opposed to we lived in Wellington for ten years.

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Speaker 2: We had the buses and trains that we could catch.

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Speaker 2: I'm and blend them. Now we're close to town so

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Speaker 2: I walk bike or my husband bikes where possible. We

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Speaker 2: still keep two cars though, because there's no public transport

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Speaker 2: and no ubers, which make it tricky when appointments clash. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's fair enough to Gilly. Thank you for your messages

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