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Speaker 1: You're trusted home for news, sport, entertainment, opinion and Mike

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Speaker 1: the Mic asking breakfast with the land Rover Defender embraced

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Speaker 1: the impossible news togs ed b well.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome today cash right? Dat does Christian save us all?

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Speaker 2: How about the driving instructors that will take cash for

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Speaker 2: a pass? How third worlds that got potentially good views

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Speaker 2: from the farm on our red meat sector, got some

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Speaker 2: new stats on how much we spend a week on food.

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Speaker 2: You'll be surprised with it are Mark and Jinny Politics Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold, State Side, Steve Price in Australia askingle of

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Speaker 2: the week seven past six. I would have thought the

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Speaker 2: Insidier numbers yesterday sealed the deal for the Monetary Policy

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Speaker 2: Committee in today's called the Insidier was the last substantive

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Speaker 2: look at the economy and what it shows is we've

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Speaker 2: got real trouble, quite possibly in fact recessionary trouble. The

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Speaker 2: quarter IEQ three they think was certainly flat of not

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Speaker 2: in contraction. If it's in contraction, you can add that

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Speaker 2: to the Q two contraction and that once again is

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Speaker 2: a recession. How many of these do we want? And

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Speaker 2: in the Reserve banks case, how many do they want,

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Speaker 2: given they can actually do something about them. Two particularly poor,

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Speaker 2: if not concerning parts of the data show one more

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Speaker 2: jobs being cut, So that's your unemployment rate heading higher,

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Speaker 2: shattering the idea that we may have reached peak. And

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Speaker 2: two inflation expectations are heading north of three. The band, remember,

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Speaker 2: is one to three. Trouble with that is the three

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Speaker 2: isn't coming from growth, which is traditionally what you want.

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Speaker 2: The term for no growth, but increasing inflation is of

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Speaker 2: course stagflation. We could relitigate again how badly the bank

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Speaker 2: have handled this, How they missed Q two despite that

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Speaker 2: being their job. How they kept telling us these stimulatory

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Speaker 2: effects of lower interest rates were here or just about here,

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Speaker 2: or here any day now, And if in fact they

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Speaker 2: were here, they got swallowed by the councils and the

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Speaker 2: power companies and the insurance giants. Anyway, surely fifty points

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Speaker 2: is are given, Well it isn't. Of course, there remain

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Speaker 2: those who argue twenty five should do it today, in

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Speaker 2: another twenty five next month, then we can all head

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Speaker 2: off to Christmas. Fingers crossed my argument today, It's about

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Speaker 2: more than stats and numbers. It's about the psychology of

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Speaker 2: an economy and a country. The government to try but

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Speaker 2: largely failed to jolly us along, to sell us the

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Speaker 2: story of recovery. The Reserve Bank have spectacularly failed, but

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Speaker 2: they can help today with fifty because it says we

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Speaker 2: got it wrong, we missed it. We need to fathers

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Speaker 2: joint up and here us our shot and it's a

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Speaker 2: big one. Go on, Christian be Bold. Second to last time,

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Speaker 2: don't die wondering.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: It is October seventh, it is two years.

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Speaker 4: If this is a memorial to the people who were

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Speaker 4: murdered here all of these are photographs of those people.

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Speaker 4: They were in attendance dancing that morning when the rocket

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Speaker 4: barrages first started from Garden in Britain.

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Speaker 2: On related matters, the bloke who could leave the Tories

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Speaker 2: one day, Robert Jenrick was in Birmingham, made some observations

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Speaker 2: that were recorded and today made.

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Speaker 3: Public and the Aaron a half I was filming with

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Speaker 3: the news there I didn't see another white face and

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Speaker 3: does not the kind.

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Speaker 2: Of country I want to live in. That with the

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Speaker 2: Handsworth is where it was Boomingham Handsworth and Boomingham likeals.

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Speaker 2: They not thrill.

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Speaker 5: Very disappointing that we are in twenty twenty five and

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Speaker 5: an MP feels that it's okay to make comments like

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Speaker 5: that based on what I'd say was a snapshot visit

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Speaker 5: and doesn't reflect a true picture.

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Speaker 2: But oh Bob wasn't for turning. I don't resolve from

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Speaker 2: those comments.

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Speaker 3: I want to live in a country which is well integrated.

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Speaker 3: I want people to be living side by side. I

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Speaker 3: never want to see segregated or even getta wised communities.

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Speaker 2: Then in Washington and I g Pam's turn on the Hill,

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Speaker 2: Josh Hawley, who was one of the louder Democratic mouths,

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Speaker 2: was ready to go.

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Speaker 6: I've heard them say that Joe Biden never directed his

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Speaker 6: attorney general to target his political opponents.

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Speaker 7: Hah.

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Speaker 6: That's interesting because I could have sworn that. Yesterday we

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Speaker 6: learned that the FBI tap my phone.

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Speaker 2: Then the nacos, the drugs and blowing up boats.

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Speaker 8: How did you conclude that these strikes on ships or

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Speaker 8: boats in the open ocean are legal?

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Speaker 9: What I can tell you is Maduro is a narco terrorist.

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Speaker 9: He is currently under indictment in our country.

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Speaker 2: Funding in Germany, situation still unfolding. A newly elected mayor

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Speaker 2: was found to have been stabbed multiple times. This is

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Speaker 2: in a home. Her name is Iristorts us susan hospital

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Speaker 2: with life. Certainly the injuries the chancell of Frederick Mertz

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Speaker 2: is called what heenus? The FEDS are investigating and that's

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Speaker 2: news of an as ridden in angry world and ninety

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Speaker 2: seconds like in the mood, I've got some good news.

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Speaker 2: Gold breached four thousand. Who would have thought he and

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Speaker 2: In further good news, the WTO this morning have issued

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Speaker 2: their latest trade forecast update. It's good good for this

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Speaker 2: year anyway, two point four that's up sharply from their

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Speaker 2: previous estimate. This is global trade two point four percent

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Speaker 2: for the year, but next year it goes south one

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Speaker 2: point eight is what they're telling us. Eleven past six.

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Speaker 2: We'll stop at Michael. I've got more good news. World

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Speaker 2: Bank has raised China's growth outlook to four point eight percent,

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Speaker 2: So we'll take that as well, won't we? Fourteen passed

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Speaker 2: Joe am I Wealth Andrew kellaher good morning to you morning,

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Speaker 2: Mike so in zid I E are the bank the

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Speaker 2: Monetary Policy Committe would have looked at that and here

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Speaker 2: we go. What they have to it's not good it

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Speaker 2: Is it a mixed bag? Are you calling it a

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Speaker 2: mixed bag?

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Speaker 10: I'm calling it. I'm calling it a little bit of

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Speaker 10: a mixed bag.

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Speaker 7: I mean.

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Speaker 8: So, yeah, this is insed I quarterly Survey of Business opinion.

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Speaker 8: Mixed bag though, Mike, but leaning to the negative POW. So, look,

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Speaker 8: it's not a high frequency it's a quarterly a survey.

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Speaker 8: It's certainly a key piece of research. It's given reasonable weight,

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Speaker 8: particularly by people like the Reserve Bank.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Look, I think there's some degree of interpretation around some

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Speaker 8: is that there's probably not enough sign of improvement in

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Speaker 8: Q three compared to Q two, So once again we

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Speaker 8: say things are still tough. So let's just run through

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Speaker 8: a bit of the detail. Headline business confidence actual numbers

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Speaker 8: fell from plus twenty two to plus eighteen season adjusted,

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Speaker 8: eleven points, which means that now a net fifteen percent

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Speaker 8: of firms expect an improvement in general economic conditions over

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Speaker 8: the coming months on a seasonly just basis while positive,

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Speaker 8: that's substantial four from plus twenty six in the Gym quarter.

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Speaker 8: And then you look at domestic trading activity past trading activity,

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Speaker 8: so think GDP that's minus fourteen. It improved from minus

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Speaker 8: a decline in their activity in the September quarter. It

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Speaker 8: was at minus twenty two. It is an improvement, Mike,

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Speaker 8: so cheer that, but it suggests that the economy will

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Speaker 8: in all likelihood not have improved to the degree which

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Speaker 8: has been hoped expected. Domestic trading activity so what people

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Speaker 8: think is going to happen has worsened from plus eighteen

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Speaker 8: of stuck. So yeah, looking at the labor market indicators,

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Speaker 8: I think you talked about this experienced employment that was weak.

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Speaker 8: It deteriorated eleven points of minus twenty three. And one

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Speaker 8: of the puzzling numbers in here, though, the ease of

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Speaker 8: finding skilled labor actually fell. It's kind of counterintuitive because

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Speaker 8: if the employment market is weak, you think that it

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Speaker 8: would be easier to find skilled labor. Maybe the fallen

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Speaker 8: immigration is having an impact there investment decisions.

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Speaker 10: It's really tanked. That's not good.

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Speaker 8: That means people aren't confident enough to invest in their business.

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Speaker 8: Inflation indicators you talked about this yet look that they

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Speaker 8: were mixed.

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Speaker 10: I don't think there's.

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Speaker 8: Any inflationary tendency here to be worried about. I think

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Speaker 8: the still spare capacity in the economy, manufacturing the least

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Speaker 8: optimistic sector. In short, here, Mike, nothing here says that

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Speaker 8: the RBN said shouldn't deliver the monetary policy stimulus that

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Speaker 8: they think is necessary. And just a final comment, Mike,

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Speaker 8: my understanding, most of the responses were received before the

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Speaker 8: dreadful YouTube GDP print before. So do you think that

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Speaker 8: gd print will improve confidence? More weakened confidence? So all

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Speaker 8: in all, we need a circuit breakup.

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Speaker 2: Just quickly. The dairy thing this morning, is that material?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's not good, but is it? Is

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Speaker 2: it a thing?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Look the context here, because I think we want dairy

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Speaker 8: prices to be at the minermum. We want to be stable.

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Speaker 8: You know, we don't necessarily need further hikes. I'm sure

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Speaker 8: farmers would like to see that. But prices are relevated.

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Speaker 8: The GDP price index overnight is falling one point six percent.

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Speaker 8: So you've now had four auctions of a negative movement

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Speaker 8: in the GDP price index, so minus point eight last time,

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Speaker 8: that four point three percent chakra in early September, small

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Speaker 10: So the trend might the trend is becoming noticeable.

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Speaker 8: And I guess of concern is the two point three

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Speaker 8: percent fall and whole milk powder I mean, skill miilt

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Speaker 8: powder down point five.

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Speaker 10: Mozzarella had a tumbele actually down to elymp pin eight percent.

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Speaker 8: But that whole milk powder average price is peaked in

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Speaker 8: May at four three hundred and seventy four dollars. The

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Speaker 8: average price overnight last night three six nine six. That's

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Speaker 8: a downward trend there, and it's a fifteen and half

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Speaker 8: percent fall from the peak. Need to do a bit

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Speaker 8: more work on what's happening at a sort of deeper level.

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Speaker 8: Who's not bid? Any Where's it coming from? But I

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Speaker 8: think we're on heightened alert here.

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Speaker 2: We have got this on watch right. I put it

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Speaker 2: all in the pot, stir it round. Give me the number.

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 8: It's got to be two and a half. Look, I said,

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Speaker 8: we need a circuit breaker. That just my whole point

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Speaker 8: about this. I agree with all of your comments prior

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Speaker 8: to we talk. If you're going to take it to

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Speaker 8: two and a half, why not do it now. I

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Speaker 8: mean it's only six weeks until November. If you get it,

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Speaker 8: if you have concerns, stop in November. Watch wait and

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Speaker 8: see you got three months off anyway from these things,

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Speaker 8: These don't.

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Speaker 10: Make a decision until February.

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Speaker 8: I think we need it now, and I think your

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Speaker 8: comments are absolutely right. What we need now is to

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Speaker 8: lift people's confidence a little bit.

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Speaker 10: If you're going to get it to two and a.

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Speaker 2: Half, do it now, right numbers please.

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Speaker 8: The Dow Jones, the US market's weakening off a little bit. Actually,

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Speaker 8: that tech trade going back is a little bit. The

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Speaker 8: Dow Jones is down quarter of a percent one hundred

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Speaker 8: and fourteen points six thousand, five hundred and seventy eight.

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Speaker 8: The S and P five hundred down twenty six points

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Speaker 8: sixty seven one three. That's a point four percent four,

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Speaker 8: and then that sect is down point six nine percent

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Speaker 8: as we look at it, one hundred and fifty eight

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Speaker 8: points twenty two thousand, seven hundred and eighty four small

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Speaker 8: left in the fotze one hundred nine four points nine

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Speaker 8: four eight three. The nickup six four seven nine five Oh,

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a novel idea. It's actually been talked about

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Speaker 15: But I guess also there's a few challenges with this

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Speaker 2: Who makes this dance work, who's coordinating all of this.

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Speaker 15: But genetics play a very important part. If you look

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Speaker 15: that means that's positive and you can play with beef

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Speaker 2: How does it work between on farm and where you're at?

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Speaker 2: For example, if I'm getting good returns, how many farmers

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Speaker 15: Oh well, farmers have innovated for a long time, Mike,

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Speaker 15: They know that the demand is there and there is

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Speaker 15: also know that our beef when you have a look

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Speaker 15: it's been the highest price in July since they have

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Speaker 15: We now the returns for beef are going to be

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Speaker 2: Good only nice to catch up, appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Good insight. Nathan Guy, a chair of the New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Look it up and tell me what a farm like

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Speaker 2: that is worth.

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Speaker 3: Six forty five International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance

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Speaker 3: Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business so Fadmin.

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Speaker 2: To Donald's Good morning. In trouble with the airports at

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Speaker 2: the moment.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, sure is.

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Speaker 16: We're now seeing airline delays around this country. On day

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Speaker 16: seven of the government shut down. The reason is that

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Speaker 16: numbers of air traffic controllers are staying away from the job.

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Speaker 16: Controllers are classified as emergency workers, but Transport Secretary Sean

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Speaker 16: Duffy says.

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Speaker 17: The bills have to pay, so now they're thinking about

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Speaker 17: that at the same time that they're controlling the airspace.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, they're not being paid mortgages due car payment. Do

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Speaker 16: they have to call in second workers temporary uber drivers

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Speaker 16: to pay the bills? They had to shut down the

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Speaker 16: control tower at the California in Burbank last night, as

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Speaker 16: one pilot was informed.

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Speaker 15: We're closing down the tower is.

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Speaker 14: Because they're shut down for staffing towers POS.

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Speaker 16: So you have jets using land at yourself procedures that

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Speaker 16: apply to small planes at local airstrips. Other airports also

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Speaker 16: have short staff, including Newark, New Jersey, Chicago, Washington, DC,

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Speaker 16: and Secretary Duffy says things are likely to get.

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Speaker 17: Worse if we have additional set calls. We will reduce

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Speaker 17: the flow consistent with a rate that's saved for the

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Speaker 17: American people.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 16: Trump suggested he is open to negotiations with the Dems,

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Speaker 16: but then while meeting with Marcarney, the Canadian PM, the

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Speaker 16: White House, he seemed to back away from that. Meantime,

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Speaker 16: in perhaps say surprise move, one of the most vocal

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Speaker 16: Republican right wingers, Marjorie Taylor Green, has broken with her

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Speaker 16: own party on the court shutdown issue of where the

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Speaker 16: covid era healthcare subsidies should continue. Green has posted that

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Speaker 16: she is going against quote everyone on this issue because

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Speaker 16: her own kids has got their health insurance renewals and

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Speaker 16: their premiums next year are going to double. She says

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Speaker 16: she is absolutely disgusted that health insurance rates are going

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Speaker 16: to double for a huge number of Americans, including her

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Speaker 16: own children.

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Speaker 2: How did Pam go, Well, It's been.

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Speaker 16: An interesting hearing, combative at times, all kinds of questions,

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Speaker 16: says Pam. Bondi is on the hot seat. Lots of

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Speaker 16: issues being raised, as I say, including the move by

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Speaker 16: the White House artists and in hundreds of federalized National

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Speaker 16: Guards for Chicago. Some of the troops are coming in

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Speaker 16: from Texas, and JB. Pritzker, the governor, calls it an invasion.

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Speaker 16: He says he views this as part of a plan

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Speaker 16: to put more and more troops onto the streets here routinely,

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Speaker 16: and maybe he thinks during the next elections coming up.

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Speaker 5: It's a signal that they're trying to send that it's

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Speaker 5: okay to have troops on your street.

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Speaker 16: Well, Bondy was pressed on this by Democratic Senator Dick Durbin.

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Speaker 9: He voted to shut down the government, and you're sitting here.

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Speaker 9: Our law enforcement officers aren't being paid. They're out there

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Speaker 9: working to protect you. I wish you loved Chicago as

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Speaker 9: much as you hate President Trump.

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Speaker 16: Bondi also sparred with the Dems over the Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 16: client list and refused to say who asked for a

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Speaker 16: review of how many times Donald Trump's name comes up.

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Speaker 16: Trump himself was asked about the US Supreme Court rejecting

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Speaker 16: an appeal by convicted sex trafficker Geolaine Maxwell for participating

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Speaker 16: along with Epstein and his sexual assaults on schoolgirls and

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Speaker 16: so on. Trump revealed he is considering pardoning Maxwell. So

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Speaker 16: he was asked.

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Speaker 7: Again, Yeah, I mean, I'm going to have to take

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Speaker 7: a look at it. And I have to ask.

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Speaker 16: DOJ why do that all? Why does he have to

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Speaker 16: take a look at it. She's already convicted and serving

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Speaker 16: jail time. While there has been the wildestir about a

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Speaker 16: statue put up right outside the White House showing Trump

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Speaker 16: and Epstein holding hands, it's done by anonymous artists and

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Speaker 16: shows the two longtime friends sort of gazing at each

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Speaker 16: other as they kick up the heels with apparent joy.

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Speaker 16: The sculpture was approved by the officials the National Mall.

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Speaker 16: Then it was forcibly taken down by some folks who

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Speaker 16: tore their hands apart damaged the thing, but the artists

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Speaker 16: fixed it up put it back up, whereupon they were

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Speaker 16: met by a show or forced by masked men who

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Speaker 16: ordered them to take it down. Then the I just

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Speaker 16: repeated it again and installed it yet again. Take three

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Speaker 16: with a plaque that reads in honor of Friendship Month.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Whichard Donald stateside by the way, in California

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Speaker 2: knew some has signed off a think called SB fifty three.

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Speaker 2: The only reason I raise this with you is it's

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Speaker 2: about AI, and everyone's grappling with AI and laws and

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Speaker 2: rules and expectations around It fills a gap less by

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Speaker 2: the US Congress, which is so far not past anything,

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Speaker 2: and it's sort of I've become increasingly interested in AI,

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Speaker 2: not because everybody else's but because it's going to burst.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a bubble. It's a fantastic tech bubble, which

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Speaker 2: is partially why Gold's at four thousand and at some

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Speaker 2: point all this is going to go tits up in

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Speaker 2: a spectacular fashion because everything is, as they say in

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Speaker 2: the market world, price to perfection at the moment, and

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Speaker 2: it simply can't continue. And if you listen to people

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Speaker 2: like Bezos, he even he sees it as a bubble.

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Speaker 2: I mean, AI is going to do some amazing things,

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Speaker 2: is doing some amazing things, but the amount of money

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Speaker 2: being put into it versus the return that isn't coming.

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Speaker 2: At some point people are going to wake up and

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Speaker 2: you go, you know what, I got a lot of

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Speaker 2: money in this and it's not turning out to be

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Speaker 2: what I thought, at which point they'll pull out, at

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Speaker 2: which point the whole thing's going to go. Remember where

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Speaker 2: you heard it first ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Costing Breakfast with the land Rover Defender and

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Speaker 1: use togsad be.

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Speaker 2: My rhetorical question, what happens to the economy of the

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Speaker 2: return on primary products drops off? Very good questions not

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Speaker 2: it doesn't need to be rhetorical, it's a very good question.

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Speaker 2: That's why it's so important to trigger the economy out

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Speaker 2: point five to get the benefits from well, I mean,

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Speaker 2: even if they go five today fifty today. It certainly

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Speaker 2: doesn't counteract what may or may not happen in terms

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Speaker 2: of dairy and the farming. A farming wasn't working for us,

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Speaker 2: we'd be in desperate trouble. Be Inzead have joined everybody else.

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Speaker 2: They've all lined up ahead of today six months ten

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Speaker 2: points down to four eight nine for your mortgage eighteen

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Speaker 2: months at four four nine and two years at four

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Speaker 2: six five, three year at four eight five Kiwey Bank.

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Speaker 7: What are they?

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Speaker 2: They're all the same, essentially, They're all the same at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, almost as though they get

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Speaker 2: together in a small room. By the way, I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying that. Don't sue me.

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Speaker 13: Was it like humor? Are a joke?

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Speaker 2: Adrian All set up?

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Speaker 14: This is this?

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Speaker 2: Finally, I don't know why this isn't the biggest story

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Speaker 2: this morning. How much media time has been spent in

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Speaker 2: the last whatever two three four months speculating on where

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Speaker 2: Adrian or is, what he's going to do. He's actually

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Speaker 2: done something. He started a company. He's got his own business.

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Speaker 2: Where's that in the news this morning? For goodness sake,

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Speaker 2: he started Adrian All Limited. So at least you know

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Speaker 2: what you're dealing with I mean, it could have been cleverer,

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Speaker 2: couldn't it. But Adrian all Limited its new management consultancy

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Speaker 2: business and he's doing tarot cards. I might have made

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Speaker 2: that last part up. Don't turn me, but.

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Speaker 13: I know I don't know when to take what you say.

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Speaker 2: The whole point of this when you just never know

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Speaker 2: where you're at, you just keep us wondering. Five minutes

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 1: And the outs. It's the bizs with business Faber, take

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Speaker 1: your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Is that true, Mike? You're one hundred percent correct regarding AI.

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Speaker 2: It's a bubble that's already four times larger than the

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Speaker 2: dot com bubble? Is that true? Check that out, Get

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Speaker 2: the research team on that. Is it four times larger

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Speaker 2: than the doering the bubble? Now the investors are back

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Speaker 2: in the property market. This is the other good news

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Speaker 2: this morning. Cotality. This is the coertality. Buy classification data

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Speaker 2: shows mom and Dad investors are leading the way when

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Speaker 2: it comes to multiple property owners or MPOs. MPO's share

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Speaker 2: of purchases an increased from twenty two to twenty three

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Speaker 2: and a half percent goes even higher and some set

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Speaker 2: as Hamilton, you're into it with alacrity twenty nine percent

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Speaker 2: christ dut To North from twenty six. First time buy

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Speaker 2: is still dominating the market in the capital though. Don't

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Speaker 2: but if you buy your first home, be aware you

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Speaker 2: can't water your garden. Don't buy a home with a

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Speaker 2: garden because you're going to die because you're on water

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Speaker 2: restrictions already level one. So just buy one with some

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Speaker 2: paving or no land at all, like a townhouse tower

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Speaker 2: on a Dunedin Hire Investor numbers, which is good. We're

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Speaker 2: also paying less for a property than a year ago.

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Speaker 2: The MPOs have spent an average of seven to fifty

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Speaker 2: nine as one thousand, which is down from seventy to

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Speaker 2: seven to seventy. First home buyers have paid an average

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Speaker 2: of seven hundred, which is up a little bit. So

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Speaker 2: there's clearly a plenty of people still saving and scraping

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Speaker 2: together ten to twenty percent deposit into the marketplace. You

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Speaker 2: can still do it. There's a company I read you yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I'll get to it later on in the program Urban Advisory.

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Speaker 2: I looked them up. They seem very touchy feeling. I

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Speaker 2: mean they for all I know they're fantastically likable people,

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Speaker 2: but they came up with this random survey from renters

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Speaker 2: saying that three quarters of renters are dissatisfied with the

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Speaker 2: housing choices available to them and they want more housing options.

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Speaker 2: And some of the housing options they came up with

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Speaker 2: were mobility co housing. So anyway, I'll get you the

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Speaker 2: numbers on that. Where was I those who are relocating

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Speaker 2: towns or just want change, they're paying it an average

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Speaker 2: of eight hundred and eighty thousand dollars. So I think

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Speaker 2: in totality, that shows there's a little bit of life

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Speaker 2: in the old housing market at the moment. In spring

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Speaker 2: is here, I'm seeing some more for sale signs. Wait

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Speaker 2: till September October numbers sort of come through on sales.

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Speaker 2: I think you're going to find that the sales numbers

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Speaker 2: are up, which is encouraging, Which brings us to Christian

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Speaker 2: penultimate outing fifty or twenty five. What do we think?

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Speaker 2: Where do we go? What's the impact? We're going to

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Speaker 2: have a look at this in the next half hour

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Speaker 2: of the program. Here this Wednesday morning, on the Mic

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Speaker 2: Hosking Breakfast, US.

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Speaker 18: Talks the.

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Speaker 1: Credible, compelling, the breakfast show you Can't best. It's the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Vita, retirement, communities, life your Way News.

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Speaker 2: Togs Head be seven past seven. So we always love

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Speaker 2: an ocr day, don't we. But day seems to have

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Speaker 2: a little extra hanging on at no real consensus over

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Speaker 2: twenty five or fifty. Nick Toughly's asb's chief economist and

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Speaker 2: is with us, Nick morning, Good morning, you're fifty. How

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Speaker 2: solid are you on your fifty?

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Speaker 19: Well, I'd like to go to do a pun and

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Speaker 19: say you about fifty fifty on the fifty, probably about sixty,

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Speaker 19: probably about sixty forty. Look, you can you can do

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Speaker 19: a pretty good case either way. But we think it's

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Speaker 19: just time to give it a firm and nudge than

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Speaker 19: what the Reserve Bank has recently.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any will put any weight on the

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Speaker 2: stick of shock argument, and that is that the Reserve

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Speaker 2: banker are going to panic a little bit and look

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Speaker 2: at all the things that have happened since they lasted nothing,

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Speaker 2: and go, geez, we better do something.

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Speaker 19: I don't think it's so much panic, but it's just

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Speaker 19: a shift or what we expect sees. It's a recognition

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Speaker 19: that the recovery does have some legs to get going,

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Speaker 19: but it's just taking longer to keep going. And I

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Speaker 19: think the really key thing from their point of view

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Speaker 19: is that there's looking like there's a lot more spere

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Speaker 19: capacity hanging around, and you just need the economy to

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Speaker 19: grow that much faster to absorb that. Otherwise you've gotten

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Speaker 19: an issue with inflation being a little bit weaker than

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Speaker 19: what you expected.

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Speaker 2: How much of today is about the basics and the

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Speaker 2: facts versus the psychology of it all and getting us

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Speaker 2: out of a funk.

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Speaker 19: Look, usually for the Reserve Bank, it is about the

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Speaker 19: numbers looking and going, Okay, the recovery has been slower.

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Speaker 19: It will rebound, but it's not going to be coming

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Speaker 19: quick enough to absorb the speed capacity quicker, and they'll

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Speaker 19: be eyeing up Okay, we's inflation likely to be sitting.

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Speaker 19: There's a little bit of psychology in the sense that, look,

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Speaker 19: the Reserve Bank was expecting to get the cash right

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Speaker 19: down to two and a half percent by year end,

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Speaker 19: So it's more a case of okay, if we cut

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Speaker 19: it a bit quicker, you know, what's the room for

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Speaker 19: regret around there? And we just think it's relatively small.

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Speaker 19: If you do actually get people excited and going out

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Speaker 19: there and spending money and borrowing and getting the economy going.

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Speaker 19: You know, that's not really too much of a downside.

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Speaker 2: What do you think the chances of a fifty and

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Speaker 2: a twenty five are we?

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Speaker 19: Do you think that's reason? I mean, that's our base

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Speaker 19: base case. We do think fifty today would just help

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Speaker 19: jolp things along a bit. We think that there's a

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Speaker 19: need for the cash rate to go a little bit

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Speaker 19: lower than two and a half. But we're getting there

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Speaker 19: near the endpoint, so we do our base cases, we'll

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Speaker 19: get down to two twenty five and hopefully by the

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Speaker 19: end of this year.

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Speaker 2: Do you expect to split vote on the Monetary Committee?

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Speaker 19: Look, I think it's going to be pretty close. I

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Speaker 19: think last time I was respeculating, we've probably had two

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Speaker 19: external people voting for a fifty, one external voting for

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Speaker 19: twenty five and the reserve banks star voting for twenty five. Look,

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Speaker 19: I think the key thing is at six versus six,

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Speaker 19: three versus three, or we've got six people. What Christian

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Speaker 19: hawks for the governor decides is going to be quite

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Speaker 19: critical because his vote counts twice. If they've got a

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Speaker 19: split three a three decision, what does it tell.

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Speaker 2: Us about our economy generally that we're hanging on a

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Speaker 2: cash rate, and that means mortgages, and mortgages means money.

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Speaker 2: And oh god, if we could only leverage our house

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Speaker 2: just a wee bit more, the economy might start growing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at that in a big picture,

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Speaker 2: it's not that good, is it. I mean, we should

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Speaker 2: be doing other stuff than relying on today.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, look, there are certainly more than today. I think

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Speaker 19: the fact that people are hanging out for lower interest

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Speaker 19: rates just tells you about how high and how painful

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Speaker 19: they have felt for many people. But look, when you

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Speaker 19: step along beyond interest rates, lo, what we are looking

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Speaker 19: for is people to have a bit more spear cash

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Speaker 19: to go and spend on the things that they normally

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Speaker 19: want that they've been scrimping on. Importantly, we want businesses

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Speaker 19: to start investing and looking to the future and making

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Speaker 19: those decisions. But also, let's not forget we do have

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Speaker 19: an agricultural sector where there's a lot of cash piling

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Speaker 19: in and they just also need to get to that

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Speaker 19: point where they've got their own financial ship into order

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Speaker 19: and then they'll start going out and spending on fun.

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Speaker 2: While I've got you the FPC, the Financial Policy Committee,

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Speaker 2: which they announced as they've been announced yesterday. It's a

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Speaker 2: thing they're setting up. Is that going to make any

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Speaker 2: material difference to my life?

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Speaker 19: Look, I think a lot of that financial stability stuff,

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Speaker 19: it's a bit like having an insurance policy. You sort

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Speaker 19: of you don't really read the fine print, just pay

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Speaker 19: the premium and kind of ignore it, but you actually

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Speaker 19: don't ever want it to be bumping up and having

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Speaker 19: a big impact on your life. Is that usually means

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Speaker 19: something's gone wrong, So that hopefully the job of that

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Speaker 19: committee is going to be just to make sure that

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Speaker 19: in the background, the New Zealand financial system remains stable.

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Speaker 2: All right, Good to talk to you, by the way,

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Speaker 2: while I've also got you. Do you reckon AI as

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Speaker 2: a bubble.

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Speaker 19: Look, I think it's one where there's a lot of excitement.

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Speaker 19: But the thing with technology is often there's a lot

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Speaker 19: of hype initially that fails to deliver, but over the

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Speaker 19: long term you get some pretty profound impacts. So I

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Speaker 19: think we'll see a lot of progress coming over time.

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Speaker 2: Always enjoy your company, Appreciate it. Nick Tuffley asb Chief Economist,

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, twelve macro Strategy Partnership Independent research firm

745
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Speaker 2: AI is not just a bubble. It's seventeen times the

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Speaker 2: size of dot Com, four times bigger than the two

747
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Speaker 2: thousand and eight global real estate bubble. Torsten Slock, who's

748
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Speaker 2: the chief economist at Apollo Global Management, tech stock prices

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Speaker 2: are more overinflated than the dot com bubble. Business professor

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Speaker 2: Eric Gordon. More people will lose money in the AI

751
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Speaker 2: craze than the dot com bubble other side, because we're balanced.

752
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Speaker 2: Venu Krishna, who's the US equity strategy at Barclays. He

753
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Speaker 2: goes the dot com bubble slash comparison to AI is

754
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Speaker 2: over blurt. Thirteen past.

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Speaker 2: I've got this one. I think it seems to be

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Speaker 2: good numbers around kids going to school. It long last.

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Speaker 2: This is from the Eer this morning. It's coming shortly

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Speaker 2: fifteen past seven. Our driver training trouble though. Over three

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two of us have to reset the

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Speaker 2: license after officers a agdly accepted cash bribes to pass

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Speaker 2: practical tast five instructors is from Highbrook, High Brooks in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: They've been sacked. The police are on with Mark Rebel

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Speaker 2: Johnson's the president of the New Zealand Institute of Driver

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Speaker 2: Educators and as well as Mark Morling. Well, oh, what's

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Speaker 2: happened to here? Do you reckon?

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Speaker 20: Difficult to say? Okay, just the one important distinction to

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Speaker 20: draw here. You're talking about instructors. The people involved are

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Speaker 20: actually testing officers, so not not necessarily driving instructors, but

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Speaker 20: people who conduct driving tests.

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Speaker 2: Right, what's the difference. What's the difference is who take money?

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Speaker 20: The differences the instructor instructs the test of tests, and

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Speaker 20: it's it's people doing driving tests to get a license

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Speaker 20: that were involved with it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is this do you think of one off? Is

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Speaker 2: this just you know, Mike going hey, listen, I've did

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Speaker 2: this and then Bob does it as well and suddenly

779
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Speaker 2: you got five people in the same office doing it.

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Speaker 2: Or is this this potentially endemic?

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Speaker 20: It's difficult to say, of course, but we don't know

782
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Speaker 20: an awful lot about it. However, when you consider the

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Speaker 20: number of driving tests that's happened on the well into

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Speaker 20: the thousands weekly, three hundred and twenty two over a

785
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Speaker 20: couple of year period is actually quite a.

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Speaker 2: Small number, and it doesn't make it right Mark.

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Speaker 20: No, No, absolutely not no, I quite agree, And you know,

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Speaker 20: we need to have faith in the system and it

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Speaker 20: needs to be consistent and above board.

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Speaker 2: Reminds me of the time I went to Rara Tonga

791
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Speaker 2: and you slipped the policeman the money you ever done

792
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Speaker 2: that and got your bike license to ride around the island?

793
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Speaker 20: About the bike license when I went there?

794
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Speaker 2: So, so who who's on top of this, who's in

795
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Speaker 2: charge of this and stamps this out? This all strikes

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Speaker 2: me as being unbelievably third world.

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Speaker 20: It certainly, it certainly has that impression, doesn't it. Let's

798
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Speaker 20: look at what who does what? The Transport Agency of

799
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Speaker 20: the Regulator VTNS have the contract to deliver practical driving tests,

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Speaker 20: so they're a contractor to the Transport Agency VTNZ. In

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Speaker 20: this case, I've responded to complaints, They've done an internal investigation,

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Speaker 20: I believe, and they have passed their concerns onto the

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Speaker 20: transport agency. They've taken enforcement action. VTNS have taken employment

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Speaker 20: action and now they not has been referred to the police.

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Speaker 20: So in that respect, I think the system seems to

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Speaker 20: be working.

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Speaker 2: In other wort, they got caught, so that's the encouraging part.

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Speaker 2: I suppose it's also interesting of the three hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty two. If I was one of the three hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty two, can you make me do it? Because

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Speaker 2: I mean, just because I paid the blankes of money

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean I wasn't any good and it didn't pass well.

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Speaker 20: I was correct, But we can't have any faith in

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Speaker 20: the result, can we. So we don't know if that

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Speaker 20: was a properly conducted test according to the conditions and

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Speaker 20: the rules, or if it was so I received even

817
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Speaker 20: if the drive happened properly at all. So the only

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Speaker 20: way to be sure of that is to revoke the

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Speaker 20: license and read it.

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Speaker 2: Do it again, all right, make appreciate the insight, Mark Rebel, Johnson,

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Speaker 2: chs yevvand Raratana. I mean, I don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: the same now, but you get a scoot around the

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Speaker 2: island and you've got to pass a test, and you

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Speaker 2: go to the officer in a couple of bucks, and

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Speaker 2: we're all good to go. Apparently, Mike, I need one

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Speaker 2: of the stings, please, Glenn, I asked you for one.

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Speaker 2: Where is its? Get it out of the bag, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Is there any reason it has to be fifty or

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Speaker 2: twenty five? As in points can they know? Robin, very

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Speaker 2: good question. You remember Australia was that this year a

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Speaker 2: last can't remember, but they went thirty five. So there's nothing.

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Speaker 2: I think there'll be some rule around. You can't go

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Speaker 2: like twenty two because otherwise mathematically it becomes a problem. Mike.

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Speaker 2: If only a third of houses in New Zealand have

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Speaker 2: a mortgage, well there's your first mistake. That's not true,

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Speaker 2: but thanks for the text. Anyway, sixty eight percent of

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Speaker 2: houses have a mortgage in this country. Why are we

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Speaker 2: concentrating on those with the mortgage? Lowering the interest rates

839
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Speaker 2: will reduce spending power for investors, yes it will, but

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Speaker 2: the important point is and it goes. And this is

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Speaker 2: why your points good goes to the parlor state of

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand economy. Because first of all, there are

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Speaker 2: more investors than there are borrowers, so that's a fact.

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Speaker 2: But the people or the amount that's borrowed is vastly

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Speaker 2: greater than the amount that's invested. So in other words,

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Speaker 2: you might have an investment of seventy five thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: but your average Morgan is five hundred thousand. So the

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Speaker 2: money out there on loan is far greater than the

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Speaker 2: money on investment, and therefore you can leverage, and you

850
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Speaker 2: might not get much return on your investment, but you

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Speaker 2: can always always leverage. That's fundamentally everything's wrong with the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand economy. People only think they're wealthy when they

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Speaker 2: can borrow more.

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875
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Speaker 2: Here is a small example of how frustrating it must

876
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: be to be the prime minister. They announced jobs he

877
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: could changes for young people. Right, it should have been applauded.

878
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: Monday after the Cabinet, the Prime Minister's in front of

879
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: the media reltigating yet again the perils of a life

880
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: on welfare, of an expectation of welfare, of going nowhere

881
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: fast or good on welfare, instead of taking that for

882
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: what it is. Some adults setting expectations, the media, namely

883
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: Radio New Zealand, get all myopic about it and requote

884
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: them about getting off the couch and playing PlayStation and

885
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: saying that there are employers out there quote unquote screaming

886
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: for workers. They go and look to literally prove him

887
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: wrong by using data that chosen almost all parts of

888
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: the country. There were more people unemployed than there were

889
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: jobs available. Now they're either thick or Macavelian, or possibly both.

890
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: Is it tight economically in the country at the moment?

891
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: Will of course it is, But the data and the

892
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: reality on the ground are not the same thing. If

893
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 2: you followed the data logic until there are one hundred

894
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: jobs available and one hundred jobless, you can't get your

895
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: problem sorted, which, of course is idiocy. Surely we've learned

896
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: the lesson during COVID people are screaming, I mean literally

897
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: screaming for workers given the borders were closed, and yet

898
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: did every jobless person have a job?

899
00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 17: No?

900
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: They did not. Why not? Because a gap and a

901
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 2: person are not automatically aligned, whether by skills or location,

902
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: or expectation or determination. Are good people hard to find?

903
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: Yes they are. It has been a catch cry of

904
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: the so called post COVID years has been is to

905
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: this day. Quality is not a number. Energy and desire

906
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: are not stats. And that is the mistake that the

907
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: boneheads at Radio New Zealand keep making. If you want work,

908
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: there is work to be hat. That's why some people

909
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: get laid off and go to a new job, and

910
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: some people go nowhere. You might have to move town

911
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 2: for goodness sake. You might have to work weird hours,

912
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: you might have to get new skills, or you might

913
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: have to get off the couch. The message the Prime

914
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: Minister was trying to get across was not about maths

915
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: and data in a myopic, negative view of the world.

916
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: It was about burning your life on welfare versus making

917
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: a go of it, and to see that you might

918
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: just need to kick up the bum from the welfare

919
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: system that's become far too soft. Hosking developing. Now, Hamas,

920
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: I told you this was going nowhere. I don't know

921
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: why Trump keeps getting sucked into the stuff I wish

922
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: I hope I'm wrong. But straight off the back of

923
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: the debarcle of Alaska, which has gone literally nowhere, and

924
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: Trump got completely stiffed by putin this idea that you

925
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: can stand in the White House week or so back

926
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: and just demand how it's going to go and expect

927
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: that to happen is just idiocy personified. Anyway, Hamas have

928
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: come back. They've got demands of their own. What a surprise.

929
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: They've not changed their demands since they accepted the initial element.

930
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 2: Some of the elements they said, yes, we can release them,

931
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: no problem at all. But they want a permanent and

932
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: comprehensive ceasefire. I think we'll probably all agree on that

933
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: and complete withdrawal of Israeli forces from Garsen. Now that's

934
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: not happening. Israel's not agreed to that. So there's your

935
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: first problem. And the critical part, once again wasn't mentioned initially,

936
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: isn't mentioned now, the disarmament. The deal is, you've got

937
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 2: to lay down your weapons essentially the same to a

938
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 2: mass you know, all the stuff that you do basically

939
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: for a living, which is go around terrorizing people and

940
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: killing people. All that stuff that stops, and so hand

941
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: over your weapons and stop being that, and we'll have

942
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: a deal. And guess what they're not going to do it.

943
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: I feel like getting on a flotilla and heading over

944
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: there and making a difference and taking some sandwiches with me.

945
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: The school situation seems to be improving, according to the

946
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Speaker 2: ro of which we will talk too shortly, and then

947
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: the probably for me anyway, the most fun? Is it fun?

948
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: Or is it depressing? Don't they the amount of money

949
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: we spend on food per week? They've got new numbers

950
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: on this, and I think, like me, you'll be surprised anyway.

951
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 2: That's to come after the news, which is next.

952
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic Hosking

953
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: Breakfast with the land Rover Defender embraced the impossible news,

954
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Speaker 1: Togs Dead b.

955
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 2: Ntilkenny Anderson Politics Wednesday after DAT twenty three minutes away

956
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: from it. We've got some good news I think, can

957
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: you report from er? The Education Review Office shows that

958
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: we're back at school fifty eight percent and are regularly attending.

959
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: That's back to pre COVID, up from forty percent three

960
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: years ago. Ruth Genoda the hit of the ero's Education

961
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Speaker 2: Evaluation Center and is beg with us. Ruth, morning to you.

962
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 19: Good morning.

963
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 4: Rate.

964
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: Slightly weird old world, isn't it When we're celebrating fifty

965
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: eight percent being an improvement. Is still a faelly Powers number,

966
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: isn't it.

967
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 21: Oh, we've definitely got further to go. So we're really

968
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 21: pleased to see six and ten kids going to school

969
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 21: regularly compared to four and ten three years ago. But

970
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 21: you're right back in twenty fifteen we had seven in

971
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 21: ten kids going regularly and the government's target is by

972
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 21: twenty thirty to get eight and ten kids there. So

973
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 21: it's really good news progress, but we've got further to go.

974
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: Just remind us what regularly is as where.

975
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 21: You're doing nine days out of a fortnight nine or more?

976
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: Okay, is it distinct to schools or geography or what.

977
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 21: So we are seeing an overall improvement across schools across

978
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 21: the country, and you know what's really encouraging is that

979
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 21: students are taking going to school more seriously. So eight

980
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 21: and ten students now say school is important to their future,

981
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 21: three quarters think going every day is important, and twice

982
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 21: as many are now saying they never want to miss school.

983
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 19: That's good news.

984
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: Do you think any of us, especially given what the

985
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: government's been talking about in the last couple of days,

986
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: jobs seek for people leaving with no qualifications, things like that.

987
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: That's sinking into some degree and people have worked out

988
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: you might need a qualification.

989
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 21: Definitely. Good schools we saw across the country are doing

990
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 21: things like explaining to students not just why they have

991
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 21: to come, but the implications that has how actually attendance

992
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 21: predicts their lifetime earnings. But the other thing they're doing

993
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 21: that really works is connecting students to schools. We found

994
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 21: that students simply belong at school. They're five times more

995
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 21: likely to think going every day is important. Schools are

996
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 21: doing a great job.

997
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: Good while I've got you this OECD report that I

998
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: know is about the place, and this tell US, which

999
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: is the Teaching and Learning International Survey. We seem to

1000
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: be producing teachers that don't feel confident in the classroom.

1001
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: Why is that?

1002
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 7: So?

1003
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 21: Last year we did review and itill teach education, and

1004
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 21: we did express concern because we had two thirds of

1005
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 21: principles saying that new teachers are unprepared and a quarter

1006
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 21: of new teachers saying that their training wasn't effect So

1007
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 21: we did recommend strengthening teacher education and reducing the variation.

1008
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 21: And it particularly we found that more time practicing in

1009
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 21: the classroom was really important to be prepared to teach.

1010
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 19: In the classroom.

1011
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I can't work out is why that wasn't

1012
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: worked out previously. Why wouldn't being in the classroom be

1013
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: one of the most important things you can do, as

1014
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 2: opposed to sitting around and theorizing until you actually get

1015
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 2: to do the job proper.

1016
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 21: So teachers have always done sometime in the classroom, but

1017
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 21: the increasing evidence shows them more the better and it's

1018
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 21: really important to work closely with those principles who really

1019
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 21: know what kind of new teachers they need, So having

1020
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 21: them a strong sen is really important too.

1021
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: Do you think what they're doing in the classroom by

1022
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: way of training now is fix that problem.

1023
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 21: We definitely know that in the classroom makes it a

1024
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 21: big difference, but we've got further to go to strengthen it.

1025
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 21: What's really important is that our new teachers are prepared

1026
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 21: that they don't arise feeling it's hard to do what's

1027
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 21: such a critical and important job.

1028
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: And the fifty four percent who aren't confident in you

1029
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: basically how to teach all the subjects that they teach,

1030
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: is that what is being taught to them as they

1031
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: an issue or not.

1032
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 21: We've got to look again at how we make sure

1033
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 21: that new teachers are confident it's such an important job.

1034
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 21: We found that new teachers are motivated, passionate about kids,

1035
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 21: passionate about getting that outcome. So let's make sure we've

1036
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 21: got the skills for them so they can get the

1037
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 21: job done.

1038
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: All right, Appreciate your time. Ris Shanida, who's at the ERA.

1039
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: Just the OECD report, sixty two percent of graduate teachers

1040
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: not confident in teaching content seems extraordinary fifty four percent.

1041
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: We're not confident in how they teach in all the

1042
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: subjects they teach. So I wonder if there's something in

1043
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: there and the quality of people they're picking up in

1044
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: the first place. Nineteen minutes away from eights like unbelievable

1045
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: that this driver license wrought continued longer than a week.

1046
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: If it was your son or daughter asking me for

1047
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: cash to pass, wouldn't they tell someone, Well, it depends

1048
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: how much they're askble. I mean, if it was a bargain,

1049
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: or whether you felt like you're getting ripped off. I mean,

1050
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: if the guys did, look, give me two hundred and

1051
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: you've got to pass as opposed to like twenty five

1052
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: twenty five keeping on the dealer rip off when you

1053
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: I'm joking, One New Zealand. What else could they do

1054
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: with carcier O'Connor. Didn't she turn out to be a

1055
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: piece of work? So unless she's employed, I guess, because

1056
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 2: most most people are going all right for a loving

1057
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: I bet you nana them I got a job, Well

1058
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: she has. She's an actor. If that's a job, I'm kidding,

1059
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: One New Zealand. So they had what else could they

1060
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 2: do yesterday? So she turns out to be in the

1061
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: ad and they pulled it and it doesn't align with

1062
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: their values and all that sort of stuff. So not

1063
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: that that makes any difference, because the problem is, of course,

1064
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: you get paid when you film the ad. You get

1065
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: paid for the ad, unless she's done a deal on

1066
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: the back end, which I doubt she has. So once

1067
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: you've done the ad, you get paid for the ad.

1068
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: The fact you no longer in the ad sort of

1069
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter anymore, does it. I wouldn't have thought,

1070
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: but what are shambles this has turned out to be?

1071
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: I got so depressed yesterday. I gotta be honest about

1072
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: this by the time I'd seen a carsier and then

1073
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 2: I saw Chloe yet again. Why is Chloe being blamed

1074
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: more than Marrima? Why is marrim Is there the whole time?

1075
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: But she was standing next to Chloe at the presser, well,

1076
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: so it was Marrima. Marrima was there as well. There

1077
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: are donkey deep in this as each other. I just

1078
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: long for the good old days? Does that make me

1079
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: sound old? I mean? And speaking of old, I watched

1080
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: Winston turn up and this I don't want to turn

1081
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: this into an age thing. But the guy's eighty, and

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Speaker 2: it's not acceptable to attack anybody's house, far less a

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Speaker 2: public figure's house, but far less a public figure who's eighty.

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Speaker 2: And he's got his partner at home, and she's got

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Speaker 2: a friend at home as well, and the poor old dog.

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00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: And you just got these pricks who are going around

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Speaker 2: causing any amount of damage. And then Chloe to her,

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Speaker 2: I just I don't. She's still defending it. She's still

1089
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 2: defending it instead of just maya culpering and going, look,

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Speaker 2: this is a cluster, and I'm sorry. We shouldn't be

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00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: involved in this. We are better than this. We want

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Speaker 2: to be about the environment. All we are about these

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00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: days is war, Palestine, Gaza flotilla's and all the other crap.

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00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 2: And David Seymour is watching him on the tiles. Yesterday

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Speaker 2: he puts out a very good thing. The Act Party

1096
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: put out a very good thing whereby they play their

1097
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: whole interaction with the press, and David seam Will summed

1098
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: it up perfectly when he said New Zealand is just

1099
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: sick and tired of these people, and we are we

1100
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: are sick and tired of you be better and the

1101
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 2: problem with it is is we can't do anything about

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00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 2: it because there are representatives and there are some people

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00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: who actually voted for them, and hence the malaise and

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00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: the country and hence my depression and hence me sitting

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Speaker 2: here now. It's seventeen minutes away from eight, flailing away

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00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: and frustration and throwing to the ad break.

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Speaker 2: Be My teaching is more like a trade. Historically they

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00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 2: went to teachers training college, no longer university trained. This

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00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: issue there that could be that's an old argument. It

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00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: does make it an invalid argument, but that's an ongoing

1113
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Speaker 2: sort of argument. Mike, I just can't have I'm from

1114
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 2: experience having five kids, having gone through the education system

1115
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: of late. You've got to look to see the quality

1116
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: of teachers overall is not what it was. There are

1117
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: still some brilliant ones about, obviously, and we should pay

1118
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: them more, but that's not the way the unions like it.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, at the bottom end, you really are thinking,

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Speaker 2: how is it you got through and if you did

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00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: get through, standards slip badly. Mike. My stepdaughter is an

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00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: art teacher at high school near Wellington told she was

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00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: to teach social studies, which she's never done before, and

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00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: fashion with no textbooks or material, setting teachers up for

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00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: stress and failure could be something in that theory versus reality.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of the weirdest things. Having a

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00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: daughter just about to graduate from medical school. The amount

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Speaker 2: of time they spend in hospital, on the ward, in

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00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 2: the department doing the medicine. They spend more time actually

1130
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: doing medicine than they do thinking about it in a classroom.

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Speaker 2: And I thought that was the norm until they, as

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Speaker 2: Ruth Shinoda said a couple of months ago, this business

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Speaker 2: of being a teacher, apparently you sit in some laboratory

1134
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: somewhere in a corner theorizing about it until you pop

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00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: out into a classroom. They say, go to it and

1136
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: join the real world. It's the weirdest thing. And then

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Speaker 2: they thought that suddenly putting people in the a classroom

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00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: might be a good idea, as though that's a revelation.

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Speaker 2: Brief thing on Winston I mentioned a moment ago. What

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00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 2: he should be congratulated on is a speech yesterday two

1141
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: years since, and he talked about refocusing our foreign policy,

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Speaker 2: which I thought was good on him, refocused to what, Well,

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00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: how about our backyard? How about the Pacific? How about

1144
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: the Chinese influence? How about focusing on something that we

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00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: can actually influence. And here's the cold hard reality of

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00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 2: foreign relations. We affect the Pacific, why because we've got

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00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: a checkbook in the Pacific. Foreign relations is really I mean,

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00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: it'd be nice to think it wasn't, but it is.

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00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: It's really about the checkbook. It's about the money influences

1150
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 2: money and money is influence. And so when you give

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Speaker 2: millions of dollars of AAD to the Pacific nations, you

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00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 2: have some influence over them, which is why we have

1153
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,479
Speaker 2: zero influence on Israel or Gaza or the Middle East

1154
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: and never have and never will. And it's all hot

1155
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 2: air and we're wasting our time. And for all the

1156
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: people who think that we should recognize palestein they did

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Speaker 2: last week, didn't they? Stamer did, and Carne did and

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Speaker 2: Macron did. And so what's changed? What's different? Nothing? So

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00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: us doing was never going to change anything. So it

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Speaker 2: probably if you want to look at bang for buck

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Speaker 2: energy and energy out, probably better off focusing in an

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Speaker 2: area of the world i e. The Pacific where we

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Speaker 2: can actually make a difference. Turn away from it.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News togs.

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Speaker 2: They'd then away from a fascinating insight into this food

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Speaker 2: shopping of our So we spend an average already for this,

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Speaker 2: We spend an average two hundred and forty dollars a

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Speaker 2: week per household. Now what does that mean, Well, it's

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Speaker 2: only two dollars more then we spent two years ago.

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Speaker 2: So think about food inflation and think about that number.

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Speaker 2: Thirty one percent of US aren't buying as many groceries,

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Speaker 2: forty eight percent of downgrading on brands, thirty percent of

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Speaker 2: us look for specials now. Blake Holgate is Rather Bank's

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Speaker 2: head of Sustainable Business Development as well as Blake Morning

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Speaker 2: of Mike. How robust are these numbers? I mean, are

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Speaker 2: you confident these are rock solid? You know? This is

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Speaker 2: the reality of things or just perceptions?

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Speaker 14: Look, it's a survey where we ask their participants their

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Speaker 14: perception a lot this meaning mic, So it is perception.

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Speaker 14: But I will highlight that this is a regular survey

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Speaker 14: that we run and the methodology has remained constant over

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Speaker 14: that time. So it's the relative change that we can

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Speaker 14: see through those numbers.

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Speaker 2: Do you see Are you surprised by the numbers?

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Speaker 14: I'm not surprised in the sense that we know people

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00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 14: are Wage inflation hasn't hasn't gone up at the same

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Speaker 14: rate that food food inflation has gone up with so

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00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 14: people have had to make cuts or make choices to

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Speaker 14: accommodate it. So I think that's sectively what we're seeing

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Speaker 14: coming through these.

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Speaker 2: Numbers, because what we know about food inflation is it's

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Speaker 2: gone up a lot more than two dollars in the

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Speaker 2: last two years, and so and I also know that

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Speaker 2: people are traveling and they go to Europe over summer

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Speaker 2: and Fiji in winter, and so we've got this two

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Speaker 2: speed economy I'm assuming, aren't we or haven't we?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: And I mean what we're dealing in here is an average, right,

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Speaker 14: So this isn't going to show those two different groups

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Speaker 14: or segments, but it does show across the thaire economy,

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Speaker 14: across the entire country, people aren't spending reletively as much

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Speaker 14: on food as they did two years ago.

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Speaker 2: Because they've done grade. Don't see the thirty here's what's surprised.

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Speaker 2: But the thirty percent you look for specials. I would

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Speaker 2: have thought we all look for specials, don't we. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're looking at you're wandering down the aisle. Why are

1207
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: you looking for a special? Why would you buy something

1208
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 2: more expensively than you can buy cheaper?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: I think. I think what the survey's showing is people

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Speaker 14: are more consciously or actively looking for promos or specials,

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Speaker 14: and I am more conscious of it than they were

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Speaker 14: two years ago.

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Speaker 2: Would this apply to you personally and your circumstances. Do

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Speaker 2: you buy fewer groceries, for example?

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Speaker 14: I would certainly take all those three boxes around, buying

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Speaker 14: less groceries, more actively looking for specials, and downgrading brands

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Speaker 14: and products that I'm spending on.

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Speaker 2: And if these figures were robust in terms of it's

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Speaker 2: not just perception, it's actual dollars, then that would show up,

1221
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Speaker 2: presumably in the bottom line of the supermarkets, and they

1222
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Speaker 2: would see that they're not actually earning any more money

1223
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Speaker 2: because people aren't spending any more money.

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Speaker 14: Presumably presumably might it's hard to look through and exactly

1225
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Speaker 14: the margins and who's getting squeezed down the line. So

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Speaker 14: some of the supplies that are feeding into those supermarkets,

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Speaker 14: I'm sure that's flung right down through the supply chain,

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Speaker 14: so it's probably not all just landing at the supermarket.

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00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 14: I think we would see the effect that flows right

1230
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Speaker 14: down the supply chain, and those supplies at are plant

1231
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Speaker 14: feeding into those super markets.

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Speaker 2: And what is this in your wheelhouse? What's the average household?

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Speaker 2: How many people in it?

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Speaker 14: This was simply done across fifteen hundred respondents. We didn't

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Speaker 14: get to the specifics of how many were in each household.

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Speaker 14: It's simply just an average across those.

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Speaker 2: We'vecause two forty sounds like not a lot of money

1238
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Speaker 2: for a family of four, for example. Sounds possibly okay

1239
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: for one or two people, but not for a family

1240
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: of four or six or whatever.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and look, and to be honest, we've been running

1242
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Speaker 14: the survey for about four or five years now and

1243
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 14: we're always surprised at how low that number is across

1244
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 14: the household. And that's total spend, not just a supermarket.

1245
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Speaker 14: That's total spend on allo.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, you've give me almost give me a heart

1247
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Speaker 2: attack now. So you're telling me that's on all foods.

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Speaker 2: So that's KFC and Mackers and everything. Yeah, correct, moment,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't know whether to be depressed

1250
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 2: or not, Blake, I think I'm depressed. You can't buy

1251
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Speaker 2: much for two hundred and forty dollars, is what I'm

1252
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Speaker 2: telling you. You would know that I know that, Yes.

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Speaker 14: And then as we say again, that's that's why in

1254
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 14: our households are starting to make some of those hard

1255
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Speaker 14: choices around their practical decisions.

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Speaker 2: Okay, nice to talk to you. Appreciate it, Blake, holgame,

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Speaker 2: I was I was going to go. Ah, everyone's at

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Speaker 2: maccers includes mackets. Well, even got to pop Eye chicken. Yet,

1259
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: for goodness sake, Ginny and Mark, after eight, what should

1260
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: we start with? Hard to know what to start with

1261
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Speaker 2: at the moment, There's so much going on in the

1262
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Speaker 2: world of politics. At the moment. House was back yesterday

1263
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: a bit angsty. The old question time is stayed a

1264
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: little bit angsty. Jerry was working hard, but anyway, politics

1265
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Speaker 2: went to stay. Next the news.

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Speaker 7: Talks pe.

1267
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Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't the mic asking breakfast with

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01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: Bailey's real estate, finding the buyers. Others can't use togs

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Speaker 1: dead b.

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Speaker 8: Better luck to luded baby and keep my other baby too.

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Speaker 13: I'd like to put my arms around.

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Speaker 2: That's all I want to do. I'd have to think

1273
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: pretty hard about this because these are early recordings. They're

1274
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: not good. Somebody could you can tell them how much

1275
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: the quality has changed over, isn't he? These are early

1276
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 2: recordings and it's a youngish Waylon Jennings, his son Shooter

1277
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 2: good name, really okay.

1278
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Speaker 13: In this not in this particular time, I don't think

1279
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 13: in the South.

1280
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but he was obviously wasn't named Shooter in

1281
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: this particular time.

1282
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 12: Was.

1283
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 13: I'm saying some things don't age very well.

1284
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: So Shooter Jennings, his son, went looking for his dad's

1285
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 2: archive of unreleased recording sessions from the late seventies time,

1286
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 2: and this is a project. There's going to be three albums.

1287
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: They think this one's got ten songs. This is when

1288
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: he was with the Whalers. Walon Jennings and the Whalers.

1289
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: Nine of the ten tracks are covers. I think that's

1290
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: probably a mistake. I would have gone some originals. I

1291
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: would have mixed them up. Also, if I was doing

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Speaker 2: three albums from my dad's music, i'd go with a theme.

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Speaker 2: I'd go with a period of time or sort of

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Speaker 2: song or whatever the case may be. But I'm not Shooter.

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Speaker 13: I'm Mike was Whalon Jennings. Is Whaler's different to Bob

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Speaker 13: Marley's Whalers.

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Speaker 2: Very much, sir, It's not and spelt differently as well.

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Speaker 2: Ten ten tracks and thirty minutes and thirty seven seconds

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Speaker 2: of Whalon Jennings. The albums called Songbird, he as amen

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Speaker 2: as past the Time. Now for politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: Jenny Anderson both Weather. It's good morning to you both.

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Speaker 7: Good morning Mike, morning.

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Speaker 2: Jenny, Good morning Jenny. Yes, where this morning is?

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Speaker 7: Mark?

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Speaker 12: I was gonna ask if it was the Lulu Lounge,

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Speaker 12: but I think that's not right.

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Speaker 2: No obs, He's not at the Lulu Lounge. Where are

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Speaker 2: you this morning?

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Speaker 18: Mark?

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Speaker 22: I am being very well looked after by the amazing

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Speaker 22: staff here at Wellington Hospital.

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Speaker 2: So you're in hospital?

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's no state secret.

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Speaker 22: Yes, I might just here for a few days, having

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Speaker 22: a big dose of some anie bolets.

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Speaker 7: I've hit a chest in fiction.

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Speaker 12: That's I hope you feel better soon.

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Speaker 13: You.

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Speaker 2: I got to say, you sound a bit croaky, Mark,

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Speaker 2: you sound a bit sort.

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Speaker 7: Of intantly finally beck on my feet in a couple

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Speaker 7: of days.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So are you up for the session? I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, Jenny.

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Speaker 7: Starts going nice, it will be more even, It'll be

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Speaker 7: more even.

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Speaker 2: Okay, still got a sense of competition going on as

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Speaker 2: far as Job Seeker, Jinny, the announcement's made on Job

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Speaker 2: Seeker for the eighteen to nineteen year olds without making policy,

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Speaker 2: because no, I get all that as an idea if

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Speaker 2: fair enough, or you'd flip it back, do you reckon?

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Speaker 12: Well, I'm not going to just come out and say

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Speaker 12: we'll reverse eccess silly. But the problem is these thirty

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Speaker 12: six thousand fewer jobs, So where are the jobs. So

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Speaker 12: it's great that when to incentivize them and they're encouraging

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Speaker 12: people to work, but if there's two hundred people a

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Speaker 12: day leaving for Australia, I think the problem they're trying

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Speaker 12: to fix is needs to be employment for these young

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Speaker 12: people to go to and so they've cut apprenticeship boosts,

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Speaker 12: that increased fees for university and you can't employments at

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Speaker 12: record rates. So that's the reality of the problem. So

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Speaker 12: I can't see their answer actually fixing the problem that

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Speaker 12: still exists.

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Speaker 2: Part of the problem, Mark, is you've timed it. I

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Speaker 2: happen to think it's a good policy, but part of

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Speaker 2: the timing is She's right. It comes at a tricky

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Speaker 2: time in the economy, and you're asking a lot of

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Speaker 2: young peopeople, aren't you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: I just think that young people are getting stuck on

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Speaker 22: a benefit. I mean it's awful. The socialist model is

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Speaker 22: having more people relied on the state, and that is

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Speaker 22: an awful model because you know, they lose any sense

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Speaker 22: of personal responsibility, any sense of aspiration, any sense of

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Speaker 22: trying to go out there and seize opportunities. And and

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Speaker 22: any young person that gets stuck on the job seeker

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Speaker 22: benefit under twenty five on average is going to spend

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Speaker 22: eighteen years or more on a benefit.

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Speaker 7: So I mean that is a shocker.

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Speaker 12: You know, well and good and I you know, we

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Speaker 12: don't want that. I think nobody wants that for our

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Speaker 12: young people. We want to provide a country where they

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Speaker 12: have hope, they have opportunity, and they want to stay

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Speaker 12: here and have those good things to look forward to.

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Speaker 12: And we still don't see that. We've got a prime minister.

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Speaker 7: Huge numbers on jobs.

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Speaker 12: Let me finish, you've got a prime minister who's telling

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Speaker 12: them to go to Dargaville and dig up a kumra.

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Speaker 12: You know that's crazy, you know they need some real

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Speaker 12: they're that's.

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Speaker 22: The problem, and that's the problem with your view of

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Speaker 22: the world is that when I know, when I was

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Speaker 22: a young guy shepherding, I would take a job wherever

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Speaker 22: it was. And when I didn't, when I was between jobs,

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Speaker 22: when I was willing to go on the police, I

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Speaker 22: went as a runner in a restaurant because my mum

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Speaker 22: and dad taught me that I would go and find

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Speaker 22: a job and I would work.

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Speaker 2: An interesting point.

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Speaker 22: But your editorde, Jenny, is that's that's beneath anyone.

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Speaker 2: You know, I got.

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Speaker 12: I got my first job when I when I was

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Speaker 12: as soon as I could.

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Speaker 7: You're just you're just pooping job.

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Speaker 12: And I saved And I wasn't pooping that I was saying.

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Speaker 12: These no shops available in the regions these areas are

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Speaker 12: saying they don't you.

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Speaker 22: Just use You just use the example of Prome, minister

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Speaker 22: use and you're poop putting it and say why would

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Speaker 22: a young person go to Targool to go.

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Speaker 12: And because there's no jobs they mark that's the point

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Speaker 12: that's not true.

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Speaker 2: There are what you're saying that's correct, Jenny, is that

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Speaker 2: the supply and demand curve is not working at the

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Speaker 2: not everyone's going to end up in a job. But

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Speaker 2: what I found interesting is what did the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: post cabinet on Monday there it seems to be a

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Speaker 2: thing these days, because he was being asked about that

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Speaker 2: moving town to find a job is somehow unacceptable. Do

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Speaker 2: you find that unacceptable?

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Speaker 12: Not at all? Like if people want to go somewhere, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know what if they don't know a different part

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Speaker 2: of the question. If you have to move because that's life,

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Speaker 2: is that acceptable?

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Speaker 12: Many people have to do that? Yes, it's a reality.

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Speaker 12: You were just talking about food prices and how much

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Speaker 12: people spend on food. The reality for many Kiwi families

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Speaker 12: they can't afford to live where they are now, so

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Speaker 12: they're forced to go to other areas. If it means

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Speaker 12: they can earn money and pay the rent and look

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Speaker 12: after their family.

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Speaker 2: Well that's good.

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Speaker 12: Here it's the brutal reality of New Zealand right now.

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Speaker 2: See, I would argue that that's not a bad thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when I was sixteen I left home to

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Speaker 2: go to Wellington, w go to we that's where the

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Speaker 2: job was. I mean, I didn't think twice about it

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Speaker 2: was what it was. It wasn't like, oh, my god,

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Speaker 2: I'm leaving home to move to it, you know, and

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Speaker 2: like it is what it is.

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Speaker 12: I think what some of those areas have been saying,

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Speaker 12: particularly in the regions, is they've been the hardest hit

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Speaker 12: by some of the job losses. Why c cut all

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Speaker 12: with closures of all those mills. You've had Nelson with

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Speaker 12: about three closures. Now you've had big manufacturing losses and

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Speaker 12: Plumouth around the Tartanuki area, and all those regions are

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Speaker 12: struggling right now. So just telling people to move to

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Speaker 12: the regions to find a job, do you understand what

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Speaker 12: to the problem New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Mark, just take another shot of adrenaline. We'll come back

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Speaker 2: with your aunt in the moment. Fourteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Seventeen past eight, Politics, Wednesday, Jinny Anderson, Mark, you were saying.

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Speaker 22: No, I was just saying, I don't think Ginny understands

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Speaker 22: why the country is. The whole country is working hard

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Speaker 22: to drive ourselves out of the the recession, the inflation

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Speaker 22: that we obviously as a government, that we inherited high

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Speaker 22: interest rates. The reason why we got there is because

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Speaker 22: we had very poor energy policy settings that has created

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Speaker 22: very high energy prices. We're currently having to pay about

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Speaker 22: eleven billion dollars annually on the massive borings that were

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Speaker 22: made by the government. That has an impact on the economy. Ginny,

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Speaker 22: we have that.

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Speaker 7: We have to pay the price.

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Speaker 2: When you get through it, this will be the election

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Speaker 2: you need debate. Genny, do you can you explain Hipkins,

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Speaker 2: who I think failed yesterday? This Peter's thing and the

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Speaker 2: new law the government are looking to put through about

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Speaker 2: protesting outside people's houses. Why did you vote against it?

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Speaker 12: It was really unclear and the detail about we you

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Speaker 12: know at your house, my house, someone else's house. I

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Speaker 12: mean that the reality is if someone is protesting their

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Speaker 12: right to protest, if they break the law, then they

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Speaker 12: get prosecuted as the person did out front.

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Speaker 2: A shorter person than in your view be able to

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Speaker 2: come outside Winston Peter's house at four o'clock in the

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Speaker 2: afternoon and bang a drum and yell through a loud

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Speaker 2: speaker for as long as they want because that's legitimate

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Speaker 2: protest or not.

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Speaker 12: Well, that would be breaching the peace and it would

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Speaker 12: be causing it to sturbance and so place would likely

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Speaker 12: have good grounds to to apprehend that person, but we

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Speaker 12: don't know.

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Speaker 7: Well, there aren't clear laws of it.

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Speaker 22: That's why we're passing the bill, and that's why we

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Speaker 22: would have expected you to support it. And I think

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Speaker 22: that every single Kiwi would would agree and say that

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Speaker 22: the one place that that they and their family should

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Speaker 22: feel safe is in their house.

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Speaker 7: And you picture a group of people.

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Speaker 22: Standing outside your house shouting all sorts of things with

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Speaker 22: loud ailers and carrying on them and by the way,

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Speaker 22: you know, completely totally stepping over the line going in

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Speaker 22: this smesh in the window.

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Speaker 7: You know they've got it.

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Speaker 22: They've got this beautiful bleat lab Winston and Jan apparently

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Speaker 22: there was glass through his eyes and.

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Speaker 7: It was just a bloody shocker.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the problem with it is Ginny As You're

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Speaker 2: on the wrong side of this now, aren't you, Because

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Speaker 2: what happens is it's all very well theoretically going around

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Speaker 2: going oh, you should be able to protest these sort

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Speaker 2: of people aren't normal, and when let off the leash,

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Speaker 2: that's where it ends up and no one. No one

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Speaker 2: finds that acceptable do they?

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Speaker 12: Let me be very clear, what happened to Winston Peters

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Speaker 12: is absolutely unacceptable and no one should have that happen

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Speaker 12: at all. And so if someone is breaking the law,

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Speaker 12: one hundred percent, they should be.

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Speaker 2: But that's the point of having a law, so that

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Speaker 2: we because the law at the moment clearly doesn't work

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Speaker 2: as well as it should do, and you shouldn't.

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Speaker 12: Be able to arrested. He was arrested, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well he was because he's handed himself in.

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Speaker 22: Yes, the police advice is that they don't have the laws.

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Speaker 22: They need to be able to go in and move

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Speaker 22: people away when they're protesting someone's private house.

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Speaker 7: So that's why we're passing the law.

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Speaker 22: So you know, I would go back and have a

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Speaker 22: serious chat with Hickins and say we better change your

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Speaker 22: position on this.

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Speaker 2: Pretty quick quickly. Ginny, how much do you spend on

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Speaker 2: groceries per week?

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Speaker 12: Roughly two teenage kids? Yes, it would be more than that,

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Speaker 12: It would be about four eighty.

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Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, see, that's why I don't know

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Speaker 2: where they got their numbers from, because I.

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Speaker 12: Mean to people who don't earn as much as me,

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Speaker 12: that you.

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Speaker 2: Think you spend more because you've got it as your argument.

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Speaker 12: Definitely, I would say, so like we spent we have

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Speaker 12: two people who are earning and we're able to when

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01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 12: we run out, we can go and buy more. And

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Speaker 12: so many families in New Zealand, and I hear this

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Speaker 12: locally that when their food runs out for the week,

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Speaker 12: they can't no more. And so that's why they're not

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Speaker 12: spending more money on takeaways or other things. As you said,

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Speaker 12: it's because people don't have the money to feed their family.

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Speaker 2: What would you spend make.

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Speaker 22: It's a really good question, to be honest, because I've

1523
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Speaker 22: got to put my hand up and so that I

1524
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 22: don't actually do the grocery as much these days. But

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Speaker 22: we've got two growing boys in the house, strapping leads

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Speaker 22: and you know, and obviously costs a bit to feed them.

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Speaker 22: But yet I couldn't give you.

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Speaker 2: Anything if the number is right. My point being, if

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Speaker 2: the number is right, then it's a wake up call,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? Because what I do know about shopping is

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Speaker 2: that two hundred and forty dollars is done by it

1532
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 2: much is the problem, isn't it?

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Speaker 12: Well, it doesn't buy you good quality food. It requires

1534
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 12: you processed food and white bread and terminut noodles. And

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01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 12: that's some of the problems we've got And that was

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Speaker 12: the whole reason behind the Healthy Launchers program, that if

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Speaker 12: you keep kids going to school, who hidden mean, feed

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Speaker 12: proper food to nourish them and at least they had

1539
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Speaker 12: the opportunity for learning. Taking it away.

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Speaker 7: But the one thing, the one thing that the one

1541
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Speaker 7: the next.

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Speaker 12: Generation of young people not learning or engaging in education.

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Speaker 22: I mean one thing, one thing, and this is what

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01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 22: we're telling people to suck EAGs. But when I was

1545
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Speaker 22: a young police officer and had a young family, I mean,

1546
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Speaker 22: we used to just see what the seasonal vegetables were,

1547
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Speaker 22: what the specials.

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Speaker 7: Were, and and try to shop like that. I still

1549
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Speaker 7: do to just to keep the building.

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Speaker 2: I grow my own mark. There you go.

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Speaker 7: Good on your mate, Good on your mate. Do you

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Speaker 7: have a little do you have a little roadside stall where.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about it because I had I've had

1554
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Speaker 2: a very good citrus season with mandarins, lemons and grapefruit,

1555
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Speaker 2: more more of those that I can do with and

1556
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Speaker 2: I was thinking that I'll need to. If I was

1557
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Speaker 2: a nice guy, I would have brought them in here.

1558
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Speaker 2: And of course she had them round the start, but

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 12: Lemons can go really really well exactly.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, I'm not a nice person, so I didn't

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Speaker 2: Finly enough, I was just doing the numbers, you know,

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Speaker 2: the rabobank two hundred and forty, and I don't want

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Speaker 2: to bang on about it, but I think I'm the

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Speaker 2: more I look at it, the more suspect I am

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Speaker 2: you can question people have got that sort of time

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Speaker 2: on their hands at two hundred and forty dollars, so

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Speaker 2: if you had a house of so it all averaged out.

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Speaker 2: So for one person two forty. Now that's a whole

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Speaker 2: different equation. Family of four two hundred forty dollars is

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Speaker 2: eight dollars fifty per person a day, eight dollars fifty.

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Speaker 2: There's no way you are feeding a person three meals

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Speaker 2: a day for eight dollars fifty a day. It's just

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Speaker 2: not possible. Therefore, I just wonder how I mean, obviously

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Speaker 2: you might have a skewed two person house scenario in there,

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Speaker 2: because the numbers don't add up to me. Twenty two

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Speaker 2: minutes away from.

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Speaker 3: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance peace of

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Speaker 3: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: I'll fraid you do flast.

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Speaker 18: Morning mate, Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 2: I knowe that Melbourne is holding up its reputation as

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Speaker 2: a refined, elegant sort of city as you mark October seven.

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Speaker 18: Well, I didn't think I could be shocked about the

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Speaker 18: level of anti Semitism that's risen in this country over

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Speaker 18: the past two years, but I was yesterday morning. I

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Speaker 18: could not believe it. Massive billboard in North Fitzroy. Now,

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Speaker 18: I know you know Melbourne well, but just for the

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Speaker 18: benefit of your audience, anyone who resides in places like

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Speaker 18: North Fitzroy colling with the inner northern suburbs of Melbourne

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01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 18: are likely to be Green voting Israel hating people. Now,

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01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 18: of course that's me talking in generalization, but it's one

1644
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 18: of those pockets of Australia that's very, very much of

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01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 18: the green left. Giant billboard October seven, of all days,

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01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 18: Glory to Hamas was the billboard. Now this billboard, it's

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01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 18: not like just a small poster. This is one of

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Speaker 18: those giant billboards. It's been overtaken by these vile people,

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01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 18: and it's on a major freeway into the city. But

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01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 18: it doesn't stop there. On a office works complex, there

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01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 18: was a graffiti about free Palestine and probably the worst

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Speaker 18: of all October seven. Do it again. Now, these hate

1653
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 18: slogans just got to stop. We can only hope and

1654
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 18: pray that there was CCTV footage somewhere, but these cowards

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01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 18: would have had masks on.

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Speaker 15: I would have thought.

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Speaker 18: Israel has reacted already with their deputy Foreign Minister calling

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Speaker 18: on Australia to quote get your country in order and

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01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 18: stop the due hate. Sydney Opera House looks like there's

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Speaker 18: going to be another protest there come someday, and that's

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Speaker 18: going to I mean Susan leader, Opposition leader says, look,

1662
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 18: this is a lot of this is the federal government.

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01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 18: They let hate take the take route in this country.

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Speaker 18: You had a truck driving past the synagogue yesterday in

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Speaker 18: Sydney's suburb of Cremorne with a bloke pointing a gun

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01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 18: out of the truck, and there were two hundred people

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Speaker 18: marching and they were lectured by a preacher in Sydney

1668
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Speaker 18: about the child deaths that are being done by the IDF.

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01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 18: I mean, it is completely and sadly out of control.

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Speaker 2: I just wonder if it's become a thing, you know,

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01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 2: because it's you and I are old enough to We've

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01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 2: been here many many, many, many many times before, and

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01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 2: it's going to be repeated again. And I just wonder

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01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 2: if it's got a life of its own and the

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01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 2: crackdown hasn't been hard enough and the penalties haven't been

1676
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 2: stiff enough, and therefore people feel entitled to do whatever

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01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: they want.

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Speaker 18: Well, I've lived in the two biggest Jewish population city,

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01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 18: Sydney in Melbourne for over a long time. I mean,

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01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 18: for example, I couldn't even tell you whether there was

1681
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Speaker 18: a synagogue in Cremonne until I read about it this morning,

1682
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 18: and anti Semitism is not something that in my seventy

1683
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 18: years I've seen in Australia at all. But in the

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01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 18: last two years, You're right, it becomes a trend. I mean,

1685
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 18: how else can you argue about Every weekend since October seven,

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01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 18: twenty twenty three, people are marching through the streets of

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01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 18: Melbourne waving Palestinian flags. One child yesterday was pictured wearing

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Speaker 18: a T shirt with a slogan on it death to

1689
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 18: the IDEF. I mean, this is just I don't know

1690
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 18: how you reign it back in.

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Speaker 10: That's the problem.

1692
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 2: But what does he do these days apart from good speeches.

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Speaker 18: Well, he's written an incredible book which I urge you

1694
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 18: to have a look at. It's going to be released

1695
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 18: in a couple of weeks. There was a major interview

1696
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 18: with him in the Australia last weekend. He describes himself

1697
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,480
Speaker 18: as an author, he's a former journalist as we know,

1698
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 18: and a speaker. He's in the UK speaking to a

1699
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 18: conservative conference he said in this speech, and the reason

1700
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 18: I bring it up, he said, Britain needs to move

1701
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 18: illegal migrants on to quote a mothership in international waters

1702
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 18: in the English Channel before being taken back to France

1703
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 18: in unsinkable life rafts on a suitable night. Now, obviously

1704
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 18: he was in charge in Australia when the turn back

1705
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 18: the boat's policy was delivered. He was the one who

1706
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 18: was very tough on it. He said, when I came in,

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01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 18: we reopened off short attention, we put back in place

1708
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 18: temporary protection visas, and we put in place of policy

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01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 18: to turn the boats around through Operation Sovereign Borders. I

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01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 18: have and I mentioned of it to you on Monday,

1711
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 18: and I'm sure I can tell you this, but I

1712
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 18: have a very very strong feeling that he is lining

1713
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,879
Speaker 18: himself up some sort of a political comeback.

1714
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 2: Wow. And would he be well received.

1715
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 18: In many parts of Australia. Yes, his problem was he

1716
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 18: was always not very popular in the socialist state of Victoria.

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01:20:58,160 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 20: But that wouldn't matter.

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01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 18: Yeah, a tough leader in charge of the Conservatives is

1719
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 18: something the Conservatives to day.

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01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting that Dunnet thing. The other day, just

1721
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 2: while you've got me on that, I was reading about

1722
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 2: that with the Hasty just to explain to people, so

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Speaker 2: Dunton reviews the election loss. Hasty was what did he

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Speaker 2: call them? He's a sleep or gone home or missing

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01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 2: an action away to the case. Is that just bitchiness

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Speaker 2: or is that real?

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Speaker 18: What this is part of is the undermining of a

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Speaker 18: challenge by Andrew Hasty that is coming to unseat Susan Lea,

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Speaker 18: the current opposition leader. It's all a bit complex, but

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Speaker 18: when Hasty quit the front bench, everyone who is not

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01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 18: a conservative within the Liberals decided that we're going to

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Speaker 18: get this bloke. And so this leak came to the

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Speaker 18: nine newspapers and it's all about undermining whether Hasty is

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Speaker 18: suitable or not to march to challenge Susan Lee and

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Speaker 18: take over.

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Speaker 2: While I've also got you troubling signed, would you agree

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01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 2: with this troubling sciences and your media this morning? Troubling

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01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: signs and the job market deteriorating more quickly than anticipated.

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01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 2: Job adds t three point three percent in September, single

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01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 2: largest monthly drop since February of last year for the

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01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: New Zealanders looking to go to Australia and Australia's the

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Speaker 2: Promised Land. Are times tight in Australia?

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Speaker 20: Are they ever?

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Speaker 18: And I think this is reality and the rubber hitting

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01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:19,440
Speaker 18: the road. We've lived in a false state of optimism

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01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 18: since COVID really and you know the Oban Ezy government

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01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 18: they swept to power again for a second term. But

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01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 18: then the underlying problems in this country include obviously housing

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01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 18: crisis like everybody has. But there's no wage growth and

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Speaker 18: there's no productivity growth in this country. The place is

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Speaker 18: on sitting in neutral or worse, going in reverse. And

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01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 18: I know industry after industry after industry that are simply

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01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 18: shutting down, sacking people and construction, hospitality, all of the

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Speaker 18: things that key we workers might put their hands up

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01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 18: to come and do, are in big trouble. Big trouble.

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Speaker 2: All right, make go well, we'll see next week. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: it very much.

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Speaker 7: Deep.

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01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 2: I just picked that up this morning. So just a

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01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 2: couple of texts this morning. In fact, I'll come back

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Speaker 2: to one in just a couple of moments. It ain't

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01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:07,839
Speaker 2: it ain't. I mean, you want to go to Australia

1763
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 2: and have a good life, fantastic, but to go there,

1764
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: go there with your eyes wide open. Eight forty five

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Speaker 2: The Like.

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Speaker 2: Good question morning, Mike can ask if you have to

1769
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 2: enter the bees of competition again every morning. No, you don't.

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Speaker 2: Once you're in your room hoping, Mike, you would have

1771
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,520
Speaker 2: asked Price about how McLaren unfairly treated Piastre. Yes, I

1772
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 2: did two days ago on Monday, when it actually happened, Mike.

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01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 2: Two years ago, my friends and a family of four,

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01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 2: including two young adults, sold up, moved to Adelaide. They

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Speaker 2: bought a house there. He found a job which actually

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01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 2: paid less than what he was formally earning here. They

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01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 2: have to put their home on the market and we'll

1778
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: be moving back home. I think many as humans all

1779
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 2: rosy over in Australia. But it's not the case of

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01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: many instances. I've been saying this but well and excessively

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01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 2: year on this program. If you read a lot about Australia,

1782
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 2: and I do. If you want to go in this

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01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 2: pathway for you and you're a they're always looking for nurses,

1784
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 2: they're always looking for doctors, they're always looking for you know,

1785
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Speaker 2: diggers out Western wa all of that sort of stuff.

1786
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 2: If you're on a pathway too and you want something

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01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 2: different than great, go for it. But to just blindly

1788
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 2: up and leave because you're a bit pissed off with

1789
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 2: what's going on in one country and move to another

1790
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 2: with no real research or understanding what's going on currently.

1791
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 2: You are potentially and for a difficult time speaking, which

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01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 2: Stuart Nash, I'm trying to work out of this is

1793
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 2: even a story. So the Herald think this is a

1794
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 2: thing this morning. So Nash he gets dumped. So Nash

1795
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 2: goes on that platform thing, that website, whatever that is,

1796
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 2: and he goes on. He says something stupid. He should

1797
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 2: never have said it. He's an idiot. And I say

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01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 2: that as I mean, I'm not as friend, but I

1799
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: know I'm well enough. But he's an idiot, so he

1800
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 2: should never have said that. So then as a result

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01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 2: of that, he gets dumped from a trade trip. He

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01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 2: also loses his job at the recruitment agency, so they

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01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 2: investigate him. Whether they investigate it was that I'm not

1804
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 2: convinced in my mind that sacking somebody for that is

1805
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 2: a sackable offense, and I I feel bad about sacking

1806
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 2: somebody over that. Yes, idiotic, shouldn't have done it, of course,

1807
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 2: but the guy apologized and may a culprit, so loon

1808
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 2: your lesson, don't do it again. So loses his job.

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01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 2: I didn't realize on the board of another. He's on

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01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 2: the board of the Taxpayers Union, so he lost that job.

1811
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 2: So he's lost two jobs so far. Then they boot

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Speaker 2: him off the trade trip. I'm not sure booting him

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01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: off the trade trip was a distraction. Do you think

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01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 2: your average American Welcome to America? Oh, Stewie, you're the

1815
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 2: guy you know, no one knows, no one cares, So

1816
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 2: booting him off that. So then Stewie decides to text

1817
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 2: Todd McLay trade minister, give him a bit.

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01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 7: Of a serve.

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01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 2: Now that's O. I aable and that's how I'm talking

1820
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 2: to you about this is morning because somebody, oh, I

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01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 2: ate it. So all in all, Stewie's not the sharpest

1822
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 2: tool in the box. So I think we can conclude that.

1823
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 2: But the outcome versus what he did to get to

1824
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 2: the outcome, I'm just not convinced. Is the biggest scandal

1825
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 2: in the woods.

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01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 13: Sort of got judgment with the form with the judgment.

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01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 13: Isn't he the poor judgment?

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01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 2: It's the Yeah, he lost that job as well, didn't he.

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01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 22: Yeah?

1830
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, he made several mistakes and then lost the job.

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01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 13: And you know, whatever you do, don't hug the machine

1832
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 13: in the gym either.

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01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 2: Nine. But we still like him? Do we still like him?

1834
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 2: Likable guy, likable guy, old Stewie to point he's got

1835
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 2: a spare time in his sense. Now that's all nine

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Speaker 2: minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but I always get confused between Zach, Zach

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Speaker 2: Bryan and the other guy Bryant, Luke Bryant and Zach Bryan.

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Speaker 13: Aren't they just all interchangeable?

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Speaker 2: No, not, no, they are not. So he's got Zach

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Speaker 2: bryan new song. It's called bad News, and he's putting.

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Speaker 2: of the Red, White and Blue. Have a listen, No listen,

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Speaker 2: dender in jail.

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Speaker 10: Some that Tambo has been giving a sall.

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Speaker 3: I got some bed.

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Speaker 10: We'll commission you.

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Speaker 2: The generational story of dropping the flight.

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Speaker 10: I heard the cops, can I.

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Speaker 2: Reckon He's got predistinguished and I is gonna comebos down

1877
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Speaker 2: here in door, trying to build a house on bills

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Speaker 2: no more, but I got a telephone.

1879
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Speaker 10: Kids are all scarting all along.

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Speaker 2: Did pink Sky's pink Sky's.

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Speaker 8: One stop bumping the rocks in the middle, things rising

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Speaker 8: in a warm stop showing as some bad news good thing.

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Speaker 3: Of a rare eye.

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Speaker 2: I like it, mind, you like the most of things

1885
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 2: that he doesn't. What Luke Bryant doobe? What is his song?

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Speaker 13: Thanks? I think.

1887
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 2: Who's dood bye do it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I like him. I like all the Bryans, so like

1890
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 2: all the Lukes are like all the Brians are like

1891
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 2: all the Bryants. That's what it comes down to. And

1892
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Speaker 2: I like country music, so that's all right. They'll get

1893
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 2: angsty about it in America. Some of the protests outside

1894
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 2: his household drove barthrough his front window, and the dog

1895
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 2: will get glass all over it, the dog glass O.

1896
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 2: You know you write a song about it. Wish Why

1897
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 2: was stood on the trade trip? The answer was it

1898
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,799
Speaker 2: was an immigration stock type trade trip. So he's on immigration.

1899
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 2: It's the answer to that question. Anyway. That's enough for me.

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Speaker 2: Happy Days.

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