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Speaker 1: AUSI correspondent Steve Prices, that's morning.

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Speaker 2: Steve, very good morning to you have it right.

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Speaker 1: The protests, the Prohamas and pro Lebanon protests, how big

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Speaker 1: were they?

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Speaker 2: They will be the biggest that we've seen for months,

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Speaker 2: and there are some disturbing images there yesterday. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about Sydney and Melbourne. Both cities have a very large

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Speaker 2: Lebanese population, migrants from Lebanon in particular, and the rallies

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Speaker 2: we've been used to probably numbering one hundreds each Saturday Sunday,

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Speaker 2: but this was more in the thousand. But it has

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Speaker 2: forced Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke, a senior minister obviously

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Speaker 2: in the Albaneze government, to come out and say, look,

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Speaker 2: I'll consider canceling the visas of anyone who incites discord

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Speaker 2: in Australia. Now, Burke holds a seat that has a

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Speaker 2: very large Muslim population and he's been very reluctant to

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Speaker 2: go public on his views on whether these protests should

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Speaker 2: take place or not. So why are we so disturbed

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Speaker 2: about this given that these protests happen just about every weekend. Well,

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Speaker 2: when you see the images of masked men carrying framed

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Speaker 2: photographs of the Hezbala leader Asan Israela who obviously was

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Speaker 2: taken out in that bomb attack in southern Lebanon. Over

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Speaker 2: the last few days, you really think to yourself, am

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Speaker 2: I still in Australia? I mean, why masked men or

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Speaker 2: masked anybody are allowed to march in protests through the

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Speaker 2: streets of Australia's beyond me anyway. But they were chanting

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Speaker 2: and filmed and there is video of this, you can

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Speaker 2: look it up on the Australian newspaper's website. They were

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Speaker 2: chanting labak Yazraela. That's in Arabic, which translate to at

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Speaker 2: your service Nasraela or ere i am. I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of Australians in general, when you look at those

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Speaker 2: images today and you watch that video and you see

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Speaker 2: it reported on TV news, that would say to themselves,

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Speaker 2: why are these Pronzraela people in Australia and what have

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Speaker 2: we done? I mean, who's come here? It is already

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Speaker 2: a major about what visas were issued and what visas

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Speaker 2: weren't after the October seven attacks and obviously the Israeli

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Speaker 2: reaction in Palestine in Gaza. But I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of Australiners will be shaking their heads today and saying,

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Speaker 2: what the hell's going on?

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Speaker 1: What's it going to take to get a visa canceled?

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Speaker 1: How bad does the behavior have to be?

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Speaker 2: Well, we do have legislation in place, federal legislation in

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Speaker 2: place about incitingvitons. It's a very loose piece of legislation

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Speaker 2: and this government in particular seems reluctant to use it.

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Speaker 2: But you could use it. I mean, why is it

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Speaker 2: legal to walk down a street holding a photograph of

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Speaker 2: a dead terrorist leader wearing a mask? I mean, I

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Speaker 2: just don't get that. And you can't walk into a

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Speaker 2: bank wearing a motorcycle helmet. Why are you allowed to

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Speaker 2: be masked in a protest? It makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: Better few people asking that question, Hey, what do you

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Speaker 1: make of that news?

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Speaker 2: Pop? Well, it tells me that the Labor government is

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Speaker 2: in trouble and that clearly, and Mike and I have

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Speaker 2: this conversation all the time. The election will not now

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Speaker 2: be this year, clearly, it's going to be as late

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Speaker 2: as possible next year, which is probably going to mean May.

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Speaker 2: But it looks like older voters, those between fifty to

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Speaker 2: sixty four, have turned swiftly against labor because of cost

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Speaker 2: of living. I mean the vote in New South Wales

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Speaker 2: now has the primary vote of Labor down to thirty percent.

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Speaker 2: That would be an election losing number. The Coalition is

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Speaker 2: now starting to take a lead in WA as well,

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Speaker 2: so we've got WA in New South Wales and Queensland

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Speaker 2: that would be enough seats for the Coalition to win. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: in Victoria, Labor it is still got its nose in

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Speaker 2: front two Party preferred, it's still fifty to fifty. But

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Speaker 2: the government in particular would be most concerned about the

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Speaker 2: fact that at fifty to sixty four year olds are

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Speaker 2: turning against labor and you've got to put that down

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Speaker 2: principally the cost of living, and people still have some

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Speaker 2: real concerns about the pace at which green energy transition

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Speaker 2: is happening. Anthony Alberzi himself as a leader, his performance

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Speaker 2: is still very poor and his leadership at the moment

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Speaker 2: doesn't look great. So I'd say in summary that Labor

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Speaker 2: would now hope that they're going to get probably stumble

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Speaker 2: towards Christmas, get through the Christmas holiday period, make some

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Speaker 2: big announcements in the new year. Hopefully they're an inch

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Speaker 2: straight cut and they might be able to struggle their

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Speaker 2: way to a narrow election victory sometime in main next year.

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Speaker 1: Steve, what do you reckon? I mean, if alban is

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Speaker 1: at last I saw albanize he's still leading Dutton in

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Speaker 1: preferred prime minister. And if he's still leading Dutton, does

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Speaker 1: that not kind of assist Labor or is it possible?

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Speaker 1: Is it possible that Dutton wins even though he's unpopular.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the latter, I think is a great assessment, because

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Speaker 2: in our system, you just got to win seats. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's not a presidential contest. It's a matter of you've

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Speaker 2: got to pick up enough seats to get a majority

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Speaker 2: in the House of Representatives. My great fear as always

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Speaker 2: been the possibility of a minority government. We hope that

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Speaker 2: doesn't have but if you look at the seats and

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Speaker 2: in the states where the swing is on, you can

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Speaker 2: make an argument, a reasonably good argument. Right now the

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Speaker 2: coalition is sitting where they could possibly sneak over the

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Speaker 2: line or they could force Labor into minority government. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Steve, Thank you so much for chatting to us

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Speaker 1: through that stuff that. Steve price Ossie corresponded.

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