1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews US and the inside. Andrew Dickens 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: on the early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Beds and apply at store news Dogs. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: It'd be well, good morning to you. 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: Thank you for choosing the show. It is the thirteenth 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 3: of December. It is a Black Friday and I'm Andrew 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: Dickinson coming up on the program. Today, health targets are released. 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: We're heading most of them. But does hitting the targets 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: mean we're getting good healthcare? I will do that in 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: just a few moments time. The Public Service cracks down 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: on work from home now is that fair? And what 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: should a workplace do about w f H? And there's 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: a review into acc what is rotten in the heart 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 3: of the world leading scheme. The Minister joins us just 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: before sex. We've got Vincent mcavenni on UK and Europe 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: coming up, and of course of the show correspondens from 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: right around New Zealand. You can text me anytime you 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: like ninety two to ninety two. Remember a small charge 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: does apply. And if you want to do a longer dissertation, 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: you can't send me an email. And that It's Dickens 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: at Newstalk zeb dot co dot NZ. 22 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: The agenda. 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 3: So it's Friday, the thirteenth of December. US President Joe 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: Biden is set to commute the sentences of fifteen hundred 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: non violent offenders. This is the largest day of clemency 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: in history. 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: The White House says all of these offenders are quote 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 4: nonviolent and have been placed on home confinement for at 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 4: least a year, adding that they had shown quote successful 30 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 4: rehabilitation and a strong commitment to making their community safer. 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 4: And the White House says that we should expect more 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 4: of this to happen before the President leaves office in 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 4: just thirty nine days. 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: Now to Australia more exactly Queensland, and they passed some 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: new laws which are quite george dropping. What do you 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: think the new law will see criminal children as young 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: as ten years old jailed like adults. 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 5: Our number one priority as a government in space is 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 5: fewer victim numbers and this gives the police the laws 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 5: they need to be able to do their job. 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: So if you're convicted for a serious crime like murder 42 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: and your tenth or serious assault and your ten, you 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: will be subject to the same sentences as adults. The 44 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: laws have been dubbed adult crime, Adult time. What do 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: you think about that idea? In New Zealand, ninety two 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: ninety two is the text number to South Korea and 47 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: South Korea's president has made another televised address, this time 48 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: defending his decision to declare martial law last week. 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 6: We must prevent the forces in criminal groups that have 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 6: led to the paralysis of government administration and disorder of 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 6: the national constitution from taking over the state administration and 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 6: threatening the future of the Republic of career. No matter what, 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 6: I will fight to the end. 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: And a second impeachment vote is set to be held 55 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: this weekend after the first one failed. And finally, as 56 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: you heard with Neva, it's just been announced that Donald 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: Trump has been named Time Persons of the Year for 58 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: the second time. He won it once after he won 59 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: the first election. Now he's got one it again for 60 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 3: the great comeback. He's beaten Elon Musk, who I thought 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: might have got it because you know, he's been very 62 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: powerful in the election. Plus he's done some rockets and 63 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: some cars and some batteries and stuff and X but no, 64 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 3: Donald Trump wins. Time Magazine's editor in chief says he 65 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 3: won the title for marshaling a comeback of historic proportions, 66 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: for driving a once in a generation political realignment, for 67 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: reshaping the American presidency and altering America's role in the world. 68 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: He first got the Person of the Year back in 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen after he won the presidential election. Then it 70 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: is ten after five. 71 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on the early edition with Smith City, New 72 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: Zealand's furniture beds and applying store news talk siddy. 73 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: Now, don't you hate it when the kids fighted? There's 74 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: a quiet war happening right now between David Seymour and 75 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: Winston Peters, the coalition partners. It's kicked up a little lately, 76 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: both boys playing games as they try to win the 77 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: hearts of the public and then win votes, which will 78 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: be all important when we finally go back to the 79 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: polls in twenty twenty six This, of course, is the 80 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: problem when you're a minor party. You need to make 81 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: noise to be noticed. You can get swamped so very 82 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: very easily. And the big noise for a while has 83 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: been David Seymour, who took conversations by the throat with 84 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: his treaty principles act love it or hate it, you're 85 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: all talking about it, which is all the politician wants. 86 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: Last week, I said when I was doing the drive, 87 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: so I did an editorial that said that Winston's been 88 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: a good boy while he's held the Deputy Prime minister job, 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: but that's coming to an end in a few months. 90 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: He does a swap seat with David Seymour. That will 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: free Winston's hand. You're gonna hear a lot more from him. 92 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: And look at that he started this week. That's why 93 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: he's taken over the railways. He wants to be seen 94 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: as a savior and a solver. The Herald editorial this 95 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: morning calls the move a Peter's power play. Seymour and 96 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: Peters have very different views of the railways. By the way, 97 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: Winston blames past privatizations. David wants to privatize forty nine 98 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: percent of it. Winston, by the way, also has a 99 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: treaty principal strategy. Just like David. He's looking to cancel 100 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: the legislation that already exists that prescribes how the treaty 101 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: veigels its way into our legislation. It's got a much 102 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: better chance of success than Seymour's Act and referendum but 103 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 3: so far it's flown under the radar since the election. 104 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: That hacks Winston off, and it's coming and he's going 105 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: to be free to promote it. So you're going to 106 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: hear a lot more about that soon. And you've got 107 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: to remember the difference between Winston and David. Winston is 108 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: an old school conservative and closer really to those old 109 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 3: fashioned socialists. We used to know they cared about the 110 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: working class, but it didn't have much truck with all 111 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: that sort of liberal stuff, you know, those guys. David Seymour, 112 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: though he's part of the new Conservatism and believes in capitalism, 113 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: markets and winner takes all. Winston doesn't believe that. They 114 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: are not naturally compatible. So I think it's a good 115 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: thing that they're starting to fight, even if they are 116 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: fighting in public. The next eighteen months looks to be 117 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: increasingly entertaining, and that is also a good thing because 118 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: you know, what are we about here? A contest of ideas? 119 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens, did you see We've. 120 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: Got to strike in the military game right now. It's 121 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 3: rumbling on. The civilian arm has been on a ghostlow 122 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: for the nearly a month now after they were offered 123 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: a wait for this zero percent pay rise. So work's 124 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: still happening. I've got a few friends who work in 125 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: the civilian arm. I live than Devenport. For my sins, 126 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: I have a few friends who work in it. It's happening. 127 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: They're doing it from home. It is certainly slow, and 128 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: yesterday the Defenseman of the Judith Collins, had to announce 129 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: that the military wing who are not allowed by legislation 130 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: to strike, have had their Christmas and New Year leave 131 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: canceled so that the military can keep running, which sucks 132 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: if you're in uniform, but it's another sign that our 133 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: defense force is woefully underfunded and they're trying to run 134 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: a truck on what is at five hundred budget. So look, 135 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 3: here's the thing. We spend one point one seven percent 136 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 3: of GDP on defense spending. That's pretty low. Internet at 137 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: the Worldwide Convention is two percent, Australia is one point 138 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: nine percent. These are troubled times. Do you think we 139 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: should be spending more on defense and so we don't 140 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: have military strikes? You can text me right the way 141 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 3: through the program. Ninety two ninety two is the number 142 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: news talks thereb so on the way to Fato Aora 143 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: has released its health targets. Now our health target is 144 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: a good way to run a health system. Will discuss 145 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: this in a mo with Debra Powell. 146 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: The First Word on the News of the Day Early 147 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture 148 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: Bids and Applying Store Youth talks. 149 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: It Bey, what do you reckon about queens and day 150 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: you do a crime you're ten years old, like murder 151 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: or a serious assault. You do a big crime, they 152 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: say you now do adult time. Grant reckons here, get 153 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: tough on crime. I for an eye in my book. 154 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: And then he says, and I quote a length of 155 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: rope is cheap, excell Grant. Meanwhile, Paul, thank you so 156 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: much for contributing to the program. 157 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 7: Morning. 158 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: It is Korea, not South Korea. There is only North 159 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: Korea and Korea. Good to know. It is sixteen f 160 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: So tifut to Order has released its health targets for 161 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: July to September this year, and all but three are 162 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: on track. Sixty seven and a half percent of patients 163 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: were admitted, discharged or transferred from an ED within six hours. 164 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: The target was seventy four percent. So do a bit 165 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: better there, and that's the big, big failure, but most 166 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: are on track. This comes after Health New Zealand released 167 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: its workforce plan. It says we will need three four 168 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: hundred doctors over the next ten years, and of course 169 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: critics of the health targets say we need more doctors 170 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 3: to meet those targets. But where will the doctors come 171 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: from and can we reach they four hundred and ten years. 172 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: So Deborah Powell is the National Secretary of the Resident 173 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: Doctors Association, joins me. Now, Hello Deborah, Good morning Andrew. 174 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: So the targets are on track. The government will be happy. 175 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: They like numbers, they like targets. Is that a true 176 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: representation of where our healthcare is at? Does it mean 177 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 3: we're getting better healthcare? 178 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 8: No, it doesn't. 179 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 9: I'm afraid our healthcare system is under real stress. Anyone 180 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 9: who's been to an ED will see that. And you know, 181 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 9: we've got block problems because we simply don't have enough 182 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 9: beds or the staff to look after the patients inside 183 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 9: our hospitals. We have problems in radiology because we don't 184 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 9: have enough radiologists or medical imaging technologists. So people get 185 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 9: stuck in d because they can't get an X ray 186 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 9: or CT and the volumes, the volumes of patients that 187 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 9: we're being asked to look after is just so huge 188 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 9: number of factors there. We've got an aging population, so 189 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 9: you know there is more demand, but primary care isn't 190 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 9: being supported enough, and so people are turning up to 191 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 9: ED because they can't get. 192 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 8: To a GP. 193 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 9: So no, our health system is not doing well. And 194 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 9: you know, releasing this at the same time as the 195 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 9: workforce Plan, well that was an interesting strategy. I have 196 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 9: to say. Well, because the workforce Plan has long awaited, 197 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 9: it's overdue of course. And three four hundred more doctors, 198 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 9: as you say, but no new medical school. You know, ultimately, 199 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 9: if we're going to get more doctors in this country, 200 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 9: we need to produce. 201 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 8: We need new. 202 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: Medical They've promised one in way Kato. You can't just 203 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: rust up a medical school overnight. 204 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 9: Well, they've promised one, but then they started talking about 205 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 9: the business case and we haven't heard anything further. I 206 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 9: understand that promise is possibly a shaky ground and the 207 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 9: money all. 208 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: Right, good, well, you've seen what's happening in to needing. 209 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: So let's take a look at the targets. You know, 210 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: for instance, eighty four point six percent of patients received 211 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: cancer management within thirty one days of a decision to treat. 212 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: And that's quite good and that means we are well. 213 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: And what I'm saying, don't the targets focus the mind 214 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: of all the practitioners and the patients to get their 215 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: care underway. 216 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 10: Oh? 217 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 9: Absolutely. But I don't think any of our doctors or 218 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 9: allied scientists and technical staff such as our radiation therapists 219 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 9: of course, who are treating cancer patients are setting around, 220 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 9: you know, not really interested in the next one that 221 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 9: rolls up. That's not the case. They're working really really hard. 222 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 9: They always have. And yeah, getting patients through, getting patients 223 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 9: treated is what health practitioners are there for. And yeah, 224 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 9: they're very focused. 225 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 8: On doing that. These are general figures, you know. 226 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 9: For instance, we've got real problems in Wellington and Palmerston 227 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 9: North with a number of radiation therapists we have there. 228 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 9: We've had on their accelerators not working during this year 229 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 9: something because we don't have enough staff to run them. 230 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 9: So they do an amazing job with a really difficult environment. 231 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: I have to say, very good stuff, Deborah. Enjoy your Christmas. 232 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: If we don't speak again, we'll get my love to 233 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: Ian and I thank you for your time today and 234 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: it is coming up nearly five twenty and this is 235 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: News Talk's b And meanwhile, can I just say the 236 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: need to find three four hundred new doctors inside the 237 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: next ten years is a huge target, and we'll take 238 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: a huge investment, and we'll take a huge immigration push. 239 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: And that's a big number. And that's how badly we've 240 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: fallen down over the last fifty years in providing with 241 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: our healthcare. So that's a biggie. The other biggie is 242 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: the acc accounts came out the other day. We are 243 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 3: seven point two billion dollars in deficit. We used to 244 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 3: be in surplus just a couple of years ago. Matt 245 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 3: Doocy just before six o'clock today here on News Talks. 246 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 3: There b it is five twenty. 247 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: Get ahead of the headlines. Andrew Dickens on early edition 248 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Bids and Appliant Store 249 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: Youth Talks. 250 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: It'd be so post pandemic is certainly the issue for 251 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: employers and employees to a certain degree work from home. 252 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: We started working from home, and then of course the 253 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: pandemic ended and we kept on working from home, and 254 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: some people are really against it. Elon Musk is going 255 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: to crack down in America and much to the dismay 256 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: of Public Service of New Zealand, the Public Service Commissioner 257 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: yesterday issued new guidance on working from home now. The 258 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: new guidelines make it clear working from home isn't an 259 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: entitlement and all flexible work arrangements must be agreed and 260 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: managed to support a high performance culture. So Jennifer Mills 261 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: is an employment specialist at Jennifer Mills and Associates, and 262 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 3: she joins me now morning. 263 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 10: Jennifer, Good morning, Andrew. 264 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: What do you think of the guidance. I think it's 265 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: pretty good. 266 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 10: Well, you're right to identify that the guidelines don't override 267 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 10: any existing contractual arrangements or statutes, and it gives the 268 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 10: agencies guidance in terms of what they need to do now. 269 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 10: And the whole idea behind the guidelines is just to 270 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 10: ensure that there's an alignment between agencies flexible working policies 271 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 10: and government's expectations. So they've made it very clear that 272 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 10: working from home in the public service isn't an entitlement 273 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 10: and there needs to be an express agreement between the parties. 274 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 10: Working from home arrangements can only be agreed where they 275 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 10: won't compromise performance of employees, teams, and the agencies as 276 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 10: a whole. And as you've identified, agencies are now required 277 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 10: to monitor and report on these arrangements that are in place. 278 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: And this is a good lesson for every employer and 279 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: every employee. I mean, too many people these days have 280 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: gone well, I don't feel like going, and I think 281 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: I might do a little bit of the WFH. And 282 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: they do it without telling their managers, without telling anybody, 283 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: and so it's a bit ad hoc. You know, if 284 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: you want to do this, fine, do it, but make 285 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 3: sure that you are set up to do it properly, 286 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: which means agreement between your employer and yourself and everybody 287 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: you're working on projects with. 288 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 10: Well, that's exactly right, Andrew. So as long as there's transparency. 289 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 10: The idea is that these guidelines won't cut across those arrangements, 290 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 10: but there does need to be express agreement, transparency and 291 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 10: just another cheek if you like that these ongoing arrangements 292 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 10: are suitable. And we've seen great employee resistance on the 293 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 10: return to office directive. Although this guideline doesn't go that far. 294 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 10: And in the private space we've seen employees are reluctant 295 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 10: to return back to work full time. But it seems 296 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 10: that the hybrid model is one that is working well. 297 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 10: And study show that there is no productivity issue between 298 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 10: those in the office full time and hybrid workers. But 299 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 10: the productivity issues arise where employees work from home full time, 300 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 10: and I suspect the driver behind this guidance is to 301 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 10: have better integration between employee and employer in the public 302 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 10: sector and perhaps to stamp out those one hundred percent 303 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 10: workers from home as opposed to the hybrid model. 304 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: Good good stuff. Thank you Jennifer Bills for taking our 305 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: time well us today it is five twenty six, and 306 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: I would suggest possibly, if you're an employer, just part 307 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: of copying what the public service has done and perhaps 308 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: thinking about instituting it in your workplace as well. Then 309 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: to Macavanni. Coming up in about fifteen minutes, we'll have 310 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: the latest from Syria. This is News TALKSB, the early 311 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: edition full show podcast on Iron Art Radio powered by NEWSTALKSB. 312 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: All right, here comes the weekend. Here comes a bit 313 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: of sport. We've got the black Caps playing in Hamilton 314 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: against England. I'll bother or not. I don't know, because 315 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: the black Caps have broken my heart over the last 316 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: two tests, to be fair, but it's good to see 317 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: Will Young is back playing. Now we've got football this 318 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: weekend as well. Phoenix play MacArthur, orcand f C plays Melbourne. 319 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: Hey hold on, I'm talking about football, the round ball game. 320 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: Who would have thought that in New Zealand football or 321 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: soccer would command such attention, would sell out twenty five 322 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: thousand seater stadiums. And the boost has been the arrival 323 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: of the ork NEFC, all the Black Knights, And the 324 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: question keeps getting asked, how come Orkande f C got 325 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: so good, so fast six zip? How good is that? 326 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: And how come they brought so many fans with them? 327 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: So here's my theory there, billionaire backer meant that he 328 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: could afford to get a good rounded squad right from 329 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: the get go. It's a great squad. There's a squad 330 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: stuff with all whites, that means stuff with Kiwi's and 331 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: Orcander's that appeals to the home crowd. We can be 332 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: proud of them. They hired a great coach and Steve Carriker, 333 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: He's done it before. Great captain and a Japanese legend. 334 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: They've tapped into the rising popularity of football amongst younger men, 335 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: in particular because Sky is finally playing the Premier League. 336 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: They stipulated that home games are in the late afternoon 337 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 3: so families can come, and if you've got kids, you 338 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 3: know it. I mean for younger fans as well, it's 339 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: just part of a night out. They go out after 340 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: the game, so it's not the bee or an end all, 341 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: and the ground is full on entertainment because frankly, a 342 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: ninety minute game is a long game for those easily distracted. 343 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: So they've learned all this I reckon from the Warriors. 344 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: And you look at AFC and the Warriors, and then 345 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 3: you look at the All Blacks, so you can see 346 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 3: the difference the All Backs and the Warriors. Well, no, 347 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: the Black Knights and the Warriors love their fans and 348 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: their fans love them back, unlike the All Blacks who 349 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 3: demand you worship them and then force you to watch 350 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 3: night games in a freezing June and July, who export 351 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 3: a home game against the French to America. And now 352 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: Ford has said the All Backs can't have any four cars. 353 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: That's a Biggie. That is so all backs. You should 354 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: be watching The New Boys. 355 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 8: I tell you. 356 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: Love it on your radio and online on iHeartRadio. Earlier 357 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: edition with Andrew Dickens and It's City New Zealand's furniture 358 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: Bids and applying store us Talk said, be. 359 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 3: Well, here's Coldplay and strange enough. Last night, looking for 360 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: something to watch for half an hour, I watched the 361 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 3: Capital Radio jingle Bell Ball in London at the O 362 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: two Arena the other day with a little half hour 363 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: set from Coldplay. Oh it brings a smile to your face. 364 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 3: Bad delightful boys. Welcome to the program. I'm Andrew Dickins. 365 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 3: It's twenty three to six. So we've got Defense Force 366 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 3: civilians on strike. They're on a ghost slow. They're happen 367 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: for about a month. And now the military guys, the 368 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: guys in uniform, are being told all holiday leave canceled 369 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: because we've got to keep the military running. And the 370 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: whole reason for this is we do not have enough money. 371 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: We do not spend much money on defense. I said, 372 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: should we do? 373 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 10: So? 374 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: Paul has written to me and said, yes, more on defense. 375 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 3: We need to start pulling our weight. It will take 376 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: two to three years for US to build up and 377 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: be moore Cape. Australia are preparing for war and if 378 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: New Zealand finds that it suddenly needs more military defense 379 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: supplies and they will become in short supply and highly expensive, 380 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 3: just like buying stuff during the COVID. And that's a 381 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 3: very good point, Paul, so thank you so very very much. Meanwhile, 382 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: still on defense, and also on sport and in politics, 383 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 3: they say sport and politics shouldn't mix, but that's bolderdesh. 384 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 10: So. 385 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: I heard yesterday Papua New Guinea will join Australia's NURL league. 386 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 3: They're going to play a rugby league there after signing 387 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: a deal. So Australia will provide six hundred million dollars. 388 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 3: Australia will albo Will Albernizi's giving Papia New Guinea six 389 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: hundred million dollars over ten years to set up a team. 390 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: And I went, what the hell has the Australian government 391 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 3: got to do with that? Then you go and look 392 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 3: at the story and realize that in exchange, Papua New 393 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: Guinea has signed a separate pact which says it reaffirms 394 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: its commitment to Australia as its major security partner. Basically, 395 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: this is a rugby league deal that obligates Papua New 396 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: Guinea to shun security ties with China. It's twenty two 397 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: to six. Let's go around New Zealand. Callen Procton joins 398 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 3: us from Duneed and Halle Cullen Morning Andrew. We've got 399 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: the Otager University graduation ceremony and there's going to be 400 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 3: a special award and people are going to be honored. 401 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 11: Yeah, a couple of the university senior leaders are being 402 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 11: recognized at tomorrow's graduation through a prestigious academic award. So 403 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 11: this is Stephen Haggs and also Professor Helen Nicholson both 404 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 11: being awarded an honorary Doctor of Laws for their twelve 405 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 11: and twenty four years of work, which included being as 406 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 11: chancellor and acting Vice chancellor. Both of them are helping 407 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 11: guide the university through times of change. Are the current 408 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 11: chancellors Trish Oakley? She says these awards aren't given out 409 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 11: every day and she's delighted to be able to recognize 410 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 11: their contribution which extends way beyond just the university. 411 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: And how is the weather today? 412 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 11: Are mostly cloudy, a few showers today, clearing by this evening, 413 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 11: though the high seventeenth to crazy. 414 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: Here we go. Thomas Rice joins me. Hello Tom, Hello, Hello. 415 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 3: Krashos Mayor is hoping that Contabrians can get behind the 416 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: city Missions Christmas appeal. 417 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, and he's even calling the level of need 418 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 12: a sad state of of fears. The charity is trying 419 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 12: to get one eight hundred food parcels for local families 420 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 12: over the holiday period. The partially restored Cross Church Cathedral 421 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 12: has even got behind the efforts, with proceeds from public 422 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 12: cathedral tours going to the appeal and me at film 423 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 12: Major says anyone who can give money should be congratulated, 424 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 12: adding that it's surreal to see the cues of people 425 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 12: waiting outside the mission, and so much so that even 426 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 12: traffic management's needed. Okay, and how's the weather in Canterbury. 427 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all right. 428 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 12: It's fine at first, cloud and isolated showers developing kind 429 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 12: of late morning and claring in the evening with a 430 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 12: high of twenty four. 431 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 3: Excellent. Thank you so much. Max Toel from Wellington, how 432 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: are you good? How are you good? We've got a 433 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: breakthrough for a landmark now what landmark are we talking about? 434 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, so this is the Oriental Bay band Rotunda. Excuse me, Yes, 435 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 7: the white whale of the Capital. You might say that 436 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 7: it's a large, semi circular building that juts out over 437 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 7: the beach. Used to be a seafood restaurant. It's sat 438 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 7: empty for more than a decade, I think because it's 439 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 7: that dreaded combo of being quake prone and heritage listed. 440 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 7: But it's a beautiful building, a beautiful site. I can 441 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 7: tell you that tourists who visit Wellington for the first 442 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 7: time probably see it on the horizon and get it excited, 443 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 7: thinking it's some sort of beautiful restaurant or bar or something. 444 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 7: Let's head there, and are sorely disappointed. The good news 445 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 7: is a new developer is taking it over, planning to 446 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 7: open a spa on the top on the bottom floor, 447 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 7: a restaurant and bar off the top. By twenty twenty 448 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 7: seven there was an offer approved by the City Council 449 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 7: by Watson Group. There behind other residential developments in the Capitol, 450 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 7: all going well, quake strengthening to start in the new year. 451 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: It's good news. When I lived in Willington, I used 452 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 3: to go there for a dinner or a lunch maybe 453 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: every couple of months because it was so good. Yes, seafood, seafood, 454 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 3: must eat food. How's your weather? 455 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 7: That's right, beautiful views as well. It should be fine 456 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 7: today twenty two the high Central very good. 457 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: And Neiva Rettaman, who is a very happy camper because 458 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: today is here Friday, last day before she's off on 459 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 3: her fest of holiday. 460 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 13: Well, I must say I think everyone in the newsroom 461 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 13: is very happy about that, because I have been annoying 462 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 13: this and I have been saying I've just been running 463 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 13: around the newsroom laughing, cackling. 464 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: I've only been doing the show for a week and 465 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 3: you'd be annoying me from Monday. There we go, so 466 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: Orkan's waterfront footbridge. Is it going to open this morning? Look, 467 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: there was some doubts, there was some doubt. 468 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 13: Well, I think there's a just a we slyther slither 469 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 13: of a doubt as well this morning. But everyone outside 470 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 13: of Auckland be thinking, oh flipp an Ekre's footbridge again. 471 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 13: But we are sending a reporter out there this morning 472 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 13: and apparently it should be opened by seven thirty this morning. 473 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 13: That's that bridge connecting when you'd caught her. Due to 474 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 13: reopen at seven thirty this morning. Our reporters on his 475 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 13: way there, so we will give you an update now, 476 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 13: you know. The Winnard Pavilion general manager Alex Pearson says, 477 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 13: they're so excited. I think there'll be a few people 478 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 13: down there. If I wasn't reading the news this morning, 479 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 13: I'd be one of those people down there because you know, 480 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 13: like we've got sale GP in January, We've got six 481 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 13: sixty coming Auckland boat Show over the summer, all these 482 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 13: things happening at the viaduct and people do not want 483 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 13: to walk, you know. 484 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: And I ride a bicycle through the viaduct the other 485 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: day that region and it was basically empty. Yeah, you 486 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 3: know absolutely that that bridge has been a disaster. It 487 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 3: has our short sighted this and a lack of investment. 488 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 3: If it's fixed, that's a good. 489 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 13: View, yes, And you know, and for those businesses, really 490 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 13: you've got to think about those businesses. You know they 491 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 13: will be I mean they've had huge losses and in 492 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 13: one of them said they've had losses up to sixty percent. 493 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 5: So good stuff. 494 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 13: Yes, that will be in the news this morning. 495 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: So now the bridge is open house. The weather for promenading. 496 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 13: Well, can I just say one word, muggy, not a 497 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 13: good day for here, Look at your here, don't go 498 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 13: down there for you. I mean like it's going to 499 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 13: be so hot twenty threes a high. But you know 500 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 13: it's just that humidity and it is happening today. 501 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: Good stuff, and I thank you. At seventeen to six, 502 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 3: in a moment, we're talking to Vincent mcaven he's going 503 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: to talk to us about the latest from Syria. It 504 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 3: really sucks to be Syrian. To be fair, you know, 505 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 3: you have the euphoria of the freedom of the revolution, 506 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: and you may have been a refugee and you've gone. 507 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: There's a million Cyrillians who got into Germany because Angela 508 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 3: Merkell welcomed them, and then, wouldn't you know it, the 509 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 3: next day, of course, all the countries in Europe started 510 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: turning around and the rights of the politics started saying 511 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: things like, well, I think it's time now that those 512 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: Syrians who arrived in twenty eleven might go home, even 513 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 3: though of course they've set up life here and they're 514 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: running all the jobs that Germans and Hungarians don't want 515 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: to do. So anyway, it sucks to be Syria. We'll 516 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: talk about Syria at a moment with Vincent Mcavhenny Well, 517 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: the AUK and Westpac rescue helicopter by the way, wonderful machine. 518 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: Their trusts are having a festive lottery. It's underway right now. 519 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: The rescue whole helicopters save lives and you can support 520 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: them and be into when by grabbing a ticket today. 521 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: So the main prize will be drawn Christmas Eve. It's 522 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 3: a oh wow, nineteen Lamborghini earliest supers Suv. Yes, sir, 523 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: Lamborghini Suv could be yours. Incredible performance, handling and safety features. 524 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: It looks beautiful, It's an Italian icon, could be yours. 525 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: Even your insurance is covered for up to two years, 526 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: t's and C supply, and there's more. If you buy 527 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: your tickets before December the fifteenth, you'll also qualify for 528 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 3: the early Bird draw featuring eleven additional prices turtling up 529 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: to seventy k that's ten thousand dollars, rebels, sports voucher, jewelry, 530 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: meat and grocery vouchers worth thousands, Home appliants and Apple 531 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: technology plenty plenty more. What a great lottery sounds like Christmas? 532 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: It is the Auckland Rescue Helicopter fest of Lottery and 533 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: you visit the website Aarhfestivlottery dot org dot nz and 534 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: grab your tickets today. That's a r HT sorry ARHT 535 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: Festivlottery dot org dot nz. 536 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 2: International correspondence with Nzenye Insurance Peace of Mind for New 537 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: Zealand Business. 538 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 3: Bint maccaveetty. Welcome to them. 539 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 8: How are you good morning? I'm well, thanks, how are 540 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 8: you very good? 541 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: About a million people have a Syrian passport in Germany. 542 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: Most of them came what fifteen sixteen Angel and Mercal 543 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 3: invited them in and now what's happened in Syria. A 544 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: lot of people are saying time to go home. 545 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, millions of others across the rest of Europe as well. 546 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 8: There's lots in the UK. I've been speaking to some 547 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 8: today and some are incredibly keen to get home. We 548 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 8: know that, for instance, the UK has now stopped processing 549 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 8: assilent claims from Syria. Some other UK European nations are 550 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 8: looking at repatriation schemes, but some are already saying that, look, 551 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 8: they're going to go home and do trips, be reunited 552 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 8: with family in the coming weeks and then it will 553 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 8: take them a few months to figure out how exactly 554 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 8: they move home and what they will do when they 555 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 8: get there. But many who I've spoken to today very 556 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 8: optimistic about the fact that they can go home. They 557 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 8: want to try to rebuild Syria. They are, of course, 558 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 8: concerned about what's been going on. There's still a lot 559 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 8: of confusion at the moment. We know that the rebel leader, 560 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 8: they're saying that he'll dissolve security forces, that the interim 561 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 8: government will remain in place until March, and that we 562 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 8: still got the US and Israel carrying out a number 563 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 8: of strikes in the country to take out military installations 564 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 8: and also to try and curtail Isis from rerouping. 565 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 3: True enough, true enough. But there's also a lot of 566 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: people who have Syrians who have made their lives in Germany, 567 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: and these I understand the health Stike DOS very concerned 568 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: because they've become quite dependent on the cheaper labor. 569 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right. I was speaking actually to a medical 570 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 8: association via Zoom in northern Syria today and they are 571 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 8: trying to treat those who've come out of prison with 572 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 8: all of these severe torture wounds and real sort of 573 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 8: psychological scars from this as well. They've been urging Syrian 574 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 8: medics who many of them were sort of had to 575 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 8: flee the country over the five decades of the ASSAD regime, 576 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 8: many of them highly skilled. You've got some top Syrian 577 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 8: surgeons here in London for instance. Not for them are 578 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 8: wanting to go home, but it could cause shortfalls of 579 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 8: expertise here. But it will be a decision for them 580 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 8: to make as to whether or not they go back. 581 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: Then's the mac of Enny out of the UK. Thank 582 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: you for your time in the target. It's OW ten to. 583 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: Six Andrew Diggins. 584 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: So the ACC Minister has announced an independent review into 585 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 3: ACC because of concerns about its performance. Matt Doocey says 586 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: rehabilitation rates up down, weekly compensation costs and average cost 587 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: per claim were up. That's not efficient. Not only that 588 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: there was a seven point two billion dollar deficit, which 589 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: is a worry. We were in surplace a couple of 590 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: years ago. Matt Doocy joins, you now goimoing to you 591 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 3: Matt at the RIDI Andrew, what are you going to 592 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: look into? 593 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 8: Basically? 594 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 14: What I want to do from the external review it 595 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 14: will be conducted within six months, is to seek assurance 596 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 14: that ACC has the right settings and interventions in place 597 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 14: to turn around their declining rehabilitation rates and to address 598 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 14: the expansion of the number of people on long term prime. 599 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: So is the review because you don't know why their 600 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: numbers said or their heading of targets has falling in. 601 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: You don't know why they're not rehabilitating better, and you 602 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 3: don't know why it's costing. 603 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 14: Well, when we look at the deficit that ACC posted 604 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 14: in the last year about seven point two billion dollars, 605 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 14: it's about a third a third and a third of 606 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 14: that has increased costs through inflation and treatment costs. A 607 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 14: third of it is to do with court rulings that 608 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 14: have opened up entitlements, and a third of that is 609 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 14: the declining rehabilitation rates. Now ACC is recently restructured. They've 610 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 14: deployed an extra two hundred and fifty people on the 611 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 14: front line, moved from a many to one case management 612 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 14: approach to narrow one to one. So they're putting their 613 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 14: systems and interventions in place. But I want to get 614 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 14: experts in. They've got experience of excellent compensation schemes to 615 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 14: give me assurance that every lever has been pulled to 616 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 14: ensure we turn those declining rehability session rates around. 617 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 3: Okay, and we'll good luck with that. Meanwhile, of course, 618 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: the deficit means that you've announced increasing levees. Levies have 619 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: are increasing by up to five percent a year for 620 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: three years. Do you think if you have a successful 621 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 3: review you can actually reverse those increasing levees, you could 622 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: bring the cost down. 623 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 14: Well, the advice I've got is that we need to 624 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 14: do both at the moment, is increase levees and also 625 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 14: turn around the declining rehabilitation rates. What we're looking at 626 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 14: the long term ten year horizon as well. But I've 627 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 14: been very clear with ACC. I don't want to see 628 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 14: the increasing of ACC levees just been used as a 629 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 14: default to address their deficit. They need to lift their performance. 630 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 14: The advice I've got is even a one percent improvement 631 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 14: and rehabilitation rates will have a significant impact in the 632 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 14: long term on their deficit. And that's why we really 633 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 14: want to drive up those rehabilitation rates. 634 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: Well, it's the deficit is mind blowing, an eye watering 635 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: at seven point two more so, anything you can do, Matt, 636 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: go ahead and do it. It is now seven minutes 637 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: to six and By the way, levees for evs are 638 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 3: going to go up about one hundred bucks, whereas levees 639 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: petrol vehicles going to go up about fifty. Now, why 640 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 3: are the evs more dangerous? Apparently it's because the evs 641 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: don't pay the petrol tax. But is that necessarily fair? 642 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: He says as an ev owner. 643 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: News and Views you trust to start your day. It's 644 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: early edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's 645 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: Furniture Beds and applying store you've talk said be. 646 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: A Teesta comes in and says, can you give the 647 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 3: correct Westpac helicopter address please? Because it looks like there's 648 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: a couple of scam sites up there, isn't that awesome? 649 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas? Who would thank you? 650 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 8: Paul? 651 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: Who would be scamming this thing? Okay? The addresses air 652 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: HT Festivelottery dot org dot nz, which is a terrible website, 653 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 3: I mean, too complex, but anyway, a HT Festive Lottery. Meanwhile, 654 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: another text says, what's the constant use of festive? Are 655 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 3: we removing Christmas? 656 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 13: No? 657 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: We're not your paranoid man. Christmas, Christmas, Christmas, death of Christ. 658 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 3: God bless you. Heather bless you two Andrew things. It's Friday. 659 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 8: It is Friday. 660 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 15: We're going to try to you know what, We're going 661 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 15: to try to get into this NRL thing. Have you 662 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 15: seen what happened with the NRL overnight? 663 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, today, and they're defeating China by funding a football team. 664 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 665 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 15: So we were never in the running, were we for 666 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 15: our South Island football team? Not really, no, because unfortunately 667 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 15: it was always going to be given to PNG to 668 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 15: try and cut China's lunch. We have a little chat 669 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 15: about that. I don't think that this is good for 670 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 15: rugby league. Might be good for geopolitics, but if you're 671 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 15: a fan of the league, do. 672 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: You know what last night I heard that story and 673 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: I heard it in the side and I said, there go, 674 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 3: why the hell is Albanesi giving six hundred million to 675 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: a football side? And it's not till I came in 676 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 3: this morning and read the story. I went, oh, and 677 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 3: so that was badly reported. 678 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 15: Yeah, well, I also wonder what's going on with Albanizi 679 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 15: if he thinks that he can win an election by 680 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 15: annoying all the Bogans who watch rugby league. 681 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: I don't think that that's a. 682 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 15: By the way, also Una Jegozie, Solicitor General, has done 683 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 15: a bit a complete u turn on her prosecution guidelines 684 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 15: for you know, giving a free pass to Marti if 685 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 15: you know, if the prosecutor wants to. 686 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 3: What was it a free past? 687 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 15: It was it take into account, take into account, take 688 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 15: into account. But if you read the document further, it 689 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 15: gets more and more into like free past territory. Actually, 690 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 15: So we're gonna have a chat to her just to 691 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 15: find out what it is that changed her mind and 692 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 15: whether she accepts it is actually a mistake that she's 693 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 15: made in Brian roach new public service commissioners telling them 694 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 15: how much time they got to spend in the office. 695 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: Chato, that's a good idea too. I've talked about that 696 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: this morning. Great idea. Hey, thank you, Heather, Welcome. Thank 697 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 3: you to Leo the producer. My name is Andrew Dickens. 698 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: I'm back again next week haha. 699 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 700 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: to News Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or 701 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.