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Speaker 1: Barris Per senior political correspondence with US Now Barry.

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Speaker 2: Hello, good afternoon, Hea.

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Speaker 1: When you were at school two hundred years ago, did

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Speaker 1: you have to do testing? When you were at primary.

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Speaker 2: School, we did testing all the time and had report

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Speaker 2: cards all the time. And most common line that was

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Speaker 2: used for me is and I can't never understand why

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Speaker 2: I was is doing well but could do better?

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Speaker 1: And did your mum look at that and think, oh jeez,

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Speaker 1: I need to try with that one? Just go on

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Speaker 1: your own themail.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can't remember, but I think I did better.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but I think it's a great idea.

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Speaker 2: I mean, from next year, all kids with the their

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Speaker 2: first year of schooling will have to run through a

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Speaker 2: phonics test that'll help teachers understand how well kids can

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Speaker 2: read by sounding out letters after twenty weeks of schooling,

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Speaker 2: and it'll be repeated after forty weeks, so that's in

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Speaker 2: their first year. I think these are great moves and

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Speaker 2: they should have been in place I think long before now,

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Speaker 2: because we haven't really known as parents how well our

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Speaker 2: kids are doing progressively at school. There will be progression

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Speaker 2: on monitoring of reading, writing, and maths, and that'll be

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Speaker 2: introduced for years three to eight, which is good at

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Speaker 2: you yawning, hither, that's a bit boring for you.

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Speaker 1: No, sorry, oh my gosh, not for on air, what's

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Speaker 1: carry on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so it'll basically essentially help teachers understand how

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Speaker 2: well the kid's doing, not only them, but they'll be

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Speaker 2: able to pass it on to the parents, and then

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Speaker 2: the parents will be able to take hopefully some sort

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Speaker 2: of remedial action at home to make sure their kids

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Speaker 2: keep up. And the objective, of course.

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Speaker 1: Is to so the teacher can right, because it will

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Speaker 1: also identify for the teacher who's falling behind.

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Speaker 2: Well, that too, and the government strategist get eighty percent

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Speaker 2: of students at curriculum level by the time they reach

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Speaker 2: high school. Now, of course, labors come out. And Jan Tinetti,

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Speaker 2: who used to be a school teacher, she described the

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Speaker 2: announcement as a step, a backward step for education, saying

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Speaker 2: that a number of students would be left behind. Well

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Speaker 2: that maybe the case. One would hope that the parents

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Speaker 2: would try and ensure that doesn't happen, but she said

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Speaker 2: that Erica Stanford has hell bent on one size fits

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Speaker 2: all in the education system. Well, isn't that what education's

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Speaker 2: about is to make one size even be better than.

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Speaker 3: All I was hoping to address I am going to

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Speaker 3: address this later in the show, actually, but I really

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Speaker 3: keen to know what you think about this story that

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Speaker 3: emerged on news Hub last night. It had also been

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Speaker 3: on Newsroom a couple of weeks ago about David Seymour

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Speaker 3: apparently getting in trouble for messaging kids eight years ago

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Speaker 3: on Snapchat.

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Speaker 2: My blood ran cold, and I thought, honestly, the thing

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Speaker 2: that I think annoyed me more than anything else was

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Speaker 2: the mother that said that there should be guidelines around

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Speaker 2: how politicians communicate directly with young people on social media.

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Speaker 2: Now the mother was blurred out, so she didn't have

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Speaker 2: the courage of the convictions to come forward and say

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Speaker 2: what she found. And then the kids, similarly, they were

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Speaker 2: now older of course, because this was this occurred in

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Speaker 2: twenty and sixteen, and it was at a point, I

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Speaker 2: might say, when Snapchat was very much the vogue social

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Speaker 2: media go to platform, and the Act Party in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty spent quite a lot of money with Snapchat for

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Speaker 2: their election campaign. So it was only right that David

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Speaker 2: Seymour was on Snapchat, and it was so innocent and

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Speaker 2: what it denoted was, well, what it suggested luridly was

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Speaker 2: that David Seymour in some way was grooming young kids.

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Speaker 2: They loved getting a reply from a politician totally innocently.

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Speaker 2: It's telling them to look after themselves. I just think

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Speaker 2: it's disgraceful that the news Hub, in the last week

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Speaker 2: of its operation, came out with a story like this,

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Speaker 2: as though it's a damning story for politicians. Chris Bishop

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Speaker 2: was accused similarly back in two thousand and eighty of

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Speaker 2: replying to messages from kids. Well, you know, school kids

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Speaker 2: do go on to vote and they say, but an

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Speaker 2: adult male politician. I wonder if it's a female politician

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Speaker 2: that had replied, if it was Julianne Genter replying to.

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Speaker 1: School women aren't creeps?

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Speaker 2: Oh is that right?

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Speaker 1: That's well, that's the common trope, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well it is.

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Speaker 1: Hey, very quickly, what's Shane Jones up to now?

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Speaker 2: Well, Shane Jones is furious. He had some family competing

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Speaker 2: in a Kapa Haka Secondary school's competition last week and

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Speaker 2: he's furious because he, like a number of New Zealanders,

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Speaker 2: can speak Maori and listened to the waiatas that came

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Speaker 2: with these competing schools. Yeah, and he said that he's

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Speaker 2: convinced that essentially the Kapa haka tutors conditioning these kids

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Speaker 2: to be anti government. And unfortunately, I said to show

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Speaker 2: Shane earlier today, I was talking to him and said

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Speaker 2: I'd like the English translation of some of these wayata

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Speaker 2: by this time that were on air. He hadn't been

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Speaker 2: able to come back to me meetings most of the day,

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Speaker 2: but I'll no doubt see them what the interpretation was.

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Speaker 2: But it goes back, I guess to the hakka the

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Speaker 2: women performed with Pride and Wellington. I think it was

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Speaker 2: wasn't it that they were anti government as well? And honestly,

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Speaker 2: let kids make up the Roman. I'll tell you one

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Speaker 2: thing that he was furious at was that the screaming

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Speaker 2: across Parliament and essentially it's a well known Maldi urn

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Speaker 2: that Maldi blood has wasted on you. What he was

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Speaker 2: furious that was Parliament's youngest MP, Hannah Raffiti. No, my

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Speaker 2: Pie Clark, she's only she was born in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and two, so she's twenty two. She screamed at Winston

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Speaker 2: Peters that term that Maldi blood was wasted on him,

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Speaker 2: and he said that is totally offensive to a man

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Speaker 2: in his late seventies from a twenty two year.

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Speaker 1: Old Barry Thank you, Barry Sober, Senior political correspondence.

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