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Speaker 1: Good news bad news for the eighteen year old Damon Kumar.

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Speaker 1: This is the Overstane, the Associate Immigration Minister. He's decided

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Speaker 1: to give him a residence visa so he can stay

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Speaker 1: in New Zealand. The bad news his parents still facing deportation.

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Speaker 1: The lawyer is Alistair mcclemont. He's with me Hi Alistair

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Speaker 1: Hi Ryan.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 1: Thanks? How's Damon feeling?

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Speaker 2: Well, as you've just said, very mixed emotions. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's absolutely delighted that he can now get on for

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Speaker 2: his life, but now yes and his sister have to

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Speaker 2: face losing their parents. So yeah, it's very difficult for

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Speaker 2: him to really you know, understand how he really feels

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Speaker 2: about this.

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Speaker 1: When are the parents going to be deported because it's

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Speaker 1: obviously been he's eighteen, they've been here the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Is this going to happen soon?

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Speaker 2: Well? Look, usually you know, Immigration zeund are pretty good

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Speaker 2: in talking to people in this sort of situation and

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Speaker 2: trying to negotiate a voluntary departure, So that's really much

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Speaker 2: what's going to happen now? You know, we'll have to

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Speaker 2: talk with Immigration Zone see what's going to happen and

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Speaker 2: talk to the parents and see what they choose to do.

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Speaker 1: They how do they feel. Do they feel guilty about

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Speaker 1: the situation that they've put him in?

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Speaker 2: Well not really. I mean, as we spoke about a

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Speaker 2: little earlier, you know, one of the reasons why the

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Speaker 2: parents did come and did stay was because they do

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Speaker 2: face persistent discrimination in India because of that caste system

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Speaker 2: where they come from, that untouchable cast They wanted to

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Speaker 2: protect their children from this and New Zealand is a

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Speaker 2: country that doesn't have that sort of form of discrimination,

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Speaker 2: and so you know, in some ways they have been

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Speaker 2: successful in saving their children's lives and giving them the future.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it'll encourage others to do the same.

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Speaker 2: Well no, I mean the Minister of Immigration talks about

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Speaker 2: where you know, people come to New Zealand and have

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Speaker 2: babies to try and stand the country, but there are

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Speaker 2: simply no policies whatsoever that enable people to stay in

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Speaker 2: this country simply because they have a baby in this

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Speaker 2: country that.

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Speaker 1: Has a set of no But this shows that you

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Speaker 1: can save your baby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah twenty five years later, Yeah, ma me sure. But

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Speaker 2: you know this gives nothing for the parents whatsoever. Having

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Speaker 2: a New Zealand citizen child gives no rights to the

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Speaker 2: parents to stay here. It never has and it certainly

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Speaker 2: doesn't currently.

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Speaker 1: Alistair, thanks for your time, Alisair mcclemont, Damon Kumar's lawyers.

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