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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up Podcast with Peter

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Speaker 1: Wolfcamp from US talk said by Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

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Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcamp, the Resident Builder

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Speaker 1: on us talk Seat.

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Speaker 2: By the house, sizzle even when it's dark, even when

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Speaker 2: the grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when.

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Speaker 3: The dog is too old to bar, and.

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Speaker 2: When you're sitting at the table trying not to stop

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Speaker 2: sissor home even when well a ban, even when you're there.

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Speaker 2: Houses given, when there's goals given.

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Speaker 4: When you go around from the ones.

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Speaker 2: You love your moms, screamed dose, broken pans appear in

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Speaker 2: fundom locals. We's when they're going THEMS.

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Speaker 4: News Talks B. There we go, We're off and running.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, folks, Welcome along to News Talk's EDB the

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Speaker 4: Resident Builder on Sunday with me Peter Wolfcamp, the Resident Builder,

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Speaker 4: and this is your opportunity to talk all things building

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Speaker 4: and construction. Yes, I know we're a little bit late

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Speaker 4: off the mark, but of course the All Blacks have

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Speaker 4: wrapped up the Northern Tour at one stage called a

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Speaker 4: Grand Slam, but not quite but a fairly convincing victory

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Speaker 4: over Wales. This morning in Cardiff. I presume the game

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Speaker 4: was anyway, we're into it. So if you've got a

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Speaker 4: question of a building nature, then eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 4: ten eighty is the number to call. Text nine to

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Speaker 4: nine too is EDBZB from your mobile phone. And I've

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Speaker 4: just logged into my email, so if you'd like to

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Speaker 4: send me an email and a couple of them are

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Speaker 4: sitting there waiting for me to get stuck into, you

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Speaker 4: can do that as well. It's Pete at newstalksb dot

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Speaker 4: co dot nz. So Pete at newstalokshb dot co dot Nz.

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Speaker 4: But mainly it's the calls that I really enjoy. So

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Speaker 4: if you've got a question, and it might be about

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Speaker 4: it might be about maintenance, it might be about new builds,

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Speaker 4: it might be about contracts. In fact, when I typically

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Speaker 4: when I come into the studio here log into various

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Speaker 4: news sites and in a depressingly regular pattern, there's often

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Speaker 4: stories about builders and about builders in this instance, or

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Speaker 4: building small building company going into liquidation, leaving clients with

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Speaker 4: a partly finished minor dwelling or a little cabin, a

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Speaker 4: out of pocket, and these stories are unfortunately particularly common.

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Speaker 4: So maybe you want to talk about that. Are there

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Speaker 4: better ways?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: There are Actually that's quite a hot topic at the moment.

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Speaker 4: You know, are there better ways of making sure that

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Speaker 4: if you pay money to a contractor within that building circle,

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Speaker 4: that you can ensure that the money isn't spent somewhere

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Speaker 4: else that's actually spent on your project, and that you

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Speaker 4: get what you've paid for. And I'm sure that if

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Speaker 4: we open that particular topic up, there'd be a bunch

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Speaker 4: contracted someone to do a job, we worked out a price,

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Speaker 4: they asked for half the deposit, and I've never seen

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Speaker 5: So is there a.

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Speaker 4: Better way or do you have a particular way of

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Speaker 4: managing contractors to ensure that you get what you've paid for? Oh,

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Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, we're talking maintenance and

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Speaker 4: getting ready for summer. We're not quite a month away

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Speaker 4: from Christmas, but pretty damn close. Is there a bit

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Speaker 4: haven't I haven't picked up that sense of urgency yet

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Speaker 4: from contractors that I might be talking to. About you know,

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Speaker 4: to do some hard landscaping those sorts of things before Christmas.

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Speaker 4: But perhaps you've got a deadline and you might need

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Speaker 4: some help with that. Then we can talk all things

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Speaker 4: building and construction. In the next hour, we are going

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Speaker 4: to have our regular painting expert Bryce McDermott from Razine

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Speaker 4: Color Shops. He's going to be with us at around

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Speaker 4: seven twenty looking forward to that, So if you've got

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Speaker 4: any specific painting questions, please text those through to nine

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Speaker 4: talking a little bit about Integra and panels. And then,

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Speaker 4: of course at eight thirty this morning, as usual Red

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Speaker 4: Climb Pass dialing in to talk all things gardening and

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Speaker 4: the wonderful world of bugs as well. So then amongst

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Speaker 4: all of that, it is time for your calls at

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Speaker 4: the later days of November. December just around the corner.

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Speaker 4: with that. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty all things

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Speaker 4: a great time to call. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done? Right to the

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Speaker 1: resident builder with peta WOLFCAF call.

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Speaker 4: You talk, said, just a quick text before we go

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Speaker 4: to the calls, Pete, what is your advice read brushes

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Speaker 4: in guttering. The brushes seem to rip the leaves to

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Speaker 4: I've just removed them to clear the guttering and not

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Speaker 4: sure if I should put them back. They seem to

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Speaker 4: be easier to clean the gutter without them. Thanks for that,

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Speaker 4: And I kind of know exactly what you mean. There's

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Speaker 4: And when I say large, the damned thing is enormous.

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Speaker 4: I wish someone cut it. I'm not a huge fan

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Speaker 4: it deposits all of its very spiky leaves and that

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Speaker 4: But you're right, you do end up with sediment at

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Speaker 4: of course there are the more permanent solutions in terms

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Speaker 4: couple of options. But if it's something you want to

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Speaker 4: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 6: Oh good morning. This is a bit of a conundrum,

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Speaker 6: and I don't know whether you've got an answer to it.

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Speaker 6: But I'm in a small apartment complex and a tiny

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Speaker 6: to the board. I had two engineers sign off on it,

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Speaker 6: the cost. Now I don't understand really why they would

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Speaker 6: want to appoint another engineer. Are they implying that somehow

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Speaker 4: That would be the implication, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 4: I mean funny. I was listening to a conversation yesterday

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Speaker 4: you know what perhaps people don't fully appreciate is that engineers,

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Speaker 4: as part of if it's a if they're a CPNS member,

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Speaker 4: so the Engineering Association or whatever it is, the professional body, right,

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Speaker 4: unscrupulous is effectively what they're saying in order to benefit you,

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Speaker 4: does cast doubt on the professional standards of the entire body.

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Speaker 4: So someone that you know is going to act for you.

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Speaker 4: Like I presume that what your intention is is that

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Speaker 4: interior petition for your apartment which you own, that you'd

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Speaker 4: can be removed and doesn't require a building consent, you've

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Speaker 4: were to remove the world, it's going to have no

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Speaker 4: impact on the overall structure of the building, et cetera,

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Speaker 6: I mean other apartments have done some of the things. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 6: I'm just a bit perplexed.

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Speaker 4: But I guess the next challenge is, you know, where

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Speaker 4: do you go, Like, you know, body corporates, is there

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Speaker 4: a right to appeal?

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Speaker 6: I guess, I mean, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: if they want to get another engineer. I mean, it's

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Speaker 6: been accepted by counsel. The apartment upstairs. I had a

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Speaker 6: had two engineers look at this particular situation. I mean

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Speaker 6: it's not a big deal. It's an apartment and the

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Speaker 6: wall was or is partition because it was built in

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Speaker 6: nineteen thirty five and it was used as a sort

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Speaker 6: of a screen between the living right kitcheneer. Yes, about

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Speaker 6: twelve other apartments have done very similar things. So it's

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Speaker 6: sort of I'm just perplexed. And I mean, all right,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I guess if they want another opinion, they can,

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Speaker 6: but why should I have to pay?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I agree, Yeah, well that's right. The other thing that

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Speaker 4: does happen, and this is more in terms of building consent,

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Speaker 4: So I'll just tell you sort of a comparison story.

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Speaker 4: I guess. So, if, for example, you're doing a new

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Speaker 4: submitting a building consent, there's engineering involved. You contract your

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Speaker 4: engineer to provide the calculations and a PS one for

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Speaker 4: the design and so on. That gets submitted to counsel

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Speaker 4: and then in the building consent process, council engineers will

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Speaker 4: check that. Right now, the way around that is to

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Speaker 4: pay to have a peer review of the engineering done

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Speaker 4: by your engineer by another engineer. And then, as I

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Speaker 4: understand it, and it may have changed, but my understanding

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Speaker 4: have been peer reviewed, their engineer typically doesn't look at

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Speaker 9: Yeah, good mining better. I've got eighty square meters of

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Speaker 4: good luck and stay tuned because in about half an

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Speaker 4: hour all the best take care berry, thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: It is six fifty two.

433
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Speaker 1: Doing the house sorting the garden lasked feet for it

434
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Speaker 1: and the resident builder with Peter wolfcab Call eighty eight

435
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Speaker 1: used dogs'b So we were.

436
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Speaker 4: Off to a bit of a late start this morning.

437
00:25:14,615 --> 00:25:16,975
Speaker 4: So just a couple of calls in that first hour

438
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Speaker 4: after the fabulous commentary actually of the All Blacks match

439
00:25:20,095 --> 00:25:22,855
Speaker 4: against Wales. So we've got new Sport and where the

440
00:25:22,975 --> 00:25:25,015
Speaker 4: top of they are at seven o'clock coming up in

441
00:25:25,095 --> 00:25:27,495
Speaker 4: just a moment if you'd like to join us after

442
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Speaker 4: seven o'clock call now, oh eight hundred and eighty ten

443
00:25:30,495 --> 00:25:33,255
Speaker 4: eighty is that number to call just on the minor

444
00:25:33,375 --> 00:25:37,975
Speaker 4: dwellings or simple standalone dwellings or granny flat Pete. I

445
00:25:38,135 --> 00:25:41,815
Speaker 4: just got told by Selwyn District, just outside of christ

446
00:25:41,855 --> 00:25:44,735
Speaker 4: Church we cannot build a granny flat. We can, however,

447
00:25:44,855 --> 00:25:49,215
Speaker 4: build a minor residential unit. Get with the times, is

448
00:25:49,375 --> 00:25:52,935
Speaker 4: l so minor residential unit. I mean that's it's a

449
00:25:52,975 --> 00:25:58,895
Speaker 4: granny flat by another name. A little bit more information

450
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Speaker 4: Ellen on that one. I'm quite intrigued whether or not

451
00:26:02,135 --> 00:26:04,575
Speaker 4: because the other thing is just because you can doesn't

452
00:26:04,575 --> 00:26:06,935
Speaker 4: mean that councils will accept it. I I wonder whether

453
00:26:07,095 --> 00:26:10,575
Speaker 4: we'll see that some local councils will say, look, we

454
00:26:10,615 --> 00:26:14,815
Speaker 4: don't have the infrastructure, the we've got issues with site coverage,

455
00:26:14,935 --> 00:26:19,455
Speaker 4: we've got issues with car parking. And they may well

456
00:26:19,615 --> 00:26:21,975
Speaker 4: say you can apply, but it doesn't mean you're going

457
00:26:22,055 --> 00:26:23,615
Speaker 4: to be able to do it. But remember you do

458
00:26:23,775 --> 00:26:27,055
Speaker 4: actually need to apply. Radio we're back after new sport

459
00:26:27,095 --> 00:26:27,415
Speaker 4: and weather.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're painting with ceiling, fixing with feds, or wondering

461
00:26:34,815 --> 00:26:36,895
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall, give Peter

462
00:26:37,015 --> 00:26:41,895
Speaker 1: Wolfcap call on eight eighty the resident builder on Newstalks

463
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Speaker 1: at b Well.

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Speaker 4: Very good morning, welcome back to the program. My name's

465
00:26:45,415 --> 00:26:47,575
Speaker 4: Pete wolf Camp, the resident builder, and this is an

466
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Speaker 4: opportunity for you to talk all things building and constructions.

467
00:26:50,855 --> 00:26:53,735
Speaker 4: At six minutes after seven, the lines are open. Eight

468
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Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call. You

469
00:26:56,775 --> 00:26:59,615
Speaker 4: can text of course nine two nine to two and

470
00:26:59,815 --> 00:27:03,095
Speaker 4: you can also email me. It's Pete Atnewstalk sb dot

471
00:27:03,175 --> 00:27:06,975
Speaker 4: co dot m said, a couple of painting texts are

472
00:27:07,055 --> 00:27:10,295
Speaker 4: coming through, which is awesome because our painting expert Bryce

473
00:27:10,735 --> 00:27:13,215
Speaker 4: from Razine Color Shops, he'll be with us at around

474
00:27:13,335 --> 00:27:16,415
Speaker 4: seven twenty this morning. So if you've got an thinking

475
00:27:16,455 --> 00:27:18,615
Speaker 4: about projects, you think about doing a bit of painting.

476
00:27:18,695 --> 00:27:21,375
Speaker 4: Actually that's what well, it was one of my jobs

477
00:27:21,455 --> 00:27:23,735
Speaker 4: during the course of this week, just tidying up a

478
00:27:23,775 --> 00:27:32,815
Speaker 4: property where painted about six seven years ago, a dark color.

479
00:27:33,015 --> 00:27:35,255
Speaker 4: Painted well, but still just a little bit of fading,

480
00:27:35,335 --> 00:27:40,495
Speaker 4: little bit of you know surface, just a little bit

481
00:27:40,495 --> 00:27:42,295
Speaker 4: of bubbling, and I just ah, I want it to

482
00:27:42,375 --> 00:27:46,215
Speaker 4: look really good. So sand it, clean it first, that's

483
00:27:46,255 --> 00:27:48,815
Speaker 4: the important thing. Clean it first, get the surface prep right,

484
00:27:49,175 --> 00:27:53,295
Speaker 4: bit of sanding, spot prime, first coat, went back and

485
00:27:53,455 --> 00:27:56,775
Speaker 4: did second coat on was Friday afternoon. I think it

486
00:27:56,935 --> 00:28:01,495
Speaker 4: was looks great to be fair, good prep, good paint,

487
00:28:01,655 --> 00:28:04,015
Speaker 4: good gear. That's what you need to do a good job. Oh,

488
00:28:04,055 --> 00:28:06,175
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

489
00:28:06,575 --> 00:28:08,855
Speaker 4: someone else's text through. I did a patch up of

490
00:28:08,935 --> 00:28:11,895
Speaker 4: some paint work with some old paint. The area now

491
00:28:11,975 --> 00:28:14,135
Speaker 4: smells awful well that's the sort of question that we'll

492
00:28:14,175 --> 00:28:16,455
Speaker 4: be asking Bryce in a moment, but before then, it's

493
00:28:16,535 --> 00:28:18,695
Speaker 4: your opportunity. So if you've got a question, oh eight

494
00:28:18,815 --> 00:28:21,095
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

495
00:28:21,495 --> 00:28:23,575
Speaker 4: I'm also looking at it's a story actually on the

496
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Speaker 4: stuff website this morning about a couple that paid a

497
00:28:27,775 --> 00:28:32,895
Speaker 4: seven thousand dollar deposit to a tiny home manufacturer who

498
00:28:34,055 --> 00:28:36,695
Speaker 4: has basically built them a frame, dropped it off on

499
00:28:36,895 --> 00:28:40,375
Speaker 4: site on a couple of blocks, nothing more than just

500
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Speaker 4: timber framing, right, So seven thousand dollars later, that's what

501
00:28:46,695 --> 00:28:49,575
Speaker 4: they've got and the person has gone into liquidation. Now,

502
00:28:49,615 --> 00:28:51,855
Speaker 4: as we know that business is tough at the moment,

503
00:28:52,215 --> 00:28:54,135
Speaker 4: and there is a lot of liquidations, a lot of

504
00:28:54,215 --> 00:28:57,175
Speaker 4: them being presented by Inland Revenue. So I'm reading through

505
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Speaker 4: the story. The report says, alongside a debt of four

506
00:29:00,895 --> 00:29:04,215
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty nine thousand dollars to Inland Revenue, the

507
00:29:04,295 --> 00:29:07,775
Speaker 4: company owes another eighteen thousand dollars to an unsecured creditor

508
00:29:08,215 --> 00:29:10,895
Speaker 4: and one hundred and fourteen thousand dollars to Hartland Bank.

509
00:29:11,055 --> 00:29:14,495
Speaker 4: This is all in the you know, it's public information, right.

510
00:29:16,935 --> 00:29:19,695
Speaker 4: Four hundred and fifty nine thousand dollars to inland revenue.

511
00:29:20,815 --> 00:29:22,695
Speaker 4: So they are the people have tipped them into liquidation.

512
00:29:23,895 --> 00:29:26,175
Speaker 4: You may care to comment, oh, eight hundred eighty ten

513
00:29:26,295 --> 00:29:28,335
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call it. Other text that's

514
00:29:28,375 --> 00:29:31,815
Speaker 4: come through from Rob morning peak distrust in professionals question

515
00:29:31,895 --> 00:29:34,255
Speaker 4: mark sounds like having to become an LBP. Dad was

516
00:29:34,255 --> 00:29:37,175
Speaker 4: a qualified old school builder of thirty plus years who

517
00:29:37,215 --> 00:29:39,655
Speaker 4: did everything from the foundation through the roof and everything

518
00:29:39,695 --> 00:29:42,575
Speaker 4: in between, and yet was forced to prove his ability

519
00:29:42,695 --> 00:29:45,215
Speaker 4: and pay towards the LBP introduction to be allowed to

520
00:29:45,295 --> 00:29:52,015
Speaker 4: continue building. Qualified obviously didn't mean anything then either. I

521
00:29:52,135 --> 00:29:53,895
Speaker 4: hear what you're saying, Rob, but I have to say

522
00:29:53,895 --> 00:29:56,095
Speaker 4: I'm a fan of the LBP scheme. I think it

523
00:29:56,215 --> 00:29:59,015
Speaker 4: can be improved. It should be improved, particularly in terms

524
00:29:59,055 --> 00:30:05,055
Speaker 4: of carpentry. Have we got the benefits out of it yet?

525
00:30:06,415 --> 00:30:11,255
Speaker 4: Really good question. Here's my hot take on the LBP scheme,

526
00:30:11,335 --> 00:30:15,655
Speaker 4: particularly as we move to things like the standalone simple

527
00:30:15,695 --> 00:30:19,895
Speaker 4: standalone dwellings or granny flats, that if we're going to

528
00:30:20,255 --> 00:30:23,055
Speaker 4: ask more of LBPS, there should be more than one

529
00:30:23,175 --> 00:30:26,335
Speaker 4: class for an LBP license. So if you have a

530
00:30:26,375 --> 00:30:30,375
Speaker 4: look at the LBP scheme. In general, there are different classes.

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Speaker 4: You can be registered as an LBP with a site

532
00:30:33,855 --> 00:30:36,615
Speaker 4: license right, and you can be site one, two and

533
00:30:36,815 --> 00:30:40,815
Speaker 4: three if you're designing. I think there's different categories for that.

534
00:30:41,415 --> 00:30:45,335
Speaker 4: If you have, like me, an LBP license. In carpentry,

535
00:30:45,415 --> 00:30:51,335
Speaker 4: there's just one license class, so essentially there's no determining

536
00:30:51,535 --> 00:30:55,935
Speaker 4: any additional proficiency. Let's say you could have someone who's

537
00:30:56,055 --> 00:31:00,935
Speaker 4: recently qualified who meets the criteria and gets their LBP license,

538
00:31:01,455 --> 00:31:05,015
Speaker 4: and someone else who may be like Rob's dad thirty

539
00:31:05,095 --> 00:31:09,095
Speaker 4: years experiencedne a wide range of work, and their license

540
00:31:09,215 --> 00:31:12,535
Speaker 4: is essentially the same as someone either of less competency

541
00:31:12,735 --> 00:31:18,295
Speaker 4: which happens, or less experience, maybe even less integrity. So

542
00:31:18,415 --> 00:31:22,015
Speaker 4: I actually think they should introduce different They should have

543
00:31:22,095 --> 00:31:25,735
Speaker 4: carpentry one, two and three, and that let's say, things

544
00:31:25,815 --> 00:31:30,495
Speaker 4: like remote inspections or self certifying could then only be

545
00:31:30,655 --> 00:31:33,535
Speaker 4: done by people who have achieved a higher level of

546
00:31:33,575 --> 00:31:36,815
Speaker 4: qualification within the existing system. We don't need to strip

547
00:31:36,855 --> 00:31:38,815
Speaker 4: the whole thing out and start again. But I do

548
00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:41,535
Speaker 4: really think that there should be more than just one

549
00:31:41,775 --> 00:31:47,295
Speaker 4: licensed class for carpentry LBPS. We're going to be talking

550
00:31:47,335 --> 00:31:49,415
Speaker 4: painting soon, So if you've got some painted questions. Bryce

551
00:31:49,455 --> 00:31:50,975
Speaker 4: w to be along in about ten minutes or so,

552
00:31:51,535 --> 00:31:53,535
Speaker 4: but right now we're talking to Glenn and a very

553
00:31:53,575 --> 00:31:57,455
Speaker 4: good morning to you. Morning Peter, greetings.

554
00:31:58,015 --> 00:31:59,575
Speaker 10: Good look. I just want to talk to you about

555
00:32:00,415 --> 00:32:06,935
Speaker 10: heightening a brock hall. I've got a here that's been

556
00:32:08,135 --> 00:32:12,695
Speaker 10: here for fifty odd years yep, and the neighbor wants

557
00:32:12,735 --> 00:32:15,895
Speaker 10: to make it higher. Yes, now, it's only it's only

558
00:32:15,975 --> 00:32:17,255
Speaker 10: one hundred mile blocks.

559
00:32:18,055 --> 00:32:20,295
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they are blocks rather than bricks.

560
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Speaker 10: The blocks, yes, yeah, but see that there's no steel

561
00:32:25,575 --> 00:32:31,935
Speaker 10: in them. They're only one hundred mill blocks. And also

562
00:32:32,255 --> 00:32:35,215
Speaker 10: decorative blocks as well. You know the square ones with

563
00:32:35,335 --> 00:32:37,815
Speaker 10: the with the with the design on them.

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00:32:38,055 --> 00:32:40,655
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I know, the the quite of old fashion.

565
00:32:40,775 --> 00:32:43,135
Speaker 4: It's come back into fashion, that type of thing, is it.

566
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Speaker 10: Yes, these blocks are these blocks are five decades old? Yes,

567
00:32:47,895 --> 00:32:50,775
Speaker 10: but I told this chap that I don't think you

568
00:32:50,815 --> 00:32:54,775
Speaker 10: can put more blocks on top because it's not reinforced.

569
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Speaker 4: And right like typically these things are low decorative wall.

570
00:33:02,935 --> 00:33:04,815
Speaker 4: So how high is the wall at the moment.

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Speaker 10: Was under a meter. It goes from the main fence,

572
00:33:08,415 --> 00:33:11,455
Speaker 10: which is two meters high yep, one point eight out

573
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Speaker 10: to the foot path.

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00:33:14,655 --> 00:33:18,815
Speaker 4: Gotcha, okay, And the neighbor is proposing to add more

575
00:33:18,895 --> 00:33:23,855
Speaker 4: of the same type of block to it. A distance

576
00:33:23,895 --> 00:33:26,455
Speaker 4: sign okay, so it's going to go from a meter

577
00:33:26,575 --> 00:33:28,015
Speaker 4: to one point eight, so it's going to have eight

578
00:33:28,135 --> 00:33:31,295
Speaker 4: hundred millimeters put on top. And over what distance? What's

579
00:33:31,335 --> 00:33:32,215
Speaker 4: the distance from the.

580
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Speaker 10: End of nine nine Yes long, it's nine meters long

581
00:33:39,655 --> 00:33:40,895
Speaker 10: in that nine meter run.

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Speaker 4: Are there any columns?

583
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Speaker 10: One column? Now I can't recall whether there's there's still

584
00:33:47,895 --> 00:33:52,215
Speaker 10: in that column either. Maybe not. This is too far

585
00:33:52,335 --> 00:33:54,215
Speaker 10: it's too far back from here to remember.

586
00:33:57,095 --> 00:33:57,295
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean the practical consideration is what's going to keep

588
00:34:00,255 --> 00:34:05,495
Speaker 4: it standing up right? And if if you were to

589
00:34:05,615 --> 00:34:08,695
Speaker 4: do so thing like that, typically you would have columns

590
00:34:08,815 --> 00:34:11,655
Speaker 4: let's say at I don't know maybe whatever the block

591
00:34:11,695 --> 00:34:14,335
Speaker 4: module is. So typically there are four hundred block so

592
00:34:14,495 --> 00:34:17,575
Speaker 4: you might find it every two meters there'll be a

593
00:34:17,695 --> 00:34:21,495
Speaker 4: column that will be reinforced and solid filled, and then

594
00:34:21,775 --> 00:34:24,535
Speaker 4: that provides some stability. But I think that if they

595
00:34:24,575 --> 00:34:28,295
Speaker 4: were just to lay these types of blocks nine meters long,

596
00:34:28,575 --> 00:34:32,575
Speaker 4: four courses or two courses high, you'd be worried that

597
00:34:32,615 --> 00:34:34,775
Speaker 4: it would start to topple, because you also don't know

598
00:34:34,895 --> 00:34:36,575
Speaker 4: what the foundations are like, right.

599
00:34:37,295 --> 00:34:39,655
Speaker 10: Well it should be okay because there's been there for

600
00:34:39,815 --> 00:34:40,215
Speaker 10: so long.

601
00:34:41,015 --> 00:34:43,015
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's only been there for so long at

602
00:34:43,095 --> 00:34:46,015
Speaker 4: that height, So add height to it, you're adding weight

603
00:34:46,215 --> 00:34:48,775
Speaker 4: and you're adding potentially leverage.

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00:34:50,735 --> 00:34:51,015
Speaker 5: To it.

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Speaker 10: So I have told this that it isn't really our concern.

606
00:34:56,855 --> 00:35:00,695
Speaker 10: You know, we've had the block more there for a

607
00:35:00,855 --> 00:35:03,775
Speaker 10: long long time and it certainly really a whim.

608
00:35:05,135 --> 00:35:05,335
Speaker 8: Right.

609
00:35:06,335 --> 00:35:09,655
Speaker 10: He approached us for half half the payment. Well we've

610
00:35:09,655 --> 00:35:11,815
Speaker 10: already told him that there won't be any half payment

611
00:35:12,495 --> 00:35:14,615
Speaker 10: because really it is now a concern.

612
00:35:15,295 --> 00:35:18,495
Speaker 4: Well, that's right, I mean there's because in terms of

613
00:35:18,535 --> 00:35:21,535
Speaker 4: the Fencing Act, you have to prove that the fence

614
00:35:22,295 --> 00:35:25,775
Speaker 4: requires replacement. So there's an existing fence there, it's been okay,

615
00:35:25,895 --> 00:35:28,055
Speaker 4: it's done what you've And also the other thing is

616
00:35:28,135 --> 00:35:31,375
Speaker 4: too if if they were to enforce it and you

617
00:35:31,495 --> 00:35:34,215
Speaker 4: decide that no, well I'd rather make a contribution than

618
00:35:34,255 --> 00:35:38,335
Speaker 4: having some sort of argument. The contribution can only be

619
00:35:39,055 --> 00:35:42,815
Speaker 4: half the value of a standard fence. So if the

620
00:35:42,975 --> 00:35:45,775
Speaker 4: blocks and the block layer and all the rest of

621
00:35:45,855 --> 00:35:48,535
Speaker 4: it are more expensive than half the value of a

622
00:35:48,655 --> 00:35:51,655
Speaker 4: standard fence, you don't need to contribute to that.

623
00:35:53,775 --> 00:35:57,015
Speaker 10: Okay, so it's more than half the stand half.

624
00:35:56,855 --> 00:35:59,455
Speaker 4: The cost yea of a standard fence standard.

625
00:35:59,335 --> 00:36:01,935
Speaker 10: So standard well an you mean standard?

626
00:36:02,055 --> 00:36:05,015
Speaker 4: Well, in the Act, what it's defined is as a

627
00:36:05,295 --> 00:36:08,335
Speaker 4: one hundred by one hundred at two meters centuries with

628
00:36:08,495 --> 00:36:11,735
Speaker 4: three rails and six for one boards closely fitted. So

629
00:36:12,255 --> 00:36:16,295
Speaker 4: that's roughly roughly sort of one hundred and forty dollars

630
00:36:16,335 --> 00:36:19,335
Speaker 4: a square meter a linear meter, in which case if

631
00:36:19,375 --> 00:36:22,495
Speaker 4: you've got nine then you have that. That's all that

632
00:36:22,575 --> 00:36:24,015
Speaker 4: you have to pay. So if they come to you

633
00:36:24,055 --> 00:36:25,695
Speaker 4: and say, well, look my block layer's given me a

634
00:36:25,735 --> 00:36:27,495
Speaker 4: price for four and a half thousand, and the blocks

635
00:36:27,495 --> 00:36:30,095
Speaker 4: are another thousand, and I want two thousand, you don't

636
00:36:30,095 --> 00:36:30,575
Speaker 4: have to pay that.

637
00:36:31,815 --> 00:36:36,055
Speaker 10: Okay, all right. That's the other thing, not really any

638
00:36:36,335 --> 00:36:37,815
Speaker 10: obligation of the painting.

639
00:36:38,735 --> 00:36:41,935
Speaker 4: I really don't think that you do. Because there is

640
00:36:42,015 --> 00:36:45,495
Speaker 4: a fence there. It's not falling down. It's been there

641
00:36:45,535 --> 00:36:48,735
Speaker 4: and it's been accepted by both parties. It's it's an improvement,

642
00:36:48,815 --> 00:36:50,815
Speaker 4: and if they want to make an improvement, that's kind

643
00:36:50,855 --> 00:36:53,095
Speaker 4: of on them, right, Okay.

644
00:36:53,695 --> 00:36:57,095
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't want to be any argument, of course,

645
00:36:57,135 --> 00:37:00,455
Speaker 10: you know. Yeah, I'm just feeling I mean it could

646
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Speaker 10: be thousands to get them heightened.

647
00:37:04,095 --> 00:37:06,895
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well it could be to wait until

648
00:37:06,895 --> 00:37:09,055
Speaker 4: the pricing comes in. But I think you're right to

649
00:37:09,175 --> 00:37:12,375
Speaker 4: have some concern around what happens if you stack a

650
00:37:12,775 --> 00:37:15,935
Speaker 4: couple more courses of blocks onto there. What's going to

651
00:37:16,015 --> 00:37:18,095
Speaker 4: keep it up right? What's going to happen to the wind?

652
00:37:18,775 --> 00:37:20,975
Speaker 4: Does it add more weight to the wall, which is

653
00:37:21,335 --> 00:37:23,695
Speaker 4: going to make it prone to falling over? And if

654
00:37:23,735 --> 00:37:28,295
Speaker 4: there's not columns every you know, two meters or so,

655
00:37:29,775 --> 00:37:30,895
Speaker 4: what's going to keep it up right?

656
00:37:31,855 --> 00:37:34,335
Speaker 10: Only one column one column along its length?

657
00:37:36,295 --> 00:37:38,215
Speaker 4: I mean, I'd be interested in the quake text from

658
00:37:38,215 --> 00:37:40,375
Speaker 4: a block layer who might look at this and go, no, no,

659
00:37:40,575 --> 00:37:43,055
Speaker 4: it'll be fine. But I think caution is.

660
00:37:45,535 --> 00:37:46,415
Speaker 10: I think you're dead right.

661
00:37:48,135 --> 00:37:50,375
Speaker 4: A little bit of caution not a bad thing. I

662
00:37:50,455 --> 00:37:54,455
Speaker 4: think all the very best I could luck to take

663
00:37:54,495 --> 00:37:58,175
Speaker 4: care follow that. It is funny to see this particular block,

664
00:37:58,215 --> 00:37:59,895
Speaker 4: and I can remember it as a kid, I think

665
00:38:00,735 --> 00:38:04,455
Speaker 4: at home, so we're talking, you know, nineteen seventies, early

666
00:38:04,575 --> 00:38:07,735
Speaker 4: nineteen eighties, we had the entrance to the driveway like

667
00:38:07,815 --> 00:38:10,575
Speaker 4: a little plant, a raised planter box, and it used

668
00:38:10,615 --> 00:38:12,895
Speaker 4: those particular I'll look them up then, I've got the

669
00:38:12,935 --> 00:38:14,775
Speaker 4: proper name for it, but they are kind of a

670
00:38:14,855 --> 00:38:18,095
Speaker 4: decorative block, like a breeze block that you could go through.

671
00:38:18,175 --> 00:38:20,575
Speaker 4: And I've seen them in modern houses that want that

672
00:38:20,695 --> 00:38:24,375
Speaker 4: mid century classic look. They're using them again as well,

673
00:38:24,535 --> 00:38:27,735
Speaker 4: So it's like flares coming back into style. Oh, eight

674
00:38:27,855 --> 00:38:30,135
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty. We're going to talk to Bryce

675
00:38:30,335 --> 00:38:32,775
Speaker 4: after the break, So if you've got any painting questions,

676
00:38:32,855 --> 00:38:36,935
Speaker 4: text them through right now. Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

677
00:38:37,135 --> 00:38:40,455
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder

678
00:38:40,695 --> 00:38:41,695
Speaker 1: on NEWSTALKSB.

679
00:38:42,335 --> 00:38:44,935
Speaker 4: So with the weather warming up in the season starting

680
00:38:45,015 --> 00:38:47,055
Speaker 4: to change, it won't be long before you're out getting

681
00:38:47,055 --> 00:38:49,775
Speaker 4: stuck into the garden and enjoying that fresh air. Spring

682
00:38:49,975 --> 00:38:52,455
Speaker 4: is the perfect time to get your garden growing. And

683
00:38:52,615 --> 00:38:56,215
Speaker 4: what's the secret to bigger, stronger and more productive plants.

684
00:38:56,415 --> 00:39:00,175
Speaker 4: It's root blast if you haven't heard. Root blast gives

685
00:39:00,255 --> 00:39:03,295
Speaker 4: your plants that little extra boost of nutrients they need

686
00:39:03,415 --> 00:39:07,055
Speaker 4: to grow abundantly. Simply add root blast to your soil

687
00:39:07,175 --> 00:39:10,815
Speaker 4: and watch your plants grow. Whether it's flowers, veggies, trees,

688
00:39:10,975 --> 00:39:14,175
Speaker 4: or the humble houseplant, a little sprinkle of root blast

689
00:39:14,295 --> 00:39:17,455
Speaker 4: helps build stronger plants from the roots up and plays

690
00:39:17,495 --> 00:39:21,415
Speaker 4: a part in creating healthier leaf structures. In turn, you'll

691
00:39:21,455 --> 00:39:24,055
Speaker 4: have plants that every green thumb will be jealous of.

692
00:39:24,375 --> 00:39:28,975
Speaker 4: It's environmentally safe, hormone free, and disease resistance, so no

693
00:39:29,175 --> 00:39:31,855
Speaker 4: need to worry about all those nasty things. Plus it's

694
00:39:31,895 --> 00:39:35,215
Speaker 4: easy to use one application, no need to mix with water.

695
00:39:35,655 --> 00:39:38,215
Speaker 4: Get the most out of your garden this spring. To

696
00:39:38,335 --> 00:39:41,615
Speaker 4: get your hands on root Blast, call eight hundred root

697
00:39:41,695 --> 00:39:45,615
Speaker 4: Blast search root Blast dot co dot Nz or see

698
00:39:45,775 --> 00:39:50,535
Speaker 4: your nearest garden center. Z be riti own new silk seed.

699
00:39:50,575 --> 00:39:53,135
Speaker 4: B will it feels like when the days get a

700
00:39:53,175 --> 00:39:56,055
Speaker 4: little bit longer and the temperature warms up and the

701
00:39:56,255 --> 00:39:59,135
Speaker 4: sun's maybe just a little bit more reliable, that we

702
00:39:59,295 --> 00:40:03,775
Speaker 4: start to think about painting outdoors in particular. Bryce McDermott

703
00:40:03,815 --> 00:40:05,055
Speaker 4: A very good morning to you, sir.

704
00:40:05,735 --> 00:40:06,255
Speaker 2: Good morning.

705
00:40:06,495 --> 00:40:10,295
Speaker 4: How are you very well actually, And one of the

706
00:40:10,415 --> 00:40:12,535
Speaker 4: tasks for me this week was a little bit of

707
00:40:12,695 --> 00:40:15,215
Speaker 4: you know, care and maintenance and so on. So a

708
00:40:15,255 --> 00:40:16,975
Speaker 4: little bit of a touch up to some painting that

709
00:40:17,175 --> 00:40:20,735
Speaker 4: I actually did about five or six years ago, So

710
00:40:20,815 --> 00:40:22,615
Speaker 4: a little bit of you know, a bit of preparation,

711
00:40:22,975 --> 00:40:26,495
Speaker 4: bit of the razine house wash and prep, a little

712
00:40:26,495 --> 00:40:29,255
Speaker 4: bit of sanding, a little bit of primer top coats.

713
00:40:29,455 --> 00:40:32,735
Speaker 4: It's actually come up really well. So we're all starting

714
00:40:32,815 --> 00:40:36,215
Speaker 4: to think outdoors. But safety is also going to be

715
00:40:36,295 --> 00:40:38,495
Speaker 4: really important. So what are some of those key tips

716
00:40:38,535 --> 00:40:39,895
Speaker 4: that you know, all the gear has been in the

717
00:40:39,935 --> 00:40:40,935
Speaker 4: shed for a while, what do.

718
00:40:41,015 --> 00:40:42,815
Speaker 10: We do well?

719
00:40:42,895 --> 00:40:45,695
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, check your leaders and stuff like that,

720
00:40:45,935 --> 00:40:48,415
Speaker 8: just to make sure they're all holding together and they're

721
00:40:48,455 --> 00:40:50,535
Speaker 8: not going to collapse underneath you and stuff like that

722
00:40:50,655 --> 00:40:54,295
Speaker 8: when you get on them. Make sure that all your

723
00:40:54,375 --> 00:40:58,975
Speaker 8: electrical gear is safe and ready to go. Get tagged yep,

724
00:40:59,175 --> 00:41:03,935
Speaker 8: you know, just get it checked out, extension leads, maybe

725
00:41:04,015 --> 00:41:06,015
Speaker 8: even the radio when you're listening to the cricket, get

726
00:41:06,055 --> 00:41:10,415
Speaker 8: that ag as well. I'm joking there, but you know,

727
00:41:11,655 --> 00:41:17,055
Speaker 8: it's basically just common sense and making sure that you

728
00:41:17,255 --> 00:41:19,215
Speaker 8: end up coming back from the holidays even though you

729
00:41:19,295 --> 00:41:22,775
Speaker 8: don't want to sometimes, but yeah, it just make sure

730
00:41:22,815 --> 00:41:24,615
Speaker 8: you've got all the gear. It's all ready to go.

731
00:41:25,335 --> 00:41:27,335
Speaker 8: You've got all the proper tools and everything, all your

732
00:41:27,375 --> 00:41:29,575
Speaker 8: brushes and rolls and everything like that are all good

733
00:41:29,615 --> 00:41:33,295
Speaker 8: to go. And you know, and when you're working at

734
00:41:33,375 --> 00:41:35,615
Speaker 8: height and make sure, there's also somebody at home with you.

735
00:41:35,855 --> 00:41:37,575
Speaker 8: Just keep an eye in case you fall off.

736
00:41:38,055 --> 00:41:38,295
Speaker 5: Yeah.

737
00:41:38,975 --> 00:41:41,695
Speaker 4: Yeah, Actually that's a really good tip. And I know that,

738
00:41:42,015 --> 00:41:47,095
Speaker 4: you know, like I've seen someone fall from heights. It was,

739
00:41:47,215 --> 00:41:49,735
Speaker 4: you know, stepping off a roof and missed their footing

740
00:41:49,815 --> 00:41:53,055
Speaker 4: and plummeted to the ground. So I think once you've

741
00:41:53,095 --> 00:41:55,655
Speaker 4: seen something like that, and I know other people who

742
00:41:55,655 --> 00:41:59,215
Speaker 4: have had, you know, life changing injuries as a result

743
00:41:59,255 --> 00:42:02,375
Speaker 4: of just that moment's either in attention or perhaps some

744
00:42:02,575 --> 00:42:06,135
Speaker 4: gear that wasn't really up to you know, the sometimes

745
00:42:06,335 --> 00:42:08,695
Speaker 4: the older ladders, you go, oh, the stay has fallen off.

746
00:42:08,735 --> 00:42:10,935
Speaker 4: That'll be all right, I'll just use one stay or

747
00:42:11,455 --> 00:42:14,815
Speaker 4: the little flat that comes down and locates it into place,

748
00:42:14,935 --> 00:42:17,695
Speaker 4: that sort of thing that might get missing, and those

749
00:42:17,735 --> 00:42:20,575
Speaker 4: sorts of things like you in many cases you just

750
00:42:20,655 --> 00:42:22,535
Speaker 4: get one chance, and I just don't think it's a

751
00:42:22,615 --> 00:42:26,535
Speaker 4: chance worth taking. So yeah, really safe out there.

752
00:42:27,375 --> 00:42:30,935
Speaker 8: Yeah, and even if if it warrants it, you know,

753
00:42:31,175 --> 00:42:33,495
Speaker 8: if you're having the mobile scaff.

754
00:42:33,215 --> 00:42:39,295
Speaker 4: Go out and yeah, absolutely, And again you know, I've

755
00:42:39,335 --> 00:42:41,415
Speaker 4: got a little bit of that gear myself, and I'm

756
00:42:41,735 --> 00:42:44,375
Speaker 4: when I'm using it, I'm thinking this feels so much

757
00:42:44,615 --> 00:42:49,535
Speaker 4: more comfortable and safe and convenient and quicker. You know,

758
00:42:49,615 --> 00:42:52,455
Speaker 4: if you if you can paint over the length of

759
00:42:52,615 --> 00:42:54,935
Speaker 4: let's say a two meter scaffold, right, and you're doing

760
00:42:54,975 --> 00:42:58,255
Speaker 4: some weatherboards, that's way easier to paint rather than a

761
00:42:58,375 --> 00:43:00,455
Speaker 4: ladder where you're trying to reach out, and it's that

762
00:43:00,695 --> 00:43:05,615
Speaker 4: overreaching that I think often causes problems. Right, Hey, look, actually,

763
00:43:05,655 --> 00:43:08,295
Speaker 4: can we start with a caller that we had just

764
00:43:08,375 --> 00:43:11,775
Speaker 4: before the news at seven o'clock Barry who's just put

765
00:43:11,855 --> 00:43:15,655
Speaker 4: down eighty square meters of new pine decking, knows that

766
00:43:15,775 --> 00:43:17,895
Speaker 4: he wants to do a coating, but a little bit

767
00:43:18,015 --> 00:43:21,055
Speaker 4: unsure about where to go. What would you say, so

768
00:43:21,295 --> 00:43:25,135
Speaker 4: new pine decking a couple of weeks old, a couple.

769
00:43:24,975 --> 00:43:29,095
Speaker 12: Of weeks old, i'd believe it to weather for about

770
00:43:29,175 --> 00:43:33,775
Speaker 12: three months, Yes, and then you can consider staining it

771
00:43:34,855 --> 00:43:35,575
Speaker 12: or painting it.

772
00:43:35,975 --> 00:43:36,175
Speaker 5: Yep.

773
00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:41,455
Speaker 8: We you know, we've got Woodsman decking stain wood oil

774
00:43:41,615 --> 00:43:47,215
Speaker 8: that will stain the deck quite nicely. Obviously it's treated.

775
00:43:47,375 --> 00:43:49,015
Speaker 8: So if you're going to paint it, you'll need a

776
00:43:49,055 --> 00:43:51,695
Speaker 8: full coat of wood primer and a couple of coats

777
00:43:51,735 --> 00:43:57,135
Speaker 8: of walk on, which is a good non slip product

778
00:43:57,775 --> 00:43:59,055
Speaker 8: if you want to paint it that is.

779
00:43:59,295 --> 00:44:02,615
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, you know, if you want to keep

780
00:44:02,655 --> 00:44:05,575
Speaker 4: that natural look. Obviously we're talking oils and then and

781
00:44:05,735 --> 00:44:09,095
Speaker 4: so you're three months, let it really flash off, then

782
00:44:09,255 --> 00:44:13,295
Speaker 4: give it a chemical clean and then apply the sealer

783
00:44:13,495 --> 00:44:15,255
Speaker 4: and that helps open up the grain as well.

784
00:44:16,375 --> 00:44:16,575
Speaker 7: Yeah.

785
00:44:16,655 --> 00:44:19,535
Speaker 8: I mean it's just to sort of just to let

786
00:44:19,575 --> 00:44:21,935
Speaker 8: it settle and let the tree and try out.

787
00:44:22,015 --> 00:44:22,175
Speaker 5: You know.

788
00:44:22,415 --> 00:44:24,895
Speaker 8: You know, the timber will probably still be quite damp

789
00:44:24,935 --> 00:44:27,775
Speaker 8: from the treatment, depending on how long it's been sitting

790
00:44:27,815 --> 00:44:28,295
Speaker 8: in the yard.

791
00:44:28,695 --> 00:44:28,895
Speaker 4: Yeah.

792
00:44:28,935 --> 00:44:32,335
Speaker 8: Sure, so it just gives a chance for everything to

793
00:44:32,375 --> 00:44:33,095
Speaker 8: settle back a bit.

794
00:44:33,335 --> 00:44:37,935
Speaker 4: All right, brilliant. Now, Actually another text question about deck.

795
00:44:38,015 --> 00:44:40,135
Speaker 4: The deck looks very shabby. They say the paint is

796
00:44:40,175 --> 00:44:42,615
Speaker 4: peeling off. It was painted brown when we bought the house,

797
00:44:42,655 --> 00:44:45,455
Speaker 4: and we painted it gray after it's sanding down. Within

798
00:44:45,575 --> 00:44:49,415
Speaker 4: weeks the gray paint was sticky and lifting, and they

799
00:44:49,495 --> 00:44:52,815
Speaker 4: were refunded with the paint. It's now very bad. What

800
00:44:53,055 --> 00:44:53,895
Speaker 4: should they do?

801
00:44:55,415 --> 00:45:02,975
Speaker 8: M hmm, that's a good question. I would probably consider

802
00:45:03,095 --> 00:45:05,255
Speaker 8: removing the paint back to be a timber and stay

803
00:45:05,575 --> 00:45:08,135
Speaker 8: over again. You know, you might have to get a.

804
00:45:08,935 --> 00:45:14,295
Speaker 4: Like a floor sander and just wow, Okay, yep.

805
00:45:14,815 --> 00:45:17,575
Speaker 8: Yeah, and take it back to be it and startle

806
00:45:17,615 --> 00:45:21,975
Speaker 8: over again. There's obviously something strange going on, so remove

807
00:45:22,015 --> 00:45:24,135
Speaker 8: the coatings and start over again.

808
00:45:24,335 --> 00:45:27,375
Speaker 4: Okay, now here's an interesting one too. We had a

809
00:45:27,455 --> 00:45:29,575
Speaker 4: patch we had to do a small patch up of

810
00:45:29,655 --> 00:45:32,335
Speaker 4: a wee area of paint work with some old paint.

811
00:45:33,095 --> 00:45:36,695
Speaker 4: Now the area smells awful. The paint was off. How

812
00:45:36,775 --> 00:45:39,615
Speaker 4: do we get rid of the smell without repainting again?

813
00:45:40,055 --> 00:45:44,855
Speaker 4: Before we launch into that is the really good tip

814
00:45:45,095 --> 00:45:47,255
Speaker 4: is if you've got some old paint, you lift the

815
00:45:47,295 --> 00:45:51,855
Speaker 4: lid and it smells like rotten eggs, it's gone off, right, Yeah.

816
00:45:51,775 --> 00:45:54,335
Speaker 8: It does that occasionally. I mean, it doesn't last forever,

817
00:45:54,415 --> 00:46:00,895
Speaker 8: and it can't unless it's stored properly. And I don't

818
00:46:00,975 --> 00:46:02,895
Speaker 8: know what they can do to get rid of the

819
00:46:02,975 --> 00:46:07,815
Speaker 8: smell unless they just wash the walls down with interior

820
00:46:07,895 --> 00:46:13,095
Speaker 8: paint clean things like that, yep, and then consider undercoating

821
00:46:13,255 --> 00:46:16,135
Speaker 8: and just recoating with fresh paint that may seal the

822
00:46:16,215 --> 00:46:19,935
Speaker 8: smell in. Yes, I'm not exactly sure what else they

823
00:46:19,975 --> 00:46:20,655
Speaker 8: can do about that.

824
00:46:22,015 --> 00:46:24,855
Speaker 4: But again, if you if you've got old paint, don't

825
00:46:24,975 --> 00:46:27,895
Speaker 4: use it. And of course if it's you know, if

826
00:46:27,935 --> 00:46:31,575
Speaker 4: it's old paint, you can don't just dump it either,

827
00:46:32,575 --> 00:46:34,895
Speaker 4: because I know obviously if it's razine paint, you can

828
00:46:34,975 --> 00:46:38,495
Speaker 4: take it back and it'll go into the recycling program.

829
00:46:39,295 --> 00:46:42,735
Speaker 4: And there's a if it's not razine paint, there's just

830
00:46:42,775 --> 00:46:45,255
Speaker 4: a small charges in there at the color shops.

831
00:46:46,095 --> 00:46:50,935
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, you so, and then it doesn't get into landfill. Absolutely,

832
00:46:51,895 --> 00:46:53,935
Speaker 8: the containers are recent like that.

833
00:46:54,375 --> 00:46:58,535
Speaker 4: Yeah, brilliant, brilliant. Now where else? What else have we

834
00:46:58,615 --> 00:47:03,135
Speaker 4: got here hand? Let's see, I'll grab my next text. Ah, Pete,

835
00:47:03,215 --> 00:47:07,295
Speaker 4: can you recover an old pine deck and after it's

836
00:47:07,335 --> 00:47:09,855
Speaker 4: got a bit of moss and mold? I was thinking

837
00:47:10,095 --> 00:47:13,855
Speaker 4: water blasting and going from there, says Rich. So can

838
00:47:13,975 --> 00:47:16,775
Speaker 4: I jump in straight away and go? Please don't attack

839
00:47:16,855 --> 00:47:20,495
Speaker 4: it at two thousand PSI. There's better ways of prepping it,

840
00:47:20,575 --> 00:47:20,895
Speaker 4: isn't there.

841
00:47:21,855 --> 00:47:25,375
Speaker 8: Yeah, if there's moss and mold on it, I would

842
00:47:25,415 --> 00:47:28,975
Speaker 8: spray a good, a good dosing of moss and mold

843
00:47:29,055 --> 00:47:31,135
Speaker 8: killer all over the deck and leave that for twenty

844
00:47:31,175 --> 00:47:33,895
Speaker 8: four hours and then get in there with your timber

845
00:47:33,935 --> 00:47:37,735
Speaker 8: and deck wash and scrub the deck and gently rinse

846
00:47:38,095 --> 00:47:40,855
Speaker 8: the material off once you're done, and that should bring

847
00:47:40,935 --> 00:47:45,775
Speaker 8: it back to a state where it's able to accept

848
00:47:45,775 --> 00:47:47,375
Speaker 8: whatever casing that you're going to put on it.

849
00:47:48,135 --> 00:47:51,855
Speaker 4: Yeah, brilliant. Now a white packet fence that hasn't been

850
00:47:51,935 --> 00:47:55,815
Speaker 4: painted in twenty years, rust stains are starting to show

851
00:47:55,935 --> 00:47:58,055
Speaker 4: through the paint where the nails are. How do I

852
00:47:58,255 --> 00:48:01,055
Speaker 4: repaint the fences? Is from ken So can we deal

853
00:48:01,175 --> 00:48:05,055
Speaker 4: with you know, what's a not uncommon problem painted surface

854
00:48:05,215 --> 00:48:07,855
Speaker 4: where the boards pack it, et cetera. Some of the

855
00:48:07,975 --> 00:48:09,935
Speaker 4: nails might be starting to rust and you see that

856
00:48:10,095 --> 00:48:13,015
Speaker 4: little rust mark, that little red stain coming through the

857
00:48:13,135 --> 00:48:14,895
Speaker 4: paint work. What's the trick there?

858
00:48:16,975 --> 00:48:19,095
Speaker 8: You'd probably have to sand area back a little bit

859
00:48:20,295 --> 00:48:22,975
Speaker 8: just to try and remove the surface staining. There are

860
00:48:23,295 --> 00:48:26,335
Speaker 8: products out there that do nullify rust stains.

861
00:48:28,055 --> 00:48:28,455
Speaker 7: We use.

862
00:48:29,175 --> 00:48:33,215
Speaker 8: I think there's a substance out there called oxalic acid,

863
00:48:33,895 --> 00:48:39,095
Speaker 8: right that does neutralize rust staining. Failing that, I would

864
00:48:39,335 --> 00:48:44,615
Speaker 8: consider using sand area back. Spot the area with GP primer,

865
00:48:44,775 --> 00:48:49,175
Speaker 8: allow that to dry, yep undercoat, and then just proceed

866
00:48:49,255 --> 00:48:51,295
Speaker 8: with a top coat to touch out the area, or

867
00:48:51,455 --> 00:48:54,455
Speaker 8: just you know, maybe just paint the entire weatherboard just

868
00:48:54,535 --> 00:48:55,575
Speaker 8: to match it in nicely.

869
00:48:56,295 --> 00:49:00,255
Speaker 4: And the GP primer will be an enamel, so oil

870
00:49:00,335 --> 00:49:04,495
Speaker 4: based and so quick dry primer over the top of

871
00:49:04,535 --> 00:49:06,135
Speaker 4: that before you do an acrylic top coat.

872
00:49:06,935 --> 00:49:09,535
Speaker 8: Yep, yeah, yeah, and just do just to block out

873
00:49:09,575 --> 00:49:11,295
Speaker 8: you know it is it is a gray color, so

874
00:49:11,535 --> 00:49:13,935
Speaker 8: if you put a light color over the top, you know,

875
00:49:14,095 --> 00:49:17,055
Speaker 8: you may have some shadowing coming through from the GP.

876
00:49:17,255 --> 00:49:19,855
Speaker 8: So the quick drive just you know, it helps you

877
00:49:19,895 --> 00:49:20,335
Speaker 8: get rid of.

878
00:49:20,375 --> 00:49:24,735
Speaker 4: That right out. Now here we go. I've got an

879
00:49:24,855 --> 00:49:28,615
Speaker 4: area of my beautiful covered deck that has lost color

880
00:49:28,855 --> 00:49:30,935
Speaker 4: due to it being in the entrance way. Other than that,

881
00:49:31,135 --> 00:49:34,815
Speaker 4: it's in good condition. Is there a paint that I

882
00:49:34,895 --> 00:49:37,495
Speaker 4: could apply over the top and get a little bit

883
00:49:37,535 --> 00:49:46,615
Speaker 4: more life out of it? Basically, I mean something, Yeah,

884
00:49:46,655 --> 00:49:47,135
Speaker 4: I think so.

885
00:49:47,975 --> 00:49:52,495
Speaker 8: Mm hmm. It depends actually what's on there. I mean,

886
00:49:52,535 --> 00:49:56,495
Speaker 8: if it's an old oil based paving paint which was

887
00:49:56,695 --> 00:49:59,815
Speaker 8: you know, which was quite common, right, you may have

888
00:49:59,935 --> 00:50:02,775
Speaker 8: to give it a good clean down and a standing

889
00:50:03,415 --> 00:50:06,615
Speaker 8: and then undercoat with quick dry and perhaps for walk

890
00:50:06,655 --> 00:50:07,575
Speaker 8: on over the top of that.

891
00:50:08,895 --> 00:50:12,655
Speaker 4: Over the making. Yeah, because it is pole so they've

892
00:50:12,695 --> 00:50:18,135
Speaker 4: got the it's that compatibility issue, isn't it around ut ole?

893
00:50:18,215 --> 00:50:18,415
Speaker 7: Yeah?

894
00:50:18,495 --> 00:50:20,295
Speaker 4: No, it's a beautiful covered deck.

895
00:50:21,655 --> 00:50:25,215
Speaker 8: H there's the beauty and old coated, that's the it's the.

896
00:50:25,295 --> 00:50:28,335
Speaker 4: Problem seems to be it's lost color due to it

897
00:50:28,495 --> 00:50:31,775
Speaker 4: being the entrance way. So I wonder whether it was coated.

898
00:50:31,975 --> 00:50:35,415
Speaker 4: And now that coating has deteriorated over time, and so

899
00:50:35,535 --> 00:50:37,615
Speaker 4: they're looking to rejuvenate that coating.

900
00:50:39,495 --> 00:50:41,735
Speaker 8: It'll still need to clean down and to wash up.

901
00:50:42,175 --> 00:50:47,895
Speaker 8: But if there's any bed beautinole and yeah, and it

902
00:50:48,175 --> 00:50:50,975
Speaker 8: has to be beautile if it's the if it's the

903
00:50:51,055 --> 00:50:55,415
Speaker 8: other membrane, the GP something or other, I can't remember

904
00:50:55,495 --> 00:51:01,855
Speaker 8: the exact sure name of it, beautiful spot prime. It

905
00:51:02,095 --> 00:51:07,495
Speaker 8: was membrane roofing primer, which is you know which will okay, yep,

906
00:51:09,215 --> 00:51:11,895
Speaker 8: but you have to put a good solid, thick coat

907
00:51:12,335 --> 00:51:16,335
Speaker 8: just to make sure that's any If it's there's beer areas,

908
00:51:16,375 --> 00:51:18,615
Speaker 8: if it's peeling and stuff like that, then you know,

909
00:51:18,815 --> 00:51:20,415
Speaker 8: you may have to do a bit more work just

910
00:51:20,495 --> 00:51:23,015
Speaker 8: to get rid of any sort of the loose plating

911
00:51:23,055 --> 00:51:26,815
Speaker 8: material stuff like that. So the membrane roofing timer and

912
00:51:26,935 --> 00:51:29,655
Speaker 8: then maybe walk on or something like that over the

913
00:51:29,695 --> 00:51:30,055
Speaker 8: top of that.

914
00:51:30,295 --> 00:51:34,135
Speaker 4: Okay, brilliant. Now here's the classic. This is you know, moving,

915
00:51:34,455 --> 00:51:37,615
Speaker 4: you know, with gears being stored over the winter. Hey

916
00:51:37,775 --> 00:51:41,135
Speaker 4: just interested says this text to Ross. When painting the

917
00:51:41,215 --> 00:51:44,095
Speaker 4: house inside out, what's the best way to either store

918
00:51:44,175 --> 00:51:47,095
Speaker 4: the used brushes or rollers if the job's not finished,

919
00:51:47,215 --> 00:51:51,095
Speaker 4: or alternatively completely clean up when finished in a way

920
00:51:51,175 --> 00:51:55,175
Speaker 4: that minimizes the mess. So I guess the question is

921
00:51:55,695 --> 00:51:56,895
Speaker 4: again the job that I did?

922
00:51:57,015 --> 00:51:57,175
Speaker 5: Right?

923
00:51:57,575 --> 00:52:00,095
Speaker 4: So I did a coat one day, and I needed

924
00:52:00,135 --> 00:52:01,775
Speaker 4: to do a coat the next day. I've got a

925
00:52:01,815 --> 00:52:06,255
Speaker 4: little foamy roller, I've got my brushes. I've seen different

926
00:52:06,575 --> 00:52:09,855
Speaker 4: approaches from professionals that I work with. Some guys won't

927
00:52:09,975 --> 00:52:12,935
Speaker 4: bother like cleaning the brush out completely. They'll wrap it

928
00:52:13,935 --> 00:52:15,775
Speaker 4: in some glad rap, or they'll leave it in the

929
00:52:15,855 --> 00:52:18,455
Speaker 4: bucket or whatever. What you know, if you're doing a

930
00:52:18,535 --> 00:52:21,015
Speaker 4: job that's over a couple of days, typically, what would

931
00:52:21,055 --> 00:52:23,295
Speaker 4: you do in terms of looking after brushes and rollers?

932
00:52:24,895 --> 00:52:27,215
Speaker 8: The rollers? You know? You can you can wrap them

933
00:52:27,255 --> 00:52:29,575
Speaker 8: in plastic or put them in an old you know,

934
00:52:29,615 --> 00:52:31,935
Speaker 8: in plastic bag or something like that, right, and make

935
00:52:32,015 --> 00:52:35,095
Speaker 8: sure that it's air tighty force all the ear out

936
00:52:35,135 --> 00:52:38,855
Speaker 8: of it. Yep. I stumbled across one when I was

937
00:52:39,735 --> 00:52:41,615
Speaker 8: using some rollers a couple of years ago, and I

938
00:52:41,775 --> 00:52:45,455
Speaker 8: wrapped them in a whit teatail. You know, a really

939
00:52:45,535 --> 00:52:51,895
Speaker 8: old teatail. Obviously I'd get into trouble otherwise, Yes, but

940
00:52:52,015 --> 00:52:54,975
Speaker 8: I wrapped them in an old wit old tea tail

941
00:52:55,015 --> 00:52:57,655
Speaker 8: and just rolled it up listed in the roller tray

942
00:52:57,655 --> 00:52:59,935
Speaker 8: and put the roller tray away in the ship. In

943
00:52:59,975 --> 00:53:03,455
Speaker 8: the next morning, they got up and then wound the

944
00:53:03,535 --> 00:53:07,215
Speaker 8: tea tail and I'm still damp the next day. The

945
00:53:07,335 --> 00:53:09,615
Speaker 8: brushes and things like that. Yes, you can wrap them

946
00:53:09,655 --> 00:53:13,415
Speaker 8: in plastic if you want, but don't leave them for

947
00:53:13,535 --> 00:53:18,855
Speaker 8: too long, right if you're you know, maybe one one

948
00:53:18,975 --> 00:53:21,255
Speaker 8: or two days, and then you know, you really should

949
00:53:21,335 --> 00:53:23,335
Speaker 8: consider cleaning them out because you'll get built up of

950
00:53:23,415 --> 00:53:28,015
Speaker 8: paint inside the filaments on the brush. Yeah, So either

951
00:53:28,095 --> 00:53:30,655
Speaker 8: that or just soak them in water. But don't soak

952
00:53:30,695 --> 00:53:32,735
Speaker 8: them in water and leave the brush getting the bottom

953
00:53:32,735 --> 00:53:35,455
Speaker 8: of the chin. You know, maybe run a piece of

954
00:53:35,615 --> 00:53:38,255
Speaker 8: number eight a hole in the handle, or drill a

955
00:53:38,295 --> 00:53:40,975
Speaker 8: hole in the handle and suspend it in water so

956
00:53:41,055 --> 00:53:42,615
Speaker 8: it's not touching the bottom of the tin.

957
00:53:43,335 --> 00:53:45,455
Speaker 4: Yeah, because otherwise you end up pulling the brush out

958
00:53:45,495 --> 00:53:48,215
Speaker 4: and the bristles have all curved at the bottom and

959
00:53:48,655 --> 00:53:50,615
Speaker 4: they kind of just ruins them, doesn't it.

960
00:53:51,495 --> 00:53:53,495
Speaker 8: It's any good for painting around corners.

961
00:53:56,175 --> 00:53:56,895
Speaker 4: Look and cranny.

962
00:53:57,015 --> 00:53:57,215
Speaker 1: Yeah.

963
00:53:57,255 --> 00:54:02,015
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and also you know, let's remind people that if

964
00:54:02,095 --> 00:54:06,495
Speaker 4: you are washing up brushes, don't then wash out to

965
00:54:07,335 --> 00:54:10,135
Speaker 4: storm water and those sorts of things. You know, it's

966
00:54:10,935 --> 00:54:12,655
Speaker 4: I suppose if you're doing quite a bit of work,

967
00:54:12,855 --> 00:54:15,015
Speaker 4: then you can actually sort of set yourself up a

968
00:54:15,055 --> 00:54:18,815
Speaker 4: little station with some floculent and those sorts of things,

969
00:54:18,895 --> 00:54:21,175
Speaker 4: so you keep cleaning into one area and then you

970
00:54:21,255 --> 00:54:24,775
Speaker 4: can dispose of that. But you know, like watching people

971
00:54:25,495 --> 00:54:27,735
Speaker 4: hose their brushes off into a gully trap and those

972
00:54:27,775 --> 00:54:29,535
Speaker 4: sorts of things, that's that's not ideal.

973
00:54:31,215 --> 00:54:35,415
Speaker 8: It's absolutely if you set up like you say, station,

974
00:54:35,935 --> 00:54:39,335
Speaker 8: even a bucket with some water and then let it settle,

975
00:54:39,655 --> 00:54:41,775
Speaker 8: it will settle over time and then you can use

976
00:54:41,895 --> 00:54:45,455
Speaker 8: that water, you know, just pour it onto the garden. Yeah,

977
00:54:46,975 --> 00:54:49,815
Speaker 8: and then the material that's left in the bottom of

978
00:54:49,855 --> 00:54:52,215
Speaker 8: the bucket, you know, spread it out on a piece

979
00:54:52,255 --> 00:54:55,015
Speaker 8: of cardboard or something like that, allow it to dry,

980
00:54:55,575 --> 00:54:57,255
Speaker 8: and then roll it up in a piece of newspaper

981
00:54:57,295 --> 00:54:59,135
Speaker 8: and then you can put that in the rubbish. Yeah.

982
00:54:59,215 --> 00:55:04,575
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Hey, as always awesome tips and advice. Really appreciate it.

983
00:55:04,735 --> 00:55:07,175
Speaker 4: And you know, if people are looking for because there

984
00:55:07,255 --> 00:55:09,975
Speaker 4: is now such a range of specialist coatings like you

985
00:55:10,055 --> 00:55:13,655
Speaker 4: mentioned the membrane primer. That's one that's new to me,

986
00:55:13,775 --> 00:55:17,015
Speaker 4: for example, the GP primer, those sorts of things. So

987
00:55:17,375 --> 00:55:19,455
Speaker 4: make sure people come into the store get the advice

988
00:55:19,495 --> 00:55:22,255
Speaker 4: from the experts there. Bryce Thank you very much, sir,

989
00:55:23,215 --> 00:55:25,975
Speaker 4: great much appreciated, all the very best. You take care

990
00:55:26,255 --> 00:55:29,015
Speaker 4: so for good advice and great product of course, guards

991
00:55:29,015 --> 00:55:31,935
Speaker 4: a year or the experts at the Razine color shops. Right,

992
00:55:31,975 --> 00:55:33,775
Speaker 4: we'll take your calls. Then we're going to have a

993
00:55:33,855 --> 00:55:37,015
Speaker 4: quick chat with Mike from Razine Construction as well, so

994
00:55:37,095 --> 00:55:40,695
Speaker 4: from rock Coat talking about Integra before the break as well.

995
00:55:40,735 --> 00:55:42,255
Speaker 4: But right now we can take a quick call. Oh

996
00:55:42,335 --> 00:55:44,415
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call

997
00:55:45,055 --> 00:55:45,535
Speaker 4: helping you.

998
00:55:45,735 --> 00:55:49,535
Speaker 1: Get those DIY projects done right the resident builder with

999
00:55:49,815 --> 00:55:53,735
Speaker 1: Vita Wolfcats call, oh eight hundred eighty eight US TALKSB.

1000
00:55:53,855 --> 00:55:55,815
Speaker 4: You and News Talks B. We're talking to Mike Olds

1001
00:55:55,855 --> 00:55:57,855
Speaker 4: and just a moment. But before then, Lynn, good morning

1002
00:55:57,935 --> 00:55:58,095
Speaker 4: to you.

1003
00:55:59,455 --> 00:56:02,535
Speaker 11: Good morning. Hi there, I've got a slight problem.

1004
00:56:03,295 --> 00:56:03,335
Speaker 5: Go.

1005
00:56:03,855 --> 00:56:06,895
Speaker 11: We have a house that's going on on the market

1006
00:56:07,015 --> 00:56:09,855
Speaker 11: or gone on the market. We've got a building report

1007
00:56:10,055 --> 00:56:13,415
Speaker 11: because the house is the infel clad.

1008
00:56:13,495 --> 00:56:14,775
Speaker 7: You know that.

1009
00:56:16,055 --> 00:56:18,935
Speaker 11: Anyway, cut a long story short. We've got a building

1010
00:56:19,015 --> 00:56:23,455
Speaker 11: inspector and he said, there's problem in the bedroom behind

1011
00:56:23,535 --> 00:56:27,535
Speaker 11: the garage. So we fixed that what happened to be

1012
00:56:27,815 --> 00:56:32,615
Speaker 11: a leak outside and we read did the faceboard which

1013
00:56:32,855 --> 00:56:37,455
Speaker 11: was only a couple of inches, and then he came

1014
00:56:37,575 --> 00:56:42,135
Speaker 11: back and said, no, well I found another problem. I'm

1015
00:56:42,215 --> 00:56:49,015
Speaker 11: not passing it because the garage which is directly behind

1016
00:56:49,095 --> 00:56:53,255
Speaker 11: the bedroom down five death and they when they laid

1017
00:56:53,375 --> 00:57:01,655
Speaker 11: the concrete, this scoria underneath is wet. And now he's saying,

1018
00:57:01,695 --> 00:57:03,855
Speaker 11: we've got to pull the wall off, dry it out

1019
00:57:03,975 --> 00:57:05,815
Speaker 11: and put some stuff up against it.

1020
00:57:07,975 --> 00:57:11,415
Speaker 4: The person who's doing the inspections for you is this

1021
00:57:11,815 --> 00:57:16,015
Speaker 4: This is a pre purchase inspection, so an independent inspector,

1022
00:57:16,455 --> 00:57:18,215
Speaker 4: not a council inspector, I take it.

1023
00:57:19,375 --> 00:57:26,895
Speaker 11: Not a council inspector. We used his local YEP up

1024
00:57:26,935 --> 00:57:31,215
Speaker 11: on the High Biscus Coast and we're just said out,

1025
00:57:31,295 --> 00:57:31,895
Speaker 11: what's the end.

1026
00:57:34,855 --> 00:57:37,415
Speaker 4: I can certain well, I can certainly understand the frustration

1027
00:57:37,535 --> 00:57:40,935
Speaker 4: about you know, they've they've come out, they've done an

1028
00:57:40,975 --> 00:57:45,935
Speaker 4: assessment on your behalf. I presume yes, and then you've

1029
00:57:46,015 --> 00:57:48,695
Speaker 4: done some remediation then they've come back to check that,

1030
00:57:48,855 --> 00:57:52,575
Speaker 4: which is interesting, and then found another problem and you,

1031
00:57:52,855 --> 00:57:55,535
Speaker 4: you know, rightly, so you're asking yourself, well, how come

1032
00:57:55,615 --> 00:57:57,455
Speaker 4: you didn't find that problem at the same time you

1033
00:57:57,495 --> 00:57:58,215
Speaker 4: found the other one?

1034
00:57:59,335 --> 00:58:04,495
Speaker 11: Yes, dead right, And it's just so frustrating. Just at

1035
00:58:04,535 --> 00:58:09,895
Speaker 11: the end of my tetther Yeah, no, I.

1036
00:58:09,935 --> 00:58:13,135
Speaker 4: Can understand the frustration. I suppose there's kind of two choices.

1037
00:58:13,175 --> 00:58:16,015
Speaker 4: One is you could just present the house to market

1038
00:58:16,175 --> 00:58:19,455
Speaker 4: as it is, and you would have to disclose that,

1039
00:58:19,655 --> 00:58:22,735
Speaker 4: and then someone else who's purchasing the house knows that

1040
00:58:22,815 --> 00:58:26,935
Speaker 4: they've got some remedial work to do, or despite the frustration,

1041
00:58:27,295 --> 00:58:30,335
Speaker 4: you get on and have the remedial work done. I'm

1042
00:58:30,335 --> 00:58:33,135
Speaker 4: a little bit curious about how he's identified that the

1043
00:58:33,295 --> 00:58:38,415
Speaker 4: scoria underneath the foundation is damp, because how did he

1044
00:58:38,455 --> 00:58:38,975
Speaker 4: get in there?

1045
00:58:40,375 --> 00:58:40,575
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1046
00:58:40,815 --> 00:58:44,055
Speaker 11: How did he get in there? The only reasoning I

1047
00:58:44,135 --> 00:58:47,895
Speaker 11: could think of was where we found the skirting board. Yes,

1048
00:58:48,175 --> 00:58:52,135
Speaker 11: which is by the bedroom window down the side path

1049
00:58:53,175 --> 00:58:58,655
Speaker 11: may rain, but it must have been leaking for years

1050
00:58:59,055 --> 00:59:03,255
Speaker 11: to be completely wet, and.

1051
00:59:03,335 --> 00:59:06,455
Speaker 4: That's quite possible. I think in the end, I can

1052
00:59:06,575 --> 00:59:09,215
Speaker 4: understand the frustration. Then I really do that. You know,

1053
00:59:09,975 --> 00:59:12,135
Speaker 4: if you've got a building report and then they come

1054
00:59:12,215 --> 00:59:14,015
Speaker 4: back and find something else. Then you kind of wonder,

1055
00:59:14,175 --> 00:59:15,735
Speaker 4: why didn't you see that in the first place. And

1056
00:59:15,775 --> 00:59:18,255
Speaker 4: then the next question is do you repair it or

1057
00:59:18,335 --> 00:59:20,535
Speaker 4: do you simply present it to the market as it is?

1058
00:59:21,175 --> 00:59:24,415
Speaker 4: And you know someone will probably still make you an offer,

1059
00:59:24,495 --> 00:59:26,615
Speaker 4: but it might not be what you were hoping for

1060
00:59:26,775 --> 00:59:28,895
Speaker 4: in the first place. And then it's just a judgment

1061
00:59:29,015 --> 00:59:31,255
Speaker 4: call on your part as to how much effort you

1062
00:59:31,295 --> 00:59:34,055
Speaker 4: want to put into it. Good luck with that. It

1063
00:59:34,215 --> 00:59:36,375
Speaker 4: is seven forty five, my colts.

1064
00:59:36,415 --> 00:59:40,655
Speaker 1: In just a moment, God was but maybe called Pete

1065
00:59:40,695 --> 00:59:43,695
Speaker 1: first feed you allcat the resident builder news talk.

1066
00:59:43,735 --> 00:59:47,655
Speaker 4: Sa'd be righty oh, expert in all things construction. Mike

1067
00:59:47,775 --> 00:59:50,735
Speaker 4: Olds from Razine Construction, Greetings, good morning.

1068
00:59:51,055 --> 00:59:51,815
Speaker 5: Good morning, Pete.

1069
00:59:51,815 --> 00:59:53,295
Speaker 4: How are we really start for you? You would have

1070
00:59:53,335 --> 00:59:55,375
Speaker 4: been up for the all blacks had a we.

1071
00:59:55,455 --> 01:00:00,535
Speaker 5: Sneaky peak of hat didn't it didn't do the four anyways.

1072
01:00:00,655 --> 01:00:03,655
Speaker 4: Now when we're talking Razine construction, we're often talking about

1073
01:00:03,735 --> 01:00:06,815
Speaker 4: venders and so on, but maybe not all that much

1074
01:00:06,935 --> 01:00:10,335
Speaker 4: focus on the substrate, which is a really important part

1075
01:00:10,375 --> 01:00:14,495
Speaker 4: of the overall system. And you can do lightweight concrete,

1076
01:00:14,535 --> 01:00:19,775
Speaker 4: which is the integra, So what uses for integra.

1077
01:00:21,535 --> 01:00:25,055
Speaker 5: Integral it has to be the most popular external plast

1078
01:00:25,135 --> 01:00:32,415
Speaker 5: facade clanning, so still still installed over a cavity, over

1079
01:00:32,455 --> 01:00:37,095
Speaker 5: timber frame or steel frame structures. The lightweight concrete so

1080
01:00:37,335 --> 01:00:39,815
Speaker 5: we term up lightweight. It's about a further weight of

1081
01:00:39,895 --> 01:00:43,815
Speaker 5: traditional concrete as people would know concrete. So it's basically

1082
01:00:43,895 --> 01:00:50,175
Speaker 5: aerated concrete that has a steel wire reinforcing through the panel. Now,

1083
01:00:50,455 --> 01:00:54,855
Speaker 5: these panels are noncombustible as well, so they don't they

1084
01:00:54,895 --> 01:01:00,215
Speaker 5: can't burn basically, and we've tested that with some pretty

1085
01:01:00,295 --> 01:01:03,935
Speaker 5: intensive testing that I'll talk about shortly intensal. Some of

1086
01:01:03,975 --> 01:01:07,855
Speaker 5: the other areas of the product be utilized in but

1087
01:01:08,015 --> 01:01:13,655
Speaker 5: ultimately it's a lightweight, high density concrete that has screw

1088
01:01:13,775 --> 01:01:17,855
Speaker 5: fixed to the structure. We don't fix just into a battern.

1089
01:01:18,055 --> 01:01:20,295
Speaker 5: We fix right back through the structure due to its

1090
01:01:20,335 --> 01:01:24,215
Speaker 5: weight YEP and then the flashing systems and everything are installed.

1091
01:01:25,255 --> 01:01:28,215
Speaker 5: The RNDOUS systems are then all applied and you have

1092
01:01:29,175 --> 01:01:31,455
Speaker 5: a very good acoustic rating on this product. So if

1093
01:01:31,495 --> 01:01:35,535
Speaker 5: you live in a road a busy road side area,

1094
01:01:36,335 --> 01:01:38,815
Speaker 5: really really good for the acoustic performance to knock down

1095
01:01:38,895 --> 01:01:44,455
Speaker 5: that roadside noise and also the impact resistance. So if

1096
01:01:44,495 --> 01:01:46,655
Speaker 5: you're planning on having a bit of backyard cricket and

1097
01:01:47,455 --> 01:01:49,775
Speaker 5: setting setting the pins up in front of the wall,

1098
01:01:50,775 --> 01:01:52,735
Speaker 5: then yeah, I did a little deal with most knocks

1099
01:01:52,775 --> 01:01:55,695
Speaker 5: and knocks and blows and residential and light commercial spaces

1100
01:01:56,895 --> 01:02:00,055
Speaker 5: the other key areas that we've had it and utilize it.

1101
01:02:00,175 --> 01:02:03,695
Speaker 5: And we do also do with the rise in medium

1102
01:02:03,815 --> 01:02:07,455
Speaker 5: density construction in the country with trying to get more

1103
01:02:07,455 --> 01:02:12,495
Speaker 5: people to live in city spaces or urban environments. Is

1104
01:02:12,775 --> 01:02:16,295
Speaker 5: our intertendency walling system, So exactly the same product, the

1105
01:02:16,415 --> 01:02:22,215
Speaker 5: fifty mili Integra board is fitted and utilized between tenancies

1106
01:02:22,895 --> 01:02:26,895
Speaker 5: and we tested this product and Brands and their big

1107
01:02:26,975 --> 01:02:31,895
Speaker 5: fire lab and so basically you have one framing on

1108
01:02:31,975 --> 01:02:34,975
Speaker 5: one side that supports the floor and the roofs and

1109
01:02:35,175 --> 01:02:37,295
Speaker 5: everything like that, and then you have this structure on

1110
01:02:37,295 --> 01:02:38,695
Speaker 5: the other side of the in the tenancy wall. So

1111
01:02:38,735 --> 01:02:42,375
Speaker 5: they build one wall with tinder framing still framing. Then

1112
01:02:42,495 --> 01:02:45,935
Speaker 5: we fit the brackets to the framing, fit the Integra

1113
01:02:46,055 --> 01:02:48,735
Speaker 5: panel to those brackets, and then the next lot of

1114
01:02:48,775 --> 01:02:52,055
Speaker 5: framing has stood on the other side. And when you

1115
01:02:52,215 --> 01:02:55,735
Speaker 5: test these, we actually put the Integra panel directly into

1116
01:02:55,775 --> 01:02:59,495
Speaker 5: the furnace on a framed wall. Normally you'd have obviously

1117
01:02:59,495 --> 01:03:01,495
Speaker 5: the other side of the framed wall into the furnace.

1118
01:03:02,455 --> 01:03:05,735
Speaker 5: They crank this furnace up to a thousand degrees C

1119
01:03:06,535 --> 01:03:10,255
Speaker 5: and we ran that for over two hours, and the

1120
01:03:10,495 --> 01:03:13,295
Speaker 5: average temperature on the non fire side, or the non

1121
01:03:13,415 --> 01:03:16,855
Speaker 5: furnace side, it was about sixty five degrees C. I mean,

1122
01:03:16,855 --> 01:03:18,455
Speaker 5: if you put your hand on it, you would know

1123
01:03:18,535 --> 01:03:21,015
Speaker 5: there's a fire outside of the flashing lights and sirens

1124
01:03:21,015 --> 01:03:23,615
Speaker 5: and everything going on in a normal residential use. But

1125
01:03:24,295 --> 01:03:26,495
Speaker 5: sixty five degrees and you've got a thousand degrees on

1126
01:03:26,575 --> 01:03:30,695
Speaker 5: the other side. So that became the basis of our

1127
01:03:30,775 --> 01:03:34,895
Speaker 5: fire rateed walling system for the tendency walls. And outside

1128
01:03:34,935 --> 01:03:37,415
Speaker 5: of that is the acoustics, and we tested the acoustic

1129
01:03:37,495 --> 01:03:42,335
Speaker 5: performance because noise, if you've got noisy neighbors, this walling

1130
01:03:42,375 --> 01:03:46,095
Speaker 5: system will deal with the most common noise. And there's

1131
01:03:46,095 --> 01:03:49,375
Speaker 5: a rating in the building code which is a sound

1132
01:03:49,455 --> 01:03:53,175
Speaker 5: transmission class, and I think it's pretty one of the

1133
01:03:53,215 --> 01:03:57,655
Speaker 5: more important ones. I mean, fires, life and safety, acoustics

1134
01:03:58,495 --> 01:04:00,815
Speaker 5: is the most common thing that would annoy people on

1135
01:04:00,895 --> 01:04:05,935
Speaker 5: the daily. So the STC fifty five or sound transmisson

1136
01:04:05,935 --> 01:04:10,935
Speaker 5: class five. Our standard system with using the Integra panel

1137
01:04:11,455 --> 01:04:15,455
Speaker 5: is STC sixty four and that's the standard ten mil

1138
01:04:15,575 --> 01:04:19,535
Speaker 5: plaster board. So there's a lot of redundancy in the

1139
01:04:19,575 --> 01:04:23,255
Speaker 5: system so that the built environment nothing's perfect. We can

1140
01:04:23,375 --> 01:04:26,215
Speaker 5: build things to perfection and test labs, but when you

1141
01:04:26,295 --> 01:04:29,215
Speaker 5: build it on site there's bound to be something that's

1142
01:04:29,295 --> 01:04:32,255
Speaker 5: not one hundred percent. So we built in redundancy into

1143
01:04:32,295 --> 01:04:35,415
Speaker 5: the system. So as a standard specification, we give you

1144
01:04:35,495 --> 01:04:38,415
Speaker 5: two hour fire rating and you get really really good

1145
01:04:38,455 --> 01:04:42,855
Speaker 5: acoustic performance. The other thing that we can utilize what

1146
01:04:42,935 --> 01:04:46,535
Speaker 5: we do utilize the Integra product for is we have

1147
01:04:46,615 --> 01:04:50,375
Speaker 5: a seventy five milimeters thick version and we utilize that.

1148
01:04:50,455 --> 01:04:54,295
Speaker 5: We have utilized it as an external cladding and particularly

1149
01:04:54,295 --> 01:04:56,855
Speaker 5: in christ it's post quake where the bricks fell off

1150
01:04:56,895 --> 01:04:59,855
Speaker 5: the wall and post quake, but you had this one

1151
01:04:59,935 --> 01:05:02,215
Speaker 5: hundred and ten mil footing that supported the bricks and

1152
01:05:02,295 --> 01:05:05,535
Speaker 5: the big cavity, so we would actually we replace the

1153
01:05:05,815 --> 01:05:08,855
Speaker 5: bricks and we put on a forty mili cavity plus

1154
01:05:08,935 --> 01:05:11,855
Speaker 5: the seventy five mil Antigra panel as the cladding and

1155
01:05:12,175 --> 01:05:14,615
Speaker 5: that them. Then there's a change footing details and all

1156
01:05:14,655 --> 01:05:17,535
Speaker 5: that sort of stuff, so essentially reclad without without the brick,

1157
01:05:17,615 --> 01:05:20,375
Speaker 5: but cred all the same detailing and windows, et cetera.

1158
01:05:21,495 --> 01:05:23,775
Speaker 5: But the seventy five mil is also used as a

1159
01:05:23,855 --> 01:05:29,495
Speaker 5: flooring system, so as a mid floor or even off

1160
01:05:29,575 --> 01:05:31,575
Speaker 5: the ground. So if you're building on piles and you

1161
01:05:31,615 --> 01:05:34,455
Speaker 5: don't have you carried to a concrete slab for whatever reason,

1162
01:05:35,175 --> 01:05:37,335
Speaker 5: then you can fit the integral flooring straight to the

1163
01:05:37,455 --> 01:05:42,335
Speaker 5: joists then deoverlays of your carpets, yeah, screeds and things

1164
01:05:42,455 --> 01:05:46,175
Speaker 5: like that. So really really versatile product in the market space.

1165
01:05:47,055 --> 01:05:49,855
Speaker 4: The other thing, just before we wrap up, I suppose,

1166
01:05:49,975 --> 01:05:54,375
Speaker 4: you know, with the importation of overseas building products becoming

1167
01:05:54,455 --> 01:05:56,495
Speaker 4: more and more common, and we've already started to hear

1168
01:05:56,575 --> 01:05:59,735
Speaker 4: reports around you know, maybe some windows systems that are failing,

1169
01:06:00,135 --> 01:06:02,735
Speaker 4: it's going to be really important that people do a

1170
01:06:02,775 --> 01:06:06,015
Speaker 4: bit of research about, you know, essentially the integrity of

1171
01:06:06,095 --> 01:06:09,255
Speaker 4: the product that they're going to use. So again, going

1172
01:06:09,295 --> 01:06:12,535
Speaker 4: to something like the Integra, there's other AAC panels out there,

1173
01:06:12,935 --> 01:06:15,175
Speaker 4: you want to make sure that what you're getting is

1174
01:06:15,255 --> 01:06:15,975
Speaker 4: going to go the.

1175
01:06:16,055 --> 01:06:20,975
Speaker 5: Distance absolutely, and the company that's there supplying that into

1176
01:06:21,015 --> 01:06:23,335
Speaker 5: the market is going to be there for the long

1177
01:06:23,415 --> 01:06:26,455
Speaker 5: run and lasts longer than than the product in the

1178
01:06:26,495 --> 01:06:29,535
Speaker 5: marketplaces is always a goal. And we're please turn out

1179
01:06:29,615 --> 01:06:33,215
Speaker 5: say fortieth anniversary for our for the Razine Construction rock business.

1180
01:06:33,735 --> 01:06:38,095
Speaker 5: Uh and even Razine listening listening before we have I

1181
01:06:38,135 --> 01:06:44,255
Speaker 5: think it's our eightist and seventy six. Yeah, eightis so yeah,

1182
01:06:44,335 --> 01:06:47,775
Speaker 5: so pretty massive to be working with companies so that

1183
01:06:48,735 --> 01:06:50,855
Speaker 5: that is not wrapped up and they just leave the

1184
01:06:50,895 --> 01:06:51,535
Speaker 5: problems with you.

1185
01:06:51,895 --> 01:06:54,535
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's going to be really really important

1186
01:06:54,575 --> 01:06:58,855
Speaker 4: going forward. Mike is always fantastic to have you so

1187
01:06:59,055 --> 01:07:03,495
Speaker 4: Integra I N T E g R A. So if

1188
01:07:03,535 --> 01:07:06,655
Speaker 4: you just do a quick Razine Integra or it'll come up.

1189
01:07:07,095 --> 01:07:11,575
Speaker 4: Lots of details online, inspiration and really good technical advice

1190
01:07:11,695 --> 01:07:13,815
Speaker 4: to kind of wrap your head around and picture it.

1191
01:07:13,855 --> 01:07:16,375
Speaker 4: And I'm looking at a picture now the facade system,

1192
01:07:16,535 --> 01:07:20,655
Speaker 4: just showing that build up. Batten's product, base coat, Mesh's

1193
01:07:20,735 --> 01:07:24,015
Speaker 4: top coat, it's all part of the product. Awesome to

1194
01:07:24,055 --> 01:07:26,775
Speaker 4: talk with you as always, Mike Hold's from Razine Construction.

1195
01:07:27,495 --> 01:07:32,415
Speaker 4: Check it out online. Actually the Integra both for flaws, intertenancy,

1196
01:07:32,575 --> 01:07:35,495
Speaker 4: exterior cladding. We're back after the break after news at

1197
01:07:35,575 --> 01:07:36,415
Speaker 4: eight o'clock.

1198
01:07:40,415 --> 01:07:43,015
Speaker 1: Doing other house storting the garden past Pete for a

1199
01:07:43,095 --> 01:07:47,135
Speaker 1: hand the resident builder with Peter Wolfcap call eight hundred.

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01:07:47,175 --> 01:07:51,095
Speaker 4: Eighty eighty us right, yoh, we're back. Oh eight hundred

1201
01:07:51,175 --> 01:07:53,295
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? It is

1202
01:07:53,655 --> 01:07:56,535
Speaker 4: six minutes after eight. If you've got a building question,

1203
01:07:56,615 --> 01:07:57,295
Speaker 4: you should call us.

1204
01:07:57,335 --> 01:07:57,455
Speaker 1: Now.

1205
01:07:57,495 --> 01:08:00,015
Speaker 4: The lines are lighting up, which is awesome. We're talking

1206
01:08:00,135 --> 01:08:03,055
Speaker 4: building through till eight thirty. Then, of course a rootcline

1207
01:08:03,135 --> 01:08:06,935
Speaker 4: passed in the garden talking all things gardening and the

1208
01:08:07,015 --> 01:08:09,895
Speaker 4: wonderful world of bugs as well quick texts that came in.

1209
01:08:10,735 --> 01:08:14,375
Speaker 4: Excuse me just before the break, Hey, Pete. A roofing question. Generally,

1210
01:08:14,495 --> 01:08:16,975
Speaker 4: our roof is in good condition, but nearly all the

1211
01:08:17,055 --> 01:08:20,615
Speaker 4: screws holding the roof down are rusted, and I suspect

1212
01:08:20,655 --> 01:08:22,735
Speaker 4: the roof is leaking through some of these. Do we

1213
01:08:22,815 --> 01:08:25,455
Speaker 4: need to replace the roof or is there some less

1214
01:08:25,695 --> 01:08:33,375
Speaker 4: drastic solution that we could use? Yes, there is. The

1215
01:08:33,415 --> 01:08:36,175
Speaker 4: good thing is I'm a little bit surprised that it's

1216
01:08:36,255 --> 01:08:39,815
Speaker 4: the screws that are rusting, but there have been a

1217
01:08:39,895 --> 01:08:44,575
Speaker 4: couple of sort of failures with either a particular brand

1218
01:08:44,695 --> 01:08:47,575
Speaker 4: or a series of coating. So whether it's something that

1219
01:08:47,735 --> 01:08:52,335
Speaker 4: you can confidently do yourself, or you get a roof

1220
01:08:52,415 --> 01:08:54,975
Speaker 4: to come in and simply back the old screws out

1221
01:08:55,015 --> 01:08:59,135
Speaker 4: and replace them. And it's obviously a much easier job

1222
01:08:59,255 --> 01:09:01,535
Speaker 4: than let's say, if they were the old leadhead nails

1223
01:09:01,855 --> 01:09:06,135
Speaker 4: or the spiral fixed nails that we used to use

1224
01:09:06,695 --> 01:09:09,855
Speaker 4: I don't know, fifteen twenty years ago. So yeah, I

1225
01:09:10,055 --> 01:09:12,495
Speaker 4: just get all the screws taken out, replace them with

1226
01:09:12,855 --> 01:09:16,095
Speaker 4: new ones. And if when they take the screw out

1227
01:09:16,215 --> 01:09:19,095
Speaker 4: the whole has been sort of enlargened for some reason,

1228
01:09:19,575 --> 01:09:23,535
Speaker 4: then a small dob of silicon around there, some decent

1229
01:09:23,655 --> 01:09:28,215
Speaker 4: quality roofing silicon that's uve stabilized, will just seally near

1230
01:09:28,255 --> 01:09:31,135
Speaker 4: those penetrations, and that should give you a little bit

1231
01:09:31,215 --> 01:09:34,335
Speaker 4: more time. Perhaps it'll eke out the life of the

1232
01:09:35,615 --> 01:09:37,855
Speaker 4: of the roof. Hey pete. Can a building report be

1233
01:09:38,055 --> 01:09:43,095
Speaker 4: done by any LBP right now?

1234
01:09:43,415 --> 01:09:43,775
Speaker 7: Is best?

1235
01:09:43,855 --> 01:09:47,095
Speaker 4: I understand that there's actually there is a standard for

1236
01:09:47,295 --> 01:09:52,135
Speaker 4: pre purchase residential building inspections. There's a coat NZDSK DA

1237
01:09:52,215 --> 01:09:55,135
Speaker 4: DA DA DA DA, so there is an objective standard

1238
01:09:56,015 --> 01:09:58,455
Speaker 4: as to who can do them. I don't believe that

1239
01:09:58,535 --> 01:10:02,015
Speaker 4: there's any requirement to say that it has to be

1240
01:10:02,095 --> 01:10:07,255
Speaker 4: an LBP or anyone with a qualification. I'll let you

1241
01:10:07,375 --> 01:10:10,975
Speaker 4: draw your own conclusions about that, but obviously if you're

1242
01:10:11,055 --> 01:10:13,295
Speaker 4: going to fork out good money to have a pre

1243
01:10:13,415 --> 01:10:17,455
Speaker 4: purchase inspection, you should look at the qualifications of the

1244
01:10:17,575 --> 01:10:21,535
Speaker 4: person who's doing it and also whether they're you know,

1245
01:10:21,615 --> 01:10:24,495
Speaker 4: whether they carry insurance for offering that type of advice

1246
01:10:24,695 --> 01:10:27,975
Speaker 4: as well. Oh, eight hundred eighty eighty is the number

1247
01:10:28,015 --> 01:10:29,135
Speaker 4: to call. Robin.

1248
01:10:29,215 --> 01:10:33,095
Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Good morning Peak first up, Thank

1249
01:10:33,135 --> 01:10:36,135
Speaker 3: you very much for sharing all your knowledge works because

1250
01:10:36,135 --> 01:10:37,335
Speaker 3: I thoroughly enjoy it.

1251
01:10:37,775 --> 01:10:38,055
Speaker 7: Thank you.

1252
01:10:38,135 --> 01:10:41,495
Speaker 4: It's very kind of you to say crazy, Yeah, I behave.

1253
01:10:41,535 --> 01:10:45,015
Speaker 3: I'm I have two ironing boards.

1254
01:10:45,055 --> 01:10:45,335
Speaker 5: This is.

1255
01:10:47,415 --> 01:10:49,735
Speaker 3: What I'm a sy So one's in my sewing room,

1256
01:10:49,775 --> 01:10:52,935
Speaker 3: the other ones in the laundry. They have What I'm

1257
01:10:53,095 --> 01:10:57,455
Speaker 3: wondering is an as best sheet? Where the irons? How

1258
01:10:57,535 --> 01:10:59,695
Speaker 3: do I know? And how do I know whether it's

1259
01:10:59,735 --> 01:11:00,655
Speaker 3: asbestos or not?

1260
01:11:01,375 --> 01:11:06,255
Speaker 4: Testing? That's the simplest way. So because there's you know,

1261
01:11:06,495 --> 01:11:09,255
Speaker 4: a growing concern, or there's there's been concerned for a while,

1262
01:11:09,415 --> 01:11:13,095
Speaker 4: right so asbesiis, testing is quite common. It would take

1263
01:11:13,135 --> 01:11:15,695
Speaker 4: you a couple of minutes on a search engine to

1264
01:11:15,855 --> 01:11:19,775
Speaker 4: find a local laboratory that would do that. The simplest

1265
01:11:19,815 --> 01:11:21,775
Speaker 4: thing is, you know, maybe wear a mask while you're

1266
01:11:21,815 --> 01:11:24,735
Speaker 4: doing it, snip off a small piece of that double

1267
01:11:24,815 --> 01:11:27,855
Speaker 4: bag it. Either send it or take it into a laboratory,

1268
01:11:28,015 --> 01:11:31,375
Speaker 4: have them test it, and then get you know, proper

1269
01:11:31,495 --> 01:11:34,695
Speaker 4: independent scientific advice as to whether or not it's ACM

1270
01:11:34,895 --> 01:11:38,655
Speaker 4: or asbestos containing material. Let's say it.

1271
01:11:40,295 --> 01:11:40,335
Speaker 5: No.

1272
01:11:40,655 --> 01:11:42,655
Speaker 4: No, to the best of my knowledge, there are no

1273
01:11:42,895 --> 01:11:45,895
Speaker 4: household testing kits, so it's a little bit different. Let's say,

1274
01:11:46,255 --> 01:11:48,095
Speaker 4: you know, if you're stripping the outside of a house

1275
01:11:48,095 --> 01:11:49,895
Speaker 4: and you wanted to test whether or not it's lead

1276
01:11:49,935 --> 01:11:52,335
Speaker 4: based paint. There are some you can buy them at

1277
01:11:52,415 --> 01:11:55,175
Speaker 4: razine color shops that sort of thing. So no to

1278
01:11:55,295 --> 01:11:58,535
Speaker 4: the best and even if it was, I wouldn't encourage

1279
01:11:58,575 --> 01:12:02,615
Speaker 4: that because we're talking about, you know, really genuinely significant

1280
01:12:02,655 --> 01:12:08,575
Speaker 4: health risk of exposure to asbestos. And some people might

1281
01:12:08,615 --> 01:12:11,615
Speaker 4: be listening to this going why on earth would there

1282
01:12:11,695 --> 01:12:15,375
Speaker 4: be asbestos in an ironing board. But you know, one

1283
01:12:15,415 --> 01:12:17,095
Speaker 4: of the things that it was used a lot for

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01:12:17,375 --> 01:12:21,495
Speaker 4: was lagging around pipes as an insolation material, that sort

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Speaker 4: of thing, and you can imagine someone making an ironing board.

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Speaker 4: I presume it's a fairly old one. It's a classic maybe.

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Speaker 3: And putting it on the side of the road, to

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01:12:32,175 --> 01:12:36,215
Speaker 3: tell you the honest truth. But well, one of them,

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01:12:36,295 --> 01:12:41,455
Speaker 3: I dad. But I often wonder with these, like the

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Speaker 3: Susie ironing boards that used to come out, and I've

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01:12:44,015 --> 01:12:48,775
Speaker 3: got one. They when you recover them, of course you've

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01:12:48,775 --> 01:12:51,535
Speaker 3: got to take that little piece of I don't know

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Speaker 3: whether it's a hardy plan or what off. And the

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01:12:55,655 --> 01:12:58,695
Speaker 3: other one was actually a lot older. I looked at

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01:12:58,735 --> 01:13:00,375
Speaker 3: it the other day. Not that I use it for

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01:13:00,455 --> 01:13:03,975
Speaker 3: the iron it's just a resting place. I don't put

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Speaker 3: the down.

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Speaker 4: But if you have concerns, I would take a small sample,

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Speaker 4: maybe a centimeter square or something like that, you know,

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01:13:11,335 --> 01:13:14,895
Speaker 4: relatively small, double bag it, send it or deliver it

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01:13:15,015 --> 01:13:18,735
Speaker 4: to a local laboratory. They'll do the testing. In some

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01:13:18,935 --> 01:13:21,655
Speaker 4: cases you can get the results quite quickly. The next

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01:13:21,775 --> 01:13:23,735
Speaker 4: question that raises is what are you going to do

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01:13:23,855 --> 01:13:28,495
Speaker 4: with it if it does come back positive for asbesis. Again,

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01:13:28,695 --> 01:13:31,815
Speaker 4: there will be places that will be able to dispose

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01:13:31,895 --> 01:13:32,575
Speaker 4: of it for you.

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Speaker 3: And it's actually taking them off the ironing.

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Speaker 4: Board right now, okay.

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Speaker 3: And I asked one of the suns and he said

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Speaker 3: I don't know, marm right, it's okay, you're the next best.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Look, if do the testing, if it comes

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01:13:50,495 --> 01:13:54,455
Speaker 4: back positive, then you could contact a local removal place,

1313
01:13:54,695 --> 01:13:57,695
Speaker 4: or if you're confident about just wrapping it up yourself,

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01:13:59,015 --> 01:14:03,135
Speaker 4: double bag it and take it to an approved disposal site.

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01:14:03,135 --> 01:14:05,375
Speaker 4: Because this is one of the concerns as well around

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01:14:05,415 --> 01:14:08,495
Speaker 4: asbestos is that there have been any number of cases

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01:14:08,535 --> 01:14:12,495
Speaker 4: where people have dumped it all over the place or

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01:14:12,615 --> 01:14:13,015
Speaker 4: dumped it.

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Speaker 3: In son who demolished a house and west and they

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01:14:22,895 --> 01:14:28,695
Speaker 3: found three dumps on the underneath when he rebuilt, and

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Speaker 3: so he's understandable.

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01:14:30,215 --> 01:14:32,735
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a case in South Auckland, well not

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01:14:32,815 --> 01:14:36,015
Speaker 4: recently in the last ten years, where you know, maybe

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01:14:36,055 --> 01:14:37,855
Speaker 4: farmer Joe had said to his mates back in the

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01:14:37,935 --> 01:14:39,935
Speaker 4: nineteen seventies, hey, come and tip the stuff down the

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01:14:40,015 --> 01:14:42,135
Speaker 4: back of my place. And it's now a subdivision and

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01:14:42,615 --> 01:14:45,055
Speaker 4: so they're excavating and there suddenly there's all this this

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01:14:45,175 --> 01:14:49,255
Speaker 4: old asbestos buried in the back paddock. So now we've

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01:14:49,295 --> 01:14:51,815
Speaker 4: had a quick call from someone who says they had

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01:14:51,895 --> 01:14:54,775
Speaker 4: someone coming to check on the asbestos. So there's you know,

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01:14:54,895 --> 01:14:56,415
Speaker 4: you might even be able to get someone to come

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01:14:56,495 --> 01:14:59,135
Speaker 4: but either way, send it in for testing and then

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01:14:59,215 --> 01:15:01,935
Speaker 4: you can decide with full knowledge what you're going to

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01:15:02,015 --> 01:15:05,535
Speaker 4: do about it. Thank you, question, Thank you very much.

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01:15:06,415 --> 01:15:08,375
Speaker 4: Care all the best, and in fact, I think this

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Speaker 4: week is asbestos Awareness Week, or it's maybe been the

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01:15:12,855 --> 01:15:17,375
Speaker 4: last week or so. So the best place for guidance

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01:15:17,495 --> 01:15:20,655
Speaker 4: just go to the work Safe website. I think obviously

1339
01:15:20,775 --> 01:15:26,375
Speaker 4: government department independent advice, really good advice around testing, around

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01:15:26,535 --> 01:15:32,415
Speaker 4: where you might find it, which is a scarily large

1341
01:15:32,495 --> 01:15:40,815
Speaker 4: number of places in some cases. Yeah, have a look,

1342
01:15:41,135 --> 01:15:46,295
Speaker 4: be informed, be knowledgeable. That's the key pete, not the

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01:15:46,375 --> 01:15:48,615
Speaker 4: main body of the ironing board. It's the stand at

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01:15:48,655 --> 01:15:51,775
Speaker 4: the end. Ah Okay, that might be part of it

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01:15:51,855 --> 01:16:01,295
Speaker 4: as well. You're interesting to see which component someone says

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01:16:01,335 --> 01:16:04,135
Speaker 4: text through owns is taxed through eighty five dollars to

1347
01:16:04,375 --> 01:16:07,295
Speaker 4: have it tested. That is eighty five doll pro ironing board.

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01:16:07,335 --> 01:16:09,455
Speaker 4: If you take the sample to the lab, it's more

1349
01:16:09,575 --> 01:16:11,335
Speaker 4: if they come out and visit. And I met some

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01:16:11,455 --> 01:16:14,295
Speaker 4: guys at are building conference probably a couple of years ago,

1351
01:16:14,615 --> 01:16:17,535
Speaker 4: who do mobile testing, but they are more designed for

1352
01:16:18,695 --> 01:16:22,495
Speaker 4: let's say, large infrastructure projects where let's say there's there's

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01:16:22,615 --> 01:16:25,655
Speaker 4: excavations over a large area and they need someone on

1354
01:16:25,895 --> 01:16:28,255
Speaker 4: site all the time. They're not really desired where their

1355
01:16:28,295 --> 01:16:31,175
Speaker 4: business isn't designed to sort of cruise around turn up

1356
01:16:31,175 --> 01:16:34,375
Speaker 4: at people's houses doing independent testing. But there is obviously

1357
01:16:34,415 --> 01:16:37,575
Speaker 4: people who are out there that do it again. Caution

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01:16:38,055 --> 01:16:43,135
Speaker 4: is important and professional advice and proper science is really

1359
01:16:43,175 --> 01:16:46,535
Speaker 4: important as well. Fifteen minutes after eight we'll take your calls.

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01:16:47,015 --> 01:16:49,775
Speaker 4: Eight hundred eighty. Ten eighty is the number whether you're.

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Speaker 1: Painting with ceiling, fixing with feds, or wondering how to fix.

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Speaker 5: That hole in the wall.

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Speaker 4: Give Feeder Wolf Cap call on eight hundred eighty.

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Speaker 4: We're talking all things construction. A couple of interesting texts

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01:18:12,935 --> 01:18:16,455
Speaker 4: as well. Wellington one hundred bucks for testing for asbestos

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01:18:16,535 --> 01:18:18,055
Speaker 4: two hundred dollars if you want them to come to

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01:18:18,215 --> 01:18:20,975
Speaker 4: site eighty five dollars in other parts of the country.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not unreasonable, I think, just for the

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Speaker 4: surety Steve, good morning to you, good morning, how are you?

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Speaker 4: Greetings very well, thank you.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 13: I have a conquering wall in my house. On the

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Speaker 13: inside of the concering wall there's some wooden batterns and

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01:18:38,095 --> 01:18:41,215
Speaker 13: then there's some jib. What I'd like to do is

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01:18:41,255 --> 01:18:43,695
Speaker 13: actually put some insulation between the conquering.

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Speaker 5: And the jib. So I have to take the chip

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01:18:44,895 --> 01:18:45,815
Speaker 5: off obviously, but.

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Speaker 13: What should I feel the concrete before putting the insallation

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01:18:49,895 --> 01:18:50,215
Speaker 13: in or.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that would be a sort of a sensible precaution.

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01:18:56,455 --> 01:19:01,055
Speaker 4: And what you could do is to use like there's

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01:19:01,055 --> 01:19:04,375
Speaker 4: a couple of solutions which are a crystalline solution, so

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01:19:04,495 --> 01:19:07,695
Speaker 4: it's it's like a sementis material that you brush on

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01:19:08,335 --> 01:19:12,375
Speaker 4: and then the crystals in that product go looking for

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01:19:12,535 --> 01:19:16,015
Speaker 4: moisture basically, and they'll seal the wall. And the reason

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01:19:16,055 --> 01:19:19,255
Speaker 4: that that's a good thing to do is inevitably there

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01:19:19,295 --> 01:19:23,335
Speaker 4: will be some moisture getting into that wall, so I

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01:19:23,375 --> 01:19:26,255
Speaker 4: would do that, And yes, you can do insulation. However,

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01:19:27,335 --> 01:19:32,735
Speaker 4: it's also true to say that in terms of there's

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01:19:32,775 --> 01:19:34,655
Speaker 4: a thing called the jew point, right, which is the

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01:19:34,735 --> 01:19:37,975
Speaker 4: point at which difference in temperature from inside and outside

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01:19:38,415 --> 01:19:43,775
Speaker 4: causes condensation. By putting your insulation layer on the inside

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01:19:43,815 --> 01:19:47,135
Speaker 4: of your block wall, you're likely to move the dew

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01:19:47,215 --> 01:19:51,415
Speaker 4: point further in, so you're actually drawing moisture in and

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01:19:51,575 --> 01:19:54,495
Speaker 4: that moisture then is going to be trapped there and

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01:19:54,735 --> 01:19:58,615
Speaker 4: may cause mold. So if you are looking for a

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01:19:58,775 --> 01:20:02,455
Speaker 4: really good solution to the insulation, you would actually put

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01:20:02,495 --> 01:20:07,135
Speaker 4: your insulation on the outside of the block wall. That's

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01:20:07,175 --> 01:20:11,455
Speaker 4: a whole different, you know, project to what you might

1420
01:20:11,535 --> 01:20:16,095
Speaker 4: be looking at. But it's worth considering that you don't,

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01:20:17,015 --> 01:20:20,335
Speaker 4: you know, you may add insulation and cause another problem.

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01:20:22,095 --> 01:20:23,855
Speaker 5: So you're saying it might be better just to leave

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01:20:23,895 --> 01:20:24,895
Speaker 5: it as it is.

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01:20:25,655 --> 01:20:27,855
Speaker 4: It may actually be better just to leave it as

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01:20:27,895 --> 01:20:30,495
Speaker 4: it is. And you know, if you've listened to me

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01:20:30,655 --> 01:20:33,615
Speaker 4: over the years, I'm a huge fan of insulation because

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01:20:33,855 --> 01:20:36,975
Speaker 4: we know that it adds so many benefits, right, but

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01:20:37,295 --> 01:20:39,455
Speaker 4: it's really really important that you're putting it in the

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01:20:39,615 --> 01:20:43,295
Speaker 4: right place depending on your build up of your wall.

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01:20:44,455 --> 01:20:47,655
Speaker 4: And I remember having long discussions with some people about

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01:20:47,695 --> 01:20:50,255
Speaker 4: this a few years ago. So for example, just before

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01:20:50,255 --> 01:20:52,415
Speaker 4: the news, we're talking with Mike Olts, right. So one

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01:20:52,455 --> 01:20:57,695
Speaker 4: of the Razine Construction products is an insulated panel, and

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01:20:57,815 --> 01:21:01,455
Speaker 4: we did a project where we had, you know, nineteen

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01:21:01,575 --> 01:21:05,735
Speaker 4: eighties house block basement. Wanted to insulate that and we

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01:21:05,855 --> 01:21:11,415
Speaker 4: actually apply the Razine Construction insulated panels to the exterior

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01:21:11,495 --> 01:21:14,455
Speaker 4: of it, rendered over it and dealt with that transition

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01:21:14,695 --> 01:21:17,055
Speaker 4: at the top with a flashing and in fact, one

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01:21:17,055 --> 01:21:18,775
Speaker 4: of my jobs this week was looking at a house

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01:21:18,815 --> 01:21:24,095
Speaker 4: where again block basement, ground floor nineteen fifties construction, a

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01:21:24,175 --> 01:21:27,295
Speaker 4: couple of issues with mold and dampness on the inside

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01:21:27,295 --> 01:21:30,815
Speaker 4: of the building, and my recommendation to that homeowner was,

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01:21:31,575 --> 01:21:34,135
Speaker 4: if you really want to solve the problem, well let's

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01:21:34,175 --> 01:21:39,175
Speaker 4: look at adding insulation to the exterior of the block. Okay,

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01:21:40,015 --> 01:21:43,055
Speaker 4: that's it, which is not really the answer that you

1446
01:21:43,215 --> 01:21:46,735
Speaker 4: were probably thinking was going to come along. But you know,

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01:21:46,895 --> 01:21:50,895
Speaker 4: this is building science, right, this is understanding how walls work,

1448
01:21:50,975 --> 01:21:54,455
Speaker 4: how moisture works, how the you know where the dew

1449
01:21:54,535 --> 01:21:58,335
Speaker 4: point is. So it's worth getting some professional advice about.

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01:21:58,655 --> 01:22:00,535
Speaker 4: You know, if I'm going to make a change, I

1451
01:22:00,615 --> 01:22:02,295
Speaker 4: want to make sure I get a benefit from it,

1452
01:22:02,735 --> 01:22:06,215
Speaker 4: not make a change and inadvertently cause other problem.

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01:22:07,495 --> 01:22:10,655
Speaker 13: Yeah, okay, thank you very much.

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01:22:10,735 --> 01:22:13,055
Speaker 4: Probably not where you thought this conversation was going to go,

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01:22:13,295 --> 01:22:15,495
Speaker 4: but that's that's the nature of it.

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01:22:15,735 --> 01:22:17,895
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'm going to make it worse.

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01:22:18,135 --> 01:22:21,095
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, you know, and in that sense, like the

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01:22:21,575 --> 01:22:26,695
Speaker 4: difference in performance is dramatic, you know, by doing that

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01:22:27,015 --> 01:22:30,255
Speaker 4: basically outsolation, right this and this is a phrase that

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01:22:30,335 --> 01:22:33,375
Speaker 4: we're using in the sector a lot more now, and

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01:22:33,655 --> 01:22:36,575
Speaker 4: in terms of deep retrofits for buildings, right, do we

1462
01:22:36,695 --> 01:22:40,015
Speaker 4: take them apart and jam insulation is in, which is

1463
01:22:40,175 --> 01:22:43,935
Speaker 4: okay if it's done correctly, or do we look at saying, hey, look,

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01:22:43,975 --> 01:22:46,295
Speaker 4: I'm going to keep this building pretty much as it is,

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01:22:46,375 --> 01:22:49,775
Speaker 4: but I'm going to wrap the outside insulation. And I've

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01:22:50,455 --> 01:22:52,855
Speaker 4: been doing a bit of reading on it. There's a

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01:22:52,895 --> 01:22:56,375
Speaker 4: guy who's who's got a system called Parker Rap where

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01:22:56,855 --> 01:22:59,615
Speaker 4: he's developed a whole system that allows you to add

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01:22:59,735 --> 01:23:03,775
Speaker 4: insulation to an existing building without changing the inside at all. Right,

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01:23:05,615 --> 01:23:08,895
Speaker 4: And then, interestingly enough, I was looking at some content

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Speaker 4: from overseas where let's say you've got a two or

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01:23:11,375 --> 01:23:14,935
Speaker 4: three story apartment block in Europe and Germany and the

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01:23:15,015 --> 01:23:18,855
Speaker 4: Netherlands and that sort of thing which is maybe double brick,

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01:23:20,095 --> 01:23:23,975
Speaker 4: no insulation apart from the brick or or block work

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01:23:24,055 --> 01:23:26,935
Speaker 4: in it, and they're looking at these sort of retro

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01:23:27,055 --> 01:23:29,935
Speaker 4: fit insulation systems adding a whole new facade to it

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01:23:30,135 --> 01:23:32,815
Speaker 4: and increasing the performance of the building. So you know,

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01:23:32,895 --> 01:23:37,655
Speaker 4: it's a global issue that we're talking about as well. Yeah,

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01:23:39,095 --> 01:23:43,615
Speaker 4: some reading to do, mate, all the best, My pleasure,

1480
01:23:43,695 --> 01:23:47,135
Speaker 4: take care all of this your news talk ZB not

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01:23:47,215 --> 01:23:50,615
Speaker 4: probably where that conversation was going to go. Hey, Pete,

1482
01:23:50,655 --> 01:23:53,055
Speaker 4: asbestos is safe if it's not broken or cut. True

1483
01:23:53,175 --> 01:23:55,855
Speaker 4: specialist talking on news talkszb talk this week and said

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01:23:55,895 --> 01:23:59,495
Speaker 4: it's like a hardy side house, only dangerous when cut

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01:23:59,895 --> 01:24:02,215
Speaker 4: or the particles are released into the air. That's Linda

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01:24:02,255 --> 01:24:04,455
Speaker 4: from Hastings look, and I agree, And that's pretty much

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01:24:04,495 --> 01:24:12,935
Speaker 4: been my approach because the concern is for people that

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01:24:12,975 --> 01:24:15,775
Speaker 4: are unfamiliar with what happens with asbestos is there are

1489
01:24:15,895 --> 01:24:19,415
Speaker 4: fibers and asbestos which when they become friable, when they

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01:24:19,535 --> 01:24:24,295
Speaker 4: become airborne and are inhaled, lodge in the lung. And

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01:24:24,415 --> 01:24:28,455
Speaker 4: I've had them described as imagine tiny little fishocks, right

1492
01:24:28,575 --> 01:24:32,055
Speaker 4: that if inhaled, those fibers sit in the lung and

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01:24:32,175 --> 01:24:37,935
Speaker 4: then cause respiratory disease, asbestosis and other really nasty illnesses.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, on its own, left undisturbed, very little health

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Speaker 4: risk basically zero. But let's say you decide, you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know that you're going to put a door

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Speaker 4: into a wall that's got asbestos, and you take an

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Speaker 4: angle grinder out and you start hacking away at that

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Speaker 4: material and you don't have the ppe and you're not

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Speaker 4: doing extraction and all the rest of it, and those

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Speaker 4: fibers become airborne. That's where the risk is. So I

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Speaker 4: agree it is safe left undisturbed. As soon as you

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Speaker 4: disturb it or you know, we've had people phone the

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Speaker 4: show going, hey, look I've got a house. It might

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Speaker 4: have ACM and the cladding. I want to prep it.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: The last thing you want to do is hit it

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01:25:19,535 --> 01:25:22,735
Speaker 4: within a random orbital sander, because that's again part of

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01:25:22,815 --> 01:25:26,335
Speaker 4: that becoming friable, becoming airborne. So that's what we really

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Speaker 4: really need to be super cautious around. Great to know

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Speaker 4: that there is lots and lots of testing available. There's

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Speaker 4: all sorts of labs around the country now that are

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Speaker 4: doing it. I'm loving this to such a great spending

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Speaker 4: of a Sunday morning understanding building science. Awesome, Pete, this

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01:25:43,175 --> 01:25:45,575
Speaker 4: old bird is loving the show. Finally we've got some

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01:25:45,695 --> 01:25:48,415
Speaker 4: time and some money to do renovations. I did a

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01:25:48,495 --> 01:25:52,815
Speaker 4: bit of a podcast slash interview about something like this

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Speaker 4: the other day, and I guess it's that thing around

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01:25:55,935 --> 01:25:59,135
Speaker 4: going if you've got money for a renovation, you've got

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01:25:59,215 --> 01:26:03,095
Speaker 4: to be really clear, I think, on what your focus

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Speaker 4: is going to be and while I'm not saying that

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01:26:05,975 --> 01:26:09,935
Speaker 4: this are not important, but you know, what I'm trying

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Speaker 4: to encourage is that you put your money into improving

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01:26:13,855 --> 01:26:17,415
Speaker 4: the performance of the building. You know, if that's better insulation,

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Speaker 4: better draft proofing, better moisture control, better ventilation systems, efficient

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Speaker 4: energy heating or water heating, those sorts of things, they

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01:26:28,895 --> 01:26:32,935
Speaker 4: will pay benefits a long time after. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: something flash and shiny that looks really good but doesn't

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Speaker 4: increase the performance of the building at all. Oh wait,

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Speaker 4: one eighty, ten eighty, the number to four will take

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Speaker 4: a break. We'll be back with root hopefully in just

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Speaker 4: a moment. Good squeaky door or squeaky floor.

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