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Speaker 3: Hello, you got to good afternoon. Welcome into the Saturday

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Speaker 3: edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks edby. August thirty,

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday to one of our best ever board sailors,

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Speaker 3: three time Olympic medalist Barbara Kendall. Happy birthday, Barbara Grows

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Speaker 3: Wiley would have been eighty one today. We lost the

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Speaker 3: great man earlier this year and KeyWe Motorsport pineyer Bruce

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Speaker 3: McLaren also born on this day, nineteen thirty seven. I'm

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Speaker 3: Jason Pine Show producer Andy McDonald. We're talking sport until

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Speaker 3: three never ever ever a knock on and that Warriors

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Speaker 3: game last night. I don't usually like to use officiating

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Speaker 3: as an excuse for the way games turn out, but

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Speaker 3: that bunker call bemused me and still does. Warriors twenty

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Speaker 3: two Eels twenty six. The Warriors stay fourth for now,

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Speaker 3: but one or both of the Broncos and Sharks could

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Speaker 3: go past them. The Broncos play the Cowboys tonight, the

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Speaker 3: Sharks play the Knights tomorrow. A win for either would

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Speaker 3: take them level on points with the Warriors and above

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Speaker 3: them on points differential with just one game to go.

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Speaker 3: Warriors CEO Cam George is along shortly. Your thoughts too,

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Speaker 3: Warriors fans about that decision? Maybe you can shed some

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Speaker 3: light on it for me? What am I missing? And

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Speaker 3: the Warriors can now finish fourth, fifth or sixth? What's

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Speaker 3: your prediction? Plenty to chat about this hour NRL wise,

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Speaker 3: and we're a week away from the biggest rugby test

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Speaker 3: of the year, All Black Spring Boks Eden Park a

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Speaker 3: week tonight. No South African rugby legend Breton paulser with

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Speaker 3: us after one o'clock with a South African viewpoint and

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Speaker 3: after two Caleb Clark's on the show making his return

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Speaker 3: to rugby from an ankle injury for Auckland tomorrow. Might

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Speaker 3: he be back in Black next weekend? Other matters around today,

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Speaker 3: the preferred eight football clubs or the inaugural ofc Professional League,

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Speaker 3: which is underway in January, have been confirmed by Oceannia Football.

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Speaker 3: Among them christ Uch United opening a professional football pathway

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Speaker 3: in the South Island for the very first time. Club

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Speaker 3: general manager and first team head coach Ryan Edwards is

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Speaker 3: with us on how significant this is. The other major

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Speaker 3: talking point yesterday was the O mission of Wellington Phoenix

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Speaker 3: response to that OW mission. We can talk about that

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Speaker 3: after one. The incredible story to today of Kiwe power

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Speaker 3: climber Rachel Meyer. She is heading off shortly to the

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Speaker 3: World Champs. Her backstory is utterly remarkable. You don't want

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Speaker 3: to miss this one. Chatting to Rachel Mayer around two

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Speaker 3: twenty this afternoon. Adam Peacock out of Australia as usual

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Speaker 3: five of the Bunnings NPC continues. Leaders Canterbury welcome eighth

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Speaker 3: placed Munawatu to Orangiora five past two kickoff on that one.

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Speaker 3: We'll get you a preview with match commentator Nick Buley.

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Speaker 3: Next hour. Second bottom Counties Manico hosting second top Taranaki

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Speaker 3: Pharaoh Palmercapp is underway. Counties Maniico against Hawks Bay twenty

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Speaker 3: two five and that one approaching halftime to the home side.

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Speaker 3: Counties Manaw two take on Auckland this afternoon five past two,

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Speaker 3: and there are Heartland Championship Round three games in Torria, Masterton, Westport,

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Speaker 3: as well. As you heard in the news from Waino.

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Speaker 3: Novak Djokovic has beaten Cam Norri sixty four well and

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Speaker 3: four to Djokovic in the first set one love. Nori

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Speaker 3: A moment of major controversy late in the Warriors Eels

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Speaker 3: match at go Media last night, Aristavita goes highest time.

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Speaker 3: I can't tasting that. Just a hoss to Waters on

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Speaker 3: their feet here, everybody was on their feet. Adam Pompey

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Speaker 3: going over supposedly for a try which would have leveled

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Speaker 3: to play. Instead, this a bunker of you looking for

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Speaker 3: a knock on in the contest.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's touch off to Metrick in the contest. It's a

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Speaker 3: knock on Warrior's hand over here, play the ball. I'll

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Speaker 3: talk about that one. Yeah, we'll talk about that one. Indeed,

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Speaker 3: Glenn Lama or a bunker calling or caller overruling the

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Speaker 3: on field decision of try try chalked off. After the game,

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Speaker 3: Dimitric Aimonga said he did get a touch on the ball.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I did, such a I thought I was facing

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Speaker 5: my own ball line and thought it was knock back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've watched this twenty times and you can't tell

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Speaker 3: me unequivocally that that ball had gone forward off demetric

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Speaker 3: via amonger's hand. No doubt you'll have a view. We'll

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Speaker 3: open the lines shortly. Worry your CEO, Cam George, as

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Speaker 3: with us. Did you think that was I can't get

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Speaker 3: Cameron on the air for some reason, Andy, you might

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Speaker 3: have to do that for me. I can't quite flick

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Speaker 3: the CEO of the Warriors across to on air. Let

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Speaker 3: me say if I can try it now. I think

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Speaker 3: I've got you there, Cam. Did you think it was

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Speaker 3: a knock on? I don't think we've got Cam George

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Speaker 3: there for some reason. Andy, all right, we're going to

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Speaker 3: try and get him back. This is quite an important

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Speaker 3: conversation to have, actually, so let's see if we can

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Speaker 3: to open the lines, and already the text are flowing

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Speaker 3: in on eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty the phone calls,

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Speaker 3: and nine to nine to two the text messages. People

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Speaker 3: already trying to get through to us. All right, let's

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Speaker 3: see if we can get Cam George on the air

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Speaker 3: us there? Cam? All right, let's take a break, come

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Speaker 3: back and we'll bring you the Warrior's CEO.

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Speaker 3: All right twelve to seventeen, but of a whole star

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Speaker 3: at Camp. George is with us now. Thanks for your patients, Cameron.

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Speaker 3: Did you think it was a knock on? Look?

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Speaker 6: I just can't see whether it is or whether it isn't. Look,

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Speaker 6: the end of the day, the decision has been made.

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Speaker 7: My job is to make.

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Speaker 6: Sure that our club's ready to go for next week,

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Speaker 6: and I just I feel like with that particular decision

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Speaker 3: Is there anything you can do?

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Speaker 7: Not really, Mate, at the end of the day. We

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Speaker 6: I can reach out at the NRL, but it's not

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Speaker 6: you know, I might have a discussion with the NRL

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Speaker 6: just around their view of it. You know, I've heard

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Speaker 6: all different things since then about you know, they've got

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Speaker 6: this and they've seen that and all that. Well, that's

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Speaker 6: all great, but the end of the day, if they

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Speaker 6: got to move on. It's just too important time of

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 3: How do you assess where the team is at with

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, I'm really proud of out boys. You know,

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Speaker 6: It's such a tight competition. But so proud of the

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Speaker 7: Know, James Fisher Harris came off.

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Speaker 6: We had you know, Eddie and Tanner and Dimitric and

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Speaker 6: that's what it's all about. And the amount of kids

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Speaker 7: Hidden into the.

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Speaker 3: Finals absolutely and hitting into the future as well, I

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Speaker 3: think cam because we all know what happened in twenty

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Speaker 3: This year we're back up there and challenging for a

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Speaker 6: And that's why we've got all of our pathway systems

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Speaker 6: South Wales Cup competition. I think the average age and

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Speaker 6: there are so many kids in our club that this

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Speaker 6: experience will be absolutely fantastic for the future of our

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Speaker 6: well as trying to win now. And that's why you

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Speaker 6: know there's a transition period.

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Speaker 7: But I tell you what, it's very exciting.

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Speaker 6: When you look at our junior teams and their success

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Speaker 3: I do want to get back to the prems in

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Speaker 3: a minute, but you're right. New Southwest Cup side played

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Speaker 3: twenty three one twenty, lost a couple and drawn one.

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Speaker 3: You're nine points clear at the top. Can you tell

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Speaker 3: the New South Wales Cup side one down from the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, I think David tang Katara, the coach,

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Speaker 6: deserves a lot of credit. It's the hardest job in

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Speaker 7: Hell of a difference.

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Speaker 3: The what's the substance of the conversations you have with him?

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Speaker 6: Not for you, no, mate. My passion, my whole goal

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Speaker 3: All right, yeah, and you might have be able to

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Speaker 6: But yeah, look, they'll get to market very quickly through

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Speaker 7: What it looks like for us.

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Speaker 6: You know, this stage, I'm hoping we're off to camera

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Speaker 7: But if we're not, we're home.

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Speaker 6: You know, let's just fill the house and and have

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Speaker 3: Really appreciate your time, Cameron, Thanks for joining us, mate,

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Speaker 3: Cheers mate. So yeah, that's Cameron George, Chief executive the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: Of course, always love chatting to Cameron Georgie. Just yeah,

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Speaker 3: many ways. All Right, Warriors fans, let's go I eight

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Speaker 9: Yeah look, first of all, Webster's comment after the game,

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Speaker 9: jump started. They've woken up and gone well. I mean,

431
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Speaker 9: the last thirty minutes was very impressive, but where was

432
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Speaker 9: that for the first fifty Having said all that, I

433
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Speaker 9: don't know if you heard Cooper Kronks or if you

434
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Speaker 9: guys get their telecast when it went back to the

435
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Speaker 9: Fox studios, he said, well, you've got to realize that

436
00:23:05,627 --> 00:23:08,547
Speaker 9: the bunker has far more angles to look at and

437
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Speaker 9: to adjudicate on. And now, if you're a cynic, you think, well,

438
00:23:13,107 --> 00:23:16,107
Speaker 9: only the bunker sees what the bunkers said. I won't

439
00:23:16,147 --> 00:23:21,187
Speaker 9: prescribe to as an organized campaign by the powers that

440
00:23:21,307 --> 00:23:26,267
Speaker 9: be to rob the warriors, but they don't certainly get

441
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Speaker 9: their share of the fifty to fifty bulls, and basically

442
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Speaker 9: I think that they get scrutinized far more. I mean,

443
00:23:38,147 --> 00:23:41,667
Speaker 9: it went upstairs as a try. My understanding is that

444
00:23:42,307 --> 00:23:45,547
Speaker 9: unless it's impelling evidence, you can't turn it Dawn going

445
00:23:45,627 --> 00:23:49,307
Speaker 9: to the out reminds me. It reminds me of the

446
00:23:49,307 --> 00:23:51,427
Speaker 9: case of last year's World Cup. It was definitely a

447
00:23:51,507 --> 00:23:53,787
Speaker 9: knock on when they all back scored a Troy, but

448
00:23:53,867 --> 00:23:57,227
Speaker 9: they went back something like seven phases of play, and

449
00:23:57,267 --> 00:23:59,907
Speaker 9: the rules are you can only go back four or five.

450
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Speaker 9: What I'm trying to say is you have a rule.

451
00:24:02,547 --> 00:24:06,107
Speaker 9: You are bid across the board. You don't be selective

452
00:24:06,107 --> 00:24:08,987
Speaker 9: with the Bunker's got a lot to ask for. The

453
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Speaker 9: last thing I'll say is I wish some of New

454
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Speaker 9: Zealand fans would stop bagging the hell out of last

455
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Speaker 9: night's referee. They didn't get robbed by the referee. They

456
00:24:18,067 --> 00:24:21,347
Speaker 9: got robbed by the bunker. Stuff on Facebook? Did him

457
00:24:21,387 --> 00:24:23,587
Speaker 9: in the car park and bash and and ship like that?

458
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Speaker 9: Sorry word?

459
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Speaker 10: Really?

460
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Speaker 9: Yeah, you've got a point you're going to ax to grind.

461
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Speaker 9: It's with the bunker, not with the referee. I thought

462
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Speaker 9: he did a reasonable job.

463
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Speaker 3: I thought he did too long. I thought he was

464
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Speaker 3: on the whole good and he gave the try on

465
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Speaker 3: the field. What the point you make about the bunker

466
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Speaker 3: and that they see angles that the rest of us

467
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Speaker 3: don't see. My question is why do they or to

468
00:24:47,947 --> 00:24:51,227
Speaker 3: flip it? Why don't we see the angles that they see.

469
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Speaker 3: We are the fans of the game. We deserve to

470
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Speaker 3: see the angles that lead the bunker to the decision

471
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Speaker 3: that they make don't we it's all very well, I

472
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Speaker 3: say no, no, you know, we see a lot more angles.

473
00:25:05,867 --> 00:25:08,427
Speaker 3: We see stuff you don't see. That's not good enough.

474
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Speaker 3: We are the fans of the game. Put the fan

475
00:25:11,747 --> 00:25:16,187
Speaker 3: in the middle of the conversation. Here's the camera angle

476
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Speaker 3: the bunker sees. Here is why we're making this ruling.

477
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Speaker 3: Thanks for your call. I appreciate it very much, mate.

478
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Speaker 3: Go well, hello, Greg, Hey.

479
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Speaker 11: You doing bunny very good. I'm going to answer your

480
00:25:29,027 --> 00:25:33,547
Speaker 11: question what you just asked with the word time. They

481
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Speaker 11: don't have time to show us every single angle. Rugby

482
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Speaker 11: Union has gone through this whole thing of trying to

483
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Speaker 11: speed their game up. We're doing the same. So that's

484
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Speaker 11: why we don't get to see everything.

485
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Speaker 3: But what we see. But we see But Greg, we

486
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Speaker 3: see angles. We see angles we see on the big screen,

487
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Speaker 3: on our television screens. You know an angle. Why don't

488
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Speaker 3: they show us the most important angle, the one that

489
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Speaker 3: the bunker is rolling on.

490
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Speaker 11: I don't know, but that's that's us. You can go

491
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Speaker 11: through every single game and look at a knock on

492
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Speaker 11: and in your mind it wasn't knocked on. How can

493
00:26:10,747 --> 00:26:13,627
Speaker 11: they call that a knock on? So I think there

494
00:26:13,707 --> 00:26:17,907
Speaker 11: is some consistency in what they're doing, because we're not

495
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Speaker 11: the only team that you know, I think they've had

496
00:26:20,827 --> 00:26:22,867
Speaker 11: a bum call from the bunker.

497
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good point, good point.

498
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Speaker 11: We shouldn't let the last play basically of the game

499
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Speaker 11: be the defining factor of why we lost. The reason

500
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Speaker 11: why we lost is what Lyle just said. For the

501
00:26:38,947 --> 00:26:41,147
Speaker 11: first for a few minutes, we weren't even in the competition,

502
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Speaker 11: and then all of a sudden, it looks like they've

503
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Speaker 11: had a jumpstart and everybody's fired up. Well, that doesn't

504
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Speaker 11: win finals.

505
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Speaker 3: No, it's a good point, Greg, And you're right, they

506
00:26:56,187 --> 00:26:59,227
Speaker 3: never led the whole game. The Warriors did not have

507
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Speaker 3: the lead in the entire game. I thought they had

508
00:27:01,387 --> 00:27:03,747
Speaker 3: it right near the end. But yeah, so you're right,

509
00:27:03,747 --> 00:27:06,747
Speaker 3: they were coming from behind. And when they do play

510
00:27:07,267 --> 00:27:11,547
Speaker 3: and Rogers try and lea Ahla Semas two tries, particularly

511
00:27:11,587 --> 00:27:14,467
Speaker 3: that one when he climbs like an AFL player and

512
00:27:14,507 --> 00:27:16,547
Speaker 3: pulls it down in scores. You know, you're right, where

513
00:27:16,667 --> 00:27:17,747
Speaker 3: was that minute fourteen?

514
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Speaker 11: You know that we've we've been in this situation so

515
00:27:22,987 --> 00:27:26,947
Speaker 11: many times this year where we have to try and

516
00:27:27,067 --> 00:27:31,227
Speaker 11: play eighty minutes of football in twenty minutes. That's left.

517
00:27:32,307 --> 00:27:35,467
Speaker 11: They need to you know you said before, be consistent.

518
00:27:36,627 --> 00:27:39,507
Speaker 11: They need to. They need to play for eighty minutes,

519
00:27:39,547 --> 00:27:42,947
Speaker 11: not play for twenty. The other teams are playing like

520
00:27:44,707 --> 00:27:47,107
Speaker 11: you play the first forty minutes and you're going at

521
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Speaker 11: one hundred miles an hour. You build up this impressive lead,

522
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Speaker 11: then you defend for the second forty. Basically, the Warriors

523
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Speaker 11: don't do any of that. They get behind, they think,

524
00:28:02,067 --> 00:28:06,507
Speaker 11: holy hell, we're going to start playing football. And I

525
00:28:06,507 --> 00:28:09,987
Speaker 11: I take umbrage at what Cameron George said. Also, you

526
00:28:10,027 --> 00:28:14,747
Speaker 11: know he's concentrating on talking about the juniors blah blah blah.

527
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Speaker 11: But what us fans recognize is the first team. We

528
00:28:18,987 --> 00:28:21,227
Speaker 11: know that they all have to be there and coming through.

529
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Speaker 11: But what puts bums on seat? What's money in their pockets?

530
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Speaker 11: Us watching the first team? We want the first team

531
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Speaker 11: to win.

532
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Speaker 3: Greg, you make some great points, as always, mate, don't

533
00:28:33,907 --> 00:28:36,027
Speaker 3: lose the passion. Please call back over the next month

534
00:28:36,107 --> 00:28:38,387
Speaker 3: or so, look forward to jenningson more rugby league with you.

535
00:28:38,507 --> 00:28:40,587
Speaker 3: To be fair to Cameron George, I let him down

536
00:28:40,627 --> 00:28:43,067
Speaker 3: that path. I asked him about the new South Wales

537
00:28:43,147 --> 00:28:46,107
Speaker 3: Cup team. So yep, no, but your point is valid

538
00:28:47,147 --> 00:28:49,867
Speaker 3: you're right. I mean, we judge our sports teams on

539
00:28:49,987 --> 00:28:52,667
Speaker 3: the first team, don't we. Someone once said to me

540
00:28:52,707 --> 00:28:56,027
Speaker 3: it actually doesn't matter inside a sporting organization whether any

541
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Speaker 3: of your other teams win, as long as the first

542
00:28:57,507 --> 00:29:00,987
Speaker 3: team does. I don't know that's entirely one hundred percent accurate,

543
00:29:01,027 --> 00:29:02,587
Speaker 3: but I understand the philosophy behind it.

544
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Speaker 8: Hello, John, Hey there, then your listeners. I'm a league

545
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Speaker 8: for that fan, and by god, the Worriers did very proud.

546
00:29:13,227 --> 00:29:17,947
Speaker 8: I've really enjoyed the game. Unfortunately, what is is and

547
00:29:18,267 --> 00:29:21,427
Speaker 8: I've just seen a few things that makes my heart

548
00:29:21,907 --> 00:29:25,107
Speaker 8: jump up and down. As you've got to reach for

549
00:29:25,187 --> 00:29:27,467
Speaker 8: the ball. I've seen a lot of the guys passing

550
00:29:27,507 --> 00:29:30,187
Speaker 8: the ball and they are on the running. There's something

551
00:29:30,267 --> 00:29:34,267
Speaker 8: worse than jumping high and trying to run at the

552
00:29:34,307 --> 00:29:37,907
Speaker 8: same time. And yeah, a lot of it's from a

553
00:29:37,987 --> 00:29:40,827
Speaker 8: half like the half backs. I think to throw it

554
00:29:40,907 --> 00:29:43,227
Speaker 8: high in the year, Well, you get a guy running

555
00:29:43,267 --> 00:29:46,387
Speaker 8: hard and you've got to stretch up and catch that,

556
00:29:46,627 --> 00:29:48,307
Speaker 8: and yeah, it makes things a.

557
00:29:48,267 --> 00:29:48,987
Speaker 9: Wee bit harder.

558
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Speaker 8: I was always talked to get it into the chest

559
00:29:51,827 --> 00:29:55,787
Speaker 8: that stays, and that's where hopefully ends up. And but

560
00:29:56,267 --> 00:30:01,347
Speaker 8: for the Worriers. Well done for them? Well done. Yeah,

561
00:30:01,467 --> 00:30:03,147
Speaker 8: that's the only thing I'd like to say.

562
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Speaker 3: Well, it's a very good point, John, Thank you for

563
00:30:05,627 --> 00:30:07,307
Speaker 3: calling and having the positive side of it. Look, when

564
00:30:07,307 --> 00:30:09,467
Speaker 3: they play well, You're so right. When they play well,

565
00:30:10,267 --> 00:30:13,067
Speaker 3: they just look a million dollars, don't they. And that's it,

566
00:30:13,147 --> 00:30:16,787
Speaker 3: isn't it. It's like anything, you get a glimpse of

567
00:30:16,787 --> 00:30:19,227
Speaker 3: what is possible from your team, and often more than

568
00:30:19,227 --> 00:30:24,107
Speaker 3: a glimpse. When the Warriors play well, my goodness, they

569
00:30:24,107 --> 00:30:28,227
Speaker 3: are untouchable. They are so exciting to watch. You can

570
00:30:28,267 --> 00:30:30,907
Speaker 3: see why there are a lot of people's favorite other team.

571
00:30:32,547 --> 00:30:35,787
Speaker 3: And so that's the huge conundrum for Andrew Webster. And

572
00:30:35,827 --> 00:30:38,947
Speaker 3: I've heard him say this after many many matches, wins

573
00:30:38,947 --> 00:30:42,427
Speaker 3: and losses, we are still searching for that perfect performance.

574
00:30:42,507 --> 00:30:44,947
Speaker 3: We know, he said last night. We know the team

575
00:30:45,067 --> 00:30:49,307
Speaker 3: we can be. We all know that too as fans.

576
00:30:50,067 --> 00:30:52,827
Speaker 3: We know the team they can be. John, Thanks for

577
00:30:52,827 --> 00:30:54,107
Speaker 3: your call. We're going to take a break. But before

578
00:30:54,107 --> 00:30:55,627
Speaker 3: I do, I just got one text through here, which

579
00:30:55,867 --> 00:30:58,947
Speaker 3: I was expecting, because this is the kind of comment

580
00:30:59,027 --> 00:31:02,227
Speaker 3: that appears on mainly on Facebook actually, where it's a

581
00:31:02,227 --> 00:31:04,627
Speaker 3: bit like the Wild West. After rugby league games and

582
00:31:04,667 --> 00:31:07,427
Speaker 3: sports games. And it is this, and I'm sure you've

583
00:31:07,467 --> 00:31:09,947
Speaker 3: heard this, The NRL don't want the Warriors to win

584
00:31:10,267 --> 00:31:13,267
Speaker 3: their game. Whenever it gets close to the finals, it's

585
00:31:13,267 --> 00:31:16,867
Speaker 3: a no go. Now. The implication there is that the

586
00:31:16,987 --> 00:31:22,427
Speaker 3: NRL as an organization, somehow have this hidden agenda that

587
00:31:22,467 --> 00:31:25,467
Speaker 3: the Warriors are not to win the NRL and that

588
00:31:25,547 --> 00:31:29,307
Speaker 3: flows down through their officiating. I think that is that

589
00:31:29,427 --> 00:31:37,467
Speaker 3: is the most ridiculous assertion that somehow in the ivory

590
00:31:37,627 --> 00:31:44,307
Speaker 3: towers of NRL HQ, they are devising methods under which

591
00:31:44,347 --> 00:31:47,907
Speaker 3: the Warriors cannot win the NRL or not win NRL games,

592
00:31:48,347 --> 00:31:52,867
Speaker 3: and putting pressure on referees or bunkers. It's a it's

593
00:31:52,907 --> 00:32:00,107
Speaker 3: a handy and perhaps you know, comforting conspiracy theory, but

594
00:32:00,147 --> 00:32:03,107
Speaker 3: it ain't the case. Nineteen to one Back in a mote.

595
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596
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597
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599
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Speaker 3: According to one Robbie says as a long suffering ill

600
00:32:18,467 --> 00:32:20,747
Speaker 3: support and no way that went forward. The Warriors were robbed.

601
00:32:20,787 --> 00:32:23,827
Speaker 3: Yet somehow that made the wind sweeter got on your Robbie.

602
00:32:23,827 --> 00:32:25,347
Speaker 3: Glad you enjoyed it, can I Mark?

603
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Speaker 12: Hey Piney. Yeah, just to go conspiracy theory on the

604
00:32:30,947 --> 00:32:33,787
Speaker 12: NRL organization, I think they're really missing a trick not

605
00:32:33,867 --> 00:32:36,547
Speaker 12: having a team in christ Churts, considering the seats of

606
00:32:36,587 --> 00:32:39,787
Speaker 12: the Warriors and the organization then you know, wanting to

607
00:32:39,787 --> 00:32:41,667
Speaker 12: grow the sport here. I think if they had a

608
00:32:41,747 --> 00:32:43,907
Speaker 12: team playing in that new stadium down there, it would

609
00:32:44,147 --> 00:32:46,787
Speaker 12: absolutely got game busters down there and be a real

610
00:32:47,187 --> 00:32:50,267
Speaker 12: financial winner for the NRL. And I don't really understand

611
00:32:50,267 --> 00:32:52,027
Speaker 12: why they haven't done that, to be honest.

612
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great point and I think you have

613
00:32:54,307 --> 00:32:56,827
Speaker 3: if the orp FC example of showing us anything, it's

614
00:32:56,867 --> 00:33:00,827
Speaker 3: the rivalries within New Zealand work well in Australian competitions.

615
00:33:01,347 --> 00:33:06,867
Speaker 3: You're right, great venue and the Warriors have been, you know,

616
00:33:07,547 --> 00:33:10,467
Speaker 3: really impressive on the why they've conducted themselves in many

617
00:33:10,507 --> 00:33:13,107
Speaker 3: different facets. Well what it one day, Mark, I'm sure,

618
00:33:13,147 --> 00:33:13,827
Speaker 3: I'm sure of it.

619
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I think they're unlucky last night, but

620
00:33:17,747 --> 00:33:19,627
Speaker 12: to me, as a team at the moment, the team

621
00:33:19,627 --> 00:33:21,867
Speaker 12: they're putting on the field is really good. I think

622
00:33:21,867 --> 00:33:24,667
Speaker 12: they've got the best full pack in the competition that's

623
00:33:24,747 --> 00:33:27,947
Speaker 12: left considering you know, you've got Placena. One of the

624
00:33:27,987 --> 00:33:30,507
Speaker 12: biggest sort of new stars that have come into the

625
00:33:30,587 --> 00:33:33,467
Speaker 12: NRL this year is on the bench coming in scoring

626
00:33:33,547 --> 00:33:37,947
Speaker 12: two tries. I think Martin when he came on and

627
00:33:38,107 --> 00:33:40,707
Speaker 12: sort of almost took up that number seven role, I

628
00:33:40,787 --> 00:33:44,867
Speaker 12: thought town of Boyd looks better, almost like playing in

629
00:33:44,947 --> 00:33:47,907
Speaker 12: number six. He starts to run the ball a bit

630
00:33:47,947 --> 00:33:51,187
Speaker 12: more and it really does seem to open up the attack.

631
00:33:51,747 --> 00:33:53,667
Speaker 12: I don't know whether it's the pressure of having that

632
00:33:53,747 --> 00:33:57,987
Speaker 12: number seven on his back. I mean, yeah, to me, yeah,

633
00:33:58,027 --> 00:34:01,227
Speaker 12: I believe that, Yeah, Martin, that was someone else taking

634
00:34:01,227 --> 00:34:04,267
Speaker 12: that number seven type role on the field is quite

635
00:34:04,307 --> 00:34:07,467
Speaker 12: crucial to their attack. But I think I think they

636
00:34:07,507 --> 00:34:09,827
Speaker 12: can be any team in this competition still. I mean,

637
00:34:10,267 --> 00:34:15,227
Speaker 12: to me, this year has really shown the resolve. And

638
00:34:15,267 --> 00:34:18,267
Speaker 12: I know that resilience has used a lot in sport

639
00:34:18,347 --> 00:34:20,587
Speaker 12: and life these days. But you know the fact that

640
00:34:20,627 --> 00:34:24,987
Speaker 12: their points differential is just about zero or you know,

641
00:34:25,107 --> 00:34:28,507
Speaker 12: not very high, shows that they really do stick in

642
00:34:28,587 --> 00:34:31,947
Speaker 12: games and win games. I mean, in decades gone by,

643
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Speaker 12: there hasn't been a season that's gone by where there's

644
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Speaker 12: been a few games where they get completely blown out,

645
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Speaker 12: but this team doesn't do that. They stay in the game,

646
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Speaker 12: and we saw last night they stayed right in the

647
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Speaker 12: game up up until the end of it. And I mean,

648
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Speaker 12: they're probably unlucky to get a couple of long range

649
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Speaker 12: tries to start the game which put them behind the April,

650
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Speaker 12: but they never give up. And that paramedicide was a

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Speaker 12: pretty good side with Mitchell made.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, they're not the worst team, and they'll

653
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Speaker 3: they'll probably look back at this season and wonder why

654
00:35:00,667 --> 00:35:04,147
Speaker 3: they're not, you know, doing better than they are. And again, Marke,

655
00:35:04,147 --> 00:35:06,467
Speaker 3: it's a demonstration, right, it's not just the Warriors, but

656
00:35:06,547 --> 00:35:09,307
Speaker 3: a lot of teams on their day can beat a

657
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Speaker 3: lot of teams. And I guess that also gives you

658
00:35:11,587 --> 00:35:13,907
Speaker 3: a hope for the Warriors in a roundabout way. And

659
00:35:13,947 --> 00:35:16,467
Speaker 3: that look, I'm not saying that the Broncos and the

660
00:35:16,467 --> 00:35:19,547
Speaker 3: Sharks are going to lose their remaining two games, but

661
00:35:20,507 --> 00:35:24,187
Speaker 3: nothing is really certain and there's still a bit of

662
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Speaker 3: water to flow under the bridge before the top four

663
00:35:26,707 --> 00:35:29,027
Speaker 3: are actually decided. And I agree on to Marte Martin.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was excellent when he came on, and

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Speaker 3: who knows he may be a candidate for that for

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Speaker 3: that number seven. Jersey moving forward, good to chat you may.

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Speaker 3: I got to get to a couple more calls before

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Speaker 3: I do. Piney Ossie unconscious bias. Absolutely when it comes

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Speaker 3: to the Warriors and Finals. We've seen it ear after year.

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Speaker 3: Come on, Pidy, get your head out of the sand,

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Speaker 3: says this unnamed text. Appreciate it, Zaana mate.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Gray Uh.

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Speaker 13: While I have some sympathy for what Lyle said, I

674
00:36:00,787 --> 00:36:03,067
Speaker 13: just think that's a too simplistic outlook on.

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Speaker 9: Top level sport internisia, the top level club sport.

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Speaker 13: Because yeah, I think, as coach speak, you don't want

677
00:36:12,827 --> 00:36:16,027
Speaker 13: your players to think that's the only reason they lost.

678
00:36:16,107 --> 00:36:18,587
Speaker 13: You want them to be able to look and dig

679
00:36:18,587 --> 00:36:21,387
Speaker 13: in deeper to how the game went so that they

680
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Speaker 13: can try and rectify those things, you know, for the

681
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Speaker 13: next game. But let's also be real, we all know

682
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Speaker 13: that incorrect refereeing or in this case, bunked decisions do

683
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Speaker 13: cost teams games.

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Speaker 14: It's true.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I was thinking of an analogy and the

686
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Speaker 13: first one that always comes to mind is nineteen eighty

687
00:36:43,627 --> 00:36:48,267
Speaker 13: seven in Melbourne, Denny Morrison, plum lbw or Craig McDermott.

688
00:36:48,947 --> 00:36:53,227
Speaker 13: If that decision is given, which only an idiot, cheating

689
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Speaker 13: scumbag Australian umpire wouldn't give, that would have been a

690
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Speaker 13: drawn series and we retain the Transpaisman Trophy. And I'll

691
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Speaker 13: never ever, ever in my life to give the cheating

692
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Speaker 13: of the scumbag umpire that that didn't give.

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Speaker 15: They didn't give.

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Speaker 14: Mccerm it out, so I know, I know, So it's

695
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Speaker 14: not it's you know, it is coach speak to say, oh,

696
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Speaker 14: you know, we should never have been in that position,

697
00:37:19,107 --> 00:37:21,387
Speaker 14: because I get it, you know what you're seeing, to just.

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Speaker 13: Be blaming the referee and not have a looking at

699
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Speaker 13: their whole eighty minute performance. But look, it's going to

700
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Speaker 13: happen one day where a bunker call is going to

701
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Speaker 13: cost a Grand Final and all hell will break loose.

702
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Speaker 13: And I take your point why that you're on the

703
00:37:35,827 --> 00:37:39,067
Speaker 13: money mate. You know, if they've they've obviously got the

704
00:37:39,187 --> 00:37:43,307
Speaker 13: cameras at the game that's able to have these super

705
00:37:43,387 --> 00:37:47,467
Speaker 13: secret angles that for some bloody reason, only the bunkers

706
00:37:47,467 --> 00:37:50,147
Speaker 13: are allowed to see and not us fans that are

707
00:37:50,227 --> 00:37:53,667
Speaker 13: paying the wages of the media company and the players

708
00:37:54,027 --> 00:37:57,987
Speaker 13: through our you know, through our TV channel subscriptions and

709
00:37:58,027 --> 00:38:01,027
Speaker 13: all the merchandise we buy and all that we deserve

710
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Speaker 13: to see these super secret angles. Yeah, and that's what

711
00:38:07,907 --> 00:38:12,267
Speaker 13: the NRL have to you know, That's what the NRL

712
00:38:12,347 --> 00:38:14,747
Speaker 13: have to answer for. That's the answer I want to

713
00:38:14,787 --> 00:38:18,907
Speaker 13: hear early next week. But apparently now they don't explain

714
00:38:19,147 --> 00:38:22,147
Speaker 13: referring decisions anymore. I think they've knocked out on the head,

715
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Speaker 13: which I think is a shame.

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Speaker 14: Look, mate, And while I'm.

717
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Speaker 13: Peede off the bat last night because to me, that's

718
00:38:28,347 --> 00:38:30,067
Speaker 13: a try and we win the game and we're in

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Speaker 13: the top four, I still don't think. I still think

720
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Speaker 13: the Warriors have a little bit to offer. I do

721
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Speaker 13: think Timari Martin has to be in there and looks

722
00:38:38,267 --> 00:38:41,507
Speaker 13: maybe a bit controversial, but I think he's in better

723
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Speaker 13: form than Chanel Harris Devita. I really think he is.

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Speaker 13: I think him with a combination of Tinn of Boyd.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I don't think. I don't think Tonn of

726
00:38:50,987 --> 00:38:53,427
Speaker 13: Boyd is that creative, but he does well enough, and

727
00:38:53,467 --> 00:38:56,467
Speaker 13: he's got a great boot and a long kicking game

728
00:38:57,027 --> 00:38:59,067
Speaker 13: is going to be vital in the finals.

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Speaker 11: So you know, I would just.

730
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Speaker 13: Simply replace Chanohanna's Tavita with Tamary Martin. Tom Martin would

731
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Speaker 13: be starting in the game for me. For me, that's

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Speaker 13: a no brainer.

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Speaker 9: But we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: You will great to chat, saying, yeah, just on that

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Speaker 3: LBW Dick French it was And just as you've been talking,

736
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Speaker 3: I just brought up an article that I remember, and

737
00:39:17,107 --> 00:39:20,427
Speaker 3: he stands by his decision. He stands by it, and

738
00:39:20,427 --> 00:39:22,347
Speaker 3: he says, I'm going to read this to you. I

739
00:39:22,347 --> 00:39:24,947
Speaker 3: thought the ball jagged just a bit to the leg's side.

740
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Speaker 3: I thought, gosh, almighty, this is close. I've got no

741
00:39:27,987 --> 00:39:31,347
Speaker 3: option here but to give him not out. Oh my goodness.

742
00:39:31,467 --> 00:39:34,507
Speaker 3: Danny Morrison said, look, it's missing leg, it's missing off,

743
00:39:34,627 --> 00:39:37,227
Speaker 3: it's hitting middle half way up. Dr Res would have

744
00:39:37,267 --> 00:39:40,147
Speaker 3: given that out in the heartbeat, but Dick French is

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Speaker 3: standing by his call. Good to chat, Dane, Thanks zaying,

746
00:39:43,347 --> 00:39:46,027
Speaker 3: thanks mate. Point of regarding the Warriors game last night,

747
00:39:46,227 --> 00:39:48,867
Speaker 3: is the TMO actually at the ground or is he

748
00:39:48,947 --> 00:39:52,747
Speaker 3: she the bunker tucked away in a studio somewhere in

749
00:39:52,787 --> 00:39:55,347
Speaker 3: Sidney or Melbourne? Asks Renton, Yeah, they're not at the ground.

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Speaker 3: The bunker is, as it suggests, a bunker with a

751
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Speaker 3: whole bunch of cameras based in Australia somewhere presumably New

752
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Speaker 3: South Wales, and I don't think that matters. You'll have

753
00:40:05,107 --> 00:40:07,747
Speaker 3: to be at the ground to look at the screens.

754
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Speaker 3: But the point was made earlier, and I've heard it

755
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Speaker 3: made that the Bunker and was at Cooper Kronk. Someone

756
00:40:14,347 --> 00:40:16,587
Speaker 3: said Cooper Kronk made the point last night and it's

757
00:40:16,627 --> 00:40:20,547
Speaker 3: been made many times. The Bunker Sea angles we don't.

758
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Speaker 3: My question is why do they? Why do they? If

759
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Speaker 3: we saw the if we saw an angle which unequivocally

760
00:40:27,187 --> 00:40:30,987
Speaker 3: showed by among knocking that ball on last night, then

761
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Speaker 3: I would have had to come up with some different

762
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Speaker 3: conversation topics today. Why wouldn't they show us If there's

763
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Speaker 3: an unequivocal angle showing a knock on, why shouldn't we

764
00:40:40,147 --> 00:40:42,027
Speaker 3: the fans see it? If the Bunker can see it,

765
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Speaker 3: why can't we. Seven to one US talks.

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Speaker 4: eNB analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting

767
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Speaker 4: world weekends for it with Jason Pine Call eight News

768
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Speaker 4: talks eNB.

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Speaker 3: Four to one. Tony says, the Warrior's player said he

770
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Speaker 3: touched the ball. It was a knock on, No, Tony.

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Speaker 5: What he said was this, Yeah, I did such a

772
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Speaker 5: I thought I was facing my own ballline and thought

773
00:41:03,867 --> 00:41:04,587
Speaker 5: it was knock back.

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Speaker 3: So I'm touching it isn't in question, it's whether it

775
00:41:06,987 --> 00:41:09,347
Speaker 3: went ford or not. Fraud out and out fraud says

776
00:41:09,347 --> 00:41:13,987
Speaker 3: this text. I can't call I'm too angry. Oh the Warriors,

777
00:41:13,987 --> 00:41:16,187
Speaker 3: they take us on a roller coaster, don't they? They do.

778
00:41:16,387 --> 00:41:18,627
Speaker 3: They take us on an absolute roller coaster. They play

779
00:41:18,667 --> 00:41:21,427
Speaker 3: mainly on Friday night in their final regular season game

780
00:41:21,827 --> 00:41:24,987
Speaker 3: till next Sunday to find out whether they're fourth, fifth

781
00:41:25,427 --> 00:41:29,547
Speaker 3: or sixth. After one across the rugby springbox legend Brighton

782
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Speaker 3: Pulser After the News.

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Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

784
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Speaker 1: on and after fields.

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Speaker 4: Weekends Forward with Jason Vane on your home of sports,

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Speaker 4: New York.

788
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Speaker 3: News Talks. He been weekeed Sport. Welcome back into It,

789
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Speaker 3: Welcome to It, one o seven. I'm Jason Pine. Andy

790
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Speaker 3: McDonald's producing the show. We are here with you until

791
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Speaker 3: three o'clock. Just a bit of a residual mop up

792
00:41:56,747 --> 00:41:59,467
Speaker 3: from the chat last Arab But the Warriors in terms

793
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Speaker 3: of the games of interest still to come this weekend.

794
00:42:03,467 --> 00:42:06,747
Speaker 3: The two chasers are the Broncos and the Sharks. The

795
00:42:06,747 --> 00:42:10,467
Speaker 3: Broncos play the Cowboys tonight in Townsville, should win that.

796
00:42:11,427 --> 00:42:18,027
Speaker 3: The Sharks host the Knights Andy McDonald's Hapless Nights tomorrow

797
00:42:19,107 --> 00:42:21,787
Speaker 3: at Shark Park. Are your team any chance? I mean,

798
00:42:21,827 --> 00:42:24,467
Speaker 3: are they any chance of winning a game? Even entertaining

799
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Speaker 3: that notion? Jason Wowee. Oh, the Warriors might still finish top.

800
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Speaker 3: They will not. The Knights are playing the Sharks. What's

801
00:42:35,187 --> 00:42:38,187
Speaker 3: happened to the Knights? Man? They could still finish bottom, mate,

802
00:42:39,227 --> 00:42:42,387
Speaker 3: Yeah they could. It's hard to know, you know.

803
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Speaker 16: The Knights, I believe, had the going into the season,

804
00:42:44,867 --> 00:42:50,827
Speaker 16: had the the fourth longest NRL finals streak of making

805
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Speaker 16: years making the finals in the NRL.

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Speaker 3: It was only two years in a row. But that's

807
00:42:54,947 --> 00:42:57,787
Speaker 3: how that shows the how level the.

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Speaker 16: Competition is that Okay, I don't know, I'd say injuries that,

809
00:43:01,707 --> 00:43:03,987
Speaker 16: I could say anything, but everyone has those, so.

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00:43:05,747 --> 00:43:08,067
Speaker 3: They're not real good ey, No, not good. So we

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Speaker 3: can't really rely on the Knights to beat the Sharks tomorrow.

812
00:43:10,507 --> 00:43:12,307
Speaker 3: It would be a huge surprise if they did that.

813
00:43:13,067 --> 00:43:16,027
Speaker 3: So let's just say for argument's sake, that the Broncos

814
00:43:16,107 --> 00:43:20,027
Speaker 3: beat the Cowboys tonight and the Sharks beat the Knights tomorrow.

815
00:43:20,107 --> 00:43:22,307
Speaker 3: That would mean that the Warriors, the Sharks and the

816
00:43:22,307 --> 00:43:25,027
Speaker 3: Broncos would all go into the final round on the

817
00:43:25,067 --> 00:43:28,027
Speaker 3: same number of points and would make up spots four,

818
00:43:28,187 --> 00:43:31,707
Speaker 3: five and six in some order. Now, the Warriors played

819
00:43:31,747 --> 00:43:36,707
Speaker 3: Friday night against the Sea Eagles, that's away before that

820
00:43:36,787 --> 00:43:40,347
Speaker 3: Thursday night. The Broncos welcome the Storm. Now that on

821
00:43:40,427 --> 00:43:42,427
Speaker 3: the face of it is a very difficult assignment. But

822
00:43:42,467 --> 00:43:45,507
Speaker 3: then you look back at last night and the Storm

823
00:43:45,547 --> 00:43:49,507
Speaker 3: were beaten forty points to ten at home by the Roosters.

824
00:43:49,947 --> 00:43:53,307
Speaker 3: I've seen Craig Bellamy's post match He's just about exploded

825
00:43:53,547 --> 00:43:58,587
Speaker 3: with rage. Craig Bellamy, the Storm coach, I wouldn't imagine

826
00:43:58,587 --> 00:44:00,307
Speaker 3: they'd play that badly two weeks in a row. So

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Speaker 3: let's you know, let's say that the Storm could beat

828
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Speaker 3: the Broncos. The Sharks have to go to a wall

829
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Speaker 3: stadium in Sydney to take on the Bulldogs, currently third,

830
00:44:10,467 --> 00:44:14,107
Speaker 3: so they could feasibly lose that. So there is still

831
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Speaker 3: a path for the Warriors to fourth spot. They need

832
00:44:17,587 --> 00:44:19,947
Speaker 3: to beat the Sea Eagles, that is not negotiable. They

833
00:44:19,987 --> 00:44:22,867
Speaker 3: need to go to Manly and win, but if the

834
00:44:22,867 --> 00:44:25,707
Speaker 3: Storm would to beat the Broncos and the Bulldogs would

835
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Speaker 3: have beat the Sharks, then fourth place it is in

836
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Speaker 3: a trip to Canberra, who incidentally can sell up the

837
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Speaker 3: minor premiership. Now this afternoon when they take on the

838
00:44:33,867 --> 00:44:36,867
Speaker 3: Tigers in Canberra, that'll be a celebration. They can win

839
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Speaker 3: the minor premiership with a game to spare it, George says,

840
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Speaker 3: all in caps. Interestingly, does this mean the Bunker is

841
00:44:43,187 --> 00:44:46,067
Speaker 3: seeing different video than is being shown on TV and

842
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Speaker 3: to the ref on the big screen at the stadium?

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Speaker 3: Is the video we see at home made by the

844
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Speaker 3: TV studio to keep using the fans at the game happy,

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Speaker 3: while the Bunkers see something totally different chosen by themselves.

846
00:44:57,227 --> 00:44:59,987
Speaker 3: It seems even the ref doesn't see what the Bunker watches. Yeah,

847
00:44:59,987 --> 00:45:04,347
Speaker 3: that is as was discussed earlier on in the show.

848
00:45:04,947 --> 00:45:08,307
Speaker 3: That is the understanding that I've always had and they've

849
00:45:08,627 --> 00:45:12,387
Speaker 3: has always been spoken about, is that the Bunker sees

850
00:45:12,587 --> 00:45:18,467
Speaker 3: angles we don't see, and immediately and at the risk

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00:45:18,507 --> 00:45:21,547
Speaker 3: of laboring the point my opinion on that is, why

852
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Speaker 3: do they if they really wanted to remove doubt around

853
00:45:26,547 --> 00:45:29,867
Speaker 3: their decision making, why wouldn't they show us the angles

854
00:45:30,667 --> 00:45:33,387
Speaker 3: that they're using to determine the decision. It just seemed

855
00:45:33,427 --> 00:45:35,467
Speaker 3: very odd to me anyway. Maybe that's a discussion for

856
00:45:36,307 --> 00:45:39,467
Speaker 3: another day. It's eleven past one. Want to flick across

857
00:45:39,467 --> 00:45:43,187
Speaker 3: to rugby because a week from today the biggest Test

858
00:45:43,227 --> 00:45:46,747
Speaker 3: match of this year and of many years will take place.

859
00:45:46,827 --> 00:45:51,747
Speaker 3: All Blacks spring Boks Eden Park next Saturday night, five

860
00:45:51,827 --> 00:45:56,067
Speaker 3: past seven. The undefeated record which stretches back thirty one

861
00:45:56,187 --> 00:45:59,067
Speaker 3: years at that ground as well, and truly on the

862
00:45:59,067 --> 00:46:01,507
Speaker 3: line of the All Blacks far from convincing in their

863
00:46:01,547 --> 00:46:03,707
Speaker 3: first five tests of the year, the latest of which

864
00:46:04,227 --> 00:46:07,747
Speaker 3: saw them lose an Argentina for the very first time.

865
00:46:08,067 --> 00:46:10,827
Speaker 3: It's a pleasure to welcome into the show outstanding former

866
00:46:10,907 --> 00:46:16,147
Speaker 3: spring Box outside back Brighton Paulsa to two merchants.

867
00:46:17,107 --> 00:46:20,587
Speaker 17: Midias well tackled, they're well read, they're bark great.

868
00:46:20,627 --> 00:46:25,307
Speaker 3: Parsa kladi and Monty's got it came Monty Betalaiti Pita

869
00:46:28,187 --> 00:46:31,267
Speaker 3: Brighton Paulsa what a player now a highly respected rugby

870
00:46:31,387 --> 00:46:35,467
Speaker 3: commentator and analyst. Brighton, welcome into Weekend Sport here on

871
00:46:35,547 --> 00:46:38,787
Speaker 3: News Talk shd BE New Zealand, South Africa. Arrive here

872
00:46:38,827 --> 00:46:41,267
Speaker 3: in New Zealand, they're already here off the back of

873
00:46:41,347 --> 00:46:45,027
Speaker 3: a split series with the Bollabies in South Africa. Did

874
00:46:45,107 --> 00:46:46,867
Speaker 3: they do enough in that second Test for you in

875
00:46:46,947 --> 00:46:49,747
Speaker 3: Cape Town to convince you they'll be to come over

876
00:46:49,827 --> 00:46:52,107
Speaker 3: here and win one or both of these Test matches

877
00:46:52,107 --> 00:46:52,947
Speaker 3: against the All Blacks.

878
00:46:54,307 --> 00:46:56,307
Speaker 15: Yeah, Jason, I tell you what, thanks for having me.

879
00:46:56,387 --> 00:46:58,347
Speaker 15: First of all, I think it's wide open, mate.

880
00:46:58,387 --> 00:47:02,587
Speaker 17: I think the Springboks also are not at the best

881
00:47:02,747 --> 00:47:05,907
Speaker 17: place at the moment, considering you know, a couple of

882
00:47:05,947 --> 00:47:09,107
Speaker 17: months ago when obviously the world champions came into the

883
00:47:09,227 --> 00:47:13,187
Speaker 17: international season with a lot of confidence. But unfortunately, unfortunately

884
00:47:13,667 --> 00:47:15,987
Speaker 17: the Wallaby's got it right to put a little bit

885
00:47:16,027 --> 00:47:21,667
Speaker 17: of doubt into our mantra. And unfortunately, you know, some

886
00:47:21,787 --> 00:47:23,867
Speaker 17: of the stall warts who has been doing it for

887
00:47:23,987 --> 00:47:26,387
Speaker 17: Russy Erasmus haven't really come to the party.

888
00:47:26,467 --> 00:47:29,307
Speaker 15: A few injuries also instid of helping the course.

889
00:47:29,427 --> 00:47:31,467
Speaker 17: But I can tell you one thing, you know, when

890
00:47:31,547 --> 00:47:34,827
Speaker 17: the Springboks played the All Blecks and in my opinions,

891
00:47:35,387 --> 00:47:38,587
Speaker 17: the biggest rowery in modern day rugby and still is,

892
00:47:39,907 --> 00:47:42,587
Speaker 17: I think the Springboks will loft their game another one

893
00:47:42,667 --> 00:47:43,267
Speaker 17: hundred percent.

894
00:47:43,707 --> 00:47:46,627
Speaker 15: And I do, I do believe the mighty Olblecks will

895
00:47:46,667 --> 00:47:47,507
Speaker 15: certainly do it as well.

896
00:47:47,867 --> 00:47:51,027
Speaker 3: Before we move on to the series, What on earth

897
00:47:51,147 --> 00:47:52,627
Speaker 3: happened at Ellis Park?

898
00:47:53,907 --> 00:47:57,747
Speaker 15: Oh, jer let me tell you. After the game it

899
00:47:57,987 --> 00:48:01,587
Speaker 15: was like somebody is somebody has just died in the family.

900
00:48:02,267 --> 00:48:06,707
Speaker 17: It was or horrible, horrific, horrible and absolutely it was

901
00:48:06,787 --> 00:48:09,987
Speaker 17: like a scary movie that it played off. But you've

902
00:48:10,027 --> 00:48:12,947
Speaker 17: gotta give credited to the Wallabies and the way they

903
00:48:12,987 --> 00:48:15,467
Speaker 17: came out in the second half, because after eighteen minutes

904
00:48:15,507 --> 00:48:17,787
Speaker 17: the spring Boks were up and running and it was

905
00:48:17,907 --> 00:48:20,267
Speaker 17: like just another day offers for them, twenty two to

906
00:48:20,307 --> 00:48:23,307
Speaker 17: five and everybody thought that, wow, you know, another five

907
00:48:23,347 --> 00:48:24,827
Speaker 17: points and thank you very much.

908
00:48:25,267 --> 00:48:26,867
Speaker 15: But let me tell you, the Wallabies came back in

909
00:48:26,907 --> 00:48:27,427
Speaker 15: the second half.

910
00:48:27,467 --> 00:48:30,667
Speaker 17: They started to get Believe, one interesting state that I

911
00:48:31,107 --> 00:48:34,907
Speaker 17: found after that game was the box obviously tried to

912
00:48:35,067 --> 00:48:37,587
Speaker 17: play the hand of Tony Brown. They tried to, you know,

913
00:48:37,787 --> 00:48:40,547
Speaker 17: sort of get a more checking style of rugby and

914
00:48:40,667 --> 00:48:43,067
Speaker 17: try and play the Wallabies off the park. They made

915
00:48:43,107 --> 00:48:45,347
Speaker 17: something like two hundred and thirty five passes, which they

916
00:48:45,387 --> 00:48:46,667
Speaker 17: haven't done in the last ten years.

917
00:48:46,987 --> 00:48:50,387
Speaker 15: And unfortunately, the Wallabies got their second.

918
00:48:50,147 --> 00:48:51,987
Speaker 17: Win, so to speak, and they came out in the

919
00:48:52,067 --> 00:48:54,987
Speaker 17: second half and capitalize on one or two mistakes. And

920
00:48:55,467 --> 00:48:58,627
Speaker 17: let make me tell you, it was an absolute disastrous

921
00:48:58,667 --> 00:49:01,267
Speaker 17: display from the spring Box in the second half. And

922
00:49:01,947 --> 00:49:03,667
Speaker 17: thank goodness, you know, we got the win against the

923
00:49:03,707 --> 00:49:06,387
Speaker 17: Wallabies a week later, and that will certainly give the

924
00:49:06,627 --> 00:49:10,427
Speaker 17: spring Walks a little bit of confidence when they faced

925
00:49:10,507 --> 00:49:11,627
Speaker 17: the All Bicks next week.

926
00:49:11,747 --> 00:49:14,667
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about game plan then. If that wasn't

927
00:49:15,067 --> 00:49:18,147
Speaker 3: successful at Alice Park, that the Tony Brown method, do

928
00:49:18,267 --> 00:49:20,427
Speaker 3: you expect them to be more conservative and go back

929
00:49:20,467 --> 00:49:23,347
Speaker 3: to that, you know that that that forward dominated game

930
00:49:23,427 --> 00:49:25,307
Speaker 3: plan that we've come to know so well from them.

931
00:49:26,787 --> 00:49:30,427
Speaker 17: Oh yes, oh yes, because because of the Tony Brown effect,

932
00:49:30,787 --> 00:49:33,427
Speaker 17: I think, you know, lessons learned and I think Russia

933
00:49:33,427 --> 00:49:36,427
Speaker 17: will park that maybe for another couple of months before

934
00:49:36,747 --> 00:49:38,307
Speaker 17: it really goes back to that. I think we will

935
00:49:38,347 --> 00:49:40,947
Speaker 17: go back to the old traditional way, you know, the

936
00:49:41,307 --> 00:49:45,667
Speaker 17: suffocate and strangle, the bullying of the forwards in your

937
00:49:45,707 --> 00:49:48,547
Speaker 17: faces kind of play and really play a kicking game.

938
00:49:48,587 --> 00:49:50,427
Speaker 17: You know, that's been really good for us. Obviously, you've

939
00:49:50,427 --> 00:49:53,347
Speaker 17: got guys like Jess and Colby, who's good in the air.

940
00:49:53,587 --> 00:49:56,627
Speaker 17: Damien Williams such a fine and Gomozulu is doing well,

941
00:49:56,747 --> 00:50:00,227
Speaker 17: but I think for me hundred Polat again. Every time

942
00:50:00,307 --> 00:50:02,587
Speaker 17: whin there's a bit of a crisis, Russia Asthmas will

943
00:50:02,587 --> 00:50:05,187
Speaker 17: always bring back a hundred polar who gives a bit

944
00:50:05,227 --> 00:50:08,187
Speaker 17: of calmness, you know, the most fascious guy. He gives

945
00:50:08,227 --> 00:50:10,907
Speaker 17: you the three points, he gives you control of a game.

946
00:50:11,307 --> 00:50:14,227
Speaker 17: And obviously with our forwards in terms of getting physical

947
00:50:14,427 --> 00:50:17,387
Speaker 17: and and getting dominant upfront in the scrums, and and

948
00:50:17,587 --> 00:50:20,227
Speaker 17: and and and and uh, you know, the set pieces.

949
00:50:20,307 --> 00:50:22,947
Speaker 17: I think that will be the box uh going into

950
00:50:22,987 --> 00:50:25,227
Speaker 17: New Zealand. We we can't play the or Blacks any

951
00:50:25,267 --> 00:50:28,587
Speaker 17: other way then, you know, make it slow, make it messy,

952
00:50:28,827 --> 00:50:30,627
Speaker 17: and try and get under the skin.

953
00:50:30,947 --> 00:50:33,507
Speaker 3: The All Blacks. Of course it's been a big talking

954
00:50:33,547 --> 00:50:36,467
Speaker 3: point over here. Brighton lost the aerial battle and the

955
00:50:36,547 --> 00:50:39,507
Speaker 3: test matches against Argentina. Is that an area you expect

956
00:50:39,587 --> 00:50:40,707
Speaker 3: South Africa to target?

957
00:50:42,147 --> 00:50:45,147
Speaker 15: Yes, they certainly will. They certainly will. But let me

958
00:50:45,227 --> 00:50:47,027
Speaker 15: tell you you know, I'm I'm a big fan of

959
00:50:47,187 --> 00:50:47,787
Speaker 15: Will Jordan.

960
00:50:47,907 --> 00:50:51,347
Speaker 17: I just feel he reminds me of a blow called

961
00:50:51,427 --> 00:50:54,227
Speaker 17: Christian Cullen because we used to play against Christian Cullen.

962
00:50:54,307 --> 00:50:55,987
Speaker 15: Yeah, he was he was always the guy we were.

963
00:50:56,107 --> 00:50:57,827
Speaker 15: We weren't scared of the late great John A.

964
00:50:57,867 --> 00:50:58,107
Speaker 7: Lomo.

965
00:50:58,187 --> 00:51:00,107
Speaker 15: We were most scared of Christian Cullen. And I tell

966
00:51:00,147 --> 00:51:02,227
Speaker 15: you we will Jordan's got that will.

967
00:51:02,347 --> 00:51:05,187
Speaker 17: Jordan's got that same sort of attitude in same feel

968
00:51:05,267 --> 00:51:07,787
Speaker 17: for the game. For me, he's such a special player.

969
00:51:07,867 --> 00:51:11,307
Speaker 17: But do expect aerial battle. We will kick a lot

970
00:51:11,347 --> 00:51:13,067
Speaker 17: from Grant Williams number nine.

971
00:51:13,387 --> 00:51:15,907
Speaker 18: Obviously, the teams told need to be selected, but Grant

972
00:51:15,907 --> 00:51:17,987
Speaker 18: Williams has been really good with his kicking, as well

973
00:51:18,027 --> 00:51:20,267
Speaker 18: as Cobas Righter on the bench, and then the likes

974
00:51:20,267 --> 00:51:23,227
Speaker 18: of hundred Paul Art and obviously you know Damien the

975
00:51:23,427 --> 00:51:25,067
Speaker 18: Lender and Jessic Kill.

976
00:51:25,667 --> 00:51:28,667
Speaker 15: They certainly are good combo in midfield. But you know

977
00:51:28,747 --> 00:51:30,627
Speaker 15: what this one is for the taking from any kind

978
00:51:30,667 --> 00:51:31,027
Speaker 15: of team.

979
00:51:31,147 --> 00:51:34,107
Speaker 17: I mean, if I had to put my house, you know,

980
00:51:34,627 --> 00:51:36,747
Speaker 17: as a bet teammate on this game, It's hard to

981
00:51:36,787 --> 00:51:39,667
Speaker 17: tell because I just feel where both teams are. New

982
00:51:39,747 --> 00:51:42,907
Speaker 17: Zealand got the history of the Eden Park. You know

983
00:51:42,987 --> 00:51:45,187
Speaker 17: they haven't lost there for how many years? They haven't

984
00:51:45,227 --> 00:51:47,827
Speaker 17: lost in so many games, So for me, it's a

985
00:51:47,907 --> 00:51:50,027
Speaker 17: really difficult one to call. I mean, you guys are

986
00:51:50,067 --> 00:51:53,587
Speaker 17: begs against the wall. We're not faring an all cylinders.

987
00:51:53,867 --> 00:51:55,627
Speaker 17: So I would say at the moment, you know it's

988
00:51:55,907 --> 00:52:00,107
Speaker 17: weighing up to be a classical game come next week Saturday.

989
00:52:00,187 --> 00:52:03,427
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Look you've summarized it perfectly. It's a coin flip

990
00:52:03,707 --> 00:52:06,267
Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned, as well Bright and us

991
00:52:06,387 --> 00:52:08,947
Speaker 3: see COLLISEI has been cleared to travel to New Zealand.

992
00:52:08,947 --> 00:52:09,827
Speaker 3: How big a boost is that.

993
00:52:11,507 --> 00:52:13,867
Speaker 17: It's a big boss for the morale of the team.

994
00:52:13,907 --> 00:52:16,227
Speaker 17: I mean, you know, see ours presence alone. You know,

995
00:52:16,507 --> 00:52:18,987
Speaker 17: he's the kind of guy that he again, he brings

996
00:52:19,027 --> 00:52:22,267
Speaker 17: calmness to the team. He's inspiring. You know, you always

997
00:52:22,627 --> 00:52:25,787
Speaker 17: create a vibe when when when those pressure moments arise,

998
00:52:26,507 --> 00:52:30,107
Speaker 17: and he's absolutely absolutely massive. Whether he will play next

999
00:52:30,187 --> 00:52:33,467
Speaker 17: week remains to be seen because initial you know, medical

1000
00:52:33,827 --> 00:52:35,907
Speaker 17: results shown that he was going to be out for

1001
00:52:36,027 --> 00:52:41,947
Speaker 17: four weeks. But massively important for the team, massively inspirational

1002
00:52:42,067 --> 00:52:45,107
Speaker 17: for the team, and and and certainly just his presence

1003
00:52:45,147 --> 00:52:47,947
Speaker 17: although he could not he probably would not play next week,

1004
00:52:48,347 --> 00:52:51,907
Speaker 17: but he's his training and just his presence around the

1005
00:52:51,947 --> 00:52:54,867
Speaker 17: team certainly looks the team about another twenty percent.

1006
00:52:55,387 --> 00:52:57,587
Speaker 3: You were on the winning side against the All Blacks

1007
00:52:57,787 --> 00:53:02,267
Speaker 3: five times, I think ninety nine, two, four, five six

1008
00:53:03,147 --> 00:53:05,947
Speaker 3: among Were they among some of your fondest victories in

1009
00:53:05,987 --> 00:53:07,827
Speaker 3: a Spring Jersey Baiting the old Flecks?

1010
00:53:09,107 --> 00:53:11,907
Speaker 17: Absolutely absolutely, Jays, I can tell you one thing, you know,

1011
00:53:12,947 --> 00:53:15,587
Speaker 17: And it's still the same today. Once a Spring Book

1012
00:53:16,267 --> 00:53:19,067
Speaker 17: player gets the not to play his first game, you

1013
00:53:19,187 --> 00:53:21,347
Speaker 17: quickly look at the calendar to see where when are

1014
00:53:21,347 --> 00:53:22,627
Speaker 17: we gonna play the omes, you.

1015
00:53:22,627 --> 00:53:24,907
Speaker 15: Know, And it's still like that. I think the respect

1016
00:53:25,387 --> 00:53:28,507
Speaker 15: is so mutual and and it's it is in off

1017
00:53:28,587 --> 00:53:30,507
Speaker 15: the field. I think it's a wonderful.

1018
00:53:30,227 --> 00:53:32,667
Speaker 17: Rivalry has been coming on for years and it made

1019
00:53:32,707 --> 00:53:35,587
Speaker 17: that long, long continual Yeares. Teams will go through dips

1020
00:53:35,907 --> 00:53:39,307
Speaker 17: and they will go through phases with new personnel, new coaches.

1021
00:53:39,387 --> 00:53:42,307
Speaker 17: But I'm so happy that Rossie and Rasmas certainly brought

1022
00:53:42,387 --> 00:53:45,547
Speaker 17: back that rivalry, you know, and and Razer as well.

1023
00:53:45,627 --> 00:53:48,107
Speaker 17: You can see that he's really trying hard from an

1024
00:53:48,427 --> 00:53:50,747
Speaker 17: Orbits perspective to get them back on track in where

1025
00:53:50,787 --> 00:53:53,147
Speaker 17: you guys belong as is obviously number.

1026
00:53:52,907 --> 00:53:54,907
Speaker 15: One or two, you know, for for the most part.

1027
00:53:55,187 --> 00:53:58,307
Speaker 17: So for me, it's absolutely messive and always it has

1028
00:53:58,387 --> 00:54:00,787
Speaker 17: been a privilege and and those are fond memories that

1029
00:54:00,947 --> 00:54:03,507
Speaker 17: you just mentioned for me as a Springbok player, those

1030
00:54:03,507 --> 00:54:04,627
Speaker 17: are the ones that I remember.

1031
00:54:04,947 --> 00:54:07,147
Speaker 3: And you're probably against Journal Lormuse even times, and he

1032
00:54:07,227 --> 00:54:09,427
Speaker 3: never scored a He never scored a try.

1033
00:54:09,507 --> 00:54:10,227
Speaker 19: What's the secret?

1034
00:54:10,307 --> 00:54:11,187
Speaker 3: What was the secret?

1035
00:54:11,467 --> 00:54:15,987
Speaker 20: Just hang on, oh, Jason, I just normally, you know,

1036
00:54:16,387 --> 00:54:18,667
Speaker 20: most of the times you went over me, but sometimes

1037
00:54:18,707 --> 00:54:21,387
Speaker 20: when they had the opportunity to him, I just grabbed

1038
00:54:21,427 --> 00:54:22,827
Speaker 20: a leg, you know, and waited for.

1039
00:54:24,627 --> 00:54:27,307
Speaker 15: He was such a great guy. Hope the field as well. Jayson.

1040
00:54:27,347 --> 00:54:30,787
Speaker 15: I certainly have some fond memories, you know, but it's

1041
00:54:30,787 --> 00:54:32,587
Speaker 15: a wonderful step for us. But you know, he's one

1042
00:54:32,587 --> 00:54:34,907
Speaker 15: of the greatest ever to play the game, and I'm

1043
00:54:34,947 --> 00:54:37,267
Speaker 15: so happy he never put the scord again those against us.

1044
00:54:38,107 --> 00:54:40,187
Speaker 3: Brighton, we can't wait for these. We can't wait for

1045
00:54:40,267 --> 00:54:42,427
Speaker 3: these test matches in the next couple of weeks. Thank

1046
00:54:42,427 --> 00:54:44,147
Speaker 3: you so much for joining us across New Zealand to

1047
00:54:44,187 --> 00:54:45,187
Speaker 3: give us your insight.

1048
00:54:46,507 --> 00:54:48,827
Speaker 15: Thank you for having me Jason, were the best in win.

1049
00:54:50,067 --> 00:54:52,667
Speaker 3: Indeed, we just don't know who that's gonna be. Brighton,

1050
00:54:52,747 --> 00:54:55,387
Speaker 3: Thanks mate, really appreciate your time. Brighton. Paul sat out

1051
00:54:55,427 --> 00:54:57,347
Speaker 3: of South Africa. What a champion of a bloke. What

1052
00:54:57,467 --> 00:55:01,107
Speaker 3: a player he was too man so quick, but yeah,

1053
00:55:01,307 --> 00:55:05,227
Speaker 3: a great defender. That's one of the all time great

1054
00:55:05,907 --> 00:55:09,467
Speaker 3: misty A mysterious mystical stats, isn't it Joon Olong who

1055
00:55:09,507 --> 00:55:13,747
Speaker 3: never scored a try against the Springboks. Crazy. The tab

1056
00:55:13,867 --> 00:55:15,867
Speaker 3: have framed up odds for this game a week tonight

1057
00:55:15,947 --> 00:55:20,907
Speaker 3: already New Zealander dollar fifty five, South Africa two forty.

1058
00:55:21,107 --> 00:55:24,707
Speaker 3: I thought it'd be closer than that. Those odds will change,

1059
00:55:24,747 --> 00:55:27,267
Speaker 3: of course over the next seven days as teams are

1060
00:55:27,347 --> 00:55:30,307
Speaker 3: named and the weight of money comes in one while

1061
00:55:30,387 --> 00:55:31,987
Speaker 3: or the other. But if you want to get South

1062
00:55:32,027 --> 00:55:34,907
Speaker 3: Africa at two forty you can at the moment. Look,

1063
00:55:34,907 --> 00:55:36,467
Speaker 3: I'm not saying they won the game. I think the

1064
00:55:36,507 --> 00:55:38,307
Speaker 3: All Blacks will win the game, but I think the

1065
00:55:38,347 --> 00:55:40,467
Speaker 3: All Black's going to win every game they play. But

1066
00:55:40,547 --> 00:55:42,867
Speaker 3: that's the odds at the moment. Incidentally, Australia one forty

1067
00:55:42,947 --> 00:55:46,027
Speaker 3: five Argentina two seventy for the first of their two

1068
00:55:46,107 --> 00:55:49,347
Speaker 3: test matches, which is actually before the All Black South

1069
00:55:49,387 --> 00:55:52,707
Speaker 3: Africa game next Saturday. It's four thirty in the afternoon

1070
00:55:52,787 --> 00:55:56,667
Speaker 3: that game, so two thirty local time over in Australia

1071
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Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure why they've done that, but the

1072
00:56:00,467 --> 00:56:03,907
Speaker 3: Australia Argentina game is first it's being played in Townsville,

1073
00:56:05,267 --> 00:56:08,587
Speaker 3: and then all black South Africa. Just to let you know,

1074
00:56:08,667 --> 00:56:13,267
Speaker 3: we'll be broadcasting the show from the Kingslander Fine Establishment

1075
00:56:13,387 --> 00:56:17,027
Speaker 3: not far from Eden Park next Saturday afternoon between midday

1076
00:56:17,067 --> 00:56:18,507
Speaker 3: and three. If you're in the area, we'd love you

1077
00:56:18,547 --> 00:56:20,987
Speaker 3: to pop down and say today we'll have a star

1078
00:56:21,187 --> 00:56:24,547
Speaker 3: started lineup of guests from both sides of the divide,

1079
00:56:25,547 --> 00:56:28,267
Speaker 3: South Africa and New Zealand. Going to already read the

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00:56:28,747 --> 00:56:31,587
Speaker 3: vibe of the rugby public ahead of what is a massive,

1081
00:56:32,147 --> 00:56:34,947
Speaker 3: massive test match next Saturday night at Eden Park, and

1082
00:56:35,027 --> 00:56:37,747
Speaker 3: of course live commentary here on News Talks, ed Beat

1083
00:56:38,187 --> 00:56:41,907
Speaker 3: and the postgame show straight away afterwards, and then of

1084
00:56:41,947 --> 00:56:43,507
Speaker 3: course next Sunday. So look, I don't want to get

1085
00:56:43,507 --> 00:56:46,747
Speaker 3: too far ahead of ourselves. Still a week out, you're

1086
00:56:46,787 --> 00:56:50,227
Speaker 3: looking forward to next weekend, spending time in and around

1087
00:56:50,467 --> 00:56:53,387
Speaker 3: Eden Park, updating you once a live sport before we

1088
00:56:53,507 --> 00:56:57,347
Speaker 3: move on Farah Palmer carpets all over in Poka Koe.

1089
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Speaker 3: By the looks of things, Counties Manco too good for

1090
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Speaker 3: Hawks Bay sixty five fourteen. They have won that one.

1091
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Speaker 3: In PC matches afternoon. The two o'clock kickoffs Canterbury Monaw

1092
00:57:08,587 --> 00:57:11,707
Speaker 3: two and a Lungey Order Counties Manico, Tartanaki and Pokacoe.

1093
00:57:11,987 --> 00:57:13,347
Speaker 3: Going to get you to a ungy order in the

1094
00:57:13,427 --> 00:57:15,667
Speaker 3: next fifteen minutes or so. Nick Biuli is calling the

1095
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Speaker 3: game for us. He's going to set the scene when

1096
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Speaker 3: we come back though. Speaking of christ Church, christ Church

1097
00:57:20,827 --> 00:57:24,867
Speaker 3: United yesterday was selected as one of the eight teams

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Speaker 3: to participate in the inaugural running of Football's OFC Professional League.

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Speaker 3: This is a professional football league in the Oceania region

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Speaker 3: starting in January of next year. Two New Zealand teams

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00:57:38,467 --> 00:57:41,627
Speaker 3: taking part Auckland FC, the A League team and christ

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Speaker 3: Church United, who currently play in the Southern League. So

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00:57:45,187 --> 00:57:48,027
Speaker 3: what does this mean for them? How significant is it

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Speaker 3: and what are their plans for christ Church United and

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00:57:51,987 --> 00:57:54,867
Speaker 3: for professional football in the South Island. General manager of

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Speaker 3: the club is Ryan Edwards. He's with us right after

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Speaker 3: this on Weekend Sport.

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Speaker 1: One Crunch hold Engaged Weekend Sports with Jason Pain and GJ.

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Speaker 4: Gunnerhomes Zealand's ice.

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Speaker 3: Trustedoemilder News talk to Bilei one twenty six. The preferred

1111
00:58:11,427 --> 00:58:15,667
Speaker 3: eight football clubs for the inaugural OFC Professional League have

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Speaker 3: been confirmed by Oceania Football. The first ever professional football

1113
00:58:19,907 --> 00:58:21,907
Speaker 3: league in the Oceania region will kick off on the

1114
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Speaker 3: tenth of January next year. It will also serve as

1115
00:58:24,747 --> 00:58:28,067
Speaker 3: Oceannyer's qualifier for the twenty twenty nine Fee for Club

1116
00:58:28,147 --> 00:58:31,467
Speaker 3: World Cup, providing a direct pathway for the region's clubs

1117
00:58:31,827 --> 00:58:35,267
Speaker 3: onto the global stage. The clubs were chosen based on

1118
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Speaker 3: the recommendations of an independent club licensing committee. The recommendations

1119
00:58:41,107 --> 00:58:45,107
Speaker 3: have been approved by the OFC Executive Committee, they're still

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Speaker 3: subject to the final stages of the licensing and compliance

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00:58:48,947 --> 00:58:53,067
Speaker 3: process before full confirmation. The eight sides are the Buller

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00:58:53,107 --> 00:58:57,107
Speaker 3: Boys FC from Fiji, Hekkarta United FC from Papa, New Guinea,

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Speaker 3: the Solomon Kings from the Solomon Islands, Tahiti United Vandawatu FC.

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Speaker 3: South Melbourne FC representing Australia, and to New Zealand sides

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Speaker 3: A League club Auckland FC and Southern League club christ

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Speaker 3: Church United. Ryan Edwards is christ Church United general manager

1127
00:59:16,147 --> 00:59:17,827
Speaker 3: and coach of the first team. He joins us now,

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Speaker 3: congratulations on this Ryan, how big a day is this

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Speaker 3: for your club.

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Speaker 21: Oh, this is massive for us. This is excuse me me,

1131
00:59:26,227 --> 00:59:28,267
Speaker 21: thanks having me on the show. But yeah, this is

1132
00:59:29,547 --> 00:59:33,387
Speaker 21: eleven years in the making. Slaver started the academy here

1133
00:59:33,427 --> 00:59:39,027
Speaker 21: in twenty fourteen and here we are even years later

1134
00:59:39,187 --> 00:59:39,947
Speaker 21: with pro Football.

1135
00:59:40,907 --> 00:59:43,507
Speaker 3: What were the main features of your pitch to be

1136
00:59:43,627 --> 00:59:45,027
Speaker 3: involved in this new competition.

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Speaker 21: Our main pitch was collaborating with the South Island and

1138
00:59:52,187 --> 00:59:56,187
Speaker 21: creating a South Island team that unites the whole of

1139
00:59:56,227 --> 01:00:00,387
Speaker 21: the region together and a team that collaborates with the

1140
01:00:00,427 --> 01:00:04,227
Speaker 21: whole Oceania region as well. And hence our partnership with

1141
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Speaker 21: Van Noua to sc is to pathway to the Oceania region.

1142
01:00:09,547 --> 01:00:14,987
Speaker 3: How will you ensure the collaboration in South Island terms?

1143
01:00:16,347 --> 01:00:18,907
Speaker 21: Yeah, so a big thing for us is working with

1144
01:00:18,987 --> 01:00:21,187
Speaker 21: them to get with all the clubs in the South

1145
01:00:21,267 --> 01:00:23,867
Speaker 21: Island to get their ideas around what collaboration looks like

1146
01:00:23,947 --> 01:00:27,547
Speaker 21: from their perspective, as opposed to us dictating what collaboration

1147
01:00:27,627 --> 01:00:33,027
Speaker 21: looks like. So we had a zoom call with every

1148
01:00:33,067 --> 01:00:35,907
Speaker 21: club in the South Island yesterday before the announcement was

1149
01:00:35,987 --> 01:00:40,147
Speaker 21: made around what this opportunity might look like for the

1150
01:00:40,227 --> 01:00:42,787
Speaker 21: South Island. Then got their thoughts around what they would

1151
01:00:42,827 --> 01:00:44,387
Speaker 21: like to see, and we're going to continue a dialogue

1152
01:00:45,227 --> 01:00:48,227
Speaker 21: over the next next six months and then into the

1153
01:00:48,307 --> 01:00:52,067
Speaker 21: future around what this league means, what this opportunity means

1154
01:00:52,107 --> 01:00:52,787
Speaker 21: to the South Island.

1155
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Speaker 3: What do you think it could mean for the South Island.

1156
01:00:55,427 --> 01:00:57,467
Speaker 3: Are we talking about, you know, players from all of

1157
01:00:57,507 --> 01:01:01,907
Speaker 3: those clubs coming to trial to play in this new league.

1158
01:01:02,267 --> 01:01:05,987
Speaker 3: Are there wider collaboration areas possible here?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, there's so many different things that we can do

1160
01:01:09,587 --> 01:01:12,747
Speaker 21: in the space to really ignoite the football in this region.

1161
01:01:12,947 --> 01:01:17,787
Speaker 21: So from player opportunities, working with clubs to build a

1162
01:01:17,867 --> 01:01:20,707
Speaker 21: South Island team where homegrown talent in South Island can

1163
01:01:21,467 --> 01:01:23,547
Speaker 21: all come to one place and play football at the

1164
01:01:23,547 --> 01:01:28,467
Speaker 21: professional level, but also coach development opportunities, club development opportunities.

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Speaker 21: We want to do a road show and take the

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Speaker 21: team and the players and the club around the South Island. Yeah,

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Speaker 21: there's so many different things that we can do in

1168
01:01:38,747 --> 01:01:40,907
Speaker 21: the space that I think is quite exciting for the region.

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Speaker 3: Is this a step towards potential future inclusion in the

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Speaker 3: A League.

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Speaker 21: I assume we wouldn't rule that off the tables. It's

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Speaker 21: something that we've I guess not Headden for many years

1173
01:01:54,027 --> 01:01:55,987
Speaker 21: that we do want a pathway to the A League

1174
01:01:56,987 --> 01:01:59,507
Speaker 21: in the future, and now that we have the IFC

1175
01:01:59,667 --> 01:02:04,347
Speaker 21: Pro League, that's our focus. And where the A League

1176
01:02:04,427 --> 01:02:07,587
Speaker 21: is saying that there's an opportunity for us or someone

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01:02:07,627 --> 01:02:09,627
Speaker 21: else in the South on their future, I think that's

1178
01:02:09,627 --> 01:02:10,987
Speaker 21: an clearly exciting opportunity.

1179
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Speaker 19: Can you just.

1180
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Speaker 3: Clarify Ryan around the timing of this So it starts

1181
01:02:14,627 --> 01:02:18,547
Speaker 3: in January early January next year, therefore will no doubt

1182
01:02:18,627 --> 01:02:21,307
Speaker 3: run across the front of your winter pre season and

1183
01:02:21,387 --> 01:02:24,147
Speaker 3: maybe into the Winter league as well. So what are

1184
01:02:24,187 --> 01:02:26,547
Speaker 3: we talking about him? Is it two separate sides playing

1185
01:02:26,547 --> 01:02:30,027
Speaker 3: for christ Juts United, one in the OFC Professional League

1186
01:02:30,027 --> 01:02:30,867
Speaker 3: in one domestically.

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Speaker 21: Yes, that's our intention. We have to work through with

1188
01:02:33,947 --> 01:02:37,267
Speaker 21: New Zealand Football exactly how they see things working as well.

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Speaker 21: But from our perspective as the league for the Pro

1190
01:02:41,827 --> 01:02:44,347
Speaker 21: legal start in early January and then go through to

1191
01:02:44,387 --> 01:02:49,307
Speaker 21: the end of May and then we will have another

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01:02:49,347 --> 01:02:51,147
Speaker 21: team playing in the National League at the same time.

1193
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Speaker 3: How deep is the appetite for professional football on the

1194
01:02:56,147 --> 01:02:57,347
Speaker 3: South Island in your view?

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Speaker 21: That's massive. I think clubs are increasingly understanding of what

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01:03:04,707 --> 01:03:08,147
Speaker 21: professional football can bring to the country. I think you've

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01:03:08,147 --> 01:03:09,867
Speaker 21: seen with the Auckland See and how they explode on

1198
01:03:09,947 --> 01:03:11,827
Speaker 21: the scene, all the great things they are doing for

1199
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Speaker 21: the Auckland in northern region. The same with the Phoenix

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01:03:14,827 --> 01:03:19,867
Speaker 21: that it really does propel and excite players as well

1201
01:03:19,947 --> 01:03:22,307
Speaker 21: as supporters and just grows the game. So for the

1202
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Speaker 21: South ISLDS it is just an incredible opportunity. I think

1203
01:03:26,267 --> 01:03:28,867
Speaker 21: also something that I'm passionate about myself is just this

1204
01:03:29,747 --> 01:03:33,547
Speaker 21: idea of igniting our young players to see a halfway

1205
01:03:33,587 --> 01:03:35,147
Speaker 21: close to home where they don't have to leave the

1206
01:03:35,227 --> 01:03:38,507
Speaker 21: island have a shot at professional football. I think it's

1207
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Speaker 21: just an amazing powerful vehicle for growth in our young players.

1208
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've landed on such a good point because yeah,

1209
01:03:46,627 --> 01:03:49,227
Speaker 3: up till now to play professional football or to get

1210
01:03:49,267 --> 01:03:52,667
Speaker 3: into academy and academy at a professional club, yet to

1211
01:03:52,787 --> 01:03:54,907
Speaker 3: leave the island right yet had to leave the three.

1212
01:03:55,707 --> 01:03:57,787
Speaker 3: The fact that now players won't have to do that,

1213
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Speaker 3: I mean that's a huge part of this, isn't it.

1214
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Speaker 21: It's a massive part of it, and I think it

1215
01:04:02,267 --> 01:04:03,707
Speaker 21: was a big part of our bit as well as

1216
01:04:03,827 --> 01:04:06,147
Speaker 21: that the whole purpose of this league is to grow

1217
01:04:06,627 --> 01:04:09,987
Speaker 21: professional football in areas of Oceania that don't have it.

1218
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Speaker 21: And you know, as we said that this is an

1219
01:04:13,347 --> 01:04:16,227
Speaker 21: island of one point two million people and there's not

1220
01:04:16,267 --> 01:04:19,827
Speaker 21: professional football here, and there's a lot of research being

1221
01:04:19,907 --> 01:04:24,547
Speaker 21: done that the closer the pathway is to the young

1222
01:04:24,667 --> 01:04:29,267
Speaker 21: player growing and loving the game is the more day

1223
01:04:29,347 --> 01:04:32,267
Speaker 21: belief in the opportunity. And so if we have a

1224
01:04:32,307 --> 01:04:34,987
Speaker 21: professional team here in the South Island, with kids from

1225
01:04:34,987 --> 01:04:38,547
Speaker 21: around the South Island seeing the players play and being

1226
01:04:38,667 --> 01:04:43,667
Speaker 21: exposed to that, than their belief grows because it's attainable

1227
01:04:43,707 --> 01:04:43,987
Speaker 21: for them.

1228
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Speaker 3: I'm sure you've seen the comments of the Wellington Phoenix

1229
01:04:47,187 --> 01:04:51,187
Speaker 3: reacting to their own mission. They've called it nonsensical. What

1230
01:04:51,347 --> 01:04:52,507
Speaker 3: do you make of those comments?

1231
01:04:55,347 --> 01:04:59,707
Speaker 21: Yeah, well, I think their release kind of speaks for itself.

1232
01:04:59,827 --> 01:05:03,107
Speaker 21: But I think the main thing for me is congratulating

1233
01:05:03,947 --> 01:05:05,547
Speaker 21: all the teams that have made it. And I think

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01:05:06,907 --> 01:05:09,667
Speaker 21: also that for me, from what I saw of the process,

1235
01:05:09,787 --> 01:05:12,467
Speaker 21: it was I was incredily impressed by the process that

1236
01:05:12,627 --> 01:05:16,267
Speaker 21: ofc ran and Stuart Larmon and his team put together.

1237
01:05:16,347 --> 01:05:18,667
Speaker 21: I think they've got a lot of experience putting these

1238
01:05:19,707 --> 01:05:23,987
Speaker 21: betting processes together for leagues from Asia and Europe and

1239
01:05:24,867 --> 01:05:27,947
Speaker 21: it was a very objective, well won process with the

1240
01:05:27,987 --> 01:05:32,227
Speaker 21: criteria being very comprehensive and having an independent panel with

1241
01:05:32,267 --> 01:05:35,387
Speaker 21: the experts from around the globe that have no knowledge

1242
01:05:35,467 --> 01:05:39,227
Speaker 21: of the New Zealand specific context and just judging it

1243
01:05:39,307 --> 01:05:41,587
Speaker 21: on the objectivity in the facts in front of them.

1244
01:05:42,787 --> 01:05:47,627
Speaker 21: I think the process was a good one, and you know,

1245
01:05:47,707 --> 01:05:49,627
Speaker 21: we were very confident going to this set. We had

1246
01:05:49,667 --> 01:05:51,427
Speaker 21: a very good but that we could put together.

1247
01:05:51,627 --> 01:05:55,427
Speaker 3: Well justified confidence and ded So it's September next week, mate,

1248
01:05:56,307 --> 01:05:58,147
Speaker 3: that the clock sticking. What are the next four months

1249
01:05:58,147 --> 01:05:58,827
Speaker 3: is gonna look like for you?

1250
01:06:00,187 --> 01:06:03,747
Speaker 21: A lot of working, yeah, a lot to get done.

1251
01:06:03,747 --> 01:06:06,267
Speaker 21: It's gonna be crazy. It's such a short time frame

1252
01:06:06,667 --> 01:06:09,547
Speaker 21: to get everything together, and I think obviously ever now

1253
01:06:09,907 --> 01:06:11,987
Speaker 21: have acknowledged that from the get go that this is

1254
01:06:12,427 --> 01:06:15,307
Speaker 21: a very tight time frame. One year to get everything

1255
01:06:16,747 --> 01:06:18,547
Speaker 21: up and running, six months to get your submissions to

1256
01:06:18,587 --> 01:06:22,667
Speaker 21: get in, then four months to launch into pro football

1257
01:06:23,387 --> 01:06:26,107
Speaker 21: is incredibly short time frame. So it's gonna be a

1258
01:06:26,107 --> 01:06:27,707
Speaker 21: fun journey indeed.

1259
01:06:27,867 --> 01:06:31,827
Speaker 3: Well, congratulations on this milestone, very special day for christ

1260
01:06:31,867 --> 01:06:34,147
Speaker 3: Chich United and for football in the South Island. Ryan,

1261
01:06:34,467 --> 01:06:35,947
Speaker 3: all the best for the next four months, mate. I

1262
01:06:36,067 --> 01:06:37,507
Speaker 3: can't wait to see how it plays out when you

1263
01:06:37,547 --> 01:06:39,147
Speaker 3: get underway in early January.

1264
01:06:39,747 --> 01:06:41,907
Speaker 21: Appreciate it, puney cheers mate, No, thank you, mate.

1265
01:06:41,747 --> 01:06:46,267
Speaker 3: Ryan Edwards, Christchich United general manager and first team head coach.

1266
01:06:46,347 --> 01:06:49,907
Speaker 3: So Christchich United and Auckland FC, two of the eighth

1267
01:06:49,987 --> 01:06:54,347
Speaker 3: clubs that will take part. I alluded there to a

1268
01:06:55,067 --> 01:06:58,747
Speaker 3: reaction from Wellington Phoenix at their own mission. I just

1269
01:06:58,827 --> 01:07:01,267
Speaker 3: want to read from the statement that they put out

1270
01:07:01,347 --> 01:07:06,907
Speaker 3: shortly after the eight sides were announced yesterday, statement on

1271
01:07:07,027 --> 01:07:11,107
Speaker 3: OFC Pro League licensing decision. It says the Wellington Phoenix

1272
01:07:11,227 --> 01:07:15,787
Speaker 3: are immensely disappointed to have not been selected for participation

1273
01:07:15,907 --> 01:07:19,067
Speaker 3: in the OFC Professional League in twenty twenty six. The

1274
01:07:19,147 --> 01:07:21,987
Speaker 3: Phoenix were informed this afternoon that while their submission met

1275
01:07:22,027 --> 01:07:26,947
Speaker 3: the minimum licensing requirements, it received a lower score than

1276
01:07:26,987 --> 01:07:30,147
Speaker 3: Auckland FC and christ Church United. The statement goes on

1277
01:07:30,227 --> 01:07:32,507
Speaker 3: to say, given that the Phoenix is the largest professional

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01:07:32,547 --> 01:07:36,507
Speaker 3: football club in Oceania, the club is digesting OFC's decision

1279
01:07:36,867 --> 01:07:40,107
Speaker 3: and is seeking further information as to how both Auckland

1280
01:07:40,507 --> 01:07:43,947
Speaker 3: and christ Church received higher scores. Then it quotes Phoenix

1281
01:07:44,027 --> 01:07:47,427
Speaker 3: general manager David Dome as saying how the Phoenix, as

1282
01:07:47,507 --> 01:07:50,787
Speaker 3: the only professional club in Oceanny for over fifteen years,

1283
01:07:51,147 --> 01:07:54,227
Speaker 3: could not be included in the first OFC Pro League

1284
01:07:54,707 --> 01:07:59,387
Speaker 3: is nonsensical, says the quote, we are considering a judicial

1285
01:07:59,467 --> 01:08:02,787
Speaker 3: review of the process and how the licensing decision has

1286
01:08:02,907 --> 01:08:05,147
Speaker 3: been made, and then it says the club won't be

1287
01:08:05,227 --> 01:08:07,387
Speaker 3: making any further comment this time, which is why we

1288
01:08:07,467 --> 01:08:12,027
Speaker 3: can't get comment from them on this issue. Since that

1289
01:08:12,147 --> 01:08:14,987
Speaker 3: statement was released, I can tell you that the reaction

1290
01:08:15,227 --> 01:08:21,387
Speaker 3: to it has been less than favorable. I think in

1291
01:08:21,467 --> 01:08:25,107
Speaker 3: the view of many people in the football community, the

1292
01:08:25,187 --> 01:08:31,107
Speaker 3: Phoenix's reaction to their own mission has been considered a

1293
01:08:31,187 --> 01:08:36,227
Speaker 3: little bit petulant and comes across as being rather entitled.

1294
01:08:36,747 --> 01:08:38,907
Speaker 3: That's the kind of the vibe that I'm getting from

1295
01:08:39,547 --> 01:08:46,067
Speaker 3: people who have seen this. As Ryan mentioned, they applied

1296
01:08:46,267 --> 01:08:51,987
Speaker 3: for inclusion in this league and all applications were considered

1297
01:08:53,147 --> 01:08:58,627
Speaker 3: by an independent club licensing committee. All of the bids

1298
01:08:58,667 --> 01:09:02,547
Speaker 3: were scored on a range of criteria and at the

1299
01:09:02,627 --> 01:09:05,947
Speaker 3: end of that Auckland FC and christ Church United had

1300
01:09:06,027 --> 01:09:12,907
Speaker 3: higher scores than Wellington. Now that's just the broad empirical

1301
01:09:13,107 --> 01:09:16,787
Speaker 3: data level of this. There's clearly other things a play here,

1302
01:09:17,427 --> 01:09:21,067
Speaker 3: and the Phoenix are right I think to question their exclusion,

1303
01:09:21,747 --> 01:09:25,947
Speaker 3: but I think what it has done is diluted what

1304
01:09:26,067 --> 01:09:28,667
Speaker 3: is a very special day for christ Church United and

1305
01:09:28,747 --> 01:09:32,387
Speaker 3: a very special day for a professional footballing pathway in

1306
01:09:32,507 --> 01:09:35,347
Speaker 3: the South Island which up till now has not been there.

1307
01:09:35,867 --> 01:09:39,347
Speaker 3: Anyone who had professional aspirations and lived in the South

1308
01:09:39,427 --> 01:09:43,227
Speaker 3: Island had to move if they were to continue down

1309
01:09:43,267 --> 01:09:46,387
Speaker 3: that path. Now they won't have to, certainly not out

1310
01:09:46,387 --> 01:09:48,547
Speaker 3: of the South Island. Anyway. There's more to come on this,

1311
01:09:48,627 --> 01:09:50,227
Speaker 3: and we don't have time to get into it today,

1312
01:09:51,187 --> 01:09:56,067
Speaker 3: but suffice to say that I'm not sure Wellington Phoenix

1313
01:09:56,187 --> 01:10:01,267
Speaker 3: have covered themselves in glory with their reaction to this.

1314
01:10:01,987 --> 01:10:04,547
Speaker 3: I think it would have been a lot more noble

1315
01:10:05,267 --> 01:10:10,067
Speaker 3: and showed humility if they had at least congratulated the

1316
01:10:10,147 --> 01:10:13,827
Speaker 3: two successful applicants. Anyway, there'll be more to come on

1317
01:10:13,947 --> 01:10:18,307
Speaker 3: this twenty two away from two weekends for it weekend

1318
01:10:18,307 --> 01:10:21,667
Speaker 3: Sport on News Talk ZB we're speaking of christ Church

1319
01:10:21,747 --> 01:10:23,667
Speaker 3: Round five of the Bunnings MPC under Way Bay of

1320
01:10:23,707 --> 01:10:25,867
Speaker 3: plenty moving to the top four again last night nineteen

1321
01:10:25,907 --> 01:10:29,467
Speaker 3: seven winners over North Harbor leaders Canterbury welcome eighth place

1322
01:10:29,587 --> 01:10:32,147
Speaker 3: one of work two to Rangy Order five past two.

1323
01:10:32,547 --> 01:10:35,987
Speaker 3: Full commentary on Goldsport and iHeartRadio match commentator Nick Beuley

1324
01:10:36,067 --> 01:10:38,387
Speaker 3: is whether you can near the ambiance at the rung

1325
01:10:38,427 --> 01:10:41,147
Speaker 3: Eura showground over? What's the venue like? Mate? How's your weather?

1326
01:10:41,267 --> 01:10:43,947
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Good afternoon to you, pidy.

1327
01:10:44,427 --> 01:10:46,867
Speaker 19: It is a glorious day out here in Orangiura.

1328
01:10:47,307 --> 01:10:50,387
Speaker 22: Just the light breeze coming through from the northern end

1329
01:10:50,427 --> 01:10:53,627
Speaker 22: of the Ashley End, but it is all in readiness.

1330
01:10:53,667 --> 01:10:55,907
Speaker 22: The ground is in fantastic shape. We've just had the

1331
01:10:56,867 --> 01:10:59,547
Speaker 22: curtain rays of the south Bridge Shield which is contested

1332
01:10:59,587 --> 01:11:03,027
Speaker 22: between North Canterbury and al Smere, and North Canterbury have

1333
01:11:03,147 --> 01:11:05,507
Speaker 22: taken that out. It is really one of the great

1334
01:11:05,587 --> 01:11:08,467
Speaker 22: days on the preval calendar, certainly in this part of

1335
01:11:08,867 --> 01:11:11,027
Speaker 22: the country. Canterbury have been coming here now. This is

1336
01:11:11,067 --> 01:11:14,227
Speaker 22: their third consecutive year. They were tipped up by Wellington

1337
01:11:14,307 --> 01:11:16,187
Speaker 22: last year. They had went over Totannaku back in twenty

1338
01:11:16,267 --> 01:11:18,507
Speaker 22: twenty three. But they get the best part of five

1339
01:11:18,587 --> 01:11:22,387
Speaker 22: or six thousand people in attendance Spiney, which really is

1340
01:11:22,867 --> 01:11:25,067
Speaker 22: quite a big number considering that the crowds they do

1341
01:11:25,227 --> 01:11:28,707
Speaker 22: get in town so these days. But looks it should

1342
01:11:28,707 --> 01:11:30,707
Speaker 22: be a fantastic occasion and a couple of teams that

1343
01:11:30,787 --> 01:11:32,867
Speaker 22: are in a little bit of form. Canterbury of course,

1344
01:11:32,907 --> 01:11:35,987
Speaker 22: the only unbeaten team left and the Buddings NBC entering

1345
01:11:36,107 --> 01:11:39,787
Speaker 22: round five and one or two tipping up your Wellington Lions.

1346
01:11:39,987 --> 01:11:44,387
Speaker 3: They did, indeed, So given that backdrop, are Canterbury any chance? Today?

1347
01:11:45,867 --> 01:11:46,667
Speaker 19: Here we go again?

1348
01:11:47,427 --> 01:11:47,467
Speaker 23: No?

1349
01:11:47,747 --> 01:11:50,547
Speaker 22: Look, I think it's going to be really entertaining contest

1350
01:11:50,587 --> 01:11:52,467
Speaker 22: and I don't think Canterbury would be taking one or

1351
01:11:52,507 --> 01:11:54,827
Speaker 22: two lightly and all we have just heard news in

1352
01:11:54,867 --> 01:11:58,107
Speaker 22: the last ten or fifteen minutes. Unfortunately for the Turbo's

1353
01:11:58,187 --> 01:12:01,907
Speaker 22: faithful Nanni Lol, Marpe is a late withdrawal. I thought

1354
01:12:01,947 --> 01:12:05,427
Speaker 22: he was fantastic last week against Wellington. And no Bret

1355
01:12:05,507 --> 01:12:08,627
Speaker 22: Cameron either, who really stared the ship nicely for man

1356
01:12:08,787 --> 01:12:10,827
Speaker 22: or two from the first five eighth position. So a

1357
01:12:10,947 --> 01:12:13,427
Speaker 22: little bit under strength in the back line, but when

1358
01:12:13,467 --> 01:12:17,027
Speaker 22: they've got players like TK Howden and Branden, you'reso there

1359
01:12:17,067 --> 01:12:21,267
Speaker 22: in the loosword trio Jordie vollioin at halfback. There's a

1360
01:12:21,307 --> 01:12:23,867
Speaker 22: lot of excitement in this month or two team. But

1361
01:12:24,747 --> 01:12:27,987
Speaker 22: stylistically it'll be quite interesting to see Canterbury, who have

1362
01:12:28,147 --> 01:12:31,507
Speaker 22: really just knuckled down defensively so far in this first

1363
01:12:31,987 --> 01:12:34,827
Speaker 22: four rounds of the NPC. They've only conceded forty four

1364
01:12:34,907 --> 01:12:39,307
Speaker 22: points across the four games, seven against Hawks Bay, seven

1365
01:12:39,307 --> 01:12:42,987
Speaker 22: against Bay of Plenty most recently. So look, it could

1366
01:12:43,027 --> 01:12:46,707
Speaker 22: be two different ways of playing the game this afternoon,

1367
01:12:46,747 --> 01:12:50,347
Speaker 22: but as I say, it's in terms of conditions and

1368
01:12:51,187 --> 01:12:53,427
Speaker 22: the occasion, it's all set up really nicely.

1369
01:12:53,827 --> 01:12:56,507
Speaker 3: Indeed, and look I'm being facetious obviously, because three of

1370
01:12:56,547 --> 01:12:58,827
Speaker 3: those four wins for Cannabury as well have been away

1371
01:12:58,867 --> 01:13:01,387
Speaker 3: from home. They went to Pottydoa and beat Wellington, They

1372
01:13:01,467 --> 01:13:04,067
Speaker 3: went up to Todonga and beat Bay of Plenty, they

1373
01:13:04,267 --> 01:13:07,187
Speaker 3: went away to Napier and beat Hawk's Bay and then

1374
01:13:07,227 --> 01:13:09,067
Speaker 3: had that one of course, and amongst all of that

1375
01:13:09,467 --> 01:13:13,547
Speaker 3: at home against and admittedly out of sorts Auckland side.

1376
01:13:14,027 --> 01:13:17,507
Speaker 3: I look at the lineups and look, anytime that a

1377
01:13:17,627 --> 01:13:21,307
Speaker 3: team can port out a midfield that contains Dallas McLoud

1378
01:13:21,347 --> 01:13:23,187
Speaker 3: and Brandon in Or You're fairly handy, aren't you.

1379
01:13:24,467 --> 01:13:29,347
Speaker 22: Yeah, there's a lot of experience both provincial Super rugby

1380
01:13:29,427 --> 01:13:31,267
Speaker 22: and even as you alluded to there with McLoud and

1381
01:13:31,387 --> 01:13:33,507
Speaker 22: Enaw they've gone all the way in terms of All

1382
01:13:33,547 --> 01:13:37,187
Speaker 22: Blacks pedigree. Then you've got Johnny McNichol himself a former

1383
01:13:37,227 --> 01:13:40,067
Speaker 22: Welsh international, he's really winding back the clock this season

1384
01:13:40,547 --> 01:13:44,467
Speaker 22: playing at fullback. And Sam Dowry, who's as of last

1385
01:13:44,547 --> 01:13:47,467
Speaker 22: year burst onto the scene in the All Blacks environment

1386
01:13:47,587 --> 01:13:50,587
Speaker 22: and who knows could very well be in Scott Robinson's

1387
01:13:50,587 --> 01:13:54,827
Speaker 22: plans going forward with Patrick Tweypolotu suffering that facial injury

1388
01:13:54,907 --> 01:13:57,707
Speaker 22: in Argentina, so can I We do have the luxury

1389
01:13:57,867 --> 01:14:01,707
Speaker 22: of experience and then lits it in with a little

1390
01:14:01,707 --> 01:14:05,827
Speaker 22: bit of spark and youthful enthusiasm as well. Just a

1391
01:14:05,947 --> 01:14:09,427
Speaker 22: note speaking of experience today. Party doesn't happen very often

1392
01:14:09,707 --> 01:14:12,987
Speaker 22: in the MPC these days. But Ben Finell will bring

1393
01:14:13,107 --> 01:14:17,507
Speaker 22: up his one hundredth game for Canterbury this afternoon, real

1394
01:14:17,627 --> 01:14:22,547
Speaker 22: testament to his durability debut back in twenty eleven at

1395
01:14:22,587 --> 01:14:25,707
Speaker 22: an ACL injury in fact last year and has come

1396
01:14:25,827 --> 01:14:28,667
Speaker 22: back in time for this one, which will be extra

1397
01:14:28,707 --> 01:14:32,627
Speaker 22: special for Ben being from the North Canterbury area, so

1398
01:14:33,267 --> 01:14:35,987
Speaker 22: plenty of experience on show. And then conversely you look

1399
01:14:36,027 --> 01:14:37,827
Speaker 22: over to that Munch or two team, so many different

1400
01:14:38,307 --> 01:14:41,267
Speaker 22: sort of either current or ex New Zealand under twenty

1401
01:14:41,347 --> 01:14:45,947
Speaker 22: representatives are really a new era coming through under first

1402
01:14:46,027 --> 01:14:46,587
Speaker 22: year head coach.

1403
01:14:46,587 --> 01:14:47,147
Speaker 19: Where's Clark?

1404
01:14:47,547 --> 01:14:49,907
Speaker 3: Yeah it's great and i'd love provincial right, but even

1405
01:14:49,987 --> 01:14:52,107
Speaker 3: hearing as I say, the onbiance in the background there

1406
01:14:52,187 --> 01:14:55,227
Speaker 3: and imagining the fine day that you've painted the picture

1407
01:14:55,267 --> 01:14:58,027
Speaker 3: of so nicely for us. Yeah, it's said to be

1408
01:14:58,107 --> 01:15:00,747
Speaker 3: a cool afternoon. Do you have anybody assisting you in

1409
01:15:00,907 --> 01:15:02,787
Speaker 3: terms of expert comments this afternoon?

1410
01:15:03,467 --> 01:15:03,667
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1411
01:15:03,707 --> 01:15:06,147
Speaker 19: As always, We've got John Haggart back in the seat,

1412
01:15:06,347 --> 01:15:06,707
Speaker 19: am I right?

1413
01:15:06,747 --> 01:15:09,387
Speaker 22: He's just our having a listening listen in as we

1414
01:15:09,827 --> 01:15:13,387
Speaker 22: converse Piney and Craig Kerr as our sideline. I technical

1415
01:15:13,467 --> 01:15:15,507
Speaker 22: expertise as always from the great Bill Tomy.

1416
01:15:15,627 --> 01:15:17,227
Speaker 19: So now we love it.

1417
01:15:17,347 --> 01:15:20,227
Speaker 22: We love coming out to this annual fixture. We're in

1418
01:15:20,307 --> 01:15:23,107
Speaker 22: this I'm trying to set the scene into our little

1419
01:15:23,147 --> 01:15:26,427
Speaker 22: commentary booths. Poor old John Haggett was wiping away all

1420
01:15:26,507 --> 01:15:29,307
Speaker 22: the dust from this time last year, so we can

1421
01:15:29,347 --> 01:15:31,027
Speaker 22: actually see out the booth.

1422
01:15:31,507 --> 01:15:33,947
Speaker 19: We've got our sky our sky team in front of us.

1423
01:15:34,147 --> 01:15:37,427
Speaker 19: We're a little bit they're slightly in our way that

1424
01:15:37,547 --> 01:15:40,187
Speaker 19: the camera operators, but look we will make do.

1425
01:15:40,267 --> 01:15:42,227
Speaker 22: It's just great to be out here, great to be

1426
01:15:42,347 --> 01:15:46,627
Speaker 22: part of this sort of festival country vibe feel and

1427
01:15:46,747 --> 01:15:49,107
Speaker 22: to me anyway, that's what the Bunnings NBC is all about.

1428
01:15:49,387 --> 01:15:51,307
Speaker 3: Absolutely the best team on the field and the a

1429
01:15:51,587 --> 01:15:56,787
Speaker 3: team off the field. Regards to missus Kerr and Haggart

1430
01:15:56,867 --> 01:15:58,907
Speaker 3: and to me into yourself Nick, have a great call mate,

1431
01:15:59,467 --> 01:16:04,107
Speaker 3: Thanks bidy, Nick Billy, lead commentator of our Christy Rugby

1432
01:16:04,187 --> 01:16:06,787
Speaker 3: commentaries with a terrific team along side. If you're commentary

1433
01:16:06,787 --> 01:16:08,667
Speaker 3: of that game, canabry against mine or two five past

1434
01:16:08,707 --> 01:16:11,747
Speaker 3: two catch it on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio sixteen to

1435
01:16:11,827 --> 01:16:14,747
Speaker 3: two news talks there being Weekend Sports thirteen to two

1436
01:16:14,787 --> 01:16:18,187
Speaker 3: across the Tasman AUSI correspondent Adam Peacock with us, has

1437
01:16:18,227 --> 01:16:18,947
Speaker 3: your week been mate?

1438
01:16:19,347 --> 01:16:19,547
Speaker 15: Good?

1439
01:16:19,747 --> 01:16:22,107
Speaker 24: Thanks Piney. It's finally tried out over here so we

1440
01:16:22,187 --> 01:16:23,547
Speaker 24: can actually get outside again.

1441
01:16:23,907 --> 01:16:25,867
Speaker 3: Good to hear, good to hear. Well, before you get

1442
01:16:25,907 --> 01:16:28,747
Speaker 3: the chance to do that, let's talk some Australian sport.

1443
01:16:29,267 --> 01:16:32,947
Speaker 3: A League football club Western United placed into liquidation. Their

1444
01:16:33,027 --> 01:16:36,187
Speaker 3: A League license was stripped last month. That seemed to

1445
01:16:36,187 --> 01:16:38,987
Speaker 3: spell the end, but last night they announced that there's

1446
01:16:38,987 --> 01:16:42,707
Speaker 3: an application to stay the court's order. So where are

1447
01:16:42,787 --> 01:16:46,027
Speaker 3: we with Western United? Is there still life in this

1448
01:16:46,107 --> 01:16:46,787
Speaker 3: football club?

1449
01:16:47,987 --> 01:16:51,547
Speaker 24: There's a pulse, but it's very very faint. So there's

1450
01:16:51,587 --> 01:16:54,187
Speaker 24: two things happening at once. There's the court order, which

1451
01:16:55,027 --> 01:16:58,907
Speaker 24: from my understanding detains to the actual business operation being

1452
01:16:59,347 --> 01:17:03,147
Speaker 24: going concern and they've been ordered with all their debts

1453
01:17:03,227 --> 01:17:05,587
Speaker 24: to wind up, but they've got to stay on that.

1454
01:17:05,747 --> 01:17:08,187
Speaker 24: So that's one thing to one side. The other thing

1455
01:17:08,307 --> 01:17:11,347
Speaker 24: is the football matters, which Football Australia oversee whether or

1456
01:17:11,427 --> 01:17:15,107
Speaker 24: not they have the ability to have a license in

1457
01:17:15,227 --> 01:17:18,187
Speaker 24: any competition in Australia, and this one being the A

1458
01:17:18,347 --> 01:17:21,427
Speaker 24: leagues that they operate in, and that appeals being heard

1459
01:17:21,467 --> 01:17:24,347
Speaker 24: and I think that judgment comes down on September two.

1460
01:17:24,667 --> 01:17:28,507
Speaker 24: So it's all a bit of a mess in every

1461
01:17:28,547 --> 01:17:31,547
Speaker 24: way you look at it. But at the moment they're

1462
01:17:31,627 --> 01:17:35,587
Speaker 24: not dead, but the assumption is that the life support

1463
01:17:35,707 --> 01:17:37,187
Speaker 24: is about to be turned off, if you know what,

1464
01:17:37,267 --> 01:17:39,747
Speaker 24: I mean to get totally brutal about it. So yeah,

1465
01:17:40,027 --> 01:17:45,387
Speaker 24: it's not a positive sign. It's a stay. It's a okay, yeah,

1466
01:17:45,747 --> 01:17:47,827
Speaker 24: if you want to look at it as the alternative,

1467
01:17:47,867 --> 01:17:50,227
Speaker 24: it's positive. But overall, when you look at it with

1468
01:17:50,307 --> 01:17:53,267
Speaker 24: a wide lens. It just makes you shake your head.

1469
01:17:53,587 --> 01:17:55,627
Speaker 3: I think we all want, you know, the team to survive,

1470
01:17:55,707 --> 01:17:58,187
Speaker 3: the club to survive if that is possible, if that

1471
01:17:58,347 --> 01:18:00,307
Speaker 3: is viable. But the clock's ticking a little bit, doesn't it.

1472
01:18:00,387 --> 01:18:04,067
Speaker 3: It's September soon, the A League season starts in October,

1473
01:18:04,107 --> 01:18:06,267
Speaker 3: and we still don't have a drawer because we don't

1474
01:18:06,267 --> 01:18:08,067
Speaker 3: know whether there'll be twelve or thirteen teams.

1475
01:18:08,907 --> 01:18:13,107
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, there's two draws and they're ready to hit.

1476
01:18:13,147 --> 01:18:16,227
Speaker 24: Send the A Leagues on both of them. And I

1477
01:18:16,427 --> 01:18:20,307
Speaker 24: dare say that the teams would know as well. But

1478
01:18:20,507 --> 01:18:23,307
Speaker 24: for us fans it's not ideal. We kind of want

1479
01:18:23,347 --> 01:18:25,387
Speaker 24: to look at it and go, oh yeah, I'll go

1480
01:18:25,467 --> 01:18:27,867
Speaker 24: to that one. I won't book in that social occasion,

1481
01:18:27,867 --> 01:18:28,747
Speaker 24: I want to go to that one.

1482
01:18:29,067 --> 01:18:29,827
Speaker 7: Yeah important.

1483
01:18:29,947 --> 01:18:32,987
Speaker 24: It's pretty hard, I reckon if you're a commercial side

1484
01:18:32,987 --> 01:18:36,107
Speaker 24: of any A League clubs to start telling selling a

1485
01:18:36,187 --> 01:18:41,507
Speaker 24: corporate boxer, season tickets, all those things. So yeah, it's

1486
01:18:41,587 --> 01:18:43,107
Speaker 24: the way not to do it. They would like an

1487
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Speaker 24: answer this week. Absolutely, at the very latest, because it's

1488
01:18:45,667 --> 01:18:48,107
Speaker 24: getting a bit late in the data to start having

1489
01:18:48,147 --> 01:18:51,227
Speaker 24: to organize things to make sure you can maximize having

1490
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Speaker 24: those home games some.

1491
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Speaker 3: More positive football matters. We are very much looking forward

1492
01:18:55,667 --> 01:18:58,107
Speaker 3: to the home and away internationals between our All Whites

1493
01:18:58,107 --> 01:19:01,267
Speaker 3: and your soccer roose Tony Popovich, the soccer Who's coach,

1494
01:19:01,427 --> 01:19:04,587
Speaker 3: named his squad yesterday. What were the main features for

1495
01:19:04,707 --> 01:19:06,947
Speaker 3: you through.

1496
01:19:06,587 --> 01:19:10,227
Speaker 24: Is the average age. It's young, It's surprisingly young, and

1497
01:19:10,427 --> 01:19:12,747
Speaker 24: we're not Popvich has done this to have a look

1498
01:19:12,747 --> 01:19:15,867
Speaker 24: at these players, knowing that he'll take a bunch of

1499
01:19:15,947 --> 01:19:19,547
Speaker 24: more experienced guys to the World Cup and this is

1500
01:19:19,547 --> 01:19:22,067
Speaker 24: about building a bit of depth is one thing, but

1501
01:19:22,627 --> 01:19:25,507
Speaker 24: I'm excited by the prospect. The majority of these players

1502
01:19:25,507 --> 01:19:28,027
Speaker 24: behind he would have called in the A League and

1503
01:19:28,307 --> 01:19:30,827
Speaker 24: now they're playing overseas and we've got a stack of

1504
01:19:30,867 --> 01:19:34,307
Speaker 24: Australians in the Championship. We don't quite have that breakout

1505
01:19:34,347 --> 01:19:38,987
Speaker 24: player that's into the Premier League yet We've got garn

1506
01:19:39,067 --> 01:19:41,427
Speaker 24: Kuole who's not in the squad. He's just moved clubs overnight.

1507
01:19:41,507 --> 01:19:44,147
Speaker 24: So these guys are trying to organize themselves. Mark Atillier's

1508
01:19:44,187 --> 01:19:47,747
Speaker 24: move clubs recently to get game time. I think that's

1509
01:19:47,827 --> 01:19:51,187
Speaker 24: dripped into their brains that the most important thing for

1510
01:19:51,267 --> 01:19:53,347
Speaker 24: their career. Between the ages of twenty and twenty four

1511
01:19:53,507 --> 01:19:55,547
Speaker 24: is to make sure that they keep playing senior football.

1512
01:19:55,667 --> 01:19:59,147
Speaker 24: So yeah, it's exciting and it'll be be a good

1513
01:19:59,387 --> 01:20:01,147
Speaker 24: hit out. I haven't seen the all white squad. Has

1514
01:20:01,187 --> 01:20:01,907
Speaker 24: that been announced?

1515
01:20:01,987 --> 01:20:05,547
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has been, and it's really strong. It is

1516
01:20:05,667 --> 01:20:08,947
Speaker 3: basically a shadow World Cup squad. Really, there are a

1517
01:20:09,067 --> 01:20:12,707
Speaker 3: couple of names missing, but Darren Baslely, our head coach,

1518
01:20:13,187 --> 01:20:18,187
Speaker 3: has basically named the strongest possible squad he could. So look,

1519
01:20:18,387 --> 01:20:22,027
Speaker 3: I'm just so looking forward to these games. Canberra less

1520
01:20:22,067 --> 01:20:23,667
Speaker 3: than a week away now and then over here in

1521
01:20:23,707 --> 01:20:27,507
Speaker 3: Auckland the following Tuesday. Look, I think Australia a favorite,

1522
01:20:27,507 --> 01:20:29,027
Speaker 3: and you look at the squad and I've got the

1523
01:20:29,027 --> 01:20:31,467
Speaker 3: two squads up in front of me, and yes, there's

1524
01:20:31,547 --> 01:20:33,947
Speaker 3: high quality in the Australian squad, but I think you'll

1525
01:20:33,947 --> 01:20:36,387
Speaker 3: be I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the fight

1526
01:20:36,467 --> 01:20:37,387
Speaker 3: that New Zealand put up.

1527
01:20:37,427 --> 01:20:37,627
Speaker 7: Mate.

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01:20:38,267 --> 01:20:41,627
Speaker 24: No, I reckon like the caliber player that you've got,

1529
01:20:41,787 --> 01:20:44,667
Speaker 24: Like you've got a sprinkling a very very good players.

1530
01:20:44,707 --> 01:20:48,347
Speaker 24: I reckon your first eleven on paid almost would looks

1531
01:20:48,587 --> 01:20:50,947
Speaker 24: as strong, if not stronger, than whatever Popper comes up

1532
01:20:50,987 --> 01:20:53,587
Speaker 24: with in these matches. So yeah, there'll be good matches

1533
01:20:53,627 --> 01:20:57,187
Speaker 24: and hopefully the people of Canberra who don't have a

1534
01:20:57,307 --> 01:21:00,227
Speaker 24: league men's football to support, can get behind it. And

1535
01:21:00,507 --> 01:21:03,107
Speaker 24: I dare say that Audland, I'll get a good crew

1536
01:21:03,187 --> 01:21:06,307
Speaker 24: there because football and author's gone okay in the last time.

1537
01:21:06,667 --> 01:21:09,147
Speaker 3: Indeed, it does look forward to these two matches. Finally,

1538
01:21:09,187 --> 01:21:11,947
Speaker 3: the US Tennis Open. Are your man? Alex Dumano eight seed,

1539
01:21:12,507 --> 01:21:15,307
Speaker 3: He's been relatively untroubled moving into the third round. He's

1540
01:21:15,347 --> 01:21:18,827
Speaker 3: going to face unseated German Daniel Eltmeer tomorrow. He's twice

1541
01:21:18,907 --> 01:21:22,107
Speaker 3: made the quarters at Flushing Meadows. Could he go further

1542
01:21:22,627 --> 01:21:23,067
Speaker 3: this year?

1543
01:21:24,027 --> 01:21:26,787
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah he can. I didn't look at his next

1544
01:21:26,827 --> 01:21:30,107
Speaker 24: few rounds and he doesn't bump into either Ciner or Olcaraze,

1545
01:21:30,107 --> 01:21:32,067
Speaker 24: which at the moment is it's the key. You have

1546
01:21:32,107 --> 01:21:34,067
Speaker 24: a look at the men's rankings and they are miles

1547
01:21:34,147 --> 01:21:38,027
Speaker 24: in front of the third best. It's those two. Just

1548
01:21:38,307 --> 01:21:40,867
Speaker 24: you know, now you were at the stage we're rocking

1549
01:21:40,987 --> 01:21:43,547
Speaker 24: up to tournaments. He can okay, they're going to play

1550
01:21:43,547 --> 01:21:46,107
Speaker 24: in the final. Who's going to make the semi? Yeah,

1551
01:21:46,267 --> 01:21:49,707
Speaker 24: it's incredible and hopefully Damon can fill one of those spots,

1552
01:21:49,747 --> 01:21:53,907
Speaker 24: and you never know. What can happen. He's it's good

1553
01:21:53,987 --> 01:21:56,227
Speaker 24: by tournament and the lead up, and he's got that

1554
01:21:56,267 --> 01:21:58,467
Speaker 24: good drawer in the first week, which you need a

1555
01:21:58,667 --> 01:22:01,067
Speaker 24: huge roadbox. And he's taken care of business so far

1556
01:22:01,187 --> 01:22:04,467
Speaker 24: and he's got on paper an opponent he should take

1557
01:22:04,547 --> 01:22:07,027
Speaker 24: care of in the next round. So yeah, he's our

1558
01:22:07,107 --> 01:22:10,587
Speaker 24: guy at the US Open and hopefully he can have

1559
01:22:10,707 --> 01:22:11,267
Speaker 24: a deep run.

1560
01:22:11,907 --> 01:22:14,867
Speaker 3: Always appreciate your update on Australian sporting matters, Adam. Thanks

1561
01:22:14,867 --> 01:22:16,907
Speaker 3: for your time. Have great weekend. We'll check again next Saturday.

1562
01:22:17,587 --> 01:22:18,747
Speaker 24: You too, Finny, have one.

1563
01:22:18,827 --> 01:22:20,347
Speaker 3: You have a good one too, Adam Peacock Out of

1564
01:22:20,347 --> 01:22:22,867
Speaker 3: Australia seven to two News TALKSB four to two News

1565
01:22:22,867 --> 01:22:24,707
Speaker 3: at two of course, and then Caleb Clark's on the show.

1566
01:22:24,827 --> 01:22:26,427
Speaker 3: He's going to play for Wellington. No, he's not going

1567
01:22:26,507 --> 01:22:28,387
Speaker 3: to play for Auckland against Wellington tomorrow. That would have

1568
01:22:28,427 --> 01:22:30,547
Speaker 3: been a turn up. I would quite like him here actually,

1569
01:22:30,747 --> 01:22:34,107
Speaker 3: Caleb Clark after two o'clock. If he gets through tomorrow, okay,

1570
01:22:34,227 --> 01:22:36,627
Speaker 3: what chance he runs out on Eden Park for the

1571
01:22:36,627 --> 01:22:40,067
Speaker 3: All Blacks against South Africa next Saturday night. They could

1572
01:22:40,107 --> 01:22:44,307
Speaker 3: certainly use his aerial ability, couldn't they. Caleb Clark after

1573
01:22:44,387 --> 01:22:48,227
Speaker 3: two and an inspirational power athlete as well.

1574
01:22:49,747 --> 01:22:52,587
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

1575
01:22:52,747 --> 01:22:54,347
Speaker 1: on and after field.

1576
01:22:54,947 --> 01:22:56,747
Speaker 19: It's all on Weekend Sport.

1577
01:22:56,547 --> 01:22:59,867
Speaker 4: With Jason Pade on your home of Sports.

1578
01:23:00,787 --> 01:23:01,547
Speaker 19: New York.

1579
01:23:02,867 --> 01:23:06,027
Speaker 3: News TALKSB and Weekend Sport. Welcome to the show. Welcome

1580
01:23:06,067 --> 01:23:08,067
Speaker 3: back to the show if you've been with us for

1581
01:23:08,187 --> 01:23:11,347
Speaker 3: some or all of Weekends Sport Today two o seven.

1582
01:23:11,387 --> 01:23:15,307
Speaker 3: I'm Jason Pine Andy McDonald producing the show. This hour,

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Speaker 3: tab before three o'clock. Also, I get the chance to

1591
01:23:45,587 --> 01:23:50,307
Speaker 3: hear the post practice thoughts of Liam Lawson, as you

1592
01:23:50,987 --> 01:23:53,747
Speaker 3: have been hearing in our sports news across the day.

1593
01:23:53,867 --> 01:23:57,347
Speaker 3: He said, a pretty good day actually, Liam Lawson in

1594
01:23:57,467 --> 01:24:00,107
Speaker 3: practice for the Dutch Grand Prix, better times than Isaac

1595
01:24:00,147 --> 01:24:05,747
Speaker 3: Hadger in both practice sessions. So inter qualifying overnight tonight

1596
01:24:06,027 --> 01:24:08,387
Speaker 3: and then the race itself Monday morning. It's so hope

1597
01:24:08,387 --> 01:24:10,707
Speaker 3: that Liam Lawson can pick up where he left off

1598
01:24:10,787 --> 01:24:15,507
Speaker 3: before the mid season break. Also this hour, well Caleb

1599
01:24:15,547 --> 01:24:18,667
Speaker 3: Clark shortly he's going to play tomorrow in the Bunnings

1600
01:24:18,747 --> 01:24:23,427
Speaker 3: MPC when Auckland faced Wellington and Potty Doer. Provided he

1601
01:24:23,507 --> 01:24:25,507
Speaker 3: gets through that okay, and you'd have to think he's

1602
01:24:25,547 --> 01:24:28,787
Speaker 3: probably on managementutes coming back from that ankle injury. He'll

1603
01:24:28,827 --> 01:24:31,387
Speaker 3: rejoin the All Blacks in the build up to next

1604
01:24:31,427 --> 01:24:35,467
Speaker 3: weekend's Test against South Africa. And given the trials and

1605
01:24:35,507 --> 01:24:40,947
Speaker 3: tribulations of our wingers against Argentina a week ago, who

1606
01:24:41,027 --> 01:24:43,587
Speaker 3: knows Caleb Clark might be back in not only the

1607
01:24:43,627 --> 01:24:47,467
Speaker 3: All Blacks environment, but perhaps even in the starting side.

1608
01:24:48,547 --> 01:24:51,507
Speaker 3: How's he feeling about that? Caleb Clark? Shortly? Also this

1609
01:24:51,667 --> 01:24:55,707
Speaker 3: our key we Rachel Meyer is going to compete in

1610
01:24:55,787 --> 01:24:59,547
Speaker 3: the Power Climbing World Champs in Korea late next month.

1611
01:24:59,627 --> 01:25:02,747
Speaker 3: Hers is an incredible story. She's going to join us

1612
01:25:03,267 --> 01:25:05,627
Speaker 3: this Our two lines of communication open as always, Oh

1613
01:25:05,667 --> 01:25:08,547
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eight nine two ninety two if you

1614
01:25:08,587 --> 01:25:10,707
Speaker 3: would prefer to send a text, and of course we'll

1615
01:25:10,747 --> 01:25:13,387
Speaker 3: keep you updated on Live Sport two with bunning ZMPC

1616
01:25:13,587 --> 01:25:16,827
Speaker 3: action underway and along the order Cannibry have already scored

1617
01:25:16,827 --> 01:25:19,827
Speaker 3: a converted try. They lead seven nil against Manover two

1618
01:25:19,947 --> 01:25:22,707
Speaker 3: after just two and a half minutes. Scolers between Counties

1619
01:25:22,747 --> 01:25:27,827
Speaker 3: Manico and Tlanaki in Pokakoe after about the same length

1620
01:25:27,987 --> 01:25:30,827
Speaker 3: of time. But as we always do it around about

1621
01:25:30,867 --> 01:25:33,347
Speaker 3: this time on weekend Sport, as we tick past nine

1622
01:25:33,507 --> 01:25:35,947
Speaker 3: past two, time to get you up to date with

1623
01:25:36,067 --> 01:25:37,947
Speaker 3: a couple of things that might have escaped your attention

1624
01:25:38,387 --> 01:25:41,027
Speaker 3: over the last twenty four hours. In case you missed it,

1625
01:25:41,667 --> 01:25:45,987
Speaker 3: we begin in Spain and one are You Soap has

1626
01:25:46,107 --> 01:25:49,987
Speaker 3: responded to a disappointing stage yesterday to come back and

1627
01:25:50,147 --> 01:25:55,027
Speaker 3: win seventh the seventh stage on love Wilter Spanya.

1628
01:25:55,227 --> 01:25:59,547
Speaker 25: Pro victory number fifteen of his career. He won the

1629
01:25:59,587 --> 01:26:01,867
Speaker 25: ten time trial with his squad You eight team member

1630
01:26:01,907 --> 01:26:03,027
Speaker 25: at saxg.

1631
01:26:04,107 --> 01:26:06,387
Speaker 19: Geve and his teammate Whin yesterday.

1632
01:26:06,387 --> 01:26:08,707
Speaker 25: And he's just made it three victories in a row,

1633
01:26:09,107 --> 01:26:12,267
Speaker 25: his first individual victory and he's home gramsre here at the.

1634
01:26:12,307 --> 01:26:15,907
Speaker 3: Feltzer Norwegian torsed and tray and still holds the red

1635
01:26:16,027 --> 01:26:19,427
Speaker 3: Jersey ahead of Ray's favorite go nas Bingergar. In the

1636
01:26:19,707 --> 01:26:23,787
Speaker 3: NRL last night, the Roosters ran all over the top

1637
01:26:23,827 --> 01:26:26,147
Speaker 3: of the Melbourne Storm on the way to a forty

1638
01:26:26,267 --> 01:26:27,507
Speaker 3: points to ten win.

1639
01:26:29,107 --> 01:26:31,147
Speaker 26: Radley leaks up, Savalas away.

1640
01:26:31,507 --> 01:26:36,827
Speaker 19: It's on again to Disco. Seaer Tames to Disco.

1641
01:26:37,307 --> 01:26:42,867
Speaker 3: They're gonna put forty on Melbourne in one hal incredible.

1642
01:26:42,907 --> 01:26:46,667
Speaker 3: If you want some entertainments, search up Melbourne Storm boss

1643
01:26:46,707 --> 01:26:53,147
Speaker 3: Craig Bellamy's postmatch press conference. He can barely contain himself

1644
01:26:54,347 --> 01:26:56,947
Speaker 3: to the parr parmer cup. Northland playing some great rugby

1645
01:26:56,987 --> 01:26:57,707
Speaker 3: to meet North Harbor.

1646
01:27:00,507 --> 01:27:03,027
Speaker 19: They're fluid tea in the passing from the cody. They

1647
01:27:03,147 --> 01:27:05,387
Speaker 19: go from one coast to the other stones.

1648
01:27:05,627 --> 01:27:10,507
Speaker 3: Finally it's around the corner. She's been spurn up the

1649
01:27:10,667 --> 01:27:13,507
Speaker 3: fence and even better on attack and she itches her

1650
01:27:13,587 --> 01:27:16,507
Speaker 3: name boards to the score sheet and in the NPC

1651
01:27:16,707 --> 01:27:19,307
Speaker 3: Bay of plenty made it an O and two night

1652
01:27:19,467 --> 01:27:20,427
Speaker 3: for North Harbor.

1653
01:27:20,307 --> 01:27:22,987
Speaker 26: Ship the board of the Riders center field out to cashboard,

1654
01:27:23,027 --> 01:27:25,187
Speaker 26: out to Armstrong. Little Batspace now on the right edge,

1655
01:27:25,267 --> 01:27:26,507
Speaker 26: grubb her through from Armstrong.

1656
01:27:26,827 --> 01:27:28,747
Speaker 3: He's got well. I sung her on his outside.

1657
01:27:28,827 --> 01:27:31,587
Speaker 26: La Suger picks up the crab and scores the try

1658
01:27:31,867 --> 01:27:34,827
Speaker 26: and buy. Plenty are going to go nineteen seven try

1659
01:27:34,867 --> 01:27:36,067
Speaker 26: and the right hand sign.

1660
01:27:36,347 --> 01:27:37,587
Speaker 3: There's a been a push and shove.

1661
01:27:38,027 --> 01:27:39,507
Speaker 19: Referee says settled.

1662
01:27:39,187 --> 01:27:42,547
Speaker 3: Out nineteen seven. The final score there in favor of

1663
01:27:42,587 --> 01:27:45,507
Speaker 3: the Steamers, and back to Europe. Formula one is back.

1664
01:27:46,227 --> 01:27:48,947
Speaker 3: A chaotic first day of practice for the Dutch Grand Prix,

1665
01:27:49,027 --> 01:27:52,187
Speaker 3: which even saw Max the step and come off the track.

1666
01:27:53,067 --> 01:27:57,027
Speaker 3: What earth has happened to Max? The stap it there's

1667
01:27:57,027 --> 01:27:57,987
Speaker 3: the lockout, you could see it.

1668
01:27:58,707 --> 01:27:59,147
Speaker 15: I'm stuck.

1669
01:27:59,587 --> 01:28:00,667
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can switch off.

1670
01:28:01,187 --> 01:28:04,307
Speaker 3: Let's see what he is? Taking some serious speed in there.

1671
01:28:04,627 --> 01:28:07,107
Speaker 21: Jusphinariums were best up in is the w in tow one?

1672
01:28:07,187 --> 01:28:08,307
Speaker 24: The stall of that did?

1673
01:28:08,987 --> 01:28:11,667
Speaker 3: How did pick at the gravel? I think you would

1674
01:28:11,707 --> 01:28:11,987
Speaker 3: up to us?

1675
01:28:12,227 --> 01:28:16,187
Speaker 4: I don't know. Analyzing every view from every angle in

1676
01:28:16,307 --> 01:28:19,747
Speaker 4: the sporting world weekends for it with Jason Pye, they

1677
01:28:19,827 --> 01:28:22,547
Speaker 4: call eight hundred and eighty eight News Talks n B.

1678
01:28:23,347 --> 01:28:26,627
Speaker 3: Twelve minutes past two. A welcome return to the rugby

1679
01:28:26,747 --> 01:28:30,467
Speaker 3: field tomorrow for Caleb Clark when Auckland play Wellington at

1680
01:28:30,507 --> 01:28:34,587
Speaker 3: Bodydoor Park. He has recovered from his ankle injury now

1681
01:28:34,667 --> 01:28:35,107
Speaker 3: bans On.

1682
01:28:35,147 --> 01:28:38,747
Speaker 26: Le a proud through the Old Blacks Canda Park. On halftime,

1683
01:28:40,147 --> 01:28:42,987
Speaker 26: McKenzie runs a nice fine makes up Cada Park, Clark

1684
01:28:43,067 --> 01:28:45,227
Speaker 26: swerving his way through I would a many short and

1685
01:28:45,347 --> 01:28:49,587
Speaker 26: Becky wasn't he managed to get over momentum power pay

1686
01:28:49,627 --> 01:28:51,387
Speaker 26: the the park to try this time.

1687
01:28:51,547 --> 01:28:52,987
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure the All Blacks would love to have

1688
01:28:53,107 --> 01:28:56,787
Speaker 3: that sort of try scoring ability back at their disposal

1689
01:28:56,947 --> 01:29:00,067
Speaker 3: next weekend. That's all to come. Caleb Clarke is with

1690
01:29:00,267 --> 01:29:02,427
Speaker 3: us on Weekend Sport. Can you just remind us, Caleb,

1691
01:29:02,547 --> 01:29:05,547
Speaker 3: how and when the ankle injury occurred?

1692
01:29:06,747 --> 01:29:09,387
Speaker 15: Okod good to be on the show.

1693
01:29:10,147 --> 01:29:12,507
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just happened sort of that week we were

1694
01:29:12,547 --> 01:29:17,507
Speaker 5: preparing to play France in Wellington sort of that last

1695
01:29:17,587 --> 01:29:21,907
Speaker 5: big session to do. And yeah, just a little accident

1696
01:29:21,987 --> 01:29:24,187
Speaker 5: on the training field. Just one of the players just

1697
01:29:24,627 --> 01:29:26,547
Speaker 5: made a tack when he swung around and collected me

1698
01:29:26,627 --> 01:29:29,627
Speaker 5: on the other side. So for a couple of ligaments

1699
01:29:29,627 --> 01:29:31,867
Speaker 5: in the ankle. But now we're now we're back and

1700
01:29:31,947 --> 01:29:32,347
Speaker 5: ready to go.

1701
01:29:32,587 --> 01:29:36,067
Speaker 3: Good to hear. So what is the recovery mainly consistent

1702
01:29:36,107 --> 01:29:38,587
Speaker 3: of Caleb? Have you been able to do any any

1703
01:29:38,667 --> 01:29:40,587
Speaker 3: Cardigo for example, get on the bike. Have you been

1704
01:29:40,587 --> 01:29:43,707
Speaker 3: able to do anything of that sort, Yeah.

1705
01:29:43,707 --> 01:29:45,907
Speaker 5: A little bit like that. The first two weeks. Was

1706
01:29:45,987 --> 01:29:49,947
Speaker 5: pretty much staying offered and lived in a moon boot

1707
01:29:49,987 --> 01:29:53,787
Speaker 5: for yeah, the first two weeks, but found other ways

1708
01:29:53,867 --> 01:29:54,827
Speaker 5: to stay fit.

1709
01:29:54,987 --> 01:29:58,347
Speaker 27: So the skiter, the salt bike and the grinder became

1710
01:29:58,427 --> 01:30:00,467
Speaker 27: my three best friends over those weeks.

1711
01:30:01,507 --> 01:30:03,227
Speaker 5: But as soon as I could get on a w

1712
01:30:03,427 --> 01:30:06,267
Speaker 5: bike and start that, then yeah, that's what I did.

1713
01:30:06,427 --> 01:30:08,587
Speaker 27: But I think in the place good old running and

1714
01:30:08,667 --> 01:30:09,347
Speaker 27: good old rugby.

1715
01:30:09,427 --> 01:30:12,387
Speaker 5: So once I got back on that training field around

1716
01:30:12,427 --> 01:30:15,387
Speaker 5: week four, then yeah, that really got to put the

1717
01:30:15,427 --> 01:30:15,707
Speaker 5: work in.

1718
01:30:16,067 --> 01:30:18,627
Speaker 3: So was your last game of rugby then at the

1719
01:30:18,707 --> 01:30:19,907
Speaker 3: end of Super Rugby?

1720
01:30:20,587 --> 01:30:25,627
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it would have been Yeah, christ shirts but

1721
01:30:25,747 --> 01:30:28,547
Speaker 5: a little well, but yeah, excited and.

1722
01:30:28,787 --> 01:30:29,187
Speaker 9: Ready to go.

1723
01:30:29,467 --> 01:30:31,227
Speaker 3: It seems like a long time ago. Well, great to

1724
01:30:31,307 --> 01:30:34,147
Speaker 3: have your back. How challenging though, has it been watching

1725
01:30:34,187 --> 01:30:36,907
Speaker 3: both Auckland and also the All Blacks in the time

1726
01:30:36,987 --> 01:30:38,947
Speaker 3: that you've been on the sidelines and not being able

1727
01:30:38,987 --> 01:30:39,547
Speaker 3: to help them out.

1728
01:30:40,547 --> 01:30:43,707
Speaker 5: Yeah, like any rugby player would be just just inching

1729
01:30:43,787 --> 01:30:44,307
Speaker 5: to get out there.

1730
01:30:44,387 --> 01:30:47,027
Speaker 28: So did hurt a little bit, but you know, added

1731
01:30:47,027 --> 01:30:49,307
Speaker 28: a bit more fuel to the fire. And being with

1732
01:30:49,387 --> 01:30:51,907
Speaker 28: a talkland side if it's really exciting. We've got some

1733
01:30:52,067 --> 01:30:55,707
Speaker 28: young players that are are super talented but just haven't gone.

1734
01:30:56,067 --> 01:30:56,827
Speaker 9: The right results.

1735
01:30:56,867 --> 01:30:59,627
Speaker 11: So I'll find a I've kind.

1736
01:30:59,507 --> 01:31:03,187
Speaker 6: Of learned a little bit more myself and growing myself

1737
01:31:03,267 --> 01:31:04,507
Speaker 6: into the leader space.

1738
01:31:04,347 --> 01:31:05,667
Speaker 9: And trying to just build the confidence in.

1739
01:31:07,707 --> 01:31:09,907
Speaker 7: Yeah, just just have some fun and get that Internet

1740
01:31:09,987 --> 01:31:10,187
Speaker 7: back in.

1741
01:31:10,387 --> 01:31:12,467
Speaker 3: That is the silver lining I think. Isn't it that

1742
01:31:12,547 --> 01:31:14,667
Speaker 3: you get the chance to go back to your province

1743
01:31:14,787 --> 01:31:18,947
Speaker 3: and be influential there is that the role that returning

1744
01:31:18,987 --> 01:31:21,827
Speaker 3: All Blacks are asked to play within their MPC sides

1745
01:31:21,827 --> 01:31:23,827
Speaker 3: off and here the All Blacks coaches say that you

1746
01:31:23,867 --> 01:31:25,867
Speaker 3: know you meant to go back into your provinces and

1747
01:31:26,027 --> 01:31:28,987
Speaker 3: and and lead to be the all Black in that team.

1748
01:31:29,107 --> 01:31:31,067
Speaker 3: Is that is that the message you've given.

1749
01:31:31,827 --> 01:31:34,987
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, definitely and comes with ras has just.

1750
01:31:34,987 --> 01:31:37,627
Speaker 3: Been around you know, only my feet and where I am.

1751
01:31:37,827 --> 01:31:41,707
Speaker 5: So it's the Hawkland side and just building confidence and

1752
01:31:41,947 --> 01:31:45,227
Speaker 5: having fun with the boys and yeah, just just bring

1753
01:31:45,427 --> 01:31:46,107
Speaker 5: that leadership bro.

1754
01:31:46,587 --> 01:31:48,787
Speaker 28: Obviously in this team, I look around, there's probably fourth

1755
01:31:48,787 --> 01:31:50,467
Speaker 28: fund and I said over the age of twenty four.

1756
01:31:50,627 --> 01:31:53,987
Speaker 15: There it's a it's a young side and it's.

1757
01:31:53,867 --> 01:31:55,867
Speaker 23: A new new sort of way to lead.

1758
01:31:56,067 --> 01:31:58,307
Speaker 28: But I'm really excited and yeah, just happy to be

1759
01:31:58,387 --> 01:31:59,147
Speaker 28: back there on Sunday.

1760
01:31:59,387 --> 01:32:00,467
Speaker 15: Be back up on Sunday.

1761
01:32:00,747 --> 01:32:03,427
Speaker 3: During your time on the sidelines, have you had much

1762
01:32:03,707 --> 01:32:06,027
Speaker 3: contact with Scott robertson the other All Blacks coaches to

1763
01:32:06,067 --> 01:32:08,227
Speaker 3: manage and team, maybe the medical staff as well.

1764
01:32:08,867 --> 01:32:13,107
Speaker 24: Yeah, we're probably had more contact with medical and the SENC.

1765
01:32:13,347 --> 01:32:16,667
Speaker 28: So I had a lot of convos with Macha who's

1766
01:32:17,307 --> 01:32:18,227
Speaker 28: the physio.

1767
01:32:18,267 --> 01:32:23,107
Speaker 27: Gilly our senc and Cape cat Cat our musicianist, and

1768
01:32:23,187 --> 01:32:29,427
Speaker 27: then had conversations with to my Buttamdy and Jason and Healthy.

1769
01:32:29,547 --> 01:32:31,867
Speaker 11: So yeah, they've been good.

1770
01:32:32,387 --> 01:32:35,787
Speaker 15: Keep in contact. It's actually been on my end playing

1771
01:32:36,027 --> 01:32:37,307
Speaker 15: because I kept felling.

1772
01:32:37,347 --> 01:32:39,627
Speaker 21: I said the same thing they've never got that's that's

1773
01:32:39,667 --> 01:32:40,747
Speaker 21: my pot I need to be.

1774
01:32:40,787 --> 01:32:41,187
Speaker 7: Better at that.

1775
01:32:41,307 --> 01:32:42,707
Speaker 15: But they've been really good.

1776
01:32:43,387 --> 01:32:47,547
Speaker 3: Provided you get through tomorrow, okay, then would you theoretically

1777
01:32:48,227 --> 01:32:50,387
Speaker 3: be ready to play against the spring Box a week

1778
01:32:50,427 --> 01:32:50,747
Speaker 3: from now?

1779
01:32:51,987 --> 01:32:52,147
Speaker 19: Oh?

1780
01:32:53,707 --> 01:32:55,267
Speaker 7: Oh my my hand is up.

1781
01:32:55,467 --> 01:32:57,707
Speaker 28: So now that I'm back with Awkland, I'm ready to

1782
01:32:57,827 --> 01:33:01,027
Speaker 28: go and just putting my hand up as best I can.

1783
01:33:01,147 --> 01:33:04,347
Speaker 5: So pretty much that's down to down to the coaches

1784
01:33:04,347 --> 01:33:07,227
Speaker 5: and how they want to go. But me personally, my

1785
01:33:07,547 --> 01:33:09,267
Speaker 5: hand is always up and I'm just ready to go.

1786
01:33:09,387 --> 01:33:09,507
Speaker 9: Now.

1787
01:33:09,747 --> 01:33:11,667
Speaker 3: I'm sure you've had a close eye on the All

1788
01:33:11,707 --> 01:33:13,507
Speaker 3: Blacks test matches and there's been a lot of chat

1789
01:33:13,627 --> 01:33:17,507
Speaker 3: about the aerial battle, winning the aerial battle. How important

1790
01:33:17,547 --> 01:33:19,427
Speaker 3: that's become in top level rugby, not just in test

1791
01:33:19,467 --> 01:33:21,747
Speaker 3: matches but in all rugby. Really, how much do you

1792
01:33:21,867 --> 01:33:24,467
Speaker 3: pride yourself personally, Caleb on that part of your game.

1793
01:33:26,307 --> 01:33:28,867
Speaker 5: Oh, it's just there's something that I've developed over the years,

1794
01:33:28,907 --> 01:33:31,067
Speaker 5: especially you know, it started in the sevens a few

1795
01:33:31,147 --> 01:33:36,027
Speaker 5: years ago. Leam Barry was the one that Jordanan's myself

1796
01:33:36,107 --> 01:33:38,107
Speaker 5: in will Warbrick and that's sort of where the love

1797
01:33:38,147 --> 01:33:41,067
Speaker 5: for the aerial game started. But over the years, I've

1798
01:33:41,107 --> 01:33:44,107
Speaker 5: got to work alongside some special people and you know,

1799
01:33:44,227 --> 01:33:46,387
Speaker 5: with the league and a lot of the revenues, boys

1800
01:33:47,147 --> 01:33:50,387
Speaker 5: just helped define sort of that skill. So yeah, I

1801
01:33:50,507 --> 01:33:52,307
Speaker 5: really enjoyed and it's one of the parts of the

1802
01:33:52,347 --> 01:33:54,867
Speaker 5: game that I feel like I.

1803
01:33:54,947 --> 01:33:57,707
Speaker 7: Can sort of take lead. And so yeah, it's now

1804
01:33:57,827 --> 01:33:58,467
Speaker 7: with that rule.

1805
01:33:58,347 --> 01:34:01,067
Speaker 28: Teamge last year, It's just it's become such a key

1806
01:34:01,107 --> 01:34:03,427
Speaker 28: part of the game and that's sort of excite to me.

1807
01:34:03,947 --> 01:34:05,827
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me more about that. How much has that

1808
01:34:06,067 --> 01:34:10,027
Speaker 3: ruled change change things in the aerial battle.

1809
01:34:10,947 --> 01:34:12,467
Speaker 5: It's just the fact that.

1810
01:34:12,507 --> 01:34:15,227
Speaker 28: You protected anymore and it's become just a one on

1811
01:34:15,307 --> 01:34:15,787
Speaker 28: one battle.

1812
01:34:15,827 --> 01:34:19,267
Speaker 5: And in the air I think the team that sort

1813
01:34:19,267 --> 01:34:20,827
Speaker 5: of kicks that has more of a chance of getting

1814
01:34:20,827 --> 01:34:21,467
Speaker 5: the ball back.

1815
01:34:22,987 --> 01:34:23,787
Speaker 15: Favors that team.

1816
01:34:23,867 --> 01:34:26,947
Speaker 5: And yeah, again it's just a massive momentum shift.

1817
01:34:26,987 --> 01:34:29,187
Speaker 28: If you get it wrong, you know, it's a scrum

1818
01:34:29,267 --> 01:34:31,587
Speaker 28: back to the other team or penalty at work. So

1819
01:34:32,707 --> 01:34:35,187
Speaker 28: I think, yeah, that real change has made it quite interesting.

1820
01:34:35,267 --> 01:34:37,867
Speaker 5: I couldn't remember back to France was probably the first

1821
01:34:37,907 --> 01:34:39,627
Speaker 5: time when we played the French and we started getting

1822
01:34:39,667 --> 01:34:43,547
Speaker 5: penalized for it, it started to really show. So yeah,

1823
01:34:43,747 --> 01:34:46,027
Speaker 5: so it's an interesting one.

1824
01:34:46,707 --> 01:34:49,267
Speaker 15: It helps me when I'm chasing the ball then and

1825
01:34:49,347 --> 01:34:49,827
Speaker 15: off the field.

1826
01:34:49,907 --> 01:34:53,107
Speaker 3: Caleb, it's been a challenging time for you. In June,

1827
01:34:53,347 --> 01:34:56,907
Speaker 3: you pled guilty to dangerous driving and failing to stop

1828
01:34:57,027 --> 01:35:00,147
Speaker 3: for police. Back in December. How do you reflect on

1829
01:35:00,227 --> 01:35:02,627
Speaker 3: that incident in the last few months now.

1830
01:35:04,027 --> 01:35:06,787
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of those things that happened life for

1831
01:35:07,707 --> 01:35:11,587
Speaker 5: me that I've grown a lot from throughout that time,

1832
01:35:11,707 --> 01:35:15,267
Speaker 5: especial sort to hear what was going to say, with

1833
01:35:15,347 --> 01:35:17,507
Speaker 5: probably some of the hardest stags that I've hadd and

1834
01:35:17,907 --> 01:35:19,867
Speaker 5: to be feared that was happening all throughout super so

1835
01:35:20,587 --> 01:35:24,787
Speaker 5: just sitting it through the unknown probably a big learning

1836
01:35:24,827 --> 01:35:27,867
Speaker 5: curve for me and a victim to not only myself

1837
01:35:27,947 --> 01:35:31,067
Speaker 5: but my my family and all my loved ones. So yeah,

1838
01:35:31,227 --> 01:35:33,267
Speaker 5: so that's the part that's that's grown me a lot,

1839
01:35:33,347 --> 01:35:36,467
Speaker 5: And now that it's all past, I'm definitely learned my

1840
01:35:36,587 --> 01:35:39,787
Speaker 5: lesson and just ready to keep being sort of that positive,

1841
01:35:40,507 --> 01:35:43,187
Speaker 5: positive parentson in the community, but also just getting back

1842
01:35:43,227 --> 01:35:44,867
Speaker 5: into rugby and ready to rip.

1843
01:35:45,987 --> 01:35:48,627
Speaker 3: Well said, Well said, We're all looking forward to seeing

1844
01:35:48,627 --> 01:35:51,227
Speaker 3: you back out on the field for Auckland tomorrow in

1845
01:35:51,267 --> 01:35:53,307
Speaker 3: the first instance, Caleb, and who knows a week from now,

1846
01:35:53,387 --> 01:35:55,587
Speaker 3: maybe in a black jersey as well. All the best

1847
01:35:55,867 --> 01:35:58,347
Speaker 3: against the Wellington lines and Potador. Thanks for your time today, mate,

1848
01:35:58,827 --> 01:36:02,267
Speaker 3: Thanks thanks Caleb. Calub Clark there joining us, So yeah,

1849
01:36:02,307 --> 01:36:05,027
Speaker 3: back on the field. Hasn't played since the final game

1850
01:36:05,107 --> 01:36:09,787
Speaker 3: of Super Rugby, but ankle injuries. I guess you can

1851
01:36:09,867 --> 01:36:12,867
Speaker 3: keep up with your cardio. As Caleb said there, you

1852
01:36:13,027 --> 01:36:15,027
Speaker 3: just hope that he hasn't lost anything in terms of

1853
01:36:15,067 --> 01:36:17,867
Speaker 3: his ability to jump, because I get the feeling listening

1854
01:36:17,907 --> 01:36:19,827
Speaker 3: to Break and pauls an hour ago that that's what

1855
01:36:19,987 --> 01:36:24,427
Speaker 3: South Africa will bring to the Garden of Eden next

1856
01:36:24,427 --> 01:36:27,747
Speaker 3: Saturday night. An aerial game, a kicking game. Look, I

1857
01:36:27,787 --> 01:36:30,547
Speaker 3: think there's a huge temptation to bring Caleb Clark back

1858
01:36:30,587 --> 01:36:33,787
Speaker 3: into the twenty three at the very least, and maybe

1859
01:36:33,947 --> 01:36:36,747
Speaker 3: even straight back in, depending how he goes tomorrow. If

1860
01:36:36,787 --> 01:36:39,507
Speaker 3: he gets through tomorrow, Okay, I think you're back Caleb

1861
01:36:39,587 --> 01:36:43,827
Speaker 3: Clark in to that eleven jumper next weekend. What you're

1862
01:36:43,827 --> 01:36:46,987
Speaker 3: doing and around that, I'm not sure, but yeah, I

1863
01:36:47,187 --> 01:36:50,707
Speaker 3: just think you you know, they know what's coming. The

1864
01:36:51,387 --> 01:36:55,067
Speaker 3: aerial battle was a huge part of that second Test

1865
01:36:55,107 --> 01:36:58,187
Speaker 3: in particular against Argentina and the first one as well. Actually,

1866
01:36:58,747 --> 01:37:00,787
Speaker 3: and the All Blacks have said all year it's a

1867
01:37:00,867 --> 01:37:03,267
Speaker 3: real work on for them, something that that they really

1868
01:37:03,387 --> 01:37:07,147
Speaker 3: have to address. And Caleb Clark is long been regarded

1869
01:37:07,227 --> 01:37:09,907
Speaker 3: as one of the best when it comes to diffusing

1870
01:37:10,387 --> 01:37:13,427
Speaker 3: high kicks, So I think the temptation would have to

1871
01:37:13,467 --> 01:37:15,627
Speaker 3: be there, wouldn't it to bring him straight back in.

1872
01:37:16,307 --> 01:37:18,147
Speaker 3: We will wait and see. The team is named on

1873
01:37:18,427 --> 01:37:22,707
Speaker 3: Thursday to twenty one. Updating Live Sport from a sun

1874
01:37:22,867 --> 01:37:28,427
Speaker 3: soaked Rangiora Showgrounds, Canterbury twelve nil ahead of munawar Tu.

1875
01:37:29,147 --> 01:37:32,027
Speaker 3: Seems to be a brief stoppage at the moment, maybe

1876
01:37:32,067 --> 01:37:35,827
Speaker 3: a player being attended to. Eleven minute's gone there, time

1877
01:37:35,987 --> 01:37:38,307
Speaker 3: is off twelve nil Canterbury over Muna war Tu and

1878
01:37:38,427 --> 01:37:42,027
Speaker 3: Tadanauky seven to five ahead of Counties Manico. This game

1879
01:37:42,067 --> 01:37:45,027
Speaker 3: in Poka Koe quarter of an hour gone there, seven

1880
01:37:45,467 --> 01:37:50,027
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1881
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Speaker 3: Talks hereb take a break, come back and speak to

1882
01:37:52,947 --> 01:37:55,587
Speaker 3: one of our inspirational power athletes by the name of

1883
01:37:55,707 --> 01:37:58,387
Speaker 3: Rachel Mayer, off to the Power Climbing World champs in

1884
01:37:58,467 --> 01:38:01,827
Speaker 3: soul Carea next month. We'll find out a bit about

1885
01:38:01,867 --> 01:38:03,787
Speaker 3: her story when we come back on Weekend Sport.

1886
01:38:04,587 --> 01:38:06,307
Speaker 8: It's more than just a game.

1887
01:38:06,827 --> 01:38:11,467
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1889
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1890
01:38:17,067 --> 01:38:20,787
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1891
01:38:20,907 --> 01:38:26,307
Speaker 3: Climbing World championshipston Seoul Career in late September. Hers is

1892
01:38:26,787 --> 01:38:29,907
Speaker 3: quite the story, which we're about to get some insight

1893
01:38:30,187 --> 01:38:33,427
Speaker 3: into Rachel Myer's with us. Rachel, can we take it back?

1894
01:38:33,507 --> 01:38:37,547
Speaker 3: Tell us about the injury you sustained when you were

1895
01:38:37,867 --> 01:38:38,947
Speaker 3: sixteen years of age.

1896
01:38:40,187 --> 01:38:42,787
Speaker 29: Well, I tell the children, imagine make my vegetables in

1897
01:38:42,827 --> 01:38:46,427
Speaker 29: my left sell Off love it, which I'm pretty sure

1898
01:38:46,427 --> 01:38:50,427
Speaker 29: he's still off. Another adaptive athlete. Yes, actually the parents

1899
01:38:50,507 --> 01:38:53,827
Speaker 29: love it. I had a climbing excellent when I was sixteen.

1900
01:38:54,307 --> 01:38:59,027
Speaker 29: It was actually a very controlled, technically safe drop and

1901
01:38:59,067 --> 01:39:02,027
Speaker 29: a bouldering facility. I had a spotter. I felt like

1902
01:39:02,107 --> 01:39:03,987
Speaker 29: the last move that I could have done to get

1903
01:39:04,027 --> 01:39:06,187
Speaker 29: to the walk off would have been a bit unhim,

1904
01:39:06,347 --> 01:39:10,867
Speaker 29: which was pretty tired, so I did a very controlled full. Unfortunately,

1905
01:39:10,987 --> 01:39:14,547
Speaker 29: my feet went through a little margin where the facility

1906
01:39:14,587 --> 01:39:18,467
Speaker 29: A Dutch takes Chris back together, so it didn't really

1907
01:39:18,507 --> 01:39:20,947
Speaker 29: work out too well for me. I had bone grafts

1908
01:39:20,947 --> 01:39:23,387
Speaker 29: from my hip into one ankle, along with a lot

1909
01:39:23,427 --> 01:39:25,227
Speaker 29: of metal wear, and it also broke the other one,

1910
01:39:25,827 --> 01:39:28,707
Speaker 29: and then went on to have eighteen well more now

1911
01:39:28,947 --> 01:39:32,867
Speaker 29: years of disability and mobility challenges and pain.

1912
01:39:34,027 --> 01:39:38,347
Speaker 3: So you didn't have you amputation came later, didn't it?

1913
01:39:38,387 --> 01:39:41,587
Speaker 3: You went through multiple attempts to repair it. Is that right?

1914
01:39:42,627 --> 01:39:42,827
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1915
01:39:42,907 --> 01:39:46,507
Speaker 29: I had ten surgeries before the amputation, which was actually elective,

1916
01:39:46,707 --> 01:39:49,707
Speaker 29: and the last surgery before the amputation was an experimental

1917
01:39:49,787 --> 01:39:52,427
Speaker 29: one where the surgeon looked at me anysic. Look, I've

1918
01:39:52,787 --> 01:39:54,987
Speaker 29: got to be honest. I've only done this once before

1919
01:39:54,987 --> 01:39:58,707
Speaker 29: and it didn't work, and you're gonna need to be

1920
01:39:58,747 --> 01:40:00,907
Speaker 29: pretty resilient. And they showed me a picture of what

1921
01:40:00,907 --> 01:40:02,387
Speaker 29: they were going to do, and it was this massive

1922
01:40:02,507 --> 01:40:05,387
Speaker 29: metal expit frame where they drilled into the shin and

1923
01:40:05,467 --> 01:40:08,147
Speaker 29: the foot and wires and rods hanging out of the

1924
01:40:08,227 --> 01:40:09,507
Speaker 29: leg in the foot, and then they give you a

1925
01:40:09,547 --> 01:40:12,267
Speaker 29: pair of spanners and you have to slowly wind your

1926
01:40:12,307 --> 01:40:15,427
Speaker 29: ankle apart yourself over a period of time. And that

1927
01:40:15,747 --> 01:40:19,267
Speaker 29: frame stayed on for four months, during which time I

1928
01:40:19,427 --> 01:40:21,987
Speaker 29: was parenting, you know, three kids, one of them with

1929
01:40:22,107 --> 01:40:24,787
Speaker 29: a disability herself, very high needs, and one of them

1930
01:40:24,787 --> 01:40:25,827
Speaker 29: is still preschool age.

1931
01:40:26,147 --> 01:40:27,227
Speaker 23: And I would crutch into.

1932
01:40:27,067 --> 01:40:29,787
Speaker 29: Kindy with this big exit frame on my leg, and

1933
01:40:30,027 --> 01:40:33,187
Speaker 29: all these three four year olds will be tugging on

1934
01:40:33,267 --> 01:40:36,307
Speaker 29: their mum's sleeves saying, look, look that lady's a transformer.

1935
01:40:38,547 --> 01:40:40,747
Speaker 29: So it was pretty hectic and that was like the

1936
01:40:40,907 --> 01:40:43,627
Speaker 29: last attempt to save this leg that had just given

1937
01:40:43,707 --> 01:40:46,507
Speaker 29: me a lifetime, you know, my entire adult life of pain,

1938
01:40:47,227 --> 01:40:49,387
Speaker 29: and I wasn't going anywhere with it, so I just

1939
01:40:49,467 --> 01:40:50,947
Speaker 29: decided to fight for change.

1940
01:40:52,147 --> 01:40:55,627
Speaker 3: So you opted for below the knee amputation on that stage.

1941
01:40:56,307 --> 01:40:59,187
Speaker 3: Was it a relatively straightforward decision or did you still

1942
01:40:59,227 --> 01:41:01,507
Speaker 3: think yourself, hang on, I'm going to take half my

1943
01:41:01,627 --> 01:41:04,547
Speaker 3: leg off here, I'm making a decision to get rid

1944
01:41:04,587 --> 01:41:05,627
Speaker 3: of half of my leg here.

1945
01:41:06,707 --> 01:41:06,747
Speaker 8: No.

1946
01:41:06,867 --> 01:41:10,667
Speaker 23: I was all in by that point.

1947
01:41:10,707 --> 01:41:13,027
Speaker 29: I was competing as a para athlete unable to use

1948
01:41:13,067 --> 01:41:15,187
Speaker 29: the leg, and I'd created this life for myself where

1949
01:41:15,187 --> 01:41:18,507
Speaker 29: I knew worst case scenario if I had issues with

1950
01:41:18,627 --> 01:41:21,067
Speaker 29: the amputation or I didn't get mobile on a prosthetic.

1951
01:41:21,947 --> 01:41:24,507
Speaker 29: I had this thing that gave me joy and gave

1952
01:41:24,547 --> 01:41:27,347
Speaker 29: me purpose in my climbing, and I had community and

1953
01:41:27,387 --> 01:41:28,187
Speaker 29: connections who.

1954
01:41:28,187 --> 01:41:29,187
Speaker 23: Was able to help me through it.

1955
01:41:29,267 --> 01:41:32,147
Speaker 29: And it really is just such a testament to you know,

1956
01:41:32,227 --> 01:41:35,587
Speaker 29: the words Fano and the wider sense of family and

1957
01:41:35,827 --> 01:41:37,747
Speaker 29: the people around me that had carried me. And it's

1958
01:41:37,787 --> 01:41:41,147
Speaker 29: for sure I've put some gritin, resilience in and thought

1959
01:41:41,267 --> 01:41:43,827
Speaker 29: to recreate my own life but I've also been carried

1960
01:41:43,867 --> 01:41:46,747
Speaker 29: thereby for many people, and yeah, I.

1961
01:41:46,787 --> 01:41:49,987
Speaker 3: Was all in, can you just clarify, So do you

1962
01:41:50,147 --> 01:41:52,347
Speaker 3: climb with a prosthetic leg or not?

1963
01:41:53,507 --> 01:41:54,667
Speaker 23: That is an excellent question.

1964
01:41:56,427 --> 01:41:59,747
Speaker 29: I have competed more often without a prosthetic than with,

1965
01:42:00,507 --> 01:42:03,987
Speaker 29: but that's been due to ongoing challenges with my stump.

1966
01:42:04,067 --> 01:42:07,107
Speaker 29: I did end up with some really difficult challenges with

1967
01:42:07,267 --> 01:42:11,867
Speaker 29: my residulum that involved another amputation in twenty twenty two

1968
01:42:11,947 --> 01:42:15,027
Speaker 29: on the same leg, I lost more of it, and

1969
01:42:15,187 --> 01:42:17,787
Speaker 29: so as it's worked out, most of my comps have

1970
01:42:17,867 --> 01:42:20,227
Speaker 29: been without a prosthetic. But this year I'm back on

1971
01:42:20,507 --> 01:42:23,027
Speaker 29: a climbing leg and I'm really enjoying that.

1972
01:42:23,187 --> 01:42:24,107
Speaker 23: It's a different style.

1973
01:42:24,667 --> 01:42:29,667
Speaker 29: Our category of Wahini who compete in the lower limb field,

1974
01:42:30,187 --> 01:42:33,307
Speaker 29: we all have varying degrees of limb loss, so we're

1975
01:42:33,307 --> 01:42:35,467
Speaker 29: all missing one leg, but it could be left or right,

1976
01:42:35,587 --> 01:42:37,427
Speaker 29: it could be above or below the knee, and we

1977
01:42:37,587 --> 01:42:40,867
Speaker 29: may or may not use a prosthetic, and it's really against.

1978
01:42:40,867 --> 01:42:41,587
Speaker 23: Us in the wall.

1979
01:42:41,667 --> 01:42:45,867
Speaker 29: You know, how we adapt to our difference and what

1980
01:42:46,067 --> 01:42:48,387
Speaker 29: creative solutions we come up with in the moment to

1981
01:42:48,587 --> 01:42:51,147
Speaker 29: like problem solve the route that I've given us that

1982
01:42:51,227 --> 01:42:53,787
Speaker 29: we've never seen this forum, I've never climbed, and we've

1983
01:42:53,787 --> 01:42:56,467
Speaker 29: got this one chance to shine. So yeah, it's a

1984
01:42:56,507 --> 01:42:58,667
Speaker 29: bit of both. And I'm really looking forward to this

1985
01:42:58,787 --> 01:43:00,627
Speaker 29: year to being back out there with the prosthetic. And

1986
01:43:00,707 --> 01:43:04,667
Speaker 29: in May twenty twenty five or first World Cup this year,

1987
01:43:04,827 --> 01:43:07,227
Speaker 29: I was on a prosthetic, came away with the bronze,

1988
01:43:07,227 --> 01:43:08,187
Speaker 29: which was very exciting.

1989
01:43:08,747 --> 01:43:11,787
Speaker 3: Indeed, I saw that, so obviously it's that that bodes

1990
01:43:11,827 --> 01:43:15,867
Speaker 3: well for career. So I'm just trying to get my

1991
01:43:15,947 --> 01:43:18,707
Speaker 3: head round there. So before you had the amputation, you

1992
01:43:18,827 --> 01:43:21,987
Speaker 3: were still power climbing, but in a different class, is

1993
01:43:22,067 --> 01:43:22,387
Speaker 3: that right?

1994
01:43:22,947 --> 01:43:23,587
Speaker 23: That's crazy.

1995
01:43:23,787 --> 01:43:27,907
Speaker 29: I compared for one season and just one competition actually

1996
01:43:28,987 --> 01:43:33,987
Speaker 29: and the reduced power for impaired range of power category,

1997
01:43:34,267 --> 01:43:39,187
Speaker 29: And yeah, that was my introduction to climbing on the international.

1998
01:43:38,707 --> 01:43:39,827
Speaker 23: Stage as a parent athlete.

1999
01:43:40,027 --> 01:43:42,787
Speaker 29: And it was actually the event where I was able

2000
01:43:42,787 --> 01:43:45,347
Speaker 29: to meet a lot of amputees and talk to them

2001
01:43:45,467 --> 01:43:49,427
Speaker 29: and get to know their story and the potential potential

2002
01:43:49,507 --> 01:43:53,067
Speaker 29: and possibilities if I chose amputation of a pathway. And

2003
01:43:53,467 --> 01:43:56,707
Speaker 29: I went home from that computer competition and after the

2004
01:43:56,747 --> 01:43:58,707
Speaker 29: elective surgery, did.

2005
01:43:58,827 --> 01:44:01,027
Speaker 3: The amputation stop the pain.

2006
01:44:02,187 --> 01:44:06,507
Speaker 29: Ah, it stopped the pain from the damage I was

2007
01:44:06,547 --> 01:44:10,107
Speaker 29: living with. But unfortunately, because they'd had ten surgeries previously,

2008
01:44:10,227 --> 01:44:13,907
Speaker 29: I was high risk of neurological pain from seven in

2009
01:44:13,987 --> 01:44:17,787
Speaker 29: those nerves, and I now live with chronic chronic nerve pain.

2010
01:44:17,907 --> 01:44:21,627
Speaker 29: So at the moment as we're speaking, I'm probably sitting

2011
01:44:21,667 --> 01:44:23,467
Speaker 29: on like a seven out of ten paint. So it

2012
01:44:23,587 --> 01:44:26,507
Speaker 29: feels like I don't know if you've vapped yourself with

2013
01:44:26,547 --> 01:44:30,067
Speaker 29: an electric sense, but well, it feels like an electric sense,

2014
01:44:30,147 --> 01:44:32,907
Speaker 29: but instead of being like just a zap, it's non stop.

2015
01:44:33,027 --> 01:44:34,387
Speaker 29: It just it never stopped.

2016
01:44:35,027 --> 01:44:36,947
Speaker 3: Well, I touched an electric fence once, but it was

2017
01:44:37,027 --> 01:44:40,467
Speaker 3: for about half a second. So I can in a

2018
01:44:40,627 --> 01:44:44,227
Speaker 3: seven out of is that where you where you live

2019
01:44:45,067 --> 01:44:46,947
Speaker 3: day to day? At a seven out of ten.

2020
01:44:47,667 --> 01:44:50,547
Speaker 29: Day to day seven, but like throughout the day that

2021
01:44:50,667 --> 01:44:53,787
Speaker 29: will escalate to a ten. And you know, evenings in

2022
01:44:53,867 --> 01:44:56,507
Speaker 29: particular in that time, I won't sleep unless I've had

2023
01:44:56,547 --> 01:44:57,067
Speaker 29: a sedative.

2024
01:44:57,107 --> 01:44:59,187
Speaker 23: That it just doesn't stop. It's just always there.

2025
01:44:59,227 --> 01:45:02,427
Speaker 29: It's it's part of my journey now and I've just learned.

2026
01:45:02,467 --> 01:45:04,387
Speaker 29: So like trying to turn the volume up on Joy

2027
01:45:04,547 --> 01:45:06,867
Speaker 29: is like I guess medicine to the soul body, and

2028
01:45:07,307 --> 01:45:10,227
Speaker 29: that for climbing comes in. When I'm climbing, the pain's

2029
01:45:10,227 --> 01:45:13,587
Speaker 29: still there, but it's quieter, and I've like I've found

2030
01:45:13,627 --> 01:45:15,147
Speaker 29: a way to move and to feel free and to

2031
01:45:15,227 --> 01:45:17,747
Speaker 29: feel live. And I guess like I'm also pretty scared

2032
01:45:17,787 --> 01:45:21,707
Speaker 29: of heights. So lots of adrenaline and that helps manage pain,

2033
01:45:21,867 --> 01:45:24,347
Speaker 29: and I feel like I have perfect in it and

2034
01:45:25,467 --> 01:45:27,427
Speaker 29: maybe get to live a life with impact for others.

2035
01:45:27,547 --> 01:45:30,067
Speaker 20: So, yeah, did you.

2036
01:45:30,067 --> 01:45:31,467
Speaker 3: Say you were scared of Did you say you were

2037
01:45:31,467 --> 01:45:32,147
Speaker 3: scared of heights?

2038
01:45:33,107 --> 01:45:35,187
Speaker 23: Scared of heights? Of public speaking?

2039
01:45:35,507 --> 01:45:35,747
Speaker 24: Wow?

2040
01:45:35,907 --> 01:45:39,467
Speaker 3: Here we are, I know exactly amazing. You want brawnze

2041
01:45:39,467 --> 01:45:40,827
Speaker 3: at the twenty twenty three World Champs.

2042
01:45:40,867 --> 01:45:43,907
Speaker 29: Tell us about that, I say, Will Chance was really

2043
01:45:44,027 --> 01:45:47,427
Speaker 29: challenging to me. I actually had a very difficult situation

2044
01:45:47,587 --> 01:45:50,307
Speaker 29: with my daughter who's hei needs a month or two

2045
01:45:50,387 --> 01:45:54,347
Speaker 29: before the event, and I ended up with a concussion

2046
01:45:54,427 --> 01:45:58,507
Speaker 29: and injury. Parenting a special needs teenager on your hands

2047
01:45:58,547 --> 01:46:00,627
Speaker 29: and knees or encrutches.

2048
01:46:00,427 --> 01:46:02,787
Speaker 23: Or wheelchairs, just it's hard.

2049
01:46:03,787 --> 01:46:05,987
Speaker 29: And so I actually took a big rest before that event,

2050
01:46:06,427 --> 01:46:08,867
Speaker 29: and in the morning I was meant to fly out,

2051
01:46:08,907 --> 01:46:10,707
Speaker 29: I was lying on the couch going yet not going

2052
01:46:10,747 --> 01:46:14,427
Speaker 29: to go lack my heart's I'm going to fail, it's

2053
01:46:14,467 --> 01:46:17,427
Speaker 29: not worth it. And a friend came over and she

2054
01:46:17,547 --> 01:46:19,587
Speaker 29: literally packed my bag and picked me out and cut

2055
01:46:19,627 --> 01:46:21,947
Speaker 29: me on the plane. And when I got there, I realized,

2056
01:46:21,987 --> 01:46:23,467
Speaker 29: you know, I just it really sent on to me

2057
01:46:23,547 --> 01:46:26,227
Speaker 29: again how important it is to do something for ourselves

2058
01:46:26,307 --> 01:46:27,427
Speaker 29: in a month's the hard things.

2059
01:46:28,827 --> 01:46:31,547
Speaker 23: And family is important, but our own identity is important too.

2060
01:46:31,667 --> 01:46:34,027
Speaker 23: So I just decided to go out there and give

2061
01:46:34,067 --> 01:46:35,667
Speaker 23: it how and be in the moment.

2062
01:46:35,867 --> 01:46:38,507
Speaker 29: I wasn't wearing a prosthetic, I couldn't walk, and I

2063
01:46:38,587 --> 01:46:40,827
Speaker 29: came away with a bronze And yeah, I wear a

2064
01:46:40,907 --> 01:46:44,427
Speaker 29: lot of emotion and my heart's on my sleeve all

2065
01:46:44,467 --> 01:46:47,627
Speaker 29: the time. And I think that just shows how important

2066
01:46:47,667 --> 01:46:50,107
Speaker 29: it is to me to be able to honor and

2067
01:46:50,227 --> 01:46:54,227
Speaker 29: reflect and be grounded and like the power we have

2068
01:46:54,347 --> 01:46:56,947
Speaker 29: in ourselves to recreate our lives and to find our

2069
01:46:56,987 --> 01:46:59,547
Speaker 29: identity and amongst all those other labels that we carry,

2070
01:46:59,627 --> 01:47:03,227
Speaker 29: some of them good like mother, sister, friend, all of

2071
01:47:03,307 --> 01:47:06,187
Speaker 29: those things, but also other labels that perhaps we put

2072
01:47:06,187 --> 01:47:09,347
Speaker 29: our ourselves or other people give to us then are

2073
01:47:09,387 --> 01:47:11,787
Speaker 29: more negative. And yeah, it was just it was a

2074
01:47:11,867 --> 01:47:12,907
Speaker 29: really great moment for me.

2075
01:47:13,987 --> 01:47:16,387
Speaker 3: Your sport's been accepted onto the program for the first

2076
01:47:16,427 --> 01:47:19,267
Speaker 3: time at the LA Paralympic Games in twenty twenty eight.

2077
01:47:19,387 --> 01:47:22,267
Speaker 3: Is that a big, big carrot for you, a big motivator.

2078
01:47:22,507 --> 01:47:23,427
Speaker 23: Yes, for sure.

2079
01:47:24,867 --> 01:47:27,707
Speaker 29: You know it's hard that are sweet because it is

2080
01:47:28,027 --> 01:47:30,307
Speaker 29: the first time that we're in the Paralympics and as

2081
01:47:30,387 --> 01:47:32,467
Speaker 29: such it will be a smaller event. So this means

2082
01:47:32,507 --> 01:47:35,747
Speaker 29: that not all of our categories that currently compete on

2083
01:47:35,827 --> 01:47:38,067
Speaker 29: the international stage are going to be seen at the

2084
01:47:38,347 --> 01:47:42,787
Speaker 29: LA twenty twenty Paralympics. Fortunately, my caategory is one, so

2085
01:47:42,867 --> 01:47:45,267
Speaker 29: I do have the opportunity, but I'm very mindful that

2086
01:47:45,787 --> 01:47:48,867
Speaker 29: as much of it as an opportunity for me, it's

2087
01:47:48,907 --> 01:47:52,187
Speaker 29: also an opportunity to showcase our sport and to do

2088
01:47:52,947 --> 01:47:55,267
Speaker 29: such a good job of that that all of our

2089
01:47:55,347 --> 01:47:59,667
Speaker 29: categories are you know, introduced for the following paralym Pics

2090
01:47:59,707 --> 01:48:02,107
Speaker 29: in twenty thirty two, and then we get our whole

2091
01:48:02,187 --> 01:48:06,347
Speaker 29: way that adaptive family there. So we're all very happy

2092
01:48:06,587 --> 01:48:08,507
Speaker 29: to be I guess there's a lot of joy in it,

2093
01:48:09,347 --> 01:48:11,147
Speaker 29: but a lot of responsibility as well.

2094
01:48:11,787 --> 01:48:14,987
Speaker 3: How much of climbing is about problem solving.

2095
01:48:15,707 --> 01:48:16,107
Speaker 23: All of it?

2096
01:48:17,427 --> 01:48:20,227
Speaker 29: Yeah, we so it's an interesting sport. You know, when

2097
01:48:20,227 --> 01:48:24,107
Speaker 29: you're swimming, you're running, you're swimming the same pool. When

2098
01:48:24,147 --> 01:48:26,707
Speaker 29: you're rowing, you're rowing the same lengths, and the conditions

2099
01:48:26,787 --> 01:48:31,707
Speaker 29: might be different. Again, like there's many sports where with

2100
01:48:31,867 --> 01:48:34,787
Speaker 29: the route or the thing that you're doing is repetitive

2101
01:48:34,787 --> 01:48:37,507
Speaker 29: and it's the same, But in climbing, it's completely different.

2102
01:48:37,587 --> 01:48:40,387
Speaker 29: Every time we actually, if we're in finals, we're actually

2103
01:48:40,467 --> 01:48:42,827
Speaker 29: locked in a stadium room out the back. We're locked

2104
01:48:42,867 --> 01:48:46,267
Speaker 29: there for up to it could be six hours, no bluetooth,

2105
01:48:46,347 --> 01:48:49,387
Speaker 29: no cell phone, no devices that could connect us to

2106
01:48:49,427 --> 01:48:52,227
Speaker 29: the outside world. And during that time, the problem that

2107
01:48:52,307 --> 01:48:54,067
Speaker 29: we'll climb has put up on the wall, so we've

2108
01:48:54,147 --> 01:48:56,507
Speaker 29: never seen it. The fole, we've never touched it. They'll

2109
01:48:56,547 --> 01:48:58,707
Speaker 29: give us a six minute viewing period where we can

2110
01:48:58,907 --> 01:49:00,747
Speaker 29: go and look at it, and then you look locked

2111
01:49:00,867 --> 01:49:02,667
Speaker 29: back in your room out the back where you're trying

2112
01:49:02,707 --> 01:49:05,227
Speaker 29: to time your warm up for this imaginary stat point

2113
01:49:05,307 --> 01:49:06,467
Speaker 29: that sort of shifts.

2114
01:49:06,347 --> 01:49:09,027
Speaker 23: People move quickly or slowly through the route.

2115
01:49:09,187 --> 01:49:11,107
Speaker 29: And then you're brought out and you're given this one

2116
01:49:11,267 --> 01:49:13,467
Speaker 29: chance with six minutes to climb this road.

2117
01:49:13,467 --> 01:49:14,987
Speaker 23: As soon as you fall off, it's all over.

2118
01:49:15,147 --> 01:49:18,027
Speaker 29: So you're going to the highest point you can reach,

2119
01:49:18,307 --> 01:49:21,387
Speaker 29: and each hold is one point and then positive direction

2120
01:49:21,467 --> 01:49:23,827
Speaker 29: towards the next holes that half a point and it

2121
01:49:23,907 --> 01:49:24,547
Speaker 29: can come down to.

2122
01:49:24,587 --> 01:49:25,107
Speaker 8: Half a point.

2123
01:49:26,107 --> 01:49:29,227
Speaker 3: Incredible. And so is there a top, like, can you

2124
01:49:29,427 --> 01:49:31,067
Speaker 3: do you typically reach the top?

2125
01:49:31,827 --> 01:49:32,547
Speaker 23: There is a top?

2126
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Speaker 29: Yes, I think the route is a you know, there

2127
01:49:36,147 --> 01:49:39,547
Speaker 29: a lot of responsibility to make these dynamic and exciting

2128
01:49:39,627 --> 01:49:43,147
Speaker 29: and fun challenging, and then also to see some tops,

2129
01:49:43,187 --> 01:49:45,547
Speaker 29: but not too many tops. Want the whole field topping

2130
01:49:45,747 --> 01:49:46,667
Speaker 29: or you're kind of.

2131
01:49:48,507 --> 01:49:51,427
Speaker 3: It must be too easy, Yeah, far too easy. Everyone's

2132
01:49:51,427 --> 01:49:52,827
Speaker 3: reach to the top. It must be too easy.

2133
01:49:53,227 --> 01:49:55,547
Speaker 29: Yeah, I've had I've definitely had some tops. Actually, my

2134
01:49:55,747 --> 01:49:58,947
Speaker 29: very first World Championship, very first international competition, I topped

2135
01:49:58,987 --> 01:50:00,907
Speaker 29: my first climb and I got to the top of

2136
01:50:00,947 --> 01:50:03,747
Speaker 29: it and was like, oh, I'm.

2137
01:50:03,547 --> 01:50:05,747
Speaker 23: Actually okay at this. I did not expect that.

2138
01:50:06,467 --> 01:50:08,947
Speaker 29: And then I ended up qualifying for finals, which was

2139
01:50:08,987 --> 01:50:12,187
Speaker 29: the first for New Zealand athletes and able disabled climbing

2140
01:50:12,667 --> 01:50:13,827
Speaker 29: and male or female.

2141
01:50:13,867 --> 01:50:16,187
Speaker 23: That's like a little piece of history I get to

2142
01:50:16,267 --> 01:50:17,427
Speaker 23: keep for our country forever.

2143
01:50:17,547 --> 01:50:19,627
Speaker 29: And I remember just sitting there looking at the list

2144
01:50:19,667 --> 01:50:21,587
Speaker 29: of four athletes through the finals and my name was

2145
01:50:21,667 --> 01:50:24,987
Speaker 29: on it. I was like, is there, Like, well an official,

2146
01:50:25,067 --> 01:50:26,987
Speaker 29: come and tell me. How do I know I'm allowed

2147
01:50:27,027 --> 01:50:28,147
Speaker 29: in the final war month zone?

2148
01:50:28,187 --> 01:50:28,907
Speaker 23: What do I do now?

2149
01:50:28,987 --> 01:50:29,027
Speaker 7: Like?

2150
01:50:29,107 --> 01:50:32,907
Speaker 23: I just haven't planned for it at all. So, yeah,

2151
01:50:33,027 --> 01:50:35,987
Speaker 23: the top are pretty epic. That's what we're all going for.

2152
01:50:36,227 --> 01:50:37,187
Speaker 23: There's a lot of joy in that.

2153
01:50:38,147 --> 01:50:39,667
Speaker 29: But there's also just a lot of joy in being

2154
01:50:39,747 --> 01:50:42,827
Speaker 29: in the moment and you know, trying to really, I guess,

2155
01:50:42,907 --> 01:50:45,347
Speaker 29: like take advantage of that clim that's been put out

2156
01:50:45,347 --> 01:50:47,707
Speaker 29: there for us, because as adapted to climbers, we're not

2157
01:50:47,787 --> 01:50:50,307
Speaker 29: getting that in gyms. Often you go into a gym

2158
01:50:50,387 --> 01:50:52,387
Speaker 29: and roots of sets for people with two leaves or

2159
01:50:52,427 --> 01:50:56,467
Speaker 29: two or a fully functioning body, and so you can

2160
01:50:56,507 --> 01:50:59,307
Speaker 29: come up against blockermovsy Right, Yeah, well I want I'm

2161
01:50:59,347 --> 01:50:59,747
Speaker 29: going to work.

2162
01:51:00,627 --> 01:51:02,227
Speaker 23: So when we're competing, these.

2163
01:51:02,107 --> 01:51:05,467
Speaker 29: Routes are set specifically for women with that legs or

2164
01:51:05,507 --> 01:51:09,427
Speaker 29: specifically men who aren't able to see, or you know,

2165
01:51:09,867 --> 01:51:12,427
Speaker 29: all the different categories they set specifically for us, and

2166
01:51:12,507 --> 01:51:14,187
Speaker 29: it is such a joy to crime.

2167
01:51:14,067 --> 01:51:14,867
Speaker 23: On those problems.

2168
01:51:15,827 --> 01:51:19,347
Speaker 3: Do you ever think back and wonder what might what

2169
01:51:19,507 --> 01:51:21,907
Speaker 3: your life might be like if they hadn't taped up

2170
01:51:21,987 --> 01:51:24,307
Speaker 3: that that thing back in when you were sixteen.

2171
01:51:25,267 --> 01:51:25,467
Speaker 21: I do.

2172
01:51:26,067 --> 01:51:33,467
Speaker 29: I don't allow myself to certain it too often and

2173
01:51:33,547 --> 01:51:35,947
Speaker 29: maybe I'll get emotional. And it's actually, ironically not for

2174
01:51:36,067 --> 01:51:40,107
Speaker 29: the reason you might think. I am so grateful for

2175
01:51:40,267 --> 01:51:44,387
Speaker 29: somebody else's mistake, because the person that I've become and

2176
01:51:44,627 --> 01:51:47,907
Speaker 29: the pathways it's created for me, and the resilience that

2177
01:51:48,027 --> 01:51:50,227
Speaker 29: it's developed in me that I now get to like.

2178
01:51:51,907 --> 01:51:54,107
Speaker 29: I mean, I educate in this. This is something that

2179
01:51:54,227 --> 01:51:56,387
Speaker 29: I do like part time on the side is public

2180
01:51:56,467 --> 01:51:59,707
Speaker 29: speaking and resilience, and I make these connections for people

2181
01:51:59,827 --> 01:52:02,107
Speaker 29: who will come up to me later and say, look,

2182
01:52:02,147 --> 01:52:03,787
Speaker 29: you've like you've altered the path.

2183
01:52:03,667 --> 01:52:04,187
Speaker 8: Of my life.

2184
01:52:04,227 --> 01:52:08,387
Speaker 29: And that's the expected to be able to have that

2185
01:52:08,587 --> 01:52:11,187
Speaker 29: much impact in the world. But it gives me so

2186
01:52:11,387 --> 01:52:13,707
Speaker 29: much light to be able to do that. And yes,

2187
01:52:13,787 --> 01:52:15,987
Speaker 29: I love in an extreme amount of pain, but I

2188
01:52:16,107 --> 01:52:18,627
Speaker 29: also get to love a life of impact, and I

2189
01:52:18,707 --> 01:52:20,627
Speaker 29: just wouldn't have that any other way. And I've definitely

2190
01:52:20,707 --> 01:52:22,907
Speaker 29: looked back and thought, you know, what would it be

2191
01:52:23,067 --> 01:52:26,627
Speaker 29: like if that hadn't happened, And I can't imagine it.

2192
01:52:26,867 --> 01:52:31,347
Speaker 29: I can't there's nothing like if I ask myself that question,

2193
01:52:31,947 --> 01:52:34,667
Speaker 29: there's just this blank, empty void in front of me,

2194
01:52:35,187 --> 01:52:38,147
Speaker 29: and it's not full of light and sunshine. And yes,

2195
01:52:39,467 --> 01:52:41,147
Speaker 29: what I do have in front of me is difficult,

2196
01:52:41,267 --> 01:52:43,107
Speaker 29: but it is full of so much light and sunshine.

2197
01:52:43,147 --> 01:52:45,747
Speaker 29: I think I feel that brightness so much more because

2198
01:52:45,787 --> 01:52:47,347
Speaker 29: of all the doubt stuff as well.

2199
01:52:48,747 --> 01:52:51,507
Speaker 3: Impacting others is an absolute superpower, it really is, and

2200
01:52:52,067 --> 01:52:56,507
Speaker 3: obviously you are doing it regularly along with your supreme

2201
01:52:56,787 --> 01:52:59,267
Speaker 3: climbing ability. Rachel has been such a delight to chat

2202
01:52:59,307 --> 01:53:01,147
Speaker 3: to you. I can't wait to see how you go

2203
01:53:01,867 --> 01:53:04,547
Speaker 3: in Soul. Thank you for being so open and so

2204
01:53:04,667 --> 01:53:05,987
Speaker 3: generous with your time this afternoon.

2205
01:53:06,467 --> 01:53:07,707
Speaker 23: Thanks so much, Say good.

2206
01:53:08,067 --> 01:53:11,027
Speaker 3: No, thank you. Rachel Meyer there off to compete in

2207
01:53:11,067 --> 01:53:16,667
Speaker 3: the Power Climbing World Championships in Soul Career late next month.

2208
01:53:16,747 --> 01:53:21,027
Speaker 3: What a story. Now she get completely unfunded. There's no

2209
01:53:21,187 --> 01:53:25,587
Speaker 3: funding available to her to compete in this competition or

2210
01:53:25,707 --> 01:53:29,947
Speaker 3: any competition as such. She is running a give a

2211
01:53:29,987 --> 01:53:34,067
Speaker 3: Little page to help raise some money to fund her

2212
01:53:34,227 --> 01:53:36,787
Speaker 3: trip to the World champs So give a little dot

2213
01:53:36,827 --> 01:53:40,707
Speaker 3: co dot MZ just search for Rachel Meyer. The surname

2214
01:53:40,827 --> 01:53:44,427
Speaker 3: is m Aia and you'll find the details there of

2215
01:53:44,827 --> 01:53:48,547
Speaker 3: climbing with Purpose. So yeah, if you are in the

2216
01:53:48,627 --> 01:53:51,067
Speaker 3: position to help out in any way, that would be

2217
01:53:51,307 --> 01:53:54,347
Speaker 3: much appreciated. One of the more inspirational guests we've had

2218
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Speaker 3: on the show for quite some time. Twenty to three

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2223
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2225
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Speaker 9: I think so?

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Speaker 3: Yep, well I understood it, so I think it's a

2247
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Speaker 3: That's the short option. Okay, yep, Evans, the sir, do

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Speaker 3: you know how fast you were going? Special? This is

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Speaker 3: around the Dutch Formula one Grand Prix and qualifying. So

2259
01:56:27,867 --> 01:56:31,427
Speaker 3: we're looking for Liam Lawson to qualify for the Q

2260
01:56:31,747 --> 01:56:36,027
Speaker 3: three shootout, which effectively, Robert means Liam Lawson qualifying inside

2261
01:56:36,067 --> 01:56:38,867
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Speaker 3: the inn for United Boss Rubin Amram, you would win

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Speaker 3: one thousand and fifty dollars, So it would be nice. Yeah,

2270
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Speaker 3: So to recap Cowboys to beat the Broncos that pays

2271
01:57:12,347 --> 01:57:16,147
Speaker 3: you two hundred and seventeen fifty. Liam Lawson to qualify

2272
01:57:16,227 --> 01:57:18,347
Speaker 3: in the top ten, that pays you three hundred and

2273
01:57:18,427 --> 01:57:22,387
Speaker 3: seventy five. Burnley to beat Manchester United, that pays you

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Speaker 9: I think I would like the Liam Lawson one.

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Speaker 3: Liam Lawson to qualify in the top ten. That's great. Well,

2277
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Speaker 3: it's it's a patriotic one as well. And the way

2278
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Speaker 3: he's going, the way's going, I.

2279
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Speaker 13: Think, well a month ago he's doing very well, got

2280
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Speaker 13: the top top eight places in the or top eight.

2281
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Speaker 3: That's right. No, look, I think he's heading in the

2282
01:57:46,747 --> 01:57:49,027
Speaker 3: right direction, all right. So we'll lock that in the

2283
01:57:49,387 --> 01:57:52,707
Speaker 3: the even option, Liam Lawson to qualify for the Q

2284
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2285
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Speaker 3: that would be lovely, it would I'm going to put

2287
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Speaker 3: your back on hold mate, have another chat to Andy

2288
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Speaker 3: the bet and keep our fingers crossed for you that

2290
01:58:09,787 --> 01:58:15,667
Speaker 3: Liam Lawson qualifies for Q three Q three, qualifying basically

2291
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Speaker 3: in the top ten. He'll be happy with that, and

2292
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2294
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Speaker 3: our mates at the tab as always, please bet responsibly

2296
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Speaker 3: On the subject of Liam Lawson. He's clocked the eleventh

2297
01:58:33,227 --> 01:58:36,827
Speaker 3: and fourteenth fastest times in the opening two practice sessions

2298
01:58:36,907 --> 01:58:40,147
Speaker 3: at the Dutch Grand Prix. He had better times than

2299
01:58:40,267 --> 01:58:43,947
Speaker 3: Racing Balls teammatee Isaac Hadger, who completed the twelfth fastest

2300
01:58:43,987 --> 01:58:46,867
Speaker 3: time in practice one before being forced to retire in

2301
01:58:46,947 --> 01:58:50,627
Speaker 3: the second practice without setting a timed lap because of

2302
01:58:50,747 --> 01:58:55,467
Speaker 3: a power unit issue. McLaren's Lando Norris set the fastest

2303
01:58:55,547 --> 01:58:59,107
Speaker 3: times across both practice sessions. So Liam Lawson well and

2304
01:58:59,187 --> 01:58:59,907
Speaker 3: truly in the mix.

2305
01:58:59,987 --> 01:59:00,587
Speaker 29: Here is his.

2306
01:59:00,787 --> 01:59:04,027
Speaker 3: Assessment of his opening day of practice at the Dutch

2307
01:59:04,107 --> 01:59:04,547
Speaker 3: Grand Prix.

2308
01:59:05,427 --> 01:59:07,667
Speaker 10: First day, buck in the back to where it all started,

2309
01:59:07,707 --> 01:59:09,467
Speaker 10: of course, how was it for you out there?

2310
01:59:10,707 --> 01:59:14,147
Speaker 30: It was good, honestly, it's it's been a tricky day.

2311
01:59:14,187 --> 01:59:16,947
Speaker 30: It's a hard track I think, and that probably showed today.

2312
01:59:18,947 --> 01:59:21,667
Speaker 30: But yeah, feeling feeling comfortable. Cars in a in a

2313
01:59:21,707 --> 01:59:24,987
Speaker 30: good place. I think, struggle a little bit at the

2314
01:59:25,107 --> 01:59:27,347
Speaker 30: end with the soft we didn't really do a proper

2315
01:59:27,387 --> 01:59:31,307
Speaker 30: lap in the ends, but I think in general the

2316
01:59:31,387 --> 01:59:33,827
Speaker 30: car is good, but we'll find out tomorrow.

2317
01:59:34,027 --> 01:59:36,467
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a good starting point. So you feel like

2318
01:59:36,507 --> 01:59:39,987
Speaker 10: you've got decent direction to work in overnight. Of course

2319
01:59:40,027 --> 01:59:43,227
Speaker 10: there is the potential for some more rain as well tomorrow.

2320
01:59:43,267 --> 01:59:44,747
Speaker 10: So what's your you're thinking about all of that.

2321
01:59:45,587 --> 01:59:48,707
Speaker 30: Yeah, I mean it's we we just tried to make

2322
01:59:48,707 --> 01:59:51,027
Speaker 30: the most of track time today and then obviously we yeah,

2323
01:59:51,067 --> 01:59:52,667
Speaker 30: we'll see what the weather does. But in this place,

2324
01:59:52,747 --> 01:59:55,067
Speaker 30: that's always up in the air. I think everybody was

2325
01:59:55,107 --> 01:59:57,107
Speaker 30: trying to play it by here today in in P

2326
01:59:57,267 --> 01:59:59,507
Speaker 30: two and then tomorrow obviously it's it's gonna be.

2327
01:59:59,507 --> 01:59:59,947
Speaker 8: The same thing.

2328
02:00:00,107 --> 02:00:03,867
Speaker 30: So trying to maximize track time it's going to be

2329
02:00:03,907 --> 02:00:07,787
Speaker 30: important of qualifyings like this. Then it's uh, makes it

2330
02:00:07,867 --> 02:00:09,387
Speaker 30: really tricky. You're trying to be on track at the

2331
02:00:09,467 --> 02:00:11,787
Speaker 30: right time, trying to avoid yellow flags, red flags, and

2332
02:00:12,667 --> 02:00:14,747
Speaker 30: that can be the hardest part, to be honest, more

2333
02:00:14,787 --> 02:00:17,987
Speaker 30: than just having a quick car. So we'll keep tripping

2334
02:00:17,987 --> 02:00:19,987
Speaker 30: away at the car over night and then try and

2335
02:00:20,147 --> 02:00:21,587
Speaker 30: make the most of tomorrow. And so who will end

2336
02:00:21,667 --> 02:00:21,987
Speaker 30: up in.

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Speaker 10: Any case, we've talked about it before. It looks like

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Speaker 10: another super tight midfield butlal theres it's going to keep

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Speaker 10: you on your isn't.

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Speaker 19: It always always the way? At the moment.

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Speaker 30: It's great for the for the championship, for the sport,

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Speaker 30: makes it really tough for us. But yeah, it's going

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Speaker 30: to be important tomorrow to try and put everything together

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Speaker 30: and let's let's see if we can do that.

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Speaker 3: Those are the post practice thoughts of Liam Lawson looking

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Speaker 3: looking good. Eleventh and fourteenth fastest in the opening two

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Speaker 3: practice sessions. I think one more practice session then they

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Speaker 3: go into qualifying, don't they. The race itself is on

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Speaker 3: Monday morning. Let's hope that Liam Lawson can continue the

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Speaker 3: form that he's been showing in the in the last

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Speaker 3: few Grand Prix. Who knows, maybe even getting up to

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Speaker 3: war it's the pointy end. We'll wait and see. We

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Speaker 3: will wait and see. Nine and a half away from three,

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Speaker 3: News Talks HEB the biggest.

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Speaker 4: Things in sports are on the weekend Sports.

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Speaker 3: With Jason Pain and GJ.

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Speaker 4: Gubnodes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder, News.

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Speaker 3: Talks NB coming up. Six away from three. That's pretty

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Speaker 3: much us on weekend Sport for Today, quickly looking ahead

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Speaker 3: to tomorrow's show. Dreadful news this week the passing of

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Speaker 3: Shane Christi, former Tasman muck or captain New Zealand Moldy

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Speaker 3: representative Highlander as well and Super Rugby winner in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 3: He died this week and it's once again brought into

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Speaker 3: sharp focus the impact of head injuries on rugby player's

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Speaker 3: post their playing days. Alex Popham has led the charge

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Speaker 3: from a Welsh point of view on this particular issue.

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Speaker 3: He's going to join us after midday tomorrow. I want

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Speaker 3: to get some thoughts from Alex Popham on what we

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Speaker 3: can do, whether those who matter are listening and can

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Speaker 3: to get your thoughts as well, and also tomorrow after

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Speaker 3: two and extended chat with one of the motorsport greats

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Speaker 3: of supercars, Mark Winterbottom, Bathurst Champion, Supercars champion and champion

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Speaker 3: of a bloke as well. He's got a book out.

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Speaker 3: Going to chat to Mark winter Bottom tomorrow on the

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Speaker 3: show too. After three, Tim Beverage huge thanks to Anny

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Speaker 3: McDonald's producing the show as always, what are we going

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Speaker 3: out with today?

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Speaker 16: Well, Poney, we've done very well to get through three

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Speaker 16: hours without addressing the shovers sports, massive story, massive crossover

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Speaker 16: that happened this week, so I'm going to ruin that

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Speaker 16: now obviously. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey are announcing their

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Speaker 16: engagement this week, So I have to go out with

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Speaker 16: some Taylor Swift, don't I. When the world of shovers

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Speaker 16: and sports crossover, you sort of can't can't ignore it,

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Speaker 16: can we? We very nearly got there. I'm not very

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Speaker 16: we very nearly did all right?

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Speaker 3: Enjoy you afternoon, See you guys tomorrow midday.

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Speaker 26: I got.

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Speaker 8: A friend.

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Speaker 31: If you ever come in around a faith in yours.

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Speaker 31: When I met you, Annie asked her to tell.

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Speaker 5: I said, who you say?

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Speaker 4: I haven't feeling so lone.

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Speaker 31: A keep waiting for you, but you never comesed.

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Speaker 5: This in my head.

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Speaker 13: I know what to think.

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Speaker 19: Came now to the Crown.

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Speaker 31: Ring and said, Mary me Gulie never.

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Speaker 19: Had to be lone.

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Speaker 3: I love you and that's all though.

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Speaker 19: I'm talking to your dad.

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Speaker 8: Go pick out a.

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Speaker 10: Watcher A love.

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Speaker 19: Story, baby, just say first.

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