1 00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:12,013 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said B. 2 00:00:12,413 --> 00:00:20,853 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:20,293 --> 00:00:24,893 Speaker 2: Y take another pat. It's a trick, it is out, 4 00:00:25,253 --> 00:00:30,653 Speaker 2: The Test is over. Smokes a beauty, It. 5 00:00:30,733 --> 00:00:32,653 Speaker 3: Is out and hear you guys. 6 00:00:32,733 --> 00:00:34,733 Speaker 4: This delivery has in the music. 7 00:00:34,533 --> 00:00:39,773 Speaker 1: To Gold on the Front Foot with Brian Waddell and 8 00:00:40,013 --> 00:00:45,013 Speaker 1: Jeremy Coney powered by News Talk, said B at iHeartRadio. 9 00:00:46,533 --> 00:00:49,853 Speaker 4: Hello, welcome once again on the Front Foot. A reward 10 00:00:49,933 --> 00:00:53,253 Speaker 4: for all round us Smith and Bartson gaining Black Cats 11 00:00:53,293 --> 00:00:57,053 Speaker 4: contracts is Joe Root, England's best ever batsman and it 12 00:00:57,173 --> 00:01:00,253 Speaker 4: comes at a time that the Messiah gets another role 13 00:01:00,493 --> 00:01:05,413 Speaker 4: in England cricket. Brendon McCollum, England's white all coach boy. 14 00:01:05,573 --> 00:01:08,133 Speaker 4: England have really found a star in terms of their 15 00:01:08,693 --> 00:01:14,893 Speaker 4: haven't they. Jeremy gaddyloadds well, they certainly seemed to be 16 00:01:15,013 --> 00:01:17,813 Speaker 4: happy with his performance. 17 00:01:17,333 --> 00:01:20,733 Speaker 3: Don't they. I mean the Test side wasn't doing very 18 00:01:20,813 --> 00:01:23,333 Speaker 3: well was it when he took over? Was it one 19 00:01:23,453 --> 00:01:26,373 Speaker 3: from seventeen or something like that? They had one with 20 00:01:26,533 --> 00:01:29,813 Speaker 3: Joe Ruters cap'n. So that wasn't too hard for Brendan 21 00:01:29,893 --> 00:01:33,453 Speaker 3: to change. You'd have to say, but his you know, 22 00:01:33,613 --> 00:01:37,573 Speaker 3: the results and his style. I think they won nineteen 23 00:01:37,653 --> 00:01:41,173 Speaker 3: out of twenty eight. I think I read somewhere, So 24 00:01:41,493 --> 00:01:46,053 Speaker 3: that's all improved. And it's actually been the white ball 25 00:01:47,053 --> 00:01:50,933 Speaker 3: formats that have imploded, haven't they in England? You know, 26 00:01:51,053 --> 00:01:55,613 Speaker 3: they had that awful ODI in India where everybody beat them, 27 00:01:56,093 --> 00:01:59,093 Speaker 3: and then they had that average performance in the T twenty. 28 00:01:59,493 --> 00:02:04,413 Speaker 3: So it's kind of when McCullum originally arrived, it was 29 00:02:04,453 --> 00:02:06,493 Speaker 3: the other way around, wasn't It was the red bull 30 00:02:06,573 --> 00:02:09,733 Speaker 3: struggling and the white ball was yards that won everything 31 00:02:09,813 --> 00:02:14,013 Speaker 3: and so on. Now it's flipped on its head, so 32 00:02:15,133 --> 00:02:16,973 Speaker 3: he may see that as a chance to make a 33 00:02:17,093 --> 00:02:19,573 Speaker 3: bit of a more of an impact. And you know, 34 00:02:20,173 --> 00:02:22,733 Speaker 3: the other point I would think about that he's got 35 00:02:22,813 --> 00:02:26,853 Speaker 3: the job at a time when Morgan's team as being 36 00:02:27,053 --> 00:02:31,173 Speaker 3: kind of dismantled, isn't it. It's being seven and renewed. 37 00:02:31,973 --> 00:02:35,573 Speaker 3: So you know, Morgan's out and Maine Ali's out, and 38 00:02:35,693 --> 00:02:40,573 Speaker 3: Bearstow and Jason Roy and that bowler, Liam Plunkett, they're 39 00:02:40,653 --> 00:02:43,653 Speaker 3: all gone and in becoming all those new guys we 40 00:02:43,813 --> 00:02:46,533 Speaker 3: talked about last week, you know, Bethel and Moseley and 41 00:02:46,653 --> 00:02:51,773 Speaker 3: Jordan Cox and all that lot, so you know he 42 00:02:52,173 --> 00:02:54,733 Speaker 3: may help Josh Butler as well. Josh Butler, I don't know, 43 00:02:54,813 --> 00:02:56,773 Speaker 3: how how do you see him? I always see him 44 00:02:56,773 --> 00:02:59,413 Speaker 3: as a wee bit burdened as a captain. 45 00:02:59,973 --> 00:03:02,213 Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't look as though he's enjoying himself to 46 00:03:02,293 --> 00:03:04,253 Speaker 4: a certain extent. He does when he's in and runs 47 00:03:04,653 --> 00:03:08,613 Speaker 4: and being able to accelerate the team performance. But you know, 48 00:03:08,693 --> 00:03:12,093 Speaker 4: there seemed to be just a sort of a mismatch 49 00:03:12,133 --> 00:03:15,693 Speaker 4: between he and Mott, the previous coach, and he may 50 00:03:15,813 --> 00:03:18,053 Speaker 4: well be able to fit in because I think he's 51 00:03:18,093 --> 00:03:21,333 Speaker 4: the McCullum style, isn't he. He's a go get him, 52 00:03:21,613 --> 00:03:25,733 Speaker 4: take every opportunity you can, don't be scared. And I 53 00:03:25,813 --> 00:03:29,093 Speaker 4: think he's a McCullum type player, isn't he. 54 00:03:29,373 --> 00:03:33,013 Speaker 3: I think by instinct he is, and that he's overburdened 55 00:03:33,053 --> 00:03:35,573 Speaker 3: a little bit by all the all the figures and 56 00:03:35,653 --> 00:03:39,733 Speaker 3: all the you know, suggestions and so on that might 57 00:03:39,853 --> 00:03:43,253 Speaker 3: come his way. And I think Brendan will allow him 58 00:03:43,293 --> 00:03:45,253 Speaker 3: just free him up a bit, don't you think. And 59 00:03:45,613 --> 00:03:48,773 Speaker 3: the other thing. The other thing, I think that some 60 00:03:48,973 --> 00:03:51,733 Speaker 3: of the players, you know, that they will now with 61 00:03:51,893 --> 00:03:55,653 Speaker 3: him being white and red ball. They'll get a common message, 62 00:03:55,773 --> 00:04:00,573 Speaker 3: you know, a constant kind of similar message over both 63 00:04:00,653 --> 00:04:04,453 Speaker 3: the red ball and the white ball, and players quite 64 00:04:04,693 --> 00:04:08,893 Speaker 3: like that. When you do get you know, say, the 65 00:04:09,013 --> 00:04:10,893 Speaker 3: red ball are going really well on the white ball, 66 00:04:10,973 --> 00:04:14,373 Speaker 3: aren't You're always kind of got players looking over the fence, 67 00:04:15,293 --> 00:04:17,373 Speaker 3: you know, saying, gee, I wish I was in there, 68 00:04:18,333 --> 00:04:22,333 Speaker 3: and what's wrong with our one? You know, comparing coaches. 69 00:04:22,933 --> 00:04:25,693 Speaker 3: So that will stop all that. I think the only 70 00:04:25,853 --> 00:04:29,053 Speaker 3: question is, of course the old one is a schedule 71 00:04:29,133 --> 00:04:31,173 Speaker 3: too tough? Will it allow it? Will he is it 72 00:04:31,293 --> 00:04:36,173 Speaker 3: too much? And will he need somebody else, you know 73 00:04:36,333 --> 00:04:37,413 Speaker 3: to help him? At times? 74 00:04:37,933 --> 00:04:40,573 Speaker 4: I think he's got fairly good back up. They seem 75 00:04:40,613 --> 00:04:42,053 Speaker 4: to have a lot of people around well, I've got 76 00:04:42,053 --> 00:04:43,973 Speaker 4: a lot of people around the Test team, and they 77 00:04:44,013 --> 00:04:46,333 Speaker 4: seem to have a lot of coaching and support staff 78 00:04:46,613 --> 00:04:49,213 Speaker 4: around their white ball team. Gee, we've done a good 79 00:04:49,293 --> 00:04:52,493 Speaker 4: job for overseas coaches, haven't we. You know, we've we've 80 00:04:52,533 --> 00:04:55,773 Speaker 4: shunted Brendan McCullum off. We didn't want him. We've got 81 00:04:55,853 --> 00:04:59,533 Speaker 4: rid of Daniel Vittori. We didn't want him. Jeetan Patel, well, 82 00:04:59,613 --> 00:05:01,853 Speaker 4: he was here and then shot back to England as 83 00:05:01,933 --> 00:05:06,333 Speaker 4: quickly as he retired, Stephen Flemm making millions of the 84 00:05:06,413 --> 00:05:09,973 Speaker 4: coach and we've got a great job for world cricket. 85 00:05:09,933 --> 00:05:14,333 Speaker 3: Don't it, Shane Bond. Yeah exactly. So it's been spinners 86 00:05:14,413 --> 00:05:18,373 Speaker 3: and fast bowlers and batsmen and hitters. It's been all sorts, 87 00:05:18,453 --> 00:05:18,773 Speaker 3: hasn't it. 88 00:05:18,893 --> 00:05:20,213 Speaker 4: And I hope they do. 89 00:05:20,893 --> 00:05:23,293 Speaker 3: I've said that before. I hope they do in the 90 00:05:23,453 --> 00:05:26,093 Speaker 3: end come back. And certainly, to be fair, I think 91 00:05:26,173 --> 00:05:28,413 Speaker 3: Fleming and Bond have done a little bit at times, 92 00:05:28,493 --> 00:05:32,653 Speaker 3: haven't and maybe for Tory but with particular tournaments. But yeah, 93 00:05:32,933 --> 00:05:35,693 Speaker 3: you're right. It's part of the player sort of moving 94 00:05:35,773 --> 00:05:37,853 Speaker 3: around and coaches move around too. 95 00:05:38,533 --> 00:05:43,613 Speaker 4: Yeah, I censored under you know, the current structure of 96 00:05:43,813 --> 00:05:47,893 Speaker 4: a World cricket that their skills and other skills. You know, 97 00:05:48,013 --> 00:05:52,893 Speaker 4: we look overseas to bring people into contract for coaching 98 00:05:53,013 --> 00:05:56,253 Speaker 4: jobs and so forth, so you know, it's the current way. 99 00:05:56,453 --> 00:05:58,213 Speaker 4: We were warned of that and it was pretty obviously 100 00:05:58,333 --> 00:06:01,493 Speaker 4: coming to the fore. So, you know, interesting to see 101 00:06:01,693 --> 00:06:04,253 Speaker 4: McCollum putting his feet up on the stand. He sits 102 00:06:04,293 --> 00:06:06,573 Speaker 4: in those nice comfortable chairs as he watches the game, 103 00:06:06,893 --> 00:06:09,933 Speaker 4: doesn't look too worried about what's going on in the world, 104 00:06:10,013 --> 00:06:13,893 Speaker 4: feed up and enjoying it chatting with these team players. 105 00:06:14,213 --> 00:06:17,773 Speaker 4: Good luck to him. Contracts well, we've talked about contracts 106 00:06:17,813 --> 00:06:23,493 Speaker 4: a bit recently. Nathan Smith and Josh Clarkson have received 107 00:06:23,773 --> 00:06:28,293 Speaker 4: contracts now they are available after Conway and Allan opted 108 00:06:28,333 --> 00:06:33,133 Speaker 4: out of central contracts. Smith and Clarkson all round US 109 00:06:33,573 --> 00:06:38,293 Speaker 4: Conway and Alan batsman. Nathan Smith said his response to 110 00:06:38,893 --> 00:06:41,053 Speaker 4: the offer from New Zealand cook Att took him no 111 00:06:41,213 --> 00:06:44,373 Speaker 4: time at all to agree to after a tough season 112 00:06:44,413 --> 00:06:47,733 Speaker 4: with Worcestershire. He had to come home early because of injury. 113 00:06:48,373 --> 00:06:48,573 Speaker 5: Yeah. 114 00:06:48,933 --> 00:06:50,973 Speaker 6: I think I played eight four day games and ten 115 00:06:51,013 --> 00:06:52,813 Speaker 6: weeks or something like that, so on the back of 116 00:06:52,853 --> 00:06:54,693 Speaker 6: a home summer, so it was Yeah, the workload was high. 117 00:06:54,773 --> 00:06:57,693 Speaker 6: That such a valuable experience. I loved my time, loved 118 00:06:57,733 --> 00:06:59,093 Speaker 6: my time there and be keen to go back. 119 00:06:59,173 --> 00:07:01,653 Speaker 4: So you must have come home or come away from 120 00:07:01,733 --> 00:07:04,973 Speaker 4: that pretty happy with what you achieved in terms of performances. 121 00:07:05,253 --> 00:07:06,973 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think just sort of 122 00:07:07,013 --> 00:07:09,693 Speaker 6: the form just rolled on from the home summer. Really, 123 00:07:09,693 --> 00:07:13,093 Speaker 6: you know, my body was in good shape. Just love 124 00:07:13,173 --> 00:07:14,533 Speaker 6: playing for them as well. They a great bunch of 125 00:07:14,573 --> 00:07:16,133 Speaker 6: guys and that sort of goes a long way as 126 00:07:16,173 --> 00:07:18,213 Speaker 6: well when you go into a new environment and they're 127 00:07:18,213 --> 00:07:21,613 Speaker 6: good people. So yeah, just just love the experience. 128 00:07:21,693 --> 00:07:24,693 Speaker 4: Really, you talked about your body being in good shape. 129 00:07:24,693 --> 00:07:26,493 Speaker 4: You've had problems in the last few years, haven't you. 130 00:07:26,653 --> 00:07:30,333 Speaker 4: So you're really getting over a major injury break, didn't you. 131 00:07:30,573 --> 00:07:30,733 Speaker 3: Yeah. 132 00:07:30,733 --> 00:07:33,333 Speaker 6: I suppose the last couple of years, barring the last 133 00:07:33,373 --> 00:07:35,773 Speaker 6: six months, the eight en months before that were they 134 00:07:35,813 --> 00:07:38,213 Speaker 6: were challenging. You know, a couple of back stress fractures. 135 00:07:39,773 --> 00:07:41,813 Speaker 6: It's quite testing times, but I think through that you 136 00:07:42,133 --> 00:07:43,733 Speaker 6: sort of learn a lot about yourself. It gives you 137 00:07:43,733 --> 00:07:46,213 Speaker 6: a little bit of perspective as well, and it's a 138 00:07:46,253 --> 00:07:47,853 Speaker 6: hell of a lot better playing than I spent a 139 00:07:47,893 --> 00:07:49,293 Speaker 6: lot of time sitting on the couch watching a lot 140 00:07:49,293 --> 00:07:52,013 Speaker 6: of guys play. So it's nice to you know, have 141 00:07:52,093 --> 00:07:55,053 Speaker 6: a sort of a prolonged period of playing consistently, and 142 00:07:55,493 --> 00:07:57,453 Speaker 6: you know, I think that's probably it's probably why the 143 00:07:58,013 --> 00:08:00,493 Speaker 6: results are so good, you know, just playing all the time. 144 00:08:00,773 --> 00:08:03,373 Speaker 4: Can you pinpoint any area of your game where you 145 00:08:03,453 --> 00:08:05,653 Speaker 4: think you've improved or have tried to improve? 146 00:08:06,813 --> 00:08:09,293 Speaker 6: I think probably just on the back of on the 147 00:08:09,373 --> 00:08:11,253 Speaker 6: on the back of being fitter and stronger. I think 148 00:08:11,293 --> 00:08:13,733 Speaker 6: I've probably gained a little bit of pace, and the 149 00:08:13,813 --> 00:08:16,573 Speaker 6: consistency of the pace is there through sort of second 150 00:08:16,573 --> 00:08:21,253 Speaker 6: and third spells. I think that's probably why I've started 151 00:08:21,293 --> 00:08:23,093 Speaker 6: taking a few more wickets. Maybe it's just that consistent 152 00:08:23,133 --> 00:08:25,293 Speaker 6: pace throughout the day has helped. 153 00:08:27,253 --> 00:08:27,493 Speaker 3: For me. 154 00:08:27,573 --> 00:08:29,933 Speaker 6: I think moving forward, I think it's probably probably the 155 00:08:29,973 --> 00:08:32,613 Speaker 6: consistency in the batting that's gonna It's gonna take me 156 00:08:32,693 --> 00:08:34,733 Speaker 6: to the next level. So that's been a big focus 157 00:08:34,773 --> 00:08:35,773 Speaker 6: over the last twelve months. 158 00:08:36,213 --> 00:08:38,573 Speaker 4: And the other thing is that's probably a tough question 159 00:08:38,733 --> 00:08:41,893 Speaker 4: to answer. Do you have a preference for the format 160 00:08:41,973 --> 00:08:45,733 Speaker 4: of the game or is it just all your preference 161 00:08:45,773 --> 00:08:46,813 Speaker 4: in terms of every format. 162 00:08:47,013 --> 00:08:49,613 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I love I love crickets, so all formats 163 00:08:49,653 --> 00:08:51,853 Speaker 6: are great. They have their own little niches. But for me, 164 00:08:51,973 --> 00:08:54,093 Speaker 6: I'm a purist, so I love the long format of 165 00:08:54,133 --> 00:08:56,973 Speaker 6: the game. It's probably a format that I've had the 166 00:08:57,013 --> 00:09:00,333 Speaker 6: most success in so far. So that doesn't say I'm 167 00:09:00,373 --> 00:09:02,933 Speaker 6: not I'm not trying to become an all three format player. 168 00:09:02,933 --> 00:09:06,573 Speaker 6: I definitely think I can play all three formats. So yeah, 169 00:09:06,653 --> 00:09:09,413 Speaker 6: for me, it's just about trying to stay on the park, 170 00:09:09,493 --> 00:09:13,373 Speaker 6: stay fit and hopefully perform for whoever I'm playing for. Yeah, 171 00:09:13,373 --> 00:09:16,253 Speaker 6: I think I think probably had a strong domestic summer 172 00:09:16,333 --> 00:09:20,173 Speaker 6: last year and then continued continued again for Worcester over 173 00:09:20,213 --> 00:09:22,813 Speaker 6: the over the winter. So probably just the form in 174 00:09:22,853 --> 00:09:25,973 Speaker 6: the last twelve months. I'd say that's that's the goal anyway, 175 00:09:26,013 --> 00:09:27,973 Speaker 6: to try try about seven and a Test team. I 176 00:09:28,093 --> 00:09:31,413 Speaker 6: think what sets me apart from from other seamers potentially 177 00:09:31,533 --> 00:09:33,813 Speaker 6: having that batting there that can add a little bit 178 00:09:33,853 --> 00:09:37,653 Speaker 6: balance to a side. So I'm always going to try 179 00:09:37,733 --> 00:09:39,933 Speaker 6: work on that and get as good as I can 180 00:09:39,973 --> 00:09:41,653 Speaker 6: with my batting to try to help the team. 181 00:09:42,133 --> 00:09:43,733 Speaker 4: You took the new ball for what do you do? 182 00:09:43,813 --> 00:09:46,133 Speaker 4: For Wellington? You took the new ball for what's you do? 183 00:09:46,173 --> 00:09:49,053 Speaker 4: You see yourself essentially as a new ball bowler or 184 00:09:49,653 --> 00:09:54,373 Speaker 4: an all around who bats. You know, people put in categories, 185 00:09:54,413 --> 00:09:54,693 Speaker 4: don't they. 186 00:09:55,733 --> 00:09:57,573 Speaker 6: I suppose I try not to categorize it too much. 187 00:09:58,413 --> 00:10:00,293 Speaker 6: I feel like I've got a little bit more skill 188 00:10:00,333 --> 00:10:02,253 Speaker 6: with the ball then just bowling with a new ball. 189 00:10:03,973 --> 00:10:05,293 Speaker 6: I like to take the new ball. I think it's 190 00:10:05,293 --> 00:10:06,973 Speaker 6: a real strength of mine, but I think I can 191 00:10:07,013 --> 00:10:08,813 Speaker 6: also add impact with the old ball as well, which 192 00:10:08,813 --> 00:10:10,653 Speaker 6: I think is going to be important for me moving 193 00:10:10,693 --> 00:10:12,093 Speaker 6: forward to intetional cricket. 194 00:10:12,693 --> 00:10:16,053 Speaker 4: Former black Caps bowling coach Shane Jurgenson, who's now the 195 00:10:16,133 --> 00:10:20,013 Speaker 4: Wellington coach of Smith's side as well placed to assess 196 00:10:20,413 --> 00:10:23,093 Speaker 4: the pace bowlers a bit of he and he applauds 197 00:10:23,413 --> 00:10:24,373 Speaker 4: the black Caps choice. 198 00:10:24,573 --> 00:10:27,733 Speaker 7: It's amazing. It's a credit to create Wellington and the 199 00:10:27,813 --> 00:10:29,693 Speaker 7: hard work that's gone on behind the scenes over a 200 00:10:29,733 --> 00:10:32,493 Speaker 7: long period of time and you know, fantastic for Nathan 201 00:10:32,573 --> 00:10:36,933 Speaker 7: and to have that opportunity for him. It's been a 202 00:10:37,013 --> 00:10:39,493 Speaker 7: long road for Nathan. I played first class cricket for 203 00:10:39,573 --> 00:10:41,933 Speaker 7: quite a while now with O Targo and what he's 204 00:10:41,973 --> 00:10:44,173 Speaker 7: done when he's come to Wellington and the opportunity he's 205 00:10:44,213 --> 00:10:47,693 Speaker 7: had a lot of support and for him personally to 206 00:10:47,733 --> 00:10:50,333 Speaker 7: come back from a serious back injury, his stress fracture 207 00:10:50,373 --> 00:10:52,853 Speaker 7: of the operation and to have the impact he had 208 00:10:52,893 --> 00:10:55,613 Speaker 7: for us last year was you know, a nice reward 209 00:10:55,653 --> 00:10:55,893 Speaker 7: for him. 210 00:10:56,293 --> 00:10:56,413 Speaker 5: Oh. 211 00:10:56,533 --> 00:10:59,693 Speaker 7: I think for him attention to detail. He's quite an 212 00:10:59,693 --> 00:11:03,333 Speaker 7: open young man to learning, which is good. You know, 213 00:11:03,533 --> 00:11:06,813 Speaker 7: tough boy from the South and he loves the opportunity 214 00:11:06,813 --> 00:11:09,573 Speaker 7: to learn and develop his game. As you say, he's 215 00:11:09,613 --> 00:11:11,693 Speaker 7: basically he isn't all round it and can provide an 216 00:11:11,693 --> 00:11:15,213 Speaker 7: impact with the ball, with the bat and also in 217 00:11:15,293 --> 00:11:18,533 Speaker 7: the field he's lightning across the turf trying to catching 218 00:11:18,933 --> 00:11:21,693 Speaker 7: and fielding the ball retrieving it. So yeah, he can 219 00:11:21,773 --> 00:11:24,133 Speaker 7: certainly have a player that can have an impact and 220 00:11:24,853 --> 00:11:29,773 Speaker 7: create an opportunity for the team. That's to make a 221 00:11:30,493 --> 00:11:32,933 Speaker 7: position of where the team might be in a difficult 222 00:11:32,973 --> 00:11:35,413 Speaker 7: position and he can make make a difference in a match. 223 00:11:35,493 --> 00:11:37,533 Speaker 7: So that's a type of exciting cricket he can bring 224 00:11:37,613 --> 00:11:38,013 Speaker 7: to the game. 225 00:11:39,013 --> 00:11:41,653 Speaker 4: It's a new era for fast ballers in New Zealand 226 00:11:41,693 --> 00:11:45,213 Speaker 4: now the older group is starting to decline a little bit, 227 00:11:45,293 --> 00:11:48,013 Speaker 4: We've got some new players. Nathan was talking about one 228 00:11:48,013 --> 00:11:50,613 Speaker 4: of the things that being a watershowers being able to 229 00:11:50,693 --> 00:11:53,933 Speaker 4: increase his pace. Have you noticed that? Is he quick enough? 230 00:11:53,973 --> 00:11:54,733 Speaker 4: Can he get quicker? 231 00:11:55,213 --> 00:11:55,373 Speaker 5: Oh? 232 00:11:55,453 --> 00:11:57,853 Speaker 7: Yeah, it certainly increase that. I think it's something he's 233 00:11:57,853 --> 00:11:59,933 Speaker 7: been working on the last twelve months, is attacking the 234 00:12:00,053 --> 00:12:04,893 Speaker 7: crease almost like taking himself out of that the role 235 00:12:05,013 --> 00:12:08,653 Speaker 7: of all being seen as maybe a swing bowler into 236 00:12:09,133 --> 00:12:11,573 Speaker 7: potentially being able to bowl in all different types of 237 00:12:11,653 --> 00:12:13,893 Speaker 7: the not just new ball. And I think that's certainly 238 00:12:14,013 --> 00:12:16,453 Speaker 7: something in him and I have spoken about, and he 239 00:12:16,573 --> 00:12:19,293 Speaker 7: has a strong desire to being able to bowl at 240 00:12:19,293 --> 00:12:21,093 Speaker 7: all parts of the innings. 241 00:12:21,133 --> 00:12:22,453 Speaker 5: And I think for us in the. 242 00:12:22,453 --> 00:12:24,693 Speaker 7: Plunket chieerd last year, there are certainly times where he 243 00:12:25,373 --> 00:12:28,373 Speaker 7: up the ante and bold short short deliveries, short ball 244 00:12:28,453 --> 00:12:30,613 Speaker 7: plan to try and create a bit of doubt with 245 00:12:30,653 --> 00:12:32,453 Speaker 7: the batter, and he certainly had an impact. 246 00:12:32,653 --> 00:12:34,973 Speaker 4: You look around the world and the international teams that 247 00:12:35,013 --> 00:12:37,853 Speaker 4: are looking for faster bottles and like Chicken really ball 248 00:12:37,933 --> 00:12:41,493 Speaker 4: fast and New Zealand have got a couple on the 249 00:12:41,613 --> 00:12:44,733 Speaker 4: new breed and he could join them with that ability. 250 00:12:45,093 --> 00:12:48,253 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think for him, Yeah, he certainly worked on 251 00:12:48,333 --> 00:12:54,013 Speaker 7: his fitness, attacking the wicket, getting stronger. He slides onto 252 00:12:54,013 --> 00:12:55,493 Speaker 7: the bat a bit quicker than you think, and he's 253 00:12:55,533 --> 00:12:58,053 Speaker 7: got some really good skills and I think with Nathan 254 00:12:58,133 --> 00:13:02,013 Speaker 7: what you can have is someone that for us he 255 00:13:02,253 --> 00:13:04,093 Speaker 7: was right up there with one of our best T 256 00:13:04,253 --> 00:13:08,733 Speaker 7: twenty bowlers last year and that's the ability that he has. Hopefully, 257 00:13:09,133 --> 00:13:11,373 Speaker 7: you know he will continue to grow and keep learning 258 00:13:11,453 --> 00:13:13,893 Speaker 7: and he's always curious wants to get better, So there's 259 00:13:13,933 --> 00:13:15,973 Speaker 7: no doubt he's going to be a strong contender for 260 00:13:16,053 --> 00:13:17,573 Speaker 7: all formatsman's future. 261 00:13:17,773 --> 00:13:20,253 Speaker 4: For of the seams that are developing now. 262 00:13:21,053 --> 00:13:26,453 Speaker 7: I think, you know my role, there's some really good, exciting, 263 00:13:27,533 --> 00:13:32,853 Speaker 7: exciting young fast bowlers. I think there's certainly going to 264 00:13:32,933 --> 00:13:35,733 Speaker 7: be opportunities for these guys. And to see another one 265 00:13:35,813 --> 00:13:40,093 Speaker 7: of our guys, Ben Sears with his opportunities and there's 266 00:13:40,093 --> 00:13:42,293 Speaker 7: been a number of players over a long period of time, 267 00:13:42,613 --> 00:13:45,653 Speaker 7: Jacob Duffy, and there's another one that comes to mind 268 00:13:45,693 --> 00:13:47,653 Speaker 7: as Ben List. You know, there's going to be more 269 00:13:47,653 --> 00:13:50,933 Speaker 7: opportunities for these guys and opportunity for them to step 270 00:13:51,013 --> 00:13:54,413 Speaker 7: up into those roles. And look, I think it's sort 271 00:13:54,413 --> 00:13:57,893 Speaker 7: of you know, no doubt you've also got Kyle Jamison. 272 00:13:57,933 --> 00:14:02,173 Speaker 7: So there's still a number of quality, high quality fast bowlers, 273 00:14:02,293 --> 00:14:05,453 Speaker 7: and you know that's the balance of the opportunities and 274 00:14:05,693 --> 00:14:07,733 Speaker 7: the roles that are around for the guys is to 275 00:14:07,773 --> 00:14:11,613 Speaker 7: step up for the team. And yeah, so's certainly going 276 00:14:11,693 --> 00:14:14,813 Speaker 7: to be still competition for the spots for you know, 277 00:14:14,893 --> 00:14:16,333 Speaker 7: the black Ops and years to come with him. 278 00:14:17,213 --> 00:14:21,453 Speaker 4: So that response by Jergensen gives an indication of selector 279 00:14:21,533 --> 00:14:24,653 Speaker 4: thinking to opening batsmen out middle order all around has 280 00:14:24,693 --> 00:14:28,773 Speaker 4: included white ball thinking, I think for the future or 281 00:14:28,893 --> 00:14:31,173 Speaker 4: is a test match thinking for some of these players. 282 00:14:31,613 --> 00:14:35,613 Speaker 3: What do you think, Jerry Well, it certainly seems as o' 283 00:14:35,693 --> 00:14:38,533 Speaker 3: clarkson has already played a few ODI's and te tweeties, 284 00:14:38,533 --> 00:14:42,213 Speaker 3: hasn't he. It looks as though New Zealand liked to 285 00:14:42,373 --> 00:14:45,613 Speaker 3: introduce their even their Test players through the white ball 286 00:14:45,733 --> 00:14:52,813 Speaker 3: formats and get them used to international level. I yeah, 287 00:14:53,093 --> 00:14:56,373 Speaker 3: I don't know Josh Clarkson quite so well. I don't 288 00:14:56,413 --> 00:14:58,093 Speaker 3: know either of them quite as well as you do. 289 00:14:59,013 --> 00:15:02,853 Speaker 3: I looked up their figures. Smith looks a more of 290 00:15:03,173 --> 00:15:06,653 Speaker 3: a bowling prospect. He impressed me with the way he spoke. 291 00:15:06,933 --> 00:15:10,373 Speaker 3: Was he's aware that, you know, he can use the 292 00:15:10,453 --> 00:15:13,573 Speaker 3: ball at different times. In other words, he can use 293 00:15:13,613 --> 00:15:16,293 Speaker 3: the open the bowling with the new ball. He's done 294 00:15:16,333 --> 00:15:18,973 Speaker 3: that for Wellington and Worcestershire, hasn't he. He can bowl 295 00:15:19,093 --> 00:15:22,373 Speaker 3: first change. Then he said in that interview that he 296 00:15:22,533 --> 00:15:25,413 Speaker 3: was working on the old ball, which is a good thing. 297 00:15:25,573 --> 00:15:29,013 Speaker 3: You know. He's thinking about what can I do to 298 00:15:29,173 --> 00:15:32,573 Speaker 3: add to my game in order to prepare for the 299 00:15:32,693 --> 00:15:35,533 Speaker 3: you know what's up in front of me. He knows 300 00:15:35,613 --> 00:15:37,333 Speaker 3: that he's got to do more as a batsman at 301 00:15:37,413 --> 00:15:40,453 Speaker 3: number seven, he said, So I like all that that 302 00:15:40,733 --> 00:15:45,213 Speaker 3: that he's a thoughtful player making himself useful. And when 303 00:15:45,253 --> 00:15:47,253 Speaker 3: I looked at his figures, a couple of things stood 304 00:15:47,293 --> 00:15:50,613 Speaker 3: out for me. This is Nathan Smith. The first thing 305 00:15:50,773 --> 00:15:55,213 Speaker 3: is he's got five wicket bags and first class cricket 306 00:15:55,813 --> 00:16:00,613 Speaker 3: six times. Now that's that's a man who can you know, 307 00:16:01,173 --> 00:16:04,453 Speaker 3: who can change a game. You know, when you take 308 00:16:04,493 --> 00:16:07,853 Speaker 3: a five wicket bag, you know he's got that ability. 309 00:16:07,893 --> 00:16:11,533 Speaker 3: He's got four wickets four times as well. He's getting 310 00:16:11,533 --> 00:16:15,613 Speaker 3: a wicket ut just every just over nine overs, and 311 00:16:16,373 --> 00:16:19,853 Speaker 3: so you know that's that's a good component. I think 312 00:16:19,933 --> 00:16:25,893 Speaker 3: he's bowling. We need a middle order seema who can 313 00:16:25,973 --> 00:16:29,733 Speaker 3: hold a bat. Now there's batting. He's had eighty two 314 00:16:29,893 --> 00:16:34,093 Speaker 3: first class innings and he's got thirteen fifties. Now to me, 315 00:16:34,173 --> 00:16:37,013 Speaker 3: he's good. So I've got one hundred, but thirteen fifties 316 00:16:37,213 --> 00:16:40,893 Speaker 3: to me, that's a fifty every six innings and a bit. 317 00:16:42,053 --> 00:16:44,853 Speaker 3: I can hold a bat, and I can get them 318 00:16:44,893 --> 00:16:48,253 Speaker 3: in different situations. It says thirteen of them, and I 319 00:16:48,333 --> 00:16:50,173 Speaker 3: can get them at different times in the game with 320 00:16:50,293 --> 00:16:55,333 Speaker 3: different conditions you know, and different bowlers. Those are all 321 00:16:55,573 --> 00:16:58,333 Speaker 3: things I think are quite positive about Nathan Smith. He's 322 00:16:58,413 --> 00:17:00,853 Speaker 3: not there yet not the finished product. No one's saying 323 00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:04,213 Speaker 3: he is, but those are good signs. 324 00:17:05,493 --> 00:17:08,453 Speaker 4: Yeah, those stats to me, as you say, show a 325 00:17:08,533 --> 00:17:12,493 Speaker 4: player who can latten different circumstances and you want somebody 326 00:17:12,573 --> 00:17:15,573 Speaker 4: who can hit quick runs if required. He can do that. 327 00:17:16,093 --> 00:17:18,813 Speaker 4: You want someone who can play a solid innings as 328 00:17:18,893 --> 00:17:21,413 Speaker 4: a support. And to me, he fits into the bill 329 00:17:21,573 --> 00:17:25,533 Speaker 4: of say something like Santner Embraceville, somebody who could bat 330 00:17:25,573 --> 00:17:27,613 Speaker 4: at Test level. And the fact that he's talking about 331 00:17:27,653 --> 00:17:31,773 Speaker 4: improving his batting to be a number seven batsman gives 332 00:17:31,813 --> 00:17:36,293 Speaker 4: the indication that that's the way he's thinking. And you know, yeah, 333 00:17:36,333 --> 00:17:39,093 Speaker 4: you're right, he's not the finished product. But he does 334 00:17:39,453 --> 00:17:42,533 Speaker 4: hit the cricket headlines at times, doesn't he And you 335 00:17:42,613 --> 00:17:44,853 Speaker 4: know he does change the course of a game and 336 00:17:45,413 --> 00:17:46,813 Speaker 4: they are all important features. 337 00:17:47,133 --> 00:17:51,813 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, last game he played, you know, and in England, 338 00:17:52,013 --> 00:17:54,533 Speaker 3: I think it was against Durham, I saw he got 339 00:17:54,573 --> 00:17:57,453 Speaker 3: two lots of four wickets and I just quickly flipped 340 00:17:57,493 --> 00:17:59,773 Speaker 3: open the paper to have a look at it. And 341 00:17:59,813 --> 00:18:03,933 Speaker 3: he got Alex Lees twice. So there's an England opener. 342 00:18:04,413 --> 00:18:07,613 Speaker 3: He got Beddington, that fellow who's from South Africa who 343 00:18:07,653 --> 00:18:10,973 Speaker 3: came out here just last year and he got Ben 344 00:18:11,093 --> 00:18:14,613 Speaker 3: Stokes who was playing. So he gets good players out 345 00:18:15,693 --> 00:18:18,333 Speaker 3: obviously with the new ball, getting those top orders, so 346 00:18:18,493 --> 00:18:20,853 Speaker 3: that's all good. And he got a fifty one not 347 00:18:21,013 --> 00:18:24,973 Speaker 3: out against naturally. How many New Zealanders are playing once? 348 00:18:25,693 --> 00:18:30,573 Speaker 3: I mean he was playing I think against nottingham at 349 00:18:30,613 --> 00:18:33,653 Speaker 3: trent Bridge. This was a T twenty, his last T 350 00:18:33,813 --> 00:18:37,653 Speaker 3: twenty match. He came in. Worcestershire who he plays for, 351 00:18:37,813 --> 00:18:41,453 Speaker 3: were fifty eight for six and he got fifty one 352 00:18:41,613 --> 00:18:43,493 Speaker 3: not out and got them through to one hundred and 353 00:18:43,573 --> 00:18:49,093 Speaker 3: fifty four and then they won the match. And he 354 00:18:49,253 --> 00:18:53,413 Speaker 3: was playing against Ben Lester for Nottinghamshire who got two 355 00:18:53,493 --> 00:18:58,013 Speaker 3: for twenty and Will Young also both those guys from 356 00:18:58,053 --> 00:19:00,653 Speaker 3: New Zealand and Will Young got the top score for 357 00:19:00,773 --> 00:19:06,853 Speaker 3: Nots twenty five. They are good signs different formats responding 358 00:19:06,933 --> 00:19:08,133 Speaker 3: at the first class level. 359 00:19:08,453 --> 00:19:10,773 Speaker 4: I've been through a list of the county teams and 360 00:19:10,853 --> 00:19:13,493 Speaker 4: I haven't got all the players we've played throughout the year, 361 00:19:13,853 --> 00:19:16,453 Speaker 4: but so far I've got a list of twenty seven 362 00:19:16,773 --> 00:19:20,053 Speaker 4: New Zealand players in England this year playing for counties, 363 00:19:20,333 --> 00:19:23,933 Speaker 4: and that doesn't really minor county yep. I mean there's 364 00:19:23,933 --> 00:19:29,293 Speaker 4: a young bowler from christ Church. Kendry player Fraser Sheet 365 00:19:29,573 --> 00:19:31,693 Speaker 4: who has had a game for Glamorgan. I think he 366 00:19:31,733 --> 00:19:34,693 Speaker 4: played in the last round for Glamorgan. Not one of 367 00:19:34,733 --> 00:19:37,693 Speaker 4: the top counties, but they're getting experience and that level. 368 00:19:38,053 --> 00:19:41,133 Speaker 4: And you know the names that are there. You will 369 00:19:41,253 --> 00:19:44,493 Speaker 4: know Wagner's playing, Tom Bruce, Jimmy Neisham's had a game, 370 00:19:45,733 --> 00:19:49,573 Speaker 4: Phillips has been over there, Ravendra has been there playing 371 00:19:49,613 --> 00:19:52,133 Speaker 4: a form of the game for sides over there. But 372 00:19:52,293 --> 00:19:54,773 Speaker 4: names you might not hear. James Hartshorn who played for 373 00:19:54,853 --> 00:19:57,973 Speaker 4: Wellington and the Plunket Shield. Logan van Beek has just 374 00:19:58,053 --> 00:20:01,893 Speaker 4: taken up a contractor Worcestershire and place at. Nathan Smith 375 00:20:03,093 --> 00:20:06,773 Speaker 4: and some of these young players Zach Fuchs. Michael Ray, 376 00:20:06,893 --> 00:20:10,533 Speaker 4: bowling from down in the South Island, has also been 377 00:20:11,373 --> 00:20:15,213 Speaker 4: playing at Warwickshire. So this is a good off season 378 00:20:15,893 --> 00:20:19,653 Speaker 4: play for these players and hopefully they're still available to play. 379 00:20:19,693 --> 00:20:22,853 Speaker 4: Forty twenty seven names. Boy, that's a lot. 380 00:20:23,133 --> 00:20:28,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so Wads Clarkson more of a white ball 381 00:20:28,413 --> 00:20:32,493 Speaker 3: player at the moment, you'd think, Yeah, the average is 382 00:20:32,493 --> 00:20:37,093 Speaker 3: about the same. Average is about the same as Nathan 383 00:20:37,173 --> 00:20:41,293 Speaker 3: Smith with the bat hasn't played as many games and 384 00:20:41,853 --> 00:20:45,813 Speaker 3: not quite the bowler twenty three first class games, thirty 385 00:20:45,893 --> 00:20:49,773 Speaker 3: two wickets, so he's getting just over one wicket a game, 386 00:20:50,893 --> 00:20:54,493 Speaker 3: whereas Nathan Smith's getting kind of, you know, nearly three. 387 00:20:54,853 --> 00:20:57,453 Speaker 4: And he's I think, you know, he's an explosive batsman. 388 00:20:57,533 --> 00:21:00,293 Speaker 4: That's what they like at at the domestic level. But 389 00:21:00,413 --> 00:21:02,173 Speaker 4: of course he's got to make that step up and 390 00:21:02,453 --> 00:21:04,613 Speaker 4: he'll get a chance this year because this white ball 391 00:21:04,653 --> 00:21:09,293 Speaker 4: cricket coming up later in the year. It may get 392 00:21:09,333 --> 00:21:13,133 Speaker 4: a chance. There are nine Test matches that New Zealand 393 00:21:13,173 --> 00:21:16,333 Speaker 4: are down to play for. There are injury possibilities, that's 394 00:21:16,493 --> 00:21:21,813 Speaker 4: always a likelihood, and one or two of those outside 395 00:21:21,893 --> 00:21:24,933 Speaker 4: the squad who have got Black Cap contracts could be 396 00:21:25,053 --> 00:21:28,293 Speaker 4: playing Test match cricket before the end of the year. 397 00:21:28,693 --> 00:21:31,453 Speaker 4: It's a tough cycle for these We don't realize, you know, 398 00:21:31,773 --> 00:21:37,533 Speaker 4: nine Test matches in three different countries, India, Sri Lanka 399 00:21:38,053 --> 00:21:40,693 Speaker 4: and then they come back home to New Zealand. They'll 400 00:21:40,733 --> 00:21:42,813 Speaker 4: have to get used to bating and bowling in New 401 00:21:42,893 --> 00:21:44,093 Speaker 4: Zealand before the end of the year. 402 00:21:44,493 --> 00:21:48,013 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well it's a good thing though. We can't have 403 00:21:48,133 --> 00:21:51,453 Speaker 3: it both ways, can we knock in the players. They're 404 00:21:51,453 --> 00:21:57,333 Speaker 3: obviously freeing up January to do the white ball formats, 405 00:21:58,173 --> 00:22:01,133 Speaker 3: so you know, but it's good they're playing tests. Brian. 406 00:22:01,533 --> 00:22:05,733 Speaker 3: We can't we can't complain and have it both ways, 407 00:22:06,493 --> 00:22:10,493 Speaker 3: you know. I was just thinking over the week, I wonder, 408 00:22:10,613 --> 00:22:13,133 Speaker 3: you know, we were talking about, oh we have been 409 00:22:13,973 --> 00:22:18,253 Speaker 3: the big issues you know in cricket, and I was 410 00:22:18,333 --> 00:22:22,613 Speaker 3: thinking about the way that the ICC spread their money around, 411 00:22:23,133 --> 00:22:24,933 Speaker 3: you know, how they give a whole lot to India 412 00:22:25,053 --> 00:22:29,413 Speaker 3: and to Australia and to England. I just wondered if 413 00:22:29,493 --> 00:22:32,693 Speaker 3: they would just change that a little bit and say, look, 414 00:22:32,813 --> 00:22:37,213 Speaker 3: New Zealand, we'll give you twelve percent of the money 415 00:22:37,293 --> 00:22:40,333 Speaker 3: instead of the six you currently get, and for that 416 00:22:41,653 --> 00:22:48,573 Speaker 3: you must play twelve thirteen tests, fifteen ODIs, eighteen t 417 00:22:48,813 --> 00:22:52,653 Speaker 3: twenties internationals in your year. If you can do that, 418 00:22:53,173 --> 00:22:57,093 Speaker 3: you'll get the twelve percent they and I just wonder 419 00:22:57,133 --> 00:23:00,973 Speaker 3: whether that could actually be one way they could sort 420 00:23:01,813 --> 00:23:06,053 Speaker 3: some of the problems out. I mean, people will be 421 00:23:06,173 --> 00:23:09,173 Speaker 3: shouting at their radios, they'll be shouting, yes you are. 422 00:23:09,253 --> 00:23:11,853 Speaker 3: You're wanting to shout straight away too. But then I 423 00:23:12,053 --> 00:23:18,013 Speaker 3: just finished the just my last thought, my last thought look, 424 00:23:18,453 --> 00:23:22,733 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what you think of these simple idea, but 425 00:23:22,933 --> 00:23:25,453 Speaker 3: I would I would argue that it is important that 426 00:23:25,533 --> 00:23:29,493 Speaker 3: we have those kind of discussions while you know there's 427 00:23:29,493 --> 00:23:32,733 Speaker 3: still test cricket around. Don't let it fall away and 428 00:23:32,893 --> 00:23:37,693 Speaker 3: become irrelevant without having these discussions. You know, whether strong 429 00:23:37,813 --> 00:23:41,013 Speaker 3: sides keep getting stronger and the weak teams more fragile. 430 00:23:41,533 --> 00:23:44,493 Speaker 4: Yeah, I look, I agree with you in terms of that. 431 00:23:44,773 --> 00:23:48,333 Speaker 4: But were you thinking, were you're dreaming or drinking heavily 432 00:23:48,413 --> 00:23:52,413 Speaker 4: that the ICC might actually make a change and really 433 00:23:52,613 --> 00:23:55,773 Speaker 4: incorporate the love of test cricket for the rest of 434 00:23:55,853 --> 00:23:59,213 Speaker 4: the world, Because to me it seems about the ICC. 435 00:23:59,573 --> 00:24:01,813 Speaker 4: It's all about the ICC and how much money they 436 00:24:01,813 --> 00:24:04,573 Speaker 4: can rake in. Yeah, they hand out money to all 437 00:24:04,733 --> 00:24:08,533 Speaker 4: the major countries. But the last lot of figure, as 438 00:24:08,733 --> 00:24:11,173 Speaker 4: you and I saw Indy, you got most of it, 439 00:24:11,253 --> 00:24:11,533 Speaker 4: didn't it? 440 00:24:12,053 --> 00:24:14,973 Speaker 3: Well? Nearly eighty wasn't it nearly eighty percent? They say, 441 00:24:15,013 --> 00:24:17,573 Speaker 3: of course they make that too. But you see, let's 442 00:24:17,613 --> 00:24:21,173 Speaker 3: move away from that model that's not working. You've only 443 00:24:21,253 --> 00:24:23,693 Speaker 3: got to look at the performances of West Indies and 444 00:24:23,733 --> 00:24:27,093 Speaker 3: Sri Lanka and England where they're getting through to sometimes 445 00:24:27,133 --> 00:24:31,093 Speaker 3: to day three, sometimes to day four, early on day 446 00:24:31,173 --> 00:24:35,413 Speaker 3: four whatever, and well look at the crowds. The crowds 447 00:24:35,573 --> 00:24:37,773 Speaker 3: aren't going to the game the last day in that 448 00:24:37,853 --> 00:24:41,293 Speaker 3: Sri Lanka last Test, only eight thousand there on the 449 00:24:41,373 --> 00:24:45,733 Speaker 3: last day. Now at Law we just gone on that situation. No, 450 00:24:46,173 --> 00:24:51,173 Speaker 3: course not. The punters aren't stupid. The quality when you've 451 00:24:51,213 --> 00:24:55,973 Speaker 3: got to pay eighty five pounds which was the cheapest ticket, yeah, 452 00:24:56,253 --> 00:24:59,173 Speaker 3: you expect, and then you perhaps have add and travel, 453 00:24:59,773 --> 00:25:02,573 Speaker 3: add in food, add and drink. You might want to 454 00:25:02,613 --> 00:25:05,893 Speaker 3: take your son or daughter along. Think how expensive that 455 00:25:06,093 --> 00:25:11,933 Speaker 3: day is and quality, the quality of the product isn't 456 00:25:12,013 --> 00:25:16,493 Speaker 3: good enough. You would expect a damn good competitive quality 457 00:25:16,893 --> 00:25:17,893 Speaker 3: for that amount of money. 458 00:25:18,613 --> 00:25:21,293 Speaker 4: Some people were paying over one hundred and twenty quid 459 00:25:21,933 --> 00:25:24,533 Speaker 4: for those seats at Lord. One hundred and twenty. That's 460 00:25:24,613 --> 00:25:26,973 Speaker 4: nearly two hundred and fifty New Zealand dollars, isn't it. 461 00:25:27,373 --> 00:25:31,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah for a seat. And yeah, look, I just 462 00:25:32,053 --> 00:25:35,013 Speaker 3: think what test cricket is. And I know our listeners 463 00:25:35,053 --> 00:25:37,933 Speaker 3: will know. You know, I'm an older fella now, and 464 00:25:38,853 --> 00:25:42,253 Speaker 3: maybe it is for older people, the test format, but 465 00:25:42,773 --> 00:25:45,533 Speaker 3: I think it's worth saving because it happens to be 466 00:25:46,333 --> 00:25:50,453 Speaker 3: the best format for me, it's only my view. The 467 00:25:50,573 --> 00:25:52,773 Speaker 3: other point I would make, just to finish it, is, 468 00:25:53,453 --> 00:25:58,573 Speaker 3: do you agree, yes, jere me, that's good. 469 00:25:59,573 --> 00:26:02,293 Speaker 4: That's the older people. 470 00:26:02,773 --> 00:26:07,693 Speaker 3: Look quickly, yeah, go and get clear to tap you 471 00:26:07,773 --> 00:26:10,413 Speaker 3: on the back of give you another pill now. 472 00:26:10,453 --> 00:26:10,653 Speaker 4: Look. 473 00:26:10,693 --> 00:26:14,973 Speaker 3: But I just value into I just value international cricket. Actually, 474 00:26:15,373 --> 00:26:18,213 Speaker 3: I like international stuff. I don't care really, I watch 475 00:26:18,293 --> 00:26:21,773 Speaker 3: all the World Cups. I don't care what format it is. 476 00:26:22,533 --> 00:26:26,973 Speaker 3: I suppose it's because I've known about those things and 477 00:26:27,093 --> 00:26:30,893 Speaker 3: it means more to me. I don't really care quite 478 00:26:30,973 --> 00:26:35,333 Speaker 3: so much about franchise A versus franchise B and insert 479 00:26:35,453 --> 00:26:41,213 Speaker 3: some silly names there, and clubs made up and comprised 480 00:26:41,373 --> 00:26:46,773 Speaker 3: of cricketing itinerants, you know, thrown together by money owned 481 00:26:46,813 --> 00:26:51,053 Speaker 3: by someone wearing an expensive suit and loads of plastic surgery. 482 00:26:51,333 --> 00:26:55,533 Speaker 3: I don't want to I really, during the midwinter in 483 00:26:55,613 --> 00:26:58,733 Speaker 3: the Middle East or on the Canadian border, I don't 484 00:26:58,853 --> 00:27:04,893 Speaker 3: care about that as much. So ultimately it's about money, 485 00:27:04,973 --> 00:27:08,013 Speaker 3: isn't it. Franchise cricket. It's about laborers who pick up 486 00:27:08,013 --> 00:27:10,413 Speaker 3: their year at the end of five weeks and move 487 00:27:10,493 --> 00:27:12,213 Speaker 3: on somewhere else, and. 488 00:27:12,293 --> 00:27:14,733 Speaker 4: That plastic surgery, I presume that includes a couple of 489 00:27:14,813 --> 00:27:17,013 Speaker 4: new hips or yee joints replaced to them. 490 00:27:18,773 --> 00:27:24,773 Speaker 3: Well, what about my hip exactly. 491 00:27:24,973 --> 00:27:27,973 Speaker 4: Exactly, point will made Jarian. I'm sure we can discuss 492 00:27:28,053 --> 00:27:30,533 Speaker 4: that on a future occasion as well. Let's look ahead 493 00:27:30,613 --> 00:27:35,133 Speaker 4: to Afghanistan a Test match. They've arrived in Greater Noider, 494 00:27:35,173 --> 00:27:39,093 Speaker 4: which is somewhere near Delhi in India and it's an 495 00:27:39,133 --> 00:27:41,453 Speaker 4: area that has been little known for Test cricket. They've 496 00:27:41,533 --> 00:27:44,533 Speaker 4: played very little in that part of the world. Darryl 497 00:27:44,653 --> 00:27:48,133 Speaker 4: Mitchell is one of the key members of the New 498 00:27:48,213 --> 00:27:51,493 Speaker 4: Zealand side. He's had a fair time to practice at home. 499 00:27:51,533 --> 00:27:55,453 Speaker 4: He's acknowledged that and I think he understands right from 500 00:27:55,493 --> 00:27:57,933 Speaker 4: the outset the challenge they face. 501 00:27:58,613 --> 00:28:00,733 Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I guess it's the unknown of not really 502 00:28:00,813 --> 00:28:02,813 Speaker 5: knowing what the surface will do. So for us, it's 503 00:28:03,213 --> 00:28:05,253 Speaker 5: the next three days trainings will be really important to 504 00:28:05,333 --> 00:28:07,733 Speaker 5: try and work out firstly how the surface will play 505 00:28:07,733 --> 00:28:09,693 Speaker 5: and how we want to go about on that surface, 506 00:28:09,773 --> 00:28:11,853 Speaker 5: and you will just adapt as quick as we can. 507 00:28:12,653 --> 00:28:14,893 Speaker 5: The surfaces can be so different from ground to ground, 508 00:28:14,933 --> 00:28:17,253 Speaker 5: in city to city, so it's working out what is 509 00:28:17,333 --> 00:28:19,693 Speaker 5: the challenge on that wicket and trying to find ways 510 00:28:19,733 --> 00:28:22,333 Speaker 5: put pressure back on the bowlers. For me, that's sticking 511 00:28:22,373 --> 00:28:24,253 Speaker 5: with them my own strengths. And at the same time, 512 00:28:24,333 --> 00:28:26,373 Speaker 5: you know, I've spent the last sort of two months 513 00:28:26,413 --> 00:28:28,373 Speaker 5: now at home to prepare for this Test series and 514 00:28:28,453 --> 00:28:31,373 Speaker 5: come up with some plans which hopefully fingers cross will work. 515 00:28:32,213 --> 00:28:32,373 Speaker 4: Yeah. 516 00:28:32,453 --> 00:28:34,053 Speaker 5: Look, it's been cool. We've had a couple of camps 517 00:28:34,133 --> 00:28:36,413 Speaker 5: up and Lincoln and at the Mountain and try and 518 00:28:36,453 --> 00:28:38,733 Speaker 5: replicate I guess the surfaces that we will get over here, 519 00:28:38,813 --> 00:28:41,933 Speaker 5: so you can never quite create Indian wickets. But yeah, 520 00:28:42,133 --> 00:28:44,253 Speaker 5: I'm really happy with the way the prep's gone and 521 00:28:44,333 --> 00:28:46,453 Speaker 5: just looking forward again, stuck in. Yeah, look for us, 522 00:28:46,453 --> 00:28:48,413 Speaker 5: Test cricket's really important to us as a group and 523 00:28:48,813 --> 00:28:51,573 Speaker 5: another chance played Testcreavy country is pretty special. So to 524 00:28:51,653 --> 00:28:53,933 Speaker 5: take on Afghanistan, which is something we haven't done before, 525 00:28:54,013 --> 00:28:55,973 Speaker 5: and yeah, we know they've got a number of world 526 00:28:55,973 --> 00:28:58,813 Speaker 5: class players, especially in these conditions, it'll be a cool challenge. 527 00:28:59,533 --> 00:29:01,733 Speaker 4: You might not have realized that just before that car 528 00:29:01,813 --> 00:29:04,053 Speaker 4: started at the end of the piece with Mitchell on it, 529 00:29:04,373 --> 00:29:07,093 Speaker 4: he was almost run down outside the front of the 530 00:29:07,173 --> 00:29:10,613 Speaker 4: hotel by an another white car that seemed to be 531 00:29:11,213 --> 00:29:13,613 Speaker 4: uncontrolled and you had to step aside to save himself 532 00:29:13,973 --> 00:29:18,013 Speaker 4: from being run down. But that's the agility that Test 533 00:29:18,053 --> 00:29:21,053 Speaker 4: match players have and are going to have to have. 534 00:29:22,133 --> 00:29:25,693 Speaker 4: Mitchell acknowledges that the players are up against a tough 535 00:29:26,213 --> 00:29:29,053 Speaker 4: three months with nine Test matches to play. 536 00:29:29,533 --> 00:29:31,853 Speaker 5: There's definitely something I guess looking at the calendar for 537 00:29:32,093 --> 00:29:33,693 Speaker 5: a period of time now, you can sort of keep 538 00:29:33,693 --> 00:29:36,573 Speaker 5: you on and excited by the challenge to come over 539 00:29:36,653 --> 00:29:39,373 Speaker 5: here to play Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and India and in 540 00:29:39,493 --> 00:29:42,573 Speaker 5: these subconserent conditions. And that's why you play test crickets. 541 00:29:42,613 --> 00:29:43,893 Speaker 5: You want to take on the best in their own 542 00:29:44,093 --> 00:29:44,973 Speaker 5: and their own conditions. 543 00:29:45,013 --> 00:29:48,573 Speaker 4: And yeah, cool, I think it's pretty simple Jerry, isn't it. 544 00:29:48,693 --> 00:29:51,253 Speaker 4: He recognizes that they're going to have to work hard 545 00:29:51,613 --> 00:29:54,693 Speaker 4: for three days just to get to grips with the 546 00:29:54,773 --> 00:29:57,213 Speaker 4: conditions over there, because they're planning a lot of cricket 547 00:29:57,253 --> 00:30:01,173 Speaker 4: in India over the next six to eight weeks. And 548 00:30:02,253 --> 00:30:05,733 Speaker 4: this is not for the World Test Championship against Afghanistan, 549 00:30:06,453 --> 00:30:08,653 Speaker 4: but it's an important test match for them, isn't it. 550 00:30:09,173 --> 00:30:12,533 Speaker 3: Well, it's a serious warm up, isn't it. And it's 551 00:30:12,653 --> 00:30:17,173 Speaker 3: not one of those thirteen fourteen players and we'll let 552 00:30:17,253 --> 00:30:19,933 Speaker 3: you have a few of ours into your team and 553 00:30:20,053 --> 00:30:21,293 Speaker 3: we'll play against each other. 554 00:30:21,893 --> 00:30:22,053 Speaker 4: You know. 555 00:30:22,413 --> 00:30:25,133 Speaker 3: It's not one of those warm up before one your 556 00:30:25,173 --> 00:30:30,013 Speaker 3: first test. It's the tail end of the monsoon. So 557 00:30:30,653 --> 00:30:34,173 Speaker 3: rain is a possibility, but not as much in July 558 00:30:34,293 --> 00:30:39,293 Speaker 3: as August and August. It's the home ground, you know, 559 00:30:39,413 --> 00:30:43,453 Speaker 3: adopted one for Afghanistan. They used to be charged, didn't they, 560 00:30:44,013 --> 00:30:47,493 Speaker 3: And the cricket ground there and it's a sports complex 561 00:30:47,613 --> 00:30:50,053 Speaker 3: so there is you know, Olympic swimming pool and a 562 00:30:50,893 --> 00:30:54,173 Speaker 3: running track and all that sort of stuff around the 563 00:30:54,253 --> 00:30:57,053 Speaker 3: cricket ground. I think I saw a picture was where 564 00:30:57,053 --> 00:31:00,013 Speaker 3: it seats about eight thousand at the moment. I don't 565 00:31:00,053 --> 00:31:02,133 Speaker 3: think they'll get those sort of crowds, but who knows. 566 00:31:03,093 --> 00:31:07,453 Speaker 3: Concurence setting, Yeah, yeah, that maybe I can. I can 567 00:31:07,533 --> 00:31:11,413 Speaker 3: hear the planes starting up and get the flying into Utta, Pradesh, 568 00:31:12,773 --> 00:31:16,733 Speaker 3: but with the shade on the top tier only. They've 569 00:31:16,773 --> 00:31:18,893 Speaker 3: got a pavilion that'll be handy. The boys don't have 570 00:31:19,013 --> 00:31:23,373 Speaker 3: to change outside the boundary. So quite a smallest ground. 571 00:31:23,453 --> 00:31:26,493 Speaker 3: It says boundary side sixty four meters straight, sixty six 572 00:31:26,813 --> 00:31:31,053 Speaker 3: meters square. And I looked at a couple of games 573 00:31:31,133 --> 00:31:34,893 Speaker 3: that they've held there wads. They haven't had many ODIs. 574 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:38,613 Speaker 3: They've had two af Gone two ninety two, Ireland two 575 00:31:38,733 --> 00:31:42,573 Speaker 3: sixty two in forty six overs. Second game af Gone 576 00:31:42,653 --> 00:31:46,173 Speaker 3: three thirty eight and Ireland three h four. Not bad 577 00:31:46,253 --> 00:31:49,893 Speaker 3: totals for an ODI, but maybe that's the size of 578 00:31:49,933 --> 00:31:53,093 Speaker 3: the ground. Who knows. And the last one I've looked 579 00:31:53,133 --> 00:31:55,693 Speaker 3: up was a Rangy Trophy, which I was more interested 580 00:31:55,733 --> 00:31:58,253 Speaker 3: in because it's more like a test match. Four dayers, 581 00:31:58,893 --> 00:32:03,093 Speaker 3: the local team Utter Pradesh played Baroda Baroda three twenty one. 582 00:32:03,853 --> 00:32:08,173 Speaker 3: Uda Pradesh used seven bowlders. Now it took a h 583 00:32:08,533 --> 00:32:12,173 Speaker 3: and thirteen overs, but that included cool Deep Yadav and 584 00:32:12,453 --> 00:32:15,373 Speaker 3: Pierce Choler who's a leg spinner who played for India, 585 00:32:15,453 --> 00:32:19,773 Speaker 3: so decent bowlers, decent spinners. And then Uda Pradesh got 586 00:32:19,853 --> 00:32:23,733 Speaker 3: five hundred and twenty four one hundred and fifty two overs. 587 00:32:24,173 --> 00:32:29,573 Speaker 3: Baroda used seven bowlers again Indian bowlers, wads Erfun Patan, 588 00:32:29,733 --> 00:32:34,253 Speaker 3: Munaf Patel, Hardik Pandia and then Baroda finished off two 589 00:32:34,373 --> 00:32:37,413 Speaker 3: fifty eight for three. Now, if the block is the 590 00:32:37,573 --> 00:32:41,373 Speaker 3: same as that game was played, and that was about 591 00:32:41,453 --> 00:32:45,013 Speaker 3: four or so years ago, and they've been using local 592 00:32:45,093 --> 00:32:48,093 Speaker 3: teams and corporates since then. But it sounds as though 593 00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:49,933 Speaker 3: bowlers are going to have to work hard, doesn't it. 594 00:32:51,493 --> 00:32:54,813 Speaker 3: It seems as though not much seen because that Irfund 595 00:32:54,813 --> 00:32:58,493 Speaker 3: Patan and Muna Patel lot. Maybe you need real pace 596 00:32:59,093 --> 00:33:01,493 Speaker 3: to take the wicked out of the equation a bit 597 00:33:01,613 --> 00:33:06,293 Speaker 3: more so to me, That brings Seers and O'Rourke into 598 00:33:06,333 --> 00:33:10,613 Speaker 3: the game more still want I think Henry there just 599 00:33:10,733 --> 00:33:14,533 Speaker 3: in case, and it looks for spinners that you want 600 00:33:14,573 --> 00:33:18,253 Speaker 3: to get the ball flighty more flighty up above the 601 00:33:18,693 --> 00:33:22,773 Speaker 3: batsman's head and drop it. That brings Bracewol and age 602 00:33:22,773 --> 00:33:26,733 Speaker 3: as Patel slightly ahead of Santner. I think in terms 603 00:33:26,773 --> 00:33:29,373 Speaker 3: of the team composition, you. 604 00:33:29,413 --> 00:33:32,573 Speaker 4: Can also add Ravendra in if he gets a batting 605 00:33:32,693 --> 00:33:36,453 Speaker 4: slot in the Test team, to add the extra bowling option, 606 00:33:36,613 --> 00:33:40,613 Speaker 4: but he would be third in that choice quite clearly. 607 00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:43,613 Speaker 4: It's been a busy month for the New Zealand side 608 00:33:43,613 --> 00:33:46,093 Speaker 4: because they've also been able to or had to watch 609 00:33:46,573 --> 00:33:49,373 Speaker 4: England play Sri Lanka. They've played the West and East, 610 00:33:49,373 --> 00:33:52,173 Speaker 4: now they're playing Sri Lanka. What would they've taken out 611 00:33:52,173 --> 00:33:56,973 Speaker 4: of that last Test England's win over Sri Lanka. There's 612 00:33:57,053 --> 00:33:59,693 Speaker 4: areas where can be exploited. Sri Lanka. They're a good 613 00:33:59,733 --> 00:34:01,933 Speaker 4: side and will be at home, but they have a 614 00:34:01,973 --> 00:34:03,573 Speaker 4: few weaknesses that can be exploited. 615 00:34:04,253 --> 00:34:08,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Sri Lanka. I think the bowling look 616 00:34:08,653 --> 00:34:12,333 Speaker 3: weaker than potentially the batting. I don't know. I mean 617 00:34:12,853 --> 00:34:16,973 Speaker 3: they've been beaten, you know, pretty comfortably by England at home. 618 00:34:17,453 --> 00:34:21,893 Speaker 3: But the impressive bowler is with the quicks A setter Fernando, 619 00:34:22,253 --> 00:34:25,493 Speaker 3: he looks their best quick Kumara came in in the 620 00:34:25,573 --> 00:34:28,573 Speaker 3: second Test and looked, you know better, I thought. And 621 00:34:28,653 --> 00:34:30,933 Speaker 3: from the batting point of view, they didn't. I mean, 622 00:34:30,973 --> 00:34:33,933 Speaker 3: they didn't look to have a really interesting spinner, did 623 00:34:34,013 --> 00:34:38,653 Speaker 3: they really? Jayasuria? Jayasuria didn't really make a huge difference. 624 00:34:39,173 --> 00:34:43,093 Speaker 3: Bowled a few overs and then the batting obviously that commandremendous. 625 00:34:43,573 --> 00:34:46,093 Speaker 3: But he's batting at about number seven, isn't he He 626 00:34:46,213 --> 00:34:49,173 Speaker 3: got the hundred and he's had a seventy seventy at Lord's. 627 00:34:49,293 --> 00:34:52,173 Speaker 3: He looks a good player. And then chunder Mar's got 628 00:34:52,213 --> 00:34:55,813 Speaker 3: a few and Baruna Ratna will be okay, I think 629 00:34:55,853 --> 00:35:00,253 Speaker 3: when we play. Yeah, Matthews is there, so I think, 630 00:35:00,333 --> 00:35:03,293 Speaker 3: and they one of the features I think they've shown 631 00:35:03,413 --> 00:35:06,453 Speaker 3: is that cook They're quite They fight quite hard, don't they? 632 00:35:07,213 --> 00:35:12,493 Speaker 3: And so I think they are going to be difficult 633 00:35:12,533 --> 00:35:14,253 Speaker 3: at home most definitely. 634 00:35:14,373 --> 00:35:17,693 Speaker 4: And they've got another Test match which is about to begin, 635 00:35:18,413 --> 00:35:21,093 Speaker 4: and they'll be playing against a guy called Joe Root, 636 00:35:21,173 --> 00:35:25,253 Speaker 4: who Michael Vaughan says is England's best ever batsman. 637 00:35:26,413 --> 00:35:30,213 Speaker 3: I think you could, yeah, well that's a bold play. 638 00:35:31,533 --> 00:35:33,653 Speaker 4: Yeah, you could. You could take exception because you could 639 00:35:33,653 --> 00:35:36,413 Speaker 4: look at a number of players over different eras and 640 00:35:36,493 --> 00:35:40,213 Speaker 4: it's the issue of looking at players and statistically you 641 00:35:40,293 --> 00:35:44,653 Speaker 4: could probably find very little argument. But players play in 642 00:35:44,773 --> 00:35:48,453 Speaker 4: different eras, different conditions, and it's very hard to mark 643 00:35:48,573 --> 00:35:51,653 Speaker 4: one against the other. Joe Root against Don Bradman. You 644 00:35:51,773 --> 00:35:54,453 Speaker 4: can't pick a one of there, can you, because they've 645 00:35:54,453 --> 00:35:55,813 Speaker 4: played in different eras. 646 00:35:56,373 --> 00:36:00,733 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so as you say, uncovered pictures, too many variables. 647 00:36:01,293 --> 00:36:04,413 Speaker 3: Who are you playing? What is the strength of the bowl? 648 00:36:04,573 --> 00:36:04,613 Speaker 4: Is? 649 00:36:05,093 --> 00:36:07,373 Speaker 3: How strong is your side? In other words, if you're 650 00:36:07,413 --> 00:36:09,893 Speaker 3: a number four like Joe Root, are you going in 651 00:36:09,933 --> 00:36:14,773 Speaker 3: at two for fifteen? All the time, the laws have changed, drs, 652 00:36:15,293 --> 00:36:18,133 Speaker 3: the equipment's changed, the size of the grounds changed, look, 653 00:36:18,293 --> 00:36:21,733 Speaker 3: so many things. Was the game we keep saying all 654 00:36:21,853 --> 00:36:25,333 Speaker 3: the game's changing so quickly. I would think of Joe Root, 655 00:36:25,933 --> 00:36:28,453 Speaker 3: and you tend to as a kid think of you know, 656 00:36:28,613 --> 00:36:31,133 Speaker 3: the players that you saw and they made an impact 657 00:36:31,253 --> 00:36:34,813 Speaker 3: on you and so on. But certainly for me the 658 00:36:34,933 --> 00:36:41,733 Speaker 3: period I played, Buchen Gower stood out as outstanding English players. 659 00:36:42,533 --> 00:36:48,253 Speaker 3: And since I've stopped, I think Peterson and Root were 660 00:36:48,333 --> 00:36:52,733 Speaker 3: the two that, again very different players who stood out 661 00:36:52,773 --> 00:36:57,053 Speaker 3: for me. So those four in terms of batsmen ones 662 00:36:57,093 --> 00:36:59,293 Speaker 3: and Oakner ones are three and two of them are 663 00:36:59,373 --> 00:37:03,973 Speaker 3: four basically your middle order. So I would have to 664 00:37:04,053 --> 00:37:08,613 Speaker 3: say Root is probably the best of the modern English 665 00:37:08,653 --> 00:37:12,253 Speaker 3: batsman that I've seen. I don't know what he's so consistent. 666 00:37:13,893 --> 00:37:16,453 Speaker 4: Oh and there's no doubt. I mean, I'm not arguing 667 00:37:16,733 --> 00:37:19,013 Speaker 4: that a fact that tallom and he's and he's a 668 00:37:19,053 --> 00:37:21,893 Speaker 4: good batsman to watch. I like players who are good 669 00:37:21,933 --> 00:37:24,493 Speaker 4: to watch. David Gower for me, was probably one of 670 00:37:24,573 --> 00:37:28,853 Speaker 4: the most elegant batsmen I ever saw. You know, we've 671 00:37:28,893 --> 00:37:31,893 Speaker 4: talked about Bert suckerf how elegant was he as a player, 672 00:37:32,573 --> 00:37:36,373 Speaker 4: Very very eligant left hander and goer in his time, 673 00:37:36,653 --> 00:37:39,453 Speaker 4: you know, average forty four and tests eight thousand runs, 674 00:37:40,053 --> 00:37:41,733 Speaker 4: but he can go back before that. You can look 675 00:37:41,773 --> 00:37:43,893 Speaker 4: at the stats of Walter Hammond. We don't know how 676 00:37:43,933 --> 00:37:45,973 Speaker 4: good he was. We have to look at the stats. 677 00:37:46,053 --> 00:37:48,573 Speaker 4: We have to listen to what people say. Glenn Hutton 678 00:37:48,813 --> 00:37:52,093 Speaker 4: was another one, average fifty six and test matches. You know, 679 00:37:52,173 --> 00:37:53,853 Speaker 4: we don't think about that, do we when we look 680 00:37:53,853 --> 00:37:57,053 Speaker 4: at Joe Route, who averages fifty So you know, it's 681 00:37:57,973 --> 00:38:01,533 Speaker 4: it's the era, it's the time more so than the stats. 682 00:38:01,613 --> 00:38:05,053 Speaker 4: The stats talk for themselves, don't they They do. 683 00:38:05,573 --> 00:38:08,613 Speaker 3: And I think when you're asked to name the best 684 00:38:09,053 --> 00:38:13,813 Speaker 3: test side, say from England, that people generally look at 685 00:38:13,893 --> 00:38:17,933 Speaker 3: the more modern players then they do the older players. 686 00:38:18,493 --> 00:38:21,693 Speaker 3: But Dennis Compton, I don't know whether you mentioned him. 687 00:38:22,173 --> 00:38:25,213 Speaker 3: I remember talking to John Woodstock at once, you know 688 00:38:26,573 --> 00:38:30,893 Speaker 3: that that writer who was who's not what was any longer? Yeah, 689 00:38:30,973 --> 00:38:35,573 Speaker 3: John Woodcock, sorry, not Woodstock, and he said Dennis Compton 690 00:38:35,733 --> 00:38:41,413 Speaker 3: was above everybody, peerless. Tom Graveney is another name that 691 00:38:41,533 --> 00:38:44,373 Speaker 3: comes to my head. Peter May, a very strong player, 692 00:38:45,173 --> 00:38:48,013 Speaker 3: Colin Cowdreyke and you know there are lots of them, 693 00:38:48,173 --> 00:38:50,773 Speaker 3: so you know, I think that's what That's why I 694 00:38:50,893 --> 00:38:54,933 Speaker 3: said sort of yeah, best ever not sure about that, 695 00:38:55,493 --> 00:38:58,813 Speaker 3: but certainly I think of the modern era. Router's right 696 00:38:58,933 --> 00:38:59,293 Speaker 3: up there. 697 00:39:00,093 --> 00:39:03,013 Speaker 4: Yep. Well, Jeremy Kney is the best ever as far 698 00:39:03,053 --> 00:39:07,413 Speaker 4: as I'm concerned, and I will remain that way as 699 00:39:07,493 --> 00:39:09,373 Speaker 4: long as we can. Our old friends. 700 00:39:11,653 --> 00:39:15,453 Speaker 3: Well, it's where it's being stretched. It's been stretched today. 701 00:39:18,213 --> 00:39:20,613 Speaker 4: Never mind, we've got there. We've got a test manage 702 00:39:20,653 --> 00:39:25,213 Speaker 4: to look forward to starting Monday. Yeah, great, and what 703 00:39:26,133 --> 00:39:32,373 Speaker 4: time as it was, It'll be about five afternoon starting yeah, 704 00:39:32,453 --> 00:39:33,773 Speaker 4: starting through about midnight. 705 00:39:34,933 --> 00:39:37,493 Speaker 3: Okay, and it starts Monday, doesn't it nine? 706 00:39:37,933 --> 00:39:38,373 Speaker 4: That's right. 707 00:39:39,173 --> 00:39:46,693 Speaker 3: That's okay, So Monday to Friday test and we'll thank 708 00:39:46,853 --> 00:39:48,853 Speaker 3: god you and I haven't got jobs. 709 00:39:50,453 --> 00:39:53,733 Speaker 4: Except go get you then get a few nights sleep 710 00:39:53,773 --> 00:39:54,573 Speaker 4: because we're going to have to. 711 00:39:56,373 --> 00:39:58,293 Speaker 3: I better go and get a sky what is it 712 00:39:58,413 --> 00:40:01,173 Speaker 3: called a sky now or something like that. I have 713 00:40:01,213 --> 00:40:02,253 Speaker 3: a little package. 714 00:40:03,533 --> 00:40:04,253 Speaker 4: Go and get something. 715 00:40:07,413 --> 00:40:15,693 Speaker 8: Se yes, by all the world, A qualities of someting 716 00:40:16,373 --> 00:40:17,573 Speaker 8: do do 717 00:40:21,413 --> 00:40:23,973 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks at b Listen live on 718 00:40:24,133 --> 00:40:27,053 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 719 00:40:27,133 --> 00:40:29,693 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.