1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Eighteen past five four four. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: Let's try that one again. 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Eighteen past four. Darcy Waldgrave's right here. How are you hello, Darcian? 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Very well, thank you. So Patrick's back for the Blues. 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: So the Blues are going to win. 6 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: Paddy two ups has made the return. That's sir Patrick 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: two Blotto for those who don't know his nickname. This 8 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: is very similar to what Sam Whitelook white Lock did 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: last year when he decided to miraculously come back from 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: injury and play a full eighty minutes for the Crusaders 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: to win that title. Of course, that was Scott Robertson's decision. 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure that Ian Foster wasn't overly pleased him. The 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: fact the hold on that's one of our key all blacks. 14 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: Don't you dare break him? So this time around the 15 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: medics who said it was going to be sixty seven 16 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: weeks only to be a couple of weeks. Nahn has 17 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: media ligaments, fine, should be right with test that all 18 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: he's going to play. Paddy plain Need does not want 19 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: to not be involved. Yeah, possibly the only Blue success 20 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: in many years. He wants to be there. So I 21 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: don't see Scott Robertson the or Blacks coach who pulled 22 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: the same trick last year, go hey, what are you 23 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: doing your guy? See goose gam to gotcha, you do 24 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: whatever you want. It's great for Patrick. I wouldn't say 25 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: it definitely means the Blues are going to win. There's 26 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: so much going in. The blueses favor forty four thousand people, 27 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: and the Chiefs just love taking big brother scalps, don't they. 28 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: They've been particularly depted over the last few years, so 29 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: this is going to be exciting. I just hope he survives, 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: Iby gets through the eighty minutes, and I hope for 31 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: all Black prospects that maybe after sixty minutes, stern or 32 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 2: depends if they're winning on mirthful vern pulls them from 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: the park. 34 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: Dasy. 35 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: I don't want to be the guy who said I 36 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: told you so, Okay, but in August twenty twenty, I 37 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: told you that this was going to happen to cricket. 38 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: And now look, how can you remember back four years? 39 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, twenty twenty two. Sorry, right, that wasn't you, 40 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: That was me twenty twenty two. It's only two years, 41 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: only two years. And the reason I can name the 42 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: date is because there was an article in the Economists 43 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: called the Footballization of Cricket. 44 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: I read it and talked to you about. 45 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: It, and what did you say exactly? 46 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: I said, well, this is the way that our cricket 47 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: team is going to go right. All of our good 48 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: players are going to end up playing for the IPL 49 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: and the big, big money making tournaments and stuff, and 50 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: the Black Caps will come secondary. 51 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: Slowly, bit surely. At Pills why started with tree ghetto law? 52 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: How long can players play for the national team before 53 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: being given dispensation through contract to actually not play for 54 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: their national site? And I would say every different player 55 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: there is a different set of rules for it. 56 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: It's about how how much we need them, basically right, and. 57 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: It's the negotiations. Heith Mills joins us in New Zealand 58 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: Cricket Players Association boss Tonight on Sports Talk Up After 59 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: Seven to talk about that Bolt's case, Williamson's case. You're 60 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: hardly going to say, you guys don't deserve It's like 61 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: getting yourself go. You want to come back and play 62 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: a wee bit for us. Fantastic does not. 63 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: Extend the same courtesy to Lucky Ferguson. 64 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: Well, depends where Locky Ferguson sits in the peaking order 65 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: if they deem to think that he is valuable enough 66 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: to let him go away. The bigger question here is 67 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: not this, and it's what the schedule into nationally looks 68 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: like for global cricket and who's running this because as 69 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: we know, all the money is in T twenty. Plainly obvious. 70 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: The T twenty leads popping up every a lot of them, 71 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: backed by the BCCI, bought a control cricket and they've 72 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: got all the money, so they've got all the control 73 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: of the golden rule. It's fairly simple. So what does 74 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: the ICC do as far as putting an essentially meaningless 75 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: bilateral series jammed in between them where players really don't 76 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: want to play for the risk of breaking themselves, thus 77 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: taking them away from consideration in this T twenty series. 78 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: So that's got to be looked at. On that global level, 79 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: all the players have to come together, This is the 80 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: boards and the franchises and everybody else and go right, 81 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: we need international cricket because that produces superstars, which in 82 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: turn go on to be superstars in T twenty cricket. 83 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, how are they organized their windows? Is there 84 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: a want to organize those windows. Who's control of those windows? 85 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: There are so many questions around us, and Heath is 86 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: going to join us this evening to talk about that, 87 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: because I get the sense nothing's had and for a 88 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: very long time. Why would anything change in the future? 89 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: To be fair though, To be fair, the South African 90 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: Cricket tournament has only just started up, so you could 91 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: argue that we've sort of seen the signs of it, 92 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: but it's really accelerating now. 93 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: So now the precious we saw. 94 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: The signs last year, didn't we Because it all saw this, 95 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: it all started up and then they sent over a 96 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: B team. I'm doing pretty well for. 97 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: Look at this Hither. 98 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: You're right, I remember you saying that this will be 99 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 3: the demise of the national team. 100 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: The question is was that twenty twenty or twenty twenty two? Texted? 101 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 3: Do you remember that twenty That's when I said it 102 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: was in nine saying it for you aged well, thank. 103 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: You, I thought so too, Darcy, appreciate it. Looking forward 104 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: to your show at seven with Heath Mills. It's Darcy 105 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: water Grave sports Stalk Hoast. For more from Hither Duplessy 106 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: Allen Drive, listen live to News Talks. 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