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Speaker 1: Host of the Country, Jamie McKay with us this evening.

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Speaker 1: Hey Jamie, Oh hang on this acain, Hey Jamie.

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Speaker 2: Good a Jack Take.

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Speaker 1: Two, Take two.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: I know you are a man of many talents, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that I'd be putting you in the

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Speaker 1: same group as Frank Bunce and Olo Brown. But you

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Speaker 1: are remembering your old mate Norm Hewitt tonight. And like

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Speaker 1: those two gentlemen, once upon a time, you called your

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Speaker 1: self Norm Hewitt's minder.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was asked to be his minder, to be

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Speaker 2: perfectly honest. I failed miserably in that job. Jack. Look

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Speaker 2: my connection with Norm Hewitt and I was so taken

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Speaker 2: aback to her. He died today, just fifty five years

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Speaker 2: of age of motor neuron disease. But my connection with

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Speaker 2: Norm came when an outfit called Team Southland decided in

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Speaker 2: the mid nineteen nineties that we would beef up the

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Speaker 2: Southland rugby side and had a crack at First Division

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Speaker 2: by importing a few players. We took the likes Marty

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Speaker 2: Robin's brother who was an All Black at the time,

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Speaker 2: and Norm Hewitt, and he was paid for or funded

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Speaker 2: by the Matara Licensing Trust. I was involved with him

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Speaker 2: at the time, and the chief e then chief executive,

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Speaker 2: asked me to be Norm's minder while he was down

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Speaker 2: in South and for two or three years. And as

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Speaker 2: I say, I probably failed a bit, especially when he

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Speaker 2: was drinking. He was a week at heart control. But

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Speaker 2: there were two sides to Norm Hewitt, A sober Norm

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Speaker 2: Hewitt or Norm Hewitt of latter years, as an absolute

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Speaker 2: gentleman and had a certain sort of air of grace

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Speaker 2: about him, almost Maori Royalty. I don't know what it was,

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Speaker 2: but he had that. He had that mana and air

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Speaker 2: of grace about him. So yeah, I failed probably looking

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Speaker 2: after Norm. But I loved him as a bloke and

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Speaker 2: in recent years, like you, i'd appear on the MC

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Speaker 2: circuit on occasions and i'd see him when he was

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Speaker 2: a keynote speaker at conferences. In my last memory, the

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Speaker 2: last time I ran into Norm was a field days

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Speaker 2: not too many years ago, when he wandered up and

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Speaker 2: he did a week slot on our show and it

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Speaker 2: was great to connect again and we went and had

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Speaker 2: a coffee and that's the last time I saw Norm.

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Speaker 2: Just one one where statistical comment and I heard Lorry

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Speaker 2: Maine's tribute to him, which was lovely as well. Norm

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Speaker 2: norm I played for the All Blacks for six seasons

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Speaker 2: and only got nine tests. The Blok who was in

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Speaker 2: front of him fits he played ninety two tests. If

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Speaker 2: norm was a was an All Black today, he would

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Speaker 2: have played seventy or eighty tests. So he was a

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Speaker 2: patient man because he rode the pine for a lot

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Speaker 2: of years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how well said the GDT auction tonight, Jamie,

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Speaker 1: what are you expecting?

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Speaker 2: Well, mine's far greater than mine, Jack. I always there's

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Speaker 2: a couple I go to Mike McIntyre at Jardin and

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Speaker 2: Emma Higgins at Rabobank. Look, it looks like we're heading

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Speaker 2: for three down in a row, which is a bit

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Speaker 2: depressing considering the last auction on July, the second fortnight

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Speaker 2: ago was down six point nine percent. Now the futures

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Speaker 2: market is picking at powder's skim powered a hole at

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Speaker 2: it could be down by as much as five percent.

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Speaker 2: Mike McIntyre's saying the GDT index cross the basket of

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Speaker 2: goods down three percent. Emma Higgins is slightly more positive

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Speaker 2: out a Ravo Bank. She's saying powders could be down

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Speaker 2: to two and a bit percent due to increased Northern

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Speaker 2: Hemisphere volumes on the GT platform. There is a rider

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Speaker 2: to this, though, Jack, if you're going to get a

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Speaker 2: drop in the GDT auction results, now, it's not a

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Speaker 2: bad time at the year. It's effectively our off season.

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Speaker 2: Our payment is locked and loaded for the season just gone,

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Speaker 2: and we've got a long way to go till September

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five before we announce the payout for the

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Speaker 2: season we're currently in.

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Speaker 1: And Jamie, are we living through the beginning of the

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Speaker 1: end for free trade?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I should ask you. I know you

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Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in the States following the

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Speaker 2: likes of Shrump and Biden. Look, I was just reading

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Speaker 2: an interesting article Jack and Farmers Weekly, and I do

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Speaker 2: need to credit them for putting this together. They're basically

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Speaker 2: saying both candidates Biden and Trump look like they're going

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Speaker 2: to have presidential election policies imposing tariffs on imported products

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Speaker 2: that could provoke global retaliation. Obviously, China's their primary target.

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Speaker 2: China's one of the world's biggest traders, if not the

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Speaker 2: world's biggest trader, so that's going to have an effect

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Speaker 2: on us. Jnald Trump is going threatening to impose a

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Speaker 2: sixty percent tariff on all imports from China and add

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Speaker 2: a ten percent tariff on imports from the rest of

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Speaker 2: the world. That would sting, while Joe Biden's already moved

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Speaker 2: on the Chinese. For instance, if you want to buy

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Speaker 2: a Chinese electric vehicle, you'll pay one hundred percent tariff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's massive a thank you so much, Jamie. That's

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Speaker 1: Jamie mckaye, host of the Country. It's a very good point. Actually,

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Speaker 1: after Trump's first term, a lot of people thought that

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden would wind back a lot of those trade

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Speaker 1: policies with China, but actually, if anything, he's kind of

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Speaker 1: doubled down on them. So it'd be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: if we do have a second term of a Trump

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Speaker 1: presidency just how much he increases those again, it's like

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Speaker 1: an arms race at the moment.

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