Speaker 1: Locking inside netfore getting you closer to the game you
Speaker 1: love with Adeen Wilson, Anna Stanley and Jenny Wood start
Speaker 1: by news talks that'd.
Speaker 2: Be Cicoto Kata. I feel a little as though mom
Speaker 2: and dad have gone away, leaving the little ones in charge.
Speaker 2: But don't worry. Adeen is in christ Church with her
Speaker 2: basketballing sons and Anna is in Balley soaking up the sun.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's a lot warmer there. So I have
Speaker 2: been left with the superstar sub Evonne Willering, and we
Speaker 2: are in control, aren't we.
Speaker 1: We can do this The Inside Netball Podcast right o.
Speaker 2: Well, we kind of noticed the twenty one year old
Speaker 2: last year, but we could hardly miss her this year.
Speaker 2: Second year of a full contract with the Mystics. Catherine Hall,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. What a season you're having. What's
Speaker 2: behind it?
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. Honestly, I don't know. I think
Speaker 4: I'm just enjoying being able to get out there and
Speaker 4: with all the game time I'm getting, I feel.
Speaker 3: Like I'm learning a lot.
Speaker 4: So honestly, I think each week it's just a matter
Speaker 4: of putting into practice and things have learned the week before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it helps the team.
Speaker 4: I'm in great group of girls around me, so honestly, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it all situation? Last year?
Speaker 5: I mean, there are a lot of in circle defenders
Speaker 5: in the Mystics, and you also had Caristithe there as well,
Speaker 5: Whereas now you have a look at it, you are
Speaker 5: as long as you're playing well, you're always going to
Speaker 5: be guaranteed starting position.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's made a difference to your game.
Speaker 5: I mean people say you can learn a lot from
Speaker 5: the side, you know, sitting on the sideline. Personally, I
Speaker 5: think it's about playing out on court. How are you
Speaker 5: feeling about that, being now obviously responsible in that defensive circle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're totally right.
Speaker 4: I think being able to actually go out there and
Speaker 4: play allows me to learn a lot quicker. But in
Speaker 4: saying that, I did learn heaps last year as well.
Speaker 4: I had Caris and Phoenix who taught me so much. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I think even this year, I like as Charlotte
Speaker 4: and our team as well. She's a great keeper, So
Speaker 4: I definitely don't feel safe in my position, which I
Speaker 4: think is cool as well because it keeps me pushing
Speaker 4: myself to keep trying to get better each week.
Speaker 2: So interesting game this week coming up, because obviously you're
Speaker 2: up against Kara stythe who not you yourself in the circle.
Speaker 2: But she's gone to the Steel and that's been a
Speaker 2: good move. She moving south has been good for both
Speaker 2: of your games, hasn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. Caris is one of my good friends. I've
Speaker 4: been keeping in touch with her, which is really nice.
Speaker 4: But she seems to be really enjoying it and she's
Speaker 4: really thriving down there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what it is, but she's must
Speaker 3: be the Southern Ear.
Speaker 4: But she's been playing amazing, so it's really cool to
Speaker 4: see her doing really well as well.
Speaker 5: She's in a very similar position that you're in, and
Speaker 5: that she is also very dominant within that defensive circle,
Speaker 5: whereas again she also wasn't as dominant when she was
Speaker 5: in the Mystics last year, and I've said it was
Speaker 5: a good move for her. And also, I mean, obviously
Speaker 5: what I love about your game is the fact you've
Speaker 5: stepped up now. Is Rob right the defensive coach? Or
Speaker 5: is it also with Tear.
Speaker 3: They take turns.
Speaker 4: For the first half of the season, we had Rob
Speaker 4: with us, and now we've got Tear with us. I
Speaker 4: think they like to sort of switch it up a bit,
Speaker 4: but they're both very good. I want to say, I
Speaker 4: don't mind who it is each week.
Speaker 5: Yes, I've had a bit to do with Rob over time,
Speaker 5: and obviously from Australia.
Speaker 1: Won't take that against them.
Speaker 5: But you know, he's very much he was initially very
Speaker 5: much a one on one defender. You know who's interested
Speaker 5: in just that one on one marking. Yet I look
Speaker 5: at your game and yes, sometimes you are reasonably tied on,
Speaker 5: although I often hear him saying comments saying get off
Speaker 5: the body, get off the body. But I think your
Speaker 5: greatest success is actually space marking more and looking for
Speaker 5: the intercepts. How have you found how How do you
Speaker 5: think you are playing at the moment. Is it a
Speaker 5: combination or what are you doing there?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think it is a combination.
Speaker 4: I think Robs come in and both him and Tea
Speaker 4: are sort of trying to create this new style of
Speaker 4: defense and mystics, which I think they've been working on
Speaker 4: for a few years, and it is it's a combination
Speaker 4: of being able to control our own player but also
Speaker 4: have a look at what else is happening around us.
Speaker 4: So I'd like to say my goal is to be
Speaker 4: a defender that can do both and can win ball
Speaker 4: both ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had some time out of gold defense the
Speaker 2: other night as well. Which do you prefer.
Speaker 4: Well, all, for a school, I was a gold defense,
Speaker 4: but then coming into mystics, I've mainly only played goalkeep,
Speaker 4: so I'm still a bit fresh with gold offense.
Speaker 3: At this level, I do enjoy them both.
Speaker 4: I'd say at the moment, I'm feeling more comfortable in goalkeeper,
Speaker 4: but I definitely want to keep expanding that I am
Speaker 4: a person that can play both.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you need to.
Speaker 5: I'm looking obviously further ahead for you for other situations,
Speaker 5: and yeah, if you have two positions and you sh
Speaker 5: you'll always be able to play one better than the other.
Speaker 5: But two positions, Yeah, generally teens for higher honors is
Speaker 5: what's required. And if Harvest please see you come out
Speaker 5: at goal offense. Do you find as goalkeeper you have
Speaker 5: more time to cite the intercepts than you would as
Speaker 5: a goal offense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: I think as a goalkeep one of the lucturies of
Speaker 4: the position as you can sort of see everything. You've
Speaker 4: got that spot at the back of the court to
Speaker 4: sort of see things coming, which helps a lot gold offense.
Speaker 4: It's I think it's a bit more. You're sort of
Speaker 4: constantly doing something, so you're sort of as different and
Speaker 4: as you say, there is less time to see things happening.
Speaker 4: But I think you can create ball in different ways,
Speaker 4: which is probably what I'm still learning how to do.
Speaker 2: Now, let's get away from the net or court. What
Speaker 2: do you do when you're not playing netball?
Speaker 4: So I'm at Uni, I'm studying medicine. Well, I'm actually
Speaker 4: I've deferred this year and I'm doing a honors research project.
Speaker 4: But it's all part of a medical degree.
Speaker 2: What is it with goalkeepers and doctors? Because isn't Laura
Speaker 2: Balma the she's doing medicine too. Isn't she one of
Speaker 2: the pulse players? But now tell me about your especially
Speaker 2: you're doing an interesting research paper. It's all to do
Speaker 2: with ankles, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yes, Well that was initially the plan and it probably
Speaker 4: will get to that, but I've sort of started. My
Speaker 4: supervisor is great. He's sort of letting it be whatever
Speaker 4: I'm interested in. So I started by doing a literature
Speaker 4: review on netball injuries actually, and then I guess because
Speaker 4: ankles are so commonly injured in netball. That's where we're
Speaker 4: probably hitting with the more of a biomechanical focus into
Speaker 4: some research because that's his sort of specialty area.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it'll get to that.
Speaker 5: Oh good on you now and your research. Are you
Speaker 5: able just to do that in any spare time or
Speaker 5: do you have set times that you have to do that?
Speaker 1: Is that why you now?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Are you now not doing the medical part because it's
Speaker 5: a time factor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's time.
Speaker 4: Last year I did my third year of medicine full
Speaker 4: time with netball, and so I was busy, but I
Speaker 4: managed to do it all. This year, i'd be going
Speaker 4: into placements of full time in the hospitals, so that
Speaker 4: becomes track at a balance with netball. So yeah, with
Speaker 4: the honors, I can I've got no where I need
Speaker 4: to be at certain times, so I can just spit
Speaker 4: it in around network.
Speaker 3: So it's really flexible.
Speaker 2: Well, you're certainly playing beautifully and I heard was it
Speaker 2: Kruz Tangira sort of saying that he thought that you
Speaker 2: might be heading for higher honors in the commentary, So
Speaker 2: you know, let's see if you can fulfill your potential.
Speaker 2: But before you go, we sort of finish up every
Speaker 2: chat with what we call a fast five. So these
Speaker 2: are just five questions, don't think too hard about it.
Speaker 1: Why inside Netball's fast five?
Speaker 2: What's your go to post game snack or meal?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'd say a burger, a nice face burger, or
Speaker 4: with sauce or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta have sauce.
Speaker 2: If you could compete in any other sport apart from network,
Speaker 2: what would it be and why volleyball?
Speaker 4: I always played volleyball as well as netball throughout school,
Speaker 4: and I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: My sister's a keen volleyballer as.
Speaker 2: Well, so oh well, yeah, it might be in the genes. Now,
Speaker 2: who in your team is most likely to get you
Speaker 2: into trouble and most likely to get you out of trouble.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good question.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I feel like a lot of them could get
Speaker 4: me into trouble. I'm gonna go with better to get
Speaker 4: me into trouble out of trouble, probably Holly Ray.
Speaker 2: Ah, Yes, she seems very sense. Holly Ray Yes, che
Speaker 2: is yes.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Now, if you could take any three athletes in the world,
Speaker 2: they can be dead or alive with you to dinner,
Speaker 2: who would you take.
Speaker 4: Oh, these are good questions, Serena Williams.
Speaker 5: M.
Speaker 3: Muhammad Aliu and oh maybe Simone Biles.
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, that's good, good thinking. Now, last one, what's
Speaker 2: the best piece of advice anyone has ever given you?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: That sounds so cliche, but honestly, probably just to have fun.
Speaker 4: I think it's so easy to get caught up in
Speaker 4: stressing of that, especially with netball, what's next or what
Speaker 4: I could be like trying to think of the next thing.
Speaker 3: But I think just.
Speaker 4: Being in the moment and enjoying it and remembering, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm here and I'm like, it's so called the opportunities
Speaker 4: that I get, So just enjoying those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that can sort of be in all aspects
Speaker 3: of life as well.
Speaker 2: That is so true. And look, you know a number
Speaker 2: of players have sort of said that's that sort of thing,
Speaker 2: and you can see it's reflected in the way they play. Catherine,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for taking your time today to
Speaker 2: have a hatch chat with us and all the rest,
Speaker 2: all the best for the rest of the season, no worries.
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Speaker 1: talking all things netball, Inside Nedball.
Speaker 2: Round seven has been and gone. Now let's go back,
Speaker 2: because that first game of round seven, it was the
Speaker 2: Steel versus the Magic. There was a lot of hype
Speaker 2: about this game because it was down and Invericargo and
Speaker 2: the Magic. Well, both teams needed to win it, really
Speaker 2: and one team severely underperformed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was an interesting clash and you're in situation.
Speaker 5: Still had to win it in order to stay and
Speaker 5: cons for that third spot. Magic had to win it
Speaker 5: because it's time that they started putting a winning performance
Speaker 5: out on court. And again, you look at the game,
Speaker 5: I thought it be a lot closer. It did end
Speaker 5: up reasonably close, but that's only because Magic started to
Speaker 5: shoot some two pointers and that makes it difference. And
Speaker 5: it's been a few games like that actually, So yeah,
Speaker 5: sixty five to fifty six, Yeah, I expect it closer.
Speaker 5: Encounter again done very dominant for the steal. She got
Speaker 5: forty four out of forty six. And it's interesting you
Speaker 5: look at it and you go, yeah, they're all close shots,
Speaker 5: and yes they're all from the baseline, and I'm going, so,
Speaker 5: why defensively hasn't anyone done anything about that? And that's
Speaker 5: just skillful play on her part. She has a bit
Speaker 5: of movement to the game, but it's you have a
Speaker 5: look at the spots where she shoots from and it's
Speaker 5: always that baseline.
Speaker 1: So still had ten more attempts.
Speaker 5: So you look at the game and as the game progressed,
Speaker 5: I thought they deserved to win that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they did too. And I love the
Speaker 2: way that Aliadne looks quite quizzical after each you know,
Speaker 2: the camera just capt us here. But I thought the
Speaker 2: Magic had their moments. But there was an example where
Speaker 2: they really let them get away. Was in the last
Speaker 2: three minutes of the first half. Now, Savior two E
Speaker 2: shot a two pointer, so that brought the Magic up
Speaker 2: to within three twenty eight, twenty five, and then they
Speaker 2: didn't score again, and yet the steal piled on another
Speaker 2: five goals, and you know, so something is not quite
Speaker 2: right in that Magic set up. I can't offer what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 5: And we talk about consistency all the time, you know,
Speaker 5: and you have a look at it from quarter to
Speaker 5: courting and say, oh, yeah, we won the second half.
Speaker 5: You've got to try to win it all for quarters,
Speaker 5: you know, and you're not going to steal they don't really.
Speaker 1: Yes, there are times when they have the two point shot.
Speaker 5: And Georgia heffern in fact got a two pointer when
Speaker 5: it counted what last week or the week before, and
Speaker 5: it was a really critical shot.
Speaker 1: They won at the head.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, but you know they did didn't rely
Speaker 5: on any two points in this game. They were quite
Speaker 5: happy just to tag along and just go one point.
Speaker 1: They're send to pass off.
Speaker 5: Whereas Magic in the end they had to rely on
Speaker 5: two point shots. Now, Dewey got five out of nine. Okay,
Speaker 5: yes that means ten points, but also it means that
Speaker 5: when what didn't wasn't successful, it either went out of
Speaker 5: court or the defense got the ball, which gave Steel
Speaker 5: another opportunity obviously of scoring from that. And Echanacio and
Speaker 5: we keep talking about this, what a wonderful shooters is
Speaker 5: great on the long shots, and she took two and
Speaker 5: got none in and I just don't think she has
Speaker 5: been dominant enough to date. And you can say Magics,
Speaker 5: they haven't got a great leader at the moment.
Speaker 1: What does leadership mean?
Speaker 5: And I talk about that, and it's about someone that
Speaker 5: takes charts and says, look at me, I'm doing my bit.
Speaker 1: You follow and do exactly the same.
Speaker 5: And I think magic is found wanting in that aspect
Speaker 5: of game.
Speaker 2: I've always thought that Canaca was a good leader, but
Speaker 2: I think she needs a left tenant like on her shoulder,
Speaker 2: and we just haven't, you know, quite seen that. I
Speaker 2: did enjoy though, the signs for Whens for mayor in
Speaker 2: the cloud, and I thought, oh my goodness, she'd be
Speaker 2: a good mayor. Too down for you know, in the cargo. Anyway,
Speaker 2: moving right along, because the next game of the round
Speaker 2: was polse versus Tactics. Now this was deemed as the
Speaker 2: big one. Now, whatever illness the Poles had, I think
Speaker 2: they need to hang on to it because they had
Speaker 2: no Farmu Yuani and no Whitney Soonis and so he thought,
Speaker 2: oh golly, you know, they're big time players. But they
Speaker 2: didn't miss you know, they didn't miss a beat because
Speaker 2: I think the key for them was moving Maddie Gordon
Speaker 2: into wing attack.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But and yes, we can.
Speaker 5: Talk about the mid court, but really the player that
Speaker 5: makes a difference to that team, and it was shown
Speaker 5: up in that game was Jackson. When Jackson's on form
Speaker 5: and the back end and she was active from the start,
Speaker 5: got a number of tips and it meant that the tactics,
Speaker 5: they became a bit hesitant and don't forget they start
Speaker 5: with Salmon and Bird comes on on the situation. But
Speaker 5: really Jackson was in charge. She was player of the
Speaker 5: game as it ended up, because she was consistent throughout.
Speaker 5: And that's a situation where I was talking about earlier,
Speaker 5: I will do the work everyone else you follow as well,
Speaker 5: And that's certainly the way that it was. And they
Speaker 5: really played as a unit. And again goal shooter was
Speaker 5: a dominant shooter. Warmsley fifty four out of fifty six,
Speaker 5: so very similar to done with the steel And you know,
Speaker 5: you can say, again, no one's countering that. The only
Speaker 5: thing that came through in the media was the pulses.
Speaker 5: In a situation you're going all there's concerns over the goal.
Speaker 1: Attack and Maturo.
Speaker 5: They were quoted it how many goals she would get
Speaker 5: in a game and at the moment it's an average
Speaker 5: of seven goals. Now you can say, well, so what
Speaker 5: when you've got such a dominant shooter and I understand that,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, why change something if it's working
Speaker 5: well for you And at the moment they're not having
Speaker 5: problems actually passing the ball too Warmsley. She's taking it strong,
Speaker 5: stronger than she did last year. But you know it's
Speaker 5: yeah against the Tactics in that team. In that game
Speaker 5: she only scored one goal, and you're going with this,
Speaker 5: Warmsley goes down.
Speaker 1: What are they going to do now?
Speaker 5: This is Matro you're talking yeah, yeah, and you can say, well,
Speaker 5: put a malasala on And I thought that, you know,
Speaker 5: they certainly, you know, should do that more often. I
Speaker 5: like her change in play. But having said that, Matul
Speaker 5: feeds Warmsley the best out of the two of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then you could you then mount the argument,
Speaker 2: well doesn't matter if she doesn't shoot. I think it
Speaker 2: does myself. But look my pressure on Womsley. A lot
Speaker 2: of pressure and interesting no interesting position for the Pulse
Speaker 2: because they've only there's two rounds to go, the two
Speaker 2: gay teams. They have to play the Stars and the Magic.
Speaker 2: Now look where they are on the table and you
Speaker 2: know we anyway, we'll talk about that in a moment.
Speaker 1: It's interesting.
Speaker 5: Sorry, but like still would have watched that game and
Speaker 5: they would have really wanted the Tactics to win that
Speaker 5: because they're in the fight against the Pulse. So this
Speaker 5: has made it even more interesting in the whole competition.
Speaker 2: Ladder, Well, it has and gosh, it's been a funny
Speaker 2: old season, hasn't it. So the last game of the
Speaker 2: round was the Stars versus the Mystics. You know, the
Speaker 2: poor old Stars cheap as they've had a tough season.
Speaker 2: Oh and I should mention too before we leave the
Speaker 2: Pulse Aleana Pulliata played. I think she played the whole game.
Speaker 2: I just have such admiration for her. Three acls. She's
Speaker 2: come back from you know, I just I think that's amazing.
Speaker 5: And Pulse, if you have a look at it, you're
Speaker 5: almost saying welcome back. You know, we saw it in
Speaker 5: the first round and we really haven't seen it as
Speaker 5: a team as a collective unit until this And I
Speaker 5: now look at them and going you're worthy of a
Speaker 5: top three absolutely.
Speaker 2: Anyway, getting back to that Stars Mystics game, Yeah, the Stars,
Speaker 2: well they were able to I mean I think what
Speaker 2: they were close ish at the end of the first
Speaker 2: quarter and then it just got away from them. They
Speaker 2: Mystics were hugely strong in the second half. Danelle Wallain
Speaker 2: was back yep, and she made a big difference.
Speaker 5: She did because they could just turn and pass the
Speaker 5: ball to it, although Mystics obviously have survived even without her.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it was a situation while I'm again for
Speaker 5: forty six dominant shooter in there, although Vouie did come
Speaker 5: through with eight out of eleven and she got two
Speaker 5: out of three points shots as well. What I liked
Speaker 5: about that she took them not because they were losing,
Speaker 5: but because they were winning. But you got to appreciate
Speaker 5: Mistics is in a situation now that gold differential may
Speaker 5: come into it because they're in a fight with Tactics
Speaker 5: for that top spot and it may come down to
Speaker 5: gold differential. So whilst it was cute to make changes,
Speaker 5: it is also about making sure you get the score.
Speaker 1: And poor Stars were at the end of it. What
Speaker 1: was it interesting?
Speaker 5: I thought they I said, put Johnson on you because
Speaker 5: she adds experience. She was injured, so another injury to
Speaker 5: the Stars, and I mean, you know they were so
Speaker 5: limited in who they could put it out.
Speaker 1: I thought you'd be.
Speaker 2: Waiting for the call up yourself.
Speaker 1: But you're right, they were in it for the first half.
Speaker 5: And I think that's what's so frustrating for Timmy Parra
Speaker 5: Bailey as the coach, that they just couldn't keep it together.
Speaker 5: And once again the word comes to mind, inconsistent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we saw again pet Hoop on the goal attack.
Speaker 2: But now, I know you don't like this, do you.
Speaker 5: She's a wing attack, you know, and you like they
Speaker 5: can say, oh, yes, but she's tray.
Speaker 1: You know, she's practiced, you know, in the season. Have
Speaker 1: a look at it.
Speaker 5: The reason I'm not saying that she doesn't add quality
Speaker 5: because you have a look at it. She's still able
Speaker 5: to feed walm and from But I'm saying you can
Speaker 5: feed her as a wing attack, you don't need to
Speaker 5: do that as a goal attack. Now when she came on,
Speaker 5: did she stay on for the rest of the game. No,
Speaker 5: Vuie came back on. So there's nothing wrong with Vuie's play.
Speaker 5: And I'm going, I just don't think that's necessary. They
Speaker 5: may say, you know, it's just in case. Yeah, I can,
Speaker 5: I can see that, But you know, is she really
Speaker 5: at the moment that third shooter Because they've still got
Speaker 5: Glen on the bench as well, whether she's injured or
Speaker 5: not or whatever, you know, she is on the bench
Speaker 5: for them. So I look at that and I'm going,
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, is that a necessity to put it
Speaker 5: in the goal attack position.
Speaker 2: Well, that remains to be seen, but we should have
Speaker 2: a quick look at the next round, round nine, because
Speaker 2: I think these are all pretty cut and dried. First game,
Speaker 2: Pulse versus Stars.
Speaker 5: Yep, you'd have to go with Pulse if they you know,
Speaker 5: if they now looking at it and going, listen, that
Speaker 5: was our performance last week. You know, we's just been
Speaker 5: so you know, that's a performance they need to bring
Speaker 5: through and starts still in a situation they've got players
Speaker 5: out and you know, yeah, you can say they've got
Speaker 5: to try to get off the bottom. They really just
Speaker 5: want to try to get some unity back in the
Speaker 5: flow of that degree.
Speaker 2: The next game is the Mystics deal now that, oh
Speaker 2: I can't help but think that I would quite like
Speaker 2: the Steal to win that.
Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah, that'll be interesting, will be
Speaker 1: But it's a situation.
Speaker 5: Mystics did not play at their best against the Stars,
Speaker 5: you know, because the Stars are in it for quite
Speaker 5: a period of time, so they will look at that
Speaker 5: and they know it wasn't a complete performance and they
Speaker 5: certainly will need a far more complete performance against the
Speaker 5: steel because the Steeler now saying, hey, listen.
Speaker 1: We're hanging in there.
Speaker 5: We're really you know, coming to the party and they
Speaker 5: want that third spot.
Speaker 2: Yes, now explain to me again, So that third spot
Speaker 2: is well, you want the top spot, don't you, because
Speaker 2: that way you go straight through to the final.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not because people say, oh, yeah, you want
Speaker 5: the top spot because then you've got your home final advantage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bit more than that.
Speaker 5: Obviously, you want to be You don't want that extra
Speaker 5: game because two place three loser goes home and story,
Speaker 5: so you know that's a game you really don't want
Speaker 5: to be involved. And at the moment, there's not really
Speaker 5: one team that has been consistent throughout.
Speaker 1: We would have said the Tactics until they.
Speaker 5: Played the Pulse this week, and now we're going, what's
Speaker 5: happened to the Tactics because certainly that was not their
Speaker 5: best performance against the Pulse.
Speaker 2: Well, we've been saying that it has been the most
Speaker 2: inconsistent season.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The good thing about it though, with the two rounds,
Speaker 5: every game's counting, and every bonus point can also count
Speaker 5: because don't forget, you get within five, you get a
Speaker 5: bonus point, so that's counting. And right now we're sitting here,
Speaker 5: we don't know who's going to be the top. We
Speaker 5: know that Tactics and Mystics will be there, but we
Speaker 5: don't know which order. And also at the moment, we
Speaker 5: don't know who's going to be third, and at the
Speaker 5: moment it's going to be between what Pulse and Steel.
Speaker 5: So it's still a very active competition with only two
Speaker 5: rounds to.
Speaker 2: Go, which is very good. Now, just quickly, speaking of
Speaker 2: active competition competition, big upset across the Tasman The Swifts
Speaker 2: lost to the sixth place Mavericks, and I think that
Speaker 2: was considered quite an upset Grace Wiki she played pretty
Speaker 2: well and the Giants had to win as well over
Speaker 2: the Firebirds.
Speaker 1: So interesting.
Speaker 5: Just on the last game, don't forr Tactics is playing Magic.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, coming out because we didn't even go there. Yes,
Speaker 5: and Tactics wouldn't like that we did go there, So
Speaker 5: Tactics in a situation now that performance obviously wasn't their
Speaker 5: best performance, so they will be looking at an improved
Speaker 5: performance again. They are looking for a home final, so
Speaker 5: Mystics will really be looking at that game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, worth great interest.
Speaker 5: Magic in a situation, I don't believe they've played their
Speaker 5: best and yeah there's two there's two games to go.
Speaker 1: You know, it's time.
Speaker 5: Like we keep saying to them, we know they can
Speaker 5: play better, and I'm sure they do as well, but
Speaker 5: right now they've just got it. They've got to nail it,
Speaker 5: you know, even though you can say, well I'm sitting
Speaker 5: at the we're sitting at the bottom.
Speaker 1: We're not going to be top three.
Speaker 5: No, but it's all about pride as well and just
Speaker 5: finishing off the season. And for obviously recontracting next year
Speaker 5: because that'll come into it.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, and for what competition? Where are they going
Speaker 2: to be playing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'll be a similar format that it
Speaker 1: is this year.
Speaker 5: The only problem with it is is again yeah, it's
Speaker 5: a funding issue and you know, and players are demanding payments.
Speaker 1: Now it's a different competition.
Speaker 5: Forget about the days where we just did it for
Speaker 5: the sheer, pride at the sports.
Speaker 2: And a new pair of shoes. Look, we must get
Speaker 2: on because the trialists for the under twenty one's were
Speaker 2: named during the week. The World Youth Cup that's coming
Speaker 2: up in Gibraltar. Now we are the Youth Cup champions.
Speaker 2: We won it back in twenty thirteen in Glasgow and
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen in Botswana and then it was due. There
Speaker 2: was another one due in twenty twenty one, but of
Speaker 2: course COVID put paid to that, so the head coach,
Speaker 2: Julie Seymour came up with twenty three players. There's some
Speaker 2: interesting names in these plays, you know. There's some well,
Speaker 2: obviously Amelia Warmsley is there. There's connerly Manray and Noah.
Speaker 2: There's some big netball games. Ella Southby that's Little Southby's
Speaker 2: Southby's daughter. And also Julie Seymour's own daughter, Joe, she's there,
Speaker 2: so you know that. That's Priscilla Rasmusen she's as well.
Speaker 5: These are names obviously they yeah, and some of these
Speaker 5: The great thing about it is they've had the A
Speaker 5: n Z environment. They may not have played like Summer
Speaker 5: Tim who hasn't really played, but they've had the experience
Speaker 5: of you know, the trainings and also the court side,
Speaker 5: so they will have gained from that and they will
Speaker 5: add value a lot of the others.
Speaker 1: Don't forget our school.
Speaker 5: You know, I was gonna say school because just youngsters,
Speaker 5: and they are youngsters. But this is a really important tournament.
Speaker 5: I love this this tournament and it sets you up
Speaker 5: obviously for Silver Fern selection in the future, but what
Speaker 5: an opportunity for these players. So yeah, I think these
Speaker 5: trials I think they're over two three days an end
Speaker 5: of July. Yeah, and again it'll also be about fitness testing.
Speaker 5: It'll be a whole series. Is not just going to
Speaker 5: be out on court that they're playing against one another.
Speaker 1: And you know, don't forget that. You know the NNL competition.
Speaker 5: You know the selectors will have cited all that, so
Speaker 5: you've seen them in an active club competition besides just
Speaker 5: having two days of trial so to speak.
Speaker 1: So a bit of pressure on.
Speaker 5: These youngsters, but we need that going into future A
Speaker 5: and Z selection.
Speaker 2: Now, is there a lot of pressure on Julie Seamool
Speaker 2: because her daughter is one of the one of the trials.
Speaker 5: Not really not actually for the selection process because they
Speaker 5: will have other selectors there and I know that she
Speaker 5: would then count on those people. The problem it comes, well,
Speaker 5: not a problem but if they make the team, because
Speaker 5: sometimes you know, and I've seen it in the past
Speaker 5: whereby the mum is quite quite hard on the daughter
Speaker 5: and the actual team or they actually just bypass them
Speaker 5: and don't say anything. So there needs to be a balance,
Speaker 5: and that's where I think the assistant coach comes into it.
Speaker 2: Yes, I suppose that's exactly right. I remember coaching my
Speaker 2: daughter and the west Lake team, one of the lower teams,
Speaker 2: and it got to a point where I just simply
Speaker 2: couldn't coach her anymore because of or she wouldn't take
Speaker 2: any notice of what I was saying.
Speaker 1: So that was why that situation problem. That situation.
Speaker 5: Last week, I was helping Bernie's mini and her daughter
Speaker 5: is in the team, in the in the team, and
Speaker 5: I'm going, well, say something or though you say it,
Speaker 5: you know, that was quite cute and I understand that.
Speaker 5: But the main thing is that you know, like in
Speaker 5: this situation, if it's school or club, that you don't
Speaker 5: take it home because that's when you need to separate
Speaker 5: from being a coach and then being a mum. And
Speaker 5: I think these play these coaches, you know, Julie's pretty
Speaker 5: experience in.
Speaker 2: The absolutely Now the other main or big news that
Speaker 2: came out last week we touched on it briefly last
Speaker 2: week was the World Netball and the fact that it's
Speaker 2: going down to well not down to it's higher frequency
Speaker 2: every two years now. Now, I you know, I do
Speaker 2: think that this is a good thing because it needs
Speaker 2: Netbule's pro well needs to be lifted. But it's going
Speaker 2: to add costs, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I found news thing people saying that they really thought
Speaker 5: it was a great thing, and I'm against it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think with four years, you have bragging rights, and
Speaker 5: you have bragging rights for four years, and that's just
Speaker 5: a wonderful, wonderful time. And you know, it's that time
Speaker 5: frame that's involved. Whereas if it's every two years, if
Speaker 5: you lose out, you know one time, it's okay, you
Speaker 5: only have to wait two years before you have the
Speaker 5: bragging rights again. So that's a change there. Also, the
Speaker 5: question now becomes do we not have Comonwealth games anymore?
Speaker 1: And I like Commonwealth games.
Speaker 5: Because it allows being involved in a couple It allows
Speaker 5: players to cite other sports as well, and just to
Speaker 5: get that interaction with other sports, which I think is
Speaker 5: really important. I probably didn't as a coach do that enough.
Speaker 5: I was quite you know, focused on the nepple side
Speaker 5: of it. But I can see you're kind of broaden
Speaker 5: that so you're going to miss out. So I don't
Speaker 5: know about the Commonwealth Games and if they're still in there, WHOA,
Speaker 5: that is a tight shed. And also which countries can
Speaker 5: afford to have a team every two years, and also
Speaker 5: which countries can actually host it? And I bet you anything,
Speaker 5: it's the main countries that will always host it. And
Speaker 5: it's the main countries that are saying what a wonderful
Speaker 5: thing this is because some of the countries, and I
Speaker 5: just heard recently and I saw it in the media,
Speaker 5: Tong was saying, whoa, you know, sometimes we have trouble
Speaker 5: getting a team together for a.
Speaker 1: Four year cycle.
Speaker 5: And also it is a funding aspect that comes into
Speaker 5: it as well.
Speaker 1: You know, whoever pays for that.
Speaker 5: And you know, so when it comes down to two years,
Speaker 5: are you going to have sixteen teams in that? And
Speaker 5: don't forget they want to split it to top eight
Speaker 5: and bottom eight.
Speaker 1: There's lots of things that come into this equation.
Speaker 2: And it's all very well when they're in well they're
Speaker 2: being held in some of the wealthier countries. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've heard talk about the twenty twenty nine because the
Speaker 2: next one's in Sydney twenty twenty seven. Twenty twenty nine
Speaker 2: might be in the Middle East somewhere, So you I know,
Speaker 2: I have to think there's a bit of money there
Speaker 2: or I mean, who knows. It's just like so many
Speaker 2: things in netball at the moment, we just have to
Speaker 2: wait and see. But that's it. Time's up. We've made
Speaker 2: it so well. It was quick, yes, but listen, Eyvon
Speaker 2: and I will be back next week. We'll be joined
Speaker 2: by storm Purpose, the wonderful Storm Purpose. So until then,
Speaker 2: enjoy all Is Marves Netball. Marty wa