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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Happy thirty seventh birthday to former Keiwi's forward and Warriors

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Speaker 2: double century and Ben Mattaleno, Happy sixty fourth to Scottish

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Speaker 2: rugby legend Gavin Hastings. I'm Jason Pine, producer Andy McDonald

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Speaker 2: back for twenty twenty six. We're here talking sport with

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Speaker 2: you until three o'clock this afternoon. One of our great

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Speaker 2: middle distance runners, Rod Dixon, leading us off. He's been

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Speaker 2: made an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit

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Speaker 2: for services to athletics in the New Year's Honors. He's

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Speaker 2: standing by the chat to us with his reflections on

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Speaker 2: an absolutely iconic running career. So Rod Dixon first up.

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Speaker 2: Other matters around today, Canterbury have made a strong start,

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Speaker 2: unsurprisingly to the men's Super Smash season two from two.

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Speaker 2: They take on CD in Nelson this afternoon. Canterbury open

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Speaker 2: to Chad bows In for a chat a bit later

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Speaker 2: this hour. The A League men's season has been an

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Speaker 2: absolute cracker, completely unpredictable, often chaotic teams doing things that

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Speaker 2: you do not expect them to do. Two time A

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Speaker 2: League champion and our commentator and analyst Eric Partalou with

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Speaker 2: us after one o'clock to try and break it all down.

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Speaker 2: The Wellington Phoenix men and women both in action today,

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Speaker 2: were a bit later on actually a doubleheader at Radcliffe.

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Speaker 2: They both face the Brisbane Raw, the men first at seven,

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Speaker 2: the women at nine. Forty five. Women's strikert Emma Main

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Speaker 2: will become the fourth player to bring up fifty games

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Speaker 2: for the Wellington Phoenix women in tonight's game. She joins

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Speaker 2: us for a chat. As in our sports News, the

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Speaker 2: draw for the Women's ASB Classic going to be made

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Speaker 2: in under an hour one o'clock. Tournament director Nicholas Lampern

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Speaker 2: is in to review the draw just after two, and

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Speaker 2: also in our sports news you would have heard that

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Speaker 2: we have our finalists for the World Darts Championship. Luke

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Speaker 2: Littler Jean van ven Ben Francis, our darts analyst here

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Speaker 2: on a weekend sport going to join us to give

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Speaker 2: us prospects for that and also break down the two

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Speaker 2: semi finals. Adam Peacock with his look at Australian sporting matters,

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Speaker 2: in particular the retirement announcement yesterday of usman Kowaja was

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Speaker 2: it yesterday? Yeah, yesterday and prospects for the fifth Ashes

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Speaker 2: Test which starts in Sydney tomorrow Live Sport This afternoon

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Speaker 2: I mentioned the super smash in Nelson CD against Canterbury.

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Speaker 2: The women's game underway at twelve forty. Will keep eyes

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Speaker 1: From breaking down the Hail Mary's and the every fails.

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Speaker 3: Weekends for it with Jason time New Sork Zenby.

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Speaker 2: One of our greatest middle distance runners, Rod Dixon, has

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Speaker 2: Rod Dixon was an incredibly versatile runner with a competitive

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Speaker 2: career which spanned nearly two decades across as many many

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Speaker 2: achievements in numerous disciplines. He won bronze in the fifteen

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Speaker 4: What Dixon's Aressmith let me over the last prize. Dixon

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Speaker 4: a tremendous contpactison here at New York nineteen ny three

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Speaker 2: Out of basilion, absolutely connick. He remains Rod Dixon the

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Speaker 2: He competed in three Olympic Games, in two Commonwealth Games,

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Speaker 5: Well, it's yeah, it's I guess. I think in my

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Speaker 5: earlier days it wasn't that interested. I was more focused

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Speaker 5: we know the journey. We know the journey.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's look at your journey. You grew up in Nilsen.

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Speaker 2: How did you catch the running bug?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think my primary school teachers have figured out

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Speaker 5: that seeing my day. In my day, if you misbehaved,

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Speaker 5: And of course the pitcher kept telling my mother, he says,

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Speaker 5: I will not misbehave. Well, I stopped misbehaving. I didn't

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Speaker 5: It was my DNA, it was absolutely and I joined

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Speaker 5: At meeting Sir Edmund Hillary in nineteen sixty at Tonnuis School.

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Speaker 5: No, I think it was just you know there again,

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Speaker 2: I guess given your cross country background, when you did

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Speaker 5: Why was that, Well, it was because I was inspired

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Speaker 5: That was something that was very, very powerful.

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Speaker 2: Did it feel attainable to you? You had your brother

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Speaker 5: been drinking? I mean it was like, I mean they couldn't,

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Speaker 5: And I think that was when my brother John said,

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Speaker 5: Well, I think yeah, John, having been coached with George mackenzie,

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Speaker 5: John figured it out. And of course in those early days,

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Speaker 5: the Lydiad used to come to Nelson because he worked

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Speaker 5: I just was just motivated and inspired to I mean,

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Speaker 5: I couldn't wait for each day's training. It was amazing.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about what happened on the track

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Speaker 2: in Munich in a moment, but those Olympics overshadowed, of course,

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Speaker 5: We were right next door and sometimes when we would

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Speaker 5: Dick Taylor and as Terry Manners, who is the marathon runner,

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Speaker 5: forty seven rifle. We couldn't belave. But within about ten

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Speaker 2: How how did you handle that? Rod Well? I mean

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Speaker 5: he worked with us for emotional and spiritual blessings for

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Speaker 5: do that. We live with this every day of our lives.

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Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely inspiring. Because of the schools that I go to,

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Speaker 5: the first thing the kids tell me is that what

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Speaker 5: about Sam moves? We want to be like him? So

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Speaker 5: he is. He's been an incredible inspiration. And you know

433
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Speaker 5: the Sam Tanners and Jordy Beamish and you know Nick.

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Speaker 5: It's just been amazing the inspiration that those athletes have

435
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Speaker 5: been able to share around the country and kids today

436
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Speaker 5: see are very very enthused. And here we had the

437
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Speaker 5: spectacle here at Nelson and the highest number of first

438
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Speaker 5: time runners running ten k's and five k's and fifty k's.

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Speaker 5: It's just very very inspiring.

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Speaker 2: Well, as are you, Rod. It's been energizing chatting to

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Speaker 2: you as always. Congratulations on your New Year's honor as

442
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Speaker 2: I say, absolutely and thoroughly deserved, and thanks for taking

443
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Speaker 2: so much time to have a chat to us today.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Jason, and happy you're here. To everybody on

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Speaker 5: the on the planet.

446
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Speaker 2: Everybody on the planet Rod, including you. Thanks mate. Rod

447
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Speaker 2: Dixon now Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit

448
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Speaker 2: for services to athletics, named so in the.

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Speaker 10: New Year's Honors.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty five to one.

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Speaker 1: Be back in a moment the tough questions off the

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Speaker 1: turf weekends for It with Jason Hin and GJ. Gunnerholmes,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder News TALKSV.

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Speaker 2: Coming up twenty two to one. Lot of feedback on

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Speaker 2: our chat to Rod Dixon. What a wonderful interview, says

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Speaker 2: travel What a wonderful man. Indeed, a very interesting chat

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Speaker 2: with Rod. Happy New Year to him, What an inspiring man.

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Speaker 2: This interview will be hard to beat, says Gavin Cheap

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Speaker 2: As I hope we can beat it it's only the

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Speaker 2: third of January. Piney Rod Dixon bloody legend. I loved

461
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Speaker 2: hearing him relive running the tangents in the New York Marathon.

462
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Speaker 2: He said, that's the interesting thing about the marathon, as

463
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Speaker 2: I'm not speaking from experience here, just from observation, but

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Speaker 2: when you run the marathon, it's not like running around

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Speaker 2: a track and that you know you're doing four hundred

466
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Speaker 2: meters or whatever it is. There are clearly ways to

467
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Speaker 2: make sure that you run the shortest distance possible, and

468
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Speaker 2: in a very close marathon, which nineteen eighty three was

469
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Speaker 2: in New York, running those tangents clearly helped Rod Dixon out.

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Speaker 2: Trissas So enjoying the interview with Rod. What a lovely

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Speaker 2: speaking man. Happy New Year and someone else's it wasn't

472
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Speaker 2: it great that Arthur Lydy had worked for Rothmannd's It's

473
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Speaker 2: quite ironic, isn't it quite ironic? Indeed, the other athletes

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Speaker 2: who were honored on New Year's Day, Sir Scott Dixon

475
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Speaker 2: speaking of Dixon's, Sir Scott for services to Motors Board,

476
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Speaker 2: of course Rod Dixon. Lorraine Moller for services to Athletics.

477
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Speaker 2: VLL Smith, another Nelsonian for services to outdoor bowls, Ronnie

478
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Speaker 2: Clark for services to the Pacific community and to rugby,

479
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Speaker 2: and Martin Gupdel member of the New Zealand Order of

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Speaker 2: Metaphor services to cricket. Then we had Judith Hamilton, longtime

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Speaker 2: rowing coach, and a bunch of administrators and volunteers also recognized,

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Speaker 2: Greg Barclay, Quinn, Brian Davies, Ian Potter, Shirley Hooper, Malcolm McKee,

483
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Speaker 2: Jenny Nahu and Gary Whittele. Look, I know not everybody

484
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Speaker 2: agrees with the honors system and the fact that sports

485
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Speaker 2: people are often recognized in this way, and I think

486
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Speaker 2: most most of the recipients are very humble in their

487
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Speaker 2: receipt of these awards. But what it does get us

488
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Speaker 2: the opportunity to do is to relive moments like we

489
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Speaker 2: did with Rod Dixon and to hear his reflections and

490
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Speaker 2: to soak in his enthusiasm. So yeah, great to do

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Speaker 2: just before we go to break. Jason, hopefully one of

492
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Speaker 2: your New Year's resolutions will be to cover more texts

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Speaker 2: or at least have a cone head summarize the key themes.

494
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Speaker 2: It's a bit of a waste of time sending in

495
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Speaker 2: text compared to the number that you actually read. Look,

496
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Speaker 2: I do have a conehead. Andy is his name. I

497
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Speaker 2: must say though we do receive a lot of text

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Speaker 2: messages and we could fill up the whole sh oh

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Speaker 2: reading them out. We don't get to them all. As

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Speaker 2: I've often said, though we do read them all and

501
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Speaker 2: we appreciate you sending them. Twenty to one. Let's go

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Speaker 2: for another break, come back and talk some cricket. Chad

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Speaker 2: Bows opening batsman for Canterbury the start of the Super Smash. Well,

504
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Speaker 2: they play CD and Nelson this afternoon. Chad Bow's going

505
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Speaker 2: to join us for a chat after this.

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Speaker 1: The biggest things in sport are on Weekend Sports with

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Speaker 1: Jason Paine and GJ. Gubnoholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder,

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Speaker 1: News Talks INB.

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Speaker 2: News Talks AB. Canterbury have made a strong start to

510
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Speaker 2: the Men Super Smash Cricket season two from two. They

511
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Speaker 2: take on CD and Nelson this afternoon. Canterbry up to

512
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Speaker 2: Chad Bows is with us. Chad thanks for joining us.

513
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Speaker 2: On match day forty off twenty seven against Otago just

514
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Speaker 2: after Christmas and sixty two off thirty seven balls against

515
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Speaker 2: CD and christ Chi John New Year's Day, you're obviously

516
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Speaker 2: hitting it, okay. How happy are you with the start

517
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Speaker 2: to the Super Smash season?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Thanks man, I appreciate that it has been a good

520
00:31:02,227 --> 00:31:07,747
Speaker 11: start personally and collectively obviously. I mean, look, in this format,

521
00:31:08,187 --> 00:31:11,427
Speaker 11: you can't always guarantee when performances will come around. So

522
00:31:12,667 --> 00:31:15,227
Speaker 11: you know, when it's your day, you try and cash in,

523
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Speaker 11: and you know there'll be days where it's.

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Speaker 10: Not going your way.

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Speaker 11: But I mean all you can do is try your

526
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Speaker 11: best and use your strengths and hopefully it works out

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Speaker 11: on the day and we'll see what transpires are later

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Speaker 11: on today.

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Speaker 2: You've been playing T twenty cricket now for well over

530
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Speaker 2: a decade. How much is the way you bat in

531
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Speaker 2: T twenty changed in that time?

532
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd say it's evolved.

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Speaker 11: I think every player evolves, you know, as a cricketer. Anyway,

534
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Speaker 11: I think when I first started, I didn't have enough

535
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Speaker 11: power and I didn't trust myself to hit players back

536
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Speaker 11: over the head, so I was using a lot of

537
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Speaker 11: laps and reverse laps and sweep some things like that.

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Speaker 11: Where I think I've formed a better foundation of I

539
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Speaker 11: guess powerheading to trust myself to hit strong shots. Obviously,

540
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Speaker 11: I've better at the top my whole career really, so

541
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Speaker 11: that the powerplay has been my niche, so to speak.

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Speaker 10: So I've been able to, I.

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Speaker 11: Guess, understand myself and my own strengths and how to

544
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Speaker 11: utilize that powerplay the best way I can. Obviously, I

545
00:32:25,307 --> 00:32:27,467
Speaker 11: don't need to always hit sixers in the power play,

546
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Speaker 11: you know. Through through the gaps we'll do just fine

547
00:32:29,507 --> 00:32:33,147
Speaker 11: as well, and I'll leave the big the bigger heading

548
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Speaker 11: for the boys down the order. But yeah, I think

549
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Speaker 11: there's there's always a natural evolution to two players throughout

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Speaker 11: their careers.

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Speaker 2: Well, it seems to come off the bed, okay mate,

552
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Speaker 2: if I'm honest, through the gaps and over the over

553
00:32:44,227 --> 00:32:47,067
Speaker 2: the fence as well, interested as well, and in the

554
00:32:47,187 --> 00:32:50,747
Speaker 2: dynamic of being an opener, because well, if you bat first,

555
00:32:50,827 --> 00:32:52,587
Speaker 2: you have no idea what that pitchure is going to do.

556
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Speaker 2: Even if you're bat second, you know no your mates

557
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Speaker 2: have been out there, So how do you negotiate the

558
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Speaker 2: challenge of being there from ball one? In T twenty?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I mean you can say that across all formats. Really,

560
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Speaker 11: the difference in T twenty cricket is you don't actually

561
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Speaker 11: have the time to kind of just hang around and

562
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Speaker 11: see what's going on. You've got to hit your strap

563
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Speaker 11: straight away. So and that's where you know, it can

564
00:33:18,067 --> 00:33:21,347
Speaker 11: be a fickle format where you know, you make one

565
00:33:21,427 --> 00:33:23,907
Speaker 11: or two minor errors and that can be your day done.

566
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Speaker 11: You may not even make errors on your day could

567
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Speaker 11: be done just because there's always quality boilers upfront to

568
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Speaker 11: utilize the new ball, and you know, we we have

569
00:33:33,427 --> 00:33:36,067
Speaker 11: a lot of good bilers in this country. We've seen

570
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Speaker 11: the depth coming to the black Caps recently from domestic cricket.

571
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Speaker 11: There's some seriously good, good players around the traps. So

572
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Speaker 11: it's a challenge, but I guess the beauty of opening

573
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Speaker 11: is that you know the situation that you're going to

574
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Speaker 11: be confronted with every game, even though the conditions might

575
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Speaker 11: might be different, you understand what's in front of you.

576
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Speaker 11: So that's that's the challenge is to try and combat

577
00:34:04,147 --> 00:34:06,627
Speaker 11: you know, some good boilers with the new ball and

578
00:34:06,627 --> 00:34:12,187
Speaker 11: and potentially conditions that you're unsure of. But it's to

579
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Speaker 11: you know, be courageous and brave and trust your strength

580
00:34:14,987 --> 00:34:19,587
Speaker 11: and commit to a style of play that you know

581
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Speaker 11: won't come off all the time. But that's that's how

582
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Speaker 11: this game works.

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, you are an all format cricketer for Canterbury,

584
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Speaker 2: well over one hundred games in all three formats, closing

585
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Speaker 2: in on twelve thousand runs across the three combined. Where

586
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Speaker 2: does T twenty six? Is it your favorite format?

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Speaker 11: I wouldn't use the word favorite because they are all

588
00:34:43,747 --> 00:34:46,627
Speaker 11: very different in their own right. You know that there's

589
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Speaker 11: I enjoy aspects of all three formats, and I don't

590
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Speaker 11: enjoy some aspects of all three formats too. You know,

591
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Speaker 11: the beauty of T twenty cricket is that it's the

592
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Speaker 11: closest to a lot of other sports codes and talment

593
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Speaker 11: in terms of length of time that you play the

594
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Speaker 11: game for, the intensity, the speed, the entertainment factor as well.

595
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Speaker 11: So you know, you know, you know you're playing for

596
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Speaker 11: three hours, You're going to you know, give it your

597
00:35:11,427 --> 00:35:15,707
Speaker 11: best crack. It's high intensity when it's your day, it's

598
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Speaker 11: it's really enjoyable and you know there's instant feedback from

599
00:35:20,387 --> 00:35:24,387
Speaker 11: from the crowd, whereas the other formats, your kind of

600
00:35:24,427 --> 00:35:27,427
Speaker 11: rewards are more long lasting and it's a longer effort

601
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Speaker 11: to obviously get that, and there's I guess more inner

602
00:35:29,787 --> 00:35:34,747
Speaker 11: satisfaction when it comes to those performances. So look, it's

603
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Speaker 11: hard to compare between them all. But the nice thing is,

604
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Speaker 11: you know, the T twenty campaign is over the summer holidays.

605
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Speaker 11: There's always a nice atmosphere on the ground and energy,

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Speaker 11: so it is a very enjoyable occasion every time we play.

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Speaker 2: And I know it's a team game, but surely this

608
00:35:51,627 --> 00:35:54,107
Speaker 2: first T twenty century's got to get ticked off soon

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I didn't want to bring it up, but.

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Speaker 10: I guess it's in the back of the head. It's

612
00:36:08,227 --> 00:36:09,307
Speaker 10: hard to come by. Obviously.

613
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Speaker 11: I feel like it's just going to be my day.

614
00:36:13,547 --> 00:36:17,547
Speaker 11: If it happens, things will will fall that way. It's

615
00:36:17,667 --> 00:36:20,827
Speaker 11: very hard to come out and play a T twent

616
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Speaker 11: inning saying when I try and score hundred, because that's

617
00:36:23,107 --> 00:36:25,547
Speaker 11: not really what you set out to do. It's usually

618
00:36:25,827 --> 00:36:28,267
Speaker 11: the role let's get the team off to a good start,

619
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Speaker 11: but the opposition and pressure and if that carries on

620
00:36:32,507 --> 00:36:34,707
Speaker 11: into kind of the ten or fifteenth over, then you're

621
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Speaker 11: having a really.

622
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Speaker 10: Good day as an opener.

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Speaker 11: So to get that hundred, I guess it's just a

624
00:36:40,107 --> 00:36:42,867
Speaker 11: case of that's just got to extend for a little

625
00:36:42,867 --> 00:36:46,747
Speaker 11: while longer, and if it's my day, then you know

626
00:36:46,787 --> 00:36:47,707
Speaker 11: that that will happen.

627
00:36:48,067 --> 00:36:49,347
Speaker 10: But it's very hard.

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Speaker 11: To try and actually say I'm going to I'm going

629
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Speaker 11: to get one hundred this campaign because it either works

630
00:36:55,147 --> 00:36:56,547
Speaker 11: out that way or what doesn't.

631
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that day will arrive, probably when you

632
00:36:59,107 --> 00:37:02,427
Speaker 2: least expect that, actually, but exactly sure it will arrive.

633
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Speaker 2: How can I cannibrate to win this thing? I mean,

634
00:37:04,787 --> 00:37:06,987
Speaker 2: you've made the fine of what the last five seasons,

635
00:37:07,387 --> 00:37:09,987
Speaker 2: one of them was rhin effected, and you haven't lifted

636
00:37:09,987 --> 00:37:11,867
Speaker 2: the silver away. How can are you to win this thing?

637
00:37:13,787 --> 00:37:16,747
Speaker 11: I mean, just as keen as every other season. But

638
00:37:16,827 --> 00:37:20,107
Speaker 11: obviously you know, the reality is it's it's been very

639
00:37:20,147 --> 00:37:24,947
Speaker 11: close but not close enough for for a period of years.

640
00:37:25,027 --> 00:37:30,027
Speaker 11: So the hunger is not anymore just because we haven't

641
00:37:30,827 --> 00:37:34,387
Speaker 11: got it. We're a professional team who you know, who

642
00:37:34,467 --> 00:37:36,547
Speaker 11: want to win games a cricket and bringing silverware no

643
00:37:36,587 --> 00:37:37,227
Speaker 11: matter what.

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Speaker 10: Format it is.

645
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Speaker 11: But I mean, there's no running away from the fact

646
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Speaker 11: that we've missed out consecutively the last five years. So

647
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Speaker 11: it's a conversation we were aware of. We're not putting

648
00:37:52,667 --> 00:37:57,787
Speaker 11: any more pressure on ourselves. Uh Yeah, it's something that

649
00:37:57,827 --> 00:38:01,387
Speaker 11: we we will, I guess look to towards the end

650
00:38:01,427 --> 00:38:04,867
Speaker 11: of the tournament whether or not that's you know, going

651
00:38:04,947 --> 00:38:11,387
Speaker 11: to be within our control again and hopefully if we're

652
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Speaker 11: good enough then we can get a hand in it.

653
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Speaker 11: But yeah, that's it's obviously been missing for a while.

654
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Speaker 2: And the structure of the summer is as such that

655
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Speaker 2: you you know the formats all you switch between the

656
00:38:22,987 --> 00:38:25,467
Speaker 2: formats for trophy, then to planket shield into the super

657
00:38:25,507 --> 00:38:28,707
Speaker 2: Smash and then back into the other formats. Always interested

658
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Speaker 2: as far as bad as are concerned, how you manage

659
00:38:32,027 --> 00:38:35,547
Speaker 2: the challenge of switching between the formats? How do you

660
00:38:35,587 --> 00:38:35,867
Speaker 2: do that?

661
00:38:39,227 --> 00:38:39,467
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: A lot of it probably would be.

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Speaker 11: Personal changes from player to player, depend on how they

664
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Speaker 11: depending on how they prepare. Just generally speaking for me,

665
00:38:51,867 --> 00:38:56,307
Speaker 11: a lot of it's a mental shift, not necessarily tactical

666
00:38:56,427 --> 00:39:00,947
Speaker 11: or technical shift. Some guys like to hit a lot

667
00:39:00,987 --> 00:39:04,587
Speaker 11: of balls in the new format and train, you know,

668
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Speaker 11: there their body and mind to get back into a

669
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Speaker 11: new groove. We don't often have the luxury of time

670
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Speaker 11: or sources to do that, so a lot of it

671
00:39:17,027 --> 00:39:20,587
Speaker 11: comes down to your mental ability to shift into a

672
00:39:20,627 --> 00:39:25,947
Speaker 11: new space, a new game, plan new application of strengths

673
00:39:26,947 --> 00:39:29,307
Speaker 11: and also you know the nature of playing for a

674
00:39:29,347 --> 00:39:31,907
Speaker 11: while as you kind of get used to doing that

675
00:39:32,067 --> 00:39:35,507
Speaker 11: and understand how to do it for yourself, where you know,

676
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Speaker 11: if you're just start going out it might be a

677
00:39:37,387 --> 00:39:41,027
Speaker 11: bit of trial and error. So for me, it's more

678
00:39:41,187 --> 00:39:44,427
Speaker 11: a mental shift, and I've been able to do that

679
00:39:44,587 --> 00:39:47,747
Speaker 11: enough times to trust you know, my method and our processes.

680
00:39:48,467 --> 00:39:52,467
Speaker 11: Sometimes for me it's it's doing less instead of doing more,

681
00:39:54,067 --> 00:39:59,267
Speaker 11: so keeping things really simple sometimes it's not even hitting

682
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Speaker 11: that many balls and just kind of having that freedom

683
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Speaker 11: of mind to just be present in the new format

684
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Speaker 11: and not bring any any baggage.

685
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Speaker 2: Work well, it was obviously working. Got a Plunket hild

686
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Speaker 2: hundred and a Ford Trophy hundred already this summer, so

687
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Speaker 2: clearly the method you're using is working very well. Chad, Hey,

688
00:40:16,147 --> 00:40:17,507
Speaker 2: great to get the chance to chat, do you. Thanks

689
00:40:17,547 --> 00:40:19,627
Speaker 2: for taking our call on match day. All the best

690
00:40:19,627 --> 00:40:21,827
Speaker 2: against CD in Lovely Nelson this.

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Speaker 11: Afternoon, cool man, Thank you look forward to it. Yeah,

692
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Speaker 11: we look forward to it.

693
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Speaker 2: To Chad. Chad Bows from Canterbury ahead of their game

694
00:40:28,147 --> 00:40:30,907
Speaker 2: against CD this afternoon. Six and a half to one

695
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Speaker 2: News Talks AB and weekend sport approaching one o'clock after

696
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Speaker 2: one A decent look at a league football Eric partlou

697
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Speaker 2: form a double champion with Brisbane rog going to run

698
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Speaker 2: an eye over the league thus far, and we're off

699
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Speaker 2: to the darts. Ben Francis breaking down the two semi

700
00:40:46,427 --> 00:40:49,547
Speaker 2: finals this morning at Ali Pelly is being made as

701
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Speaker 2: we speak, so we'll have some news of that in

702
00:40:53,067 --> 00:40:56,187
Speaker 2: our two o'clock news and we hope to catch up

703
00:40:56,187 --> 00:40:59,227
Speaker 2: with Nicholas Lamper and the tournament director shortly after that

704
00:40:59,347 --> 00:41:02,587
Speaker 2: to get his assessment of the drawer and of the

705
00:41:02,707 --> 00:41:06,507
Speaker 2: weaker head cheap as I hope it improves where the

706
00:41:06,507 --> 00:41:08,987
Speaker 2: wise up there. It seems to be a theme every year,

707
00:41:09,067 --> 00:41:13,027
Speaker 2: isn't it? That roof can't come quickly enough on the

708
00:41:13,067 --> 00:41:16,947
Speaker 2: tennis center there at Stanley Street. But we'll talk to

709
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Speaker 2: Nicholas Lamber in around an hour from now after the

710
00:41:20,107 --> 00:41:23,467
Speaker 2: draw has been made this hour the darts Man two

711
00:41:23,547 --> 00:41:27,587
Speaker 2: incredible semis well actually one incredible semi in one fairly

712
00:41:27,627 --> 00:41:31,107
Speaker 2: comprehensive when Luke Littler and Giwan van Fayne will play

713
00:41:31,107 --> 00:41:34,427
Speaker 2: in the final tomorrow morning, New Zealand time. Ben France

714
00:41:34,547 --> 00:41:37,147
Speaker 2: is our darts expert going to break that down for US.

715
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Speaker 2: Adam Peacock out of Australia A League Football shortly they're

716
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Speaker 2: enjoying themselves in the sunshine in Nelson where there's a

717
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Speaker 2: super Smash double header today CD against Canterbury. The Hinds

718
00:41:51,427 --> 00:41:53,347
Speaker 2: have just lost their first week at Briani Smith out

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Speaker 2: for a quick fire forty five of twenty five deliveries,

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Speaker 2: but in the eighth over Central started well. There's sixty

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Speaker 2: one for one. Sixty one for one against Canterbury who

722
00:42:02,267 --> 00:42:04,787
Speaker 2: are yet to win a game this season, which is

723
00:42:04,787 --> 00:42:08,947
Speaker 2: odd really, They've got a good team. But CD with

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Speaker 2: the early running there sixty one for one and the

725
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Speaker 2: eighth over. We'll keep our eyes firmly on that for you.

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Speaker 2: How numbers eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two

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Speaker 2: nine two for your text messages, Please get in touch

728
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Speaker 2: if the fancy takes you. Football's A League continues to deliver.

729
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Speaker 2: We're into round eleven of twenty six in the regular season.

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Speaker 2: In the men's competition, Auckland FC are top, but they

731
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Speaker 2: were beaten on New Year's Day at go Media Stadium

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Speaker 2: by Newcastle. How much more time will there be?

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Speaker 5: None?

734
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Speaker 2: Is the answer? New Year's day belongs to the new

735
00:42:48,387 --> 00:42:54,427
Speaker 2: Castle Jess. The ten Men Jess incredible really. Newcastle have

736
00:42:54,587 --> 00:42:57,507
Speaker 2: come to Auckland twice now in the last five weeks

737
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Speaker 2: and gone away with the three points on both occasions.

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Speaker 2: Auckland FC are still top of the table. Brisbane Raw

739
00:43:04,787 --> 00:43:07,667
Speaker 2: can go pass them into top spot if they beat

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Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix tonight. That game kicks off at seven at

741
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Speaker 2: Cayo Stadium in Redcliffe, and Sydney FC can go past

742
00:43:15,427 --> 00:43:17,747
Speaker 2: Brisbane a few hours later if they can get three

743
00:43:17,747 --> 00:43:21,267
Speaker 2: points against Melbourne City at Amy Park. Now Melbourne Victory,

744
00:43:21,867 --> 00:43:24,627
Speaker 2: who were bottom not that long ago, or up to

745
00:43:24,787 --> 00:43:27,667
Speaker 2: fifth now after a three to two win over Perth

746
00:43:27,707 --> 00:43:31,667
Speaker 2: Glory last night. That is their fourth successive win. There

747
00:43:31,667 --> 00:43:36,387
Speaker 2: are just five points separating second from ninth on the table,

748
00:43:36,707 --> 00:43:39,467
Speaker 2: and even those teams occupying the bottom few rings of

749
00:43:39,507 --> 00:43:43,347
Speaker 2: the latter could jump into top six contention if they

750
00:43:43,387 --> 00:43:47,467
Speaker 2: were to find some consistency. Eric Partalohu was a two

751
00:43:47,507 --> 00:43:50,867
Speaker 2: time A League champion with the iconic Brisbane Raw side

752
00:43:51,347 --> 00:43:54,507
Speaker 2: of the early twenty tens. He played seventy nine matches

753
00:43:54,867 --> 00:43:58,787
Speaker 2: across three seasons with Brisbane, also had time at Melbourne City.

754
00:43:59,067 --> 00:44:03,627
Speaker 2: He played professionally in Scotland, China, Kuta, South Korea, Thailand

755
00:44:03,707 --> 00:44:07,987
Speaker 2: and India, and represented the Australian N seventeen side and

756
00:44:08,067 --> 00:44:11,307
Speaker 2: the Fall Soccer Ruse. He is now a highly respected

757
00:44:11,347 --> 00:44:14,907
Speaker 2: analyst in A League football coverage on our screens and

758
00:44:14,947 --> 00:44:18,267
Speaker 2: he joins us now, Eric, I'm not entirely sure we're

759
00:44:18,307 --> 00:44:21,307
Speaker 2: to start with so many talking points around the league.

760
00:44:21,307 --> 00:44:24,947
Speaker 2: Maybe we start on New Year's Day, Newcastle beating Auckland

761
00:44:25,067 --> 00:44:28,587
Speaker 2: FC three to one despite playing seventeen minutes of that

762
00:44:28,667 --> 00:44:31,187
Speaker 2: game with only ten men. What did you make of

763
00:44:31,667 --> 00:44:33,987
Speaker 2: the Jets defensive effort that day?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Pani, thanks for the introduction, mate, It's great to

765
00:44:37,347 --> 00:44:41,507
Speaker 12: talk with you. It's been a really interesting season so far,

766
00:44:41,627 --> 00:44:43,907
Speaker 12: hasn't it in the A League? And yeah, you wouldn't

767
00:44:43,907 --> 00:44:45,987
Speaker 12: have You wouldn't have bet your house on the Jets

768
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Speaker 12: going and getting two wins in New Zealand, would you.

769
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Speaker 12: But you know, it's it was a pretty pretty good

770
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Speaker 12: game in terms of a young Jets squad that's been

771
00:44:57,387 --> 00:45:00,627
Speaker 12: up and down and really like Marke Milligan's.

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00:45:00,147 --> 00:45:01,627
Speaker 3: Just been double downing.

773
00:45:02,787 --> 00:45:05,747
Speaker 12: On his philosophy and I think that he's just you know,

774
00:45:05,987 --> 00:45:08,867
Speaker 12: sticking with the young guys and playing forward and playing

775
00:45:08,907 --> 00:45:13,227
Speaker 12: expansive and aggressive football, and some teams can figure them

776
00:45:13,227 --> 00:45:15,587
Speaker 12: out and some teams can't. And it just seems for

777
00:45:16,507 --> 00:45:19,707
Speaker 12: teams like Auckland they're having a bit of a stutter

778
00:45:19,787 --> 00:45:22,707
Speaker 12: at the moment and not being able to figure them out.

779
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Speaker 3: But I love what I'm seeing from the A League. Planty.

780
00:45:24,747 --> 00:45:26,707
Speaker 3: It's been unpredictable and.

781
00:45:26,547 --> 00:45:29,827
Speaker 12: There's been chaos at every corner and you can't predict anything.

782
00:45:29,907 --> 00:45:30,987
Speaker 3: So it's been great.

783
00:45:31,107 --> 00:45:32,787
Speaker 2: No, it certainly has, and I want to ask you

784
00:45:32,827 --> 00:45:35,867
Speaker 2: to predict anything, but we can talk I think in

785
00:45:35,947 --> 00:45:40,107
Speaker 2: general terms. Just before we get to Aukland FC. Newcastle

786
00:45:40,187 --> 00:45:43,427
Speaker 2: have both scored the most goals and conceded the most goals,

787
00:45:43,507 --> 00:45:47,547
Speaker 2: which is very rare combo. If they can tighten up defensively,

788
00:45:47,947 --> 00:45:49,987
Speaker 2: could they play finals football for the first time in

789
00:45:50,027 --> 00:45:50,667
Speaker 2: a long time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I hope so for our sake because they are so entertaining.

792
00:45:55,787 --> 00:45:58,707
Speaker 12: But you know, like you said that, you know, losing

793
00:45:58,907 --> 00:46:02,987
Speaker 12: Sushnia to another club or going overseas at the back,

794
00:46:03,027 --> 00:46:05,987
Speaker 12: they're still had that little bit of inexperience. I'd love

795
00:46:06,027 --> 00:46:09,787
Speaker 12: to see maybe Mark Milligan gets somebody in the window

796
00:46:09,867 --> 00:46:11,667
Speaker 12: that could just show that up as a lot of

797
00:46:11,707 --> 00:46:15,147
Speaker 12: players coming off contract, I know from South Korea and

798
00:46:15,227 --> 00:46:18,227
Speaker 12: obviously Japan, so you know, watch that space. I reckon

799
00:46:18,227 --> 00:46:20,187
Speaker 12: that somebody might have to come in and steady this

800
00:46:20,227 --> 00:46:23,347
Speaker 12: ship because personnel wise they are such a young team

801
00:46:24,067 --> 00:46:26,907
Speaker 12: and Delianov needs a little bit more protection.

802
00:46:26,987 --> 00:46:27,827
Speaker 3: We've seen him give.

803
00:46:27,667 --> 00:46:30,147
Speaker 12: Away a couple of soft goals, but when you talk

804
00:46:30,187 --> 00:46:33,107
Speaker 12: about their midfield and the players they've got going for,

805
00:46:33,267 --> 00:46:36,267
Speaker 12: they're just not scared of having a go. And if

806
00:46:36,267 --> 00:46:39,347
Speaker 12: you remember last year under Rob stant And, I think

807
00:46:39,667 --> 00:46:41,787
Speaker 12: that was the season that they really got their chance

808
00:46:41,827 --> 00:46:44,987
Speaker 12: to mold and go out there and be who they

809
00:46:45,027 --> 00:46:47,227
Speaker 12: wanted to be. And this year they've got the legs

810
00:46:47,267 --> 00:46:50,507
Speaker 12: to carry them through from that experience. So yeah, it's

811
00:46:50,507 --> 00:46:52,547
Speaker 12: going to be interesting to see what happens in January.

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00:46:52,587 --> 00:46:57,187
Speaker 2: Piney do ORPENLYFC still appeal to you as a title

813
00:46:57,227 --> 00:47:00,107
Speaker 2: contender premiers last year, Look, this loss was off the

814
00:47:00,147 --> 00:47:02,787
Speaker 2: back of three wins. They still top as we said

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00:47:02,787 --> 00:47:06,347
Speaker 2: here speaking today, do they still appeal as a title contender?

816
00:47:08,027 --> 00:47:08,267
Speaker 5: Yeah?

817
00:47:08,307 --> 00:47:12,627
Speaker 3: Look, I think the best is yet to come.

818
00:47:12,707 --> 00:47:15,507
Speaker 12: Sorry, I think for Auckland, they haven't shown us their

819
00:47:15,587 --> 00:47:18,947
Speaker 12: full full set of cards. You know, Gagermo MAI's been

820
00:47:19,147 --> 00:47:21,627
Speaker 12: in and out. I think he's maybe carrying something still.

821
00:47:21,667 --> 00:47:24,307
Speaker 12: You don't see him, you know, performing like he did

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00:47:24,387 --> 00:47:26,947
Speaker 12: last year. Sacki has been in and out of the

823
00:47:26,987 --> 00:47:28,987
Speaker 12: team with injury and they're protecting him I think a

824
00:47:29,027 --> 00:47:32,027
Speaker 12: little bit longer and Pinaker as well. I don't think

825
00:47:32,027 --> 00:47:35,707
Speaker 12: they've got their settled eleven back line there just yet,

826
00:47:35,747 --> 00:47:37,387
Speaker 12: but you know, you've got players that have come in

827
00:47:37,427 --> 00:47:40,147
Speaker 12: like Lockiebrook who's just been I think, you know, top

828
00:47:40,187 --> 00:47:43,547
Speaker 12: two or three players in the competition. He's been outstanding

829
00:47:43,547 --> 00:47:46,427
Speaker 12: to watch and it's lifted the game of guys like

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Speaker 12: Jesse Randall, who's had the most shots on target as

831
00:47:49,547 --> 00:47:52,347
Speaker 12: well in the competition. I really like what I see

832
00:47:52,427 --> 00:47:55,827
Speaker 12: Verastrada still playing well. The core group is there and

833
00:47:55,947 --> 00:47:58,427
Speaker 12: Conicle will know that once he turns his corner and

834
00:47:58,467 --> 00:48:02,107
Speaker 12: gets a few more results than anything's possible.

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Speaker 3: I actually tip them for the championship this year.

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Speaker 12: I don't know if they'll be first part the posts,

837
00:48:07,307 --> 00:48:09,707
Speaker 12: but you can be sure that they'll be up there

838
00:48:09,787 --> 00:48:10,547
Speaker 12: or thereabouts.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the best is yet to come.

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00:48:12,027 --> 00:48:14,987
Speaker 2: I feel for Auckland, your former side or one of them.

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00:48:15,027 --> 00:48:17,827
Speaker 2: Brisbane Raw Drifting for a few seasons. Haven't made the

842
00:48:17,867 --> 00:48:20,867
Speaker 2: finals for the last four campaigns, but if they wouldn't

843
00:48:20,867 --> 00:48:23,387
Speaker 2: to night against Wellington, which they should, they'd go top

844
00:48:23,427 --> 00:48:25,667
Speaker 2: for a few hours. Anyway, what have you made of

845
00:48:25,707 --> 00:48:28,507
Speaker 2: the change that new coach Michael Valcanus has brought to

846
00:48:28,547 --> 00:48:29,227
Speaker 2: Brisbane Raw?

847
00:48:30,387 --> 00:48:32,027
Speaker 12: And I'd love to know that stat party. I'm going

848
00:48:32,067 --> 00:48:33,507
Speaker 12: to go and look for it now. When was the

849
00:48:33,587 --> 00:48:36,507
Speaker 12: last time Brisbane Raw we're top of an A League table?

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00:48:36,547 --> 00:48:38,987
Speaker 12: It might have been, you know, a couple of seasons

851
00:48:38,987 --> 00:48:43,427
Speaker 12: ago and beyond, but yeah, I think, look, you either

852
00:48:43,467 --> 00:48:45,387
Speaker 12: love them or you hate them, and I think that

853
00:48:45,427 --> 00:48:47,907
Speaker 12: for a lot of the competition that it's the latter.

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00:48:48,187 --> 00:48:51,027
Speaker 12: And you know, would we have preferred to see a

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00:48:51,067 --> 00:48:54,787
Speaker 12: Brisbane Raw like last year that was just difficult to

856
00:48:54,867 --> 00:48:58,987
Speaker 12: watch at times and laying down and not having the quality?

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00:48:59,027 --> 00:49:00,787
Speaker 12: I think the recruit when you've got to give a

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00:49:00,787 --> 00:49:02,747
Speaker 12: lot of credit to the recruitment, that comes down to

859
00:49:02,827 --> 00:49:05,787
Speaker 12: Volcanos and the guys behind the scenes getting in the

860
00:49:05,867 --> 00:49:09,387
Speaker 12: certain time type of players that he wants to play

861
00:49:09,427 --> 00:49:11,027
Speaker 12: the way that he wants to play. Now, I don't

862
00:49:11,067 --> 00:49:15,627
Speaker 12: remember a team playing with this sort of style in many,

863
00:49:15,667 --> 00:49:18,027
Speaker 12: many years. I'm trying to think of teams like Melbourne

864
00:49:18,107 --> 00:49:22,667
Speaker 12: Victory in the past with Kevin Musket, aggressive type teams

865
00:49:22,667 --> 00:49:24,827
Speaker 12: that went out there and just did the business. But

866
00:49:25,267 --> 00:49:27,627
Speaker 12: if you look at some of their statistics last week

867
00:49:27,667 --> 00:49:31,667
Speaker 12: against the Mariners, they were outscoring the Central Coast Mariners

868
00:49:31,787 --> 00:49:34,787
Speaker 12: all the big metrics in terms of chances created, shots

869
00:49:34,827 --> 00:49:39,107
Speaker 12: on target, you know, final third entry. So they're not

870
00:49:39,227 --> 00:49:42,027
Speaker 12: just a one trick pony. And I think they have

871
00:49:42,667 --> 00:49:45,427
Speaker 12: a way of playing right now that I don't think

872
00:49:45,467 --> 00:49:47,987
Speaker 12: anybody's going to be able to match. Because it started

873
00:49:48,027 --> 00:49:50,707
Speaker 12: off in pre season. They put the microchip in there

874
00:49:51,227 --> 00:49:53,507
Speaker 12: and you know, decided that they're going to be physical,

875
00:49:53,507 --> 00:49:55,467
Speaker 12: they're going to outwork people and they're going to play

876
00:49:55,627 --> 00:49:58,427
Speaker 12: forward quickly. And when you start doing that and you

877
00:49:58,507 --> 00:50:00,667
Speaker 12: go out into a football pitch and try and compete,

878
00:50:00,667 --> 00:50:03,147
Speaker 12: and we saw it against Auckland FC, even when they

879
00:50:03,187 --> 00:50:05,147
Speaker 12: played across there. It was a really close game. They

880
00:50:05,147 --> 00:50:08,027
Speaker 12: gave him such a big fright as well. That gives

881
00:50:08,027 --> 00:50:09,987
Speaker 12: you a lot of confidence. And now you can say

882
00:50:09,987 --> 00:50:12,427
Speaker 12: it's the Mariners one week, and now at the bottom

883
00:50:12,427 --> 00:50:14,907
Speaker 12: you can say it's Wellington this week, that maybe they're

884
00:50:15,067 --> 00:50:17,907
Speaker 12: you know, struggling a little bit, but if they go

885
00:50:18,067 --> 00:50:20,627
Speaker 12: top of the table, I expect them to carry on

886
00:50:20,867 --> 00:50:23,587
Speaker 12: and continue in that top sort of two or three

887
00:50:23,707 --> 00:50:24,347
Speaker 12: zone for sure.

888
00:50:24,747 --> 00:50:26,707
Speaker 2: We talked about the chaos of this league and the

889
00:50:26,787 --> 00:50:28,787
Speaker 2: up and down nature of it. Melbourne Victory had a

890
00:50:28,907 --> 00:50:31,747
Speaker 2: very challenging start to the season, just one win in

891
00:50:31,787 --> 00:50:34,427
Speaker 2: their first seven, a run of four games without even

892
00:50:34,467 --> 00:50:36,387
Speaker 2: scoring your goal, and now they're on a four game

893
00:50:36,747 --> 00:50:40,667
Speaker 2: winning streak. What has been behind the turnaround at Melbourne Victory.

894
00:50:42,067 --> 00:50:45,307
Speaker 12: You can't just say it's been for Loupala and one

895
00:50:45,387 --> 00:50:47,707
Speaker 12: much of getting to full fitness, although it looks like

896
00:50:47,747 --> 00:50:51,507
Speaker 12: that when you watch it on Telly. But I think

897
00:50:51,547 --> 00:50:54,147
Speaker 12: for Arthur Dillars, who spoke to him last night, he

898
00:50:54,227 --> 00:50:56,467
Speaker 12: was just saying that it just comes down to hard

899
00:50:56,507 --> 00:50:59,387
Speaker 12: work and belief. And that's the thing about being in

900
00:50:59,387 --> 00:51:01,747
Speaker 12: a football club is that you know you've got to

901
00:51:01,947 --> 00:51:05,107
Speaker 12: sort of push your way through those tough moments. And

902
00:51:05,147 --> 00:51:07,267
Speaker 12: we've seen it time and time again in football. You've

903
00:51:07,307 --> 00:51:09,867
Speaker 12: got to keep your head down, working hard. The fixture

904
00:51:09,907 --> 00:51:11,467
Speaker 12: this didn't help them as well.

905
00:51:11,547 --> 00:51:11,947
Speaker 3: Piney.

906
00:51:11,947 --> 00:51:14,627
Speaker 12: I think you know now they're playing I think was

907
00:51:14,627 --> 00:51:17,427
Speaker 12: it seven or eight games in the next ten at

908
00:51:17,467 --> 00:51:20,387
Speaker 12: home that certainly helps you to be a bit more

909
00:51:20,387 --> 00:51:23,027
Speaker 12: grounded and for players light Mutter, they don't got to

910
00:51:23,027 --> 00:51:24,827
Speaker 12: travel away and maybe.

911
00:51:24,667 --> 00:51:26,667
Speaker 3: Dilas have to protect him a little bit more.

912
00:51:26,707 --> 00:51:30,067
Speaker 12: But yeah, you can say it's been Mutter the loople

913
00:51:30,307 --> 00:51:33,107
Speaker 12: coming into the side, which is len lifted players and

914
00:51:33,147 --> 00:51:35,667
Speaker 12: given them better chance creation for guys like.

915
00:51:35,707 --> 00:51:37,187
Speaker 3: Santos for Vergos.

916
00:51:37,667 --> 00:51:41,067
Speaker 12: Absolutely, but you have to remember now they look really

917
00:51:41,147 --> 00:51:43,427
Speaker 12: lightweight in their back line, so this is going to

918
00:51:43,427 --> 00:51:47,707
Speaker 12: be the challenge for them moving forward. They've lost Roderick Miranda,

919
00:51:47,827 --> 00:51:51,507
Speaker 12: Lachlan Jackson's not playing that to play with Jason Davidson

920
00:51:51,507 --> 00:51:54,027
Speaker 12: as a cent and a half last night, so maybe

921
00:51:54,067 --> 00:51:56,227
Speaker 12: they have to dip into the transfer market as well.

922
00:51:56,667 --> 00:51:59,627
Speaker 2: So THEFC seems like ages since they last play the

923
00:51:59,667 --> 00:52:03,507
Speaker 2: top of the table players against Auckland postponed unfortunately. Are

924
00:52:03,547 --> 00:52:06,307
Speaker 2: they seeking but they did lose their last game to Newcastle.

925
00:52:06,787 --> 00:52:09,187
Speaker 2: How do you assist how Sydney f you're traveling?

926
00:52:11,147 --> 00:52:13,747
Speaker 12: Yeah, very difficult because they, like you said, they haven't

927
00:52:13,747 --> 00:52:16,347
Speaker 12: played for a while and you just hope for their

928
00:52:16,427 --> 00:52:19,627
Speaker 12: sake that Joe Lolly's hamstring has recovered in that time.

929
00:52:19,627 --> 00:52:21,227
Speaker 12: I don't think it will have it looked as though

930
00:52:21,227 --> 00:52:24,867
Speaker 12: you retweaked it against the Jets. But yeah, the loss

931
00:52:24,867 --> 00:52:27,227
Speaker 12: of John Massana, the assistant coach, I think will be

932
00:52:27,307 --> 00:52:30,867
Speaker 12: felt and that space there for any coach will tell

933
00:52:30,907 --> 00:52:33,387
Speaker 12: you that if they lose their assistant coach to somewhere,

934
00:52:33,587 --> 00:52:35,267
Speaker 12: that's your day to day guy, that's your guy on

935
00:52:35,307 --> 00:52:38,387
Speaker 12: the training pitch, that's just you know, conveying your sort

936
00:52:38,387 --> 00:52:41,667
Speaker 12: of message. And I just felt at this at the

937
00:52:41,787 --> 00:52:44,547
Speaker 12: end there before the break for Sydney, they were starting

938
00:52:44,587 --> 00:52:47,547
Speaker 12: to fall off the pace and having a little dip

939
00:52:47,587 --> 00:52:49,547
Speaker 12: now and everyone will tell you when you come back

940
00:52:49,547 --> 00:52:52,667
Speaker 12: from a long break, you don't generally get off to

941
00:52:52,707 --> 00:52:55,027
Speaker 12: a good start, and you say, wow, these guys look

942
00:52:55,107 --> 00:52:57,707
Speaker 12: like they've never missed a trick and they're coming It's

943
00:52:57,827 --> 00:53:00,987
Speaker 12: usually at quite a slow start. So I'm expecting Sydney

944
00:53:01,627 --> 00:53:05,147
Speaker 12: maybe just to teeter and you know, struggle through a

945
00:53:05,147 --> 00:53:07,427
Speaker 12: couple of games, maybe a few drawers or are loss

946
00:53:07,467 --> 00:53:10,347
Speaker 12: here or there, and then I think the big key

947
00:53:10,427 --> 00:53:12,907
Speaker 12: for them is having that outlet. You've got two rays

948
00:53:12,947 --> 00:53:16,067
Speaker 12: on one side. We need to see more from Campethano

949
00:53:16,507 --> 00:53:17,227
Speaker 12: and kiss Pay.

950
00:53:17,267 --> 00:53:19,427
Speaker 3: I think that's probably evident in.

951
00:53:19,427 --> 00:53:21,667
Speaker 12: The way they've played the last couple of games they've

952
00:53:21,667 --> 00:53:25,347
Speaker 12: done a little bit better. But oakonn returning hopefully that

953
00:53:25,387 --> 00:53:26,947
Speaker 12: makes a big difference for them as well.

954
00:53:27,387 --> 00:53:30,467
Speaker 2: Out West though Western Sydney Wanderers, who I actually had

955
00:53:31,027 --> 00:53:33,347
Speaker 2: preseason anyway, you know, up at the other end of

956
00:53:33,387 --> 00:53:36,347
Speaker 2: the table, sick and bottom despite a really good squad.

957
00:53:36,627 --> 00:53:38,427
Speaker 2: What's Hapniget Paramta.

958
00:53:39,747 --> 00:53:39,907
Speaker 3: Well.

959
00:53:39,907 --> 00:53:41,667
Speaker 12: I was at the game the other night covering it

960
00:53:41,707 --> 00:53:43,347
Speaker 12: as in a piney and it was it was a

961
00:53:43,387 --> 00:53:47,267
Speaker 12: strange feeling because you've got Alan s dadgits that's basically

962
00:53:48,187 --> 00:53:51,107
Speaker 12: he's just you know, he's trying to keep his job

963
00:53:51,147 --> 00:53:55,227
Speaker 12: as long as possible, like every manager. But I don't

964
00:53:55,267 --> 00:53:59,387
Speaker 12: buy into the statistics that are trying to keep him

965
00:53:59,387 --> 00:54:01,547
Speaker 12: in the job at saying that if it was an

966
00:54:01,587 --> 00:54:04,387
Speaker 12: expected goals table then that they'd be right at the

967
00:54:04,387 --> 00:54:06,067
Speaker 12: top because they've created a lot of chances.

968
00:54:06,107 --> 00:54:07,667
Speaker 3: Yes, that's great, but.

969
00:54:07,587 --> 00:54:09,827
Speaker 12: They haven't been putting the ball in the back of

970
00:54:09,867 --> 00:54:11,987
Speaker 12: the d I saw a definite shift when they played

971
00:54:12,027 --> 00:54:14,787
Speaker 12: the Mariners at home and then in the Sydney Darby.

972
00:54:14,907 --> 00:54:17,027
Speaker 12: I thought, here we go. They've turned the corner. They're

973
00:54:17,027 --> 00:54:20,707
Speaker 12: getting four, they're scoring goals. By all reports, they're going

974
00:54:20,747 --> 00:54:25,627
Speaker 12: to lose Alex Bonatti to the MLS, so again another

975
00:54:25,907 --> 00:54:27,907
Speaker 12: position on the pitch they'll be, there'll be a little

976
00:54:27,907 --> 00:54:31,547
Speaker 12: bit weakerings. He played every minute for them Panazopolis. You

977
00:54:31,587 --> 00:54:34,787
Speaker 12: know that he's great going forward and gives you that energy.

978
00:54:35,307 --> 00:54:37,867
Speaker 12: I just feel that, you know, putting Jy Rose in

979
00:54:37,907 --> 00:54:40,547
Speaker 12: there was fantastic and we loved that. You've got a

980
00:54:40,547 --> 00:54:45,027
Speaker 12: guy like Steven Ugarkovich who's been a winner in this competition.

981
00:54:45,067 --> 00:54:47,987
Speaker 12: He hasn't started the last four games, and I worry that,

982
00:54:48,507 --> 00:54:50,867
Speaker 12: you know, some players might be just starting to fall

983
00:54:50,907 --> 00:54:53,587
Speaker 12: off the wayside or falling out with the coach and

984
00:54:53,707 --> 00:54:56,667
Speaker 12: not getting maybe the opportunities.

985
00:54:55,987 --> 00:54:56,707
Speaker 3: That they deserve.

986
00:54:56,747 --> 00:54:59,587
Speaker 12: But if you look at the games you go, they're

987
00:54:59,587 --> 00:55:01,587
Speaker 12: doing enough to get to that final zone.

988
00:55:01,587 --> 00:55:02,867
Speaker 3: They're just not scoring.

989
00:55:03,467 --> 00:55:06,547
Speaker 12: And you know, how long can that continue before or

990
00:55:06,587 --> 00:55:08,387
Speaker 12: you make a really, really big change.

991
00:55:08,427 --> 00:55:10,547
Speaker 3: And I did ask him Piney. I said to him

992
00:55:10,587 --> 00:55:12,067
Speaker 3: that you know.

993
00:55:12,427 --> 00:55:14,427
Speaker 12: The pressure's on you, but how about you put more

994
00:55:14,467 --> 00:55:17,667
Speaker 12: pressure on your players, because that's that's the last point

995
00:55:17,667 --> 00:55:20,387
Speaker 12: of return. You have to now put more pressure on

996
00:55:20,427 --> 00:55:22,307
Speaker 12: the players to go and score. And he said, oh,

997
00:55:22,347 --> 00:55:25,067
Speaker 12: what's pressure? And you know we're under pressure every single

998
00:55:25,147 --> 00:55:26,987
Speaker 12: day but let me tell you, they'll be feeling it

999
00:55:27,347 --> 00:55:28,867
Speaker 12: across the Western Sydney.

1000
00:55:28,587 --> 00:55:33,267
Speaker 2: Indeed and Wellington Phoenix and during a challenging campaign, most

1001
00:55:33,267 --> 00:55:35,587
Speaker 2: recently that five to one loss at Amy Park to

1002
00:55:35,667 --> 00:55:38,587
Speaker 2: Melbourne victory Brisbane Raw tonight at what is likely to

1003
00:55:38,587 --> 00:55:42,987
Speaker 2: be a hotbed at Cayo Stadium, Reid Cliff, What do

1004
00:55:43,027 --> 00:55:45,507
Speaker 2: you predict for Wellington Phoenix for the second half of

1005
00:55:45,507 --> 00:55:46,027
Speaker 2: the season.

1006
00:55:47,547 --> 00:55:50,187
Speaker 12: Yeah, looks It's funny, isn't it, Because last year we

1007
00:55:50,307 --> 00:55:53,707
Speaker 12: were we were sort of blaming or you know, looking

1008
00:55:53,747 --> 00:55:56,707
Speaker 12: at Wellington saying they were too boring last year playing

1009
00:55:56,747 --> 00:55:59,027
Speaker 12: inside their own half and playing over the top for

1010
00:55:59,067 --> 00:56:02,667
Speaker 12: barbarusis and it was very you know, score one and

1011
00:56:02,747 --> 00:56:05,587
Speaker 12: try and keep the lead and it didn't work for them.

1012
00:56:05,587 --> 00:56:09,427
Speaker 12: And then this year it's almost like he's going forward

1013
00:56:09,507 --> 00:56:12,387
Speaker 12: too much and we're blaming him for squeezing the team

1014
00:56:12,467 --> 00:56:16,467
Speaker 12: high and having more goal scoring chances. But the bottom

1015
00:56:16,467 --> 00:56:20,427
Speaker 12: line is zero clean sheets versus Brisbane Raw's six.

1016
00:56:21,227 --> 00:56:23,187
Speaker 3: So you know, if you want to be at the

1017
00:56:23,187 --> 00:56:23,907
Speaker 3: top end of the.

1018
00:56:23,867 --> 00:56:26,867
Speaker 12: Table, yes, it's great scoring goals, you've got to be

1019
00:56:27,467 --> 00:56:28,427
Speaker 12: keeping clean sheets.

1020
00:56:28,427 --> 00:56:30,747
Speaker 3: And now we talked about this with Josh Olawayomi.

1021
00:56:30,827 --> 00:56:34,067
Speaker 12: He has saved them both the most big chances that

1022
00:56:34,107 --> 00:56:37,627
Speaker 12: have been created for the competition. So he's saved eleven

1023
00:56:37,707 --> 00:56:40,907
Speaker 12: big opportunities and two penalties as we know in that

1024
00:56:41,027 --> 00:56:44,467
Speaker 12: derby game as well. But now with McLaren and in

1025
00:56:44,627 --> 00:56:46,747
Speaker 12: goal the other night, I felt as though they should

1026
00:56:46,747 --> 00:56:49,827
Speaker 12: have protected him a little bit more. Where does that

1027
00:56:50,627 --> 00:56:53,267
Speaker 12: sit with that situation with the goalkeeper. But I think

1028
00:56:53,307 --> 00:56:55,787
Speaker 12: the second half of the season, he's got to go

1029
00:56:55,827 --> 00:56:57,987
Speaker 12: on a happy medium, hasn't he. He can't be just

1030
00:56:58,107 --> 00:57:02,067
Speaker 12: going hell for leather high line squeezing. But the only

1031
00:57:02,107 --> 00:57:03,947
Speaker 12: positive I'll give you at the end of this pine

1032
00:57:04,067 --> 00:57:06,267
Speaker 12: is that they have scored in every game bar one

1033
00:57:06,547 --> 00:57:08,867
Speaker 12: this year and that's a positive sign Army and so

1034
00:57:09,227 --> 00:57:12,547
Speaker 12: as a piper, they've looked really, really strong in that

1035
00:57:12,627 --> 00:57:15,347
Speaker 12: front line, so I think that was score goals.

1036
00:57:15,347 --> 00:57:16,627
Speaker 3: But they've got to tighten up at the.

1037
00:57:16,547 --> 00:57:19,587
Speaker 2: Back absolutely just to finish a big year for football,

1038
00:57:19,947 --> 00:57:22,147
Speaker 2: both New Zealand and Australia off to the World Cup.

1039
00:57:22,387 --> 00:57:24,707
Speaker 2: How optimistic Eric do you feel about the Sokkaroos and

1040
00:57:24,747 --> 00:57:25,427
Speaker 2: World Cup year?

1041
00:57:27,147 --> 00:57:30,947
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great question. Depending on who.

1042
00:57:30,187 --> 00:57:34,387
Speaker 12: We get for the UEFA playoff is a big one.

1043
00:57:34,787 --> 00:57:39,547
Speaker 12: I feel what we saw from Tony Popovich's squad getting

1044
00:57:39,827 --> 00:57:42,667
Speaker 12: to the World Cup was superb and he played exactly

1045
00:57:42,707 --> 00:57:44,907
Speaker 12: the right way that I think we need to play

1046
00:57:45,507 --> 00:57:45,867
Speaker 12: as a.

1047
00:57:45,867 --> 00:57:48,747
Speaker 3: Nation and to our abilities and our skill sets. There's

1048
00:57:48,987 --> 00:57:50,427
Speaker 3: no harm in playing that way.

1049
00:57:50,907 --> 00:57:53,507
Speaker 12: It just got to the stage we started playing friendlies

1050
00:57:54,067 --> 00:57:57,427
Speaker 12: that people thought there's no risk in these games. Yet

1051
00:57:57,507 --> 00:58:00,347
Speaker 12: we're still playing the same way and maybe being a

1052
00:58:00,427 --> 00:58:05,747
Speaker 12: little bit too defensive. I worry for our chance creation

1053
00:58:06,027 --> 00:58:08,667
Speaker 12: and boring goals. I think when you go to a

1054
00:58:08,707 --> 00:58:11,107
Speaker 12: World Cup, yeah, you want to get through, and it's

1055
00:58:11,147 --> 00:58:13,387
Speaker 12: a little bit it's a lot easier to get through.

1056
00:58:13,547 --> 00:58:16,547
Speaker 12: I think it's that eight out of the twelve groups,

1057
00:58:16,627 --> 00:58:17,987
Speaker 12: third place we'll get through.

1058
00:58:18,507 --> 00:58:19,467
Speaker 3: So you're really.

1059
00:58:19,387 --> 00:58:22,827
Speaker 12: Talking about getting getting three points. Three points should get

1060
00:58:22,867 --> 00:58:27,067
Speaker 12: you through. So you're looking at those games and look,

1061
00:58:27,107 --> 00:58:29,467
Speaker 12: the USA one stands out for me, it'd be great

1062
00:58:29,507 --> 00:58:32,227
Speaker 12: to get that win against them. We lost to them,

1063
00:58:32,587 --> 00:58:35,587
Speaker 12: of course in the friendly in November and October. It

1064
00:58:35,667 --> 00:58:38,467
Speaker 12: was Yeah, I'm really looking forward to seeing who we

1065
00:58:38,507 --> 00:58:42,107
Speaker 12: get for that. The third team, So the fourth team, sorry,

1066
00:58:42,107 --> 00:58:44,467
Speaker 12: but I don't know. I think with Australia we're always

1067
00:58:44,587 --> 00:58:48,227
Speaker 12: excited We're always optimistic and I don't think we could

1068
00:58:48,267 --> 00:58:51,907
Speaker 12: have asked for a better group if I'm being honest.

1069
00:58:51,947 --> 00:58:53,747
Speaker 3: No World Cup winners as well.

1070
00:58:54,827 --> 00:58:57,027
Speaker 12: That's the first time that's happened for us as well,

1071
00:58:57,107 --> 00:58:59,547
Speaker 12: and you know in New Zealander there as well, which

1072
00:58:59,587 --> 00:59:00,347
Speaker 12: is fantastic.

1073
00:59:00,427 --> 00:59:03,547
Speaker 3: So it's going to be early morning starts in June

1074
00:59:03,547 --> 00:59:03,907
Speaker 3: and July.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely well. We love your work, Eric, Thanks whats for

1076
00:59:06,667 --> 00:59:09,987
Speaker 2: joining us, mate, really appreciate your analysis across news yelling today.

1077
00:59:10,347 --> 00:59:12,107
Speaker 3: Yeah, pleasure party, Thank you mate, No.

1078
00:59:12,147 --> 00:59:15,307
Speaker 2: Thank you Eric. Eric Partalu their former double A league

1079
00:59:15,547 --> 00:59:20,227
Speaker 2: champion with Brisbane Raw and a vary astute analyst of

1080
00:59:20,267 --> 00:59:23,467
Speaker 2: the game. Love is his input on the television coverage

1081
00:59:23,507 --> 00:59:26,267
Speaker 2: of a league matches. So your double header for the

1082
00:59:26,307 --> 00:59:31,987
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix today at Redcliffe Kyo Stadium in Redcliffe. So

1083
00:59:32,187 --> 00:59:35,107
Speaker 2: normally Brisbane play their home games at sun Corp Stadium,

1084
00:59:35,107 --> 00:59:37,667
Speaker 2: but they've taken this one to Redcliffe and have sold

1085
00:59:37,707 --> 00:59:41,947
Speaker 2: it out, so due to be just a pressure cooker

1086
00:59:41,987 --> 00:59:44,147
Speaker 2: for both the men and the women. The men's games

1087
00:59:44,147 --> 00:59:48,587
Speaker 2: at seven, the women at nine forty five. The women

1088
00:59:49,587 --> 00:59:53,267
Speaker 2: playing brilliantly. They've scored ten unanswered goals in the last

1089
00:59:53,267 --> 00:59:56,147
Speaker 2: two matches seven nil and three nils, so they'll go

1090
00:59:56,187 --> 00:59:59,227
Speaker 2: in full of confidence tonight. Emma Main incidentally is on

1091
00:59:59,267 --> 01:00:01,307
Speaker 2: the show in the next hour. She's going to play

1092
01:00:01,307 --> 01:00:03,827
Speaker 2: her fiftieth match for the women's team tonight. Got a

1093
01:00:03,827 --> 01:00:05,627
Speaker 2: couple of goals in the last game, so she'll join

1094
01:00:05,707 --> 01:00:06,187
Speaker 2: us for the men.

1095
01:00:07,107 --> 01:00:07,387
Speaker 5: Gee.

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Speaker 2: It's been pretty hard YAKA for Wellington Phoenix fans in

1097
01:00:11,107 --> 01:00:13,827
Speaker 2: recent times. Most recently as I mentioned to Eric, there

1098
01:00:13,987 --> 01:00:16,947
Speaker 2: the five to one loss on Monday at Amy Park.

1099
01:00:17,387 --> 01:00:20,227
Speaker 2: They'll have to pick themselves up, dust themselves off and

1100
01:00:20,267 --> 01:00:22,427
Speaker 2: face a Brisbane side who know that if they win

1101
01:00:22,827 --> 01:00:24,987
Speaker 2: they'll go at least for a couple of hours to

1102
01:00:25,067 --> 01:00:27,187
Speaker 2: the top of the A League ladder. So that game

1103
01:00:27,187 --> 01:00:30,667
Speaker 2: at seven o'clock tonight at Redcliffe. Auckland f C next

1104
01:00:30,707 --> 01:00:35,587
Speaker 2: play on Monday evening at Campbelltown, up against MacArthur who

1105
01:00:35,667 --> 01:00:39,347
Speaker 2: are very efficiently putting together a pretty decent season themselves.

1106
01:00:39,387 --> 01:00:42,547
Speaker 2: So Auckland f C also looking to bounce back from

1107
01:00:42,587 --> 01:00:44,947
Speaker 2: their loss on New Year's Day with a game against

1108
01:00:44,987 --> 01:00:49,987
Speaker 2: MacArthur on Monday. To Nelson quickly coming towards the end

1109
01:00:50,027 --> 01:00:52,267
Speaker 2: of the twelfth over the Central Hines one hundred and

1110
01:00:52,267 --> 01:00:55,347
Speaker 2: five for one batting first against Canterbury in their Super

1111
01:00:55,347 --> 01:00:58,507
Speaker 2: Smash match. You can add another boundary to that, No,

1112
01:00:58,667 --> 01:01:00,187
Speaker 2: you can't. You can add another wicket to that. I

1113
01:01:00,227 --> 01:01:03,347
Speaker 2: thought she got more of that, but it's actually turned

1114
01:01:03,347 --> 01:01:06,347
Speaker 2: out to be a wicket. It's the danger of watch

1115
01:01:06,547 --> 01:01:09,027
Speaker 2: on television the Hins one hundred and five for two

1116
01:01:09,307 --> 01:01:11,587
Speaker 2: at the end of the twelfth over, still going along

1117
01:01:11,627 --> 01:01:14,027
Speaker 2: at close to nine and over against Canterbury in the

1118
01:01:14,027 --> 01:01:17,667
Speaker 2: Super Smash game in Nelson, which looks very pleasant to

1119
01:01:17,707 --> 01:01:20,827
Speaker 2: weather wise today. When is it ever not in Nelson though,

1120
01:01:21,227 --> 01:01:23,427
Speaker 2: one twenty nine, when we come back to the darts

1121
01:01:23,467 --> 01:01:26,627
Speaker 2: we go. We've got our finalists of the World Darts Championship,

1122
01:01:26,667 --> 01:01:29,907
Speaker 2: two of the young guns of World Darts going to

1123
01:01:29,987 --> 01:01:32,867
Speaker 2: go head to head. Ben Francis, our darts expert, going

1124
01:01:32,907 --> 01:01:34,307
Speaker 2: to break it down for us when we come back.

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Speaker 3: Don't get caught off side.

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01:01:36,907 --> 01:01:41,667
Speaker 1: Eighty weekends for us with Jason Paine and GJ. Gunnhopes,

1127
01:01:41,827 --> 01:01:45,147
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder News TALKSB.

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Speaker 2: News Talks will be one thirty two. The World Dance

1129
01:01:48,627 --> 01:01:53,427
Speaker 2: Championship final is locked in. Something he'd have been dreaming out.

1130
01:01:55,147 --> 01:02:01,387
Speaker 4: Since he was a Gandanvain's in the Wood Championship final.

1131
01:02:01,987 --> 01:02:05,547
Speaker 2: Dutch thrower Gwan van Vane through to the final, knocking

1132
01:02:05,547 --> 01:02:09,627
Speaker 2: off former two champion Gary Anderson six to three in

1133
01:02:09,667 --> 01:02:14,387
Speaker 2: their semi final. Fun Faye will play reigning champion Luke Littler.

1134
01:02:14,747 --> 01:02:19,507
Speaker 12: He's not prolific off doubles in the match, Lucas in

1135
01:02:19,667 --> 01:02:24,307
Speaker 12: yet another World Championship final with the demolisson jobah Racer.

1136
01:02:24,627 --> 01:02:27,187
Speaker 2: Here was a demolition job Luke Littler storming to a

1137
01:02:27,347 --> 01:02:29,987
Speaker 2: six to one victory in his semi against Ryan Searle.

1138
01:02:30,307 --> 01:02:34,107
Speaker 2: Despite dropping the opening set, he reeled off six consecutive

1139
01:02:34,147 --> 01:02:38,827
Speaker 2: sets to reach his third straight final. Our darts analysts

1140
01:02:38,947 --> 01:02:40,987
Speaker 2: been Francis who joins us now, have we got the

1141
01:02:41,027 --> 01:02:42,987
Speaker 2: best two players in the final?

1142
01:02:44,307 --> 01:02:44,507
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1143
01:02:44,867 --> 01:02:47,547
Speaker 13: Pay, I think based on the tournament and kind of

1144
01:02:47,547 --> 01:02:49,467
Speaker 13: what we've seen in the world of darts in the

1145
01:02:49,507 --> 01:02:51,947
Speaker 13: last few months, you'd definitely say yes. These have been

1146
01:02:51,987 --> 01:02:55,147
Speaker 13: the two players that have been most than form. Luke

1147
01:02:55,227 --> 01:02:57,907
Speaker 13: Letter of course, the reigning world CHAMPI won most tournaments

1148
01:02:57,907 --> 01:03:01,467
Speaker 13: this year. Van Veen the reigning World Youth champion, and

1149
01:03:01,627 --> 01:03:04,347
Speaker 13: he won the European Championship, which is considered like his

1150
01:03:04,427 --> 01:03:06,627
Speaker 13: first big TV title this month ago.

1151
01:03:07,507 --> 01:03:11,507
Speaker 2: Is his rise, which I guess we can call meteoric.

1152
01:03:11,987 --> 01:03:15,267
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it uncommon for a player of his

1153
01:03:15,387 --> 01:03:17,467
Speaker 2: age too? I mean, I guess we've got Luke Littler

1154
01:03:17,547 --> 01:03:19,987
Speaker 2: as our example. I mean, he's still a teenager, isn't he?

1155
01:03:19,987 --> 01:03:22,987
Speaker 2: But is it? Where's fun thing come from? Has he

1156
01:03:23,027 --> 01:03:25,907
Speaker 2: been promising to be this way for a while?

1157
01:03:27,227 --> 01:03:29,787
Speaker 13: Yeah, he's got a bit of an interesting story. For

1158
01:03:29,867 --> 01:03:33,187
Speaker 13: the last few years. He's been someone that has, you know,

1159
01:03:33,387 --> 01:03:35,387
Speaker 13: the saying, as it goes, is kind of knocking on

1160
01:03:35,427 --> 01:03:38,707
Speaker 13: the door, just waiting for that real opportunity to really

1161
01:03:38,747 --> 01:03:41,627
Speaker 13: break through. And he's been knocking, knocking, knocking for a

1162
01:03:41,627 --> 01:03:45,147
Speaker 13: long time. Didn't break through just probably up until this

1163
01:03:45,267 --> 01:03:48,387
Speaker 13: year where he's really showed his potential and he's really

1164
01:03:48,427 --> 01:03:52,307
Speaker 13: taken every opportunity that has come his way. As I said,

1165
01:03:52,307 --> 01:03:55,627
Speaker 13: he is the reigning World Youth champion, two time World

1166
01:03:55,707 --> 01:03:58,707
Speaker 13: Youth champion, that is. And I think that what this

1167
01:03:58,827 --> 01:04:02,107
Speaker 13: kind of says to me Piney is that I don't

1168
01:04:02,107 --> 01:04:03,907
Speaker 13: want to say it's a changing into the garden Way

1169
01:04:03,947 --> 01:04:06,867
Speaker 13: because it's probably not that extent, but this is going

1170
01:04:06,907 --> 01:04:09,787
Speaker 13: to be the youngest ever final we've had for a

1171
01:04:09,827 --> 01:04:12,267
Speaker 13: PDC World Darts champ. We've got someone who's a teenager

1172
01:04:12,387 --> 01:04:14,387
Speaker 13: only eighteen years old. We've got someone who's twenty three,

1173
01:04:14,467 --> 01:04:16,987
Speaker 13: twenty four years old. And it kind of shows now

1174
01:04:17,027 --> 01:04:19,427
Speaker 13: that dart isn't just a sport for the fifty year

1175
01:04:19,427 --> 01:04:21,667
Speaker 13: old man. Now it's a sport for the young guys,

1176
01:04:21,667 --> 01:04:23,467
Speaker 13: because these are the young guys that are going to

1177
01:04:23,467 --> 01:04:24,747
Speaker 13: be the future of the sport, and they're going to

1178
01:04:24,747 --> 01:04:26,627
Speaker 13: be the ones that are can be dominating the years

1179
01:04:26,707 --> 01:04:28,747
Speaker 13: to come. Even a guy like Luke Humphrey's of course

1180
01:04:28,747 --> 01:04:31,387
Speaker 13: got knocked out and the quarters, he's still weal of

1181
01:04:31,427 --> 01:04:33,667
Speaker 13: the young as well, and these are the faces that

1182
01:04:33,667 --> 01:04:35,187
Speaker 13: we're going to be seeing for many years to come.

1183
01:04:35,587 --> 01:04:37,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just the future, is it. It's the present.

1184
01:04:37,827 --> 01:04:40,907
Speaker 2: We are living in this world now where where young

1185
01:04:40,947 --> 01:04:43,107
Speaker 2: players are coming through. Is this the way the sport

1186
01:04:43,187 --> 01:04:45,547
Speaker 2: is hited? Are we less likely now to see the

1187
01:04:45,947 --> 01:04:49,427
Speaker 2: likes of the veterans Gary Anderson and Michael van Gerwin

1188
01:04:49,467 --> 01:04:51,827
Speaker 2: and others. Are we less likely to see them go

1189
01:04:52,027 --> 01:04:53,827
Speaker 2: deep into world championships now?

1190
01:04:54,867 --> 01:04:59,387
Speaker 13: Well, it's quite an interesting question, Poney, because with the

1191
01:05:00,107 --> 01:05:02,027
Speaker 13: Wade Portaman has changed this here in terms of the

1192
01:05:02,027 --> 01:05:04,787
Speaker 13: prize money, and that's same we've spoken about for the rankings,

1193
01:05:05,427 --> 01:05:08,547
Speaker 13: with the prize money based on a two year format.

1194
01:05:08,867 --> 01:05:12,067
Speaker 13: The world champion has actually really thrown up some massive,

1195
01:05:12,467 --> 01:05:15,907
Speaker 13: massive changes to these world rankings. Van Been is now

1196
01:05:16,427 --> 01:05:19,187
Speaker 13: going to be number three at least after the World Champs.

1197
01:05:19,307 --> 01:05:21,507
Speaker 13: He's the throne. Michael van Gouin as the number one

1198
01:05:21,627 --> 01:05:24,307
Speaker 13: Dutch player, who's been there since twenty twelve, so that's

1199
01:05:24,347 --> 01:05:26,867
Speaker 13: fourteen years. He's kind of been holding on to that.

1200
01:05:27,027 --> 01:05:29,907
Speaker 13: But I think you're always going to have these guys

1201
01:05:29,987 --> 01:05:31,787
Speaker 13: like your Gary's, You're going to have your Michaels. As

1202
01:05:31,787 --> 01:05:34,307
Speaker 13: long as they're around, they're going to be competing. But

1203
01:05:34,707 --> 01:05:36,787
Speaker 13: you are going to see more and more young players,

1204
01:05:36,827 --> 01:05:39,187
Speaker 13: especially over the next five to ten years, who are

1205
01:05:39,187 --> 01:05:42,587
Speaker 13: going to really starting to probably take these steps and

1206
01:05:42,627 --> 01:05:45,547
Speaker 13: dominate the top of the sporter. You know, Luke Letler

1207
01:05:45,867 --> 01:05:48,987
Speaker 13: broke numerous records before he really cracked big time, and

1208
01:05:48,987 --> 01:05:51,747
Speaker 13: there's young kids out there now that are obliterating his

1209
01:05:51,867 --> 01:05:54,347
Speaker 13: records that he set. So when you think about that,

1210
01:05:54,387 --> 01:05:56,827
Speaker 13: it's quite scary thinking of some of the young players

1211
01:05:56,827 --> 01:05:59,187
Speaker 13: coming through, even some of the ones who are even

1212
01:05:59,227 --> 01:06:02,227
Speaker 13: in their early twenties, that there's so much promise now

1213
01:06:02,267 --> 01:06:04,587
Speaker 13: in the sport. There's a lot, there's lots of gain

1214
01:06:04,667 --> 01:06:06,987
Speaker 13: from it now as opposed to just how it was

1215
01:06:07,067 --> 01:06:10,787
Speaker 13: even fifteen twenty years ago. So it is definitely changing

1216
01:06:11,147 --> 01:06:13,227
Speaker 13: and we are probably definitely going to start seeing more

1217
01:06:13,267 --> 01:06:16,507
Speaker 13: young players dominating the sport. You know, probably comes down

1218
01:06:16,587 --> 01:06:19,907
Speaker 13: to other things like the less responsibilities taking things like

1219
01:06:20,387 --> 01:06:24,307
Speaker 13: let's say fitness for example, because you know, to play

1220
01:06:24,547 --> 01:06:27,587
Speaker 13: darts competitively at a high level, you can't be a

1221
01:06:27,587 --> 01:06:30,307
Speaker 13: beer drinker, cigarette smoker all the time. Now you need

1222
01:06:30,347 --> 01:06:32,827
Speaker 13: to have your fitness and that's your mental fitness as well.

1223
01:06:32,907 --> 01:06:35,267
Speaker 13: So there's so much more to it now as a sport,

1224
01:06:35,347 --> 01:06:36,747
Speaker 13: and yeah, we're going to see a lot more young

1225
01:06:36,747 --> 01:06:37,467
Speaker 13: guys dominating.

1226
01:06:37,947 --> 01:06:41,307
Speaker 2: The scoreboard says that Fanzine beat Gary Anderson's sixty three,

1227
01:06:41,347 --> 01:06:43,987
Speaker 2: which seems convincing. But this was some match, wasn't it.

1228
01:06:45,027 --> 01:06:47,227
Speaker 13: Well that's the thing, and this is why the set

1229
01:06:47,267 --> 01:06:50,347
Speaker 13: play becomes interesting because in terms of the legs, it

1230
01:06:50,387 --> 01:06:53,187
Speaker 13: was actually only twenty two to Van been twenty to Anderson,

1231
01:06:53,427 --> 01:06:55,627
Speaker 13: So that shows you how close of the game was that.

1232
01:06:56,067 --> 01:06:58,267
Speaker 13: As we've seen with Van Veen in some of his

1233
01:06:58,427 --> 01:07:01,467
Speaker 13: recent games, when the sets are gone to the fifth leg,

1234
01:07:01,587 --> 01:07:04,467
Speaker 13: he has more often than not won them. He's won

1235
01:07:04,507 --> 01:07:09,227
Speaker 13: those key moments, he's taken out those those tricky those

1236
01:07:09,227 --> 01:07:11,667
Speaker 13: finishes that can be quite tricky where you need two

1237
01:07:11,707 --> 01:07:13,787
Speaker 13: to three darts to take them out. So he has

1238
01:07:13,827 --> 01:07:16,307
Speaker 13: really dominated that kind of area of the game. And

1239
01:07:16,347 --> 01:07:17,827
Speaker 13: I think that is going to serve them well in

1240
01:07:17,867 --> 01:07:20,107
Speaker 13: the final because I expect that we're going to see

1241
01:07:20,107 --> 01:07:22,987
Speaker 13: many legs that do go to those fifth leg deciders.

1242
01:07:23,067 --> 01:07:25,787
Speaker 13: And if you're holding throw, if you got throwed, then

1243
01:07:25,867 --> 01:07:28,827
Speaker 13: you do have an advantage as you are producing those

1244
01:07:28,907 --> 01:07:31,067
Speaker 13: kind of legs that he has been doing. We are throwing.

1245
01:07:31,107 --> 01:07:33,707
Speaker 13: You know, you're eleven twelve darters against the throw, more

1246
01:07:33,827 --> 01:07:35,507
Speaker 13: often than not you are going to come out on top.

1247
01:07:36,347 --> 01:07:39,667
Speaker 2: So Luket has been amazing. He's blitzed everybody. He's hardly

1248
01:07:39,707 --> 01:07:42,707
Speaker 2: been tested, has he. He didn't drop a set in

1249
01:07:42,827 --> 01:07:45,867
Speaker 2: rounds one, two and three. Rob Cross got a couple

1250
01:07:45,947 --> 01:07:49,067
Speaker 2: of them. Then he's won five nil and six one

1251
01:07:49,547 --> 01:07:53,147
Speaker 2: in his quarter and semi respectively. Could that have an

1252
01:07:53,267 --> 01:07:56,307
Speaker 2: adverse effect in any way? Ben? He hasn't been put

1253
01:07:56,387 --> 01:07:58,867
Speaker 2: under any pressure at all up till now.

1254
01:08:00,387 --> 01:08:02,547
Speaker 13: I personally think it will. To be honest, and it

1255
01:08:02,587 --> 01:08:04,867
Speaker 13: sounds crazy to say that about the guy who's the

1256
01:08:04,867 --> 01:08:07,307
Speaker 13: world number one, the reigning world champ, who's won pretty

1257
01:08:07,347 --> 01:08:10,947
Speaker 13: much everything in the sport this year, But I personally

1258
01:08:10,987 --> 01:08:14,507
Speaker 13: do believe that not being tested could play against him.

1259
01:08:14,547 --> 01:08:16,867
Speaker 13: If you look at Van Veen, he's come through some

1260
01:08:16,907 --> 01:08:19,347
Speaker 13: really tough games at Anderson one we just touched on

1261
01:08:19,867 --> 01:08:22,507
Speaker 13: beating Luke Humphreys as well with another tricky one. Those

1262
01:08:22,547 --> 01:08:24,387
Speaker 13: are just in the last couple of days, and I

1263
01:08:24,427 --> 01:08:27,467
Speaker 13: feel like that should those moments come along, that he

1264
01:08:27,547 --> 01:08:30,147
Speaker 13: will be ready for them. Against Gary Anderson, there were

1265
01:08:30,187 --> 01:08:32,707
Speaker 13: a couple of wobbly moments, but that was more towards

1266
01:08:32,747 --> 01:08:34,867
Speaker 13: the end when he probably knew that I've got this

1267
01:08:34,947 --> 01:08:38,067
Speaker 13: in the bag. But you kind of get the feeling

1268
01:08:38,107 --> 01:08:40,267
Speaker 13: and it will be interesting to see how Luke Letler

1269
01:08:40,307 --> 01:08:44,147
Speaker 13: will react to being put in those precious situations because

1270
01:08:44,147 --> 01:08:46,547
Speaker 13: he hasn't really been tested at all. As you said,

1271
01:08:47,147 --> 01:08:49,227
Speaker 13: he lost the first set to that against Ryan Sell,

1272
01:08:49,307 --> 01:08:52,307
Speaker 13: but it was on Ryan Sell's throw, so theoretically he

1273
01:08:53,027 --> 01:08:56,347
Speaker 13: should have won the first set. And then whenever Ryan

1274
01:08:56,547 --> 01:08:59,467
Speaker 13: Searle did let those opportunities slop away, where he should

1275
01:08:59,467 --> 01:09:02,027
Speaker 13: have converted Loucal that it did pounce and capitalize, but

1276
01:09:02,307 --> 01:09:05,387
Speaker 13: they were very few and far between, so I think

1277
01:09:05,427 --> 01:09:07,787
Speaker 13: it will to be honest. But you know, it is

1278
01:09:07,907 --> 01:09:10,627
Speaker 13: Luke Letler we're talking about. This guy is just with

1279
01:09:10,787 --> 01:09:12,667
Speaker 13: three tunks scenarows in his hand. He can do some

1280
01:09:12,787 --> 01:09:15,187
Speaker 13: magical things, so it will be it will be interesting

1281
01:09:15,187 --> 01:09:16,987
Speaker 13: to see, but I think that could come back to

1282
01:09:17,027 --> 01:09:20,147
Speaker 13: bite him because if Luke Litler does go on to win,

1283
01:09:20,467 --> 01:09:22,947
Speaker 13: and he's probably had one of the more easier runs

1284
01:09:23,027 --> 01:09:24,627
Speaker 13: to the to the title, I would say.

1285
01:09:25,027 --> 01:09:28,027
Speaker 2: Indeed, always some great storylines come out of World Champs,

1286
01:09:28,027 --> 01:09:29,867
Speaker 2: And I just want to mention Ryan Searle, who was

1287
01:09:29,907 --> 01:09:32,947
Speaker 2: well beaten by Luke Littler in there semi but he

1288
01:09:33,827 --> 01:09:38,147
Speaker 2: battles a rare eye condition which results in blurred vision,

1289
01:09:38,187 --> 01:09:40,667
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure that blurred vision is exactly what

1290
01:09:40,707 --> 01:09:43,107
Speaker 2: you're after when you're trying to hit very small targets

1291
01:09:43,107 --> 01:09:45,627
Speaker 2: on a dart board. But this has been an incredible

1292
01:09:46,027 --> 01:09:48,987
Speaker 2: story and the raising of awareness and even the likes

1293
01:09:48,987 --> 01:09:51,587
Speaker 2: of Paddy Power the betting company, jumping on board to

1294
01:09:51,747 --> 01:09:58,267
Speaker 2: donate money. He's he's become a fairly popular player. Ryan Searle,

1295
01:09:58,307 --> 01:09:58,707
Speaker 2: hasn't he.

1296
01:09:59,547 --> 01:10:01,547
Speaker 13: Yeah, look, he's someone who's been around for quite a

1297
01:10:01,547 --> 01:10:03,267
Speaker 13: while and he's won I think off the top of

1298
01:10:03,307 --> 01:10:07,347
Speaker 13: my head, he's won seven four Tour titles during his career,

1299
01:10:07,627 --> 01:10:11,107
Speaker 13: so it's probably it's probably a surprise he's done as

1300
01:10:11,107 --> 01:10:14,187
Speaker 13: far as he had but he has been around for

1301
01:10:14,227 --> 01:10:16,867
Speaker 13: a few years. He has shown the capability. But as

1302
01:10:16,907 --> 01:10:19,107
Speaker 13: he touched on with his blurred vision, you know, it's

1303
01:10:19,107 --> 01:10:21,427
Speaker 13: incredible that you know he can do it. You think

1304
01:10:21,427 --> 01:10:23,747
Speaker 13: about I don't know someone like myself, for example, who

1305
01:10:23,747 --> 01:10:25,907
Speaker 13: I think. I've got pretty good vision and I struggled

1306
01:10:25,947 --> 01:10:28,067
Speaker 13: at the border times, you know, but you know there

1307
01:10:28,067 --> 01:10:30,227
Speaker 13: are times when you watch him play where he does

1308
01:10:30,267 --> 01:10:32,707
Speaker 13: have to stop and ask what he has scored because

1309
01:10:32,747 --> 01:10:35,667
Speaker 13: he actually can't see the board, and sometimes that can

1310
01:10:35,987 --> 01:10:41,227
Speaker 13: affect his flow and his rhythm. With that that you

1311
01:10:41,267 --> 01:10:43,307
Speaker 13: did touch on the stories that do come into the

1312
01:10:43,307 --> 01:10:45,707
Speaker 13: world chance and this is definitely one and someone like

1313
01:10:45,827 --> 01:10:49,147
Speaker 13: Ryan still now I don't know his exact ranking after

1314
01:10:49,187 --> 01:10:51,627
Speaker 13: this tournament, but he's now someone would probably are going

1315
01:10:51,627 --> 01:10:53,947
Speaker 13: to see a bit more often now because I believe

1316
01:10:54,027 --> 01:10:56,947
Speaker 13: he has jumped inside the top ten. I believe, so

1317
01:10:57,067 --> 01:10:58,827
Speaker 13: we will be seeing more of Ryan still in some

1318
01:10:58,867 --> 01:11:01,227
Speaker 13: of these big tournaments, especially in twenty twenty six.

1319
01:11:01,667 --> 01:11:04,187
Speaker 2: All right, well, I've just brought up the latest tabs

1320
01:11:04,827 --> 01:11:08,267
Speaker 2: one thirty eight Van Veen to eighty five. Where shall

1321
01:11:08,307 --> 01:11:12,027
Speaker 2: I place my investment, Ben, So.

1322
01:11:12,027 --> 01:11:17,347
Speaker 13: It's strictly your investment, Piney, That's totally fine. Look, it

1323
01:11:17,467 --> 01:11:21,227
Speaker 13: sounds ridiculous to kind of go against Luke Litler, but

1324
01:11:21,387 --> 01:11:24,707
Speaker 13: I am leaning towards that way purely from the fact

1325
01:11:24,947 --> 01:11:28,147
Speaker 13: just what we touched on before the fact that Van

1326
01:11:28,267 --> 01:11:30,747
Speaker 13: Been has been tested a bit more during this tournament

1327
01:11:30,747 --> 01:11:33,347
Speaker 13: and he's actually he's shown it. He's set up in

1328
01:11:33,387 --> 01:11:37,307
Speaker 13: those moments, he's been taking out those those clutch finishes,

1329
01:11:38,067 --> 01:11:40,147
Speaker 13: the ones that can be quite tricky. So I'm I

1330
01:11:40,747 --> 01:11:43,667
Speaker 13: am personally leaning towards what is going to be deemed

1331
01:11:43,707 --> 01:11:47,627
Speaker 13: an upset. But at the same time, I'm probably I

1332
01:11:47,707 --> 01:11:49,427
Speaker 13: probably am going to be wrong on this one because

1333
01:11:49,667 --> 01:11:52,907
Speaker 13: the way Luke Litler has been playing you, it is

1334
01:11:52,987 --> 01:11:54,707
Speaker 13: stupid to get a bed against him because of how

1335
01:11:54,747 --> 01:11:56,907
Speaker 13: good he has been. But I just get the feeling

1336
01:11:56,907 --> 01:11:58,867
Speaker 13: that when it gets to some of the nitty gritty

1337
01:11:58,907 --> 01:12:01,787
Speaker 13: moments that I don't I just don't know purely based

1338
01:12:01,827 --> 01:12:03,787
Speaker 13: on how this tournament has been and I feel like

1339
01:12:03,907 --> 01:12:07,427
Speaker 13: Van Veen has been steadily peeking towards the back end

1340
01:12:07,467 --> 01:12:09,627
Speaker 13: of the year and he's at his peak now. And

1341
01:12:10,027 --> 01:12:11,667
Speaker 13: I think to come away with a performance of that

1342
01:12:11,707 --> 01:12:14,347
Speaker 13: against Gary Anderson, I think that says a lot because

1343
01:12:14,467 --> 01:12:16,667
Speaker 13: I think had Anderson played anyone else, he comes out

1344
01:12:16,667 --> 01:12:19,387
Speaker 13: on top of that game. I'm picking it upset well.

1345
01:12:19,427 --> 01:12:21,347
Speaker 2: I have been known to be stupid and my betting

1346
01:12:21,427 --> 01:12:24,507
Speaker 2: choices in the past, so I'm look it wouldn't be

1347
01:12:24,547 --> 01:12:28,227
Speaker 2: the first time. Thanks so much for your analysis, mate,

1348
01:12:28,227 --> 01:12:31,387
Speaker 2: Ben Francis on the darts, Luke Littler and giaon Van

1349
01:12:31,467 --> 01:12:34,027
Speaker 2: Vane going head to hit in the final Tomorrow morning,

1350
01:12:34,107 --> 01:12:35,507
Speaker 2: seventeen away from two.

1351
01:12:36,347 --> 01:12:39,827
Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your home of Sport Weekend

1352
01:12:39,947 --> 01:12:43,787
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Pye and GJ. Gunner Homes New Zealand's

1353
01:12:43,827 --> 01:12:46,267
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder News talks'd.

1354
01:12:45,827 --> 01:12:49,707
Speaker 2: Be coming up fourteen to two. Australian correspondent Adam Peacock

1355
01:12:49,827 --> 01:12:53,307
Speaker 2: back with us for twenty twenty six to discuss sporting

1356
01:12:53,347 --> 01:12:56,067
Speaker 2: matters from across the Tasment at around this time every Saturday.

1357
01:12:56,227 --> 01:12:58,667
Speaker 2: Great to have you back, Adam. How has the year

1358
01:12:58,707 --> 01:12:59,387
Speaker 2: started for you.

1359
01:13:00,787 --> 01:13:01,907
Speaker 5: Good Pioney.

1360
01:13:03,307 --> 01:13:05,147
Speaker 14: Has your heart right after that Auckland game.

1361
01:13:05,067 --> 01:13:05,547
Speaker 5: The other day.

1362
01:13:05,747 --> 01:13:09,867
Speaker 2: Incredible. Yeah, gee, I don't think I've seen anything quite

1363
01:13:09,947 --> 01:13:12,267
Speaker 2: like that. But the A League continues to surprise us,

1364
01:13:12,307 --> 01:13:16,707
Speaker 2: doesn't it an unlikely result for Newcastle, but a terrific

1365
01:13:16,747 --> 01:13:19,627
Speaker 2: performance from them. Of course in your hometown, We've got

1366
01:13:19,667 --> 01:13:22,987
Speaker 2: an Ashes Test to look forward to starting tomorrow. Before

1367
01:13:22,987 --> 01:13:26,627
Speaker 2: we get to the Test itself. Osmond Kowaja has announced

1368
01:13:26,627 --> 01:13:30,467
Speaker 2: his retirement from Test cricket. What will his legacy in

1369
01:13:30,507 --> 01:13:31,827
Speaker 2: the Australian Test team be?

1370
01:13:34,547 --> 01:13:37,387
Speaker 14: Very much a guy who has done in his own way. Look,

1371
01:13:37,587 --> 01:13:40,187
Speaker 14: he's not going to have the legacy of the greats.

1372
01:13:40,187 --> 01:13:43,387
Speaker 14: He's not going to like the absolute greats of a

1373
01:13:43,747 --> 01:13:46,307
Speaker 14: speaking in mythical status of the ability of a guy

1374
01:13:46,347 --> 01:13:49,467
Speaker 14: like Ricky Ponting for instance. But he's certainly a guy

1375
01:13:49,547 --> 01:13:52,707
Speaker 14: that's contributed over a very long time in a very

1376
01:13:52,707 --> 01:13:56,067
Speaker 14: difficult period for frustrating cricket. When you know, he came into

1377
01:13:56,067 --> 01:14:00,067
Speaker 14: the side when we were pretty much rock bottom, he

1378
01:14:00,107 --> 01:14:02,067
Speaker 14: went in and out of the side and then he's

1379
01:14:02,267 --> 01:14:06,187
Speaker 14: done it his ways, proven himself over a very long

1380
01:14:06,187 --> 01:14:08,307
Speaker 14: time period of time and he spoke in his mind

1381
01:14:08,347 --> 01:14:11,267
Speaker 14: about the whole range of issues which I dare say

1382
01:14:11,427 --> 01:14:13,827
Speaker 14: now that he's retired, he's can only continue to and

1383
01:14:13,867 --> 01:14:16,747
Speaker 14: double down on so fair play of the guy had

1384
01:14:16,787 --> 01:14:20,067
Speaker 14: done it his way. And yet it's certainly not the

1385
01:14:20,147 --> 01:14:23,067
Speaker 14: last will hear of him, but it's this week coming

1386
01:14:23,107 --> 01:14:25,387
Speaker 14: as the last to see of him as an Australian Test.

1387
01:14:25,187 --> 01:14:27,627
Speaker 2: Cricket he certainly find. Yeah, he certainly fight a few

1388
01:14:27,627 --> 01:14:29,827
Speaker 2: shots on his way out, didn't he. He said, among

1389
01:14:29,867 --> 01:14:33,547
Speaker 2: other things, that as a Pakistani born Muslim, he believes

1390
01:14:33,547 --> 01:14:36,027
Speaker 2: there's been a difference in the way he was reported

1391
01:14:36,067 --> 01:14:39,987
Speaker 2: on compared to many of his teammates. Is that valid?

1392
01:14:42,187 --> 01:14:46,787
Speaker 14: Look, I can't speak for him because I can't tell

1393
01:14:46,867 --> 01:14:52,307
Speaker 14: him how to feel commercially. I can't speak for anything

1394
01:14:52,347 --> 01:14:54,987
Speaker 14: other than what my for instance, I talk about on

1395
01:14:55,067 --> 01:14:58,787
Speaker 14: the Cricket podcast I do, or what I value as

1396
01:14:58,827 --> 01:15:02,187
Speaker 14: good journalism in cricket and seeing it. I haven't seen that.

1397
01:15:02,507 --> 01:15:06,667
Speaker 14: I certainly hope, I hope in goodness, I haven't come

1398
01:15:07,587 --> 01:15:12,147
Speaker 14: across that. For instance, he said about his backspasm problems

1399
01:15:12,187 --> 01:15:14,507
Speaker 14: over in Perth that there was a there was a

1400
01:15:14,547 --> 01:15:17,747
Speaker 14: carry on that kind of had undertones of it wasn't

1401
01:15:17,867 --> 01:15:20,547
Speaker 14: just about a backspasm, if you know what I mean. Now,

1402
01:15:21,547 --> 01:15:23,507
Speaker 14: I looked at it and I kind of viewed it

1403
01:15:23,507 --> 01:15:26,307
Speaker 14: as well. If you're having two backspasms in the day,

1404
01:15:26,347 --> 01:15:28,507
Speaker 14: you've obviously got some underlying issue, and if you play

1405
01:15:28,547 --> 01:15:30,307
Speaker 14: golf in the lead up to it, it's not going

1406
01:15:30,387 --> 01:15:34,307
Speaker 14: to help. Now, that's just a plain medical fact. So

1407
01:15:35,867 --> 01:15:40,227
Speaker 14: he maybe interpreted other matters of supporting it in another way,

1408
01:15:40,267 --> 01:15:42,987
Speaker 14: which again, as I said at the top there, it's

1409
01:15:43,027 --> 01:15:47,387
Speaker 14: fine and that he'll say he won't hold something with

1410
01:15:47,467 --> 01:15:50,667
Speaker 14: him if he feels that he's been slidered in that way,

1411
01:15:51,227 --> 01:15:53,587
Speaker 14: and that's fair enough. You can only applord the guy

1412
01:15:53,667 --> 01:15:57,947
Speaker 14: for not hiding his true thoughts and speaking his mind.

1413
01:15:58,387 --> 01:16:01,827
Speaker 2: And often we don't particularly like it when our supports

1414
01:16:01,867 --> 01:16:03,907
Speaker 2: people were Some people don't like it when our sports

1415
01:16:03,907 --> 01:16:06,307
Speaker 2: people speak their minds. We just prefer, I think sometimes

1416
01:16:06,387 --> 01:16:08,987
Speaker 2: that they went about their business of performing well for

1417
01:16:09,027 --> 01:16:12,027
Speaker 2: their country. Where does the weight of public opinion lie?

1418
01:16:12,347 --> 01:16:14,107
Speaker 2: Has he been a polarizing figure?

1419
01:16:14,907 --> 01:16:18,027
Speaker 14: Yeah, just on that first notion, it's interesting that politicians

1420
01:16:18,067 --> 01:16:20,827
Speaker 14: are allowed to watch sport and comment on sport, but

1421
01:16:20,867 --> 01:16:23,227
Speaker 14: it can't go the other way around. When we feel

1422
01:16:23,267 --> 01:16:26,907
Speaker 14: that politicians are letting us down, you know, like where

1423
01:16:26,947 --> 01:16:30,507
Speaker 14: the politicians were the adults in the room. So o

1424
01:16:30,587 --> 01:16:33,027
Speaker 14: case you had noticed that, I hadn't noticed that. Sometimes

1425
01:16:33,027 --> 01:16:37,147
Speaker 14: that's not entirely true. What was the second part?

1426
01:16:37,507 --> 01:16:39,827
Speaker 2: I just wondered whether he'd been a polarizing figure.

1427
01:16:40,507 --> 01:16:44,587
Speaker 14: Yeah, well on that basis, yes, yeah, absolutely, because people

1428
01:16:44,667 --> 01:16:46,947
Speaker 14: will then look at him and go, well, I don't

1429
01:16:46,947 --> 01:16:48,507
Speaker 14: care what you do about as a frigative, but don't

1430
01:16:48,507 --> 01:16:50,787
Speaker 14: tell me that I'm this or on that or you

1431
01:16:50,827 --> 01:16:53,667
Speaker 14: can't say that or yeah, absolutely he's a polarizing figure,

1432
01:16:53,667 --> 01:16:54,907
Speaker 14: and I think he's comfortable with that.

1433
01:16:55,747 --> 01:16:59,227
Speaker 2: So the Fifth Ashist Tea starts in Sydney tomorrow. Any

1434
01:16:59,267 --> 01:17:01,267
Speaker 2: chance we get a five day test or even one

1435
01:17:01,307 --> 01:17:02,507
Speaker 2: that gets to the third day.

1436
01:17:03,787 --> 01:17:06,107
Speaker 15: Good news piny at Sydney and it's going to rain tomorrow.

1437
01:17:08,587 --> 01:17:13,627
Speaker 15: But it has not rained in three months. Three months

1438
01:17:13,787 --> 01:17:16,547
Speaker 15: there's been like just drought like conditions.

1439
01:17:16,547 --> 01:17:18,867
Speaker 14: The golf club that I play at like it is

1440
01:17:18,947 --> 01:17:21,827
Speaker 14: like driving down a concrete hallway At the moment, the

1441
01:17:21,867 --> 01:17:25,507
Speaker 14: ball just runs. However, day one you look at the

1442
01:17:25,507 --> 01:17:30,227
Speaker 14: forecast and it's gonna have storms every two hours or

1443
01:17:30,267 --> 01:17:33,347
Speaker 14: whatever like that. So nothing like a drought breaking Sydney

1444
01:17:33,387 --> 01:17:37,187
Speaker 14: Test to kind of fill up the dams. Yeah, I

1445
01:17:37,227 --> 01:17:39,987
Speaker 14: reckon we'll get the day fourth on the basis of

1446
01:17:39,987 --> 01:17:41,507
Speaker 14: the weather, and I think the pitch will have a

1447
01:17:41,507 --> 01:17:44,307
Speaker 14: little lesson in the MCG and also there will be

1448
01:17:44,307 --> 01:17:47,987
Speaker 14: a natural adjustment and that is about oh well maybe

1449
01:17:48,027 --> 01:17:49,707
Speaker 14: if the ball is doing a bit, maybe I can

1450
01:17:49,747 --> 01:17:53,587
Speaker 14: adjust different ways. So yeah, I'd be very surprised if

1451
01:17:53,587 --> 01:17:55,467
Speaker 14: we're done by Monday afternoon for our way.

1452
01:17:55,827 --> 01:17:58,627
Speaker 2: Any idea what the mindsets of the respective teams will be?

1453
01:17:58,667 --> 01:18:01,587
Speaker 2: I mean that the Ashes are done. You know, Australia

1454
01:18:01,627 --> 01:18:05,787
Speaker 2: has retained the Ashes. England got some pride back in

1455
01:18:06,067 --> 01:18:08,827
Speaker 2: the Boxing Day Test of course to make it three

1456
01:18:08,867 --> 01:18:12,907
Speaker 2: to one, Like will Australia be keen not to have

1457
01:18:12,947 --> 01:18:16,027
Speaker 2: a three to two series result? Will England be deeply

1458
01:18:16,067 --> 01:18:18,547
Speaker 2: motivated to make it that? What sort of mindset do

1459
01:18:18,547 --> 01:18:21,187
Speaker 2: you expect from the two sets of players.

1460
01:18:21,627 --> 01:18:24,187
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I think I'll be first, really first, and

1461
01:18:24,267 --> 01:18:28,427
Speaker 14: for get kind of win the game so they won't

1462
01:18:28,467 --> 01:18:32,027
Speaker 14: feel like a dead rather like Origin when orangein Soon

1463
01:18:32,107 --> 01:18:35,267
Speaker 14: n Ill they both just rip into each other. So

1464
01:18:36,387 --> 01:18:38,547
Speaker 14: I think in that respect it will still be an

1465
01:18:38,667 --> 01:18:42,507
Speaker 14: ultra competitive Maybe I have the absolute edge on it,

1466
01:18:42,867 --> 01:18:44,787
Speaker 14: and I think for England the motivation of three to

1467
01:18:44,827 --> 01:18:47,387
Speaker 14: two is very much and we know how they think.

1468
01:18:47,387 --> 01:18:49,667
Speaker 14: They'll probably take that back and go, yeah, we should

1469
01:18:49,667 --> 01:18:52,787
Speaker 14: have won that whole series. Well, no, you were three

1470
01:18:52,867 --> 01:18:55,387
Speaker 14: nil down and you lost a series of big moments

1471
01:18:55,427 --> 01:18:58,627
Speaker 14: in those first three cases. Didn't deserve to even consider

1472
01:18:58,707 --> 01:19:02,427
Speaker 14: winning the series on the basis of that. So yeah,

1473
01:19:02,507 --> 01:19:05,307
Speaker 14: it'll be interesting to see how it's portrayed by the

1474
01:19:05,347 --> 01:19:07,267
Speaker 14: English if they do get three two, I'll be for

1475
01:19:07,347 --> 01:19:09,507
Speaker 14: far more fast. Not that, but say we go up

1476
01:19:09,547 --> 01:19:12,187
Speaker 14: four to one, because tim personally, I'll be far more

1477
01:19:12,187 --> 01:19:14,467
Speaker 14: happier if we go up for one and take that

1478
01:19:14,547 --> 01:19:15,427
Speaker 14: series win that way.

1479
01:19:16,067 --> 01:19:18,707
Speaker 2: Indeed, Well, I hope you get some good golfing today

1480
01:19:18,747 --> 01:19:21,947
Speaker 2: on those concrete like fair ways and then a bit

1481
01:19:21,987 --> 01:19:23,627
Speaker 2: of rain tomorrow. By the sounds of it. Thanks for

1482
01:19:23,707 --> 01:19:26,627
Speaker 2: joining us as always, Adam, we'll catch up again next Saturday.

1483
01:19:26,787 --> 01:19:28,707
Speaker 2: Sounds good bye tack mane No, thank you mate. That

1484
01:19:28,747 --> 01:19:30,867
Speaker 2: is Adam Peacock, a familiar voice to us. He as

1485
01:19:30,867 --> 01:19:34,547
Speaker 2: our Australian correspondent, locked in again for twenty twenty six

1486
01:19:34,907 --> 01:19:37,387
Speaker 2: around about this time every Saturday, bringing us the big

1487
01:19:37,387 --> 01:19:41,587
Speaker 2: sporting issues and stories from across the Tasman seven to

1488
01:19:41,587 --> 01:19:44,467
Speaker 2: two in Nelson, the Hines and the eighteenth over one

1489
01:19:44,547 --> 01:19:46,867
Speaker 2: fifty four for four, so they've got their bonus point

1490
01:19:47,067 --> 01:19:50,027
Speaker 2: from getting to one hundred and fifty and looking to

1491
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Speaker 2: push on towards a very competitive total against Canterbury in

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Speaker 2: the women's Super Smash match. The means game to follow,

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Speaker 2: of course, at around four twenty five. Back in the

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Speaker 2: moment on Weekend Sport, the scoop.

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Speaker 1: From the trag fields and the court on your homeo

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Speaker 1: sort Sports Jason Vine News TALKB.

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Speaker 2: Four to two. After the News at two will catch

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01:20:11,667 --> 01:20:12,987
Speaker 2: you up on some of the stuff you might have

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Speaker 2: missed with in case you missed it, Nicholas Lampre and

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Speaker 2: tournament director of the ASB Classic, on the draw which

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Speaker 2: in the last hour or so he has conducted for

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01:20:22,787 --> 01:20:27,307
Speaker 2: the Women's ASB Classic. Qualifying continues today and tomorrow, with

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Speaker 2: the tournament proper starting on Monday. Elliot Smith will have

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Speaker 2: the full details of the draw in our Sports News.

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01:20:33,827 --> 01:20:36,907
Speaker 2: Nicholas Lamper and after two and we'll hear the departing

1506
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Speaker 2: thoughts of Usman Kawaja.

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Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

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01:20:42,867 --> 01:20:46,707
Speaker 1: on and after Fields. It's all on Weekend Sport with

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Speaker 1: Jason Pain on your home of sport US Talk.

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Speaker 2: It's two o seven. Welcome into the show. This is

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Speaker 2: Weekend Sport on News Talk SIB. We don't stop through

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Speaker 2: the Christmas New Year period. We just carry on really

1513
01:21:01,867 --> 01:21:04,227
Speaker 2: and there's a bit to talk before we hand over

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Speaker 2: to Adam Cooper after three four summer weekends. As you

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Speaker 2: heard during our Sports News, the draw has been made

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Speaker 2: for the ASB Women's Classic. We'll break that down with

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01:21:14,587 --> 01:21:19,227
Speaker 2: Totema director Nicholas Lamper and shortly, Emma Maine is on

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01:21:19,267 --> 01:21:21,947
Speaker 2: the show ahead of the Wellington Phoenix women's match against

1519
01:21:21,987 --> 01:21:27,147
Speaker 2: Brisbane Raw tonight. It'll be her fiftieth in Wellington Phoenix Colors,

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01:21:27,227 --> 01:21:30,547
Speaker 2: just the fourth player to achieve that and the next

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01:21:30,547 --> 01:21:33,387
Speaker 2: women coming in pretty good form. Ten unanswered goals in

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Speaker 2: the last two games, so they're on a bit of

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Speaker 2: a high. Emma Maine. This out Wasmond Kawaja as well.

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Speaker 2: You might have caught this news. I'm sure you have

1525
01:21:40,107 --> 01:21:44,147
Speaker 2: cricket fans that he will retire after the fifth Ashes Test,

1526
01:21:44,187 --> 01:21:47,427
Speaker 2: which is scheduled to start tomorrow in Sydney. But of

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01:21:47,427 --> 01:21:50,467
Speaker 2: a full circle moment for Usband Kawaja. He debuted at

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01:21:50,667 --> 01:21:55,427
Speaker 2: the SCG and after a decade and a half in

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01:21:55,467 --> 01:21:58,267
Speaker 2: the national site, in and out at various stages, he

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01:21:58,347 --> 01:22:03,067
Speaker 2: will finish as a Test player after the fifth Ashes

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01:22:03,107 --> 01:22:06,587
Speaker 2: Test in Sydney. He made some very interesting comment and

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01:22:06,667 --> 01:22:09,667
Speaker 2: his press conference yesterday which i'd like to play out

1533
01:22:09,707 --> 01:22:12,587
Speaker 2: for you. We'll keep eyes on live sport as well,

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01:22:12,587 --> 01:22:15,507
Speaker 2: including the Super Smash in Nelson. You can get in

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01:22:15,547 --> 01:22:17,627
Speaker 2: touch with us when you be like, oh, eight hundred

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01:22:17,627 --> 01:22:19,747
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty is the phone number is always

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01:22:19,827 --> 01:22:22,307
Speaker 2: nine two niney two is the text line. It never

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01:22:22,427 --> 01:22:25,627
Speaker 2: changes and we've decided in twenty twenty six that we're

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Speaker 2: not going to change what we do after the two

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Speaker 2: o'clock news on weekend sport either. It's become a pretty

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01:22:31,067 --> 01:22:34,387
Speaker 2: popular feature. Some people just tune in for this feature

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01:22:34,427 --> 01:22:36,187
Speaker 2: and then they go and do something else. We're fine

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01:22:36,227 --> 01:22:38,627
Speaker 2: with that. It's a good way to catch up on

1544
01:22:38,667 --> 01:22:40,827
Speaker 2: some of the stuff you might have missed in case

1545
01:22:41,347 --> 01:22:45,267
Speaker 2: you missed it. Starting in the A League, after conceding early,

1546
01:22:45,347 --> 01:22:48,507
Speaker 2: Melbourne Victory came from behind to beat Perth Glory.

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01:22:49,587 --> 01:22:51,907
Speaker 10: As ASKI, oh, genre's done brilliantly.

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01:22:52,227 --> 01:22:57,907
Speaker 16: Here's Matta que Matta Santas and there was another costly giveaway.

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01:22:59,387 --> 01:23:03,107
Speaker 10: Brilliant playing from Denny Zenro and the Spaniard.

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Speaker 3: With the assist for.

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01:23:04,107 --> 01:23:07,147
Speaker 4: The Brazilians second in many games.

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01:23:07,907 --> 01:23:09,387
Speaker 3: Well now they have that third.

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01:23:09,147 --> 01:23:12,987
Speaker 2: Goal mayor the margin of victory three too for Melbourne victory.

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01:23:13,027 --> 01:23:16,147
Speaker 2: They win and increase their winning run to four straight games.

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01:23:16,547 --> 01:23:18,947
Speaker 2: In the Premier League. Liverpool haven't been able to keep

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01:23:18,947 --> 01:23:20,267
Speaker 2: in touch with the leaders, though.

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Speaker 6: Liverpool supports urge in their team to get it in

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01:23:23,507 --> 01:23:31,867
Speaker 6: the mixer year at kat Jack gets a week from

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01:23:31,867 --> 01:23:34,627
Speaker 6: Woka four yet could be all cuts it out to

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01:23:34,747 --> 01:23:36,307
Speaker 6: that will be the final action.

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Speaker 2: It finishes nil nil Yeah Liverpool in Leeds with a

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Speaker 2: Nille drawer. It has Liverpool in fourth place, six points

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01:23:45,187 --> 01:23:48,867
Speaker 2: behind Aston Villa, who are third in the Australian National

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Speaker 2: Basketball League. A big night the Kiwi Flynn Cameron leading

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01:23:52,907 --> 01:23:55,467
Speaker 2: the Adelaide thirty sixers to a win over the Sydney

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Speaker 2: Kings and they're staring down the.

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Speaker 6: Barrel head play outside of mcclod though, and Bryce Cotton

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Speaker 6: has got it against Malawatch.

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Speaker 2: Kings have only committed one foul in his quarter. They

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Speaker 2: go to Cameron and he's better. Yeah, Flynn Cameron leading

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01:24:10,187 --> 01:24:12,787
Speaker 2: the way with twenty five points in the eighty five

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01:24:12,947 --> 01:24:16,187
Speaker 2: seventy nine win as they move well clear at the

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Speaker 2: top of the table. Still in Australia, the Brisbane Heat

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01:24:19,267 --> 01:24:22,027
Speaker 2: have been beaten by the Melbourne Stars and a thriller

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01:24:22,547 --> 01:24:25,467
Speaker 2: with an heroic knock from Max Bryant.

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Speaker 3: To see they can't lose.

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Speaker 11: After a slum start, Max Bryant's turned into a six

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Speaker 11: hitting monster.

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Speaker 3: Bartlet and Bright.

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Speaker 4: The New Beast Prothers get it done to Brisbane in

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01:24:44,827 --> 01:24:46,627
Speaker 4: extraordinary circumstances.

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01:24:46,747 --> 01:24:49,547
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Brisbane Heat winning that one and Max Bryant's

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01:24:49,547 --> 01:24:52,387
Speaker 2: forty eight from twenty six balls seeing them chase down

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01:24:52,427 --> 01:24:54,707
Speaker 2: the one ninety five needed with two balls to spare

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01:24:55,227 --> 01:24:57,987
Speaker 2: and Maddy Green providing a captain's knock to get the

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01:24:58,027 --> 01:25:02,107
Speaker 2: Auckland Hearts a super smash win over the previously unbeaten

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Speaker 2: Wellington Blaze two back on the left.

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Speaker 17: Side boundary but not full enough And that is Madi

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Speaker 17: Grand's half century here today. What a knock from the skipper,

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01:25:14,427 --> 01:25:15,987
Speaker 17: came in with the side under a little bit of

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Speaker 17: pressure even though it was a load chase. She has

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Speaker 17: been fantastic this afternoon. Fifty one from fourty six to

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Speaker 17: her deliveries when.

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Speaker 1: It's down to the line. You made a call on

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Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Pine News talksv it's.

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Speaker 2: Our twelve past two. Venus Williams will meet fifth seed

1597
01:25:37,387 --> 01:25:40,947
Speaker 2: Magda Lynette and a blockbuster first round matchup at the

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01:25:40,987 --> 01:25:45,067
Speaker 2: ASB Women's Tennis Classic. Forty five year old Venus Williams,

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Speaker 2: handed a wild card into the tournament, has won her

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Speaker 2: previous two meetings against Lynnette, albeit both were ten years ago.

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Speaker 2: Top seed Alnas Fittelina faces world number seventy six Vivara

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01:25:57,827 --> 01:26:02,107
Speaker 2: Gritcheva of France in the first round. Williams and Fittelina

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01:26:02,147 --> 01:26:04,787
Speaker 2: have also confirmed they will link up as a doubles

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01:26:04,867 --> 01:26:08,507
Speaker 2: combination for the to Ornament. They have already been set

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01:26:08,587 --> 01:26:11,987
Speaker 2: down for the first session on day one. We're just

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01:26:12,067 --> 01:26:15,907
Speaker 2: attempting to get in touch with tournament director Nicholas Lamperin

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01:26:15,987 --> 01:26:18,067
Speaker 2: as far as the key wes are concerned. You might

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01:26:18,107 --> 01:26:21,627
Speaker 2: have heard us report yesterday which is, you know, the

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01:26:21,747 --> 01:26:25,827
Speaker 2: news of Lulusun. You know, really unfortunate news for Lulu

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01:26:25,947 --> 01:26:28,107
Speaker 2: Sun and for the tournament itself that she will not

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Speaker 2: be able to take part. Monique bowrye is the only

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Speaker 2: key We in the field. She is up against Alice

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Speaker 2: Seedel of Belgium. Alice Sedel, I think is the in

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01:26:39,787 --> 01:26:43,627
Speaker 2: fact she's from Germany, the eighty sixth ranked player in

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01:26:43,747 --> 01:26:46,347
Speaker 2: the world, so you'd have to think that that will

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01:26:46,707 --> 01:26:49,267
Speaker 2: will take something special from Moniq Bowry if she is

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01:26:49,347 --> 01:26:53,427
Speaker 2: to somehow find a way to get past Alice Sedel.

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01:26:53,867 --> 01:26:57,307
Speaker 2: But with a raucous home crowd behind her, who knows,

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01:26:57,987 --> 01:27:00,267
Speaker 2: who knows? It may well be one of those where

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01:27:00,907 --> 01:27:03,227
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, upsets happen all the time in sports,

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01:27:03,307 --> 01:27:06,787
Speaker 2: So Monic Bowry flying the Kiwi flag qualifying can news

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Speaker 2: this weekend, but it feels unlikely that there'll be any

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01:27:10,627 --> 01:27:14,427
Speaker 2: more kew Wei involvement unfortunately, just Monique Bowry by the

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01:27:14,507 --> 01:27:19,187
Speaker 2: sounds of things, to fly the Kiwi flag. Nicholas Lamberan

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Speaker 2: with a number of other commitments that he has to

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01:27:21,747 --> 01:27:26,467
Speaker 2: negotiate in order to get through today. It's the draws

1627
01:27:26,507 --> 01:27:28,307
Speaker 2: done and then he's got to do all the other

1628
01:27:28,427 --> 01:27:30,547
Speaker 2: logistics and we're just hoping that it'll be able to

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01:27:30,547 --> 01:27:33,547
Speaker 2: take our call at some stage to run an eye

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01:27:34,107 --> 01:27:38,827
Speaker 2: over the drawer. Emma Navarro is the fifteenth seed or

1631
01:27:38,867 --> 01:27:41,547
Speaker 2: the fifteenth ranked player in the world, the second seed.

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01:27:41,627 --> 01:27:47,507
Speaker 2: Here she's up against a British player Francesca Jones, and Fitzelina,

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01:27:47,547 --> 01:27:50,787
Speaker 2: as I say, against Gritcheva in the first round. Fittelina

1634
01:27:51,027 --> 01:27:54,747
Speaker 2: and Navarro seem as though they're on a collision course

1635
01:27:55,147 --> 01:27:57,747
Speaker 2: to meet in the finals. Fittialena is fourteenth in the world,

1636
01:27:58,147 --> 01:28:01,787
Speaker 2: Emma Navarro is currently the fifteenth ranked player in the world,

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01:28:01,867 --> 01:28:04,587
Speaker 2: and then you drop all the way down to the

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01:28:04,707 --> 01:28:08,827
Speaker 2: third seed at this tournament, Djovich, and she is in

1639
01:28:08,907 --> 01:28:12,427
Speaker 2: the thirties currently in the world. So it feels as

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01:28:12,467 --> 01:28:18,187
Speaker 2: though Switzelina and Navarro are the two likeliest finalists, but

1641
01:28:18,907 --> 01:28:25,067
Speaker 2: things can change, and yeah, odd things happen at tournaments

1642
01:28:25,107 --> 01:28:27,867
Speaker 2: of this type, especially early in the year, players looking

1643
01:28:27,987 --> 01:28:31,267
Speaker 2: ahead to the Australian Tennis Open and how they might

1644
01:28:32,147 --> 01:28:34,707
Speaker 2: prepare best for that. All of these players, or the

1645
01:28:34,787 --> 01:28:38,787
Speaker 2: majority of the top seeded players anyway, will be heading

1646
01:28:38,827 --> 01:28:41,667
Speaker 2: across to the Australian Open when that gets underway, so

1647
01:28:41,787 --> 01:28:43,907
Speaker 2: they'll have to manage their way through this weather wise.

1648
01:28:45,187 --> 01:28:50,107
Speaker 2: It's always a very interesting little side issue to the

1649
01:28:50,227 --> 01:28:52,867
Speaker 2: tennis and Auckland, isn't it. That the weather can play

1650
01:28:52,907 --> 01:28:56,587
Speaker 2: a part. And we're looking forward to the roof being

1651
01:28:56,667 --> 01:29:00,427
Speaker 2: put on the Auckland Tennis Center, the center court. Anyway,

1652
01:29:00,547 --> 01:29:03,987
Speaker 2: that investment has been confirmed by the sounds of it.

1653
01:29:04,267 --> 01:29:06,747
Speaker 2: It might not quite be finished by next next year,

1654
01:29:07,027 --> 01:29:10,267
Speaker 2: but twenty twenty eight, certainly it will be will be

1655
01:29:10,547 --> 01:29:13,507
Speaker 2: a roofed center court. But I'm looking ahead to the forecast.

1656
01:29:13,507 --> 01:29:16,627
Speaker 2: There's a bit of rain around today and tomorrow, but

1657
01:29:16,787 --> 01:29:19,507
Speaker 2: from Monday, I'm looking at this at the long term

1658
01:29:19,587 --> 01:29:24,827
Speaker 2: forecast here the seven day forecast and Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

1659
01:29:24,867 --> 01:29:28,747
Speaker 2: there's no rain in the forecast at all, which I'm

1660
01:29:28,827 --> 01:29:32,507
Speaker 2: sure will be a huge relief for Nicholas Lamper and

1661
01:29:32,547 --> 01:29:34,547
Speaker 2: who in the past. I mean, it's the one thing

1662
01:29:34,667 --> 01:29:38,067
Speaker 2: you can't control, right. You can do everything in your

1663
01:29:38,227 --> 01:29:43,027
Speaker 2: power to get things ready for the tournament, to secure

1664
01:29:43,107 --> 01:29:45,707
Speaker 2: all of the best players, and the one thing you cannot,

1665
01:29:46,107 --> 01:29:50,427
Speaker 2: you cannot negotiate for, is the weather. Nicholas Lamper and

1666
01:29:50,467 --> 01:29:52,587
Speaker 2: joins us, Nicholas, I know you're very busy just on

1667
01:29:52,667 --> 01:29:55,187
Speaker 2: the weather. You'll be delighted with the forecast. Hardly any

1668
01:29:55,307 --> 01:29:57,147
Speaker 2: rain in the forecast at all beyond tomorrow.

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01:29:58,667 --> 01:30:00,787
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hi, Yeah, so far so good.

1670
01:30:01,787 --> 01:30:05,987
Speaker 18: You know, quality is starting this morning at eleven. I

1671
01:30:06,027 --> 01:30:10,307
Speaker 18: think we just need to get through today because potentially

1672
01:30:10,467 --> 01:30:14,347
Speaker 18: some showers, but I think from tomorrow onwards, the rest

1673
01:30:14,387 --> 01:30:16,187
Speaker 18: of the week looks pretty good.

1674
01:30:16,827 --> 01:30:18,827
Speaker 2: The draw has been made. How happy are you with

1675
01:30:18,947 --> 01:30:21,267
Speaker 2: the draw you've got for the women's tournament.

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01:30:24,027 --> 01:30:28,187
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it's a very progressive draw. The top

1677
01:30:28,267 --> 01:30:32,387
Speaker 18: seeds are protected in the first few rounds, but at

1678
01:30:32,387 --> 01:30:36,387
Speaker 18: the same time got some interesting matchups with various Williams

1679
01:30:36,467 --> 01:30:40,147
Speaker 18: coming back and playing the number five seed, and also

1680
01:30:40,267 --> 01:30:44,387
Speaker 18: Alexandro he had at the number four seed, facing Donovikich

1681
01:30:44,947 --> 01:30:47,947
Speaker 18: in the first round, who was a silver medalist at

1682
01:30:47,987 --> 01:30:49,147
Speaker 18: the Paris Olympics.

1683
01:30:49,667 --> 01:30:52,947
Speaker 2: Can you just give us some insight into the draw procedure, Nicholas,

1684
01:30:52,987 --> 01:30:53,907
Speaker 2: How does it all work?

1685
01:30:55,987 --> 01:30:58,987
Speaker 18: It's all based on ranking. So basically what we do

1686
01:30:59,307 --> 01:31:05,067
Speaker 18: is we you have eight seeds which are positioned on

1687
01:31:05,227 --> 01:31:07,947
Speaker 18: a particular line of the draw, and then all all

1688
01:31:08,027 --> 01:31:11,187
Speaker 18: the rest is it's random, so we just pick the

1689
01:31:11,267 --> 01:31:14,467
Speaker 18: numbers and they're being allocated from top to bottom.

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Speaker 2: Elena Spittelina and Emmanavarro are your top two seeds. Do

1691
01:31:19,227 --> 01:31:22,227
Speaker 2: they feel as though they're on a collision course to

1692
01:31:22,387 --> 01:31:23,147
Speaker 2: meet in the final.

1693
01:31:24,867 --> 01:31:28,187
Speaker 18: I would think so, But at the same time, it's

1694
01:31:28,387 --> 01:31:31,787
Speaker 18: you know, the first tooman of the year, and the

1695
01:31:32,267 --> 01:31:35,307
Speaker 18: form and the level of preparation of players can can

1696
01:31:35,547 --> 01:31:38,467
Speaker 18: really vary from you know, one player to the next one.

1697
01:31:39,027 --> 01:31:41,987
Speaker 18: So I guess, you know, I would say if they

1698
01:31:42,067 --> 01:31:45,147
Speaker 18: win their first two rounds, we could you know, potentially

1699
01:31:45,667 --> 01:31:47,907
Speaker 18: see them, you know, going as far as the as

1700
01:31:47,947 --> 01:31:48,347
Speaker 18: the final.

1701
01:31:49,107 --> 01:31:51,947
Speaker 2: How much do you enjoy having Venus Williams in Auckland.

1702
01:31:53,827 --> 01:31:56,347
Speaker 18: It's it's a massive joy for us. You know, she's

1703
01:31:56,707 --> 01:32:01,067
Speaker 18: she's she's bigger than any of the players in the

1704
01:32:01,147 --> 01:32:06,267
Speaker 18: tennis world. She's dedication at forty five years old. Is

1705
01:32:06,587 --> 01:32:09,627
Speaker 18: is you know, never never heard of she? She's the

1706
01:32:09,747 --> 01:32:13,667
Speaker 18: first one at the club in the morning when everybody

1707
01:32:13,667 --> 01:32:17,547
Speaker 18: else is probably still sleeping. She's training early. She's then

1708
01:32:17,627 --> 01:32:21,787
Speaker 18: at the gym and then she actually asked us yesterday

1709
01:32:21,907 --> 01:32:25,787
Speaker 18: about playing doubles as well, so I can I can

1710
01:32:25,907 --> 01:32:28,267
Speaker 18: announce you that she will be competing in the doubles

1711
01:32:28,387 --> 01:32:30,787
Speaker 18: draw with Elena as Vitalina.

1712
01:32:31,267 --> 01:32:34,907
Speaker 2: Oh brilliant, so Venus Williams and Elena's Fortelena as a

1713
01:32:35,027 --> 01:32:38,627
Speaker 2: doubles combination and it's it'll be something to look out for.

1714
01:32:38,747 --> 01:32:40,427
Speaker 2: Have you've got Have you done the draw for the doubles.

1715
01:32:40,467 --> 01:32:42,587
Speaker 2: I think you may have. They they're going to play

1716
01:32:42,587 --> 01:32:44,987
Speaker 2: on Daiwana. They as a as a doubles.

1717
01:32:45,347 --> 01:32:45,667
Speaker 5: We haven't.

1718
01:32:45,827 --> 01:32:48,947
Speaker 18: We haven't done the draw for the doubles yet because

1719
01:32:48,987 --> 01:32:54,427
Speaker 18: the signing deadline finishes tomorrow, but we know already that

1720
01:32:54,787 --> 01:32:59,867
Speaker 18: will schedule Venue and Elena for the first doubles match

1721
01:32:59,987 --> 01:33:01,707
Speaker 18: on on Monday during the day session.

1722
01:33:02,267 --> 01:33:05,707
Speaker 2: Outstanding Harmonic Barry the Kiwi a first round meeting with

1723
01:33:05,747 --> 01:33:09,387
Speaker 2: eighty six ranked German Ella Seigel. Could she cause an

1724
01:33:09,467 --> 01:33:12,227
Speaker 2: upset with a raucous home crowd behind her?

1725
01:33:14,227 --> 01:33:15,387
Speaker 10: I would love to think so.

1726
01:33:15,547 --> 01:33:17,987
Speaker 18: I think, you know, Monigue's got a got a big game,

1727
01:33:18,067 --> 01:33:19,907
Speaker 18: and she's she's got what it takes to to be

1728
01:33:20,107 --> 01:33:23,907
Speaker 18: those those girls ranking in the top hundred. You know,

1729
01:33:24,027 --> 01:33:27,147
Speaker 18: last year she she wasn't far. She she was an

1730
01:33:27,227 --> 01:33:29,147
Speaker 18: on really good form and I you know, I'm really

1731
01:33:29,187 --> 01:33:32,747
Speaker 18: looking forward to see how much she's improved twelve months later.

1732
01:33:33,347 --> 01:33:35,147
Speaker 2: Fantastic. I know you've got other things to do, Nicholas,

1733
01:33:35,187 --> 01:33:37,827
Speaker 2: but what does take up most of your time during

1734
01:33:37,867 --> 01:33:40,347
Speaker 2: the tournament. You've got us to this point, the draws done,

1735
01:33:40,387 --> 01:33:42,867
Speaker 2: the tournament's about to start, we've got qualifying. What takes

1736
01:33:42,947 --> 01:33:47,787
Speaker 2: up most of your time during the tournament itself, I can't.

1737
01:33:47,747 --> 01:33:52,707
Speaker 18: Say, because it's it's so many different things that I

1738
01:33:52,827 --> 01:33:55,427
Speaker 18: need to look after. We do get a lot of

1739
01:33:55,507 --> 01:33:58,427
Speaker 18: requests from players in terms of, you know, what time

1740
01:33:58,467 --> 01:34:01,227
Speaker 18: they can practice and things they can do in Auckland,

1741
01:34:01,427 --> 01:34:03,187
Speaker 18: or what time they want to play the match or

1742
01:34:03,787 --> 01:34:06,707
Speaker 18: so there's a lot of those requests that we need

1743
01:34:06,827 --> 01:34:09,707
Speaker 18: to look after. We always spend a lot of time

1744
01:34:09,787 --> 01:34:11,987
Speaker 18: also working on the on the schedule, just to make

1745
01:34:12,027 --> 01:34:15,387
Speaker 18: sure it's fair and balanced normally for the players, but

1746
01:34:15,467 --> 01:34:18,387
Speaker 18: also for the ticket holders between the day and the

1747
01:34:18,587 --> 01:34:22,307
Speaker 18: and the evening sessions, and you know, just checking that

1748
01:34:22,547 --> 01:34:27,427
Speaker 18: everything's running smoothly around the stadium, whether it's for our sponsors,

1749
01:34:27,947 --> 01:34:33,707
Speaker 18: our fans, our broadcasters. So yeah, there's plenty to keep

1750
01:34:33,747 --> 01:34:34,347
Speaker 18: me busy.

1751
01:34:34,547 --> 01:34:36,627
Speaker 2: I bet theros. Thank you for joining us at a

1752
01:34:36,707 --> 01:34:38,347
Speaker 2: very busy time for you, Nicholas, all the best for

1753
01:34:38,387 --> 01:34:40,707
Speaker 2: the next two weeks there at the ASP Classic.

1754
01:34:41,867 --> 01:34:42,187
Speaker 10: Thank you.

1755
01:34:42,747 --> 01:34:45,627
Speaker 2: Thank Nicholas Lambor and tournament director. With the women's draw

1756
01:34:45,867 --> 01:34:49,587
Speaker 2: done and that news there that the doubles combo that'll be.

1757
01:34:49,947 --> 01:34:52,667
Speaker 2: That'll be one to watch Elena's Fittelina and Venus Williams

1758
01:34:53,387 --> 01:34:56,907
Speaker 2: teaming up as a doubles combination and they will play

1759
01:34:56,907 --> 01:35:02,147
Speaker 2: in the first session on day one. Venus Williams has

1760
01:35:02,307 --> 01:35:05,627
Speaker 2: a tournament wild card of course into the singles, up

1761
01:35:05,667 --> 01:35:10,307
Speaker 2: against fifth Magda Lynette in a blockbuster first round match.

1762
01:35:10,547 --> 01:35:14,827
Speaker 2: Fitelina will face world number seventy six Vivara Gritcheva in

1763
01:35:14,867 --> 01:35:17,747
Speaker 2: the first round. Emmenavarro as mentioned up against the British

1764
01:35:17,747 --> 01:35:20,387
Speaker 2: player Francesca Jones. We will keep you right up to

1765
01:35:20,427 --> 01:35:22,947
Speaker 2: date with all of the tennis action over the next

1766
01:35:22,987 --> 01:35:26,147
Speaker 2: little while. Canterbury have begun their chase for one hundred

1767
01:35:26,187 --> 01:35:30,187
Speaker 2: and ninety two to beat Central in the women's supersmash

1768
01:35:30,307 --> 01:35:32,867
Speaker 2: match in Nelson. Gone along pretty nicely to start with

1769
01:35:32,987 --> 01:35:35,227
Speaker 2: nineteen without loss on the second over. They're going to

1770
01:35:35,307 --> 01:35:36,907
Speaker 2: have to go for it though, aren't they with nearly

1771
01:35:36,987 --> 01:35:39,587
Speaker 2: ten and over. Requires big, big score to be chasing,

1772
01:35:39,907 --> 01:35:42,347
Speaker 2: but they've begun pretty well. The means game to follow

1773
01:35:42,747 --> 01:35:46,987
Speaker 2: at four twenty five this afternoon it's two twenty two.

1774
01:35:47,147 --> 01:35:49,827
Speaker 2: We'll take great comeback. Check in with the Wellington Phoenix

1775
01:35:49,947 --> 01:35:52,747
Speaker 2: women ahead of their match against Brisbane later on tonight.

1776
01:35:52,867 --> 01:35:55,627
Speaker 2: Emma Main about to become the fourth player to play

1777
01:35:55,707 --> 01:35:57,587
Speaker 2: fifty matches for the site. She'll join us in just

1778
01:35:57,627 --> 01:35:57,907
Speaker 2: a moment.

1779
01:35:59,227 --> 01:36:02,627
Speaker 1: The Big Issues on and after Fields Call oh eight

1780
01:36:02,747 --> 01:36:05,747
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Fain

1781
01:36:05,907 --> 01:36:10,027
Speaker 1: and Gunners New Zealand's Ice Trusted Hoe Milner News talk

1782
01:36:10,107 --> 01:36:10,947
Speaker 1: to Baby.

1783
01:36:10,987 --> 01:36:13,267
Speaker 2: Two twenty five Bev on text. Jason, can you tell

1784
01:36:13,347 --> 01:36:15,587
Speaker 2: us why Aaron Ratliffe isn't playing this year? I think

1785
01:36:15,667 --> 01:36:18,467
Speaker 2: she is, Bev. I'm pretty sure that Aaron Ratliffe will

1786
01:36:18,547 --> 01:36:22,307
Speaker 2: play the doubles at the at the ASP Classic. I've

1787
01:36:22,347 --> 01:36:25,347
Speaker 2: just had a quick quick look around and it feels

1788
01:36:25,347 --> 01:36:27,187
Speaker 2: as though I think Nicholas Lamper and said they don't

1789
01:36:27,227 --> 01:36:31,787
Speaker 2: close off entries until tomorrow. She is a partner in

1790
01:36:31,867 --> 01:36:35,507
Speaker 2: currently American Asia. Muhammad. I believe that they will be

1791
01:36:35,587 --> 01:36:37,787
Speaker 2: playing in the doubles. We'll try and confirm that for you,

1792
01:36:37,867 --> 01:36:41,907
Speaker 2: but thank you for your your inquiry. The Wellington Phoenix

1793
01:36:41,987 --> 01:36:45,307
Speaker 2: Woman and actioning in tonight against Brisbane Raw and Redcliffe

1794
01:36:45,467 --> 01:36:47,747
Speaker 2: striker Emma Main going to be the fourth player to

1795
01:36:47,787 --> 01:36:50,347
Speaker 2: bring up fifty games for the Wellington Phoenix Women.

1796
01:36:50,467 --> 01:36:54,467
Speaker 19: Tamba, great speed centering pass Tamba Mahon and for the

1797
01:36:54,627 --> 01:36:57,827
Speaker 19: setting up the afternoon. The main train has well and

1798
01:36:57,987 --> 01:37:03,227
Speaker 19: truly arrived. Three goals Wellington Phoenix. It's a wonderful moment

1799
01:37:03,307 --> 01:37:04,347
Speaker 19: for the visiting team.

1800
01:37:04,587 --> 01:37:08,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, good moment tonight too, form Main in your fiftieth game, Emma,

1801
01:37:09,067 --> 01:37:11,667
Speaker 2: did you know that this milestone was coming up?

1802
01:37:12,947 --> 01:37:14,587
Speaker 20: I knew it was coming at some point.

1803
01:37:14,707 --> 01:37:17,507
Speaker 16: I didn't quite know when this season, but it's cool

1804
01:37:17,547 --> 01:37:19,387
Speaker 16: that it's eventualized.

1805
01:37:20,547 --> 01:37:21,467
Speaker 20: Right after the new year.

1806
01:37:21,907 --> 01:37:24,907
Speaker 2: How much do you remember about your debut back end

1807
01:37:24,947 --> 01:37:27,627
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty two to twenty three season, you'd

1808
01:37:27,667 --> 01:37:30,987
Speaker 2: come and as kind of an injury injury replacement. Were

1809
01:37:31,027 --> 01:37:32,907
Speaker 2: you nervous ahead of your debut.

1810
01:37:33,707 --> 01:37:34,987
Speaker 20: Yeah, very nervous.

1811
01:37:35,187 --> 01:37:37,707
Speaker 16: I think it feels like a lifetime ago, but it

1812
01:37:37,827 --> 01:37:41,627
Speaker 16: also feels like yesterday that it happened. I remember that

1813
01:37:41,747 --> 01:37:45,627
Speaker 16: game very well, and yes, very nervous. I didn't know

1814
01:37:45,707 --> 01:37:47,627
Speaker 16: what to expect. I didn't even know if I was

1815
01:37:47,707 --> 01:37:50,707
Speaker 16: ready for the A League, but it was definitely the

1816
01:37:51,227 --> 01:37:55,747
Speaker 16: start of something amazing for me, and I've really enjoyed

1817
01:37:55,787 --> 01:37:56,907
Speaker 16: my time with the club.

1818
01:37:57,187 --> 01:37:59,227
Speaker 2: I seem to remember you came on and provide it

1819
01:37:59,307 --> 01:38:02,107
Speaker 2: and assist straight away, So clearly you were ready for

1820
01:38:02,147 --> 01:38:03,587
Speaker 2: the A leag Yeah.

1821
01:38:03,827 --> 01:38:06,787
Speaker 16: Yeahs for MILLI click. So it's definitely one a game

1822
01:38:06,867 --> 01:38:10,027
Speaker 16: to remember for me. Yeah, I loved everyone a little bit.

1823
01:38:10,307 --> 01:38:13,187
Speaker 2: So as you approach game number fifty, how different a

1824
01:38:13,307 --> 01:38:16,107
Speaker 2: player are you from the m A main who played

1825
01:38:16,147 --> 01:38:17,427
Speaker 2: game number one for the Phoenix.

1826
01:38:18,467 --> 01:38:21,787
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think I've gained a lot more experience.

1827
01:38:21,947 --> 01:38:24,067
Speaker 16: I understand the A League a little bit more, and

1828
01:38:24,227 --> 01:38:27,507
Speaker 16: also myself as a player. Over my time for the Phoenix,

1829
01:38:27,547 --> 01:38:31,027
Speaker 16: I've definitely played a few different roles, whether that's striker

1830
01:38:31,347 --> 01:38:33,707
Speaker 16: or winger. I think I've spent a little bit of

1831
01:38:33,787 --> 01:38:36,107
Speaker 16: time and wing back at points when we've needed it.

1832
01:38:36,387 --> 01:38:40,307
Speaker 16: So definitely just a little bit more experience and understanding

1833
01:38:40,387 --> 01:38:43,507
Speaker 16: of the league and what's needed each game.

1834
01:38:44,027 --> 01:38:46,267
Speaker 2: You mentioned before that you weren't sure that you were ready.

1835
01:38:46,747 --> 01:38:49,267
Speaker 2: Did there come a point where you thought, right, I

1836
01:38:49,427 --> 01:38:52,627
Speaker 2: belong here. I feel comfortable at this level now.

1837
01:38:53,827 --> 01:38:54,027
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1838
01:38:54,107 --> 01:38:58,067
Speaker 16: I think in that first season, Paul Temple really gave

1839
01:38:58,147 --> 01:39:01,267
Speaker 16: me the opportunity to shine out on the field. He

1840
01:39:01,907 --> 01:39:03,827
Speaker 16: gave me a lot of starts in that season, and

1841
01:39:04,747 --> 01:39:07,507
Speaker 16: after I think scoring your first goal for the club,

1842
01:39:07,627 --> 01:39:10,307
Speaker 16: you start to feel like, Okay, I can definitely do this,

1843
01:39:10,467 --> 01:39:12,827
Speaker 16: and I definitely belong here, and I can compete with

1844
01:39:13,347 --> 01:39:15,947
Speaker 16: all these players that are at this top level. So

1845
01:39:16,147 --> 01:39:18,547
Speaker 16: I think those were probably the moments when I felt

1846
01:39:18,667 --> 01:39:20,267
Speaker 16: like I was ready to be in.

1847
01:39:20,307 --> 01:39:20,907
Speaker 10: The A League.

1848
01:39:21,347 --> 01:39:25,107
Speaker 2: And as younger players have come into the Wellington Phoenix environment,

1849
01:39:25,187 --> 01:39:27,787
Speaker 2: have you found yourself playing a bit of a leadership role,

1850
01:39:27,987 --> 01:39:30,507
Speaker 2: you know, even just giving advice to some of the

1851
01:39:31,027 --> 01:39:32,947
Speaker 2: younger players coming into the environment.

1852
01:39:33,667 --> 01:39:34,587
Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely.

1853
01:39:34,827 --> 01:39:37,787
Speaker 16: Obviously I've been here for quite a while now, so

1854
01:39:38,267 --> 01:39:40,387
Speaker 16: I think I have a little bit of experience and

1855
01:39:40,507 --> 01:39:43,267
Speaker 16: knowledge to give that. At the same time, I'm also

1856
01:39:43,387 --> 01:39:49,547
Speaker 16: always learning off them, especially like the players like Peer. Yeah,

1857
01:39:49,587 --> 01:39:51,587
Speaker 16: other players who are coming through who just have that

1858
01:39:51,747 --> 01:39:55,347
Speaker 16: freedom on the field. Sometimes I find myself watching them

1859
01:39:55,427 --> 01:39:58,387
Speaker 16: and really trying to take things from them and put

1860
01:39:58,427 --> 01:40:01,467
Speaker 16: it into my game, because those young players just play

1861
01:40:01,507 --> 01:40:04,867
Speaker 16: with that freedom that you sometimes lose as an older player.

1862
01:40:05,027 --> 01:40:07,667
Speaker 2: So yeah, And of course you've done all of this

1863
01:40:08,107 --> 01:40:10,787
Speaker 2: in your hometown. You know, You've played your junior football

1864
01:40:10,867 --> 01:40:13,467
Speaker 2: at Upper Heart. It's ironic, isn't it. The Phoenix a

1865
01:40:13,547 --> 01:40:16,227
Speaker 2: base now not far from where you first kicked a ball,

1866
01:40:16,427 --> 01:40:19,027
Speaker 2: So you had time at Wellington United as well. How

1867
01:40:19,067 --> 01:40:23,227
Speaker 2: special has it been to play for your hometown team professionally?

1868
01:40:24,027 --> 01:40:26,747
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's a really special thing and probably

1869
01:40:27,307 --> 01:40:29,387
Speaker 16: not many people get to do it in their lifetime,

1870
01:40:29,787 --> 01:40:33,707
Speaker 16: especially professional footballers, to play for their hometown. But it's

1871
01:40:33,747 --> 01:40:36,987
Speaker 16: been really nice playing in front of my family and friends.

1872
01:40:37,067 --> 01:40:41,107
Speaker 16: But I also think just creating that pathway for girls

1873
01:40:41,667 --> 01:40:44,627
Speaker 16: in the Wellington region. You know, this fiftieth game will

1874
01:40:44,707 --> 01:40:47,787
Speaker 16: be a big milestone for me, but also I think

1875
01:40:47,987 --> 01:40:53,067
Speaker 16: Wellington football as well, it'll be a really nice, you know,

1876
01:40:53,187 --> 01:40:57,267
Speaker 16: omen to them that of what can be done just

1877
01:40:57,427 --> 01:41:00,787
Speaker 16: coming from little old Upper Hut, So it's really exciting

1878
01:41:00,907 --> 01:41:02,067
Speaker 16: for everyone involved.

1879
01:41:02,107 --> 01:41:05,307
Speaker 2: I think, well, let's bring it to the present. A

1880
01:41:05,387 --> 01:41:07,667
Speaker 2: couple of goals in Gay number forty nine for you

1881
01:41:08,507 --> 01:41:11,027
Speaker 2: and the three nil went over Western Sydney on Tuesday,

1882
01:41:11,627 --> 01:41:13,827
Speaker 2: your first goals of this season. Was that a weight

1883
01:41:13,907 --> 01:41:14,987
Speaker 2: off in any way for you?

1884
01:41:16,187 --> 01:41:18,027
Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely a huge weight off.

1885
01:41:18,307 --> 01:41:20,587
Speaker 16: As a striker, you always want to be scoring and

1886
01:41:21,147 --> 01:41:23,107
Speaker 16: after a few games you start to get a little

1887
01:41:23,107 --> 01:41:25,627
Speaker 16: bit frustrated that you're not getting on the score sheet.

1888
01:41:26,067 --> 01:41:29,827
Speaker 16: So especially when your team's winning a seven zeril game

1889
01:41:29,907 --> 01:41:32,227
Speaker 16: and you're still not on the score sheet, so it

1890
01:41:32,347 --> 01:41:34,787
Speaker 16: definitely was a weight off, but also a confidence booster

1891
01:41:34,947 --> 01:41:39,027
Speaker 16: for me and great to see Samba get a couple

1892
01:41:39,107 --> 01:41:39,987
Speaker 16: of assists as well.

1893
01:41:40,107 --> 01:41:42,147
Speaker 20: You know, she's really starting to shine in the league.

1894
01:41:42,227 --> 01:41:45,267
Speaker 16: So yeah, it was great for the team all round,

1895
01:41:45,467 --> 01:41:47,187
Speaker 16: but it was nice for me to get on the

1896
01:41:47,227 --> 01:41:48,787
Speaker 16: score sheet just on Somber.

1897
01:41:49,067 --> 01:41:53,187
Speaker 2: I mean, everywhere you go now there's this incredible Nepalese

1898
01:41:53,347 --> 01:41:55,667
Speaker 2: support that turns out. I mean at Western Sydney the

1899
01:41:55,747 --> 01:41:58,267
Speaker 2: other night, it just looked amazing. You know, what's it

1900
01:41:58,427 --> 01:42:02,427
Speaker 2: like to have that new sort of you know, throng

1901
01:42:02,507 --> 01:42:05,507
Speaker 2: of supporters. They're there to support her obviously, but by

1902
01:42:05,707 --> 01:42:07,267
Speaker 2: extension you guys as well.

1903
01:42:08,187 --> 01:42:10,907
Speaker 16: Yeah, we talked about it after the game and it

1904
01:42:11,347 --> 01:42:13,307
Speaker 16: felt like a home game for us. You know, we

1905
01:42:13,427 --> 01:42:16,867
Speaker 16: had more supporters there than Western Sydney probably did, and

1906
01:42:16,987 --> 01:42:19,747
Speaker 16: every time Sam gets the ball, the crowd just raws.

1907
01:42:20,267 --> 01:42:23,267
Speaker 16: So it's awesome to have that support, and it's awesome

1908
01:42:23,307 --> 01:42:25,107
Speaker 16: to see what she's bringing to the league. You know,

1909
01:42:25,187 --> 01:42:27,867
Speaker 16: I don't think we've probably ever seen a player that's

1910
01:42:27,947 --> 01:42:31,507
Speaker 16: had this much support across the league, so it's great

1911
01:42:31,547 --> 01:42:35,547
Speaker 16: for our team. Yeah, and we've loved having that support,

1912
01:42:36,107 --> 01:42:38,547
Speaker 16: especially in away games, you know, you don't always get that.

1913
01:42:38,787 --> 01:42:42,587
Speaker 2: So yeah, so ten unanswered goals in the last two games,

1914
01:42:42,627 --> 01:42:46,507
Speaker 2: seven against Sydney FC, three against the Wanderers. Has anything

1915
01:42:46,587 --> 01:42:50,827
Speaker 2: in particular change that has has caused this sudden flow

1916
01:42:50,947 --> 01:42:51,747
Speaker 2: of goals.

1917
01:42:52,907 --> 01:42:56,747
Speaker 16: I think after the Perth glory game or that trip

1918
01:42:56,827 --> 01:42:59,627
Speaker 16: that we went on, we really started to focus on crossing,

1919
01:42:59,867 --> 01:43:02,787
Speaker 16: crossing and finishing. Not that we weren't focusing on it before,

1920
01:43:02,827 --> 01:43:06,027
Speaker 16: but we put a lot of time on that. So

1921
01:43:06,147 --> 01:43:09,107
Speaker 16: I think just after that we've started to really create

1922
01:43:09,187 --> 01:43:12,227
Speaker 16: a chemistry between some of the girls. And now that

1923
01:43:12,347 --> 01:43:16,267
Speaker 16: we're scoring goals, Yeah, they just don't seem to stop.

1924
01:43:16,547 --> 01:43:19,107
Speaker 2: Well that's a good thing. And also you're the best

1925
01:43:19,107 --> 01:43:22,347
Speaker 2: defensive side in the competition as well, just four goals

1926
01:43:22,467 --> 01:43:25,667
Speaker 2: conceded this season. Even as an attacking player. Do you

1927
01:43:25,787 --> 01:43:28,707
Speaker 2: have a role to play in the defensive structure of

1928
01:43:28,787 --> 01:43:29,147
Speaker 2: the site?

1929
01:43:29,987 --> 01:43:33,227
Speaker 16: Yeah, definitely. I think we've got a press that we've

1930
01:43:33,587 --> 01:43:38,227
Speaker 16: all brought into as a squad. We all really know

1931
01:43:38,787 --> 01:43:42,067
Speaker 16: our roles and how to execute that press. But also

1932
01:43:42,787 --> 01:43:47,067
Speaker 16: as a defensive team, if formations change, if anything changes

1933
01:43:47,147 --> 01:43:49,707
Speaker 16: on the field, we all have the core principles that

1934
01:43:49,827 --> 01:43:53,827
Speaker 16: we you know, follow, so I think as a team,

1935
01:43:53,907 --> 01:43:56,347
Speaker 16: as a squad, as a whole, Yeah, we're definitely are

1936
01:43:56,467 --> 01:44:00,427
Speaker 16: feeling defensively sound and we always feel like one unit.

1937
01:44:01,267 --> 01:44:02,987
Speaker 2: And these two wins come off the back of a

1938
01:44:03,027 --> 01:44:06,067
Speaker 2: couple of narrow away losses. But do you feel now, Emersa,

1939
01:44:06,107 --> 01:44:07,507
Speaker 2: you've got a bit of a launching pad, but a

1940
01:44:07,587 --> 01:44:10,067
Speaker 2: momentum to really make a run at this at this

1941
01:44:10,187 --> 01:44:11,507
Speaker 2: top six in the new year.

1942
01:44:12,427 --> 01:44:14,787
Speaker 20: Yeah, I definitely think we've got a little bit of momentum.

1943
01:44:14,907 --> 01:44:17,867
Speaker 16: We were a little bit disappointed after the two losses,

1944
01:44:18,027 --> 01:44:20,387
Speaker 16: but at the same time, we took a lot away

1945
01:44:20,427 --> 01:44:23,787
Speaker 16: from them and we didn't change a whole heat, to

1946
01:44:23,867 --> 01:44:26,707
Speaker 16: be honest, we just stuck together as a team. We've

1947
01:44:26,747 --> 01:44:28,987
Speaker 16: got a great culture and I think that's starting to

1948
01:44:29,067 --> 01:44:31,467
Speaker 16: show on the field, and we knew the goals were

1949
01:44:31,507 --> 01:44:34,187
Speaker 16: going to come, and now that they're coming, hopefully they'll

1950
01:44:34,267 --> 01:44:35,667
Speaker 16: just keep continuing to come.

1951
01:44:36,547 --> 01:44:39,187
Speaker 2: So so and away wins have been hard to come

1952
01:44:39,227 --> 01:44:42,147
Speaker 2: by for this team. You've been around for a bit,

1953
01:44:42,387 --> 01:44:44,667
Speaker 2: any anything you can put your finger on as to

1954
01:44:44,707 --> 01:44:46,907
Speaker 2: why it's been so difficult to get to get wins

1955
01:44:46,947 --> 01:44:47,387
Speaker 2: on the road.

1956
01:44:49,027 --> 01:44:50,267
Speaker 20: Not that I can think of.

1957
01:44:50,507 --> 01:44:52,947
Speaker 16: But to be honest, I just think the culture that

1958
01:44:53,227 --> 01:44:56,587
Speaker 16: we have this year is just it's really accelerated this

1959
01:44:56,787 --> 01:44:59,427
Speaker 16: team and put us on that next level. And I

1960
01:44:59,507 --> 01:45:02,747
Speaker 16: think that's probably what's helping us get these ones. You know,

1961
01:45:03,187 --> 01:45:05,987
Speaker 16: we're all friends and the team, we all actually really

1962
01:45:06,067 --> 01:45:08,387
Speaker 16: enjoy spending time together, and I think that can be

1963
01:45:08,467 --> 01:45:10,827
Speaker 16: the point of difference for winning teams and losing teams.

1964
01:45:10,907 --> 01:45:13,747
Speaker 16: So I definitely think we've got to chalk a lot

1965
01:45:13,787 --> 01:45:16,987
Speaker 16: of our chemistry and momentum.

1966
01:45:16,627 --> 01:45:16,947
Speaker 3: Up to that.

1967
01:45:17,507 --> 01:45:20,067
Speaker 2: And most of your professional career, of course, has been

1968
01:45:20,147 --> 01:45:21,947
Speaker 2: under Paul Temple. He was the one who signed you

1969
01:45:21,987 --> 01:45:24,907
Speaker 2: as a full time pro. A couple of years under him,

1970
01:45:24,947 --> 01:45:27,467
Speaker 2: Beef Priestman this year, how much you're enjoying a change

1971
01:45:27,467 --> 01:45:28,907
Speaker 2: of coach and working under Bev.

1972
01:45:29,667 --> 01:45:32,627
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's always good to change it up

1973
01:45:32,987 --> 01:45:35,027
Speaker 16: and see what's out there, and you never know what

1974
01:45:35,227 --> 01:45:36,987
Speaker 16: a new coach is going to bring and how they

1975
01:45:37,187 --> 01:45:40,187
Speaker 16: approach things. But I think what she's done is she's

1976
01:45:40,267 --> 01:45:43,947
Speaker 16: really got the teams buy into our whole game philosophy,

1977
01:45:44,227 --> 01:45:48,107
Speaker 16: our principle. She's got a very clear idea of where

1978
01:45:48,147 --> 01:45:50,147
Speaker 16: she wants us to go and how she wants us

1979
01:45:50,227 --> 01:45:52,427
Speaker 16: to get there, and I think the whole team's brought

1980
01:45:52,507 --> 01:45:55,907
Speaker 16: into that, so I think, yeah, she's done a great job.

1981
01:45:56,067 --> 01:45:58,387
Speaker 16: It's been really cool to just see a change in

1982
01:45:59,067 --> 01:46:02,347
Speaker 16: the momentum of our team. And yeah, hopefully we'll continue

1983
01:46:02,387 --> 01:46:03,187
Speaker 16: to keep going up.

1984
01:46:03,347 --> 01:46:05,307
Speaker 2: Indeed, well, the back end of twenty twenty five was

1985
01:46:05,387 --> 01:46:07,387
Speaker 2: very fruitful for the team. Let's up. Twenty twenty six

1986
01:46:07,467 --> 01:46:10,027
Speaker 2: begins in the same way against Brucebane tonight on a

1987
01:46:10,067 --> 01:46:12,267
Speaker 2: special occasion for you, Emma, with your fiftieth game for

1988
01:46:12,307 --> 01:46:14,307
Speaker 2: the club. Thanks for joining us, mate and all the

1989
01:46:14,347 --> 01:46:17,427
Speaker 2: best tonight. Awesome thanks Fanning, No, thank you, Emma Main

1990
01:46:17,507 --> 01:46:20,867
Speaker 2: There fiftieth game for the Wellington Phoenix women tonight. They

1991
01:46:20,947 --> 01:46:24,627
Speaker 2: are flying this team. After a I guess you'd say

1992
01:46:24,627 --> 01:46:27,507
Speaker 2: an inconsistent start to the season where they had a

1993
01:46:27,547 --> 01:46:29,987
Speaker 2: couple of draws at home in matches they probably could

1994
01:46:29,987 --> 01:46:31,587
Speaker 2: have won, they picked up a first victory of the

1995
01:46:31,667 --> 01:46:34,627
Speaker 2: season in round three. They went away to Australia and

1996
01:46:34,707 --> 01:46:38,107
Speaker 2: lost two games over there, both by a goal to nil.

1997
01:46:38,227 --> 01:46:41,587
Speaker 2: Both games they were well and truly in if you

1998
01:46:41,667 --> 01:46:44,627
Speaker 2: look at the stats and in terms of the dominance

1999
01:46:44,667 --> 01:46:46,467
Speaker 2: that they had, but weren't able to find the back

2000
01:46:46,467 --> 01:46:48,467
Speaker 2: of the net. That wasn't a problem when they beat

2001
01:46:48,507 --> 01:46:52,027
Speaker 2: Sydney seven nil and the damn burst and they continued

2002
01:46:52,107 --> 01:46:54,187
Speaker 2: against the Wanderers last time out with a three nil win.

2003
01:46:54,307 --> 01:46:57,467
Speaker 2: So looking to win three consecutive games. I believe that

2004
01:46:57,507 --> 01:47:00,347
Speaker 2: will be the first time the Wellington Phoenix women have

2005
01:47:00,427 --> 01:47:02,587
Speaker 2: ever won three straight games. They've only been around for

2006
01:47:03,107 --> 01:47:07,067
Speaker 2: this is their fifth season. But yeah, under priests, they're

2007
01:47:07,107 --> 01:47:10,267
Speaker 2: doing very very good things. And Samba, if you even

2008
01:47:10,267 --> 01:47:12,827
Speaker 2: picked up on this story, she is Nepalese and she's

2009
01:47:12,867 --> 01:47:16,867
Speaker 2: an absolute hero in Nepal. She is that country's all

2010
01:47:16,987 --> 01:47:21,747
Speaker 2: time leading women's goalscorer and everywhere she goes in the

2011
01:47:21,827 --> 01:47:25,467
Speaker 2: A League she has just got this incredible support. The

2012
01:47:25,507 --> 01:47:29,827
Speaker 2: other night at Western Sydney there were more Western More

2013
01:47:30,107 --> 01:47:33,107
Speaker 2: Phoenix fans than Western Sydney fans, and the vast majority

2014
01:47:33,147 --> 01:47:36,867
Speaker 2: were Nepalese nationals who turned up to watch Samba and

2015
01:47:37,067 --> 01:47:40,187
Speaker 2: just cheered her every move. You know, all she has

2016
01:47:40,227 --> 01:47:42,787
Speaker 2: to do is bring the ball down, you know, just

2017
01:47:42,867 --> 01:47:44,587
Speaker 2: do a sort of clever touch and they just go

2018
01:47:44,827 --> 01:47:48,547
Speaker 2: mad for it. It's incredible. It's a great addition to

2019
01:47:48,667 --> 01:47:52,027
Speaker 2: the A League having Samba and particularly having her in

2020
01:47:52,147 --> 01:47:54,787
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix Colors three goals in the last two games

2021
01:47:55,107 --> 01:47:56,947
Speaker 2: as well for her, so she is well and truly

2022
01:47:57,067 --> 01:48:01,187
Speaker 2: up and running, up and running. The Canterbury Magicians and

2023
01:48:01,307 --> 01:48:04,147
Speaker 2: Nelson as they chased one hundred and ninety two to

2024
01:48:04,267 --> 01:48:06,667
Speaker 2: try and beat CD. They're forty nine for one and

2025
01:48:06,707 --> 01:48:09,227
Speaker 2: the fifth over, so they are making a fairly good

2026
01:48:09,667 --> 01:48:12,227
Speaker 2: start to their chase. Got to keep garn At around

2027
01:48:12,787 --> 01:48:14,867
Speaker 2: nines and tens and over to get there. But a

2028
01:48:15,067 --> 01:48:18,627
Speaker 2: very good and promising staff for Canterbury against the Central

2029
01:48:18,707 --> 01:48:21,547
Speaker 2: Hines in Nelson. We'll take a break come back and

2030
01:48:21,587 --> 01:48:24,467
Speaker 2: here's some of the parting thoughts. The very interesting parting

2031
01:48:24,547 --> 01:48:29,427
Speaker 2: thoughts of Usman Kwaja, who yesterday announced that his final

2032
01:48:29,507 --> 01:48:32,107
Speaker 2: Test match will be the one that starts tomorrow at

2033
01:48:32,147 --> 01:48:36,707
Speaker 2: the SCG, the fifth Ashes Test. He's been around for

2034
01:48:37,267 --> 01:48:41,387
Speaker 2: over fifteen years in the Australian national side, in and out.

2035
01:48:41,987 --> 01:48:44,867
Speaker 2: I think he's been dropped eight times in that fifteen

2036
01:48:44,947 --> 01:48:47,907
Speaker 2: year period, but keeps on coming back. This will be

2037
01:48:47,987 --> 01:48:50,827
Speaker 2: the last hurraho the SCG tomorrow. Well, here, as I say,

2038
01:48:50,867 --> 01:48:53,067
Speaker 2: some of his parting thoughts. When we come back here

2039
01:48:53,147 --> 01:48:54,987
Speaker 2: on weekend Sport one.

2040
01:48:55,027 --> 01:49:00,227
Speaker 1: Grudge hold n Gage Weekend Sports with Jason Pain and GJ.

2041
01:49:00,427 --> 01:49:03,827
Speaker 3: Gunner homes New Zealand's lost trusted home. Milder News talks

2042
01:49:03,867 --> 01:49:04,627
Speaker 3: to Bailey.

2043
01:49:04,707 --> 01:49:08,067
Speaker 2: Two forty one on Weekend Sport. Musmond Kawaja will retire

2044
01:49:08,107 --> 01:49:11,267
Speaker 2: from international cricket after the fifth and final Ashes Test

2045
01:49:11,347 --> 01:49:15,667
Speaker 2: against England starting tomorrow, leaving a legacy as Australia's first

2046
01:49:15,747 --> 01:49:19,267
Speaker 2: ever Muslim Test cricketer. He's thirty nine now going to

2047
01:49:19,307 --> 01:49:21,267
Speaker 2: pan up for the last time when the clash against

2048
01:49:21,307 --> 01:49:25,147
Speaker 2: England gets underway tomorrow, ending months of speculation about his future.

2049
01:49:25,507 --> 01:49:29,587
Speaker 2: It'll be his eighty eighth Test, culminating his Test career

2050
01:49:29,627 --> 01:49:32,107
Speaker 2: where it began. He made his debut at the Sydney

2051
01:49:32,107 --> 01:49:36,587
Speaker 2: Cricket Ground in twenty eleven, also against England. He held

2052
01:49:37,587 --> 01:49:43,027
Speaker 2: a very very comprehensive retirement press conference yesterday, did Usmond Kawaja.

2053
01:49:43,107 --> 01:49:46,507
Speaker 2: He was asked how long he's been thinking about retirement.

2054
01:49:46,267 --> 01:49:51,827
Speaker 21: A while in some respects, I guess the most frustrating

2055
01:49:51,867 --> 01:49:56,227
Speaker 21: part for me was where there it's the media of

2056
01:49:56,347 --> 01:50:00,507
Speaker 21: past players who would always particularly last two years, be

2057
01:50:00,627 --> 01:50:01,867
Speaker 21: attacking me by retiring.

2058
01:50:01,947 --> 01:50:04,547
Speaker 22: It felt like attacking. It was disappointing.

2059
01:50:05,467 --> 01:50:07,907
Speaker 21: I mean, I retired anytime in the last few years.

2060
01:50:08,307 --> 01:50:09,827
Speaker 21: I was happy to There was no issue. I was

2061
01:50:09,827 --> 01:50:11,107
Speaker 21: still playing well. I was still motivated.

2062
01:50:11,147 --> 01:50:12,987
Speaker 22: If I think if I retired from internet cricket, I

2063
01:50:12,987 --> 01:50:14,507
Speaker 22: still would have been playing cricket. We'd have been playing

2064
01:50:14,547 --> 01:50:14,867
Speaker 22: Big Bash.

2065
01:50:14,947 --> 01:50:18,067
Speaker 21: It wasn't a motivation thing, but obviously Andy mckdnald and

2066
01:50:18,107 --> 01:50:20,707
Speaker 21: George Bailey saw my value at opening and batting up

2067
01:50:20,707 --> 01:50:22,427
Speaker 21: the top. It's the hardest pitch in the team, and

2068
01:50:23,067 --> 01:50:24,667
Speaker 21: I kept putting myself out there for the team. I

2069
01:50:24,747 --> 01:50:27,387
Speaker 21: was like, sure it even last year where we got

2070
01:50:27,427 --> 01:50:30,187
Speaker 21: to Melbourne, I reckon you had Melbourne and I said,

2071
01:50:30,227 --> 01:50:31,667
Speaker 21: and I sat down with Edie Recdonald's.

2072
01:50:31,667 --> 01:50:35,387
Speaker 22: We always have our little catch ups, and I said.

2073
01:50:35,187 --> 01:50:38,867
Speaker 21: To him, you know what, if, at any stage right now,

2074
01:50:39,067 --> 01:50:41,307
Speaker 21: if you want me to retire, I will retire straight away.

2075
01:50:41,307 --> 01:50:43,227
Speaker 22: I have no issue. I'm not hanging on for myself.

2076
01:50:43,227 --> 01:50:44,467
Speaker 22: And that was the most annoying things.

2077
01:50:44,507 --> 01:50:46,667
Speaker 21: I felt people were coming at me and I felt,

2078
01:50:46,707 --> 01:50:48,747
Speaker 21: you know, they were saying I was selfish for staying on,

2079
01:50:48,947 --> 01:50:51,467
Speaker 21: But I wasn't staying on for myself. I mean Andrew

2080
01:50:51,507 --> 01:50:54,507
Speaker 21: Rednald c packed not bag but practically said no, I

2081
01:50:54,587 --> 01:50:55,507
Speaker 21: want you to stay.

2082
01:50:55,467 --> 01:50:57,747
Speaker 22: We need you for Sri Lanka and World Test Championship.

2083
01:50:57,747 --> 01:51:00,667
Speaker 21: I want you to stay on and so I did,

2084
01:51:00,867 --> 01:51:05,027
Speaker 21: And so it was never totally about me and glad

2085
01:51:05,027 --> 01:51:06,867
Speaker 21: I did. I was the highest run scoring Sri Lanka,

2086
01:51:07,067 --> 01:51:10,027
Speaker 21: and I rewarded him lots of ways, but that was

2087
01:51:10,067 --> 01:51:12,587
Speaker 21: probably the most frustrating thing. So I've been thinking about it,

2088
01:51:13,347 --> 01:51:17,067
Speaker 21: not wholly, but for a while in a lot of respects.

2089
01:51:17,387 --> 01:51:17,667
Speaker 10: And so.

2090
01:51:19,547 --> 01:51:22,307
Speaker 21: I guess moving into this series, I kind of had

2091
01:51:22,427 --> 01:51:24,467
Speaker 21: an inkling in my head that this would be the

2092
01:51:24,587 --> 01:51:26,787
Speaker 21: last series. I talked to Rachel about it a fair bit,

2093
01:51:26,907 --> 01:51:28,907
Speaker 21: and I knew this big chance. I didn't leave the

2094
01:51:28,947 --> 01:51:31,667
Speaker 21: door fully shut because I knew there was a chance

2095
01:51:31,707 --> 01:51:33,507
Speaker 21: I could play on. I know Andrew Dot even to

2096
01:51:33,547 --> 01:51:34,947
Speaker 21: the right to the very end when I told him

2097
01:51:35,067 --> 01:51:37,667
Speaker 21: a few days ago. I mean, he was still thinking

2098
01:51:37,707 --> 01:51:41,107
Speaker 21: about how I could get to India. So I'm glad

2099
01:51:41,187 --> 01:51:42,947
Speaker 21: I get to leave on my own terms, with a

2100
01:51:42,947 --> 01:51:46,067
Speaker 21: little bit of dignity and go out the seg where

2101
01:51:46,067 --> 01:51:48,907
Speaker 21: I love. But I think the start of the series

2102
01:51:49,387 --> 01:51:53,827
Speaker 21: was a pretty tough time, and then going into Adelaide

2103
01:51:54,347 --> 01:51:56,947
Speaker 21: and then not being picked initially for the game, it

2104
01:51:57,027 --> 01:51:58,347
Speaker 21: was probably a sign for me to.

2105
01:51:58,347 --> 01:52:01,627
Speaker 22: Say, all right, it's time to move on. I looked

2106
01:52:01,627 --> 01:52:01,787
Speaker 22: at this.

2107
01:52:01,907 --> 01:52:03,667
Speaker 21: I did look at the schedule before the Ashes, and

2108
01:52:03,707 --> 01:52:06,747
Speaker 21: I thought twenty games and a small pierce your time

2109
01:52:06,827 --> 01:52:09,827
Speaker 21: with the six month seven month bragg. I thought, there's

2110
01:52:09,867 --> 01:52:12,867
Speaker 21: a few, like I want to say, easier test matches,

2111
01:52:12,987 --> 01:52:16,467
Speaker 21: but you know, test series that aren't scrutinized as India

2112
01:52:16,627 --> 01:52:18,107
Speaker 21: or the Ashes. And I thought it's a good time

2113
01:52:18,187 --> 01:52:20,267
Speaker 21: for a transition to happen there anyway. So I was

2114
01:52:20,307 --> 01:52:22,907
Speaker 21: always looking forward, making sure that I left what I

2115
01:52:23,027 --> 01:52:24,147
Speaker 21: felt like was the right time for.

2116
01:52:24,187 --> 01:52:26,347
Speaker 22: Me, but it was also the right time for Australian cricket.

2117
01:52:26,667 --> 01:52:28,907
Speaker 21: I was very aware of that, which is why I

2118
01:52:28,947 --> 01:52:30,707
Speaker 21: got even more frustrated when I used to get attacked

2119
01:52:30,747 --> 01:52:35,347
Speaker 21: in the media. But I think, yeah, it probably solidified

2120
01:52:35,387 --> 01:52:37,347
Speaker 21: at Adelaide Test match, even though I came back and

2121
01:52:37,387 --> 01:52:39,867
Speaker 21: scored runs and batting number five bee number four in

2122
01:52:39,867 --> 01:52:40,387
Speaker 21: the middle order.

2123
01:52:40,387 --> 01:52:42,107
Speaker 22: Five, it's nice, it's a good fine. I'm not gonna lie.

2124
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Speaker 21: I just knew whether I scored runs or not, that

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Speaker 21: Test match didn't matter. And once I knew that, I

2126
01:52:48,907 --> 01:52:50,867
Speaker 21: was like one hundred percent sure. I'm very retired.

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Speaker 2: One of the other things that usmon Kawhaja addressed at

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Speaker 2: length was his claims that he was still subject to

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Speaker 2: racial stereotypes, arguing they had re emerged at the start

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01:53:01,627 --> 01:53:03,907
Speaker 2: of the Ashes when he was scrutinized for playing golf

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01:53:04,347 --> 01:53:07,867
Speaker 2: in the build up before sustaining backs spasms in the

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Speaker 2: first test. Here are some of Usmond Khwaija's thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the racial stereotypes he believed he is still subjected to.

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Speaker 21: It's a good question. Let's just strip it all the

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01:53:22,107 --> 01:53:27,587
Speaker 21: way back. I've I've always felt a little bit different

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Speaker 21: even to now.

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 21: I'm I'm I'm a color cricketer and the Australian cricket teams,

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Speaker 21: in my opinion, the greatest nationalist, that's our best team,

2140
01:53:37,987 --> 01:53:39,227
Speaker 21: it's our nationalists.

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Speaker 22: That it's our pride and joy.

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Speaker 21: But I've also felt very different in a lot of respects,

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01:53:44,827 --> 01:53:46,867
Speaker 21: different by the way I've been treated, different for how

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01:53:46,947 --> 01:53:47,707
Speaker 21: things have happened.

2145
01:53:49,227 --> 01:53:50,267
Speaker 22: And I'll just go back.

2146
01:53:51,467 --> 01:53:53,627
Speaker 21: You know something that's been on my mind, probably from

2147
01:53:53,667 --> 01:53:55,587
Speaker 21: the start of the series that I noticed which I

2148
01:53:55,667 --> 01:53:57,747
Speaker 21: thought I kind of gone past before, and it was

2149
01:53:57,787 --> 01:54:01,627
Speaker 21: when I did my back, I hurt my back, I

2150
01:54:01,667 --> 01:54:05,907
Speaker 21: had back spasms, and it was something I couldn't control.

2151
01:54:06,827 --> 01:54:10,547
Speaker 21: And the way I don't want to say you specifically,

2152
01:54:10,627 --> 01:54:12,627
Speaker 21: but the way the media and the past players came

2153
01:54:12,667 --> 01:54:14,787
Speaker 21: out and attacked me. I mean, I could have copped

2154
01:54:14,827 --> 01:54:16,467
Speaker 21: it for two days, but I copped it for about

2155
01:54:16,507 --> 01:54:17,587
Speaker 21: five days straight.

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01:54:19,187 --> 01:54:21,707
Speaker 22: And it wasn't even about my performances. It was about

2157
01:54:21,747 --> 01:54:22,507
Speaker 22: something very personal.

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01:54:22,547 --> 01:54:26,307
Speaker 21: It was about my preparation and the way everyone came

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01:54:26,387 --> 01:54:27,707
Speaker 21: at me about my preparation.

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Speaker 22: And it was quite personal in terms of, you know,

2161
01:54:30,787 --> 01:54:33,027
Speaker 22: things like he's.

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01:54:32,947 --> 01:54:36,347
Speaker 21: Not committed to the team. You know, he was only

2163
01:54:36,427 --> 01:54:39,347
Speaker 21: worried about himself. He played this golf comp the day before.

2164
01:54:39,587 --> 01:54:43,707
Speaker 21: He's selfish. You know, he doesn't train hard enough. He

2165
01:54:43,747 --> 01:54:45,067
Speaker 21: didn't train the day before the game.

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01:54:45,107 --> 01:54:45,667
Speaker 22: He's lazy.

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01:54:45,787 --> 01:54:48,627
Speaker 21: These are the same stereotypes, the racial stereotypes I've grown.

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Speaker 22: Up with my whole life.

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Speaker 21: It's funny Rachel was reading all this. She's the one

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01:54:51,907 --> 01:54:54,667
Speaker 21: who's told me that she was blowing up. I remembering

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01:54:54,707 --> 01:54:57,187
Speaker 21: in the car next to her and I was just laughing,

2172
01:54:57,227 --> 01:54:58,787
Speaker 21: and then she got even more angry, So why are

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01:54:58,827 --> 01:55:00,707
Speaker 21: you laughing? I was like, these are the same racial

2174
01:55:00,947 --> 01:55:04,267
Speaker 21: stereotypes I've been handling my whole life. I just thought

2175
01:55:04,347 --> 01:55:06,947
Speaker 21: that the media and the old player and everyone else

2176
01:55:07,027 --> 01:55:09,827
Speaker 21: had moved past him, But we obviously haven't fully moved

2177
01:55:09,827 --> 01:55:12,707
Speaker 21: past him, because I've never seen anyone being treated like

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01:55:12,787 --> 01:55:15,667
Speaker 21: that in the Australian cricket team before. For the performances, yeah,

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Speaker 21: but not for not for the uncontrollables. The way you

2180
01:55:18,587 --> 01:55:21,787
Speaker 21: guys went at me. And you know, that was the

2181
01:55:21,867 --> 01:55:23,707
Speaker 21: thing that disappointed me the most because I thought we

2182
01:55:23,787 --> 01:55:26,667
Speaker 21: were past that, but there's still there's still a little

2183
01:55:26,707 --> 01:55:28,707
Speaker 21: bit out there which I still have to fight every

2184
01:55:28,747 --> 01:55:31,107
Speaker 21: single day, which is the frustrating thing for me. You know,

2185
01:55:31,187 --> 01:55:33,547
Speaker 21: I can count I can give you a countless number

2186
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Speaker 21: of guys who've played golf the day before and being injured.

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01:55:36,067 --> 01:55:37,747
Speaker 22: You guys haven't said a thing. No one else said

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Speaker 22: a thing.

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01:55:38,187 --> 01:55:38,427
Speaker 5: I can.

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Speaker 21: I can give you even more probably responsive guys who've

2191
01:55:42,267 --> 01:55:44,707
Speaker 21: had fifteen schooners the night before and then got it injured.

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Speaker 22: No one said a word.

2193
01:55:45,747 --> 01:55:48,067
Speaker 21: That's all right, They're just being Aussie alaricians, right, They're

2194
01:55:48,067 --> 01:55:51,947
Speaker 21: just being lads. So for me that was the frustrating part.

2195
01:55:52,547 --> 01:55:55,907
Speaker 21: But when I get injured, everyone went at my credibility

2196
01:55:56,067 --> 01:55:58,507
Speaker 21: and who I am as a person rather than Normally,

2197
01:55:58,547 --> 01:56:00,267
Speaker 21: when someone gets injured, you feel sorry for him.

2198
01:56:00,267 --> 01:56:01,427
Speaker 22: You feel a little bit of remorse.

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Speaker 21: You know, poor Josh Hazelwood or poor Nathan Lyon, he's

2200
01:56:05,827 --> 01:56:07,427
Speaker 21: got an injured But you know, we feel really sorry

2201
01:56:07,467 --> 01:56:10,507
Speaker 21: for them. We don't attack what happened to them. That

2202
01:56:10,667 --> 01:56:12,587
Speaker 21: was the thing that's probably most sad about. And that's

2203
01:56:12,587 --> 01:56:14,627
Speaker 21: what I've been dealing for a long time. I don't

2204
01:56:14,627 --> 01:56:16,787
Speaker 21: talk about a lot, but I felt like I needed

2205
01:56:16,787 --> 01:56:18,547
Speaker 21: to talk about it right here, right now.

2206
01:56:19,187 --> 01:56:20,547
Speaker 22: And I kind of know why.

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01:56:21,587 --> 01:56:24,147
Speaker 21: You know, I get nailed a lot of the times

2208
01:56:24,267 --> 01:56:27,747
Speaker 21: over the last, particularly last two years. I understand that

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01:56:27,827 --> 01:56:31,067
Speaker 21: I've talked about certain issues outside of cricket, which leads

2210
01:56:31,107 --> 01:56:33,107
Speaker 21: me exposed, which a lot of people don't like. You know,

2211
01:56:33,667 --> 01:56:35,787
Speaker 21: I still find it hard of when I say, you

2212
01:56:35,867 --> 01:56:39,067
Speaker 21: know that everyone deserves freedom and that Palestinians deserve freedom

2213
01:56:39,107 --> 01:56:41,827
Speaker 21: and equal rights. Why that is such a big issue,

2214
01:56:42,907 --> 01:56:44,947
Speaker 21: But I get it. I put myself out there. Even

2215
01:56:44,987 --> 01:56:48,467
Speaker 21: when we talk about Australian politics, and you know, we

2216
01:56:48,547 --> 01:56:53,747
Speaker 21: get all these right wing politicians that are anti immigration

2217
01:56:54,067 --> 01:56:57,267
Speaker 21: and anti Islamophobia, and I speak up against them.

2218
01:56:57,907 --> 01:57:02,827
Speaker 22: I know people don't love that, but I mean, I

2219
01:57:03,187 --> 01:57:03,547
Speaker 22: feel like.

2220
01:57:03,587 --> 01:57:07,427
Speaker 21: I have to because where these are trying to divide,

2221
01:57:08,147 --> 01:57:12,427
Speaker 21: create hate and trying to create animosity in the Australian community,

2222
01:57:12,427 --> 01:57:15,107
Speaker 21: I'm doing the exact opposite. I'm trying to bring everyone together.

2223
01:57:15,227 --> 01:57:17,987
Speaker 21: I'm trying to bring inclusivity into Australia. I'm trying to say,

2224
01:57:18,027 --> 01:57:21,587
Speaker 21: I'm the Australian Muslim from Pakistan and I'm an Australian

2225
01:57:21,627 --> 01:57:24,187
Speaker 21: cricket right and funnier who loves playing cricket, loves going

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01:57:24,227 --> 01:57:25,347
Speaker 21: out and doing everything.

2227
01:57:25,067 --> 01:57:25,467
Speaker 1: That you do.

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01:57:26,227 --> 01:57:30,387
Speaker 21: I mean, if you talk about integrating into the country,

2229
01:57:30,427 --> 01:57:32,947
Speaker 21: I mean I've got a white wife over there who

2230
01:57:33,027 --> 01:57:37,027
Speaker 21: I love and cherish, and I've got half Australian half

2231
01:57:37,107 --> 01:57:41,627
Speaker 21: Pakistani kids, and so that is very frustrating to me

2232
01:57:42,187 --> 01:57:42,787
Speaker 21: at times.

2233
01:57:43,027 --> 01:57:45,707
Speaker 22: And I know what the older generation, I know what

2234
01:57:45,867 --> 01:57:47,027
Speaker 22: people say about me.

2235
01:57:47,107 --> 01:57:49,907
Speaker 21: You know, stay in your spot, don't speak about topics

2236
01:57:49,947 --> 01:57:52,507
Speaker 21: that you don't know. You know, you're just a cricket,

2237
01:57:52,787 --> 01:57:55,387
Speaker 21: do your things whatnot. But you know, how do you

2238
01:57:55,427 --> 01:57:57,427
Speaker 21: think it makes me feel when people talk about immigration

2239
01:57:57,747 --> 01:58:00,947
Speaker 21: or they start attacking you know, Islam or Muslims for

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Speaker 21: everything that's going on. I am an immigrant in Australia.

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01:58:03,867 --> 01:58:05,987
Speaker 21: I came here at the age of five. It's personal.

2242
01:58:07,267 --> 01:58:10,147
Speaker 21: You start tacking my faith and my belief system, it

2243
01:58:10,267 --> 01:58:13,347
Speaker 21: is personal. So I'm going to speak about that because

2244
01:58:13,627 --> 01:58:15,827
Speaker 21: not many athletes do. And I understand why they don't

2245
01:58:16,147 --> 01:58:17,387
Speaker 21: because look what happened.

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01:58:17,107 --> 01:58:18,267
Speaker 22: To me at the start of this year.

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01:58:18,347 --> 01:58:20,827
Speaker 21: I've got absolutely now And it wasn't that last year

2248
01:58:20,867 --> 01:58:23,067
Speaker 21: when the Sheffield Shield stuff happened. I was one of

2249
01:58:23,107 --> 01:58:24,867
Speaker 21: the few players that was playing Sheffield Shield and you

2250
01:58:24,947 --> 01:58:26,427
Speaker 21: guys had a crack of me for missing a game.

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01:58:26,707 --> 01:58:28,907
Speaker 21: You had plenty of my teammates who were not playing.

2252
01:58:30,027 --> 01:58:33,627
Speaker 21: You didn't say a word to them. So for me, yeah,

2253
01:58:33,627 --> 01:58:36,547
Speaker 21: I've been dealing with this stuff a long time and.

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01:58:37,507 --> 01:58:40,667
Speaker 22: You know, and for me it's not I know.

2255
01:58:40,747 --> 01:58:43,107
Speaker 21: I'm up here talking about topics and people are like, okay,

2256
01:58:43,187 --> 01:58:45,747
Speaker 21: it was this year. He's playing that race card again.

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01:58:45,827 --> 01:58:48,547
Speaker 21: I get yeah, yeah he don't, but don't gas like me,

2258
01:58:48,827 --> 01:58:52,067
Speaker 21: like genuinely, I've but how many times have I helped

2259
01:58:52,107 --> 01:58:54,547
Speaker 21: you in the last two years when you've been absolutely

2260
01:58:54,707 --> 01:58:57,147
Speaker 21: nailed by security? You've been harassed by them at least

2261
01:58:57,187 --> 01:58:59,627
Speaker 21: four times. I reckon I've helped you even pert this

2262
01:58:59,747 --> 01:59:01,707
Speaker 21: year the security was on you. I was like, please

2263
01:59:01,787 --> 01:59:04,587
Speaker 21: leave him alone. This stuff happens all the time, like

2264
01:59:04,707 --> 01:59:06,147
Speaker 21: you just don't see it. I don't talk about it

2265
01:59:06,467 --> 01:59:09,627
Speaker 21: Rachel season, so we just don't talk about it. And

2266
01:59:09,747 --> 01:59:11,147
Speaker 21: then at the end of the day, I know people

2267
01:59:11,187 --> 01:59:12,867
Speaker 21: were trying to nail me and get me down, but

2268
01:59:14,187 --> 01:59:16,787
Speaker 21: you weren't part of my create so you have no

2269
01:59:16,867 --> 01:59:19,107
Speaker 21: control of my fate. And that's only God that does

2270
01:59:19,187 --> 01:59:22,627
Speaker 21: that and I respect that. So even though it hurt

2271
01:59:22,667 --> 01:59:25,627
Speaker 21: and it sucked, I hold no angst against anyone in

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01:59:25,667 --> 01:59:29,027
Speaker 21: this room or anyone who said anything to me. I'm

2273
01:59:29,027 --> 01:59:32,507
Speaker 21: a guy who who just sees it moves on, and

2274
01:59:32,587 --> 01:59:36,227
Speaker 21: I moved past. But I felt that I had to

2275
01:59:36,267 --> 01:59:38,027
Speaker 21: bring this up. I didn't want to talk about this,

2276
01:59:38,307 --> 01:59:40,347
Speaker 21: but I just want the journey for the next Usmin

2277
01:59:40,427 --> 01:59:43,147
Speaker 21: Kuwaja to be different. I want you to treat him

2278
01:59:43,987 --> 01:59:48,707
Speaker 21: or her all the same, not have racial stereotypes of

2279
01:59:48,867 --> 01:59:51,307
Speaker 21: who they might be. Treat him with the same cloak

2280
01:59:51,347 --> 01:59:55,427
Speaker 21: that you would treat any of my wholesome other cricketers

2281
01:59:55,507 --> 01:59:58,707
Speaker 21: that I play with. And so for me, coming back

2282
01:59:58,747 --> 02:00:02,947
Speaker 21: to your question, yeah, it's been a different journey and

2283
02:00:04,987 --> 02:00:08,587
Speaker 21: I noticed that more than ever, particularly at the start

2284
02:00:08,867 --> 02:00:12,187
Speaker 21: of this series and all the stuff going on, but

2285
02:00:14,187 --> 02:00:18,587
Speaker 21: I'll never stop being who I am. I'm an Australian,

2286
02:00:18,787 --> 02:00:23,187
Speaker 21: I love cricket and I'll continue to be the person,

2287
02:00:23,267 --> 02:00:26,347
Speaker 21: oh no, the best person I can be.

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Speaker 2: One of the more remarkable answers to a question at

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Speaker 2: a press conference that I can remember Osbond Kawaja bringing

2290
02:00:35,627 --> 02:00:39,227
Speaker 2: the curtain down on his test cricket career at the

2291
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Speaker 2: Sydney Cricket Ground where it all began for him fifteen

2292
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Speaker 2: years ago. That test starts tomorrow. Seven to three.

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Speaker 1: News Talks EB analyzing every view from every angle in

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Speaker 1: the Sporting World. Weekend Sport with Jason Pine all eighty

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Speaker 2: Four to three. That's us, Adam Cooper after three, Andy,

2297
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Speaker 2: we've got through the first show of the year. Congratulations

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Speaker 2: to us. What's our exersise world on us? It's not

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Speaker 2: a key we summer without catcher fire, So I've got

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Speaker 2: some getaway to see. Yes, that's the end of the show, mate,

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Speaker 2: wonderful seeing tomorrow, folks.

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