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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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Speaker 1: from News talks ed by doing up the house, sorting

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Speaker 1: Peter wolf Camp called eight hundred eighty eight US talks edb.

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Speaker 2: The house is a whole, even when it's dug, even

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Speaker 2: when the grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when.

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Speaker 3: The dog is too old to bar, and when you're

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Speaker 3: even when weave a bend, even when you're there, the

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Speaker 4: Even when you go around.

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Speaker 2: Fun the one you love your most.

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Speaker 3: Scream broken pains apeing in fund.

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Speaker 2: Locals Westball when they're gone, leaving them has even when

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Speaker 4: Well, a very good morning. Welcome along to the show.

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Speaker 4: My name is Pete wolf Camp and this is the

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Speaker 4: Resident Builder. On Sunday with me Pete worf Camp, the

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Speaker 4: Resident Builder, And it's an opportunity as we head into

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Speaker 4: the long weekend label weekend to maybe get a couple

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Speaker 4: of tasks done. I cracked into a project on Thursday,

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Speaker 4: a little bit more on Friday to a little bit

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Speaker 4: more yesterday. Will I be out there today, Yeah, probably

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Speaker 4: if the weather whole up, and then back into it

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Speaker 4: again on Monday. So if you've got some tasks that

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Speaker 4: thinking about jobs that you'd like to get done, because

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Speaker 4: we're in that sort of that zone where suddenly I'm

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Speaker 4: not wanting to bring this on, but it's going to

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Speaker 4: happen anyway. You know, Christmas is pretty much well two

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Speaker 4: months away. So if you're thinking, Gee, I want to

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Speaker 4: get the kitchen done. Gee, I want to get the bathroom, dongee,

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Speaker 4: I'd like to add on to the deck. Gosh, I'd

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Speaker 4: like to do some landscaping something like that. Well, now

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Speaker 4: might be the time to start preparing, start getting the materials,

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Speaker 4: maybe getting some trades people that you need to get

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Speaker 4: these things done, or figure just basically figuring out what

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Speaker 4: and how you can do it. A couple of things

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Speaker 4: that have been on the horizon, let's say, or been

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Speaker 4: Flat rules that passed it's final reading in Parliament just

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Speaker 4: a couple of days ago. I jumped on with Matt

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Speaker 4: and Tyler in the afternoons just to go through some

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Speaker 4: not misinterpreted the intent of the legislation because it's not

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Speaker 4: from my point of view, it's not that there are

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Speaker 4: no rules. Yeah, there are going to be slightly less

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Speaker 4: rules in terms of having to get a building consent.

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Speaker 4: Still needs to be built in accordance of the building code,

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Speaker 4: still needs to follow codes for plumbing and drainage and

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Speaker 4: not need to go and seek permission from the council.

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Speaker 4: In terms of a building consent, you still need to

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Speaker 4: inform counsels. So there's it's not just hey, you can

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Speaker 4: Undoubtedly that's going to happen, but at this stage that's

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Speaker 4: not actually the rules. So we can talk about that,

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Speaker 4: we can talk about proj that you've got underway. We

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Speaker 4: can talk about new materials, new ideas, if there's something

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Speaker 4: if that works well, give me a call. Always happy

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Speaker 4: to talk products, tools and ideas on the show. Also,

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Speaker 4: today marks the beginning of basically a week of highlighting

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Speaker 4: construction waste. This is something that I've been involved with

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Speaker 4: Resource Recovery Center what we used to call the TIP

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Speaker 4: having been in construction now for quite a while, I've

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Speaker 4: seen it firsthand, right, the tremendous amount of waste that

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Speaker 4: it's awful, right, And we contribute so much to landfill.

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Speaker 4: We are much, we are the largest contributor to landfill

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Speaker 4: are open. The number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 4: For those of you down south who took are literal

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Speaker 4: obviously two things about that. One is the house where

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Speaker 4: upwind of where that incident took place. So if you're

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Speaker 4: The Hercules flew out from Vanolpai with generators and staff

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Speaker 4: The lines are open. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 4: on this labor day or labor weekend, tomorrow's labor day

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Speaker 4: obviously six thirteen Diane, good morning, Hello.

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Speaker 5: I've just got a query, Joes. It's fibrilite sheeting on

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Speaker 4: Most likely? So, fibrilight is a phrase for a particular

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Speaker 4: for example, today, if there was something like that on

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Speaker 4: be reasonably confident that it's not doesn't have any asbestos

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Speaker 4: containing material. But I think anything that let's say pre

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Speaker 4: So the best thing to do, obviously is get it tested, right,

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Speaker 4: And what's your concern about the possibility that this might

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Speaker 5: Well, I've had that probably about fourteen years and it's

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Speaker 5: in the slightest. And on the plan it's got that

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Speaker 5: it's fiber light sheeting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be right.

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Speaker 5: And a lot of people get all alarmed about no,

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Speaker 5: it's as bestos, but I just thought, well, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I mean, and the simplest way is to

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Speaker 4: remove a piece from somewhere and send that into a laboratory,

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Speaker 4: proper finding as to whether or not it's ACM. So

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Speaker 4: it's best it's containing material.

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Speaker 6: I think they really have.

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Speaker 5: You'd have to damage it to do.

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Speaker 4: That, you would you'd need to take a piece off

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's interesting actually the time sorry, go.

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Speaker 5: Ahead, the time when I when at the time when

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Speaker 5: I got a builder's report, I was told then they

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Speaker 5: weren't sure. But as long as it didn't get damaged

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Speaker 5: as it was well well painted.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so that makes right. So I think while while

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Speaker 4: there are significant health risks to the exposure to it's

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Speaker 4: basically the fibers, right that, if I'm being really graphic,

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Speaker 4: what happens, or what potentially can happen, is when those

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Speaker 4: they will go into your lungs and cause all sorts

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Speaker 4: of horror consequences. Right, They're like little hooks and they

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Speaker 4: reason to be very very concerned if you're drilling it,

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Speaker 4: cutting it, grinding it, breaking it. Now, if you're not

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Speaker 4: doing any of those things, and in your situation, and

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Speaker 4: to be fair, I've got it at home as well,

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Speaker 4: on an old shed. It's there, it's painted. I'm not

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Speaker 4: drilling it, I'm not cutting it, I'm not breaking its off.

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Speaker 4: Is there any exposure or risk to me? No?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm very very careful. Whether I won't let anyone

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Speaker 5: go near it with a water blast or anything as well. Yep,

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Speaker 5: I don't want it damaged.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's that's sensible. So again, you know,

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Speaker 4: we we shouldn't underestimate the risks, but we also should

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Speaker 4: realize that there are you know, well known and safe

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Speaker 4: ways of managing having it there. And if at some

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Speaker 4: But let's say you decide to sell the property and

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Speaker 4: you know it's a concern that's raised on a pre

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Speaker 4: purchase inspection or something like that. Well, I think there's

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Speaker 4: a reasonable way of responding to that. And the other

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Speaker 4: I'd rather just have it removed, in which case you

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Speaker 4: should really have that removed by a licensed professional who

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Speaker 4: will do all the checks and balances, make sure that

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Speaker 4: there's no contamination, et cetera. But you know, if it was, well,

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Speaker 4: if you're asking me, should I have it removed, I'd

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Speaker 4: say no, I don't think you should. I think you

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Speaker 4: need to be able to explain to people what the

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Speaker 5: So what is the as bestos? Is there another asbestos

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Speaker 5: that people get concerned about.

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Speaker 4: Another p I think, well yes, and it's remarkable. So

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Speaker 4: asbestos as an item, right, as a it's like a

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Speaker 4: mineral type material has been used in all sorts of things,

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Speaker 4: so it's not uncommon for example for people ripping up

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Speaker 4: lino tiles for example, back in the day that that

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Speaker 4: had ACM, that lagging has ACM, That all sorts of

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Speaker 4: fire rated products have ACM asbestos containing material in them.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I was always under the impression that

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Speaker 4: it was something that kind of faded out by the

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Speaker 4: in New Zealand buildings. And I was reading through some

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Speaker 4: work safe documentation a little while ago there was there

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Speaker 4: were items coming into the country that still had asbestos

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Speaker 4: we can't be complacent about it. And if you had

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Speaker 4: a look at the news recently, unfortunately there's been an

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Speaker 4: incident where some materials that were used in the construction

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Speaker 4: of fire doors, so supplied offshore obviously comes into the country.

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Speaker 4: The sheeting or some elements of those fire doors when

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Speaker 4: they've tested them for some reason, have found that they

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Speaker 4: had ACM as well. So you know, it's not like

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Speaker 4: it's not like somewhere out there in the world people

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Speaker 4: aren't still using it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh, that's very good. But every now and then

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Speaker 5: I have wondered about you. Sure, I've got a garden,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, morning, Pete, Jeff. Hey, I've got a project where

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Speaker 8: To replace it. So I've got sort of three options.

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Speaker 4: And to be fair, that's quickest way I could describe.

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Speaker 8: Yep, that's been considered. Yeah, the problem is you get

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Speaker 4: We're not all hardwoods bleed out as much as you know.

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Speaker 4: but you've considered it, and that's fine. I don't know

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Speaker 4: right well, even if if you fixed down oh, if

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Speaker 4: there's no concern around trimming nineteen millimeters off the top

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Speaker 8: No, okay, I've got good. I've got a good two

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Speaker 8: so structurally I'm fine. Yeah, it was sort of just

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm wondering whether your simplest option is going to

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Speaker 8: Because it sticks down into that boundary choice in the

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Speaker 4: It feels like the most straightforward solution is once you've

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Speaker 4: seal that new cut, and then then you can bring

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Speaker 4: handrail back down over the top, redo your fixing. This

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Speaker 4: and this will be finished by tomorrow. A yeah, I

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Speaker 4: know the feeling all the very best. Do you take care?

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Speaker 4: See then you and you still said at six thirty five,

430
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Speaker 4: if you've got a question or a comment, eight hundred

431
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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call a squeaky.

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Speaker 1: Door or squeaky floor get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare,

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Speaker 1: the resident builder on News Talks by your.

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Speaker 4: New talksb it is six thirty eight and we are

435
00:26:22,895 --> 00:26:24,775
Speaker 4: taking your call. So if you've got a question of

436
00:26:24,855 --> 00:26:28,375
Speaker 4: building nature, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighties the number. Glenn,

437
00:26:28,415 --> 00:26:30,495
Speaker 4: good morning, Oh.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, Pete. I've been listening to you for a while.

439
00:26:33,335 --> 00:26:36,415
Speaker 9: I'm meaning to give you a call. I've got a

440
00:26:36,455 --> 00:26:40,535
Speaker 9: house here that was it was actually moved on site

441
00:26:40,535 --> 00:26:42,335
Speaker 9: in about the late nineteen forties, and it was a

442
00:26:42,375 --> 00:26:45,535
Speaker 9: clubhouse before it was chopped and a half and moved here,

443
00:26:45,815 --> 00:26:47,655
Speaker 9: So I don't actually know how old it is everything,

444
00:26:47,655 --> 00:26:51,335
Speaker 9: and it's native. I've been doing some renovations in the

445
00:26:51,415 --> 00:26:56,575
Speaker 9: last couple of years and I've probably well what the

446
00:26:56,615 --> 00:27:00,415
Speaker 9: ceiling on the inside is about two point eight high.

447
00:27:00,735 --> 00:27:02,855
Speaker 9: But if you actually walk out on the deck. The

448
00:27:02,895 --> 00:27:06,695
Speaker 9: eves are about two point five. Yes, an actual there's

449
00:27:06,695 --> 00:27:09,495
Speaker 9: a there's a well. I guess the I guess the

450
00:27:09,575 --> 00:27:16,175
Speaker 9: ceiling the true into the attic, right, and i've when

451
00:27:16,215 --> 00:27:19,775
Speaker 9: I when I did the renovations at the living end

452
00:27:19,815 --> 00:27:22,215
Speaker 9: of the house, the lounges, dyning and so on, I

453
00:27:22,255 --> 00:27:25,935
Speaker 9: managed to religne all the walls, put insulation and we

454
00:27:26,015 --> 00:27:28,655
Speaker 9: moved some doors and took out some bits of wall.

455
00:27:29,135 --> 00:27:31,895
Speaker 9: But and I love it. It's great. It's it's so warm,

456
00:27:31,975 --> 00:27:33,295
Speaker 9: can be to how it used to be. And I

457
00:27:33,935 --> 00:27:38,015
Speaker 9: used upc double glazing. I actually went for triple glazing. Wow,

458
00:27:38,535 --> 00:27:42,655
Speaker 9: and it's it's it's fantastic. But it's been bugging me

459
00:27:43,055 --> 00:27:45,735
Speaker 9: that there's actually a gap. And I noticed when they

460
00:27:45,775 --> 00:27:49,615
Speaker 9: were when the when the when the linings were going up,

461
00:27:49,695 --> 00:27:53,175
Speaker 9: there's actually a gap between the that that gap of

462
00:27:53,215 --> 00:27:56,215
Speaker 9: two hundred and fifty all the way around on the

463
00:27:56,295 --> 00:27:59,495
Speaker 9: outside walls obviously, and it's the one place you really

464
00:27:59,815 --> 00:28:03,735
Speaker 9: can't insulate because it's essentially the ease of the house.

465
00:28:05,455 --> 00:28:07,335
Speaker 9: And I had my mate who's a builder, doing the work,

466
00:28:07,415 --> 00:28:10,175
Speaker 9: and he was like, lean, he says, I don't like

467
00:28:10,255 --> 00:28:12,615
Speaker 9: this gap here. And I was using a bit of

468
00:28:13,735 --> 00:28:16,215
Speaker 9: cutoffs from the building industry just down the roads, like

469
00:28:16,295 --> 00:28:18,495
Speaker 9: some big planks that I was burning, or big big

470
00:28:18,655 --> 00:28:19,295
Speaker 9: chunks of wood.

471
00:28:19,615 --> 00:28:20,135
Speaker 10: So we use that.

472
00:28:20,215 --> 00:28:22,015
Speaker 9: I don't know if it's called back blocking to fill

473
00:28:22,055 --> 00:28:23,655
Speaker 9: it up because he was worried about the mice and

474
00:28:23,695 --> 00:28:27,175
Speaker 9: the rats getting down into the wall. So I suppose

475
00:28:27,255 --> 00:28:31,015
Speaker 9: in some way I've mitigated any heat loss through that

476
00:28:32,055 --> 00:28:36,415
Speaker 9: particular gap. But is there any way of filling can you?

477
00:28:36,695 --> 00:28:39,495
Speaker 9: Like I heard you talking about spraying a phone into

478
00:28:39,575 --> 00:28:41,615
Speaker 9: the walls over the years, and you've seen the odd

479
00:28:41,775 --> 00:28:44,495
Speaker 9: case where it has caused a bit of dapness, although

480
00:28:44,535 --> 00:28:48,775
Speaker 9: that was a while ago. Product, how would you insulate

481
00:28:48,855 --> 00:28:51,575
Speaker 9: the eaves? I'm just wondering how much heat loss I'm

482
00:28:51,695 --> 00:28:55,215
Speaker 9: losing through there, even though we've blocked it with, you know, timber.

483
00:28:56,935 --> 00:28:59,695
Speaker 9: Is it something that there is a product out there

484
00:28:59,735 --> 00:29:01,775
Speaker 9: that you can do that with to block the eaves,

485
00:29:01,815 --> 00:29:04,615
Speaker 9: because I mean, it's lovely. I'm in the winter. I

486
00:29:04,735 --> 00:29:06,415
Speaker 9: used to be rugged up like you wouldn't believe. I know,

487
00:29:06,495 --> 00:29:08,135
Speaker 9: you could breathe out and there was fog coming out

488
00:29:08,175 --> 00:29:10,455
Speaker 9: your mouth in the winter and the house and now

489
00:29:10,775 --> 00:29:14,415
Speaker 9: t shirts and shorts year round and I'm using very

490
00:29:14,495 --> 00:29:18,775
Speaker 9: little firewood like I used to, but I reckon, there's

491
00:29:18,775 --> 00:29:20,295
Speaker 9: probably a chance to make it even better.

492
00:29:20,735 --> 00:29:23,135
Speaker 4: Right, is that small performance game that you're looking for

493
00:29:23,375 --> 00:29:25,815
Speaker 4: in terms of because if you think about what heat does, right,

494
00:29:25,895 --> 00:29:29,255
Speaker 4: so typically inside a building, heat rises, and if then

495
00:29:29,415 --> 00:29:32,815
Speaker 4: as that warm air inside your room rises, it then

496
00:29:32,935 --> 00:29:36,455
Speaker 4: finds the weak spot in your thermal envelope and exits

497
00:29:36,535 --> 00:29:38,735
Speaker 4: through there. So kind of makes the one.

498
00:29:38,735 --> 00:29:39,775
Speaker 11: Week spot that left.

499
00:29:39,895 --> 00:29:40,015
Speaker 5: Right.

500
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Speaker 9: Yeah, And I look at it like I've gone to

501
00:29:44,015 --> 00:29:47,575
Speaker 9: the extra effort of showing the walls. I had a

502
00:29:47,615 --> 00:29:49,335
Speaker 9: look at the time. It was about three years ago

503
00:29:49,415 --> 00:29:52,295
Speaker 9: when we commenced doing this then, and I looked around

504
00:29:52,375 --> 00:29:56,295
Speaker 9: at the wooden double glazing, and then I looked at

505
00:29:56,375 --> 00:29:59,055
Speaker 9: the and I think the rules had just changed that

506
00:29:59,175 --> 00:30:02,495
Speaker 9: they were about toy given notice, I think twelve months

507
00:30:02,575 --> 00:30:05,255
Speaker 9: notice of having to make all your blazing. Was it

508
00:30:05,735 --> 00:30:09,175
Speaker 9: double glow azed aluminum or family broken, I can't remember.

509
00:30:09,495 --> 00:30:11,895
Speaker 9: But when I looked around, because there was a guy

510
00:30:11,975 --> 00:30:14,775
Speaker 9: here I putting windows from the states that were UPBC,

511
00:30:15,535 --> 00:30:18,855
Speaker 9: he was so much cheaper for double blazing. It was

512
00:30:19,535 --> 00:30:23,215
Speaker 9: it was it was like silly, and I just decided, look,

513
00:30:23,255 --> 00:30:25,615
Speaker 9: this is this is an easy one. And in fact,

514
00:30:25,815 --> 00:30:28,655
Speaker 9: I when we were we priced up the project, I

515
00:30:28,735 --> 00:30:32,455
Speaker 9: remember him saying something about triple glazing. So I inquire, like,

516
00:30:33,015 --> 00:30:36,175
Speaker 9: you know, what's what's the advantage is there? And to

517
00:30:36,295 --> 00:30:39,095
Speaker 9: be fair, it was a very small increase to get

518
00:30:39,175 --> 00:30:41,015
Speaker 9: triple glazing. I said, well, this is kind of like

519
00:30:41,055 --> 00:30:41,695
Speaker 9: the Forever Home.

520
00:30:41,735 --> 00:30:41,855
Speaker 5: Now.

521
00:30:41,935 --> 00:30:44,895
Speaker 9: I like the aspect and so I why not spend

522
00:30:44,975 --> 00:30:47,615
Speaker 9: the extra little bit and get a triple glazer, which

523
00:30:47,695 --> 00:30:50,375
Speaker 9: is what I've done. So everything to me is now

524
00:30:51,615 --> 00:30:54,695
Speaker 9: it ticked off, except it's just been bugging me. Am

525
00:30:54,735 --> 00:30:58,535
Speaker 9: I losing much through the ease. And to be fair,

526
00:30:58,575 --> 00:31:02,215
Speaker 9: it's this end of the the three bedrooms I did

527
00:31:02,295 --> 00:31:04,775
Speaker 9: myself years ago, back in the day when you're allowed

528
00:31:04,775 --> 00:31:09,295
Speaker 9: to the walls without having to get a permit, which yeah,

529
00:31:09,455 --> 00:31:11,415
Speaker 9: where I found they had to do this time around.

530
00:31:11,615 --> 00:31:13,335
Speaker 4: There was there was never a time when you didn't

531
00:31:13,335 --> 00:31:17,455
Speaker 4: need a permit. But I'm just I'm just thinking, just

532
00:31:17,575 --> 00:31:20,055
Speaker 4: draw me a picture. So inside the room that we're

533
00:31:20,095 --> 00:31:23,295
Speaker 4: talking about, if you stripped the wall lining off right

534
00:31:23,415 --> 00:31:27,095
Speaker 4: to the ceiling at the top of that, would you

535
00:31:27,295 --> 00:31:30,535
Speaker 4: see that cavity that is created by the eaves or

536
00:31:30,655 --> 00:31:32,295
Speaker 4: is that above that top plate.

537
00:31:34,055 --> 00:31:35,295
Speaker 9: You can see into the eaves.

538
00:31:35,735 --> 00:31:39,295
Speaker 4: Okay, so when you stripped the lining off, did you

539
00:31:39,455 --> 00:31:42,175
Speaker 4: not insulate all the way to the underside of the

540
00:31:42,215 --> 00:31:42,935
Speaker 4: top plate there?

541
00:31:44,015 --> 00:31:46,055
Speaker 9: So what we did is we put some insulation in,

542
00:31:46,175 --> 00:31:50,055
Speaker 9: but we also back blocked. First great, yep, is itocking?

543
00:31:50,135 --> 00:31:52,975
Speaker 9: He put? He put the toper in, So there's some

544
00:31:53,095 --> 00:31:57,055
Speaker 9: insulation there. I'm just wondering if it's worth insulating and

545
00:31:57,135 --> 00:31:59,055
Speaker 9: the eaves or not, or it doesn't really matter.

546
00:31:59,215 --> 00:32:03,095
Speaker 4: No, No, I think the I suppose the concept that

547
00:32:03,135 --> 00:32:04,935
Speaker 4: we're using a lot now and have done for a

548
00:32:05,015 --> 00:32:07,095
Speaker 4: number of years is the stermal envelope. So what you

549
00:32:07,215 --> 00:32:10,015
Speaker 4: want is that all of your insulation links together. So

550
00:32:10,055 --> 00:32:12,935
Speaker 4: if you've got insulation in the ceiling running across the

551
00:32:13,055 --> 00:32:17,655
Speaker 4: ceiling and to the top plate and ideally just onto

552
00:32:17,815 --> 00:32:19,895
Speaker 4: the top plate or even slightly over the top plate,

553
00:32:20,215 --> 00:32:23,175
Speaker 4: and then you've got insulation in your walls that runs

554
00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:25,775
Speaker 4: all the way to the underside of the top plate,

555
00:32:26,175 --> 00:32:31,015
Speaker 4: you've created a thermal envelope. So that space, that unconditioned

556
00:32:31,055 --> 00:32:37,335
Speaker 4: space in your eve, while it's unconditioned, it's what I suppose.

557
00:32:37,335 --> 00:32:39,655
Speaker 4: The impression that I had was that maybe there was

558
00:32:39,735 --> 00:32:41,735
Speaker 4: a space at the top of the wall that you

559
00:32:41,855 --> 00:32:44,815
Speaker 4: couldn't get any insulation in, so that was a direct

560
00:32:44,935 --> 00:32:47,375
Speaker 4: link to that unconditioned space that's.

561
00:32:47,295 --> 00:32:47,855
Speaker 11: In the EVE.

562
00:32:48,375 --> 00:32:51,735
Speaker 4: But it sounds like in your instance you've done the

563
00:32:51,775 --> 00:32:54,175
Speaker 4: back blocking, which is great in terms of the vermin control.

564
00:32:54,335 --> 00:32:57,695
Speaker 4: You've got some insulation in there. The insulation links up

565
00:32:57,775 --> 00:33:00,815
Speaker 4: with the insulation that's in your ceiling. You've created your

566
00:33:00,895 --> 00:33:03,815
Speaker 4: thermal envelope. I don't know that I'd have too many conceits.

567
00:33:05,335 --> 00:33:05,375
Speaker 5: It.

568
00:33:06,375 --> 00:33:10,575
Speaker 4: Yes, that's it. Yeah, so you know, you know, we've

569
00:33:10,615 --> 00:33:13,455
Speaker 4: got a box essentially that we've wrapped an insulation, which

570
00:33:13,535 --> 00:33:16,495
Speaker 4: is great. The jutty outpits on the outside of that

571
00:33:17,175 --> 00:33:20,615
Speaker 4: don't really matter as long as you've got that thermal envelope.

572
00:33:20,655 --> 00:33:24,615
Speaker 4: You've got that encapsulation of your living space, the space

573
00:33:24,695 --> 00:33:27,455
Speaker 4: that we're looking to contain the heat. So I think

574
00:33:27,535 --> 00:33:32,615
Speaker 4: you've done a fantastic job. I'm interested in you choosing

575
00:33:32,695 --> 00:33:35,775
Speaker 4: to go So when you did the uPVC joinery, did

576
00:33:35,855 --> 00:33:39,415
Speaker 4: you do retrofit into existing timber frames or did you

577
00:33:39,535 --> 00:33:40,855
Speaker 4: remove all of the frame.

578
00:33:41,895 --> 00:33:44,855
Speaker 9: No, it's retrofitive because you take the measurements to them

579
00:33:44,855 --> 00:33:47,335
Speaker 9: and they make it to your size and then just

580
00:33:47,895 --> 00:33:50,655
Speaker 9: bring it over on the ship and delivered the door

581
00:33:50,895 --> 00:33:55,575
Speaker 9: and it was I've never seen anything so easy watching

582
00:33:55,655 --> 00:33:59,415
Speaker 9: them do it. Yeah, they literally take out I don't

583
00:33:59,415 --> 00:34:03,455
Speaker 9: know is it is it called what's the the sessions.

584
00:34:03,015 --> 00:34:05,135
Speaker 4: And the mullions and that sort of thing. So typically

585
00:34:05,135 --> 00:34:08,575
Speaker 4: you've got a woodendden window. You've got all these different components.

586
00:34:08,615 --> 00:34:10,695
Speaker 4: You got the frame, you're the facings ascribe as the

587
00:34:10,775 --> 00:34:12,295
Speaker 4: head flashing and all the rest of it. You leave

588
00:34:12,335 --> 00:34:15,015
Speaker 4: all of that in place, You pull out your sashes

589
00:34:15,295 --> 00:34:17,815
Speaker 4: and whether it's a fixed sash or an opening one

590
00:34:17,935 --> 00:34:20,695
Speaker 4: and a million, you know, rip all of that out

591
00:34:21,055 --> 00:34:23,655
Speaker 4: and insert your uPVC in that space, just.

592
00:34:23,815 --> 00:34:29,175
Speaker 9: Literally slots them from the inside. And it was it

593
00:34:29,335 --> 00:34:32,375
Speaker 9: was so fun. It was you watch them do it

594
00:34:32,495 --> 00:34:35,455
Speaker 9: and it really well. One I don't can remember how

595
00:34:35,455 --> 00:34:37,095
Speaker 9: long it took them to clean out the timber on

596
00:34:37,095 --> 00:34:40,295
Speaker 9: the out before they took the took the extra window out,

597
00:34:40,815 --> 00:34:46,535
Speaker 9: but inserting the new window literally takes minutes. It's and

598
00:34:46,855 --> 00:34:50,175
Speaker 9: the heavy bug is at triple blazing. So yeah, it was,

599
00:34:50,295 --> 00:34:53,055
Speaker 9: but it was amazing and watching them work and finish

600
00:34:53,135 --> 00:34:55,495
Speaker 9: it off, it's it's the fastest thing.

601
00:34:55,735 --> 00:34:57,895
Speaker 4: You do know that there are local companies that do

602
00:34:58,335 --> 00:35:00,015
Speaker 4: high performance U PVC.

603
00:35:00,255 --> 00:35:02,935
Speaker 9: And yeah, but this was this was three years ago.

604
00:35:03,135 --> 00:35:05,175
Speaker 9: I had it done right, and at the time I

605
00:35:05,255 --> 00:35:11,455
Speaker 9: couldn't find anyone that did UPBC and to the quality

606
00:35:11,535 --> 00:35:14,735
Speaker 9: that I could find here when I shopped around. And

607
00:35:14,855 --> 00:35:17,255
Speaker 9: it's got comes with built in fly screens and lowing

608
00:35:17,375 --> 00:35:20,295
Speaker 9: glass and argun filled. So now when I live in

609
00:35:20,375 --> 00:35:22,975
Speaker 9: a semi rural area, you know, every window has got

610
00:35:23,055 --> 00:35:26,135
Speaker 9: fly screens on it in the summer up instead of

611
00:35:26,175 --> 00:35:28,495
Speaker 9: the sheep farms, flies coming over to me. Well, they

612
00:35:28,535 --> 00:35:32,015
Speaker 9: still do, they just can't get in and it's it's

613
00:35:32,255 --> 00:35:35,215
Speaker 9: it's lovely. And I was surprised at the time when

614
00:35:35,215 --> 00:35:36,695
Speaker 9: I shopped around because I actually was going to go

615
00:35:36,815 --> 00:35:38,975
Speaker 9: for the timber, just to keep that same look. I

616
00:35:39,055 --> 00:35:41,775
Speaker 9: think it's called d g U and they do some

617
00:35:42,015 --> 00:35:46,215
Speaker 9: great work, but it was just so expensive by comparison.

618
00:35:47,135 --> 00:35:49,215
Speaker 9: Most of us have to have to operate on a budget.

619
00:35:49,455 --> 00:35:52,215
Speaker 9: And so when I looked at and then I looked

620
00:35:52,215 --> 00:35:55,615
Speaker 9: at the what do you call it the aluminium at

621
00:35:55,655 --> 00:35:58,615
Speaker 9: the time, it was it was just too expensive and

622
00:35:58,775 --> 00:36:02,895
Speaker 9: the is it the insulative value wasn't anywhere there was

623
00:36:03,775 --> 00:36:06,695
Speaker 9: That's that it wasn't as good. Although I think it's

624
00:36:06,695 --> 00:36:08,655
Speaker 9: got better. They build a new factory out there Orton

625
00:36:08,655 --> 00:36:12,095
Speaker 9: where they make a whole lot of them now. But yeah,

626
00:36:12,175 --> 00:36:13,935
Speaker 9: at the time, as I say, it was just the

627
00:36:14,055 --> 00:36:16,375
Speaker 9: best way to go that I could see financially and

628
00:36:16,575 --> 00:36:19,935
Speaker 9: to get really really good performance. And it's nice quality

629
00:36:20,095 --> 00:36:22,935
Speaker 9: stuff as well. Funnily enough, you can get it in

630
00:36:23,015 --> 00:36:25,655
Speaker 9: all sorts of colors. And I chose I chose white

631
00:36:25,695 --> 00:36:27,895
Speaker 9: because when I first started renovating the place, they used

632
00:36:27,895 --> 00:36:29,655
Speaker 9: to do a different color on the inside of the

633
00:36:30,655 --> 00:36:33,015
Speaker 9: versus the out, and when it kind of came down

634
00:36:33,255 --> 00:36:35,415
Speaker 9: and to do touch up was like, oh, this is

635
00:36:35,455 --> 00:36:36,975
Speaker 9: a bit of a sod trying to make sure I

636
00:36:37,015 --> 00:36:40,855
Speaker 9: get the lines right where they match. And so doing

637
00:36:40,895 --> 00:36:43,335
Speaker 9: white means that's as stretches. You don't have to worry

638
00:36:43,335 --> 00:36:45,655
Speaker 9: about the color coming through from underneath. It's just white

639
00:36:45,695 --> 00:36:46,455
Speaker 9: all the way around.

640
00:36:46,495 --> 00:36:48,375
Speaker 4: It's all the way through. Brilliant.

641
00:36:49,455 --> 00:36:52,575
Speaker 9: So much warmer Mans. Good listening to you over the years,

642
00:36:52,695 --> 00:36:53,135
Speaker 9: lovely to.

643
00:36:53,135 --> 00:36:53,535
Speaker 11: Talk with you.

644
00:36:53,695 --> 00:36:58,055
Speaker 4: Really appreciate the insight and and you know with that

645
00:36:58,215 --> 00:37:00,855
Speaker 4: wanting to teach you the SACKI I think what's really

646
00:37:00,975 --> 00:37:03,815
Speaker 4: encouraging for me is to listen to someone like yourself

647
00:37:03,855 --> 00:37:08,215
Speaker 4: who spend so much to research time, researching, thinking about

648
00:37:08,255 --> 00:37:12,215
Speaker 4: it and making really good and formed decisions and to

649
00:37:12,375 --> 00:37:15,935
Speaker 4: hear that you've appreciated the benefit of it. Right, So warm, dry,

650
00:37:15,975 --> 00:37:19,015
Speaker 4: comfortable is what we're after. It sounds awesome. Really appreciate

651
00:37:19,055 --> 00:37:19,895
Speaker 4: you call T.

652
00:37:20,055 --> 00:37:22,215
Speaker 9: Shirt and shorts in the middle of the winter and sounds.

653
00:37:21,935 --> 00:37:24,495
Speaker 4: Good to me. Take care all the best to you, Glenn,

654
00:37:24,575 --> 00:37:27,575
Speaker 4: take care interesting too, I just think about that. In

655
00:37:27,695 --> 00:37:31,575
Speaker 4: terms of uPVC, there are local firms that are doing

656
00:37:31,655 --> 00:37:33,655
Speaker 4: it now. So if you want to find out more

657
00:37:33,695 --> 00:37:35,815
Speaker 4: about that, have a look at the Stark website. That's

658
00:37:36,015 --> 00:37:40,415
Speaker 4: st Ark. The Stark Website's got a lot of detail

659
00:37:40,495 --> 00:37:43,095
Speaker 4: on that as well. Six point fifty at News TALKSB,

660
00:37:43,175 --> 00:37:46,015
Speaker 4: we're taking your calls. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

661
00:37:46,095 --> 00:37:46,695
Speaker 4: the number.

662
00:37:47,095 --> 00:37:50,935
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right the resident

663
00:37:51,015 --> 00:37:54,095
Speaker 1: builder with Peter WOLFCAF call, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

664
00:37:54,135 --> 00:37:55,255
Speaker 1: eighty Youth Talk ZB.

665
00:37:57,095 --> 00:37:59,095
Speaker 4: Yeah A News talks HEB coming up News time top

666
00:37:59,135 --> 00:38:02,175
Speaker 4: of the are at seven o'clock. We might have time

667
00:38:02,215 --> 00:38:05,295
Speaker 4: for another quick call before then if you would like

668
00:38:05,415 --> 00:38:07,735
Speaker 4: to call the numbers eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

669
00:38:07,815 --> 00:38:12,255
Speaker 4: Couple of texts coming through. I'll just read this one

670
00:38:12,295 --> 00:38:14,415
Speaker 4: out as it's come in. Good luck with the maintenance

671
00:38:14,455 --> 00:38:16,935
Speaker 4: on that joinery. U PVC will not last. Give it

672
00:38:17,015 --> 00:38:19,895
Speaker 4: ten years and you'll have major issues, says the texter

673
00:38:20,855 --> 00:38:24,935
Speaker 4: unnamed basically wrong. All right, so I can refute that

674
00:38:26,015 --> 00:38:29,615
Speaker 4: I've spent quite a bit of time with the Stark people,

675
00:38:29,695 --> 00:38:34,895
Speaker 4: who do you PVC joinery durability is far far longer

676
00:38:34,975 --> 00:38:37,135
Speaker 4: than that. I think that's one of those old myths

677
00:38:37,215 --> 00:38:42,175
Speaker 4: that floats around around some of the early types of

678
00:38:42,575 --> 00:38:48,135
Speaker 4: PVC joinery systems. But the uPVC performs very differently to that,

679
00:38:48,415 --> 00:38:53,855
Speaker 4: so durability wise, no issues whatsoever. Pete roughly how much

680
00:38:53,895 --> 00:38:57,415
Speaker 4: cheaper is retrofitting double glazed windows than actually getting new ones?

681
00:38:58,495 --> 00:39:02,655
Speaker 4: Really good question. I think if you take you know,

682
00:39:02,695 --> 00:39:04,695
Speaker 4: if you were to take a house loot of joinery

683
00:39:04,855 --> 00:39:07,695
Speaker 4: out and replace the joint and the glazing at the

684
00:39:07,735 --> 00:39:13,735
Speaker 4: same time, if the frames themselves, because windows are two parts, right,

685
00:39:14,055 --> 00:39:16,935
Speaker 4: So windows are the frame and the individual sashes and

686
00:39:17,015 --> 00:39:19,935
Speaker 4: all of those components, and the glass or the glazing.

687
00:39:20,095 --> 00:39:24,895
Speaker 4: So frame plus glazing equals window. So if you throw

688
00:39:25,135 --> 00:39:28,135
Speaker 4: everything out and replace it, that's going to be a

689
00:39:28,215 --> 00:39:32,495
Speaker 4: fairly it's a disruptive process, and it's time consuming one

690
00:39:33,335 --> 00:39:36,335
Speaker 4: and to some degree it can be quite wasteful. Often

691
00:39:36,415 --> 00:39:39,175
Speaker 4: there's not actually a problem with the frame, with the

692
00:39:39,295 --> 00:39:42,495
Speaker 4: window itself, with the window frame, just with the fact

693
00:39:42,495 --> 00:39:44,455
Speaker 4: that it's got some single glazing in it, which we

694
00:39:44,615 --> 00:39:48,495
Speaker 4: know loses heat or gains heat a lot more than

695
00:39:48,535 --> 00:39:54,295
Speaker 4: double glazing does. So, but in the joinery itself, the

696
00:39:54,495 --> 00:39:57,095
Speaker 4: timber or the aluminium is in very poor condition, then

697
00:39:57,135 --> 00:40:00,335
Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense to keep poor conditioned frames and

698
00:40:00,495 --> 00:40:03,975
Speaker 4: put in good, new, high performance double glazing. So in

699
00:40:04,015 --> 00:40:05,975
Speaker 4: that case you might be sort of not forced into it,

700
00:40:06,055 --> 00:40:09,655
Speaker 4: but makes more sense. In terms of cheap I think

701
00:40:09,695 --> 00:40:13,055
Speaker 4: you've just got to go through and price everything, just

702
00:40:13,335 --> 00:40:17,375
Speaker 4: price it up. But if it's poor condition joinery, then

703
00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:20,535
Speaker 4: I think replacing it is the way to go. And

704
00:40:20,655 --> 00:40:24,295
Speaker 4: that process that Glenn was describing where the timber frames

705
00:40:24,335 --> 00:40:26,575
Speaker 4: were actually in really good condition and they were able

706
00:40:26,655 --> 00:40:31,815
Speaker 4: to retrofit a uPVC frame into that is actually it

707
00:40:31,935 --> 00:40:34,895
Speaker 4: is quick. It's surprisingly quick, and of course the performance

708
00:40:34,975 --> 00:40:37,495
Speaker 4: games are there, and so what you end up with

709
00:40:37,695 --> 00:40:40,415
Speaker 4: is the new frames or the new sashes and the

710
00:40:40,535 --> 00:40:43,575
Speaker 4: insert you get the glazing, the double glazing in it.

711
00:40:44,455 --> 00:40:46,495
Speaker 4: You get all the new hardware, and you get something

712
00:40:46,535 --> 00:40:50,615
Speaker 4: that's effectively low maintenance because there's no painting of those

713
00:40:50,695 --> 00:40:54,175
Speaker 4: frames either. So it is a really really good option.

714
00:40:54,295 --> 00:40:56,775
Speaker 4: So we'll talk about that. Someone's asked if there's any

715
00:40:56,895 --> 00:41:00,335
Speaker 4: update on the story from last week about a woman

716
00:41:00,375 --> 00:41:02,375
Speaker 4: who called us who'd spent sort of one hundred grand

717
00:41:02,695 --> 00:41:05,255
Speaker 4: trying to sort out to be blunt a dodgy builder.

718
00:41:05,775 --> 00:41:10,135
Speaker 4: Not at the stage, but stay posted on that and

719
00:41:10,295 --> 00:41:13,375
Speaker 4: Sandy not this weekend. I couldn't get to them, So

720
00:41:13,495 --> 00:41:15,655
Speaker 4: this is the nail Boxers something again, but it will

721
00:41:15,735 --> 00:41:18,015
Speaker 4: definitely be next weekend. Right back after the news at

722
00:41:18,055 --> 00:41:18,735
Speaker 4: seven the.

723
00:41:18,775 --> 00:41:22,535
Speaker 1: Measure twice God was but maybe call Pete first. Vie

724
00:41:22,615 --> 00:41:25,335
Speaker 1: Work gave the Resident Builder News Talk said.

725
00:41:25,175 --> 00:41:27,575
Speaker 4: B right, the O lines are open. We're into it.

726
00:41:27,895 --> 00:41:30,455
Speaker 4: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

727
00:41:30,495 --> 00:41:32,895
Speaker 4: call if you've got a project that you're thinking about

728
00:41:32,935 --> 00:41:35,775
Speaker 4: getting into. Perhaps you've got a project that you're into

729
00:41:36,015 --> 00:41:39,775
Speaker 4: and to be fair, the wheels have fallen off and yeah, yeah,

730
00:41:39,935 --> 00:41:43,295
Speaker 4: you're plummeting to your doom. And that happens sometimes on projects.

731
00:41:43,335 --> 00:41:47,575
Speaker 4: They don't always go well and kind of a plan

732
00:41:47,775 --> 00:41:49,735
Speaker 4: B is required. So if you want some help with

733
00:41:49,895 --> 00:41:53,095
Speaker 4: Plan B, we can talk about that. All these new products,

734
00:41:53,175 --> 00:41:56,295
Speaker 4: new ideas, innovation. And I have to say, again, just

735
00:41:56,375 --> 00:41:59,655
Speaker 4: going back to Glenn's comments before the news, tremendous to

736
00:41:59,735 --> 00:42:05,375
Speaker 4: hear of someone who's obviously had a well considered renovation,

737
00:42:05,935 --> 00:42:08,415
Speaker 4: understand stands exactly what it is that they want the

738
00:42:08,575 --> 00:42:11,495
Speaker 4: outcomes to be. In terms of this as an old house,

739
00:42:12,255 --> 00:42:15,775
Speaker 4: we know with older homes that they're not particularly well instulated,

740
00:42:15,855 --> 00:42:18,655
Speaker 4: they're not terribly draft proof, et cetera, et cetera, and

741
00:42:18,815 --> 00:42:21,175
Speaker 4: so if you put heat in them in winter, it

742
00:42:21,375 --> 00:42:24,335
Speaker 4: just escapes through the building fabric and we end it

743
00:42:24,495 --> 00:42:27,335
Speaker 4: still in a reasonably cold place. Or if it is warm,

744
00:42:27,415 --> 00:42:30,335
Speaker 4: we've spent an enormous amount of energy creating that warmth,

745
00:42:30,415 --> 00:42:32,535
Speaker 4: and most of it's just dissipating through the walls and

746
00:42:32,615 --> 00:42:37,135
Speaker 4: ceilings and windows. So that's it is, from my point

747
00:42:37,135 --> 00:42:40,055
Speaker 4: of view, kind of quite reassuring to hear that in

748
00:42:40,175 --> 00:42:42,575
Speaker 4: many cases with these old houses, with the right care

749
00:42:42,655 --> 00:42:46,095
Speaker 4: and attention, you can create warm, dry, comfortable from it.

750
00:42:46,255 --> 00:42:47,615
Speaker 4: So that was great.

751
00:42:47,735 --> 00:42:47,895
Speaker 9: Right.

752
00:42:48,055 --> 00:42:49,935
Speaker 4: If you've got a project though that you want to

753
00:42:49,975 --> 00:42:53,295
Speaker 4: talk about, or a task that is underway with you

754
00:42:53,855 --> 00:42:56,695
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number call

755
00:42:56,975 --> 00:43:00,615
Speaker 4: text is up and running is well? Certainly a lot

756
00:43:00,615 --> 00:43:05,535
Speaker 4: of texts about the old uPVC. Still I'm dubious about

757
00:43:05,535 --> 00:43:07,655
Speaker 4: the uPVC. Can you point me to someone in New

758
00:43:07,735 --> 00:43:10,135
Speaker 4: Zealand who's had windows that are, say, thirty years old,

759
00:43:10,215 --> 00:43:14,495
Speaker 4: that are in good condition? I certainly can for aluminium,

760
00:43:14,655 --> 00:43:17,975
Speaker 4: and I'm not just seeing the aluminium. Certainly, I've seen

761
00:43:18,015 --> 00:43:20,975
Speaker 4: plenty of aluminium jewelery that's started to come apart in

762
00:43:21,055 --> 00:43:23,175
Speaker 4: the joins and that sort of thing and causing leaking

763
00:43:23,215 --> 00:43:28,135
Speaker 4: in that's sense, and that I've seen. Just trying to think,

764
00:43:28,535 --> 00:43:31,095
Speaker 4: I think I first put in I was working on

765
00:43:31,175 --> 00:43:34,015
Speaker 4: a project where someone had imported some new PVC that

766
00:43:34,135 --> 00:43:37,295
Speaker 4: would have to have been more than twenty years ago.

767
00:43:42,415 --> 00:43:45,295
Speaker 4: That's still there and still in good condition. So I'll

768
00:43:45,335 --> 00:43:47,295
Speaker 4: do some research. I'm sure I can find it. Eight

769
00:43:47,415 --> 00:43:55,895
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty. Thanks Kevin for your text as well.

770
00:43:55,975 --> 00:43:57,735
Speaker 4: We'll get to that in a minute, right, Oh, if

771
00:43:57,775 --> 00:44:00,295
Speaker 4: you've got a question, it is eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

772
00:44:00,335 --> 00:44:02,815
Speaker 4: The other thing that we could talk about now that

773
00:44:03,335 --> 00:44:05,495
Speaker 4: something that we've talked about for a while. We've done

774
00:44:05,495 --> 00:44:07,735
Speaker 4: a couple of interviews with the minister involved with this,

775
00:44:07,895 --> 00:44:10,015
Speaker 4: which is of course the honorable Chris Penk who's come

776
00:44:10,055 --> 00:44:12,575
Speaker 4: into the studio a couple of times. Is the Granny

777
00:44:12,615 --> 00:44:16,455
Speaker 4: flat legislation has come in? I would be really interested

778
00:44:16,535 --> 00:44:19,975
Speaker 4: to know whether now that it is it's well, the

779
00:44:20,135 --> 00:44:22,615
Speaker 4: law has been passed. I don't think it'll be implemented

780
00:44:22,695 --> 00:44:25,215
Speaker 4: till early next year, as in, I don't think you

781
00:44:25,295 --> 00:44:28,735
Speaker 4: can go out on You can't go down to your

782
00:44:28,775 --> 00:44:31,495
Speaker 4: hardware store buy some timber and start framing one up tomorrow.

783
00:44:32,615 --> 00:44:35,815
Speaker 4: But it is coming. So will now that it's there

784
00:44:36,015 --> 00:44:38,935
Speaker 4: and you may not necessarily require a building consent for

785
00:44:39,015 --> 00:44:41,895
Speaker 4: that type of work? Would you are you going to

786
00:44:41,975 --> 00:44:44,455
Speaker 4: be looking at this? Has this changed? Has this moved

787
00:44:44,495 --> 00:44:48,015
Speaker 4: the needle? Are you thinking great a project that perhaps

788
00:44:48,335 --> 00:44:51,415
Speaker 4: I wasn't going to do because of the compliance issues

789
00:44:51,455 --> 00:44:55,215
Speaker 4: around getting a building consent, et cetera, et cetera. You know,

790
00:44:55,495 --> 00:44:58,375
Speaker 4: can I can I get stuck into that? Will you

791
00:44:58,455 --> 00:45:01,575
Speaker 4: get stuck into this? And in which parts of the

792
00:45:01,615 --> 00:45:04,015
Speaker 4: country and what sort of environment will you be building?

793
00:45:04,295 --> 00:45:07,815
Speaker 4: And for what purpose? Interested in that too? So it

794
00:45:07,935 --> 00:45:10,695
Speaker 4: is underway, and apparently there are also new regulations that

795
00:45:10,815 --> 00:45:14,815
Speaker 4: have come into play around proximity to boundary as well.

796
00:45:14,895 --> 00:45:17,535
Speaker 4: This is for sort of smaller items like sheds, which

797
00:45:17,615 --> 00:45:20,535
Speaker 4: typically always and we've talked about this for years on

798
00:45:20,575 --> 00:45:23,015
Speaker 4: the show. If you're putting up a garden shed, it's

799
00:45:23,015 --> 00:45:25,495
Speaker 4: got to be the height of the shed away from

800
00:45:25,575 --> 00:45:29,535
Speaker 4: the boundary, was the general rule. That's now gone. So

801
00:45:29,535 --> 00:45:33,255
Speaker 4: if it's ten square meters or less, it can be

802
00:45:33,455 --> 00:45:38,575
Speaker 4: right up against the boundary. There's a couple of problems

803
00:45:38,615 --> 00:45:41,735
Speaker 4: with that, I have to say, in terms of maintenance.

804
00:45:41,815 --> 00:45:43,975
Speaker 4: So if you put a garden shed. Let's say you

805
00:45:44,015 --> 00:45:45,855
Speaker 4: do a garden shed and it's got some plywood on

806
00:45:45,895 --> 00:45:48,935
Speaker 4: the outside, and you put it hard up against the boundary,

807
00:45:49,015 --> 00:45:50,735
Speaker 4: how are you ever going to get in there to

808
00:45:50,895 --> 00:45:53,175
Speaker 4: clean it, or maintain it, or give it another coat

809
00:45:53,215 --> 00:45:55,615
Speaker 4: of paint. So there's got to be a practicality with

810
00:45:55,735 --> 00:45:59,095
Speaker 4: these things too. If you are jamming anything hard up

811
00:45:59,095 --> 00:46:01,095
Speaker 4: against the boundary, how do you do the maintenance? Oh,

812
00:46:01,175 --> 00:46:03,695
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty will take your calls on

813
00:46:03,895 --> 00:46:07,575
Speaker 4: all things building, construction and legislation. And in the next hour,

814
00:46:08,575 --> 00:46:11,415
Speaker 4: looking forward to a chat with doctor Terry and Berry

815
00:46:12,455 --> 00:46:17,415
Speaker 4: heavily involved in the whole construction waste issues. And when

816
00:46:17,455 --> 00:46:20,135
Speaker 4: I say issues, we've got an issue right in terms

817
00:46:20,175 --> 00:46:23,695
Speaker 4: of how much waste is generated by the construction sector

818
00:46:23,815 --> 00:46:26,615
Speaker 4: and a lot of this material just simply going to landfill,

819
00:46:27,135 --> 00:46:30,495
Speaker 4: where I think there are some solutions for reducing the landfill.

820
00:46:30,775 --> 00:46:33,135
Speaker 4: And before I get texts from people going it's all

821
00:46:33,215 --> 00:46:35,935
Speaker 4: woke nonsense and all the rest of it, think about

822
00:46:35,935 --> 00:46:39,495
Speaker 4: the people that have to live next to increasing space

823
00:46:39,615 --> 00:46:42,495
Speaker 4: given up for landfill because we can't control our waste.

824
00:46:42,495 --> 00:46:43,975
Speaker 4: And there's a big story in the paper at the

825
00:46:44,015 --> 00:46:49,135
Speaker 4: moment about family near the in dairy Flat opposing the

826
00:46:49,255 --> 00:46:52,815
Speaker 4: extension of the current landfill that's there. And certainly if

827
00:46:52,895 --> 00:46:55,655
Speaker 4: you happen to be living somewhere and there's a notification

828
00:46:55,735 --> 00:46:57,615
Speaker 4: of the paper, Oh, look, such and such a company

829
00:46:57,695 --> 00:47:01,215
Speaker 4: wants to start a landfill over the back fence, chances

830
00:47:01,295 --> 00:47:04,175
Speaker 4: are you'll object to that, right. So if we can

831
00:47:04,295 --> 00:47:07,615
Speaker 4: reduce the need to send materials a landfill, we also

832
00:47:08,135 --> 00:47:10,495
Speaker 4: that's good for the community. I think, Oh eight one

833
00:47:10,535 --> 00:47:13,495
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call and adult,

834
00:47:13,535 --> 00:47:17,975
Speaker 4: good morning to you, hy do the good morning, good

835
00:47:18,015 --> 00:47:20,175
Speaker 4: morning very well? How can I help.

836
00:47:21,695 --> 00:47:21,815
Speaker 8: Hi?

837
00:47:22,495 --> 00:47:25,535
Speaker 11: I got an aluminium window. It's on a two story

838
00:47:25,615 --> 00:47:30,215
Speaker 11: building on the upstairs and the window frame, I guess

839
00:47:30,415 --> 00:47:35,735
Speaker 11: the wooden inside the four square bogs yes, And on

840
00:47:35,855 --> 00:47:39,895
Speaker 11: the bottom bottom plate it got I think it's a

841
00:47:40,015 --> 00:47:42,495
Speaker 11: water damage. It's and it's swallowen up. So I just

842
00:47:42,575 --> 00:47:45,295
Speaker 11: want treame whether it's possible to replace only doors one

843
00:47:45,455 --> 00:47:47,775
Speaker 11: or should they need to replace the and their window.

844
00:47:49,335 --> 00:47:53,215
Speaker 4: You can replace effectively. It's it's the liner, right, what

845
00:47:53,335 --> 00:47:55,695
Speaker 4: we call the liner. Do you know whether it's timber

846
00:47:55,895 --> 00:48:00,695
Speaker 4: or md IF. I think it's empty, okay, yep. And

847
00:48:00,975 --> 00:48:03,055
Speaker 4: and you know one of the challenges with md IF,

848
00:48:03,215 --> 00:48:06,175
Speaker 4: and it's not so common these days to have MDF liners,

849
00:48:06,175 --> 00:48:10,135
Speaker 4: but at a certain time they were quite common, is

850
00:48:10,215 --> 00:48:12,655
Speaker 4: once you get moisture in them, it expands, right, and

851
00:48:13,215 --> 00:48:18,295
Speaker 4: that's what you're probably seeing. So two parts that the

852
00:48:18,415 --> 00:48:21,695
Speaker 4: really challenging part to it is when those frames were

853
00:48:21,775 --> 00:48:25,455
Speaker 4: made in the factory, there's a rebate. There's a little

854
00:48:25,535 --> 00:48:29,575
Speaker 4: channel in the aluminum frame itself that the liner slots

855
00:48:29,615 --> 00:48:33,855
Speaker 4: into and then guys will use staples to fasten it through.

856
00:48:33,975 --> 00:48:36,495
Speaker 4: So they staple through the aluminum into the timber or

857
00:48:36,615 --> 00:48:39,695
Speaker 4: MDF and that holds them in place. Now that is

858
00:48:40,495 --> 00:48:43,695
Speaker 4: that's not visible, So that's on the outside perimeter of

859
00:48:43,775 --> 00:48:46,855
Speaker 4: the window. So when you're trying to remove that timber

860
00:48:46,935 --> 00:48:51,095
Speaker 4: from the inside, you end up not being able to

861
00:48:51,175 --> 00:48:54,215
Speaker 4: get to this. To those fasteners. You can kind of

862
00:48:54,375 --> 00:48:56,495
Speaker 4: pick away at it, but you've still got this issue.

863
00:48:56,535 --> 00:49:00,935
Speaker 4: And also, if you're doing more than you know, a

864
00:49:01,135 --> 00:49:05,335
Speaker 4: small ish portion of it, it's that liner that's holding

865
00:49:05,415 --> 00:49:10,495
Speaker 4: your window in right, So in some cases it might

866
00:49:10,575 --> 00:49:12,975
Speaker 4: actually it feels like it's a bigger job, but in

867
00:49:13,095 --> 00:49:17,175
Speaker 4: some instances it's actually quicker too. Do you know whether

868
00:49:17,215 --> 00:49:20,215
Speaker 4: it's got architraves or a rebate for the jib on

869
00:49:20,335 --> 00:49:22,175
Speaker 4: the inside when you're standing on the inside, is there

870
00:49:22,175 --> 00:49:25,575
Speaker 4: an architrave around the window? There is no, okay, so

871
00:49:25,695 --> 00:49:28,895
Speaker 4: the jib goes into there as well. So you're going

872
00:49:28,975 --> 00:49:33,415
Speaker 4: to have to cut through all of that jib. And again,

873
00:49:33,495 --> 00:49:35,815
Speaker 4: if it was if I was looking at it, i'd

874
00:49:35,855 --> 00:49:38,175
Speaker 4: look at it and go can I cut through the jib,

875
00:49:38,655 --> 00:49:42,535
Speaker 4: pull the nails out, simply pop the window out, depending

876
00:49:42,615 --> 00:49:45,415
Speaker 4: on how it's fastened on the outside and what the

877
00:49:45,535 --> 00:49:48,015
Speaker 4: celant is around the outside, pop it out. Then I

878
00:49:48,055 --> 00:49:51,215
Speaker 4: can lay it down. I can pull all the staples out,

879
00:49:51,575 --> 00:49:53,775
Speaker 4: put in a new liner, put the window back in,

880
00:49:54,295 --> 00:49:56,935
Speaker 4: and then if you want to keep it looking consistent,

881
00:49:57,015 --> 00:49:59,255
Speaker 4: you'd have to cut back the jib to halfway on

882
00:49:59,335 --> 00:50:02,295
Speaker 4: the stud, slide new pieces of jib into the rebate,

883
00:50:03,575 --> 00:50:05,775
Speaker 4: or you go, we'll look in this window. I'm just

884
00:50:05,815 --> 00:50:07,735
Speaker 4: going to add architrave to it. Then I don't have

885
00:50:07,815 --> 00:50:10,975
Speaker 4: to worry about that. So yeah, I'm sorry. It sounds

886
00:50:11,055 --> 00:50:13,615
Speaker 4: like what looks like a little job has become a

887
00:50:13,695 --> 00:50:14,655
Speaker 4: slightly bigger job.

888
00:50:15,855 --> 00:50:18,455
Speaker 11: And one more thing, is it common for the aluminium

889
00:50:18,535 --> 00:50:20,815
Speaker 11: windows to have those kinds of team because I got

890
00:50:20,815 --> 00:50:23,855
Speaker 11: a couple of other windows, but it's not that bad.

891
00:50:23,935 --> 00:50:28,335
Speaker 11: But I can see kind of on the bottom corner. Yes, Moist,

892
00:50:30,015 --> 00:50:30,455
Speaker 11: I think.

893
00:50:30,335 --> 00:50:33,375
Speaker 4: There's there's possibly two things going on, or both things

894
00:50:33,455 --> 00:50:36,455
Speaker 4: going on, one or either or both. One is you

895
00:50:36,575 --> 00:50:39,735
Speaker 4: will get most likely you'll have condensation on the inside

896
00:50:39,735 --> 00:50:43,935
Speaker 4: of the window, and that's partly a result from having

897
00:50:44,335 --> 00:50:48,695
Speaker 4: standard aluminium joinery, because you're even with good quality glazing,

898
00:50:48,775 --> 00:50:52,255
Speaker 4: you'll still get heat transferred through there, and that's you'll

899
00:50:52,255 --> 00:50:55,775
Speaker 4: get condensation on the inside. So that condensation if it's

900
00:50:55,855 --> 00:50:58,735
Speaker 4: not wiped up every morning, and I don't think anyone

901
00:50:58,815 --> 00:51:01,335
Speaker 4: expects anyone to do it every morning that will will

902
00:51:01,415 --> 00:51:03,655
Speaker 4: stay there and the moisture will go into the liner,

903
00:51:04,015 --> 00:51:06,935
Speaker 4: and especially if it's an MDF lineer, you'll get that

904
00:51:07,095 --> 00:51:09,695
Speaker 4: swelling as a result of the moisture. The other thing

905
00:51:09,855 --> 00:51:12,615
Speaker 4: might be you might have that You may also have

906
00:51:13,215 --> 00:51:15,135
Speaker 4: let's say, if the drainage holes that are on the

907
00:51:15,255 --> 00:51:19,375
Speaker 4: inside of the aluminum extrusion are not working properly, then

908
00:51:19,655 --> 00:51:23,455
Speaker 4: you might get some leaking there. You may also if

909
00:51:23,535 --> 00:51:27,935
Speaker 4: the miter on the window, if it's an opening window,

910
00:51:28,615 --> 00:51:31,975
Speaker 4: if that has broken the seal, you might get water

911
00:51:32,055 --> 00:51:35,815
Speaker 4: that's running down in there and then being tracked inside.

912
00:51:35,895 --> 00:51:39,855
Speaker 4: So there could be a combination of things that's happening

913
00:51:39,935 --> 00:51:42,335
Speaker 4: there that's causing the leak. So at the same time

914
00:51:42,375 --> 00:51:45,855
Speaker 4: as you fix the box section part of it, i'd

915
00:51:45,895 --> 00:51:48,535
Speaker 4: also have someone carefully look at the window, just assess it,

916
00:51:48,615 --> 00:51:51,095
Speaker 4: make sure it's working properly, and then go ahead with

917
00:51:51,175 --> 00:51:55,415
Speaker 4: the repair so you're not doing it again in the future. Yeah,

918
00:51:55,655 --> 00:52:00,135
Speaker 4: so there's a little bit in it. Unfortunately, all the

919
00:52:00,255 --> 00:52:03,775
Speaker 4: very best to you. Hope that helps my pleasure. Take

920
00:52:03,815 --> 00:52:07,455
Speaker 4: care bother then quick text Hey Pete, can we builder

921
00:52:07,575 --> 00:52:10,175
Speaker 4: in Canada here? I've been installing your PVC windows since

922
00:52:10,175 --> 00:52:13,255
Speaker 4: the late eighties, the uPVC performs well, no issues here

923
00:52:13,735 --> 00:52:19,335
Speaker 4: and yeah, there you go. It's interesting, Pete, it's weird

924
00:52:19,335 --> 00:52:20,935
Speaker 4: that you can build a granny flat up to seventy

925
00:52:20,975 --> 00:52:24,015
Speaker 4: square meters but only thirty square meters for a garage, etc.

926
00:52:25,215 --> 00:52:33,095
Speaker 4: M I hadn't really considered it. Well, hang on, no,

927
00:52:33,655 --> 00:52:36,735
Speaker 4: if this is actually you raise a really interesting point.

928
00:52:37,255 --> 00:52:39,895
Speaker 4: If you can build a seventy square meter granny flat

929
00:52:39,975 --> 00:52:42,975
Speaker 4: without needing a building consent, is it really about the

930
00:52:43,015 --> 00:52:44,935
Speaker 4: fact that you can build a granny flat or a

931
00:52:45,215 --> 00:52:48,495
Speaker 4: simple standalone dwelling, or can you build any structure up

932
00:52:48,535 --> 00:52:52,895
Speaker 4: to seventy square meters. That's a very very good point.

933
00:52:53,775 --> 00:52:55,895
Speaker 4: Thank you text on that one. We'll come back and

934
00:52:55,935 --> 00:52:58,895
Speaker 4: talk to Nick in just a moment. Your news talk set.

935
00:52:58,815 --> 00:53:02,215
Speaker 1: Be doing up house storting the garden. Last, Pete for

936
00:53:02,295 --> 00:53:05,655
Speaker 1: a hand the resident builder with Peter Wolfcap call, Oh

937
00:53:05,695 --> 00:53:11,015
Speaker 1: eight hundred, Envy, Now let's get into it.

938
00:53:11,095 --> 00:53:13,615
Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

939
00:53:13,655 --> 00:53:17,655
Speaker 4: to call now before we do that? Actually, ah, here

940
00:53:17,695 --> 00:53:19,855
Speaker 4: we go. Now, with the weather getting a little bit

941
00:53:19,935 --> 00:53:22,655
Speaker 4: warmer and the season starting to change, it won't be

942
00:53:22,695 --> 00:53:24,775
Speaker 4: long before you're out getting stuck into the garden like

943
00:53:24,935 --> 00:53:27,055
Speaker 4: I was the last couple of days and enjoying the

944
00:53:27,135 --> 00:53:30,655
Speaker 4: fresh air. Spring is the perfect time to get your

945
00:53:30,695 --> 00:53:33,575
Speaker 4: garden growing. And what's the secret to bigger, stronger, more

946
00:53:33,615 --> 00:53:37,255
Speaker 4: productive plants. It's root blast if you haven't heard, root

947
00:53:37,335 --> 00:53:40,815
Speaker 4: blast gives your plants that little extra boost of nutrients

948
00:53:40,895 --> 00:53:44,655
Speaker 4: they need to grow abundantly. Simply add root blast to

949
00:53:44,855 --> 00:53:49,375
Speaker 4: your soil and what your plants grow. Whether it's flowers, veggies, trees,

950
00:53:49,495 --> 00:53:52,615
Speaker 4: or the humble house plant, a little sprinkle of root

951
00:53:52,695 --> 00:53:56,295
Speaker 4: bar blast helps build stronger plants from the roots up

952
00:53:56,335 --> 00:54:01,015
Speaker 4: and plays a part in creating healthier leaf structures. In turn,

953
00:54:01,495 --> 00:54:04,135
Speaker 4: you'll have plants every green thumb will be jealous of.

954
00:54:04,375 --> 00:54:08,655
Speaker 4: It's environmentally safe, it's hormone free, it's disease resistant, so

955
00:54:08,895 --> 00:54:12,255
Speaker 4: no need to worry about those nasties. Plus it's easy

956
00:54:12,295 --> 00:54:15,375
Speaker 4: to use one application, no need to mix with water.

957
00:54:15,735 --> 00:54:17,735
Speaker 4: Get the most out of your garden this spring. To

958
00:54:17,815 --> 00:54:20,935
Speaker 4: get your hands on root blast, call eight hundred root

959
00:54:20,975 --> 00:54:24,415
Speaker 4: Blast or search root blast dot co dot nz or

960
00:54:24,495 --> 00:54:29,135
Speaker 4: see your nearest garden store. Z beh Okay, we're into it.

961
00:54:29,335 --> 00:54:32,055
Speaker 4: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty Nick, good morning to.

962
00:54:32,095 --> 00:54:35,215
Speaker 7: You the morning, Pete.

963
00:54:35,215 --> 00:54:36,895
Speaker 4: How are you very well? How can I help?

964
00:54:39,015 --> 00:54:39,175
Speaker 9: Good?

965
00:54:39,215 --> 00:54:41,775
Speaker 7: Hey, I just got in the car and turned the

966
00:54:41,855 --> 00:54:43,815
Speaker 7: radio on a little bit late, but I heard you

967
00:54:43,895 --> 00:54:50,815
Speaker 7: talking about garden sheds up against boundaries. Now, so that

968
00:54:51,175 --> 00:54:53,535
Speaker 7: don't include swimming pool sheds. I suppose there any kind

969
00:54:53,575 --> 00:54:55,335
Speaker 7: of shed, right, I.

970
00:54:55,415 --> 00:54:58,575
Speaker 4: Think it's described as a shed up to ten square

971
00:54:58,615 --> 00:54:59,615
Speaker 4: meters in size.

972
00:55:02,055 --> 00:55:05,855
Speaker 7: Okay, there are heights to boundary ratio on that or anything.

973
00:55:06,495 --> 00:55:10,175
Speaker 4: Well, to be fair, I'm not sure. I guess the

974
00:55:10,255 --> 00:55:12,855
Speaker 4: assumption being that, you know, most sheds are sort of

975
00:55:12,935 --> 00:55:17,895
Speaker 4: around two point two two point four meters high. Certainly

976
00:55:17,935 --> 00:55:20,495
Speaker 4: there'll be a maximum, as there is for the granny

977
00:55:20,535 --> 00:55:23,855
Speaker 4: flat legislation, so the buildings there can be a maximum

978
00:55:23,935 --> 00:55:29,895
Speaker 4: of four meters high. But I think that would exclude sheds.

979
00:55:29,895 --> 00:55:31,695
Speaker 4: I mean, if your neighbor puts a four meter high

980
00:55:31,735 --> 00:55:34,095
Speaker 4: shed on the boundary, I think you're probably going to

981
00:55:34,175 --> 00:55:40,495
Speaker 4: have grounds to object, yes, okay, right, all.

982
00:55:40,495 --> 00:55:44,495
Speaker 7: Right, I'll just more investigating on that with our good counsel. Yeah.

983
00:55:44,655 --> 00:55:47,175
Speaker 4: And look, typically their response will be, you know, like

984
00:55:47,295 --> 00:55:49,695
Speaker 4: if it's an issue where you might want to complain

985
00:55:49,735 --> 00:55:55,295
Speaker 4: about a neighbor's placement. Also right now, the current rules apply, right,

986
00:55:55,495 --> 00:55:59,495
Speaker 4: so any sheds that are there, if they're infringing, now

987
00:56:00,055 --> 00:56:03,735
Speaker 4: you would have grounds to comply to complain. Rather, I

988
00:56:03,815 --> 00:56:07,615
Speaker 4: guess if someone install are shed now ahead of the

989
00:56:07,695 --> 00:56:12,455
Speaker 4: legislation actually becoming law, that would be non compliant. But

990
00:56:12,615 --> 00:56:15,015
Speaker 4: once it does come in, it seems like anything up

991
00:56:15,055 --> 00:56:19,055
Speaker 4: to ten square meters can be placed basically on the boundary.

992
00:56:21,535 --> 00:56:24,135
Speaker 4: All right, okay, all right, good luck with that, take

993
00:56:24,215 --> 00:56:26,775
Speaker 4: care of all the best and Peter, good morning to you.

994
00:56:27,895 --> 00:56:28,015
Speaker 5: Hi.

995
00:56:28,135 --> 00:56:28,415
Speaker 11: Pete.

996
00:56:28,695 --> 00:56:31,455
Speaker 9: Hey, this is a little bit of strange question, but

997
00:56:32,775 --> 00:56:35,495
Speaker 9: one of my family members has bought a nineteen sixty

998
00:56:35,575 --> 00:56:38,655
Speaker 9: style house. It's had some renovations done in the bathroom

999
00:56:38,775 --> 00:56:42,095
Speaker 9: and kitchen, but need some others done. I just want

1000
00:56:42,175 --> 00:56:44,695
Speaker 9: to know, is here like a planning guide for doing

1001
00:56:44,815 --> 00:56:46,815
Speaker 9: these things so that you don't you know, like if

1002
00:56:46,855 --> 00:56:51,055
Speaker 9: I need electrician in the one room, I can bink

1003
00:56:51,095 --> 00:56:54,335
Speaker 9: ahead and making sure that any other stuff can be done.

1004
00:56:55,055 --> 00:56:57,335
Speaker 9: Is there any books that you're seen as being done

1005
00:56:57,455 --> 00:56:59,895
Speaker 9: very well? And the other part of the question is

1006
00:57:00,135 --> 00:57:03,295
Speaker 9: is there people that are not architects as such, but

1007
00:57:03,615 --> 00:57:08,135
Speaker 9: help will renovations And the idea one of the laundry

1008
00:57:08,215 --> 00:57:12,095
Speaker 9: has to be the flaw needs to be raised and

1009
00:57:12,215 --> 00:57:14,695
Speaker 9: then it has an impact on the ceiling and things

1010
00:57:14,815 --> 00:57:18,095
Speaker 9: like that. So just kind of keen to, you know,

1011
00:57:18,295 --> 00:57:20,575
Speaker 9: like have a plan that you can work off because

1012
00:57:20,735 --> 00:57:24,135
Speaker 9: the renovations could take twelve months, eighty months, sure, and

1013
00:57:24,815 --> 00:57:28,775
Speaker 9: so you don't double things, you know, electrition back and

1014
00:57:28,855 --> 00:57:30,215
Speaker 9: again that type of thing.

1015
00:57:32,615 --> 00:57:36,295
Speaker 4: It's a fantastic question. I can't say how you know

1016
00:57:36,375 --> 00:57:42,775
Speaker 4: how important and pertinent and timely that sort of question is, Gosh,

1017
00:57:42,775 --> 00:57:46,935
Speaker 4: where do you start? I guess part of it is

1018
00:57:47,055 --> 00:57:51,255
Speaker 4: determined by the scope of the work. So if most

1019
00:57:51,375 --> 00:57:53,855
Speaker 4: of the work that is a that you need to

1020
00:57:53,935 --> 00:57:56,975
Speaker 4: do on this particular property can be done under Schedule

1021
00:57:57,015 --> 00:57:58,535
Speaker 4: one of the Act, which means you don't need a

1022
00:57:58,575 --> 00:58:01,575
Speaker 4: building consent, then you're not going to be engaging with

1023
00:58:01,735 --> 00:58:06,095
Speaker 4: a designer, right. But if it does require a building

1024
00:58:06,135 --> 00:58:08,775
Speaker 4: can and you are going to have them put from

1025
00:58:08,815 --> 00:58:13,415
Speaker 4: a professional designer, architectural designer, architect whoever, then you might

1026
00:58:13,535 --> 00:58:18,615
Speaker 4: find that you get some guidance from them. Otherwise, if

1027
00:58:18,695 --> 00:58:22,135
Speaker 4: you can find a contractor who's going to be doing

1028
00:58:22,215 --> 00:58:24,255
Speaker 4: the work, who can come and spend a bit of

1029
00:58:24,335 --> 00:58:28,415
Speaker 4: time with you beforehand to sort of map out it's

1030
00:58:28,455 --> 00:58:33,215
Speaker 4: that sort of thing like for experienced contractors, we've kind

1031
00:58:33,255 --> 00:58:35,615
Speaker 4: of got it in our head, right, we understand the process.

1032
00:58:35,695 --> 00:58:37,855
Speaker 4: So hey, we're going to do X, Y and Z,

1033
00:58:38,135 --> 00:58:41,095
Speaker 4: and it's step ABC and D, and we've got that

1034
00:58:41,535 --> 00:58:43,535
Speaker 4: in our heads, right. So you want to be able

1035
00:58:43,575 --> 00:58:46,895
Speaker 4: to extract that little bit of information and help them

1036
00:58:47,055 --> 00:58:52,175
Speaker 4: to guide you through the process. So that's getting the

1037
00:58:52,255 --> 00:58:55,415
Speaker 4: contractor early contractor engagement could be really helpful for that,

1038
00:58:56,535 --> 00:58:59,015
Speaker 4: so you could do it that way. In terms of guides,

1039
00:58:59,135 --> 00:59:02,855
Speaker 4: there's a group called the Super Home Movement that have

1040
00:59:03,655 --> 00:59:07,455
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago they produced Base, a guide

1041
00:59:07,615 --> 00:59:11,615
Speaker 4: for better building. They've also now either about to or

1042
00:59:11,735 --> 00:59:16,375
Speaker 4: have just released a renovation guide. So if you're interested

1043
00:59:16,615 --> 00:59:19,695
Speaker 4: in getting a building that is warm, dry, comfortable, a

1044
00:59:19,815 --> 00:59:22,775
Speaker 4: more high performance home, you can use the guide. So

1045
00:59:22,855 --> 00:59:29,335
Speaker 4: it helps with information about retrofitting, joinery fitting, insulation, getting

1046
00:59:29,415 --> 00:59:32,175
Speaker 4: decent ventilation into a building, all of those sorts of things,

1047
00:59:32,495 --> 00:59:37,375
Speaker 4: and it's specifically focused on renovations and so that's a

1048
00:59:37,495 --> 00:59:40,015
Speaker 4: really good place to start. So if you just search

1049
00:59:40,095 --> 00:59:45,815
Speaker 4: for Super Home Movement, you'll find their guides there. The

1050
00:59:45,935 --> 00:59:49,575
Speaker 4: other thing too, is brands have done a lot of

1051
00:59:49,695 --> 00:59:54,575
Speaker 4: research in terms of retrofitting older buildings, and in fact,

1052
00:59:54,615 --> 00:59:57,695
Speaker 4: I think they've either got hard copies or copies online

1053
00:59:58,295 --> 01:00:02,175
Speaker 4: of guidance around you know what to do with older buildings,

1054
01:00:02,615 --> 01:00:05,895
Speaker 4: what the key issues are, and how to solve them.

1055
01:00:06,815 --> 01:00:09,655
Speaker 4: So I think between all of those you'll be able

1056
01:00:09,695 --> 01:00:13,655
Speaker 4: to put together a bit of a plan. But I

1057
01:00:13,815 --> 01:00:16,735
Speaker 4: think there's I think there's an enormous benefit in what

1058
01:00:16,895 --> 01:00:21,015
Speaker 4: we might call formally early contract or engagement, whether that's

1059
01:00:21,055 --> 01:00:24,295
Speaker 4: something that the contractor will do and sort of do

1060
01:00:24,415 --> 01:00:27,375
Speaker 4: it basically without charging you because they're going to get

1061
01:00:27,375 --> 01:00:30,215
Speaker 4: the work later, or you pay them for their time

1062
01:00:30,735 --> 01:00:33,815
Speaker 4: and you get them to come and help you create

1063
01:00:33,895 --> 01:00:36,775
Speaker 4: a plan for an effective renovation. I think that'd be

1064
01:00:36,855 --> 01:00:41,655
Speaker 4: money well spent, fantastic, all the very best, enjoy the project,

1065
01:00:42,575 --> 01:00:45,895
Speaker 4: thank you, take care, then bye bye. Someone sets through.

1066
01:00:45,975 --> 01:00:48,535
Speaker 4: Why has the height to boundary shed rule changed, Robin.

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Speaker 4: I think it's probably a response to the fact that

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Speaker 4: everybody pretty much ignored the rules anyway, So and I

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Speaker 4: think this is I think it's been driven in large

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Speaker 4: part by David Seymour around his kind of removing unnecessary

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Speaker 4: red tape. And so the old guideline for garden sheds

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Speaker 4: is they used to be and still are until the

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Speaker 4: law comes in. They have to be the height of

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Speaker 4: the building away from the boundary. So if you've got

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Speaker 4: a two point two high garden shed, you need to

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01:01:22,175 --> 01:01:24,215
Speaker 4: put it two point two meters away from the boundary,

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Speaker 4: which kind of leaves you with a space that no

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01:01:26,615 --> 01:01:30,495
Speaker 4: one's ever going to use. To be fair in the

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Speaker 4: list case now, in smaller lots, rather than you know,

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01:01:33,935 --> 01:01:36,455
Speaker 4: putting them in a place that you're going to create

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01:01:36,495 --> 01:01:38,815
Speaker 4: a bit of wasted space, you can move it to

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01:01:38,895 --> 01:01:41,535
Speaker 4: the boundary as long as it's less than ten square meters.

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01:01:41,615 --> 01:01:44,735
Speaker 4: So unless you've built a shed that's ten meters long

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01:01:44,775 --> 01:01:47,535
Speaker 4: and one meter wide, chances are it's something in the

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01:01:47,775 --> 01:01:50,135
Speaker 4: four by two and a half that's ten square meters.

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Speaker 4: Then you'd end up with, you know, a four meter

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Speaker 4: high structure or four meter long and hopefully only two

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01:01:57,855 --> 01:02:02,975
Speaker 4: point four meter high roughly structure alongside your boundary. I

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01:02:03,095 --> 01:02:04,815
Speaker 4: still think there's going to be some problems with that

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01:02:04,935 --> 01:02:07,215
Speaker 4: from a practical point of view, but at the stage

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Speaker 4: that's where they're heading with the legislation. So as to why,

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Speaker 4: I think it's just because so many people ignored it anyway.

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Speaker 4: Craig are very good morning to you.

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Speaker 12: Yes, a good morning to you. I just remembered what

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01:02:21,135 --> 01:02:27,855
Speaker 12: wasn't inquiring about a two crapeers? And when can we

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Speaker 12: finally push push them to get on and finish the

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Speaker 12: There are repairs that I have nearly ten years now,

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Speaker 12: and I've still got repairs that have not complained. I've

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Speaker 12: got a split foundation that they caused when they lifted

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Speaker 12: the house unevenly. They will they will warned to not

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01:02:55,175 --> 01:02:59,975
Speaker 12: not to lift the house unevenly, and they did and

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01:03:00,095 --> 01:03:04,815
Speaker 12: they split the foundation. I've got a split level house

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01:03:05,295 --> 01:03:08,655
Speaker 12: and they lifted it evenly, and I've got water in

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01:03:08,975 --> 01:03:15,615
Speaker 12: entering the house, and I've got chap off walls, and

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01:03:17,855 --> 01:03:21,415
Speaker 12: that they don't seem interested, and they're not willing to

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01:03:21,535 --> 01:03:26,295
Speaker 12: spend any more money. And I think that they have

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01:03:26,455 --> 01:03:30,095
Speaker 12: got to the stage, after spending seven hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 12: on my house, that they are just going to wait

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Speaker 12: until everyone's sick of asking, and then they're going to say,

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Speaker 12: well that there's a total of you know, twenty five

1111
01:03:46,935 --> 01:03:53,575
Speaker 12: million or whatever, divided by the number of houses. You know,

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01:03:53,935 --> 01:03:55,535
Speaker 12: here's ten thousand dollars each.

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Speaker 4: I would have thought by now there would be like

1114
01:03:58,935 --> 01:04:02,575
Speaker 4: an old boodsman type role that's opened up so that

1115
01:04:02,735 --> 01:04:06,615
Speaker 4: people who are still struggling to complete their EQ see

1116
01:04:08,335 --> 01:04:13,375
Speaker 4: repairs if it's dragging on. Otherwise, I look with respect.

1117
01:04:13,655 --> 01:04:15,335
Speaker 4: I feel that it's something that you could go to

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01:04:15,375 --> 01:04:19,735
Speaker 4: your local councilor newly elected and get them to advocate

1119
01:04:19,815 --> 01:04:22,535
Speaker 4: on your behalf, or go to your local member of parliament,

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Speaker 4: or if there is an official sort of ombudsman type

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Speaker 4: body that's been there to establish to look after if

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01:04:30,295 --> 01:04:33,135
Speaker 4: you see repairs, that's going to get you a little

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01:04:33,175 --> 01:04:35,135
Speaker 4: bit more action than I might be able to. But

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Speaker 4: good luck and I can certainly imagine the frustration. Quick

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01:04:39,335 --> 01:04:41,535
Speaker 4: text before the break. You can remove the MDF ward

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01:04:41,615 --> 01:04:43,655
Speaker 4: from the window by using a wide chisel and just

1127
01:04:43,775 --> 01:04:45,935
Speaker 4: hading it on the face. It splits like a page

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01:04:46,015 --> 01:04:48,015
Speaker 4: and a book, and then peel it back and remove it.

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Speaker 4: I can do a bottom liner in an hour. Yeah,

1130
01:04:53,415 --> 01:04:54,695
Speaker 4: I hear what you're saying. How do you get rid

1131
01:04:54,735 --> 01:04:58,935
Speaker 4: of the staples though? Just push them back in and

1132
01:04:59,015 --> 01:05:03,295
Speaker 4: then insert the liner. Yeah, I mean that is an option,

1133
01:05:03,495 --> 01:05:06,735
Speaker 4: especially if it started to decay. Appreciate that. Thank you, Peter.

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Speaker 4: It is seven thirty three here at News Talks.

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01:05:09,135 --> 01:05:12,095
Speaker 1: HEEDB whether you're pety with ceiling, fixing with fans, or

1136
01:05:12,215 --> 01:05:14,415
Speaker 1: wondering how to fix that hole in the wall. Give

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01:05:14,495 --> 01:05:19,975
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfgamper call on the Resident Builder on newstalksed B.

1138
01:05:20,615 --> 01:05:24,015
Speaker 4: Your News Talks HEB seven point thirty six after the

1139
01:05:24,415 --> 01:05:27,295
Speaker 4: News at eight o'clock, Doctor Terry and Barry will be

1140
01:05:27,415 --> 01:05:30,735
Speaker 4: joining me. This week is kind of a focus week

1141
01:05:30,895 --> 01:05:34,375
Speaker 4: on construction waste, so we'll take a bit of a

1142
01:05:34,415 --> 01:05:37,335
Speaker 4: deep dive into that. And in fact, I was talking

1143
01:05:37,415 --> 01:05:39,135
Speaker 4: with her during the week and one of the things

1144
01:05:39,175 --> 01:05:43,015
Speaker 4: we were talking about is, if you know, like Peter

1145
01:05:43,215 --> 01:05:46,935
Speaker 4: talking about this nineteen sixties house and a renovation, I

1146
01:05:47,135 --> 01:05:51,775
Speaker 4: wonder how many people you basically, if you're talking with

1147
01:05:51,935 --> 01:05:56,135
Speaker 4: contractors and lbps and builders and so on before you

1148
01:05:56,215 --> 01:05:59,575
Speaker 4: start a project, do you ask them what are you

1149
01:05:59,695 --> 01:06:02,815
Speaker 4: doing with the waste? Like what's your waste management plan

1150
01:06:02,975 --> 01:06:05,895
Speaker 4: or what's your your minimization plan? Basically, what are you

1151
01:06:05,935 --> 01:06:08,975
Speaker 4: going to do it? I'd be really curious, even if

1152
01:06:09,015 --> 01:06:10,535
Speaker 4: you just want to send me a quick text on that,

1153
01:06:10,935 --> 01:06:12,855
Speaker 4: you know, do you ask if you're about to do

1154
01:06:13,055 --> 01:06:15,735
Speaker 4: let's say you're doing a two hundred thousand dollars renovation extension?

1155
01:06:15,815 --> 01:06:18,175
Speaker 4: DA DA da da da. Do you ask your contractors

1156
01:06:18,615 --> 01:06:21,295
Speaker 4: what are you doing with the waste? Really interested to know? Oh,

1157
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Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

1158
01:06:23,735 --> 01:06:27,055
Speaker 4: call if you'd like to chat. Wendy, good morning, Oh,

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01:06:27,135 --> 01:06:28,175
Speaker 4: good morning, Papa.

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Speaker 9: There.

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Speaker 10: I have a house that was built in nineteen ten

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Speaker 10: and it was built on the boundary. Has lots of

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Speaker 10: them seem to be in the area where I am.

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Speaker 10: So would the new regulations mean that someone could build

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Speaker 10: an under the nice square meter shared right up against

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Speaker 10: my house?

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Speaker 4: What a great question as well. Yeah, I guess when

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Speaker 4: they're introducing the legislation, they're thinking about most common situations.

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Speaker 4: And I know exactly what you mean. It's not uncommon

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Speaker 4: with older houses because a lot of them, you know,

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01:07:05,655 --> 01:07:07,055
Speaker 4: you got to think about at the time when they

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01:07:07,135 --> 01:07:10,015
Speaker 4: were built, right, they were probably built in some cases

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01:07:10,135 --> 01:07:15,935
Speaker 4: before formal surveying, and so it's only later on as

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01:07:16,015 --> 01:07:19,815
Speaker 4: the surveys became more formalized and now we've moved to

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01:07:20,015 --> 01:07:22,695
Speaker 4: cadastral surveying and that sort of thing that we actually

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01:07:22,775 --> 01:07:25,335
Speaker 4: find that, oh gosh, the boundaries one hundred millimeters one

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty millimeters from the edge of the building

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Speaker 4: and So what you're saying is that's your situation. Imagine

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Speaker 4: if the neighbor then said, right, I'm going to build

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Speaker 4: a new fence here and I'm going to put a

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01:07:36,935 --> 01:07:42,575
Speaker 4: shed on the boundary. Suddenly you're it means that you can't,

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Speaker 4: for example, get in and do any maintenance on that part.

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01:07:46,015 --> 01:07:48,895
Speaker 4: I mean you can't squeeze into one hundred and fifty milimeters,

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Speaker 4: can you?

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Speaker 10: Yes, exactly. So what happens there.

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Speaker 4: To be blunt I don't know, you know, And this

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Speaker 4: is where the legislation has been introduced, but it's untested

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01:08:01,455 --> 01:08:06,255
Speaker 4: in the real world. And I kind of understand where

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01:08:06,295 --> 01:08:09,095
Speaker 4: they're coming from in terms of saying, look, everybody pretty

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01:08:09,175 --> 01:08:14,775
Speaker 4: much everybody ignored the rules, right, And I've just checked

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01:08:14,775 --> 01:08:16,535
Speaker 4: again because someone text me and said, oh, wasn't it

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Speaker 4: that it had to be half the half the height

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Speaker 4: of the building away from the boundary. Currently it was

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Speaker 4: that it has to be the distance to the boundary

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Speaker 4: at least equal to its height. Right, So unless you

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Speaker 4: get a building, that's what it used to be. So

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Speaker 4: unless you've got a building consent, I wonder whether this

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Speaker 4: just becomes something that you're going to if it does happen,

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01:08:39,175 --> 01:08:41,935
Speaker 4: go to the neighbor and say, look, could you please

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Speaker 4: give me sufficient space to allow me to get in

1201
01:08:46,335 --> 01:08:48,575
Speaker 4: and do required, you know, if you needed to get

1202
01:08:48,615 --> 01:08:50,975
Speaker 4: there to get to a window, or if you needed

1203
01:08:51,695 --> 01:08:54,015
Speaker 4: Is that you're only access to the backyard down that

1204
01:08:54,135 --> 01:08:55,335
Speaker 4: side of the house. I presume not.

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01:08:57,375 --> 01:09:00,295
Speaker 10: No, the boundary goes all the way along, of course,

1206
01:09:00,455 --> 01:09:02,935
Speaker 10: you know, so I can't, And that would just rely

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01:09:03,175 --> 01:09:05,615
Speaker 10: on the good wall of my neighbor. And if I

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01:09:05,775 --> 01:09:10,135
Speaker 10: see something going up and I go over and say hey,

1209
01:09:10,295 --> 01:09:12,455
Speaker 10: and he said, oh, well look I've already started whatever.

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01:09:13,095 --> 01:09:16,175
Speaker 10: I mean, I feel a bit powerless about this unless

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01:09:16,255 --> 01:09:20,695
Speaker 10: there is some way that the regulations address the situation.

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Speaker 4: Unless there's something in the Property Act in terms of

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01:09:25,295 --> 01:09:27,655
Speaker 4: access for maintenance or something.

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01:09:27,495 --> 01:09:27,695
Speaker 6: Like that.

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01:09:29,215 --> 01:09:34,815
Speaker 10: Night, I wonder how i'd find oh, thank you, Oh yeah,

1216
01:09:34,815 --> 01:09:36,935
Speaker 10: a big problem for me maybe, But I wonder how

1217
01:09:37,055 --> 01:09:40,375
Speaker 10: I would find more information out because I wonder if

1218
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Speaker 10: the counsels would know.

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Speaker 4: Counsels will know, but remember, yeah, I mean they'll they'll

1220
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Speaker 4: know as much as anyone else. I guess. I wonder

1221
01:09:50,095 --> 01:09:54,295
Speaker 4: whether in drafting the legislation, and this would be true

1222
01:09:54,335 --> 01:09:59,335
Speaker 4: for all legislation, you don't know every unforeseen consequence and

1223
01:09:59,775 --> 01:10:03,055
Speaker 4: something like this where you know, my concern was always okay,

1224
01:10:03,175 --> 01:10:05,455
Speaker 4: So if we're saying to people build something and build

1225
01:10:05,455 --> 01:10:08,935
Speaker 4: it hard on the boundary, then even for that shed

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01:10:08,975 --> 01:10:12,335
Speaker 4: that's being built, you've taken away the opportunity to do

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Speaker 4: any maintenance on that.

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01:10:15,375 --> 01:10:18,535
Speaker 10: Right, so's they'd rather have the space, well, they don't

1229
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Speaker 10: care about that.

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Speaker 4: It's not a I know, I know, but it's not

1231
01:10:21,255 --> 01:10:24,655
Speaker 4: a practical solution either, or it's you know, but that's

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01:10:24,735 --> 01:10:26,615
Speaker 4: up to the homeowner, I guess to figure out. We'll

1233
01:10:26,655 --> 01:10:28,575
Speaker 4: hang on if I jam it hard up to the

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01:10:28,615 --> 01:10:30,775
Speaker 4: boundary and I can't get in there to maintain it,

1235
01:10:31,255 --> 01:10:33,975
Speaker 4: if it starts to leak, or if the cladding fails

1236
01:10:34,015 --> 01:10:35,255
Speaker 4: or something like that, I'm going to have to take

1237
01:10:35,295 --> 01:10:36,975
Speaker 4: the whole shed down in order to get to it.

1238
01:10:37,375 --> 01:10:41,655
Speaker 4: So hopefully, hey, look maybe common sense will prevail. Sure,

1239
01:10:43,455 --> 01:10:49,535
Speaker 4: and I'm both laughing about that. Look, I'll the short

1240
01:10:49,575 --> 01:10:52,495
Speaker 4: answer is, I'm not sure what the impact is. I

1241
01:10:52,655 --> 01:10:54,855
Speaker 4: get exactly where you're coming from, because I've worked on

1242
01:10:54,935 --> 01:10:57,695
Speaker 4: a number of houses where you know, older houses often

1243
01:10:57,975 --> 01:11:03,415
Speaker 4: right up on the boundary. Yeah, it's challenging. Not sure

1244
01:11:03,415 --> 01:11:04,575
Speaker 4: how that's going to wash up.

1245
01:11:06,455 --> 01:11:08,535
Speaker 10: Thanks, a lot, Petere for your health anyway.

1246
01:11:08,495 --> 01:11:10,855
Speaker 4: All right, nice to talk with you. All the best, Wendy,

1247
01:11:11,375 --> 01:11:13,375
Speaker 4: someone sticks through. If someone wants to build a shed

1248
01:11:13,455 --> 01:11:15,455
Speaker 4: up against your house, you could invoke the over my

1249
01:11:15,615 --> 01:11:18,615
Speaker 4: dead body clause. I don't know that that has any

1250
01:11:18,655 --> 01:11:20,815
Speaker 4: basis in law, does it? The over my dead body?

1251
01:11:20,855 --> 01:11:22,815
Speaker 4: I'm curious if you would like to offer up an

1252
01:11:22,855 --> 01:11:25,495
Speaker 4: opinion as to what that is. We could we could

1253
01:11:25,535 --> 01:11:27,695
Speaker 4: talk about that. Jupiter, Good morning to you.

1254
01:11:28,895 --> 01:11:34,095
Speaker 6: Hello, I've hello, I've emailed you a picture of my

1255
01:11:34,375 --> 01:11:38,095
Speaker 6: bathroom windows. If you opened it, let me.

1256
01:11:38,095 --> 01:11:40,335
Speaker 4: See if it will allow me to open it. I'm

1257
01:11:40,375 --> 01:11:50,735
Speaker 4: sure it will. The security protocols don't don't dum dum, yes, radio.

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01:11:52,535 --> 01:11:57,055
Speaker 6: It's all discolored. And it's a double blaze bathroom window.

1259
01:11:58,055 --> 01:12:00,495
Speaker 4: And that's so it's in the But how close to

1260
01:12:00,575 --> 01:12:01,215
Speaker 4: the shower is it?

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01:12:04,855 --> 01:12:06,015
Speaker 6: Two natives?

1262
01:12:06,455 --> 01:12:08,735
Speaker 4: So it doesn't get wet when you're using the shower

1263
01:12:08,775 --> 01:12:09,175
Speaker 4: as such?

1264
01:12:10,375 --> 01:12:13,495
Speaker 6: Well, if it's closed, oh not from the show, not.

1265
01:12:13,575 --> 01:12:18,215
Speaker 4: From the shower. I meant, yeah, and that discoloring. So

1266
01:12:18,255 --> 01:12:20,015
Speaker 4: I'm trying to paint a bit of a picture. Here

1267
01:12:20,815 --> 01:12:23,935
Speaker 4: was that window it's a bathroom window, so was it obscured?

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01:12:24,055 --> 01:12:29,175
Speaker 4: In the first place it is was it designed to

1269
01:12:29,255 --> 01:12:31,935
Speaker 4: have Is it designed to be opaque so for privacy

1270
01:12:32,055 --> 01:12:36,095
Speaker 4: for example, yes? Okay, But now it looks like that,

1271
01:12:36,255 --> 01:12:39,775
Speaker 4: which looks like you've sort of sprayed white a white

1272
01:12:39,895 --> 01:12:42,615
Speaker 4: solution or a cleaning solution over it. And is that

1273
01:12:43,015 --> 01:12:47,775
Speaker 4: discoloration that you see on the inside as in between

1274
01:12:47,895 --> 01:12:49,855
Speaker 4: the two layers of glass or is it on the

1275
01:12:50,015 --> 01:12:51,815
Speaker 4: surface of the glass?

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Speaker 8: M I thought that I.

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Speaker 6: Not one hundred percent sure.

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Speaker 4: How old is that window?

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Speaker 6: About thirteen years?

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01:13:03,815 --> 01:13:06,495
Speaker 4: About thirteen years? Okay? Do you think that when in

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01:13:06,735 --> 01:13:08,895
Speaker 4: the records for the building you might be able to

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01:13:08,975 --> 01:13:14,455
Speaker 4: find who the original joinery manufacturer was? Yes, okay, Well,

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01:13:14,455 --> 01:13:16,375
Speaker 4: if you've got some records like that, I'd go back

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01:13:16,415 --> 01:13:18,615
Speaker 4: to the manufacturer. They might be able to tell you

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01:13:18,815 --> 01:13:23,615
Speaker 4: who installed or who supplied that double glazed unit. I

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01:13:23,735 --> 01:13:26,175
Speaker 4: think it would be outside of the warranty period for

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01:13:26,295 --> 01:13:31,335
Speaker 4: the d G unit itself. And certainly if that discoloration,

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01:13:32,015 --> 01:13:35,175
Speaker 4: that opaqueness that I'm seeing on the photograph is insight

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01:13:35,335 --> 01:13:38,535
Speaker 4: so between the two layers of glass, there's no repair

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01:13:38,575 --> 01:13:41,535
Speaker 4: to that, you'll simply have to have it replaced. So

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Speaker 4: I wonder whether either the dessicont has failed. That absorbs

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01:13:45,455 --> 01:13:47,975
Speaker 4: the moisture that might be in there, or the actual

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01:13:48,175 --> 01:13:52,215
Speaker 4: seal the bead between the two layers has failed slightly.

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01:13:52,335 --> 01:13:56,455
Speaker 4: And in a really damp environment like a bathroom, you know,

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01:13:56,535 --> 01:14:01,055
Speaker 4: you're sort of pushing the performance of it. So I

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01:14:01,135 --> 01:14:03,575
Speaker 4: think it's a failure of the DG unit. It'll be

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01:14:03,655 --> 01:14:05,895
Speaker 4: a replacement, right.

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01:14:07,175 --> 01:14:10,095
Speaker 6: My second question is I had a new shower installed

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01:14:10,655 --> 01:14:14,015
Speaker 6: and one quarter of the floor creeks.

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01:14:14,855 --> 01:14:16,935
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, when you stand on it.

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01:14:17,055 --> 01:14:24,295
Speaker 4: Oh the actual shower tray itself. Yeah, oh right, well

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01:14:24,495 --> 01:14:29,735
Speaker 4: it like when they're installed. Well, so when you're installing

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01:14:29,775 --> 01:14:33,255
Speaker 4: these shower trays, the ground needs to be level and

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01:14:33,375 --> 01:14:37,135
Speaker 4: then you need to apply a sufficient bead of sealant

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01:14:37,175 --> 01:14:40,015
Speaker 4: to the underside of these typically little round circles on

1306
01:14:40,055 --> 01:14:42,815
Speaker 4: the underside of them, which is where it bears down.

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01:14:43,335 --> 01:14:44,895
Speaker 4: So what you want to do is make sure that

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01:14:45,095 --> 01:14:47,855
Speaker 4: all of that has some sealent underneath it to prevent

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01:14:47,975 --> 01:14:51,855
Speaker 4: that creaking. Really hard thing is if it's creaking, now,

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01:14:52,055 --> 01:14:53,935
Speaker 4: is it on a timber floor or concrete floor?

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01:14:55,415 --> 01:14:55,935
Speaker 9: Concrete?

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01:14:57,415 --> 01:15:00,615
Speaker 4: See, there's basically without pulling the whole thing apart, there's

1313
01:15:00,655 --> 01:15:04,495
Speaker 4: no way to get back in there. Unless what you

1314
01:15:04,655 --> 01:15:11,215
Speaker 4: did is on is it two sided or three sided,

1315
01:15:13,935 --> 01:15:17,495
Speaker 4: so it's into a corner and the creek that you're

1316
01:15:17,575 --> 01:15:21,575
Speaker 4: talking about the sound. Is it closest to the corner

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01:15:21,695 --> 01:15:24,055
Speaker 4: or closest to the rest of the bathroom.

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01:15:26,335 --> 01:15:28,335
Speaker 6: It's a school quarter like.

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01:15:28,575 --> 01:15:31,695
Speaker 4: Yes, But is that the quarter closest to the corner

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01:15:31,775 --> 01:15:35,815
Speaker 4: or is it a corner that's closest to the outside

1321
01:15:35,855 --> 01:15:36,935
Speaker 4: perimeter of the shower?

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01:15:38,415 --> 01:15:39,775
Speaker 6: To the outside perimeter?

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01:15:42,175 --> 01:15:44,895
Speaker 4: One option might be and you'd want to talk to

1324
01:15:45,135 --> 01:15:48,895
Speaker 4: some of the shower repair and shower install teams. Is

1325
01:15:49,255 --> 01:15:52,775
Speaker 4: you could theoretically drill a small hole through the side

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01:15:52,975 --> 01:15:56,735
Speaker 4: of the liner or through the side of the tray

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01:15:57,255 --> 01:16:01,975
Speaker 4: and try injecting some foam into there. It's a very

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01:16:02,095 --> 01:16:03,975
Speaker 4: fine balance because you don't want to put too much

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01:16:04,055 --> 01:16:06,095
Speaker 4: foam in there because it will expand and lift the

1330
01:16:06,095 --> 01:16:09,015
Speaker 4: train up, and not enough foam won't be enough to

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01:16:09,215 --> 01:16:12,975
Speaker 4: pack that space and get rid of that creek that

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01:16:13,615 --> 01:16:15,335
Speaker 4: I can imagine when was this done?

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01:16:16,935 --> 01:16:20,415
Speaker 6: When I was about coming up two years ago.

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01:16:21,495 --> 01:16:25,175
Speaker 4: I try and get the original contractor back because they

1335
01:16:25,615 --> 01:16:27,695
Speaker 4: if you install them well, they don't creak. And so

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01:16:27,775 --> 01:16:30,855
Speaker 4: the only conclusion you can draw is that whoever installed.

1337
01:16:30,895 --> 01:16:33,895
Speaker 4: It didn't take the time to either level the floor

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01:16:34,215 --> 01:16:36,415
Speaker 4: or to ensure that the surface is clean or that

1339
01:16:36,495 --> 01:16:39,135
Speaker 4: they put enough sealant underneath it, and that's why you've

1340
01:16:39,175 --> 01:16:41,695
Speaker 4: got a leak. So I think you've got grounds to

1341
01:16:41,735 --> 01:16:43,735
Speaker 4: go back to the contractor and say, hey, can you

1342
01:16:43,775 --> 01:16:47,335
Speaker 4: come and sort this out please? Okay, alrighty, all right,

1343
01:16:47,535 --> 01:16:49,735
Speaker 4: good luck. You nice to talk with you. Thanks for

1344
01:16:49,775 --> 01:16:53,015
Speaker 4: the email. Take care your News TALKSB coming up twelve

1345
01:16:53,055 --> 01:16:56,855
Speaker 4: minutes away from eight. Squeaky Door or Squeaky floor.

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01:16:57,055 --> 01:17:00,375
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder

1347
01:17:00,615 --> 01:17:01,615
Speaker 1: on News Talks B.

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01:17:02,455 --> 01:17:04,055
Speaker 4: Right, we're going to race through a couple of calls

1349
01:17:04,055 --> 01:17:05,735
Speaker 4: ahead of the news Tony, good morning.

1350
01:17:06,455 --> 01:17:07,135
Speaker 6: Yeah, good mining.

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01:17:07,615 --> 01:17:11,175
Speaker 13: Look I've just got a quick question for you. We've

1352
01:17:11,335 --> 01:17:16,215
Speaker 13: got a colonial townhouse, one of two, the adjacent one

1353
01:17:16,335 --> 01:17:18,735
Speaker 13: sold recently and the neighbor.

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01:17:18,495 --> 01:17:21,415
Speaker 5: Went up on the roof and he cut off the overhang.

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01:17:21,015 --> 01:17:22,015
Speaker 12: Of my barge board.

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01:17:23,615 --> 01:17:27,855
Speaker 13: Why he said, oh, I thought it needed trimming up, but.

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01:17:27,895 --> 01:17:28,895
Speaker 12: There was nothing wrong with it.

1358
01:17:30,135 --> 01:17:34,095
Speaker 13: So now it actually only goes to where it.

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01:17:34,095 --> 01:17:36,175
Speaker 5: Doesn't even cover the guttering, if you know what I mean.

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01:17:37,935 --> 01:17:39,095
Speaker 12: So what is I mean?

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01:17:39,695 --> 01:17:42,255
Speaker 13: The fact that it doesn't look right because one ends

1362
01:17:42,255 --> 01:17:46,215
Speaker 13: overhanging one. Is it a purpose for Do I need

1363
01:17:46,295 --> 01:17:47,695
Speaker 13: to replace it to overhang?

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01:17:50,455 --> 01:17:50,495
Speaker 7: No?

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01:17:50,695 --> 01:17:53,535
Speaker 4: In terms of like making sure the building doesn't leak

1366
01:17:53,695 --> 01:17:57,415
Speaker 4: in those sorts of things. No, If it's pure at

1367
01:17:57,455 --> 01:17:59,455
Speaker 4: that point, it's probably purely decorative.

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01:17:59,775 --> 01:17:59,935
Speaker 9: Right.

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01:18:01,655 --> 01:18:04,295
Speaker 4: So in order to cut the barge board back, did

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01:18:04,335 --> 01:18:06,175
Speaker 4: they cut through any of the roofing or anything like that,

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01:18:06,455 --> 01:18:07,855
Speaker 4: or just it projects out.

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01:18:07,815 --> 01:18:12,735
Speaker 13: Past the roof that my property overhangs his roof by

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01:18:12,935 --> 01:18:17,695
Speaker 13: like the difference of the feet, right, So he must

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01:18:17,735 --> 01:18:20,935
Speaker 13: have got a sin blade and just gone behind the

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01:18:21,015 --> 01:18:24,815
Speaker 13: gutter and cut it off, and the timber's fine. I've

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01:18:24,975 --> 01:18:27,975
Speaker 13: wanted two options, either to take it back and put

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01:18:28,015 --> 01:18:32,415
Speaker 13: a new overhang on, or just put some wood preserve

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01:18:32,615 --> 01:18:34,335
Speaker 13: on the end of it and then paint it.

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01:18:35,815 --> 01:18:38,175
Speaker 4: I would probably, you know, in terms of making it

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01:18:38,415 --> 01:18:41,415
Speaker 4: a straightforward job, just go and do exactly that. Trim

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01:18:41,535 --> 01:18:44,095
Speaker 4: up the end, you know, send it a bit, put

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01:18:44,135 --> 01:18:48,215
Speaker 4: some treatment in there to prevent possible decay, and then

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01:18:48,415 --> 01:18:51,855
Speaker 4: yeah some middle X or yeah, yeah, that's probably the

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01:18:51,935 --> 01:18:54,975
Speaker 4: best one. Do that and then paint it and leave it.

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01:18:55,055 --> 01:18:57,375
Speaker 4: But I guess what happens now is you can see

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01:18:57,415 --> 01:19:00,135
Speaker 4: the end of the spouting, and that would have been

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01:19:00,215 --> 01:19:03,175
Speaker 4: covered in some part by that barge board extending out.

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01:19:03,855 --> 01:19:04,815
Speaker 4: Kind of chicky, isn't it.

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01:19:05,815 --> 01:19:08,575
Speaker 13: Well, that's what I said. He's a Russian.

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01:19:09,535 --> 01:19:12,575
Speaker 12: I'm not against any Russians or anything, but it doesn't.

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01:19:12,495 --> 01:19:16,375
Speaker 5: Say good English, right, And I just can't.

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01:19:16,975 --> 01:19:19,175
Speaker 13: I was there, and I looked up and had gone.

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01:19:21,615 --> 01:19:23,855
Speaker 4: To be fair, it's a story that I've never heard before.

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01:19:24,055 --> 01:19:29,655
Speaker 4: But that look, I think, rather than provoke a boundary dispute, maybe,

1395
01:19:29,855 --> 01:19:31,935
Speaker 4: like you say, just from the end, tidy it up,

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01:19:32,135 --> 01:19:35,175
Speaker 4: seal it and paint it and you've got a great

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01:19:35,215 --> 01:19:39,175
Speaker 4: story to talk about later on a right, nice to

1398
01:19:39,255 --> 01:19:41,895
Speaker 4: chat with you all the bit. Thank you, thank you,

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01:19:42,335 --> 01:19:47,055
Speaker 4: Take care boy. Then, Gabriel, good morning, Hello Gabriel.

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01:19:47,455 --> 01:19:49,215
Speaker 9: Hello, hey, very good morning to you.

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01:19:49,615 --> 01:19:51,175
Speaker 4: How are your morning to I'm well.

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01:19:51,575 --> 01:19:55,175
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, first first time caller. We've been in this

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01:19:55,335 --> 01:19:58,935
Speaker 9: house for twenty eight years and the house behind us

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01:19:59,015 --> 01:20:03,135
Speaker 9: has been changed ownership twice. So the person living in

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01:20:03,255 --> 01:20:07,255
Speaker 9: it now loves to grow things on the bow defence

1406
01:20:08,615 --> 01:20:12,055
Speaker 9: and do what happened. We've got like a big, big shrub.

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01:20:12,255 --> 01:20:15,815
Speaker 9: I mean it's this big shrub which is started to

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01:20:15,975 --> 01:20:18,975
Speaker 9: lean the fence over, so we had a closer look.

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01:20:19,175 --> 01:20:24,095
Speaker 9: It started to rot at the bottom defence and we

1410
01:20:24,215 --> 01:20:26,655
Speaker 9: discussed it with him, could you please call the shrubs

1411
01:20:26,815 --> 01:20:30,015
Speaker 9: take what's behind it? He grew banana trees, he grew

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01:20:30,175 --> 01:20:34,935
Speaker 9: parties not even a meter from the fence, and after

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01:20:35,055 --> 01:20:37,855
Speaker 9: discussing yes he will, he would not. They put the

1414
01:20:37,935 --> 01:20:40,735
Speaker 9: house up for sale, which is only about a week now.

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01:20:40,895 --> 01:20:43,855
Speaker 9: So we thought we'll have a look at the open

1416
01:20:43,935 --> 01:20:46,735
Speaker 9: home and we had a closer look. There is so

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01:20:47,215 --> 01:20:49,615
Speaker 9: growing at the bottom of the fence and past the

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01:20:50,815 --> 01:20:53,455
Speaker 9: covering all of it and with the root with the

1419
01:20:54,455 --> 01:20:58,055
Speaker 9: fence leaning over to our place. I mean he's going

1420
01:20:58,135 --> 01:21:01,095
Speaker 9: to walk away by selling the house and handing the

1421
01:21:01,175 --> 01:21:05,775
Speaker 9: problem to the new owner. Should we tell the agents

1422
01:21:05,895 --> 01:21:09,935
Speaker 9: selling that they should put as a problem for the next.

1423
01:21:10,415 --> 01:21:13,455
Speaker 4: Ah, that's a really interesting one. Yeah, because once agents

1424
01:21:13,495 --> 01:21:17,455
Speaker 4: are informed about that, then they have a duty to disclose.

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01:21:17,695 --> 01:21:17,815
Speaker 5: Right.

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01:21:18,855 --> 01:21:22,495
Speaker 4: That's probably not a bad tactic, to be fair, and

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01:21:22,815 --> 01:21:26,055
Speaker 4: what it might do is prompt the current owner to

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01:21:26,295 --> 01:21:28,535
Speaker 4: sort of sort it out before they sell it, hopefully.

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01:21:28,935 --> 01:21:32,775
Speaker 4: There is also your other possibilities. You could seek redress

1430
01:21:32,815 --> 01:21:36,695
Speaker 4: through the property through basically the Property Act right which

1431
01:21:36,975 --> 01:21:40,095
Speaker 4: you know you can't deliberately do something that impacts on

1432
01:21:40,215 --> 01:21:45,255
Speaker 4: your neighbor. You can't undermine, you know, walls or those

1433
01:21:45,295 --> 01:21:48,535
Speaker 4: sorts of things. But if that's being sold, then you're right.

1434
01:21:48,655 --> 01:21:51,335
Speaker 4: The person's likely to just walk away from this and

1435
01:21:51,455 --> 01:21:53,375
Speaker 4: the new owner you have to deal with the new owner.

1436
01:21:53,455 --> 01:21:56,055
Speaker 4: So yeah, raising it with the agent might actually be

1437
01:21:56,695 --> 01:22:01,015
Speaker 4: quite a good tactic. It's I mean, I've always Thanksgaverall

1438
01:22:01,055 --> 01:22:04,175
Speaker 4: for that. You always feel, gee, I wish these things

1439
01:22:04,255 --> 01:22:06,055
Speaker 4: didn't happen, but they do, and I guess that's why

1440
01:22:06,135 --> 01:22:10,335
Speaker 4: the war is there. Radio after the break we are

1441
01:22:10,455 --> 01:22:14,015
Speaker 4: going to be talking to doctor Terryanne Barry about well

1442
01:22:14,055 --> 01:22:17,335
Speaker 4: basically we're talking rubbish after the break, News talks beat

1443
01:22:17,455 --> 01:22:18,855
Speaker 4: back after the eight o'clock.

1444
01:22:18,615 --> 01:22:19,855
Speaker 6: News, me.

1445
01:22:21,495 --> 01:22:25,375
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The Resident

1446
01:22:25,455 --> 01:22:29,655
Speaker 1: Builder with Peter wolfcants call eight eight Youth Talk ZB.

1447
01:22:36,335 --> 01:22:38,855
Speaker 4: It is Supertramp the Long Way Home. Well, in fact,

1448
01:22:38,935 --> 01:22:40,775
Speaker 4: that's I didn't know who's going to play that song,

1449
01:22:40,855 --> 01:22:43,095
Speaker 4: but it's actually not a bad song in terms of

1450
01:22:43,215 --> 01:22:45,735
Speaker 4: thinking about what we're about to talk about, which is

1451
01:22:46,775 --> 01:22:49,695
Speaker 4: sort of a long, long issue that we've got to

1452
01:22:49,735 --> 01:22:51,855
Speaker 4: deal with. It's a long way to find a really

1453
01:22:51,895 --> 01:22:55,895
Speaker 4: good solution to this. So before we begin our chat

1454
01:22:55,975 --> 01:22:59,495
Speaker 4: with doctor Terryanne Barry, I just want to be really,

1455
01:22:59,575 --> 01:23:02,735
Speaker 4: really upfront with everyone. This is something that I am

1456
01:23:02,975 --> 01:23:06,255
Speaker 4: quite passionate about, quite involved about. I sit as a

1457
01:23:06,575 --> 01:23:09,255
Speaker 4: trustee of a not for profit that works on a

1458
01:23:09,415 --> 01:23:14,135
Speaker 4: local recycling center. So I'll hang my colors on the

1459
01:23:14,215 --> 01:23:16,735
Speaker 4: line and say, I think we've got a massive problem.

1460
01:23:16,815 --> 01:23:19,895
Speaker 4: And I think as a sector, we as builders, constructors,

1461
01:23:21,055 --> 01:23:25,455
Speaker 4: contribute far too much to waste and many of my colleagues,

1462
01:23:25,575 --> 01:23:28,455
Speaker 4: let's say, in the industry, have an appalling attitude to it.

1463
01:23:28,655 --> 01:23:31,055
Speaker 4: So just so you know where I'm coming from, That's

1464
01:23:31,055 --> 01:23:33,815
Speaker 4: where I'm coming from. So let me introduce to you

1465
01:23:34,015 --> 01:23:36,975
Speaker 4: doctor Terry Anne. Just reading from your the Environmental Innovation

1466
01:23:37,135 --> 01:23:40,935
Speaker 4: Center that she heads up as well trained chemist, oceanographer

1467
01:23:41,455 --> 01:23:45,135
Speaker 4: PhD and Water and Wastewater Engineering Fellow of the Royal

1468
01:23:45,255 --> 01:23:50,495
Speaker 4: Society of Chemistry, Charted chemist and environmentalist, part time Associate

1469
01:23:50,575 --> 01:23:55,175
Speaker 4: professor at Auckland University and adjunct professor at Southern Cross

1470
01:23:55,295 --> 01:23:59,095
Speaker 4: University in Australia. It is my great pleasure to welcome

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01:23:59,135 --> 01:24:01,855
Speaker 4: to the program doctor Kerry. Terry Anne, very good morning,

1472
01:24:03,055 --> 01:24:05,735
Speaker 4: good morning to speak to you nice to speak with

1473
01:24:05,815 --> 01:24:09,175
Speaker 4: you too. So I pinned my colors to the mast

1474
01:24:09,335 --> 01:24:11,935
Speaker 4: and go, this is where I stand on it. Can

1475
01:24:12,095 --> 01:24:17,695
Speaker 4: you give us a snapshot of the construction sector and

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01:24:17,815 --> 01:24:22,415
Speaker 4: its contribution to the amount of material that goes to landfill?

1477
01:24:22,575 --> 01:24:24,575
Speaker 4: How wasteful are we?

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01:24:26,535 --> 01:24:30,175
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's quite impressive, actually for a very resourceful society.

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01:24:32,935 --> 01:24:35,135
Speaker 14: So let me put it into a bit of context,

1480
01:24:35,295 --> 01:24:38,095
Speaker 14: because I always find giving just numbers out it's actually

1481
01:24:38,135 --> 01:24:41,935
Speaker 14: quite hard to visualize. So every person in New Zealand,

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01:24:42,175 --> 01:24:46,415
Speaker 14: on average is contributing about three tons of waste per

1483
01:24:46,575 --> 01:24:50,135
Speaker 14: year annually. Now three tons means nothing to me, so

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01:24:50,215 --> 01:24:52,095
Speaker 14: I put it in my terminology, which is the same

1485
01:24:52,135 --> 01:24:56,615
Speaker 14: as about three Sisuki swifts and about sixteen five hundred

1486
01:24:56,935 --> 01:25:01,255
Speaker 14: packets of tintams. But with that waste value, I know

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01:25:01,295 --> 01:25:05,455
Speaker 14: that's huge, isn't it. That waste value remember includes construction waste.

1488
01:25:05,615 --> 01:25:07,775
Speaker 14: That's not just waste that we put in our bin.

1489
01:25:08,215 --> 01:25:11,575
Speaker 14: It's also the construction waste. And construction waste is about

1490
01:25:11,735 --> 01:25:14,255
Speaker 14: sixty to seventy percent of all the waste that goes

1491
01:25:14,295 --> 01:25:18,895
Speaker 14: to landfill, and that's huge. And remember that waste means

1492
01:25:18,975 --> 01:25:22,095
Speaker 14: something's wasted, and in this case it's not just that

1493
01:25:22,175 --> 01:25:25,255
Speaker 14: we're wasting resources, but they're also wasting.

1494
01:25:24,975 --> 01:25:29,335
Speaker 4: Money, yep. And we've got to find somewhere to put that.

1495
01:25:29,615 --> 01:25:32,335
Speaker 4: And right now, right across the country, there's lots of

1496
01:25:32,575 --> 01:25:35,775
Speaker 4: local community groups that are upset about, you know, maybe

1497
01:25:35,815 --> 01:25:39,335
Speaker 4: a landfill applying for permission to extend because they're running

1498
01:25:39,375 --> 01:25:41,895
Speaker 4: out of room because the trucks keep rolling in day

1499
01:25:42,095 --> 01:25:45,455
Speaker 4: after day after day with material that we've decided we

1500
01:25:45,575 --> 01:25:47,095
Speaker 4: just can't be bothered doing anything about.

1501
01:25:48,375 --> 01:25:52,295
Speaker 14: Yeah. Absolutely, Look, I've never seen a state agent advertisement

1502
01:25:52,375 --> 01:25:55,935
Speaker 14: for a house that says, hey close to local landfill, because.

1503
01:25:55,855 --> 01:25:57,935
Speaker 10: The reality is we don't want to.

1504
01:25:57,935 --> 01:26:00,495
Speaker 14: Live negst to a landfill. And that's quite understandable. And

1505
01:26:00,815 --> 01:26:04,015
Speaker 14: that report by Ben Leahy from The Herald was really interesting.

1506
01:26:04,055 --> 01:26:09,055
Speaker 14: You know, Red Veil landfill parents, you know, understandably not

1507
01:26:09,175 --> 01:26:11,535
Speaker 14: really keen on the fact that the air pollution issues

1508
01:26:11,575 --> 01:26:14,295
Speaker 14: and object to the extension. The Whitford residents don't want

1509
01:26:14,295 --> 01:26:16,175
Speaker 14: all the waste going there from all of Auckland. And

1510
01:26:16,735 --> 01:26:19,215
Speaker 14: the new way by a Valley landfill has been in

1511
01:26:19,255 --> 01:26:22,335
Speaker 14: the works for nearly seventeen years and it's not due

1512
01:26:22,375 --> 01:26:24,975
Speaker 14: to open until we sort of mid twenty thirty, so look,

1513
01:26:25,215 --> 01:26:29,655
Speaker 14: landfills are not particularly popular, but they're also really expensive

1514
01:26:29,735 --> 01:26:32,055
Speaker 14: to set up and to run, and they'll operate, and

1515
01:26:32,255 --> 01:26:35,255
Speaker 14: if we keep filling them up really really quickly, then

1516
01:26:35,535 --> 01:26:38,775
Speaker 14: the outset is that, yes, we might end up living

1517
01:26:38,855 --> 01:26:40,575
Speaker 14: closer to them because we're going to need more. But

1518
01:26:40,695 --> 01:26:43,335
Speaker 14: also the prices are going to be going to be

1519
01:26:43,415 --> 01:26:46,215
Speaker 14: going up for you to dispose to landfill, and that's

1520
01:26:46,255 --> 01:26:47,135
Speaker 14: going to have an impact on.

1521
01:26:47,255 --> 01:26:47,975
Speaker 12: Us long term.

1522
01:26:49,375 --> 01:26:52,415
Speaker 4: So if we take a snapshot, we're going roughly every

1523
01:26:52,535 --> 01:26:55,535
Speaker 4: single person in the country contributes about three tons of waste.

1524
01:26:55,575 --> 01:26:57,255
Speaker 4: If you looked at the total amount of waste, now,

1525
01:26:57,335 --> 01:26:58,655
Speaker 4: most of us will look at that and go, well,

1526
01:26:58,695 --> 01:27:01,175
Speaker 4: hang on, I put my wheely burnout at ways about

1527
01:27:01,215 --> 01:27:05,455
Speaker 4: ten kilos every week. You know, surely that's not me.

1528
01:27:06,375 --> 01:27:10,535
Speaker 4: Probably isn't because it is people like me. As a contractor,

1529
01:27:10,615 --> 01:27:13,815
Speaker 4: as a carpenter. You know, we're pulling down a house

1530
01:27:13,935 --> 01:27:16,815
Speaker 4: right or and then we're going what do I do

1531
01:27:17,015 --> 01:27:20,055
Speaker 4: with this? Or we're building new and you know the

1532
01:27:20,175 --> 01:27:22,855
Speaker 4: one thing that you see on almost every single building site,

1533
01:27:23,215 --> 01:27:27,015
Speaker 4: there's a great big skip out there, and depending on

1534
01:27:27,055 --> 01:27:30,495
Speaker 4: who's running the job, either everything goes in there or

1535
01:27:30,735 --> 01:27:33,455
Speaker 4: a little bit goes in there, So if you do

1536
01:27:33,815 --> 01:27:37,095
Speaker 4: want to do something about it, what can you do?

1537
01:27:39,335 --> 01:27:44,415
Speaker 14: Yeah, look, I think that it's really important to say

1538
01:27:44,455 --> 01:27:46,775
Speaker 14: that we're not going to completely recycle ourselves out of

1539
01:27:46,855 --> 01:27:49,495
Speaker 14: this issue, and that the issue actually I'm not going

1540
01:27:49,575 --> 01:27:51,175
Speaker 14: to put it straight on the work of the builders

1541
01:27:51,215 --> 01:27:55,055
Speaker 14: because I don't actually think that's fair. Now, it's everybody's

1542
01:27:55,095 --> 01:27:58,095
Speaker 14: responsibility to take a little bit of ownership in this problem.

1543
01:27:58,415 --> 01:28:01,055
Speaker 14: And if you look at it in quite a holistic way,

1544
01:28:01,655 --> 01:28:05,095
Speaker 14: you've got everything from the architecture side, where you know,

1545
01:28:05,175 --> 01:28:07,855
Speaker 14: we're encouraging people to design out waste in the first

1546
01:28:07,895 --> 01:28:10,735
Speaker 14: place so it doesn't get to site. We've got the

1547
01:28:10,855 --> 01:28:13,975
Speaker 14: designers and planners their role in this too, and then

1548
01:28:14,015 --> 01:28:16,335
Speaker 14: of course for the builders. Yeah, absolutely that there are

1549
01:28:16,415 --> 01:28:20,295
Speaker 14: practical things that you can do and the resources available

1550
01:28:20,335 --> 01:28:21,095
Speaker 14: for you to be able to.

1551
01:28:21,095 --> 01:28:21,895
Speaker 4: Take that on board.

1552
01:28:22,975 --> 01:28:26,415
Speaker 14: But at the moment we don't have a national recovery

1553
01:28:26,455 --> 01:28:30,615
Speaker 14: infrastructure that serves everybody. So what's available in Auckland is

1554
01:28:30,695 --> 01:28:32,855
Speaker 14: quite different to what's available, let's say in the south

1555
01:28:32,895 --> 01:28:34,935
Speaker 14: of the South Island, and we have to be aware

1556
01:28:34,975 --> 01:28:38,095
Speaker 14: of that. And I think also an important part of

1557
01:28:38,175 --> 01:28:42,495
Speaker 14: it is thinking about if you're a homeowner, You're right,

1558
01:28:42,935 --> 01:28:46,775
Speaker 14: that's three tons is an average, and it includes construction waste,

1559
01:28:47,095 --> 01:28:50,015
Speaker 14: and not everybody's buying a new house and not everybody's renovating.

1560
01:28:50,375 --> 01:28:52,415
Speaker 14: But you know, a lot of this is about customer

1561
01:28:52,455 --> 01:28:57,175
Speaker 14: des are demand. We want good quality in expensive houses,

1562
01:28:58,175 --> 01:29:02,415
Speaker 14: and I think there's definitely a responsibility on our homeowners

1563
01:29:02,495 --> 01:29:06,015
Speaker 14: and our customers the new homes or renos to actually

1564
01:29:06,535 --> 01:29:09,335
Speaker 14: asking the question, actually, what are you doing with your waist,

1565
01:29:09,735 --> 01:29:13,975
Speaker 14: where's the waste going, and accepting that if they, you know,

1566
01:29:14,295 --> 01:29:16,655
Speaker 14: if they want to counteract the idea that we're going

1567
01:29:16,695 --> 01:29:19,135
Speaker 14: to end up with more and larger landfills and those

1568
01:29:19,215 --> 01:29:22,375
Speaker 14: costs fundamentally will come back to us, then we need

1569
01:29:22,455 --> 01:29:25,495
Speaker 14: to start asking these questions and encouraging and you know,

1570
01:29:26,215 --> 01:29:28,335
Speaker 14: asking for people to do just that little bit better.

1571
01:29:28,735 --> 01:29:31,935
Speaker 14: So I do see it as everybody's problem. I don't

1572
01:29:31,975 --> 01:29:35,295
Speaker 14: just see it as one one group. But what I

1573
01:29:35,335 --> 01:29:40,215
Speaker 14: would say is that for builders, there are some great

1574
01:29:40,255 --> 01:29:43,215
Speaker 14: resources out there that can be used. And so for

1575
01:29:43,335 --> 01:29:46,175
Speaker 14: like the last fifteen years or so, we've been working

1576
01:29:46,255 --> 01:29:49,575
Speaker 14: on what sort of waste to being produced? How can

1577
01:29:49,655 --> 01:29:52,415
Speaker 14: you separate those wastes from site, How can you get

1578
01:29:52,455 --> 01:29:55,375
Speaker 14: the best from it. We've got a website called the

1579
01:29:55,455 --> 01:29:59,175
Speaker 14: Waisthub very simply www dot waste tub, dot co dot

1580
01:29:59,295 --> 01:30:02,775
Speaker 14: nz and that wasthub gives you things that are very practical,

1581
01:30:02,975 --> 01:30:07,055
Speaker 14: like how can you set up on site separation? Can

1582
01:30:07,135 --> 01:30:10,255
Speaker 14: you explain in two minutes a short video that tells

1583
01:30:10,295 --> 01:30:13,255
Speaker 14: you about you know what to do with? Was why

1584
01:30:13,455 --> 01:30:16,855
Speaker 14: waste impacts carbon? You know, all those fundamental things, how

1585
01:30:16,935 --> 01:30:21,135
Speaker 14: to write a waste management plan. Those sorts of things

1586
01:30:21,175 --> 01:30:24,695
Speaker 14: I think are quite important. And yes, I agree some

1587
01:30:24,815 --> 01:30:27,775
Speaker 14: people are really against the waste management plan. I understand

1588
01:30:27,855 --> 01:30:31,295
Speaker 14: why because it can just be a tick box. But

1589
01:30:31,455 --> 01:30:35,775
Speaker 14: I think done well, it helps you to identify where

1590
01:30:35,895 --> 01:30:39,735
Speaker 14: you might be able to send materials, and also it

1591
01:30:39,935 --> 01:30:43,295
Speaker 14: helps you to think about, well what materials should I

1592
01:30:43,335 --> 01:30:46,855
Speaker 14: be purchasing? Should I go back to my suppliers and say, hey,

1593
01:30:46,935 --> 01:30:50,815
Speaker 14: what's the solution for this? You know, you don't want

1594
01:30:50,935 --> 01:30:55,935
Speaker 14: to be left with a big mass of offcuts that

1595
01:30:56,015 --> 01:30:59,215
Speaker 14: you can't do anything with. And we certainly see in

1596
01:30:59,255 --> 01:31:03,015
Speaker 14: ourselves at the Environmental Innovation Center, suppliers come into us

1597
01:31:03,055 --> 01:31:06,335
Speaker 14: and saying, hey, can you help us find solutions for

1598
01:31:06,415 --> 01:31:10,215
Speaker 14: our waste material And that's just so encouraging because it's

1599
01:31:10,255 --> 01:31:11,775
Speaker 14: all about finding solutions.

1600
01:31:14,455 --> 01:31:16,815
Speaker 4: I think we all accept that it does require a

1601
01:31:16,895 --> 01:31:19,415
Speaker 4: bit of effort. Right So, just from a practical point

1602
01:31:19,455 --> 01:31:22,935
Speaker 4: of view on site, if I'm running a job and

1603
01:31:23,295 --> 01:31:27,055
Speaker 4: inevitably we create some waste, the simplest thing for me

1604
01:31:27,135 --> 01:31:28,575
Speaker 4: to do is just pack it all up and throw

1605
01:31:28,575 --> 01:31:30,735
Speaker 4: it into the back of a skip and make it

1606
01:31:30,815 --> 01:31:34,775
Speaker 4: somebody else's problem. Right, So, in order not to do that,

1607
01:31:35,535 --> 01:31:39,695
Speaker 4: what sorts of things might we in terms of builders

1608
01:31:40,335 --> 01:31:43,855
Speaker 4: and trades people or homeowners who are managing a project

1609
01:31:44,215 --> 01:31:46,735
Speaker 4: and want to do the right thing basically and say

1610
01:31:46,815 --> 01:31:50,175
Speaker 4: to their builders, look, what can we do to reduce

1611
01:31:50,335 --> 01:31:53,535
Speaker 4: the amount of waste? What's the next step from there?

1612
01:31:53,615 --> 01:31:54,175
Speaker 4: What would you do?

1613
01:31:55,895 --> 01:31:58,975
Speaker 14: Okay, so use the resources that are available there. As

1614
01:31:59,015 --> 01:32:01,055
Speaker 14: I said before, there's a waste tub resources, some great

1615
01:32:01,095 --> 01:32:04,415
Speaker 14: resources from brands, so stuck for me. First of all,

1616
01:32:04,815 --> 01:32:08,095
Speaker 14: think about where you're ordering the tip from. And so

1617
01:32:08,375 --> 01:32:11,215
Speaker 14: some suppliers have got some really great solutions. So Marley's

1618
01:32:11,215 --> 01:32:13,295
Speaker 14: a good example, who have a great take back scheme

1619
01:32:13,335 --> 01:32:17,095
Speaker 14: for their pipes. There's another company, good Rap that's doing

1620
01:32:17,175 --> 01:32:19,775
Speaker 14: some great stuff with the building wrap that goes around

1621
01:32:19,815 --> 01:32:22,895
Speaker 14: the buildings and they have a great scheme which means

1622
01:32:23,215 --> 01:32:26,135
Speaker 14: you can't opt out. All of this stuff has a

1623
01:32:26,255 --> 01:32:31,015
Speaker 14: good recycling system set up, So start thinking about choosing

1624
01:32:31,055 --> 01:32:35,015
Speaker 14: suppliers that actually have that opportunity for you right there

1625
01:32:35,135 --> 01:32:38,255
Speaker 14: built into what they're doing. I think that's an important.

1626
01:32:37,855 --> 01:32:38,175
Speaker 4: Part of it.

1627
01:32:38,255 --> 01:32:41,815
Speaker 14: Look out for suppliers. The next thing you can do

1628
01:32:42,175 --> 01:32:45,295
Speaker 14: is start actually planning your waste. And one of the

1629
01:32:45,415 --> 01:32:49,135
Speaker 14: interesting things we've found about waste is that the waste

1630
01:32:49,215 --> 01:32:54,135
Speaker 14: that's produced at different building stages is very very different. So,

1631
01:32:55,095 --> 01:32:57,935
Speaker 14: I mean, it makes perfectly common sense, but what you

1632
01:32:58,055 --> 01:33:01,255
Speaker 14: actually have at that foundation stage is quite different to

1633
01:33:01,335 --> 01:33:03,255
Speaker 14: what you have at the fixtures and fit in stage

1634
01:33:03,295 --> 01:33:06,895
Speaker 14: at the end. So start thinking about what those wastes

1635
01:33:06,895 --> 01:33:08,735
Speaker 14: are lightly to be and then.

1636
01:33:08,815 --> 01:33:09,455
Speaker 9: Plan for them.

1637
01:33:10,335 --> 01:33:12,655
Speaker 14: We have lots of pictures on the waste up of

1638
01:33:13,135 --> 01:33:16,335
Speaker 14: site set ups for you know, how you can separate

1639
01:33:16,455 --> 01:33:20,975
Speaker 14: your waste in a really constrained neat way. You don't

1640
01:33:21,055 --> 01:33:24,215
Speaker 14: need lots of land. I think that's a common misconception.

1641
01:33:23,735 --> 01:33:26,055
Speaker 4: That yeah, I don't have room to separate.

1642
01:33:25,695 --> 01:33:30,295
Speaker 14: It, you know, yeah, absolutely yeah, But we've not found that.

1643
01:33:30,415 --> 01:33:33,415
Speaker 14: I mean we've been on sites everything from big commercial

1644
01:33:33,895 --> 01:33:36,695
Speaker 14: to a one house build and we've always been able

1645
01:33:36,735 --> 01:33:40,775
Speaker 14: to find space. And what's lovely about separating the waste

1646
01:33:40,895 --> 01:33:43,735
Speaker 14: like that is that often it takes less space than

1647
01:33:43,775 --> 01:33:47,095
Speaker 14: a skip. It makes your site. This is the FEEDBA

1648
01:33:47,175 --> 01:33:49,175
Speaker 14: we've had. This is not my words, but the feedb

1649
01:33:49,295 --> 01:33:53,255
Speaker 14: we've had has been it actually makes your site tidier.

1650
01:33:53,255 --> 01:33:55,575
Speaker 10: Because you're clearing up as you go, you're.

1651
01:33:55,455 --> 01:33:57,815
Speaker 14: Putting it in the right place. And if you can

1652
01:33:58,095 --> 01:34:04,295
Speaker 14: do that and you can capture good quality offcuts and

1653
01:34:04,455 --> 01:34:10,055
Speaker 14: waste that's not too dirty, than your opportunities and recycling

1654
01:34:10,295 --> 01:34:12,735
Speaker 14: are just so much better one hundred percent.

1655
01:34:12,815 --> 01:34:15,735
Speaker 4: And I had the opportunity to go to a sort

1656
01:34:15,775 --> 01:34:19,335
Speaker 4: of a diversion sorting center a little while ago, and

1657
01:34:19,415 --> 01:34:21,735
Speaker 4: the guys, you know, the was tipped out or the

1658
01:34:21,815 --> 01:34:24,215
Speaker 4: materials being tipped out, and then they're fosking through it

1659
01:34:24,255 --> 01:34:26,295
Speaker 4: and there's you know, they're grabbing little bits of cardboard,

1660
01:34:26,295 --> 01:34:29,575
Speaker 4: and I'm thinking, hang on, how why not on site

1661
01:34:29,935 --> 01:34:32,615
Speaker 4: you just get a wall bag and fill that up

1662
01:34:32,655 --> 01:34:34,975
Speaker 4: with your cardboard offcuts, right, and then you take that

1663
01:34:35,055 --> 01:34:37,655
Speaker 4: to your local recycling center rather than allowing it to

1664
01:34:37,975 --> 01:34:40,855
Speaker 4: enter the waste stream and then be pulled out somewhere else.

1665
01:34:40,935 --> 01:34:44,415
Speaker 4: So that that's that kind of simple practical solutions as

1666
01:34:44,495 --> 01:34:46,375
Speaker 4: we go through. I've got to take a break. But

1667
01:34:46,495 --> 01:34:50,295
Speaker 4: this is a classic text that's just come in. We

1668
01:34:50,495 --> 01:34:53,015
Speaker 4: disposed of all of our building waste on our new build,

1669
01:34:53,215 --> 01:34:56,255
Speaker 4: so this must be the owners taking responsibility for the

1670
01:34:56,295 --> 01:34:59,815
Speaker 4: waste from their site reused or otherwise recycled. Took all

1671
01:34:59,855 --> 01:35:03,535
Speaker 4: the polystyrene to a local factory, saved heaps on a

1672
01:35:03,655 --> 01:35:06,095
Speaker 4: skip so we might come back and have a look

1673
01:35:06,095 --> 01:35:07,695
Speaker 4: at it. That isn't that a great text?

1674
01:35:07,815 --> 01:35:08,015
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1675
01:35:09,335 --> 01:35:11,695
Speaker 4: Yeah with me this morning is doctor Terry and Barry.

1676
01:35:11,775 --> 01:35:14,575
Speaker 4: We're talking about waste. I guess you'd say we're talking

1677
01:35:14,575 --> 01:35:16,895
Speaker 4: about rubbish, but it's not. It's a resource. We'll be

1678
01:35:16,975 --> 01:35:17,575
Speaker 4: back after the.

1679
01:35:17,575 --> 01:35:21,775
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Speaker 4: an email away. Search you do it. That's U d

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Speaker 4: UI T and see why their customers are proud to

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Speaker 4: say I did it myself. News talk z B right

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Speaker 4: oh with me this morning, Doctor Terry and Bury from

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Speaker 4: the Auckland University of Technology, where you are a lecturer,

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01:36:43,455 --> 01:36:44,935
Speaker 4: as well as a whole bunch of other things that

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Speaker 4: you seem to be involved with. The just before you

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01:36:48,575 --> 01:36:51,775
Speaker 4: know the last part the Environmental Innovation Center that you're

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01:36:51,935 --> 01:36:54,295
Speaker 4: part of, and I know Nigel's part of the team

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01:36:54,455 --> 01:37:00,655
Speaker 4: as well. What's the what's the drive behind that particular organization?

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Speaker 14: The drive really came from waste, from observing just how

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01:37:08,175 --> 01:37:11,455
Speaker 14: much waste was being produced, and particularly from the construction sector.

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Speaker 14: As you know, Nigel's master builder president for Auckland, so

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Speaker 14: you know he was very aware of it and we

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01:37:16,335 --> 01:37:18,895
Speaker 14: actually met on a site and it was one of

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01:37:19,015 --> 01:37:22,015
Speaker 14: his sites and he really wanted to find a solution.

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Speaker 14: He was just overseeing all the waste go into the

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Speaker 14: skip and out to landfill. So we do a lot

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01:37:28,495 --> 01:37:31,935
Speaker 14: around waste. We do we look at hazardous waste like asbestos,

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01:37:31,975 --> 01:37:34,975
Speaker 14: and we also do indoor equality. But really for us,

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Speaker 14: I think a lot of it is about being independent,

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01:37:39,175 --> 01:37:43,135
Speaker 14: giving advice and bringing people together because I think when

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01:37:43,215 --> 01:37:45,855
Speaker 14: we're working together, I know it sounds a bit corny,

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01:37:46,055 --> 01:37:49,615
Speaker 14: but when we're working together, we're actually developing solutions. And

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Speaker 14: those solutions may well come from the construction sector itself,

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01:37:53,775 --> 01:37:57,055
Speaker 14: it may come from academia, but if it's coming from academia,

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01:37:57,095 --> 01:38:00,175
Speaker 14: we're very passionate about making sure that it's practical and

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01:38:00,255 --> 01:38:03,255
Speaker 14: it actually works and it's feasible on site. So I

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01:38:03,335 --> 01:38:06,535
Speaker 14: think it's taking some of those innovations and making sure

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Speaker 14: that they work and you know, they're set for purpose

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Speaker 14: for the construction sector.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's really important to you know, given

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Speaker 4: that we've in general, we've got this massive problem around

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01:38:15,895 --> 01:38:17,695
Speaker 4: what do we do with waste because we treat it

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01:38:17,735 --> 01:38:20,815
Speaker 4: as waste rather than resource and so on and so forth.

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Speaker 4: And given that construction contributes way, you know, like our

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Speaker 4: contribution to the amount is far bigger than our contribution

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Speaker 4: to the economy, is how I look at it. So

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Speaker 4: you know, we're punching above our weight in the worst

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Speaker 4: possible way. So I think it makes sense to focus

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Speaker 4: on the construction sector and go what could you do?

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Speaker 4: And I think too once you dive into it, this

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Speaker 4: is from a practical point of view. From my perspective,

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01:38:49,935 --> 01:38:54,695
Speaker 4: is that there is actually lots of achievable things that

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Speaker 4: you can do. And yes, it's a bit of effort,

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01:38:57,615 --> 01:38:59,815
Speaker 4: but it's not that much effort, right, And to your

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01:38:59,895 --> 01:39:05,335
Speaker 4: point about separating materials on site or choosing wisely from

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01:39:05,775 --> 01:39:10,055
Speaker 4: wech and designing in less waste rather than kind of

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Speaker 4: dealing with it.

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Speaker 14: At the end, yeah, absolutely, And I think that's all

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01:39:14,935 --> 01:39:17,495
Speaker 14: part of what we're trying to do here. We're accepting

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01:39:17,615 --> 01:39:20,575
Speaker 14: that there are lots of different opportunities. We've got the

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01:39:20,655 --> 01:39:23,455
Speaker 14: design out, we've got the reuse. We've got the recycling,

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01:39:23,815 --> 01:39:25,695
Speaker 14: but not all of those are going to work. And look,

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01:39:26,055 --> 01:39:29,175
Speaker 14: we're pragmatic enough to say that there are some materials

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01:39:29,255 --> 01:39:31,415
Speaker 14: that are going to end up in landfill. We upset that.

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Speaker 14: But you know, at the end of the day, sixty

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01:39:34,455 --> 01:39:38,095
Speaker 14: to seventy percent waste to landfill from CND is huge,

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01:39:38,655 --> 01:39:40,975
Speaker 14: and we can do better. We can save resources, but

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01:39:41,215 --> 01:39:44,655
Speaker 14: more importantly, we can be saving money in this space.

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Speaker 14: And there are some really great solutions out there, and

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Speaker 14: I'm just going to mention a few more because I

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01:39:50,255 --> 01:39:52,575
Speaker 14: think they're important. So you know, if you're if you're

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Speaker 14: a larger building group, then MOUTU is a fabulous way

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Speaker 14: of being able to share and reuse resources across your

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01:40:00,735 --> 01:40:05,495
Speaker 14: different sites, which is brilliant. There's ways of managing your data.

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Speaker 14: There's a company called Waste Expert that are doing some

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Speaker 14: great stuff on data management and looking at how much

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Speaker 14: you're producing and where you might make those savings. I

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01:40:16,215 --> 01:40:20,575
Speaker 14: think there's also opportunities for people to, you know, to

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01:40:20,735 --> 01:40:25,295
Speaker 14: really feel safe that they're making good decisions and feel

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Speaker 14: that they're not being greenwashed. They're not going to end

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Speaker 14: up with somebody saying, oh, we're putting it here, but

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Speaker 14: actually it's really going to learn and there are things

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Speaker 14: that you can do in that space. So we've actually

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Speaker 14: just created a certification called Circular Path. It's the Plastic

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Speaker 14: Waste because we recognize that plastic waste doesn't contribute a

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Speaker 14: massive amount of mass to your SKIP and it's that

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Speaker 14: mass that you're charged to prompt and so we've set

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Speaker 14: up this certification, and again it's about really encouraging and

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01:40:56,655 --> 01:41:00,095
Speaker 14: showing people, well, where do I look to find solutions,

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01:41:01,175 --> 01:41:02,935
Speaker 14: how do I put them in place on site? How

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01:41:02,975 --> 01:41:05,255
Speaker 14: do I set up my site separation to keep my

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01:41:05,375 --> 01:41:10,735
Speaker 14: product really clean and really reusable or recyclable, And you know,

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01:41:10,815 --> 01:41:12,375
Speaker 14: we'll go out and check and make sure that this

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01:41:12,535 --> 01:41:14,895
Speaker 14: is happening, and so people will then learn that this

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01:41:15,055 --> 01:41:17,375
Speaker 14: is something that they can trust and we're not the

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Speaker 14: only one that ours is the only one that's looking

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Speaker 14: at plastics. So as a customer, and I'm just about

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Speaker 14: my own renos down and I've said to my builders

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Speaker 14: on site, right, I'd like my site separation. They're probably

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Speaker 14: really gutted about that, but you know, I know what

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Speaker 14: I want to ask. And so when our windows come out,

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01:41:35,935 --> 01:41:38,895
Speaker 14: we will take them to the community resource centers. Remember

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01:41:39,655 --> 01:41:44,055
Speaker 14: that they're brilliant places. If it's just simply that actually, no,

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Speaker 14: the window doesn't fit the house anymore. It's not what

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Speaker 14: I want. I want to change it, and we get that.

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01:41:48,535 --> 01:41:52,575
Speaker 14: You know, we've still got to live. But in this instance,

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Speaker 14: donate them. You know, they could end up really helping

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01:41:55,175 --> 01:41:57,895
Speaker 14: somebody else out rather than just putting them in landfill.

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Speaker 4: And I think often my impression now is often when

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Speaker 4: confronted with us and people go, it's hard, and then

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Speaker 4: you go to them extrall it's a little bit of work,

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Speaker 4: but not as much as you think, because this works,

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Speaker 4: this works, this works, here's a solution, here's a solution.

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Speaker 4: So you know, every I think typically our responses art's

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Speaker 4: too hard, it just isn't There are solutions for that.

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Speaker 4: I want to point people again to the wasst hub

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Speaker 4: dot co dot nz site. So if you're a homeowner

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01:42:26,535 --> 01:42:28,775
Speaker 4: and you're thinking about doing a renovation, you don't know

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01:42:28,815 --> 01:42:30,655
Speaker 4: where to start in terms of managing your waste, have

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01:42:30,695 --> 01:42:32,615
Speaker 4: a look at that. If you're a contractor like me

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01:42:33,255 --> 01:42:36,255
Speaker 4: and you're sort of interested in doing the right thing again,

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01:42:36,375 --> 01:42:39,095
Speaker 4: have a look at that waste hub site. It's really practical,

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01:42:39,255 --> 01:42:42,735
Speaker 4: really straightforward, and it's going to make a difference. This

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Speaker 4: is construction, demolition, waste Awareness Week. I suppose there's so

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Speaker 4: really please we could start with a conversation with you, Terry,

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Speaker 4: and really looking forward to talking with Mark Roberts from

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Speaker 4: Auckland Council next week on the show. And again, if

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01:42:57,535 --> 01:43:00,655
Speaker 4: people want to know more, check out the waste Hub site.

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Speaker 4: There's so much good. Resource Brands does some great stuff.

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Speaker 4: You guys at the Environmental Innovation Center, you do some

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Speaker 4: great stuff. So again my thanks to you. Really appreciated

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Speaker 4: your time this morning, my pleasure. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 4: take care Bob. Rightio, let's jump into the garden where

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Speaker 4: if you created a great pile of waste like I

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01:43:23,655 --> 01:43:28,575
Speaker 4: did not waste resource. After trimming the hedges, taking out

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01:43:28,615 --> 01:43:31,135
Speaker 4: some plants, what else did we do? Do a bit

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Speaker 4: of weeding? I had the trailer full at Winton. It's

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Speaker 4: all recyclable, right it, screen mate, it's all recyclable. Let's

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Speaker 4: talk with Thrud about all things in the garden. Back

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Speaker 4: in a moment.

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