1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Barry Soper, Senior political correspondent, rapping the political week that 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: was welcome back. 3 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 2: Barry, Hello again. 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: What did I say? What did I say? The Greens 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: were going to regret taking her on because she will 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: actually win in the. 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: Well, well, she won't win in the end. 8 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: She will make it hard for. 9 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: I said earlier. She won't win in the end. 10 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: She will make it hard for that. 11 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: But as I've said all along too, that they will 12 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: use the Wacker jumping legislation, and that's what they are doing. Normally, 13 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: you'd have to give somebody like Darlen Tana twenty one 14 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: days notice and give her that twenty one days to 15 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: decide on what she's going to do. But she usurped 16 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: them by going to the Court of Appeal. The Court 17 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: of Appeal has accepted her decision, so her case, yes, sorry, 18 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: her case, it's all up in the air now and 19 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: that's the problem. So I would imagine, as I said earlier, 20 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: don't expect her to walk on Tuesday. So she's padded 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: it out for a bit longer. Made it even more 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 2: all embarrassing for the Greens, even though Chloe Swarbrick came 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: out very impressive and said that you know, we had 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,279 Speaker 2: to eat humble pie. We're back down, and of course 25 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: they had to eat humble pie. Of course this was 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 2: going to happen in the end. But I'll tell you 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: what the central ingredient to this whole story. The full 28 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: report on Darlentana. 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: Has not to be released. And what did I say 30 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: to you at the very start of all of this, Berry, 31 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: I am very suspicious of that. I want to see 32 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: that report. 33 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: Why if I have the courage of their conviction, this 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: wonderful Green Party, why haven't we seen the color of 35 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: that report. We've seen the executive summary. Yeah, but as 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: we know, and many reports that are written in this place, 37 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: executive summaries are not enough. You've got to marry between 38 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: the lines. 39 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm loath to raise this with you because you know 40 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: you've got a dodgy ticker. But you want to talk 41 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: about just Sinda again. 42 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: Well, I found an entry that Jasinda Dern, who's a 43 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: die was was I say, a die hard Republican goes 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: to her mate, Prince William to get her knighthood, knighthood 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: obviously bestowed by her Labor Party colleagues before they were 46 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: thrown out of office at the last election and didn't 47 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: even have the common decency to come back and get 48 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: it come here to Government House. Perhaps she felt too 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: guilty in receiving it. Nevertheless, she's accepted the accolade and 50 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: well now I'll go around the world, no doubt using it. 51 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: Mark Sainsbury's on the huddle with me yesterday, and he 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: made such an excellent point where he says to me, yes, saying, 53 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: so this is what he said. He said, Remember, Helen 54 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: Clark never took it right, and it's a rite of passage. 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: They all say that there was a right of passage 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: for primary business. Yes, okay, but Helen never took it 57 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: because Helen was a woman of principle. And the contrast 58 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: between Helen the woman of principles and justinto the flake 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: could not be greater than on the subject. 60 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: Right, Absolutely, that's very true that Clark always declared herself 61 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: a Republican. Remember she was told off, strictly told off 62 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: for wearing trousers in front of the Queen when she 63 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: is at a banquet at the Beehive, and for goodness, 64 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: say there was a slack suit as they called it 65 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: in those days. And you know, I thought she was 66 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 2: perfectly entitled to wear it, but all the royalists said 67 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: it's an insult. 68 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: But the point is she had the courage the pointers. 69 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: If you want, if you want people to respect you, 70 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: behave like Helen right, have some principles. Look, do you 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: think do you think have you thought much about whether 72 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Chris Luxen is out of touch or something else is 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: going on here? 74 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: No? I don't think he's out of touch. I think 75 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: you know, the poor buggers tried as hard as he 76 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: possibly can to relate to the public. And I wrote 77 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: a column I think several weeks ago saying that he's 78 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: got to learn to be more relatable to the public. 79 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: And the problem is because the media are fixated on 80 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: this man's wealth, as they are with Old Albow buying 81 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: his cliff top mansion in Australia. I mean, if you 82 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: had a prime minister that was penniless, he would be 83 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: praised for getting where he is. 84 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: To wealth is the problem because he wasn't a problem 85 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: for JK. 86 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. But then he made fun of his 87 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 2: wealth and you know, he was more of a joker 88 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: than what he's more earnest and his boardroom earnest, and 89 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 2: that's the problem. But if you look at the opinion 90 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: polls in terms of preferred prime minister, I mean he's 91 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: very low down at twenty five percent. That was down 92 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: three points on the TV one Valerian pole. But then 93 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: you look at Valerian Varian Varian Valerian. I think some 94 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: people need it, isn't it. And if you look at 95 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: Chris Hopkins, the man who has put one thousand dollars 96 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: on it this week that he'll be the prime minister 97 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: after the next election, I think he's got to read 98 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: the polls, not only his own personal polls, but those 99 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 2: of the Labor Party as well. The notion that they'll 100 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: be back at the next election is fanciful. 101 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Barry, thank you very much. 102 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. 103 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: Barry so for senior political correspondentrapping the week that was. 104 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 105 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 106 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.