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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southerby's international realty, local and

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Speaker 2: A journalist clear Dolores with us this evening. Good evening

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Speaker 2: to you, good evening, right and Marris Williams and Aukland

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Speaker 2: councilor good evening, former minister, good evening, Good to have

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Speaker 2: you both here. The government box opening today. Look, Nicola

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Speaker 2: Willis's is basically keeping on with the spending and not

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Speaker 2: making huge cuts. She's got an eye of the election obviously,

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Speaker 2: Marris doesn't. She can't cut too hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I disagree. I think you have to take quite

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Speaker 3: severe medicine to try and fix the patient here. I

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Speaker 3: was part of the incoming national government of nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: where we did the mother of all budgets with Ruth.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty tough stuff. We were hated by people,

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Speaker 3: we were told you'll never see the light of day

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Speaker 3: again and as a government, and within two and a

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Speaker 3: half years of that budget, the economy had recovered so well,

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Speaker 3: things were going so right. We actually got re elected

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Speaker 3: only just, but we got re elected. I think if

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Speaker 3: you just do the modest stuff that's been done right now,

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Speaker 3: the pain pursuit prolongs it prolongs it for some time.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that this will clear silence that, you know,

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Speaker 2: the people who want the super sized to need in

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Speaker 2: hospital and the bigger fairies and everything. Do you think

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Speaker 2: this is going to be enough to silence those critics?

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Speaker 4: No, I think we have such a polarized population now.

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Speaker 4: There are people who just want to carry on as

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Speaker 4: we have been and will not accept that actually that

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Speaker 4: isn't an option. And then there are those like Morris

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Speaker 4: who would go for deeper and deeper cuts. And I

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Speaker 4: guess I am predictably because I'm a centrist somewhere in

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Speaker 4: the middle, because I think what the government is at

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Speaker 4: the moment flailing about with is showing where it's leading

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Speaker 4: and giving people any sort of optimism for the future.

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Speaker 4: Business confidence is really low, and if you ask people

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Speaker 4: you know about their intentions for the future, even really

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Speaker 4: sort of some smaller successful businesses, they're not banking on

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Speaker 4: being around next year.

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Speaker 2: So it's come back, I mean, business sentiment has come

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Speaker 2: back somewhat, but it's not you know, through the roof.

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Speaker 3: But Ryan, if you take a country that was a

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Speaker 3: way bigger basket case than us by a million miles, Argentina,

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Speaker 3: their new president's got in and said this stops now.

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Speaker 2: And he's rips. But you can't compare. I saw Houghton's

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Speaker 2: column on this, and you can't.

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Speaker 4: They're not apples and apples, and in living memory they

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Speaker 4: have been right. They've been right to the bottom in

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Speaker 4: living memory for many of them. And I think you

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Speaker 4: know that we are sort of different countries. They've been

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Speaker 4: through dictatorships, for example, and we have not been there percent.

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Speaker 3: But you could learn something from what they're doing. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's gone and he's told every minister. I love this.

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Speaker 3: If any minister in his cabinet ever goes out and

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Speaker 3: tells people that service is free, they'll be sacked. They've

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Speaker 3: got to go out and say the taxpayer is funding

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Speaker 3: that service for you.

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Speaker 2: Guys. Will be back in just a second. Our huddle

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Speaker 2: for tonight cleared the Law and Marris Williamson's.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Elevate the

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Speaker 2: Home fourteen away from sex news talks. He'd be clear

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Speaker 2: to the lawd journalist and Marris Williamson, Aorkland councilor former

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Speaker 2: minister with us good evening back well, well, come back

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Speaker 2: to both of you. Let's go to Wellington. So yesterday

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Speaker 2: the Government says, comes out and bangs its big stack

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Speaker 2: and says, don't do anything that's you know, don't mark around,

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Speaker 2: don't waste your time, get back to the basics and

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Speaker 2: do things properly. And today Wellington City Council comes out

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Speaker 2: and says we're going to make a submission on the

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Speaker 2: Government's Treaty Principals Bill. Clear do you think that's a

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Speaker 2: good use of time.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I think it's a waste of time and money.

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Speaker 4: The bill is not going to progress any further, and

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Speaker 4: it doesn't mean there isn't going to be some sort

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Speaker 4: of agenda and you know, sort of platform that's built

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Speaker 4: up on the back of it. However, I think for

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Speaker 4: the council to do that, Wellington Council seems to be

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Speaker 4: are they begging for a commissioner to be put in

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Speaker 4: at some stage? It's still looking pretty rough there. I

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Speaker 4: think they've got, you know, a chance to show that

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Speaker 4: they're really serious about Wellington. They've got buildings sitting there rotting,

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Speaker 4: waiting for things to happen. There's still water popping up

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Speaker 4: out of the foot paths occasionally get on with the

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Speaker 4: basic jobs. I really think it is wasteful and they've.

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Speaker 2: Got I say, you saw today they had Sam Neil

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Speaker 2: Did you see that? Morris?

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Speaker 3: I mean, can I talk about Auckland Council because we

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Speaker 3: did something worse than that. The paper that came to

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Speaker 3: us as counselors was that we make a submission on

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Speaker 3: the Treaty Principal's Bill, which I was quite flummixed by

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Speaker 3: what the hell are we doing that? Why aren't we

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Speaker 3: fixing roads and foot paths and so on? But at

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Speaker 3: least it was neutral. And then the Chairman put to

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Speaker 3: us finally an amended paper on the day that we

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Speaker 3: oppose not just put a submission, but we oppose the

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Speaker 3: Treaty Principal's Bill, and several of us fought against it

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Speaker 3: but lost. And so now Aukland Council have got staff

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Speaker 3: working away developing up a submission on a.

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Speaker 2: Postal that's going nowhere correct?

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Speaker 3: And what's that got to do with us any rate?

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Speaker 3: Our role? And I love the way the governments come

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Speaker 3: up with getting your role and function sorted. You're actually

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Speaker 3: there to do a whole range of things, water and

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Speaker 3: wastewater and foot paths and parks and do you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: They're too hard. They're just too hard. So this is

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Speaker 4: sort of like an easy an easy swipe.

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Speaker 2: Plus I have a theory that there's a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: of people who sort of wish they were running the world.

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Speaker 2: They wish they were working at the United Nations instead

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Speaker 2: of in some Security Council meeting, but actually they're just

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Speaker 2: running the white matar board.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like, get over yourselves. You don't need to have

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Speaker 2: an opinion on everything.

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Speaker 3: And we've had several people try to move emotions about Gaza.

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Speaker 3: Now Gaza is ghastly and awful and so on. It's

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Speaker 3: got nothing to do with Auckland Council.

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Speaker 2: Go and fix a pipe for goodness, that's correct. Hey,

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Speaker 2: lots to talk about. We've just heard from Erica Stamford

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Speaker 2: on migrants. But I want to get to SPQR for

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Speaker 2: those who aren't familiar. It's a bit of an institution,

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Speaker 2: would you say, in Auckland a restaurant and they've announced

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Speaker 2: the new name for SPQR, which is an iconic name,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I certainly learned about it once I

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Speaker 2: moved here. The new name is Jacuzzi.

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Speaker 4: Clear well, first of all, big ups to these young

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Speaker 4: women who are restarting. There was never my cup of

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Speaker 4: tea actually, but there you go.

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Speaker 2: But I think.

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Speaker 4: Jacuzzi it's got a kind of a wisty vibe about it,

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Speaker 4: don't you think? You know, it could have been from

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Speaker 4: you know, from some soap opera set in the West.

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Speaker 3: Okay, quiz question what did speak? And it's Roman? And

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Speaker 3: I it was on their signs and their banners. What

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Speaker 3: does it actually stand for?

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Speaker 2: Have no idea.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's to do with the triumphant of the nation

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Speaker 3: in Latin.

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Speaker 2: But it's Jacuzzi. Sounds like somewhere you go to get

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Speaker 2: a rash, you know.

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Speaker 3: Well that may be, we don't.

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Speaker 4: I think we honestly, seriously, apart from the dread well,

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Speaker 4: I think it is a pretty dreadful name. I do

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Speaker 4: wish them well. So it's a brave move. You've got

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Speaker 4: to say, God on you for having a go, because

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Speaker 4: this climate is not good for them. But you know,

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Speaker 4: the names a little bit of a hard cell, but

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Speaker 4: it works. Let's go support it.

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Speaker 2: And actually there's a number now. I think that's the

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Speaker 2: third bar I've read about in the last month that

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Speaker 2: is opening in central Auckland, which is a wonderful thing

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Speaker 2: to hear about, because I mean you look at Wellington

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Speaker 2: and even in Auckland there are places where bars are

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Speaker 2: still closing.

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Speaker 3: Morris speak, I had such a name. I've been there

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Speaker 3: several times and had such a shock me wonderful and

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Speaker 3: I just don't were they not allowed to carry on

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Speaker 3: using that name?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, good question. Actually I'm not sure whether I

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Speaker 2: think if.

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Speaker 4: You're starting afresh, you're starting a fresh I reckon, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I reckon.

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Speaker 3: What lots of people take over restaurants and keep their

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Speaker 3: name when they moved to new ownership.

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Speaker 4: Well, Morris, when you and I are in the business,

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Speaker 4: let's show them.

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Speaker 3: We will show them how to do it.

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Speaker 2: Will you go to Jacuzzie.

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Speaker 3: Not after the idea about catching a rash? No, that's

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Speaker 3: scared the hell of me.

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Speaker 2: If I haven't done any brand damage, clear, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Well, they say it's going to be immersive, it's going

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Speaker 4: to have it. So I'm wondering, is there going to

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Speaker 4: be like a little pool there? Who knows all right.

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Speaker 2: Clear, Thank you very much for coming and lovely to

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Speaker 2: meet you. Clear to the Lord, journalist and Morris Williamson,

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Speaker 2: Auckland counselor.

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