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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack tam podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack tame and bpuret dot co dot

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Speaker 2: What in New Zealand? Good morning, Welcome to news doorgs EDB.

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Speaker 2: Jacktamee with you through the midday today. So this time

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Speaker 2: next week, at exactly this time next week when we

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Speaker 2: are speaking this time next week, the opening ceremony of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four Olympic Games will just have finished.

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Speaker 2: And this morning on Newstalks EDB, we want to get

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Speaker 2: you prepared for the Olympic Game. So how are we

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Speaker 2: doing it? Well, very simply, we're doing it with nutrition

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Speaker 2: before ten o'clock, the kind of nutrition to get you

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Speaker 2: in optimal shape for the games. That is, of course,

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Speaker 2: an apple and BlackBerry sheep pancake. Yes, cake is the

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Speaker 2: kind of nutrition you will need to prepare for these games.

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Speaker 2: And then after ten o'clock this morning. Really really looking

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Speaker 2: forward to this, Dame Valerie Adams is with us in studio.

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Speaker 2: Get this. This will be the first Olympic Games since

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Speaker 2: the Sydney Olympics that Dame Bell is not competing, So

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Speaker 2: this is the first time since the Sydney Olympics in

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Speaker 2: the year two thousand that Dame Bell is not going

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Speaker 2: to be throwing a shot put. So she's gonna be

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Speaker 2: with us in studio as she prepares to fly out

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Speaker 2: for Paris. Right now it is eight minutes past nine

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Speaker 2: Jeck team. Apart from my beautiful wife, of course, the

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Speaker 2: last person I thought of before I dozed off last

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Speaker 2: night was Dave Day had texted me a few hours

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Speaker 2: earlier when I was filling in for Heather on Newstork's

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Speaker 2: off to fill up the car with petrol and he

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Speaker 2: had encountered a bit of a problem. Dave explained that

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Speaker 2: he'd filled the tank, but as he walked over to

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Speaker 2: accounts in order to pay for his petrol, his internet

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Speaker 2: banking wouldn't work, so there he was stranded waiting for

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Speaker 2: an enormous global technology outage to be sorted so that

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Speaker 2: he could transfer the cash, pay for his fuel and

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Speaker 2: finally get back home. Although some of the tech outages

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Speaker 2: seemed to have been fixed, they are still affecting thousands

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Speaker 2: upon thousands of significant operations around the world this morning. Airports, airlines, hospitals,

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Speaker 2: emergency call centers, TV and radio stations, banks. Who's to

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Speaker 2: say Dave isn't still out there madly swiping at his phone,

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Speaker 2: refreshing a blank page on his Internet banking waiting, still waiting.

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Speaker 2: The outage, of course, was caused by this company, crowd Strike.

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Speaker 2: It's a cybersecurity company which is ironically charged with protecting

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Speaker 2: its clients. And there is no reporting at this stage

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Speaker 2: to suggest that this problem was caused by like a

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Speaker 2: malicious act or a cyber attack, anything like that. It's

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Speaker 2: just a plain old mistake, a plain old error, and

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Speaker 2: already some experts are describing it as the single largest

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Speaker 2: IT outage in history. Quote this is what Y two

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Speaker 2: K wishes it was, someone said on redit. Tell you what, though,

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Speaker 2: it is a salient reminder just how fragile and interconnected

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Speaker 2: many of our modern digital systems really are. A see.

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Speaker 2: I would describe myself as being kind of mid tier

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Speaker 2: I back up my data on the cloud, I use

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Speaker 2: Apple Pay on my phone, and I absolutely abhor cash.

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Speaker 2: I hate cash notes, coins seriously. In twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: all of that clutter, Ugh, I want to go about

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Speaker 2: my business with the fewest things possible. I don't think

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Speaker 2: I've had a wallet that was actually capable of carrying

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Speaker 2: hard currency in at least fifteen years. But if the

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Speaker 2: last thing I thought of before I hit the hay

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Speaker 2: last night was poor old Dave, miserable in the dim

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Speaker 2: thing I thought of this morning was how to avoid

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Speaker 2: Dave's predicament. On the way to the studio, I stopped

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Speaker 2: by an eightm and withdrew a few hundred dollars in cash,

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Speaker 2: not a crazy amount, just enough for a tank of gas.

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Speaker 2: Jack D ninety two ninety two is our text number.

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Speaker 2: If you're gonna fit me a text, don't forget the

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Speaker 2: standard text costs. Supply you can email me as well.

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Speaker 2: Jack at NEWSTALKZEDB dot co dot nz. Heaps of awesome

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Speaker 2: sport on at the moment, as well as the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be looking at the All Backs chances this

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Speaker 2: afternoon two thirty. This afternoon, of course, they are taking

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Speaker 2: on Fiji in San Diego, of all places. I was

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Speaker 2: scathing about this at first. I thought, Oh, for goodness sake,

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Speaker 2: this is just a this is just a grab for

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Speaker 2: been persuaded to maybe temper my attitude just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: After all, the next Roby World Cup I think, has

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Speaker 2: the All Backs versus Fiji in the North American summer

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Speaker 2: is gonna hopefully mean some fast, free flowing rugby. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: we'll look at that very shortly. Right now, it is

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Speaker 2: thirteen minutes past nine. Kevin, Melon's gonna kick us off next.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jack Tame. This is news Dog's EDB A litle.

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Speaker 1: Bit of way to kick off you weekend, then with

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Speaker 2: Here's some feedback. We can all agree with Jack. You're

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Speaker 2: a fool. Yeah, Cash is King Jack a great reminder,

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Speaker 2: you've always got to have access to cash, Jack, I

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Speaker 2: always have cash. I keep one hundred dollars in my

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Speaker 2: car just in case twenty dollar notes. And here's a

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Speaker 2: really good point from Hamish. One thing that's spun out

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Speaker 2: to three hundred dollars stashed for such things. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for your feedback. Yeah, I mean that is just kind

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Speaker 2: of I don't know. It's not that I know that

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Speaker 2: I've been lazy necessarily, but I've just kind of taken

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Speaker 2: all you need is a quick check out outage, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're stuck right your strandard like

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Speaker 2: Dave and they live in petrol Station fore court, desperately

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Speaker 2: hoping that some technology on the other side of the

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Speaker 2: world is going to be upgraded sometime soon. Flip me

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Speaker 2: a text if you want. Ninety two ninety two is

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Speaker 2: our text this morning. Kevin Milne is with us. Kevin,

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Speaker 2: did you get hit by the outage at all?

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Speaker 4: I was hit by a few red wines.

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Speaker 2: Actually very good. Nothing was slowing you down. It's actually

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Speaker 2: amazing just to look at all of the different businesses

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Speaker 2: it's affected. But keep in mind that this wasn't a

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Speaker 2: malicious attack, so somewhere there has probably been some human era,

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Speaker 2: and yet it's still able to cause, you know, incredible

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Speaker 2: great story about the late great Norm Hewit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was said this week hearing of the passing

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Speaker 4: of course, wasn't he an All Black sokker who could

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Speaker 4: win dance starts? Just unbelievable, remarkable. But I thought i'd

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Speaker 4: tell you my story. I was found watching my son

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Speaker 4: Jake playing rugby for Paraparomu College, and before the game started,

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Speaker 4: asked our lads that they'd be interested in his coming

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Speaker 4: He said the team he had been with wasn't particularly

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Speaker 4: It was all right for someone of Norm's muscle to

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Speaker 4: parents might. But it didn't happen for years after Jack.

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Speaker 4: Whenever I knocked into Norm, you'd asked me, has Jake

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Speaker 4: neat guy. Indolences to his wife Arlene and the fun out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really lovely story, Kevin.

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Speaker 5: I love that.

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Speaker 2: I love that he passed on the dark arts because

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Speaker 2: I think can appreciate that there are a few dark

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Speaker 4: Can I just also just add that in my neighborhood

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Speaker 4: at the Auckland Commonwealth Games and nineteen ninety so condolences

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Speaker 4: to his wife Maria and the family.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Kevin. You take here and we

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Speaker 2: will catch you again very soon. Kevin Milne there with

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Speaker 2: us this morning. Thank you for your messages. Jack. I

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Speaker 2: abhor hard cash. So what you say, So what you

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Speaker 2: say now, Jack? Well, I say that I went to

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Speaker 2: was much more common to carry cash. I think it's

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Speaker 2: that has marked a really significant transition, right And from

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Speaker 2: what I've seen, a lot of people were still able

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Speaker 2: to pay with their phones during this outage. However, it

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Speaker 2: was actually accessing internet banking which was causing some problems.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think there is a lot to be

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Speaker 2: said for having a little bit of cash on hand, Jack.

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Speaker 2: I recently had a card glitch. After I filled up

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Speaker 2: the cash. How nice was that? Cash is still king? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that is really nice. I wonder if you had to

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Speaker 5: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 2: I missed what happened to Dave. Well, I don't know

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Speaker 2: But if Dave's listening, please Dave send us a TEXTA

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Speaker 2: this morning, Jack. I'm eighty years old. I worked in

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Speaker 2: are you? Yeah? Very good things. Massive sporting weekend. We

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Speaker 2: Oh Save you're breaking up there. You were breaking up there.

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Speaker 2: Sav you're back. Sorry you both out there, but I

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Speaker 2: Now, I've well said thanks v catch us soon Andrews

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Speaker 2: She has spent the last two years playing a weekend

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your feedback, Jack. Cash is also good

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Speaker 2: for budgeting, says Peter. It makes it easier to track

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Speaker 2: I'm all about convenience, Peter, and that's what got me

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Speaker 2: She's here with us this morning. Killed her. Did you

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Speaker 9: Sammies in the last night and watched Chalie Jacks the

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Speaker 9: whole wood and all have all revolved around me and I.

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Speaker 6: Have no idea what was going on.

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Speaker 2: Very good, Oh, very good, please to hear it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: two different films this morning. Let's start off by having

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Speaker 2: a little listen to a film that is showing in

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Speaker 2: cinemas at the moment. This is Horizon.

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Speaker 7: These people think are toughness, smartness, I mean enough. Oh,

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Speaker 7: this will be there someday. Don't army of this earth.

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Speaker 7: It's going to stop those wagons coming.

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Speaker 2: The dude, Kevin Karsner tell us about Horizon.

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Speaker 9: Okay, this is Horizon, an American saga. Chapter one. Chapter

441
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Speaker 9: one is three hours and one minute long. Jai, there

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Speaker 9: are three more chapters potentially to come.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you right now, I'm not going to Los.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Well this is the problem. Okay. So this is a

446
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Speaker 9: Western chronicles the great migration West during the Civil War era.

447
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Speaker 9: In this first chapter, we meet a variety of characters

448
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Speaker 9: who all have their own storylines, but they seem to

449
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Speaker 9: be descending, sort of converging on this new settlement called Horizon,

450
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Speaker 9: which of course is not welcomed by the locals whatsoever.

451
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Speaker 9: A lot of set up in chapter one, a lot

452
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Speaker 9: of different storylines, as you mentioned. Directed by Kevin Costner.

453
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Speaker 9: He's put thirty eight million of his own money into

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Speaker 9: this film. He's funded the rest with the help of

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Speaker 9: two mystery investors and by selling off the sort of

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Speaker 9: the foreign rights to it. I will sit and watch

457
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Speaker 9: every minute of this because I love a Western, and

458
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Speaker 9: I'm really happy to sit back and let this all

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Speaker 9: play out in front of me. But it did occur

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Speaker 9: to me Jack that most people like you will go

461
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Speaker 9: I don't have three hours one minute plus trailers to

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Speaker 9: go and watch this film. So if you don't go

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Speaker 9: and watch the first film, you're not going to go

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Speaker 9: and watch the next three films at the movies. So

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Speaker 9: in my mind, I'm going, why is he releasing this

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Speaker 9: in cinemas? Why is he making this a film when

467
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Speaker 9: if you don't get people in to watch the first film,

468
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Speaker 9: no one's going to turn up and watch the reft.

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Speaker 9: It's going to be a huge flop. And of course

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Speaker 9: what has happened exactly that. So this first film is

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Speaker 9: playing in cinemas here in New Zealand. The second film

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Speaker 9: they have announced just this week, Chapter two, which also

473
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Speaker 9: costs one hundred million to make, that is going to

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Speaker 9: be pulled from cinema release and that is going to

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Speaker 9: go direct to videos somehow. So the crazy thing about

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Speaker 9: this is it looks wonderful. It's great storytelling. I as

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Speaker 9: I say, you know, I love a Western, and he

478
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Speaker 9: wanted to Capture the Yellowstone Crowd. So why didn't you

479
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Speaker 9: make this a TV show? It's going to be twelve

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Speaker 9: hours by the time it's finished. So I just wonder

481
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Speaker 9: whether a little bit of ego and I'm going to

482
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Speaker 9: make the Great American Western and it's going to be

483
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Speaker 9: twelve hours long and we're going to be talking about

484
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Speaker 9: this for decades. I wonder if just think a little

485
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Speaker 9: clouded there when essentially he could be potentially, you know,

486
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Speaker 9: making one of the best TV shows we've seen in ages. Anyway,

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Speaker 9: if you love a Western and you've got three hours

488
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Speaker 9: in one minute spare and you just want to go

489
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Speaker 9: and sit and watch, but you are probably committing yourself

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Speaker 9: to another, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, another at minimum. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, all right

492
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Speaker 2: The Horizon. Okay, yeah, bit of a shame, all right,

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Speaker 2: that's Horizon starring Kevin Costner. Next up, something completely different.

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Speaker 2: This is also showing at the movies. Let's have a

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Speaker 2: listen to Fly Me to the Moon.

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Speaker 5: Public support for the Moon mission is right off. The

497
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Speaker 5: space is a bloated man. Lassa needs a marketing specialist

498
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Speaker 5: and you are the very best.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this has got Channing Tatum and Scarlet Johansson, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Fabia's cast.

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Speaker 9: I saw the trailer and I thought, this is a

502
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Speaker 9: little bit of may a fun romantic comedy, but a

503
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Speaker 9: little bit of depth because they've set it around a

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Speaker 9: historical event, so they've been quite clever with Apollo eleven's

505
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Speaker 9: trip to the Moon, the first moon landing. And I thought, great, perfect,

506
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Speaker 9: and look, this was really pleasant. Sunday afternoon doing I

507
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Speaker 9: went and saw it with Tim and Lola. We went

508
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Speaker 9: to the movies last Sunny afternon and it was great.

509
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Speaker 9: But unfortunately it didn't quite They didn't quite nail It

510
00:27:45,733 --> 00:27:48,933
Speaker 9: starts off great, lots of sassy lines. You've got Scarlet

511
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Speaker 9: Johnson who definitely keeps this film afloat. She's just gorgeous

512
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Speaker 9: as this sassy marketing hot shot who finds clever ways

513
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Speaker 9: of getting clients on board and also selling any anything.

514
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Speaker 9: And she brought in to help the NIXT administration brings

515
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Speaker 9: her into NASSA because they say, look, people are interested

516
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Speaker 9: in the eventnam more, no one is interested in the

517
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Speaker 9: strip to the Moon, and we need to sell the

518
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Speaker 9: strip to the Moon because we need the funding. So

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Speaker 9: she comes in and of course you know all the

520
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Speaker 9: very serious you know scientists that NASA, you know, do

521
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Speaker 9: not quite relate to the through sassy New Yorker and

522
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Speaker 9: Channel Tating plays the launch director, and they are, you know,

523
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Speaker 9: two quite different FeAs in the pod, but of course

524
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Speaker 9: both very good looking and there's some chemistry there, so

525
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Speaker 9: you kind of know where this is going to go.

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Speaker 9: And I said, start up at a hyen or finished

527
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Speaker 9: with a bit of humor, but it just lags in

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Speaker 9: the middle. So unfortunately it didn't quite become the you know,

529
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Speaker 9: the fabulous fun I thought might be. But interestingly, just

530
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Speaker 9: like The Fore Guy, another kind of romantic comedy that

531
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Speaker 9: was released earlier in the year with Emily Blunt and

532
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Speaker 9: Ryan Gosbin, this is also flopped at the box office,

533
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Speaker 9: so it only pulled in ten million in it because

534
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Speaker 9: Horizons flopped terribly. They pulled about ten million in on

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Speaker 9: opening weekend domestically, as has this film, as did The

536
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Speaker 9: Four Guy. So we don't seem to be heading to

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Speaker 9: romantic comedies at the moment. But a full on psychological

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Speaker 9: horror called Deep Legs, Long Legs.

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Speaker 2: Long legs, right, long legs, legs, Yeah, long legs.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, long Legs has absolutely absolutely blow on the box

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Speaker 9: office away. So who knows what the customer wants right now.

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Speaker 9: But this is kind of delightful if you do like

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Speaker 9: a romantic comedy and you want something light and pleasant.

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Speaker 9: As I say, it didn't quite sort the heights. I

545
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Speaker 9: was hoping that would, but it's still fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, Okay, thanks Franchesca. I appreciate that. That is

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Speaker 2: fly Me to the Moon. Francesca's first pick was Horizon.

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Speaker 2: That's someone with Kevin Costner will have the details for

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Speaker 2: both of those movies up on the news talks. He'd

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Speaker 2: be website Jack. We got a text from friends last

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Speaker 2: night before we knew about the IT outage, who were

552
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Speaker 2: in a bar in Broadbeach stray Are and said the

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Speaker 2: system went down, so drinks for free. We thought they

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Speaker 2: were joking, but they weren't. Yeah, how good. I would

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Speaker 2: use cash more, but the coins are far too heavy

556
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Speaker 2: and too far too bulky. They need to be made lighter,

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Speaker 2: as they have in some countries. We always keep at home,

558
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Speaker 2: says Shane. But I never carry cash. Yeah, that's I think.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's a good. That's a good position to have, right,

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Speaker 2: cash at home, But not carrying cash is kind of understandable.

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Speaker 2: Ninety two ninety two is our text number if you

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Speaker 2: want to flick near message that delicious sounding apple and

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Speaker 2: BlackBerry sheep pancake recipe for you next.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend with bpure dot cot dot in here for

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Speaker 2: Thirteen minutes to ten on newstalks 'b cook, Nicky Wicks

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Speaker 2: is here with us. Hey Niki, Hey, good morning Jack.

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Speaker 2: Before you get in today's into today's recipe, I just

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Speaker 2: wanted to share with you a bit of a shout

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Speaker 2: out from fellow friend of the show, regular contributor travel

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Speaker 2: corresponding Mike Yardley. He said he just wanted to say

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Speaker 2: shout out to you because he said, your self sourcing

574
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Speaker 2: citrus putting recipes from last week is utterly amazing. It

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Speaker 2: has been a huge smash it across the wider family

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Speaker 2: this week. So there you go.

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Speaker 11: Fantastic.

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Speaker 12: I love it.

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Speaker 11: I have eaten so much of that last month.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's so good.

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Speaker 11: Oh great, got on, I love it.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's please get to today's recipe and then we're

585
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Speaker 2: going to talk about an event later this week. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: this sounds amazing.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, look, This is an apple and BlackBerry sheet cake,

588
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Speaker 13: and a sheet cake is really a sort of left

589
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Speaker 13: over It's almost a catering turn and a bit of

590
00:31:25,173 --> 00:31:27,453
Speaker 13: an American term as well, that you sort of make

591
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Speaker 13: these cakes on a large scale, on a huge, big

592
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Speaker 13: sheet pan.

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Speaker 11: I've reduced this down to.

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Speaker 13: A little Swiss rollton, which I love doing because these

595
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Speaker 13: cakes cook really really quickly, seventeen to twenty minutes and

596
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Speaker 13: it's done and yet it's still got a decent puff

597
00:31:42,053 --> 00:31:43,733
Speaker 13: on it, and then you can sort of cut them

598
00:31:43,773 --> 00:31:47,253
Speaker 13: into nice big square bits I think are really economical

599
00:31:47,693 --> 00:31:49,813
Speaker 13: or ergonomical to both fit in the lunchbox but.

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Speaker 11: Also to eat.

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Speaker 13: You get none of that you know, that nosing thin

602
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Speaker 13: bit at the end or anything like that, as you

603
00:31:55,053 --> 00:31:58,733
Speaker 13: do a wedge and it's delicious and it's utterly economical

604
00:31:58,773 --> 00:32:02,773
Speaker 13: as well, because it's really got flour, water, sugar, sugar, flour,

605
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Speaker 13: bit of yogurt, couple of eggs, bit of fruit. And

606
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Speaker 13: at this time of the year, fruit is a bit

607
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Speaker 13: of a challenge. Apples aren't at their best, so I

608
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Speaker 13: love to cook.

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Speaker 11: They've come out of cock stores and I use just

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Speaker 11: some frozen blackberries, so it's great. Here's what you do.

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Speaker 14: It's kind of weird, so hang it all right.

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Speaker 13: Oven He goes on two hundred degrees not fan bakedicular

613
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Speaker 13: bake greas and line a shallow Swiss rollton. It's about

614
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Speaker 13: twenty times thirty centimeter triangle, and I line it with

615
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Speaker 13: a large piece of baking paper, and I kind of

616
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Speaker 13: twist the corners up so that the side sit up

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Speaker 13: a little bit. It's a good little trick to use.

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Speaker 14: And then here you go.

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Speaker 11: This is how it starts, which is so weird. In

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Speaker 11: a pot.

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Speaker 13: You bring the butter and water to a boil, and

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Speaker 13: that's one hundred and fifty grams of butter, two thirds

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Speaker 13: of a cup of water. Bring that to the boil,

624
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Speaker 13: and then after that's boiled, stir in half a cup

625
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Speaker 13: of brown sugar and half a cup of white sugar,

626
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Speaker 13: and then followed by some dry ingredients one and a

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Speaker 13: half cups of flour. You could swift it if you like,

628
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Speaker 13: but you just make sure that a one teaspoon of

629
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Speaker 13: baking soda is kind of mixed in with that flour.

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Speaker 13: Pinch your salt, teaspoon of cinnamon. Sometimes kids don't like cinnamons.

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Speaker 13: You could leave it out, make a jot of difference, really,

632
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Speaker 13: but I love that with the apple, and you give

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Speaker 13: all that a really good stir, and then add in

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Speaker 13: and all of this is done with a spoon. No

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Speaker 13: beeders know anything. It's a one point wonder. Add in

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Speaker 13: a third of a cup of yogurt. If you don't

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Speaker 13: have yogurt, you sour cream. If you don't have sour green,

638
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Speaker 13: but you have cream frish great. If you don't have

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Speaker 13: any of those, put some lemon juice and some milk

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Speaker 13: and it'll work, okay, because you want that acidulation that

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Speaker 13: kind of works with the baking soda and gives it

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Speaker 13: our puff. Two medium eggs, you lightly whisk those first,

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Speaker 13: and then I chop up about two one and a

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Speaker 13: half maybe two apples I use Granny Smiths and half

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Speaker 13: a cup of frozen berries.

646
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Speaker 11: Throw that through the batter, and then pour your batter

647
00:33:45,853 --> 00:33:48,413
Speaker 11: into the dish, into your lined tin.

648
00:33:48,933 --> 00:33:52,573
Speaker 13: Bake it for seventeen to twenty minutes, and call it

649
00:33:52,653 --> 00:33:55,253
Speaker 13: for ten after that, and then I say, while it's warm, Jack,

650
00:33:55,653 --> 00:33:58,293
Speaker 13: which is unusual for a cake, but I think I know,

651
00:33:58,373 --> 00:34:00,773
Speaker 13: it kind of goes glossy and then it cracks a

652
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Speaker 13: little bit when.

653
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Speaker 11: It cools down all what.

654
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Speaker 5: I love that.

655
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Speaker 11: I love that.

656
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I just use the vanilla based ice, saying one

657
00:34:06,773 --> 00:34:08,893
Speaker 13: and a half cups of icing sugar. It's a thin

658
00:34:09,013 --> 00:34:11,773
Speaker 13: layer of icing sugar, one teaspoon of melted butter, two

659
00:34:11,773 --> 00:34:13,973
Speaker 13: teaspoons of vanilla extra and enough sort of hot water

660
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Speaker 13: to make it make sure it can kind of be

661
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Speaker 13: poured over.

662
00:34:16,213 --> 00:34:18,413
Speaker 11: The cake and you're done. And it is great. And

663
00:34:18,453 --> 00:34:20,133
Speaker 11: I've eaten far too much of this one this week.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

665
00:34:20,813 --> 00:34:25,093
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds so good. Nice, Oh this is you'll

666
00:34:25,133 --> 00:34:28,053
Speaker 2: be happy that the wider Yardley family will be delighted.

667
00:34:28,173 --> 00:34:31,973
Speaker 2: Oh good, family, go for it. Hey, so you've got

668
00:34:32,253 --> 00:34:34,653
Speaker 2: an event this week later later this wee can bleed them.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I have.

670
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Speaker 11: So next Thursday, the Marlborough Book Festival starts.

671
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Speaker 13: I arrive on Friday and I've got two sessions Saturday

672
00:34:43,773 --> 00:34:47,053
Speaker 13: and Sunday Friday night. I'm also part of the lineup

673
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Speaker 13: that does those sort of imprompt you without notes talks.

674
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Speaker 11: I'm very nervous about that. Yeah, it should be great.

675
00:34:52,573 --> 00:35:00,613
Speaker 13: Some great authors, Emily Perkins there, Rachel King, So McCauley. Fantastic,

676
00:35:00,733 --> 00:35:03,093
Speaker 13: just a fantastic line up there. So get your tickets

677
00:35:03,133 --> 00:35:04,653
Speaker 13: and I'd love to see that. I'll be talking about

678
00:35:04,813 --> 00:35:06,973
Speaker 13: what it's like to make a TV food show, all

679
00:35:07,013 --> 00:35:09,133
Speaker 13: the little stuff that goes on behind the scenes. Yes,

680
00:35:09,573 --> 00:35:13,253
Speaker 13: my Box, the Quiet, the Quiet Kitchen series, So yeah,

681
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Speaker 13: I can't wait.

682
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Speaker 11: I love Marlborough.

683
00:35:14,973 --> 00:35:18,933
Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely beautiful in and around me Blenham or anywhere

684
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Speaker 13: in TEYNAMU get yourself.

685
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Speaker 2: Along, so good, Okay, thank you. Hey, I'm just because

686
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Speaker 2: I'm all about sharing the love. Jack. We can cur

687
00:35:26,093 --> 00:35:29,373
Speaker 2: the self sourcing citrus as it was utterly divine, says Gwen,

688
00:35:29,453 --> 00:35:31,933
Speaker 2: So so thank you. Hey, there you go. Look we're

689
00:35:31,973 --> 00:35:33,853
Speaker 2: just sharing the love this morning. Thank you so much. Nikki.

690
00:35:33,893 --> 00:35:35,733
Speaker 2: We're going to make sure that apple and BlackBerry sheet

691
00:35:35,813 --> 00:35:38,653
Speaker 2: pancake recipe is up on the news Talks. He'd be

692
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Speaker 2: website and Caroline is just like your notes, So Jack,

693
00:35:40,733 --> 00:35:44,093
Speaker 2: we can I find this amazing citrus self sourcing pudding

694
00:35:44,893 --> 00:35:46,813
Speaker 2: or the recipe. You can find that online as well,

695
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Speaker 2: Carolyn News Talks. He'd be dot co, dot ended Ford

696
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Speaker 2: slash Jack. So you find everything from our show there,

697
00:35:53,133 --> 00:35:54,773
Speaker 2: but you can also go back to last week's show

698
00:35:54,813 --> 00:35:57,733
Speaker 2: and find everything from last week's show, including that amazing recipe.

699
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Speaker 2: Marks is Jack or the power of the crowd strike

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Speaker 2: outage and the various complications people have had with money

701
00:36:05,453 --> 00:36:07,413
Speaker 2: over the last twenty For ours takes me back to

702
00:36:07,493 --> 00:36:10,133
Speaker 2: a time when we received our pay in cash on

703
00:36:10,253 --> 00:36:13,973
Speaker 2: a Thursday and a small brown envelope, then putting our

704
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Speaker 2: share into a jar for the week's bills and our flat. Yeah,

705
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Speaker 2: it's nice ninety two ninety two. If you want to

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Speaker 2: send us a message, it's seven minutes to.

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Speaker 1: Ten giving you the inside scoop on all you need

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Speaker 1: to know. Saturday mornings with jackdam and Bpure dot co

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Speaker 1: dot nzet for high quality Supplements US talks.

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Speaker 2: Be a lot of people feeling very vindicated. This morning

711
00:36:34,733 --> 00:36:38,573
Speaker 2: has to be said when it comes to having a

712
00:36:38,653 --> 00:36:42,093
Speaker 2: bit of cash. So I was fine, thankfully, I've been

713
00:36:42,173 --> 00:36:45,933
Speaker 2: fine so far. Touch would with the outages caused by

714
00:36:46,013 --> 00:36:49,853
Speaker 2: this IT problem. They've caused all sorts of issues around

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Speaker 2: the world. So banks have been affected, airlines, airports all

716
00:36:54,013 --> 00:36:55,933
Speaker 2: over the place. Some of the biggest companies in the

717
00:36:55,973 --> 00:36:59,653
Speaker 2: world have had really significant outages. You can only imagine

718
00:37:00,213 --> 00:37:02,933
Speaker 2: there will be hell to pay at this company, CrowdStrike.

719
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Speaker 2: Just imagine being the CEO of CrowdStrike yesterday. This is

720
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Speaker 2: this is the company that provides cybersecurity services via Microsoft

721
00:37:12,573 --> 00:37:14,813
Speaker 2: to various companies around the world. I mean, what an

722
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Speaker 2: absolute nightmare of a day. Now your company's being blamed

723
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Speaker 2: for the single largest IT outage in history. Only so

724
00:37:23,493 --> 00:37:26,333
Speaker 2: many times you can say sorry. I suspect there may

725
00:37:26,373 --> 00:37:29,293
Speaker 2: be some legal cases that follow all of this. Anyway,

726
00:37:29,413 --> 00:37:32,493
Speaker 2: Jack just proves cash is still king. I have a

727
00:37:32,613 --> 00:37:36,453
Speaker 2: safe full of cash for days like this. Thank you.

728
00:37:37,453 --> 00:37:39,773
Speaker 2: It's probably a good thing you're not sending your address

729
00:37:39,853 --> 00:37:42,373
Speaker 2: through with these kind of messages this morning as well.

730
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Speaker 2: But no, I've made my way to an ATM this

731
00:37:44,573 --> 00:37:47,453
Speaker 2: morning and have picked up a little bit of cash

732
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Speaker 2: just to get me through in case of another crisis.

733
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Speaker 2: After ten o'clock we will catch up with our texpert

734
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Speaker 2: this morning. He's going to give us the very latest

735
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Speaker 2: on this outage, what caused it, and how long it's

736
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Speaker 2: going to take until everything is back up and running again.

737
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Speaker 2: As well as that, I've got to tell you about

738
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Speaker 2: this amazing new BBC thriller that has just been released

739
00:38:06,973 --> 00:38:09,453
Speaker 2: In our screen Time segment. We always recommend new shows

740
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Speaker 2: to you and Tara, our screen time expert, has one.

741
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Speaker 2: She Reckons is fantastic THEPEBC Thrillers. I'll tell you about that. Plus,

742
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Speaker 2: of course, for the first time since the Sydney Olympics,

743
00:38:20,893 --> 00:38:25,413
Speaker 2: Dame Valerie Adams is not competing in Olympic Games. She's

744
00:38:25,453 --> 00:38:27,933
Speaker 2: of course won two gold medals, a silver, a bronze

745
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Speaker 2: and if she prepares for Paris twenty twenty four as

746
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Speaker 2: a fan. She's with us in studio. Cannot wait for that.

747
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Speaker 2: News is next. You're with Jack Tayme. It's Saturday morning

748
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Speaker 2: and this is Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack day and Bpure dot co dot z for high

751
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Speaker 1: quality supplements Newstalgs EDB.

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Speaker 2: Good morning. You're Jactaime on Newstigs eDV and we are

753
00:39:17,013 --> 00:39:20,293
Speaker 2: exactly one week away from the twenty twenty four Olympic

754
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Speaker 2: Games in Paris. Kiwi athletes have been training, competing, pushing

755
00:39:24,733 --> 00:39:27,893
Speaker 2: hard to qualify for Team New Zealand, and one hundred

756
00:39:27,933 --> 00:39:32,333
Speaker 2: and ninety five athletes are currently making their way to France.

757
00:39:33,133 --> 00:39:35,493
Speaker 2: As someone who knows the feeling all too well, having

758
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Speaker 2: competed at a whopping five Olympic Games and one a

759
00:39:38,933 --> 00:39:41,813
Speaker 2: staggering two golds, a silver and a bronze medal in

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Speaker 2: the shop put as Dame Valerie Adams this year, though

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Speaker 2: she's not competing, although she's preparing to head to Paris

762
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Speaker 2: in her new advocacy role. Dame val is with us

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Speaker 2: in studio Keilder. Good morning, Calder.

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Speaker 15: How's it going?

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Speaker 2: Very good things.

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Speaker 16: It's good to see you, Thank you, thank you.

767
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Speaker 2: What is it like preparing for your first Olympic Games

768
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Speaker 2: in more than twenty years in which you don't actually

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Speaker 2: have to compete.

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Speaker 15: It's a little bit different. I think the stress levels

771
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Speaker 15: are a bit different, and it's different stresses now. You know,

772
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Speaker 15: before it was a performance higher training pretty much at

773
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Speaker 15: the cliff edge, you know, kind of aiming for that

774
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Speaker 15: one centimeter at a time type of thing, where now

775
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Speaker 15: it's a different type of stress, you know, preparing presentations

776
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Speaker 15: for council meetings and you know, traveling and all the

777
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Speaker 15: rest of it. So it's it's good in one sense,

778
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Speaker 15: and then the other sense, it's it's a stressful as

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Speaker 15: well because it is a different role. Yeah, but at

780
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Speaker 15: the same time, looking forward to go and enjoy the

781
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Speaker 15: games from a spectator's point of view.

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Speaker 2: As a post of competing, that must be so nice. Yeah, yeah, actually,

783
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Speaker 2: because I think I don't know if it was real

784
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Speaker 2: where it was, but I think I spoke to it

785
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Speaker 2: at games once and and see, like, do you actually

786
00:40:51,453 --> 00:40:56,053
Speaker 2: watch the game certainly before your event? Yeah? Yeah, never never, yeah,

787
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Speaker 2: And so like for you it's going to become a

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Speaker 2: novel experience actually just watching the Olympics.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely, like watching the whole day if I wanted to,

790
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Speaker 15: and sitting there and getting tired and all the rest

791
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Speaker 15: of it whilst enjoying the games.

792
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Speaker 16: But you don't watch it.

793
00:41:09,053 --> 00:41:10,853
Speaker 15: You're focus on your event, and that is that you

794
00:41:10,893 --> 00:41:13,053
Speaker 15: don't know what anybody else is doing, because that's just

795
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Speaker 15: the whole that's.

796
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Speaker 2: Just the way it is.

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Speaker 15: Where now it's like you can actually pick who you

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Speaker 15: want to watch and who you want to follow, and

799
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Speaker 15: get up at three o'clock in the morning before you

800
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Speaker 15: actually shoot out, but go into Paris all the rest

801
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Speaker 15: of it.

802
00:41:22,213 --> 00:41:23,733
Speaker 16: But it's going to be great.

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Speaker 15: I think, you know, this is going to be a

804
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Speaker 15: games to remember after what happened in Tokyo, so globally,

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Speaker 15: I think it's going to pretty much uplift everybody.

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Speaker 16: I hope. So I mean, I hope, But that's the aim, right,

807
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Speaker 16: is it?

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Speaker 12: One?

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Speaker 2: Of the things I love about the Olympics is I

810
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Speaker 2: get really intensely into sports that I don't necessarily follow

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Speaker 2: for like three years and nine months, you know, and

812
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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden I've become like an expert

813
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Speaker 2: on diving or whatever.

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Speaker 11: Else.

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Speaker 2: Are these sports that you are really excited about seeing that?

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Speaker 15: Isn't that a typical journalist? Particular sports that I'm looking

817
00:41:57,773 --> 00:42:00,933
Speaker 15: forward to. I'm I really enjoy basketball joining the Olympic

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00:42:00,973 --> 00:42:03,333
Speaker 15: Games because it's quite you know, it's quite intense, but

819
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Speaker 15: in a different way. I love three yeah, absolutely, But

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Speaker 15: then I do like things like gymnastics, you know, because

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Speaker 15: it's so such a novelty. We don't even really have

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Speaker 15: it here in New Zealand and obviously following the New

823
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Speaker 15: Zealand crew. But all in all, I think it's going

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Speaker 15: to be a very different games, right because there's so

825
00:42:22,253 --> 00:42:26,053
Speaker 15: many villages that they have to and countries, not just

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Speaker 15: in France. You know, you've got Tahiti putting up surfing,

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Speaker 15: so it's very unique and it's very French.

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Speaker 2: How do you think about breakdancing?

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Speaker 16: Listen?

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Speaker 15: Breakdancing They take some skill and take some work and

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Speaker 15: it is quite competitive. I mean, but you know, it's

832
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Speaker 15: quite hard to judge or to you know, get a

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Speaker 15: winner out of it.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, I'm a real.

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Speaker 16: Uh you know, old school when it comes to the Olympics.

836
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Speaker 15: But equally, I know that we have to move with

837
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Speaker 15: the times, especially with the youngsters coming through, So you

838
00:42:57,813 --> 00:42:59,773
Speaker 15: have to be open minded and be a bit more

839
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Speaker 15: have a mind. That's a bit towards the innovation way

840
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Speaker 15: because within athletics we're trying to do the same thing

841
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Speaker 15: to get more viewers and spectators on board, especially from

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Speaker 15: a broadcasting point of view.

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Speaker 16: You talk to us about that.

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Speaker 2: How is athletics kind of moving with the times a

845
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Speaker 2: little bit?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, you know, we introduce things like the

847
00:43:17,773 --> 00:43:21,173
Speaker 15: mixed relay, you know, very unique events, and you have

848
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Speaker 15: like the relay Champs over and the Bahamas and all

849
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Speaker 15: the rest of the whole idea for us is actually

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Speaker 15: how do you grow the sport globally and how do

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Speaker 15: you get more participants. Also, research shows that for example, throws,

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Speaker 15: for example, there is a massive drop in viewership.

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Speaker 16: So from a from a sporting point of view.

854
00:43:37,813 --> 00:43:39,333
Speaker 15: We actually have to look at this and that's why

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00:43:39,573 --> 00:43:41,733
Speaker 15: it's because you know, female throws is a lot less

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Speaker 15: interesting than male male throwers.

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Speaker 2: How do we change that?

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Speaker 15: You know, we have looked at ways of trying to

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Speaker 15: you know, bump that up, like changing implement weights and

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00:43:52,053 --> 00:43:54,453
Speaker 15: with the horizontal jumps. You know, there's so many fowls

861
00:43:54,453 --> 00:43:56,253
Speaker 15: when they do jumps. Okay, how do we avoid this

862
00:43:56,413 --> 00:43:59,773
Speaker 15: because you know, six six jumps and then they've foul

863
00:43:59,853 --> 00:44:01,493
Speaker 15: four jumps, there's only two valid jumps.

864
00:44:01,573 --> 00:44:04,533
Speaker 16: You know, how does that become boring for spectators?

865
00:44:04,653 --> 00:44:04,733
Speaker 17: Right?

866
00:44:04,973 --> 00:44:07,213
Speaker 15: So we have to be a bit more open minded,

867
00:44:07,253 --> 00:44:09,213
Speaker 15: and sometimes it's very difficult because you've got to get

868
00:44:09,213 --> 00:44:11,253
Speaker 15: the buy in from the athletes and buy in from

869
00:44:11,333 --> 00:44:13,293
Speaker 15: the old school spectators.

870
00:44:13,413 --> 00:44:17,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very interesting. I hadn't perhaps appreciated that that

871
00:44:18,093 --> 00:44:21,093
Speaker 2: level of analysis came into every sport and athletics that

872
00:44:21,533 --> 00:44:23,173
Speaker 2: you know, you're looking at the kind of viewership and

873
00:44:23,253 --> 00:44:25,573
Speaker 2: going you know what, Actually, we do have an opportunity

874
00:44:25,693 --> 00:44:26,973
Speaker 2: to improve things here.

875
00:44:27,013 --> 00:44:29,613
Speaker 15: Because because at the end of the day, broadcasters and

876
00:44:29,773 --> 00:44:34,133
Speaker 15: people with the TV companies like your own, that's how

877
00:44:34,173 --> 00:44:36,293
Speaker 15: we get our money. Right, So we actually have to

878
00:44:36,373 --> 00:44:38,533
Speaker 15: work together and actually find ways and how do we

879
00:44:38,613 --> 00:44:41,853
Speaker 15: get more people to be interested in the sport, and

880
00:44:41,933 --> 00:44:44,213
Speaker 15: if it means moving around and maneuvering some things here

881
00:44:44,253 --> 00:44:45,653
Speaker 15: and then then that's what we've got to look into

882
00:44:46,133 --> 00:44:48,813
Speaker 15: the mix relay for example, you know, people were a

883
00:44:48,813 --> 00:44:50,893
Speaker 15: bit spectacle. You know, oh, this is probably not a

884
00:44:50,933 --> 00:44:54,533
Speaker 15: good idea. How do we make this, you know, entertaining,

885
00:44:54,653 --> 00:44:56,333
Speaker 15: But in fact it's been a big hit and now

886
00:44:56,373 --> 00:44:59,533
Speaker 15: it's part of the program. So we just have to

887
00:44:59,573 --> 00:45:02,333
Speaker 15: be a bit more open minded, but equally making sure

888
00:45:02,373 --> 00:45:03,853
Speaker 15: that the athletes get the buy in on it.

889
00:45:04,293 --> 00:45:06,053
Speaker 2: And it's going to have the balance, like you don't

890
00:45:06,093 --> 00:45:08,933
Speaker 2: want to to make something a spectacle for the sake

891
00:45:08,933 --> 00:45:11,373
Speaker 2: of being a spectacle. It's still you know, you're still

892
00:45:11,453 --> 00:45:12,333
Speaker 2: got to be.

893
00:45:12,333 --> 00:45:13,093
Speaker 16: True to the sport.

894
00:45:13,293 --> 00:45:16,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, at its core. Yeah, do you think you know

895
00:45:17,293 --> 00:45:20,613
Speaker 2: that that shows Sprint on Netflix has kind of applied

896
00:45:20,733 --> 00:45:24,573
Speaker 2: the Formula one drive to survive behind the scenes drama

897
00:45:25,653 --> 00:45:30,533
Speaker 2: model to sprinters. Are there other like sports and athletics

898
00:45:30,573 --> 00:45:32,653
Speaker 2: that you think would could you imagine yourself?

899
00:45:33,533 --> 00:45:37,413
Speaker 15: No, the sprinters are like Hollywood stars. They are very dramatic,

900
00:45:38,013 --> 00:45:40,653
Speaker 15: you know, they're over dramatized things. You know, they're very

901
00:45:40,733 --> 00:45:43,253
Speaker 15: out there. And you've got the Americans versus the Jamaicans.

902
00:45:43,293 --> 00:45:46,053
Speaker 15: It makes a little bit less loud than the Americans are,

903
00:45:46,333 --> 00:45:48,893
Speaker 15: and I think it brings a massive insight as to

904
00:45:49,013 --> 00:45:52,813
Speaker 15: what goes on in that sprinting world. But that's the entertainment. Yeah,

905
00:45:53,293 --> 00:45:55,373
Speaker 15: that's where most of the money comes from. Is this

906
00:45:55,693 --> 00:45:58,373
Speaker 15: one hundred sprints. So at the end of the day,

907
00:45:58,773 --> 00:46:00,733
Speaker 15: it's ten seconds. You've got to get the start right.

908
00:46:00,853 --> 00:46:03,253
Speaker 15: You can't foster, and you've got ten seconds to run

909
00:46:03,293 --> 00:46:04,613
Speaker 15: your heart out and try and win.

910
00:46:04,813 --> 00:46:09,653
Speaker 2: Okay, you can't foster. Just as as as a layman,

911
00:46:09,693 --> 00:46:12,053
Speaker 2: I look at that and I'm like, really, we're going

912
00:46:12,093 --> 00:46:15,333
Speaker 2: to We're going to just qualify someone over one false start. Yeah,

913
00:46:15,493 --> 00:46:16,933
Speaker 2: that's so much pressure.

914
00:46:17,173 --> 00:46:18,093
Speaker 16: It's so much pressure.

915
00:46:18,133 --> 00:46:20,373
Speaker 15: But once upon a time you can get too false starts.

916
00:46:20,413 --> 00:46:22,453
Speaker 15: So athlete on the line, you get two false starts,

917
00:46:22,453 --> 00:46:24,773
Speaker 15: so you could be starting for the next half an hour.

918
00:46:25,653 --> 00:46:28,573
Speaker 15: So it was pretty much because broadcasters were getting annoyed, right,

919
00:46:28,933 --> 00:46:31,213
Speaker 15: so it says one false start, one hurt, you're out. Yeah,

920
00:46:31,333 --> 00:46:34,813
Speaker 15: and they learned it pretty quickly and you know, hardly

921
00:46:34,813 --> 00:46:37,053
Speaker 15: at least false starts. When it happens, it's quite dramatic.

922
00:46:37,613 --> 00:46:40,093
Speaker 15: That's what TV likes, that's what spectators like, that's what

923
00:46:40,213 --> 00:46:40,813
Speaker 15: the viewers like.

924
00:46:40,973 --> 00:46:44,453
Speaker 16: Is actually that that drama, Oh this person's false start,

925
00:46:44,613 --> 00:46:45,653
Speaker 16: or they were a favorite to win.

926
00:46:46,053 --> 00:46:51,613
Speaker 2: I looking at the key athletics team apart from your

927
00:46:51,773 --> 00:46:54,693
Speaker 2: very notable absence, of course, it's like it strikes me

928
00:46:54,773 --> 00:46:57,653
Speaker 2: as one of the strongest athletics teams across the boards

929
00:46:57,693 --> 00:47:00,413
Speaker 2: we've had in a long time. Is that is that fair? Yeah?

930
00:47:00,453 --> 00:47:01,213
Speaker 16: That that is fair?

931
00:47:01,413 --> 00:47:04,613
Speaker 15: Certainly, Like put it this way, there's heaps of potentially. Yeah, yeah,

932
00:47:04,693 --> 00:47:07,853
Speaker 15: I think that's that's the right word. It's actually massive potential.

933
00:47:08,013 --> 00:47:10,893
Speaker 15: Quite a young team, you know, coming through the ranks,

934
00:47:11,093 --> 00:47:13,613
Speaker 15: and there's a lot of pressure on them to perform,

935
00:47:13,733 --> 00:47:16,213
Speaker 15: right because ultimately, you know, we've had a good history

936
00:47:16,293 --> 00:47:18,853
Speaker 15: of bringing back medals at every Olympic Game since I

937
00:47:19,613 --> 00:47:24,773
Speaker 15: competed apart from Olympia Athens. So there is a lot

938
00:47:24,773 --> 00:47:26,733
Speaker 15: of pressure on there, but so much potential. Who knows

939
00:47:26,813 --> 00:47:28,613
Speaker 15: it is the Olympic Games. It is a pinnacle of

940
00:47:28,973 --> 00:47:32,533
Speaker 15: everybody sporting career when they get there. But you know,

941
00:47:32,573 --> 00:47:34,693
Speaker 15: you got the likes of Eliza making the comeback again,

942
00:47:34,813 --> 00:47:38,813
Speaker 15: lots of pressure ZOI within the sprints, but anything could happen.

943
00:47:39,053 --> 00:47:41,813
Speaker 15: So I mean, I just hope that they will go

944
00:47:41,853 --> 00:47:43,453
Speaker 15: out there and do their best, which I know they would,

945
00:47:43,493 --> 00:47:46,613
Speaker 15: and I hope spectators and viewers, especially us Keyy's that

946
00:47:46,773 --> 00:47:51,813
Speaker 15: here supporting, remember and know and just realize that everybody

947
00:47:51,893 --> 00:47:54,373
Speaker 15: out there competing for our country is doing their ultimate

948
00:47:54,453 --> 00:47:57,413
Speaker 15: best and whatever the results will be will be, and

949
00:47:57,573 --> 00:48:00,213
Speaker 15: just be a bit kinder with any comments or remarks

950
00:48:00,213 --> 00:48:02,693
Speaker 15: that you might want to make. It's interesting because you know,

951
00:48:03,253 --> 00:48:05,253
Speaker 15: tall poppy syndrome, it is a thing in our country,

952
00:48:05,573 --> 00:48:08,373
Speaker 15: and we like to give a opinions and our two

953
00:48:08,493 --> 00:48:11,053
Speaker 15: cents on people's performances. But let me tell you something

954
00:48:11,133 --> 00:48:13,693
Speaker 15: from someone who has been there, done that multiple times,

955
00:48:13,773 --> 00:48:16,453
Speaker 15: five Olympic Games. I know what it's like to perform

956
00:48:16,533 --> 00:48:18,373
Speaker 15: well and succeed, and I know I also know what

957
00:48:18,413 --> 00:48:21,493
Speaker 15: it's like to underperform and actually get to ridiculed and

958
00:48:21,613 --> 00:48:24,213
Speaker 15: actually abuse for it. And then when a gold medal

959
00:48:24,253 --> 00:48:25,813
Speaker 15: seven days later and then I was a national hero,

960
00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:28,493
Speaker 15: it's not a good place to be and so just

961
00:48:28,613 --> 00:48:29,373
Speaker 15: be a bit mindful.

962
00:48:29,573 --> 00:48:31,813
Speaker 2: That's that's really interesting that if did that affect you

963
00:48:31,893 --> 00:48:33,093
Speaker 2: when people were giving you a.

964
00:48:33,453 --> 00:48:36,933
Speaker 15: Step of course, because that twenty twelve, like you know,

965
00:48:37,053 --> 00:48:38,973
Speaker 15: I got silver medal and then all of a sudden

966
00:48:38,973 --> 00:48:41,693
Speaker 15: it was like silver metal was not good enough, which

967
00:48:41,733 --> 00:48:43,933
Speaker 15: is crazy, you know, but I think you know nowadays,

968
00:48:44,333 --> 00:48:47,693
Speaker 15: you know, the accessibility to to athletes through social media platforms,

969
00:48:47,733 --> 00:48:51,093
Speaker 15: et cetera. It's it's out there, right, So yeah, it

970
00:48:51,133 --> 00:48:53,293
Speaker 15: did impact you because you're aready on the ground anyway

971
00:48:53,373 --> 00:48:55,813
Speaker 15: down on dumps and then extral on top of that

972
00:48:56,053 --> 00:48:59,373
Speaker 15: isn't helpful. But equally, you know, seven days later the

973
00:48:59,533 --> 00:49:01,293
Speaker 15: results changed and then all of a sudden, I was

974
00:49:01,773 --> 00:49:04,533
Speaker 15: a national hero. So not everybody has the capacity to

975
00:49:04,613 --> 00:49:06,013
Speaker 15: deal with that, you know, it is quite hard, but

976
00:49:06,453 --> 00:49:10,813
Speaker 15: but truth be told, you know this like how you

977
00:49:10,893 --> 00:49:13,453
Speaker 15: deal things mentally and high performers do go hand in hand,

978
00:49:13,653 --> 00:49:15,653
Speaker 15: so you have to put some tools and resources around

979
00:49:15,693 --> 00:49:16,653
Speaker 15: to try and combat that.

980
00:49:16,893 --> 00:49:19,533
Speaker 2: Are they are there things like that you will be

981
00:49:19,653 --> 00:49:22,453
Speaker 2: doing with New Zealand athletes to try and advise them.

982
00:49:22,493 --> 00:49:25,333
Speaker 2: You have any contact with them, So I'll go, you know,

983
00:49:25,373 --> 00:49:25,853
Speaker 2: if I see them.

984
00:49:25,933 --> 00:49:27,933
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I'll be in contact with them, but no,

985
00:49:28,213 --> 00:49:31,413
Speaker 15: so I'm there solely for world eforts, you know, but

986
00:49:31,533 --> 00:49:32,693
Speaker 15: I will definitely go and see I.

987
00:49:32,693 --> 00:49:34,573
Speaker 2: Mean you're going off on the door right of course.

988
00:49:34,933 --> 00:49:36,733
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, of course I'll go see them and and

989
00:49:36,973 --> 00:49:38,133
Speaker 16: and support them absolutely.

990
00:49:38,293 --> 00:49:40,653
Speaker 2: That's sort of because I mean for some of them,

991
00:49:40,733 --> 00:49:44,733
Speaker 2: especially when I think about how young athletics team is,

992
00:49:45,733 --> 00:49:48,093
Speaker 2: it seems to me like a lot of them I'm

993
00:49:48,173 --> 00:49:51,053
Speaker 2: sure would benefit from having your experience with those kind

994
00:49:51,133 --> 00:49:54,533
Speaker 2: of those kinds of considerations, right, I reckon, honestly, just

995
00:49:54,933 --> 00:49:56,173
Speaker 2: delete social media off you.

996
00:49:56,253 --> 00:49:58,693
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, just log off, just took

997
00:49:58,733 --> 00:50:00,733
Speaker 16: it off. Yeah, it must be so hard to do that.

998
00:50:00,893 --> 00:50:03,773
Speaker 16: For for some athletics, it's hard because that's the like,

999
00:50:04,053 --> 00:50:04,933
Speaker 16: that's how they kill time.

1000
00:50:05,533 --> 00:50:07,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that's it. You can't you try not

1001
00:50:07,733 --> 00:50:09,413
Speaker 2: to burn to about energy. Right, So you're sitting in

1002
00:50:09,453 --> 00:50:11,373
Speaker 2: the village and then you're scrolling and then you see

1003
00:50:11,373 --> 00:50:12,453
Speaker 2: something that really annoys you.

1004
00:50:12,693 --> 00:50:12,853
Speaker 14: Yep.

1005
00:50:13,173 --> 00:50:13,853
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

1006
00:50:14,453 --> 00:50:16,853
Speaker 2: And some of some MTI experts who reckons they can

1007
00:50:17,213 --> 00:50:19,853
Speaker 2: throw further than you or jump higher than you. Yeah great, yeah,

1008
00:50:19,893 --> 00:50:23,173
Speaker 2: here we go. Prize money as well. Yes, how are

1009
00:50:23,173 --> 00:50:23,773
Speaker 2: you feeling about that?

1010
00:50:23,893 --> 00:50:24,093
Speaker 18: Great?

1011
00:50:24,133 --> 00:50:26,733
Speaker 2: So fifty thousand dollars per event, right right?

1012
00:50:26,893 --> 00:50:27,093
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1013
00:50:27,133 --> 00:50:31,133
Speaker 2: Okay, So what difference will that make for for for

1014
00:50:31,253 --> 00:50:34,093
Speaker 2: athletes in terms of motivation and in terms of the sport.

1015
00:50:34,253 --> 00:50:37,013
Speaker 15: I think it's gonna like, you know, a lot of

1016
00:50:37,053 --> 00:50:40,093
Speaker 15: people gain from the athletes and gain from the Olympic Games, right,

1017
00:50:40,133 --> 00:50:42,693
Speaker 15: you know, with sponsors and you know the we're just

1018
00:50:42,733 --> 00:50:46,213
Speaker 15: talking about the TV broadcasts and stuff, you know, So Athletics,

1019
00:50:46,293 --> 00:50:50,413
Speaker 15: you know, I big up to them for putting something

1020
00:50:50,493 --> 00:50:52,853
Speaker 15: like this together, to making it happen, because you know,

1021
00:50:52,893 --> 00:50:55,853
Speaker 15: the athletes who deserve it, you know, they are Ethics

1022
00:50:55,853 --> 00:50:58,333
Speaker 15: for example, is the pinnacle of the of the Olympic Games.

1023
00:50:58,853 --> 00:51:00,173
Speaker 15: And for me, I think it's a step in the

1024
00:51:00,253 --> 00:51:02,373
Speaker 15: right direction, and it's up to the other sports that

1025
00:51:02,413 --> 00:51:04,333
Speaker 15: they want to follow suit. You know, there was a

1026
00:51:04,613 --> 00:51:06,893
Speaker 15: bit of stick back from the OOC about it. You know,

1027
00:51:06,973 --> 00:51:09,133
Speaker 15: it's not part of the Olympic movement and blah blahlah

1028
00:51:09,133 --> 00:51:11,613
Speaker 15: and all this was h but at the end of

1029
00:51:11,653 --> 00:51:13,853
Speaker 15: the day, for me, I think it's it's a positive movement.

1030
00:51:13,973 --> 00:51:16,693
Speaker 15: I think it's something that hopefully all the other sports

1031
00:51:16,733 --> 00:51:20,733
Speaker 15: looks into because we've got to you know, compensate our athletes,

1032
00:51:21,173 --> 00:51:23,733
Speaker 15: you know, for winning at an Olympic stage and for

1033
00:51:23,813 --> 00:51:26,213
Speaker 15: doing what they do. Athletics is not a very you

1034
00:51:26,293 --> 00:51:28,733
Speaker 15: can't make a lot of money like you're.

1035
00:51:28,613 --> 00:51:30,213
Speaker 16: Doing golf and all the rest of it. So this

1036
00:51:30,333 --> 00:51:31,573
Speaker 16: is going to help absolutely.

1037
00:51:31,693 --> 00:51:33,813
Speaker 2: I just think it makes it it seems only fair

1038
00:51:33,893 --> 00:51:34,053
Speaker 2: to me.

1039
00:51:34,853 --> 00:51:35,333
Speaker 16: Yes, thank you.

1040
00:51:36,413 --> 00:51:38,293
Speaker 2: In order to compete at the highest level, you have

1041
00:51:38,493 --> 00:51:41,053
Speaker 2: to we all know this. You you surely have to

1042
00:51:41,093 --> 00:51:43,413
Speaker 2: be a full time athlete. Almost everyone is a full

1043
00:51:43,453 --> 00:51:46,533
Speaker 2: time athlete, right and and there are sports like you say,

1044
00:51:46,773 --> 00:51:48,613
Speaker 2: it might be all right if you're an NBA star

1045
00:51:48,733 --> 00:51:51,293
Speaker 2: and you're playing playing for the USA basketball team or

1046
00:51:51,333 --> 00:51:53,093
Speaker 2: something like that, you're probably going to be okay, But

1047
00:51:53,133 --> 00:51:55,333
Speaker 2: there are so many sports where there isn't that kind

1048
00:51:55,373 --> 00:51:57,493
Speaker 2: of money. Not Surely you want to see athletes actually,

1049
00:51:57,893 --> 00:52:00,133
Speaker 2: you know, compensated for their work but also supported to

1050
00:52:00,213 --> 00:52:02,733
Speaker 2: get better in the future. I think it's sort of obvious.

1051
00:52:02,813 --> 00:52:05,813
Speaker 15: Absolutely, So I think like for me and for our sport,

1052
00:52:05,893 --> 00:52:07,733
Speaker 15: hopefully every other sport can lock it and go, okay,

1053
00:52:07,893 --> 00:52:09,533
Speaker 15: we got to do something like this, probably not up

1054
00:52:09,573 --> 00:52:11,613
Speaker 15: to the same standard, but do something, you know, because

1055
00:52:11,613 --> 00:52:13,813
Speaker 15: that means that they value their athletes because they're gaining

1056
00:52:13,893 --> 00:52:14,813
Speaker 15: from it totally.

1057
00:52:14,973 --> 00:52:15,853
Speaker 16: So let's see.

1058
00:52:16,053 --> 00:52:19,053
Speaker 2: So do I ask it, what moment of these games

1059
00:52:19,253 --> 00:52:22,013
Speaker 2: are you going to feel the biggest like pang in

1060
00:52:22,173 --> 00:52:24,973
Speaker 2: your chest, like, oh man, I wish I was out there.

1061
00:52:27,253 --> 00:52:30,053
Speaker 15: Probably when I'm at the track and you know, funny enough,

1062
00:52:30,093 --> 00:52:33,573
Speaker 15: it's probably maybe when I'm watching the woman shot, yeah, maybe, yeah.

1063
00:52:33,813 --> 00:52:34,013
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1064
00:52:34,373 --> 00:52:37,613
Speaker 15: Although I was at the Eugene World Championships the year

1065
00:52:37,693 --> 00:52:40,893
Speaker 15: after I the year i'd announced my retirement, and someone

1066
00:52:40,893 --> 00:52:42,813
Speaker 15: asked me if I was competing, Yeah, and I was

1067
00:52:42,853 --> 00:52:45,693
Speaker 15: actually going to watch the qualification. I was like, thank you,

1068
00:52:45,933 --> 00:52:47,933
Speaker 15: but no, actually I just got to be a spectator.

1069
00:52:48,133 --> 00:52:50,693
Speaker 15: But I think when the woman shots on, only because

1070
00:52:50,733 --> 00:52:53,653
Speaker 15: the last Olympic Games, the story and the hardship took

1071
00:52:53,693 --> 00:52:55,613
Speaker 15: me to get there, and you know, the COVID and

1072
00:52:55,653 --> 00:52:57,293
Speaker 15: all the rest of it, I think that's probably going

1073
00:52:57,373 --> 00:52:59,893
Speaker 15: to be like, oh crap, Like it would have would

1074
00:52:59,893 --> 00:53:01,493
Speaker 15: be nice to be out there. But at the same time,

1075
00:53:01,573 --> 00:53:04,773
Speaker 15: on the second breath, I'd be like, na broch, do

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00:53:04,893 --> 00:53:07,173
Speaker 15: so I know exactly how you're feeling, how you're feeling.

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00:53:07,613 --> 00:53:09,853
Speaker 15: You probably didn't sleep last night, probably hardly, you know,

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00:53:09,933 --> 00:53:13,013
Speaker 15: wanted to eat anything Like I am almost like undone

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Speaker 15: with that. You know, five Olympic Games is enough?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And how special to be there in this capacity

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Speaker 2: as well to be able to actually enjoy the games

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00:53:19,973 --> 00:53:21,013
Speaker 2: whilst also contributing.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely, And for you know, for me it's about

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Speaker 15: going there and on a different capacity but wanting to

1085
00:53:27,413 --> 00:53:29,653
Speaker 15: use your platform and your experience to make change, you know,

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00:53:29,773 --> 00:53:31,453
Speaker 15: because if you want to make change, you've got to

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Speaker 15: be at the table, not serving coffee to the people

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Speaker 15: at the table. And I soon realize, you know, I

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00:53:36,653 --> 00:53:39,693
Speaker 15: mean knew before ethics is are very europe centric. Sport

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Speaker 15: ethnics has are very you know, heavily focused on what's

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Speaker 15: happening in Europe and also America. Also, they've also got

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Speaker 15: to realize that, Ohian, your exist, South America exists, Africa exists,

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Speaker 15: you know. So I'm able to bring that aspect into

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Speaker 15: onto the table and actually have conversations with our council

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00:53:56,333 --> 00:53:58,613
Speaker 15: members to be able to just let them know remind

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Speaker 15: them that you know, we do exist down here, even

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Speaker 15: though our time zones are pretty effed up and we've

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Speaker 15: got to have meetings at one till four in the morning,

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Speaker 15: but we're here for it.

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Speaker 2: One last question. Have you been in France or in

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Speaker 2: Paris before where you haven't had to eat like an athlete?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 2: Because here's my tip, I reckon you want to you

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00:54:19,493 --> 00:54:22,253
Speaker 2: want to land in Paris and you immediately want to

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00:54:22,813 --> 00:54:25,573
Speaker 2: go to a patisseri or bologerie or whatever. Two arm

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00:54:25,613 --> 00:54:28,453
Speaker 2: and croissants just to start the day and champions breakfast

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00:54:28,533 --> 00:54:31,533
Speaker 2: and coffee of course, yeah, you can do that absolutely.

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Speaker 15: No, I haven't been there as a non athlete, so

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Speaker 15: I am looking forwards for and you some some buggets

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Speaker 15: bound and croissant.

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Speaker 2: There you go, perfect. Hey, it is so good to

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Speaker 2: see you enjoy enjoy the Olympic Games and all the

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Speaker 2: very best.

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Speaker 16: We will thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: That is Dame Valerie Adams. How good. Yes, less than

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Speaker 2: seven days now until the opening ceremony at Paris twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Right now, it's twenty three past ten.

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Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack

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Speaker 1: Tay and bepure dot co dot inst for high quality

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Speaker 1: Supplements Used Talk said.

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Speaker 2: Be hey, Jack, what refreshing interview with Dame Valerie this morning.

1122
00:55:08,813 --> 00:55:13,253
Speaker 2: Thank you. Honestly, I agree, and I just it's so funny.

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Speaker 2: I have had the privilege of interviewing Dame Vale like

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Speaker 2: quite a few times over the years, and you know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of the time it's like she was getting

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Speaker 2: ready for big competitions and had all the kind of

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Speaker 2: pressure with competitions and everything, but just there was just

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Speaker 2: such a it was so it was just lovely. I

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Speaker 2: really really enjoyed that, really enjoyed having a chat with her,

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Speaker 2: and I just hope she has the best time at

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Speaker 2: the games. If you want to flick us at text

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Speaker 2: this morning, ninety two ninety two as our text number,

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Speaker 2: Jackie News Talks b dot code olings ed is the

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Speaker 2: email address. If you are looking forward to a weekend

1135
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Speaker 2: of not feeling like an Olympic athlete, you just feel

1136
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Speaker 2: like plunking on the couch. Good news, Our screen time

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Speaker 2: expert Tara Ward is here with her picks for us

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 19: Hey Tara, good morning, I've got all us everyday athletes.

1140
00:55:55,213 --> 00:55:58,293
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Well, you know, recent recovery is a very

1141
00:55:58,293 --> 00:56:02,133
Speaker 2: important part of training, they say these days, it's all balanced, Tara.

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Speaker 2: So let's start off with the show streaming on Prime Video.

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00:56:05,173 --> 00:56:07,413
Speaker 2: Tell us about Those About to Die.

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00:56:08,173 --> 00:56:11,453
Speaker 19: Yeah, this is Prime Video's new big historical epic. It's

1145
00:56:11,533 --> 00:56:13,933
Speaker 19: the series they're hoping will become the next kind of

1146
00:56:14,013 --> 00:56:16,573
Speaker 19: Game of Thrones, and it's set in ancient Rome. It

1147
00:56:16,613 --> 00:56:19,613
Speaker 19: starts to Anthony Hopkins and it's about the dirty, corrupt

1148
00:56:19,693 --> 00:56:23,813
Speaker 19: business of entertaining the masses through gladiatorial sports. So it's

1149
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Speaker 19: about the people that run that world in Rome and

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00:56:25,893 --> 00:56:28,133
Speaker 19: the people who get caught up in it. And Anthony

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Speaker 19: Hopkins plays the improvis pat who is choosing which one

1152
00:56:31,933 --> 00:56:34,693
Speaker 19: of his sons to pass his throne onto and deciding

1153
00:56:34,733 --> 00:56:36,893
Speaker 19: who will have all that power to oversee the city

1154
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Speaker 19: and control the blood Sport. There's a lot going on here,

1155
00:56:40,373 --> 00:56:43,693
Speaker 19: lots of characters, lots of politics and power struggles, all

1156
00:56:43,813 --> 00:56:47,373
Speaker 19: through different aspects of society. And I think that's because

1157
00:56:47,413 --> 00:56:50,573
Speaker 19: the show is trying to recreate that game of throne

1158
00:56:50,653 --> 00:56:54,573
Speaker 19: scale and the vastness of the Roman Empire. And probably

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Speaker 19: the best part of this is the action sequences, the

1160
00:56:56,693 --> 00:56:59,933
Speaker 19: chariot races and the gladiator matches. The show is directed

1161
00:56:59,973 --> 00:57:02,813
Speaker 19: by Roland Emerick, who made films like Independence Day and

1162
00:57:02,893 --> 00:57:05,973
Speaker 19: The Day After Tomorrow. So there's lots of big visual moments,

1163
00:57:06,013 --> 00:57:10,333
Speaker 19: lots of CGI. Look, it's not the best well written

1164
00:57:10,373 --> 00:57:13,013
Speaker 19: show that the characters are a bit cliche, but it's entertaining,

1165
00:57:13,093 --> 00:57:14,733
Speaker 19: you know, it's a bit of fun and it really

1166
00:57:14,773 --> 00:57:16,213
Speaker 19: brings that Roman world to life.

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00:57:16,413 --> 00:57:18,813
Speaker 2: Nice, okay, cool, that's those about to die. It's on

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Speaker 2: Prime Video on Neon tell Us about the Jetty.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, this is a new BBC crime drama. It lands

1170
00:57:25,053 --> 00:57:28,173
Speaker 19: on Neon from tomorrow and if you enjoyed broad Church,

1171
00:57:28,293 --> 00:57:30,133
Speaker 19: I think you'll like this as well. It's a similar

1172
00:57:30,253 --> 00:57:33,333
Speaker 19: kind of police drama set in a small community where

1173
00:57:33,373 --> 00:57:36,653
Speaker 19: there's a lot of seedy stuff going on beneath the surface.

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00:57:37,013 --> 00:57:39,613
Speaker 19: This stars Gina Coleman. She plays a detective in a

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00:57:39,693 --> 00:57:43,413
Speaker 19: lakeside tourist town in the north of England. Her husband

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00:57:43,493 --> 00:57:46,213
Speaker 19: recently died, she's got a teenage daughter, and when a

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00:57:46,333 --> 00:57:49,693
Speaker 19: local boat house burns down, she starts linking that crime

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00:57:49,773 --> 00:57:52,973
Speaker 19: to a cold case disappearance and the pregnancy of a

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00:57:53,093 --> 00:57:55,573
Speaker 19: local teenage girl. And there's a lot of storylines in

1180
00:57:55,613 --> 00:57:57,893
Speaker 19: the first episode and obviously they're going to come together

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00:57:58,013 --> 00:58:00,493
Speaker 19: somehow as the show goes on. But it's set in

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00:58:00,533 --> 00:58:03,333
Speaker 19: a small community where everyone is connected and everyone knows

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00:58:03,413 --> 00:58:06,373
Speaker 19: everyone else's business. I will say the first fifteen minute

1184
00:58:06,573 --> 00:58:08,413
Speaker 19: also are a little bit slow, but stick with it.

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Speaker 19: Once it gets into the police drama, it really finds

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Speaker 19: its feet. It's very atmospheric and moody. Genna Coleman is

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00:58:14,693 --> 00:58:17,053
Speaker 19: great in this, and a lot of the early reviews

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00:58:17,053 --> 00:58:19,013
Speaker 19: competed it to Happy Valley. I'm not sure it's quite

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00:58:19,093 --> 00:58:22,173
Speaker 19: that strong, but it's a well made, slick thriller tax

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Speaker 19: all the boxes that you would expect, and with only

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Speaker 19: four episodes, it's a nice title story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah nice Okay. So that's on Neon, That's the Jetty

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00:58:29,253 --> 00:58:31,173
Speaker 2: and on Netflix. Skywalkers.

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Speaker 19: This is a new documentary that landed last night. And

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Speaker 19: if you're scared of heights, this might not be one

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Speaker 19: for you because this is about two Russian rooftoppers. And

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Speaker 19: a rooftopper is someone who climbs to the top of

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Speaker 19: skyscrapers or scaffolding or cranes without any safety gear on.

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Speaker 19: They do it just for fun, just because they can,

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Speaker 19: and you might see them on social media doing headstands

1201
00:58:51,173 --> 00:58:53,893
Speaker 19: or pirowetes hundreds of meters above the ground. And so

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00:58:54,053 --> 00:58:57,453
Speaker 19: this documentary follows two of those rooftoppers, Ivan and Angela,

1203
00:58:57,733 --> 00:59:00,493
Speaker 19: who met through rooftopping. They've fallen in love and they

1204
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Speaker 19: are training to climb one of the highest skyscrapers in

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00:59:03,333 --> 00:59:06,253
Speaker 19: the world in Malaysia together and so you get an

1206
00:59:06,853 --> 00:59:09,253
Speaker 19: to why they do. This's how they conquer those fears.

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Speaker 19: The cynical part of me, Jack says, social media plays

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00:59:12,253 --> 00:59:14,173
Speaker 19: a big part of this. It's all about being seen,

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00:59:14,373 --> 00:59:16,493
Speaker 19: getting that perfect sunset photo.

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Speaker 11: At the top.

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Speaker 19: But the photography in this documentary is incredible. My stomach

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00:59:20,613 --> 00:59:23,533
Speaker 19: turned several times just watching this because of the heights

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Speaker 19: and the risks they take. It is mind boggling. And

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Speaker 19: it's one of those documentaries that you watch, you know,

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00:59:28,533 --> 00:59:29,973
Speaker 19: your jaw dropping the whole time.

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Speaker 2: I can't watch it. I can't do it, Tara. No,

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Speaker 2: I just I don't think I can do it because

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Speaker 2: I just I find I mean, it's so dangerous. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is I can I can tell, this is me

1220
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Speaker 2: having moved from adolescence into middle age. I think, I

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00:59:43,733 --> 00:59:46,453
Speaker 2: just I can't even look at photographs of people taking

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Speaker 2: risks like this, knowing that they're okay, knowing that they've

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Speaker 2: posted the photographs. I can't look at it. But I'm

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Speaker 2: sure there'll be some people who've got stronger stomachs than me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. That's Skywalkers, So that's on Netflix. The Jetty

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Speaker 2: is on Neon, and Those About to Die, the one

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Speaker 2: with Sir Anthony Hopkins is on Prime Video. And I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what. Horra's picks have done very well at

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Speaker 2: the Emmy With the Emmy nominations, they're out this week

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Speaker 2: and they included some of our screen time favorites. The Bear,

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Speaker 2: which is that gritty one said in Chicago with the

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01:00:22,973 --> 01:00:27,733
Speaker 2: very hunky chef in a stressful kitchen that has been

1233
01:00:27,813 --> 01:00:30,773
Speaker 2: categorized as a comedy, which is pretty controversial. But it

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Speaker 2: picked up twenty three Emmy nominations for its second season,

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Speaker 2: which I think is the all time record for Emmy nominations.

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Speaker 2: Shogun had twenty five nominations, so I think The Bear

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Speaker 2: got twenty three for comedy, which is a record for

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Speaker 2: a comedy. Shogun got twenty five nominations for its inaugural

1239
01:00:48,453 --> 01:00:50,573
Speaker 2: season as well, and some New Zealand stuff did well.

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01:00:50,853 --> 01:00:53,733
Speaker 2: Wetter FX were up again for awards for their visual

1241
01:00:53,733 --> 01:00:56,893
Speaker 2: effect works for their work on Ripley and New Zealand

1242
01:00:56,933 --> 01:00:59,573
Speaker 2: created shows Reservation Dogs and What We Do in the

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Speaker 2: Shadow also received nominations, as did Annasawai. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it has just gone ten.

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Speaker 1: Thirty, getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: Team on News Talks.

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Speaker 2: B I give her my.

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Speaker 1: There's something.

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Speaker 2: This is Griff. Griff's one of the UK's kind her

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Speaker 2: fastest rising singer songwriters at the moment. She's made massive, massive, massive,

1251
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Speaker 2: bounds in the last couple of years, going from her

1252
01:01:47,573 --> 01:01:50,013
Speaker 2: self produced debut mixtape all the way to being an

1253
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Speaker 2: opening act for Taylor Swift at Wembley Stadium. Ain't no thing.

1254
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Speaker 2: Griff is a bit of a pop crafts woman. She's

1255
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Speaker 2: been described as tenacious, wise beyond her years, and now

1256
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Speaker 2: her debut album is out. It's called Vertigo and we'll

1257
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Speaker 2: be listening to that after eleven this morning. Speaking of Vertigo,

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Speaker 2: Michelle has sent me a note.

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Speaker 12: Jack.

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Speaker 2: You were the guy who put us onto the Free

1261
01:02:12,173 --> 01:02:14,613
Speaker 2: Solo movie. Come on, you absolutely loved it and you

1262
01:02:14,693 --> 01:02:18,293
Speaker 2: don't have the stomach for Scott. What is it Skywalkers?

1263
01:02:19,293 --> 01:02:23,253
Speaker 2: Someone it was Rooftoppers. No, it's Skywalkers. Yeah, good, very

1264
01:02:23,293 --> 01:02:26,373
Speaker 2: good point, Michelle. I'm more than prepared to hand that

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01:02:26,453 --> 01:02:28,773
Speaker 2: to you. I don't know why I could handle a

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01:02:28,933 --> 01:02:32,493
Speaker 2: movie about a guy climbing up El Capitan in the

1267
01:02:32,613 --> 01:02:35,813
Speaker 2: U Smite National Park without any ropes. But I can't

1268
01:02:35,853 --> 01:02:40,013
Speaker 2: look at photos of people climbing skyscrapers and dangling off intennas.

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01:02:40,813 --> 01:02:46,413
Speaker 2: I think there's like an element of professionalism. Maybe that

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01:02:46,533 --> 01:02:49,653
Speaker 2: comes with Free Solo. I don't know. Yeah, it's a

1271
01:02:49,733 --> 01:02:52,453
Speaker 2: totally legitimate point. I can't tell you why I distinguished

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Speaker 2: between those two things. Before eleven o'clock on news Talk,

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Speaker 2: he'd be the things you need to do in the

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Speaker 2: garden right now to make sure they're prime for spring.

1275
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Speaker 2: When it comes to fertilizing, Yes, there are lots of

1276
01:03:03,333 --> 01:03:05,733
Speaker 2: things you should be fertilizing in winter. So our man

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Speaker 2: in the garden going to give us his tips. Next up,

1278
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Speaker 2: our texpert on what this incredible IT outage actually means

1279
01:03:13,413 --> 01:03:15,133
Speaker 2: and what we can do to avoid it in the future.

1280
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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 20: Three hundred and eighty one thousand dollar. The main benefit

1282
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Speaker 20: sanctions are also up significantly in the job seeker area.

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Speaker 20: Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston with there's a

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Speaker 20: lot of people on the benefit it.

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Speaker 21: Is, and unfortunately the numbers that we were expecting were

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Speaker 21: these very challenging economic time.

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Speaker 20: How many people are on there because it's no fault

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Speaker 20: of their own versus how many people are on there

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Speaker 20: because they can't.

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Speaker 22: Be bothered, Well, I think that's the really difficult one.

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Speaker 21: I think there will be a chunk of them that

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Speaker 21: have got used to being comfortable there, But I think

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Speaker 21: the majority really will be in a position that they

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Speaker 21: want to be in work and the steps that they

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Speaker 21: can take to improve their chances.

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Speaker 20: Back Monday from six am the Mic Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 20: Mayley's Real Estate News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Well, they are already calling it the single biggest IT

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Speaker 2: outage in history. This issue with a company called CrowdStrike,

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Speaker 2: which provides cyber security services to various companies through Microsoft,

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Speaker 2: has effected thousands and thousands of operations around the world.

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Speaker 2: Our texpert Paul Stenhouse is here to explain it all

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Speaker 2: this morning. So, Paul, from what we know at this

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Speaker 2: stage what happened, this.

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Speaker 11: Is a mess.

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Speaker 23: These are companies that actually were trying to do the

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Speaker 23: right thing. I think that's the first thing to point out, right,

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Speaker 23: they actually invested in technology to try to prevent things

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Speaker 23: like ransomware attacks and effectively got ransomware attacked by the

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Speaker 23: very company providing the software to prevent it. Craziness. Now,

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Speaker 23: it seems that this wasn't actually a software update per

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Speaker 23: se that caused this, right, It was actually more of

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Speaker 23: a content update, And that's a little bit of a

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Speaker 23: different thing.

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Speaker 11: Why if we get.

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Speaker 23: Behind the scenes and talk about some of the nitty gritty. Usually,

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Speaker 23: when you do a software update, when you're going from

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Speaker 23: say version one point one to one point two, organizations

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Speaker 23: typically get the chance to re view that and they

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Speaker 23: choose when they would actually roll out that update.

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Speaker 11: They usually test it both. CrowdStrike would have tested it

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Speaker 11: very extensively.

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Speaker 23: The company that's going to roll it out to their

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Speaker 23: wide wide network would have tested it.

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Speaker 11: That didn't happen with this.

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Speaker 16: This was an automatic update.

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Speaker 11: That was sent globally to all of the crowd.

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Speaker 23: Strike customers basically to update their software to do, you know,

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Speaker 23: look at the latest detection algorithms and update information about threats.

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Speaker 23: It's like when you back in the day when you

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Speaker 23: had the antivirus your Norton's or your AVGS or whatever

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Speaker 23: it was, you used to go away once a week

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Speaker 23: and would get the latest updates. That's the best kind

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Speaker 23: of example of what we think this was trying to do.

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Speaker 23: It's the type of update that usually they just roll

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Speaker 23: out and it goes off without a hitch, and I've

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Speaker 23: probably done hundreds of them, not thousands of them, right, But.

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Speaker 11: There was something in this update where there was.

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Speaker 23: A file that was corrupted that when they rolled this

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Speaker 23: out to all the Windows machines. It didn't go so well.

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Speaker 23: And I think it's really important to note there was

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Speaker 23: nothing wrong with Microsoft or Windows say.

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Speaker 11: This wasn't anything to do with Microsoft.

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Speaker 23: It was just unfortunate that you know, there's largely three

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Speaker 23: types of operating systems, Windows.

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Speaker 11: Mac Os, and Linux.

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Speaker 23: Now, the Linux and mac Os updates either seemed to

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Speaker 23: go fine or they weren't updated at the same time,

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Speaker 23: but it was the.

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Speaker 11: Windows update that rarely just took down super large customers.

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Speaker 23: Crowdstrikes says on the website they have twenty nine thousand customers,

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Speaker 23: which does sound like a lot, but these are clearly large,

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Speaker 23: large corporations. And the thing is is they've taken down

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Speaker 23: This is the hard part, not just the terminals that

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Speaker 23: you can see and use, So not just when you

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Speaker 23: call someone call center and maybe it's taken down the

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Speaker 23: computer they are using to pull up the records. There's

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Speaker 23: a very good chance it also took down the server

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Speaker 23: in the background. And even worse is it could have

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Speaker 23: taken down the servers that hold the information about things

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Speaker 23: like encryption keys and other recovery methods needed to get

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Speaker 23: back in. We'll oh, this is for some companies, this

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Speaker 23: is going to be as bad as a ransomware attack

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Speaker 23: would have been, really truly and some of these machines.

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Speaker 23: So basically, when this got rolled out, it sent the

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Speaker 23: computers into a recovery boot loop.

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Speaker 11: So it's forced the.

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Speaker 23: Computer to restart it said there's an error. It can't

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Speaker 23: start restart in.

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Speaker 14: A way you go.

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Speaker 23: So the problem is that when they roll out this

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Speaker 23: new update, the computer actually has to get it, and

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Speaker 23: sometimes it can take fifteen updates, like going through the

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Speaker 23: restart process before the software downloads fixes itself and then

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Speaker 23: is able to actually boot properly. Some computers that are

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Speaker 23: using you know, encryption and things like that, they may

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Speaker 23: need to be manually updated each one, one by one,

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Speaker 23: and some of them may just be bricked and will

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Speaker 23: need to be completely reformatted.

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Speaker 11: Terrible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had sort of thought, oh, things look like

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Speaker 2: they're improving now, but if that's the case, it's going

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Speaker 2: to take ages to sort this out. Thank you so much, Paul.

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Speaker 2: That sounds what a fiasco, to say the least. That

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Speaker 2: sounds devastating and concerning, but remarkable that this has happened.

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Speaker 2: So obviously we're going to bring you any updates when

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Speaker 2: they come through to the newsroom. It looks like we're

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Speaker 2: going to be reporting on this for some time to come.

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Speaker 2: In a couple of minutes on news Talks, there'd be

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Speaker 2: we'll catch up with our master of wine. He's chosen

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Speaker 2: his best buy for us this week. Right now, it's

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Speaker 2: sixteen to eleven.

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Speaker 5: A little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and Bepart

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Speaker 1: on code Z for high quality Supplements used talk.

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Speaker 2: Zb it is one time with our master of Wine,

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Speaker 2: Bob Campbell. He picks his best buy for us every week.

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Speaker 2: Gold Bob, good morning morning for your best bye this week.

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Speaker 2: You've chosen a main divide Reasling twenty twenty three from

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Speaker 2: North Canterbury. So tell us about it.

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Speaker 22: Well, I love Reasoning, so it's always a pleasure to

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Speaker 22: to to display a wine of that. I'm so affectionate

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Speaker 22: towards Reasoning New Zealand. In my view, Reasoning is New

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Speaker 22: Zealand's top value wine. It's slightly unfashionable, so that drives

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Speaker 22: the price down, but it doesn't seem to affect the quality.

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Speaker 22: You can get great wines at good prices. The main

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Speaker 22: divide is also Pegasus spays the entry level wine and

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Speaker 22: Pegasus spay have got a history of producing cop top reasoning.

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Speaker 2: And what does it taste like, Bob?

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Speaker 22: Well, it's a slightly sweet reasoning with I call it

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Speaker 22: was restrained lusciousness that's sort of balanced by the rich

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Speaker 22: right acidity. It's got a suspicion of betritus, and I

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Speaker 22: should explain that betritus is a beneficial vineyard mold that

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Speaker 22: someone's called noble rot that adds weight in concentration to wine.

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Speaker 22: So that's a plus in my view. It's a good

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Speaker 22: sweet sour interaction. It gives the wine like a pleasing tension,

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Speaker 22: which is good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good, And you reckon this is really good value.

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Speaker 22: Yes, the regular retail price for this wine is twenty

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Speaker 22: one dollars ninety nine, but I found at Veno Fino

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Speaker 22: in christ Church for seventeen ninety nine. That's a really

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01:10:37,333 --> 01:10:40,933
Speaker 22: good price. Also the Wine Hub in christ Church for

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Speaker 22: twenty dollars. Cantabrians seem to appreciate good value wines.

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Speaker 2: It's always it doesn't have to travel quite as far,

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Speaker 2: does it, whether it's in pigs, which is good. So

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Speaker 2: what would what would you measure with Bob?

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Speaker 22: Well, I just enjoy it with the comp without the

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Speaker 22: complication of food. But if you do want food, you've

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Speaker 22: had something slightly sweet like apple tart is quite a

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Speaker 22: good match.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And do you think this will age?

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Speaker 22: Well? Yeah, it does age very well. It becomes richer

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Speaker 22: and more complex. It's sort of changes rather than gets better.

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Speaker 22: It gets better if you like that style of sort

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Speaker 22: of age reasoning, or otherwise drink it young. I quite

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Speaker 22: enjoy it when it's real little beef.

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Speaker 2: Very good. Okay, Bob's wine for us This week A

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Speaker 2: main divide Reasling twenty twenty three from North Canterbury, Jack Dam.

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Speaker 2: Today we have Lisa from Beech.

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Speaker 5: Gardening with steel shop free accessories this winter.

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Speaker 2: That's still shot climb passes our man in the garden killed.

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Speaker 11: Jack.

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Speaker 14: Is everything all right with your TOUI?

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Speaker 2: Everything is going very well with the TWI thank you.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I'm actually I'm actually leaving town for a

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Speaker 2: couple of days. So here's what I've had to do

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Speaker 2: with the bird feeders. I'm leaving town for five days

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Speaker 2: this week, and so I figured I'm worried that I've

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Speaker 2: created a dependence for both the tohoe, the Silver Eyes

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Speaker 2: and the twoy So I've been trying to wean them

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Speaker 2: off it, not not not wean them off completely, but

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Speaker 2: just try and reduce the dependency. So I've been putting

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Speaker 2: out a bottle every second day this week.

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Speaker 14: What do you think, Oh, good on you. Well, you

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Speaker 14: don't have to go that far. Honestly, they can cope

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Speaker 14: with that because they'll have other check teams in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I know, but I just I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I would, you know, hate to hate them starving while

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Speaker 2: I'm away.

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Speaker 14: They were, they were now, But honestly, I see my

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Speaker 14: my bellboards and Towho doing the same thing. They do

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Speaker 14: a circuit circuit literally around the neighborhood, and if somebody

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Speaker 14: goes on holiday or goes away or something like that,

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Speaker 14: they just go to somebody else. But they will always

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Speaker 14: come back to check.

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Speaker 2: You, Yeah, just to make sure, like to check if

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Speaker 2: it's there you mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, to make sure that you haven't hung something up

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Speaker 14: sneakily somewhere where they didn't know.

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Speaker 2: It was nice. Yeah, I love it. It's so so

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Speaker 2: nice and just one of those little things you can

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Speaker 2: do during the winter months. And of course that's what

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Speaker 2: you're focusing on this morning. Is this winter drags on?

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Speaker 22: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: I do, in fact, yeah, And I'll talk a little

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Speaker 14: bit more about birds another day in a couple of

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Speaker 14: weeks time. But yeah, right at the moment, of course,

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Speaker 14: because it's winter, everything is slowed down and there is

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Speaker 14: basically not much growth going on, et cetera, et cetera,

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Speaker 14: et cetera. Plants are dormant, which actually helps because it

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Speaker 14: means that you can actually transplant them or cut them,

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Speaker 14: you know what I mean, trim them and do all

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Speaker 14: that sort of stuff without causing a lot of troubles.

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Speaker 14: And a lot of people know that this time of

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Speaker 14: the year it's actually not a fabulous time to go

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Speaker 14: and fertilize them because they're not going to use the fertilizer. No,

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Speaker 14: that's as simple as that. So the NPK that we

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Speaker 14: normally use in spring and summer and autumn is no

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Speaker 14: longer if you like required as much. Right, But here

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Speaker 14: comes the thing. I often get questions at this time

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Speaker 14: of the year. For instance, why is my lemon tree

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Speaker 14: not fruiting that? Well, why isn't producing fruit? And you

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Speaker 14: get it for other trees of course, in the in

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Speaker 14: the other times of the year, and and and that

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Speaker 14: sort of you get those sort of questions, and now

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01:14:24,333 --> 01:14:27,013
Speaker 14: now you get the questions, I've just been burning my

1498
01:14:27,213 --> 01:14:32,133
Speaker 14: fireplace or or or you know, your ultra low emissions burner.

1499
01:14:32,773 --> 01:14:38,213
Speaker 14: Can I use that particular ash as pot ash which

1500
01:14:38,293 --> 01:14:40,173
Speaker 14: is the k of n p K.

1501
01:14:41,893 --> 01:14:45,493
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean? Ye, yes, yes you.

1502
01:14:45,613 --> 01:14:49,173
Speaker 14: Can, absolutely can, but don't go over the top. I

1503
01:14:49,253 --> 01:14:51,733
Speaker 14: would say, that's really not what you need to do.

1504
01:14:52,853 --> 01:14:56,053
Speaker 14: So yes you can use it. And basically what I

1505
01:14:56,133 --> 01:14:58,893
Speaker 14: do with my U L E B I I scrape

1506
01:14:58,933 --> 01:15:01,893
Speaker 14: off the ashes from the from the base if you like,

1507
01:15:02,773 --> 01:15:04,893
Speaker 14: from the base of the of the of the the heater,

1508
01:15:05,573 --> 01:15:08,293
Speaker 14: and I take it into the garden and I literally

1509
01:15:08,493 --> 01:15:12,253
Speaker 14: spread it very thinly over the root zone of the

1510
01:15:12,373 --> 01:15:15,853
Speaker 14: plants that are going to be using flowers and fruit

1511
01:15:16,213 --> 01:15:20,213
Speaker 14: in a couple of months time. If you would put

1512
01:15:20,253 --> 01:15:23,733
Speaker 14: it on too thick, it almost acts like.

1513
01:15:24,013 --> 01:15:25,893
Speaker 3: A what do you call it?

1514
01:15:26,293 --> 01:15:30,013
Speaker 14: A layer of of something that sticks to it. It's

1515
01:15:30,093 --> 01:15:32,613
Speaker 14: it's not nice. It's oh what do you call it? Well,

1516
01:15:32,693 --> 01:15:35,493
Speaker 14: it's yeah, it's almost like cement, but it's not like that,

1517
01:15:37,413 --> 01:15:38,213
Speaker 14: not to thick.

1518
01:15:38,373 --> 01:15:40,013
Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, okay, that's good.

1519
01:15:40,053 --> 01:15:43,053
Speaker 14: Okay, So let's number one, the ash from the fireplace. Yes,

1520
01:15:43,133 --> 01:15:44,813
Speaker 14: you can use that. And that is, of course the

1521
01:15:44,933 --> 01:15:49,093
Speaker 14: K by the way, pot ash. Potash, which is the K,

1522
01:15:49,933 --> 01:15:52,013
Speaker 14: by the way, case stands for carlium. Did you know

1523
01:15:52,093 --> 01:15:55,773
Speaker 14: that kalium. That's that's the Latin word for that particular

1524
01:15:55,893 --> 01:16:00,213
Speaker 14: K in the periodic system. And and and it's actually

1525
01:16:00,573 --> 01:16:03,213
Speaker 14: only the English and some other people have decided to

1526
01:16:03,293 --> 01:16:06,013
Speaker 14: call it potash, but still use the K as the

1527
01:16:06,853 --> 01:16:09,613
Speaker 14: the letter for the material. That's an interesting thing to

1528
01:16:09,653 --> 01:16:12,213
Speaker 14: have a look at. Sodium is another one, nautria. But anyway,

1529
01:16:12,533 --> 01:16:15,173
Speaker 14: spread it around your garden and do it when it's

1530
01:16:15,253 --> 01:16:18,773
Speaker 14: quite windy, so it actually goes like a dust all

1531
01:16:18,933 --> 01:16:22,973
Speaker 14: over the place, and slowly when it rains, it'll soak

1532
01:16:23,093 --> 01:16:26,493
Speaker 14: down into the ground. And by the time comes October

1533
01:16:26,613 --> 01:16:30,053
Speaker 14: or September or even August, sun plants and they start

1534
01:16:30,133 --> 01:16:33,173
Speaker 14: to the plants start to look for nutrients. They sundas

1535
01:16:33,573 --> 01:16:37,493
Speaker 14: as surrounded by the pottage. And that is going to

1536
01:16:37,573 --> 01:16:42,093
Speaker 14: be really cool for your spring flowering and spring fruiting

1537
01:16:42,413 --> 01:16:43,533
Speaker 14: expectally what it's about.

1538
01:16:43,653 --> 01:16:46,133
Speaker 2: Oh, very good, thank you, that's great.

1539
01:16:46,173 --> 01:16:46,453
Speaker 14: It's good.

1540
01:16:46,533 --> 01:16:49,173
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, very good. Yeah, how are you a David

1541
01:16:49,213 --> 01:16:49,853
Speaker 2: beacam fan.

1542
01:16:50,773 --> 01:16:53,173
Speaker 14: I certainly am because I always watched the soccer like

1543
01:16:53,253 --> 01:16:54,413
Speaker 14: I did of course last week.

1544
01:16:54,533 --> 01:16:57,813
Speaker 2: No good, yeah, very good. Okay, Well the reason I

1545
01:16:57,893 --> 01:16:59,333
Speaker 2: ask is I think we've got the book for you.

1546
01:16:59,533 --> 01:17:02,693
Speaker 2: After eleven o'clock this morning. Rude oh nice. Yeah, we're

1547
01:17:02,733 --> 01:17:05,093
Speaker 2: going to be catching up with our book reviewer Catherine

1548
01:17:05,133 --> 01:17:07,013
Speaker 2: and she's chosen a book that's she says it's all

1549
01:17:07,053 --> 01:17:10,653
Speaker 2: about money, sex and power, the Beckhams. So we're going

1550
01:17:10,733 --> 01:17:13,213
Speaker 2: to tell you about that. That'll be one for the

1551
01:17:13,293 --> 01:17:17,733
Speaker 2: Christmas stocking. Maybe rude out for you, Thank you very much, sir,

1552
01:17:17,933 --> 01:17:20,893
Speaker 2: catch you so as well as that. After eleven o'clock

1553
01:17:20,973 --> 01:17:24,373
Speaker 2: our sustainability expert with her top tips on reducing the

1554
01:17:24,493 --> 01:17:27,173
Speaker 2: amount of plastic in your home. That'll be really interesting.

1555
01:17:27,613 --> 01:17:29,893
Speaker 2: It's almost eleven o'clock though, News is Next Year with

1556
01:17:29,973 --> 01:17:32,093
Speaker 2: Jack Tam and This is News doorgs EDB.

1557
01:17:37,853 --> 01:17:41,573
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay keeping the conversation going through

1558
01:17:41,613 --> 01:17:44,813
Speaker 1: the weekend with Bpure dot cot dot inced for high

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01:17:44,933 --> 01:17:47,333
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1560
01:18:11,413 --> 01:18:14,693
Speaker 2: Cold It Easy, Good morning, Welcome to Newstalk's EDB. I

1561
01:18:14,773 --> 01:18:17,733
Speaker 2: feel like we are all focusing on warmer climbs today,

1562
01:18:18,933 --> 01:18:21,653
Speaker 2: especially with the Paris Olympics about to kick off, and

1563
01:18:21,733 --> 01:18:24,773
Speaker 2: of course the All Blacks playing in San Diego this afternoon.

1564
01:18:25,013 --> 01:18:26,653
Speaker 2: We're going to have the call live for you on

1565
01:18:26,733 --> 01:18:29,853
Speaker 2: newstalk ZEDB as they take on Fiji two thirty. That

1566
01:18:30,013 --> 01:18:32,573
Speaker 2: game is set to kick off. I think the stadium

1567
01:18:32,653 --> 01:18:36,733
Speaker 2: holds about twenty five thousand when it's totally full, so

1568
01:18:36,773 --> 01:18:38,693
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see what kind of crowd they

1569
01:18:38,773 --> 01:18:43,213
Speaker 2: can draw in southern California. But sticking with the warm

1570
01:18:43,933 --> 01:18:47,693
Speaker 2: climbs theme, very shortly, we're going to take you on

1571
01:18:47,813 --> 01:18:51,333
Speaker 2: a virtual trip to the Peloponnese Peninsula in Greece. When

1572
01:18:51,413 --> 01:18:54,173
Speaker 2: our travel correspondent joins us. Right now, it is eight

1573
01:18:54,253 --> 01:18:59,413
Speaker 2: minutes past eleven. Jack and our sustainability expert Kate Hall

1574
01:18:59,493 --> 01:19:03,493
Speaker 2: aka Ethically Kate, is here. Calder Kate, good morning.

1575
01:19:03,573 --> 01:19:04,653
Speaker 6: Have you passed it fore July?

1576
01:19:05,013 --> 01:19:05,213
Speaker 11: Oh?

1577
01:19:05,613 --> 01:19:08,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, happy player, stick free July. I would be lying

1578
01:19:08,973 --> 01:19:11,093
Speaker 2: if I said I knew this was the plastic free month.

1579
01:19:11,413 --> 01:19:14,693
Speaker 2: But also, but knowing you, I know that you will

1580
01:19:14,733 --> 01:19:16,933
Speaker 2: be leaning in harder than most. How is plastic free

1581
01:19:17,013 --> 01:19:17,773
Speaker 2: July going for you?

1582
01:19:19,013 --> 01:19:22,653
Speaker 6: Well, it's honest for me, like I think even last year,

1583
01:19:22,693 --> 01:19:25,013
Speaker 6: I kind of not boorycotted it, but I was a

1584
01:19:25,053 --> 01:19:25,453
Speaker 6: little bit.

1585
01:19:26,893 --> 01:19:29,293
Speaker 2: No, I think I know full July.

1586
01:19:30,213 --> 01:19:30,253
Speaker 5: No.

1587
01:19:32,173 --> 01:19:34,693
Speaker 6: I think it's just it can be it can feel

1588
01:19:34,773 --> 01:19:38,173
Speaker 6: really repetitive each year when you when the plastic free

1589
01:19:38,253 --> 01:19:41,693
Speaker 6: July comes around and you look around the world and

1590
01:19:41,773 --> 01:19:44,893
Speaker 6: you think, gosh, I've been doing this for like seven

1591
01:19:44,933 --> 01:19:47,253
Speaker 6: eight years now, and it you know, I can just

1592
01:19:47,453 --> 01:19:51,493
Speaker 6: it can feel like people do token stick actions during

1593
01:19:51,533 --> 01:19:54,893
Speaker 6: plasic free July and then you know, then they don't

1594
01:19:54,973 --> 01:19:56,013
Speaker 6: treat the rest.

1595
01:19:55,893 --> 01:20:00,573
Speaker 24: Of the year like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I

1596
01:20:00,653 --> 01:20:01,853
Speaker 24: mean yeah, not.

1597
01:20:01,893 --> 01:20:05,253
Speaker 6: To sound negative, but I guess I'm I don't go

1598
01:20:05,453 --> 01:20:08,573
Speaker 6: as all in a probably you'd expect me to, mainly

1599
01:20:08,693 --> 01:20:12,253
Speaker 6: because plastic isn't my only focus. To you know, plastica

1600
01:20:12,373 --> 01:20:14,213
Speaker 6: is a very small part of the king.

1601
01:20:15,253 --> 01:20:17,013
Speaker 2: I think it competed to most of us. You probably

1602
01:20:17,093 --> 01:20:20,413
Speaker 2: have a life that is more consciously free of plastic

1603
01:20:20,533 --> 01:20:21,413
Speaker 2: than most others.

1604
01:20:22,213 --> 01:20:24,013
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, but there's always there's.

1605
01:20:23,813 --> 01:20:29,213
Speaker 2: Always always exactly yeah, exactly. So you have some tips

1606
01:20:29,453 --> 01:20:32,613
Speaker 2: this morning, ten top tips on reducing plastic in our homes.

1607
01:20:33,013 --> 01:20:34,413
Speaker 2: So talk us through the first couple.

1608
01:20:35,733 --> 01:20:38,333
Speaker 6: So I thought this is kind of like a ten

1609
01:20:39,213 --> 01:20:41,933
Speaker 6: ten kind of as a simple list that people listening

1610
01:20:42,013 --> 01:20:44,213
Speaker 6: can either see how many they got out of ten,

1611
01:20:44,333 --> 01:20:46,333
Speaker 6: and I'd be interested to know how many you already

1612
01:20:46,373 --> 01:20:48,773
Speaker 6: do out of ten. Jack, yep, Yeah, So here we

1613
01:20:48,853 --> 01:20:52,813
Speaker 6: go quick fire. The first one, bring your own containers

1614
01:20:52,853 --> 01:20:56,093
Speaker 6: when you're eating out. So if you ring up to

1615
01:20:56,373 --> 01:20:59,973
Speaker 6: order Indian takeaways, bring your own containers to get them.

1616
01:21:00,813 --> 01:21:02,933
Speaker 6: Bring your own containers, just carry them in your car.

1617
01:21:03,733 --> 01:21:08,613
Speaker 6: If you're getting any food that is out reusable produce

1618
01:21:08,693 --> 01:21:12,253
Speaker 6: bags and grocery bags, so actually bringing them with you

1619
01:21:13,013 --> 01:21:18,453
Speaker 6: and not just buying another plastic based reusable bag. But

1620
01:21:18,653 --> 01:21:21,373
Speaker 6: actually we're using what you have. It's really really key.

1621
01:21:22,653 --> 01:21:24,133
Speaker 6: How are you going so fad to added two?

1622
01:21:25,213 --> 01:21:28,253
Speaker 2: I would I don't take my own containers when eating out,

1623
01:21:28,373 --> 01:21:33,373
Speaker 2: but that's because I usually eat everything. Yeah a peg,

1624
01:21:33,693 --> 01:21:35,573
Speaker 2: so I usually eat everything, So that's not usually.

1625
01:21:35,933 --> 01:21:37,893
Speaker 6: But I mean, like if you're getting you know how

1626
01:21:38,013 --> 01:21:40,533
Speaker 6: if you're getting takeaways, they're usually come in those pesky

1627
01:21:40,613 --> 01:21:45,213
Speaker 6: little reusable but it's still just wasteful. We have so

1628
01:21:45,413 --> 01:21:49,173
Speaker 6: much tougher at hard but that's good, there's room for improvement.

1629
01:21:50,813 --> 01:21:54,813
Speaker 6: Food one, avoid plastic food wrap, so I mean glad wrappers,

1630
01:21:54,933 --> 01:22:00,653
Speaker 6: so you know twenty eighteen. Yes, so putting bowls of

1631
01:22:00,773 --> 01:22:03,173
Speaker 6: your food to cover it, you know, reasonable containers, these

1632
01:22:03,413 --> 01:22:05,493
Speaker 6: X wraps, like, there's just so much we can do.

1633
01:22:05,893 --> 01:22:07,893
Speaker 6: I haven't the bread wrap for a long long time,

1634
01:22:08,093 --> 01:22:11,693
Speaker 6: and I get by no cup, no coffee. That's a

1635
01:22:11,813 --> 01:22:14,493
Speaker 6: rule that a lot of people around the country used

1636
01:22:14,613 --> 01:22:17,053
Speaker 6: to either sit down and have they have hair cup

1637
01:22:17,173 --> 01:22:19,813
Speaker 6: if they don't have their reasonable cup with them, because

1638
01:22:19,853 --> 01:22:22,493
Speaker 6: coffee cups are always lined with plastic. It doesn't matter

1639
01:22:22,893 --> 01:22:25,653
Speaker 6: what they're made from, they're yeah, no good and they're

1640
01:22:25,653 --> 01:22:30,413
Speaker 6: single used to shopping and bulk so for things like

1641
01:22:30,573 --> 01:22:36,373
Speaker 6: rice and baking ingredients, flour, sugar, chickpeas, seeds, bring your

1642
01:22:36,413 --> 01:22:39,373
Speaker 6: own jars to a bolkbin store and stocking out with

1643
01:22:39,453 --> 01:22:42,133
Speaker 6: those so you don't have any you know, the plastic

1644
01:22:42,173 --> 01:22:47,533
Speaker 6: bags around those items. Using bar soap or refilling your

1645
01:22:47,573 --> 01:22:49,933
Speaker 6: soap at refill store. So it's really a simple one.

1646
01:22:50,093 --> 01:22:53,053
Speaker 6: Just in your kind of your hand washing routine or

1647
01:22:53,373 --> 01:22:59,493
Speaker 6: your shower, just using classic bar, carrying reasable cutlery in

1648
01:22:59,613 --> 01:23:02,733
Speaker 6: your car or your handbag. It's really good, especially if

1649
01:23:02,733 --> 01:23:05,693
Speaker 6: you're going, you know, out festivals or if you're someone

1650
01:23:05,773 --> 01:23:08,453
Speaker 6: who is on the go a lot and eating a

1651
01:23:08,533 --> 01:23:12,533
Speaker 6: lot out ditching plastic bend liners.

1652
01:23:14,253 --> 01:23:15,893
Speaker 2: That's that's a hard one for a lot of people.

1653
01:23:16,653 --> 01:23:18,933
Speaker 2: And do you and you even Enclode, don't you you

1654
01:23:19,053 --> 01:23:22,093
Speaker 2: even include the ones that like disintegrate a whole lot faster.

1655
01:23:23,533 --> 01:23:26,053
Speaker 6: Yes, because I mean they're not they're going into lanfill

1656
01:23:26,173 --> 01:23:31,773
Speaker 6: and that's a yeah ear tight even compossible things. They're

1657
01:23:31,813 --> 01:23:33,973
Speaker 6: not going to really break down a lanfill. They're going

1658
01:23:34,053 --> 01:23:37,013
Speaker 6: to be mummy fied and we just don't need them.

1659
01:23:37,133 --> 01:23:40,933
Speaker 6: Like if you if you compast and sort your rubbish correctly,

1660
01:23:41,053 --> 01:23:43,573
Speaker 6: you're you don't need a bendliner. It's not stinky or

1661
01:23:43,653 --> 01:23:47,173
Speaker 6: missy or yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's a simple one. Saves

1662
01:23:47,213 --> 01:23:50,533
Speaker 6: money too to add bendliners when you're shocking this. So

1663
01:23:50,613 --> 01:23:53,973
Speaker 6: that's number eight. How you going? How many do you reckon?

1664
01:23:55,253 --> 01:23:59,373
Speaker 2: I reckon? I'm at about four four.

1665
01:24:00,173 --> 01:24:00,373
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1666
01:24:00,493 --> 01:24:01,493
Speaker 6: That's good because.

1667
01:24:03,173 --> 01:24:08,093
Speaker 2: You can you can now to improve Yeah exactly.

1668
01:24:08,573 --> 01:24:12,373
Speaker 6: Okay. Last two is stop buying bottled water or bottled drinks.

1669
01:24:12,893 --> 01:24:16,133
Speaker 2: I'm good there, I'm good, I'm in the clear there.

1670
01:24:16,293 --> 01:24:19,853
Speaker 6: Yeah, good because I thought because in New Zealand we're

1671
01:24:19,893 --> 01:24:23,253
Speaker 6: still so like it's amazing the clean water sources we

1672
01:24:23,373 --> 01:24:28,533
Speaker 6: have compared to other countries. It's just incredible that most

1673
01:24:28,613 --> 01:24:31,853
Speaker 6: taps we can just drink straight from and so, but

1674
01:24:31,973 --> 01:24:35,373
Speaker 6: the water, yeah, we still spend millions. I think it

1675
01:24:35,453 --> 01:24:38,493
Speaker 6: might even be billions of dollars a year on bottled

1676
01:24:38,493 --> 01:24:38,813
Speaker 6: water in.

1677
01:24:38,813 --> 01:24:41,173
Speaker 2: New Zealand as well as people who win. They you know,

1678
01:24:41,293 --> 01:24:45,293
Speaker 2: when like bottled water first became a thing, I was like, oh,

1679
01:24:45,653 --> 01:24:47,933
Speaker 2: that's never going to make any money. Look, what a

1680
01:24:48,093 --> 01:24:48,773
Speaker 2: dumb business.

1681
01:24:48,853 --> 01:24:49,213
Speaker 4: There is.

1682
01:24:49,373 --> 01:24:51,053
Speaker 2: No one's no it's even going to buy that. And

1683
01:24:51,133 --> 01:24:51,773
Speaker 2: it's like, oh.

1684
01:24:51,893 --> 01:24:53,813
Speaker 4: Okay, now it's oh my gosh.

1685
01:24:54,053 --> 01:24:57,093
Speaker 6: Yeah, even even here, you know, in a country that

1686
01:24:57,533 --> 01:25:02,893
Speaker 6: has running hat water that's generally clean, we still spend yeah,

1687
01:25:03,253 --> 01:25:06,013
Speaker 6: so much money. So that's a great money. Say the too, well,

1688
01:25:06,053 --> 01:25:09,293
Speaker 6: just bring your own reasonable bodle. And number ten is

1689
01:25:09,693 --> 01:25:13,213
Speaker 6: for the tea drinkers amongst us choosing loose leaf tea.

1690
01:25:13,413 --> 01:25:16,933
Speaker 6: So even our tea bags have macroplastics on them, and

1691
01:25:17,173 --> 01:25:20,053
Speaker 6: so loose leaf I also think is much more delicious.

1692
01:25:20,453 --> 01:25:27,413
Speaker 2: Oh man, I know, plastics just in everything, aren't they. Yeah?

1693
01:25:27,653 --> 01:25:30,853
Speaker 6: Yeah, well plastic three July. I mean you could look

1694
01:25:30,893 --> 01:25:34,693
Speaker 6: at yeah, most things in your in your life and

1695
01:25:34,773 --> 01:25:37,813
Speaker 6: your home and your pantry and plastic has in some

1696
01:25:38,653 --> 01:25:41,613
Speaker 6: shape or form, come into contact with every sing or.

1697
01:25:42,093 --> 01:25:43,373
Speaker 6: Yeah makes that so.

1698
01:25:43,493 --> 01:25:43,653
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1699
01:25:43,733 --> 01:25:48,013
Speaker 6: Number ten choose loose loose leaf tea. Some tea bag

1700
01:25:48,173 --> 01:25:52,733
Speaker 6: companies now they have tea bags that don't have macroplastics,

1701
01:25:52,853 --> 01:25:56,053
Speaker 6: but still it's still a single use item. I've got

1702
01:25:56,053 --> 01:25:58,373
Speaker 6: a little metal kind of tea strainer which is a

1703
01:25:58,493 --> 01:26:01,653
Speaker 6: reusable kind of like a reusable tea bag.

1704
01:26:01,733 --> 01:26:05,773
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, it kind of like has the pinching action.

1705
01:26:05,973 --> 01:26:06,093
Speaker 5: Eh.

1706
01:26:06,453 --> 01:26:09,293
Speaker 6: Yeah, You've got to be careful and not not kind

1707
01:26:09,293 --> 01:26:13,213
Speaker 6: of look at too too much otherwise loosely everywhere.

1708
01:26:13,453 --> 01:26:18,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I reckon, I'm going to say four

1709
01:26:18,493 --> 01:26:18,973
Speaker 2: and a half.

1710
01:26:19,933 --> 01:26:23,853
Speaker 6: Okay, that's good. It's not really it's good because no,

1711
01:26:24,053 --> 01:26:26,013
Speaker 6: but I think it's good because I get excited when

1712
01:26:26,013 --> 01:26:30,173
Speaker 6: there is room for improvement, because you know, like, yeah,

1713
01:26:30,693 --> 01:26:34,573
Speaker 6: that's it'll be interesting to know people listening what they

1714
01:26:34,653 --> 01:26:39,333
Speaker 6: got out of ten high. Yeah, well never is what

1715
01:26:39,413 --> 01:26:39,853
Speaker 6: we need to do.

1716
01:26:40,253 --> 01:26:43,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, no, very good. Hey, one questions has come through.

1717
01:26:44,093 --> 01:26:45,733
Speaker 2: What what about dog poo bags?

1718
01:26:46,933 --> 01:26:47,093
Speaker 20: Yeah?

1719
01:26:47,173 --> 01:26:51,093
Speaker 6: Dog poo bags? I mean when I had a dog,

1720
01:26:51,293 --> 01:26:54,613
Speaker 6: I carried a jar and a little scoop that was

1721
01:26:54,693 --> 01:26:58,533
Speaker 6: a reasonable sealed bag, and so I then took that

1722
01:26:58,613 --> 01:27:00,533
Speaker 6: home and put it in essentially just a hole in

1723
01:27:00,613 --> 01:27:02,653
Speaker 6: my garden. That was a dog poo compuff I made.

1724
01:27:03,173 --> 01:27:05,453
Speaker 6: So again dog poo bags same as beIN liners.

1725
01:27:06,133 --> 01:27:06,853
Speaker 22: Yeah, not good.

1726
01:27:07,373 --> 01:27:10,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of no winners there. It's sort of a

1727
01:27:10,213 --> 01:27:11,813
Speaker 2: grim sort of metal image.

1728
01:27:11,813 --> 01:27:12,013
Speaker 5: Really.

1729
01:27:12,413 --> 01:27:13,533
Speaker 6: I mean I felt like.

1730
01:27:13,693 --> 01:27:16,973
Speaker 24: When I'm walking along the yeah, scooping out my dog's

1731
01:27:17,053 --> 01:27:20,293
Speaker 24: poona jar, because that created some really good chats and.

1732
01:27:22,853 --> 01:27:25,973
Speaker 2: You got a good scooper. Maybe the scooper is actually

1733
01:27:26,053 --> 01:27:28,093
Speaker 2: less grim than doing the kind of the hand and

1734
01:27:28,173 --> 01:27:30,133
Speaker 2: the bag reversed, you know that technique.

1735
01:27:30,173 --> 01:27:34,133
Speaker 24: That's quite great, exactly, it's quite grim. The warm Yeah,

1736
01:27:35,093 --> 01:27:39,053
Speaker 24: with a scoop I can honestly stand. I can honestly

1737
01:27:39,173 --> 01:27:42,053
Speaker 24: say after four years of using a scoop and a jar,

1738
01:27:42,773 --> 01:27:45,173
Speaker 24: I didn't touch like, I didn't get dogs.

1739
01:27:45,133 --> 01:27:47,533
Speaker 6: On me, you know, like it's it was. I found

1740
01:27:47,533 --> 01:27:50,613
Speaker 6: the scoop plastic and handshop and found a jar that

1741
01:27:50,693 --> 01:27:53,573
Speaker 6: was a perfect size of the size of my dog's poos.

1742
01:27:54,733 --> 01:27:57,853
Speaker 2: That's very good, Thank you so much. I'll be fascinated

1743
01:27:57,893 --> 01:28:00,133
Speaker 2: to see how people go with that list of ten

1744
01:28:00,213 --> 01:28:02,413
Speaker 2: items or ten things you can do to reduce plastic

1745
01:28:02,933 --> 01:28:06,733
Speaker 2: and plastic usage in Plastic Free July. So there we've

1746
01:28:06,773 --> 01:28:08,933
Speaker 2: got so far four and a half out of ten.

1747
01:28:09,053 --> 01:28:11,333
Speaker 2: That's mine. I reckon you can beat that. Ninety two

1748
01:28:11,453 --> 01:28:13,893
Speaker 2: ninety two is the text number seventeen past eleven on

1749
01:28:14,013 --> 01:28:16,173
Speaker 2: News Twoks he'd be travel with.

1750
01:28:16,333 --> 01:28:20,173
Speaker 1: Wendy WU Tours unique Fully Inclusive Tours around the World.

1751
01:28:20,413 --> 01:28:22,893
Speaker 2: Mike Hardley is that travel corresponding Good morning sir.

1752
01:28:23,613 --> 01:28:24,453
Speaker 4: Good morning Jack.

1753
01:28:24,573 --> 01:28:26,573
Speaker 10: No predictions in the sporting world.

1754
01:28:27,453 --> 01:28:29,173
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you said it because it was on

1755
01:28:29,253 --> 01:28:31,053
Speaker 2: the tip of my tongue. It was on the tip

1756
01:28:31,133 --> 01:28:33,293
Speaker 2: of my tongue. It was a good game last week though.

1757
01:28:33,373 --> 01:28:35,533
Speaker 2: It was a good game, very good game.

1758
01:28:35,573 --> 01:28:38,173
Speaker 10: I'll tell you what. I'm very excited for Hamilton Boys

1759
01:28:38,253 --> 01:28:38,813
Speaker 10: high today.

1760
01:28:39,133 --> 01:28:43,613
Speaker 2: Courtiers and no oh yeah right, yeah. I thought played

1761
01:28:43,653 --> 01:28:46,533
Speaker 2: so well last week, really good. I think he is

1762
01:28:46,573 --> 01:28:47,853
Speaker 2: a high stress moment as well.

1763
01:28:48,333 --> 01:28:51,213
Speaker 10: Oh totally. You know, I think he of the three,

1764
01:28:51,293 --> 01:28:53,493
Speaker 10: I know TJ's obviously out, but of the three, I

1765
01:28:53,573 --> 01:28:55,533
Speaker 10: think Courtiers would be my starting pack.

1766
01:28:55,773 --> 01:28:57,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he might be mine as well. Actually well,

1767
01:28:57,773 --> 01:29:00,093
Speaker 2: so I've just based on that performance last week, as

1768
01:29:00,253 --> 01:29:02,053
Speaker 2: you know. Anyway, so it'll be interesting to see how

1769
01:29:02,133 --> 01:29:05,573
Speaker 2: he goes this afternoon. But this morning we are focusing

1770
01:29:05,653 --> 01:29:09,373
Speaker 2: on the pellop Knees Peninsula. Say that three times fast

1771
01:29:09,573 --> 01:29:13,333
Speaker 2: are the Peloponnese Peninsula and Greece. So compared to Athens,

1772
01:29:13,613 --> 01:29:17,453
Speaker 2: compared to the Greek islands, this is a lesser traffic,

1773
01:29:17,613 --> 01:29:19,533
Speaker 2: slightly less touristy region.

1774
01:29:19,373 --> 01:29:23,173
Speaker 10: Right, definitely, jack yep, far less trampled. But it's the

1775
01:29:23,333 --> 01:29:27,413
Speaker 10: stuff of legends. And as you wander around the peninsula,

1776
01:29:27,573 --> 01:29:32,493
Speaker 10: it's like myth and history just constantly overlap. It's where

1777
01:29:32,773 --> 01:29:37,053
Speaker 10: Paris of Troy eloped with Helen, the Argonauts set sail

1778
01:29:37,133 --> 01:29:39,813
Speaker 10: and said to the Golden fleece. It's where gods walk

1779
01:29:39,893 --> 01:29:43,293
Speaker 10: to the earth, meddling and mortal affairs. So for history buffs,

1780
01:29:43,733 --> 01:29:47,053
Speaker 10: there's just so much to blow the mind in southern Greece.

1781
01:29:47,253 --> 01:29:51,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Paris Olympics, of course less than seven days away. Now,

1782
01:29:51,293 --> 01:29:52,253
Speaker 2: so what about Olympia.

1783
01:29:53,133 --> 01:29:55,533
Speaker 10: Yeah, the western Peloponnese is home to the Valley of

1784
01:29:55,573 --> 01:29:57,853
Speaker 10: the Gods. So this is where the ancient Olympics began

1785
01:29:57,973 --> 01:30:00,493
Speaker 10: nearly three thousand years ago. And it's interesting when you

1786
01:30:00,573 --> 01:30:03,693
Speaker 10: look back at the history, all regional hostilities would be

1787
01:30:03,813 --> 01:30:08,053
Speaker 10: suspended for these games, which were very much staged in

1788
01:30:08,133 --> 01:30:11,493
Speaker 10: the honor of the God of God's Zeus. And when

1789
01:30:11,533 --> 01:30:14,773
Speaker 10: you go to Olympia today, there's not actually a lot

1790
01:30:14,973 --> 01:30:19,493
Speaker 10: left from the majestic temples and the athletic facilities, because

1791
01:30:20,053 --> 01:30:23,173
Speaker 10: the Roman emperor at the time ordered them destroyed as

1792
01:30:23,293 --> 01:30:26,653
Speaker 10: he converted to Christianity. But you do still get a

1793
01:30:26,813 --> 01:30:30,453
Speaker 10: hint of the sanctuary's former glory. And of course it's

1794
01:30:30,493 --> 01:30:33,213
Speaker 10: still here that the Olympic Flame begins its journey every

1795
01:30:33,253 --> 01:30:33,733
Speaker 10: four years.

1796
01:30:33,933 --> 01:30:37,173
Speaker 2: And Olympia wasn't the only meeting place right for ancient

1797
01:30:37,333 --> 01:30:39,293
Speaker 2: sporting festivals in Greece.

1798
01:30:39,733 --> 01:30:42,013
Speaker 10: That's right. And the reason I thought we'd mentioned this

1799
01:30:42,213 --> 01:30:44,693
Speaker 10: is because I went to a place called Epidorus in

1800
01:30:44,973 --> 01:30:49,053
Speaker 10: the Peloponnese, and you do get a real flavor for

1801
01:30:49,493 --> 01:30:54,773
Speaker 10: ancient sporting conquests at Epidorus. The place is home to

1802
01:30:55,013 --> 01:31:00,573
Speaker 10: what they call the Sanctuary of Asclepius. Now, Asclepius was

1803
01:31:00,653 --> 01:31:02,853
Speaker 10: the god of medicine and the son of Apollo Jack,

1804
01:31:03,173 --> 01:31:07,213
Speaker 10: But three thousand years ago this sanctuary was famed across

1805
01:31:07,333 --> 01:31:11,333
Speaker 10: the Mediterranean as a place of miraculous healing and apparently

1806
01:31:11,453 --> 01:31:15,973
Speaker 10: being licked by a snake was considered the most powerful cure,

1807
01:31:16,093 --> 01:31:20,213
Speaker 10: believe it or not. But alongside their medicine, they also

1808
01:31:20,413 --> 01:31:25,533
Speaker 10: staged amazing sporting contests. And you can still see the

1809
01:31:25,653 --> 01:31:30,453
Speaker 10: ancient stadium at Epidorus and also this massive amphitheater, one

1810
01:31:30,533 --> 01:31:34,653
Speaker 10: of the best preserved ancient theess of Greece. So it

1811
01:31:34,733 --> 01:31:37,893
Speaker 10: seats about fourteen thousand people and I just love it.

1812
01:31:38,013 --> 01:31:41,133
Speaker 10: How at these ancient theaters you go on to the stage,

1813
01:31:41,533 --> 01:31:44,933
Speaker 10: you drop a coin and it can be crisply heard

1814
01:31:44,973 --> 01:31:49,853
Speaker 10: from the highest seat. You cannot beat old school acoustics.

1815
01:31:50,013 --> 01:31:53,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's cool. Okay, what's so popular about Naplio?

1816
01:31:54,453 --> 01:31:57,653
Speaker 10: Yeah, this is just twenty minutes down the coast from Epidorus,

1817
01:31:57,773 --> 01:32:02,893
Speaker 10: and Naplio is a sweetheart spot. It's considered by Greeks

1818
01:32:03,293 --> 01:32:06,213
Speaker 10: as one of their most romantic cities and it was

1819
01:32:06,373 --> 01:32:10,133
Speaker 10: actually the first capital of the newly born Greek state

1820
01:32:10,293 --> 01:32:13,573
Speaker 10: back in the early eighteen hundreds. So lots of architectural

1821
01:32:13,613 --> 01:32:20,133
Speaker 10: eye candy, lots of hilltop castles, Ottoman fountains, Venetian townhouses,

1822
01:32:20,733 --> 01:32:24,693
Speaker 10: and interestingly, if you're a fan of Bucklaver, which is

1823
01:32:24,893 --> 01:32:31,253
Speaker 10: such a loved sweet treat right across the keeping the

1824
01:32:31,333 --> 01:32:35,253
Speaker 10: Turks love, and of course Info They've got their own variation.

1825
01:32:35,773 --> 01:32:38,693
Speaker 10: It's raisin Bucklover, which.

1826
01:32:39,573 --> 01:32:41,413
Speaker 5: Is really really good.

1827
01:32:41,493 --> 01:32:43,053
Speaker 10: I would get a godful or two of that.

1828
01:32:43,213 --> 01:32:47,653
Speaker 2: Jack raisin Bucklover, okay, because sometimes you don't want to

1829
01:32:47,693 --> 01:32:50,013
Speaker 2: mess with the classics. But I'm open minded when it

1830
01:32:50,093 --> 01:32:52,453
Speaker 2: comes to my Aegean sweets.

1831
01:32:52,613 --> 01:32:56,453
Speaker 10: Okay, that is true, by the way. Yeah, once you've

1832
01:32:56,493 --> 01:32:59,853
Speaker 10: had a gobful of raisin Bucklaver, definitely go to a

1833
01:32:59,933 --> 01:33:05,573
Speaker 10: souvenir shop Info because they are very very famous amongst

1834
01:33:05,693 --> 01:33:09,973
Speaker 10: Greek as the city that produces the best worry beads

1835
01:33:10,093 --> 01:33:13,893
Speaker 10: conboloi and it's because of the amber beads. All of

1836
01:33:13,973 --> 01:33:17,173
Speaker 10: the amber beads are produced in Naplio, So if you

1837
01:33:17,213 --> 01:33:20,413
Speaker 10: want a real authentic souvenir, you can go wrong with

1838
01:33:20,533 --> 01:33:22,653
Speaker 10: a conbloi from Naplio.

1839
01:33:22,853 --> 01:33:25,733
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, that sounds awesome. So for history buffs, what

1840
01:33:26,093 --> 01:33:28,933
Speaker 2: ancient site would you say is the best of all?

1841
01:33:30,093 --> 01:33:36,013
Speaker 10: Do not miss Myceny. The myceny in civilization dominated Greece

1842
01:33:36,093 --> 01:33:39,653
Speaker 10: a thousand years before the Golden Age of Athens. And

1843
01:33:40,253 --> 01:33:42,813
Speaker 10: the thing about Mysony is not only did it call

1844
01:33:42,893 --> 01:33:45,653
Speaker 10: the shots over much of the Mediterranean over three thousand

1845
01:33:45,733 --> 01:33:49,373
Speaker 10: years ago. But the ancient citadel which you can see

1846
01:33:49,413 --> 01:33:55,213
Speaker 10: today has been so incredibly preserved. Now, the legend is

1847
01:33:55,293 --> 01:34:00,693
Speaker 10: it Jack that Cyclops was enlisted to help build Mysony,

1848
01:34:01,533 --> 01:34:04,373
Speaker 10: And when you look at the size of the stone

1849
01:34:04,413 --> 01:34:08,173
Speaker 10: blocks and its fortress war you do have to wonder

1850
01:34:08,813 --> 01:34:12,973
Speaker 10: those limestone blocks weigh six ton.

1851
01:34:14,533 --> 01:34:15,213
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

1852
01:34:15,893 --> 01:34:18,053
Speaker 10: How did they do that? Yeah, three and a half

1853
01:34:18,133 --> 01:34:18,973
Speaker 10: thousand years ago?

1854
01:34:20,293 --> 01:34:26,373
Speaker 2: That is stunning, isn't it? Speaking of engineering, the Curranth Canal, Yes.

1855
01:34:26,373 --> 01:34:29,053
Speaker 10: Well, with a photo stop at comes a path through

1856
01:34:29,133 --> 01:34:32,133
Speaker 10: the Corinth Esthmus, which links the G and C with

1857
01:34:32,253 --> 01:34:35,813
Speaker 10: the Ionian Sea. So this canal enabled a four hundred

1858
01:34:35,893 --> 01:34:40,933
Speaker 10: kilometers shortcut for ships heading to Athens. But it's amazing

1859
01:34:41,013 --> 01:34:44,293
Speaker 10: because imprior Nero was actually the first to start building

1860
01:34:44,373 --> 01:34:47,573
Speaker 10: this canal over two thousand years ago. It was abandoned

1861
01:34:47,653 --> 01:34:52,693
Speaker 10: when he died and it wasn't actually started again until

1862
01:34:52,773 --> 01:34:55,533
Speaker 10: the nineteenth century. And it was actually the Sewers Canal

1863
01:34:56,053 --> 01:34:58,973
Speaker 10: that inspired the success of the Corinth Canal. But yeah,

1864
01:34:58,973 --> 01:35:00,133
Speaker 10: it's a gorgeous site.

1865
01:35:00,293 --> 01:35:04,573
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, that's amazing. So is the Peloponnese Peninsula

1866
01:35:04,653 --> 01:35:05,373
Speaker 2: easy to get to?

1867
01:35:06,413 --> 01:35:06,493
Speaker 6: Yes?

1868
01:35:06,613 --> 01:35:06,813
Speaker 22: It is.

1869
01:35:07,093 --> 01:35:10,013
Speaker 10: So it's only about an hour or so west of Athens,

1870
01:35:10,333 --> 01:35:12,973
Speaker 10: and it's if you look at a map, you'll notice

1871
01:35:12,973 --> 01:35:16,493
Speaker 10: that it's like this peninsula hanging kind of dangling from

1872
01:35:16,533 --> 01:35:19,893
Speaker 10: the rest of the Greek mainland by that narrow isthmus

1873
01:35:19,893 --> 01:35:23,453
Speaker 10: Slippernth canal. So you can do it by way of

1874
01:35:23,613 --> 01:35:26,773
Speaker 10: day trips. So there's lots of guided tours day trips

1875
01:35:26,853 --> 01:35:29,893
Speaker 10: from Ethens. If you've got a bit longer, just self

1876
01:35:30,013 --> 01:35:33,453
Speaker 10: drive your way around the region. It's a revelation and

1877
01:35:33,573 --> 01:35:36,293
Speaker 10: it's a head blast with epic ancient history.

1878
01:35:36,453 --> 01:35:39,053
Speaker 2: That sounds so good. Hey, thank you, Mike, really really

1879
01:35:39,133 --> 01:35:42,053
Speaker 2: appreciate that. Enjoy the game this afternoon without having made

1880
01:35:42,093 --> 01:35:45,773
Speaker 2: any bold predictions. Eh, thank you, Jack good Man. Mike Yardley,

1881
01:35:45,813 --> 01:35:48,413
Speaker 2: I travel correspondent there will put his tips for exploring

1882
01:35:48,453 --> 01:35:52,973
Speaker 2: the Pallow Ponnese Peninsula and Greece up on the newstalk'sz'db website.

1883
01:35:53,013 --> 01:35:55,533
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your feedback. Bills look in

1884
01:35:55,613 --> 01:35:57,973
Speaker 2: your note to say Jack, you know how career bags

1885
01:35:57,973 --> 01:35:59,893
Speaker 2: are really strong, you know, sometimes they can be really

1886
01:35:59,893 --> 01:36:03,173
Speaker 2: hard to open as well. They make great washable binliners.

1887
01:36:03,213 --> 01:36:07,333
Speaker 2: I've used the same one for about three years. Wow, Bill,

1888
01:36:07,453 --> 01:36:10,453
Speaker 2: that's impressive. Just wash it out with warm sobe water

1889
01:36:10,573 --> 01:36:14,573
Speaker 2: when needed, says Bill. The record so far six out

1890
01:36:14,613 --> 01:36:18,253
Speaker 2: of ten of Kate's plastic free so I was four

1891
01:36:18,413 --> 01:36:20,493
Speaker 2: out of ten, which I thought was I thought was

1892
01:36:20,533 --> 01:36:22,813
Speaker 2: pretty average. But six out of ten isn't. It's only

1893
01:36:22,933 --> 01:36:25,013
Speaker 2: fifty percent improvement. It's not that far ahead, is it.

1894
01:36:25,373 --> 01:36:25,413
Speaker 5: No?

1895
01:36:25,573 --> 01:36:27,653
Speaker 2: One close to ten out of ten. Year ninety two

1896
01:36:27,773 --> 01:36:29,493
Speaker 2: ninety two is our text number if you want to

1897
01:36:29,533 --> 01:36:31,613
Speaker 2: send me your text message. It has just come out

1898
01:36:31,653 --> 01:36:34,413
Speaker 2: to eleven thirty. You're Jack Tame in this this Newstalk's EDB.

1899
01:36:38,293 --> 01:36:39,933
Speaker 5: Getting your weekends started.

1900
01:36:40,133 --> 01:37:03,973
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on Newstalks EDB, New

1901
01:37:04,133 --> 01:37:04,733
Speaker 1: Stalks B.

1902
01:37:04,813 --> 01:37:07,213
Speaker 2: You were Jack Tame just after eleven two on your Saturday.

1903
01:37:07,453 --> 01:37:11,733
Speaker 2: Jason Pine has a vital job this afternoon getting us

1904
01:37:12,053 --> 01:37:14,413
Speaker 2: all prepped and ready for the All Blacks kicking off

1905
01:37:14,413 --> 01:37:18,573
Speaker 2: against Fiji San Diego of course at two thirty this afternoon.

1906
01:37:18,653 --> 01:37:21,493
Speaker 2: Hey piney, Hey Jack, how are you feeling about this one?

1907
01:37:22,173 --> 01:37:25,693
Speaker 2: Is there any possibility do you think that maybe we're

1908
01:37:25,733 --> 01:37:29,013
Speaker 2: just taking this game a little too lightly? I wouldn't

1909
01:37:29,053 --> 01:37:29,533
Speaker 2: have thought so.

1910
01:37:29,973 --> 01:37:32,013
Speaker 25: I think when the All Blacks play FIGI we should

1911
01:37:32,013 --> 01:37:33,853
Speaker 25: expect the All Blacks to win that game, you know,

1912
01:37:34,053 --> 01:37:37,213
Speaker 25: much as Fiji have improved markedly in recent years. They

1913
01:37:37,253 --> 01:37:39,213
Speaker 25: beat England at twicken them last year beat Australia at

1914
01:37:39,253 --> 01:37:41,213
Speaker 25: Rugby World Cup. That's a low bar, of course, but

1915
01:37:42,013 --> 01:37:45,213
Speaker 25: you know they have improved the fact that this game

1916
01:37:45,293 --> 01:37:49,133
Speaker 25: is at a neutral venue probably doesn't help either side.

1917
01:37:49,213 --> 01:37:49,453
Speaker 4: Really.

1918
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Speaker 2: I think if it was up in Suva and you and.

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Speaker 25: I talked, you know, on the Drive show yesterday about

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Speaker 25: how good it would have been if we were looking

1921
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Speaker 25: forward to a game in Fiji, we're not.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that plays into it. The All

1923
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Speaker 2: Blacks should win.

1924
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Speaker 25: A lot of guys going to get a chance to

1925
01:38:03,773 --> 01:38:06,773
Speaker 25: debut this afternoon and push their case for play in

1926
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Speaker 25: the Rugby Championship starting fifteen or off the bench. I

1927
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Speaker 25: think it'll be pretty comfortable, but I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 25: I think after two tough test matches against England, I

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Speaker 25: don't think we'll have the stress levels we had the

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Speaker 25: last two cent No, no, no.

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Speaker 2: I think I think hopefully all going well that should

1932
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Speaker 2: be the case. What do you make of this Warrior's

1933
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Speaker 2: performance last night? I know Andrew Webs is not trying

1934
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Speaker 2: to blame Janelle Harris Taveta, But this is going to

1935
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Speaker 2: people will scoff at this. I reckon I could have

1936
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Speaker 2: made those kicks, at least one of them. At the end,

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Speaker 2: I feel very confident I could have made it that conversion.

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Speaker 25: And look, I think most people would say the same.

1939
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Speaker 25: But you know, more correctly, most people, most professional rugby

1940
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Speaker 25: league players who are in charge of place kicking, would

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Speaker 25: make that. And yeah, it wasn't the reason they lost, no,

1942
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Speaker 25: but the fact remains, if that kick goes over the

1943
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Speaker 25: one that the last one he misses, the scores are

1944
01:38:58,133 --> 01:39:00,093
Speaker 25: level and we're down a different path.

1945
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Speaker 4: Right.

1946
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Speaker 25: It just feels like another one that got away from

1947
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Speaker 25: the Warriors. You know, it's very very hard to to

1948
01:39:07,373 --> 01:39:09,973
Speaker 25: unpick what's going on. Remember at the start of the season, Jack,

1949
01:39:10,013 --> 01:39:12,053
Speaker 25: you know, this is a team largely built on last

1950
01:39:12,133 --> 01:39:14,693
Speaker 25: year's team that was so good, plus with some additions

1951
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Speaker 25: the likes of Roger to Varsischek Chanel, Harris Tavita, Kurt Capewell.

1952
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Speaker 25: You know, it's a good team. And now we're into

1953
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Speaker 25: mathematical possibility discussion again. When it comes to the top eight.

1954
01:39:26,733 --> 01:39:29,173
Speaker 25: We were all hoping this would be top four, even

1955
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Speaker 25: top two, and it just hasn't gone to plan at all.

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Speaker 25: So yeah, we will unpack that this afternoon straight away,

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Speaker 25: after midday, actually before we start our rugby build up.

1958
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Speaker 25: But as you say, look I only have to get

1959
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Speaker 25: us through to a round two thirty this afternoon, so

1960
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Speaker 25: it's actually depending which way you look at it, the

1961
01:39:44,573 --> 01:39:47,853
Speaker 25: show's either shorter or longer than it usually is. Yeah,

1962
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Speaker 25: I don't have quite as much to do, but I

1963
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Speaker 25: am looking forward to Elliott Smith and Frank Buntz bringing

1964
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Speaker 25: us this call this afternoon.

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Speaker 12: Good.

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Speaker 2: And then of course this time next week the Olympic

1967
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Speaker 2: Games will have officially started. At the very least we

1968
01:39:59,013 --> 01:40:00,933
Speaker 2: will have had the opening ceremony and those couple of

1969
01:40:00,973 --> 01:40:02,933
Speaker 2: sports that start early and that kind of thing. How

1970
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Speaker 2: are you feeling about it?

1971
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Speaker 22: Oh?

1972
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Speaker 25: So excited. I love an Olympic Games, and look I

1973
01:40:07,053 --> 01:40:09,573
Speaker 25: just can't wait to become an expert in fencing and

1974
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Speaker 25: wrestling and sport climbing.

1975
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Speaker 2: I wanted to say about the gym, like the floor

1976
01:40:15,213 --> 01:40:18,613
Speaker 2: competitions and the gymnastics, Yeah, absolutely, all that stuff.

1977
01:40:18,653 --> 01:40:20,813
Speaker 25: Yeah, you know, for two weeks every four years, we

1978
01:40:20,933 --> 01:40:24,093
Speaker 25: become experts in sports we never normally watch. Yeah, I

1979
01:40:24,253 --> 01:40:27,373
Speaker 25: love the Olympic Games and I cannot wait to be

1980
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Speaker 25: part of our coverage of it over the next two weeks.

1981
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Speaker 2: We'll say it's going to be epic. Thank you so much, sir.

1982
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Speaker 2: Looking forward to shafternoon, Jason pine behind the mic for

1983
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Speaker 2: weekend sport. He will be with us right after twelve

1984
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Speaker 2: o'clock and as Piney mentioned Elliot Smith, the voice of

1985
01:40:38,773 --> 01:40:41,053
Speaker 2: Rugby on Newstalks, he'd be joined by Frank Bunce for

1986
01:40:41,133 --> 01:40:43,973
Speaker 2: that call the All Blacks taking on Fiji in San

1987
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Speaker 2: Diego from two thirty our time this afternoon twenty five

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Speaker 2: to twelve.

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Speaker 5: No better wait to.

1990
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Speaker 1: Kick off your weekend than with Jack Saturday Mornings with

1991
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Speaker 1: Jack Team and bepureed dot co dot Nz for high

1992
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Speaker 1: quality Supplements used Talks MB Paul.

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Speaker 2: Got three and a half out of ten. I'm glad

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Speaker 2: that I'm not the only one doing halves on Cake's

1995
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Speaker 2: list of plastics that you might not need any house anymore.

1996
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Speaker 2: He reckons that glad rap or cling film like plastic

1997
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Speaker 2: rapp is the hardest one for him. I think that's

1998
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Speaker 2: maybe one of the easy ones to get out in

1999
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Speaker 2: my case anyway, if I just think about it, Because

2000
01:41:17,213 --> 01:41:20,413
Speaker 2: you can use, you know, you can use You can

2001
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Speaker 2: just get a bowl and just cover it with something else,

2002
01:41:22,653 --> 01:41:24,893
Speaker 2: can't you if you're putting in the microwave? Yeah, and

2003
01:41:25,053 --> 01:41:27,693
Speaker 2: you can wrap food and other things if you're putting

2004
01:41:27,693 --> 01:41:30,213
Speaker 2: in a lunch box, can't you? Paul anyway ninety two

2005
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Speaker 2: ninety two, or you can do what Paul didn't send

2006
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Speaker 2: me an email if you prefer twenty two to twelve

2007
01:41:34,733 --> 01:41:36,573
Speaker 2: on news talks, he'd be in time to catch up

2008
01:41:36,853 --> 01:41:40,013
Speaker 2: with Katherine Rain's our book reviewer this morning Tilder, Catherine,

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Speaker 2: Morning Jack. Okay, we've been talking about this new book

2010
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Speaker 2: of yours about the Beckhams. Talk tell us about all

2011
01:41:46,013 --> 01:41:48,653
Speaker 2: the details that the money, the sex, the power of

2012
01:41:48,733 --> 01:41:49,533
Speaker 2: the beckham story.

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Speaker 26: So this the idea of this was to piggyback on

2014
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Speaker 26: the Netflix stock the Beckhams, which of course was produced

2015
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Speaker 26: by themselves. So I don't think any of us were

2016
01:42:00,053 --> 01:42:02,253
Speaker 26: only any illusion that it was a watson or confession

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Speaker 26: from them. But this book has kind of, to be honest,

2018
01:42:05,613 --> 01:42:10,493
Speaker 26: every table story that you have probably ever whole ever read,

2019
01:42:10,773 --> 01:42:13,573
Speaker 26: and it's you know, decades old things really, you know,

2020
01:42:13,733 --> 01:42:17,213
Speaker 26: kiss and tales and gossip about attending parties and of course.

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Speaker 26: You know, it talks a lot about David Bemson fidelity,

2022
01:42:20,133 --> 01:42:23,813
Speaker 26: alleged infatality and detailed accounts of his text messages and

2023
01:42:23,933 --> 01:42:27,213
Speaker 26: travel history with people like Sarah Marbeck and Rebecca Lows

2024
01:42:27,253 --> 01:42:29,933
Speaker 26: and Danie l. Heath and so you know that's kind

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01:42:29,973 --> 01:42:32,533
Speaker 26: of what maybe their viewpoint were, you know, their marriage

2026
01:42:32,573 --> 01:42:34,533
Speaker 26: viewpoint was like in two thousand and four or twenty

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Speaker 26: years ago, and so lots of that. I didn't find

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Speaker 26: anything new in that. And you know they talk about

2029
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Speaker 26: the tom Bao. That author talks about the Beckhams being

2030
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Speaker 26: obsessed with money so they have to remain this global

2031
01:42:45,693 --> 01:42:49,293
Speaker 26: brand and constant public interest and a lot of allegations

2032
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Speaker 26: about tax avoidance and decisions made with reading money in mind,

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Speaker 26: and you know, gaining status, and a lot about Beckham's

2034
01:42:56,653 --> 01:42:59,813
Speaker 26: move to Real Madrid and then departure for America and

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01:42:59,933 --> 01:43:03,173
Speaker 26: they were ready. He calls them mercenary decisions and about

2036
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Speaker 26: financing and disputes, and yeah, the Victoria doesn't escape particularly

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Speaker 26: lightly herself. You know, he talks about her brand and

2038
01:43:11,933 --> 01:43:14,253
Speaker 26: you know, being paid top dollar and people realizing that

2039
01:43:14,333 --> 01:43:18,933
Speaker 26: she has no substance, and it's I guess and probably

2040
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Speaker 26: the most revealing part of the book is when he

2041
01:43:20,813 --> 01:43:24,133
Speaker 26: talks about David Beckham wanting a knighthood and he talks

2042
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Speaker 26: about it being kiboshed by Victoria and nobody. I liked

2043
01:43:27,613 --> 01:43:29,733
Speaker 26: the idea of Lady Victoria because she's got too many

2044
01:43:29,773 --> 01:43:32,453
Speaker 26: houses and too many servants and doesn't tip in restaurants.

2045
01:43:32,493 --> 01:43:36,813
Speaker 26: So and it's just, yeah, it's it's interesting about their

2046
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Speaker 26: media profile, and you know, and you get to the

2047
01:43:39,613 --> 01:43:41,213
Speaker 26: book and you wonder why they're still married.

2048
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Speaker 16: And you know, despite all of what Tom.

2049
01:43:43,333 --> 01:43:46,413
Speaker 26: Bowers, you know, talks about, you know, they do maintain

2050
01:43:46,573 --> 01:43:49,293
Speaker 26: a position in pop culture, and they've built their brand

2051
01:43:49,373 --> 01:43:52,373
Speaker 26: from the bottom up, really and you know, maybe they're

2052
01:43:52,373 --> 01:43:54,853
Speaker 26: all both just a little bit smarter than we're giving them.

2053
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Speaker 2: A Yeah, okay, it sounds interesting. That's The House of

2054
01:43:57,533 --> 01:44:00,613
Speaker 2: Beckham by Tom Bower. You've also read All the Colors

2055
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Speaker 2: of the Dark by Chris Whitaker.

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Speaker 26: To be a bit careful in how I tell the

2057
01:44:04,613 --> 01:44:06,253
Speaker 26: narrative of the story, so I don't give too much

2058
01:44:06,493 --> 01:44:09,493
Speaker 26: it away. But it takes place over twenty five years,

2059
01:44:09,533 --> 01:44:11,973
Speaker 26: from nineteen seventy six to two thousand and one, and

2060
01:44:12,053 --> 01:44:14,653
Speaker 26: it follows the life of two characters Saint and Patch

2061
01:44:14,773 --> 01:44:18,253
Speaker 26: as they navigate their early teenage years to uphood in

2062
01:44:18,333 --> 01:44:21,253
Speaker 26: the different pas that their lives take. And it's set

2063
01:44:21,333 --> 01:44:23,693
Speaker 26: in the Ozarks, in a small town called Monte Clair

2064
01:44:23,773 --> 01:44:27,213
Speaker 26: in Missouri, and it starts right at the end or

2065
01:44:27,293 --> 01:44:29,133
Speaker 26: near the end of the Vietnam War. And at the

2066
01:44:29,213 --> 01:44:32,053
Speaker 26: heart of this is Joseph and his nickname's Patch. And

2067
01:44:32,133 --> 01:44:34,093
Speaker 26: he's a local boy who was born with one eye,

2068
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Speaker 26: hence the nickname. And he has this amazing act of

2069
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Speaker 26: bravery where he salv's wealthy family's daughter Missy from addiction

2070
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Speaker 26: and sets off this chain of events that intertwines him

2071
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Speaker 26: with lots of people around And so you get this

2072
01:44:46,813 --> 01:44:49,973
Speaker 26: blend of a missing person story and a serial killer

2073
01:44:50,613 --> 01:44:54,533
Speaker 26: thriller and a love story. And Patch's relationship with Saint,

2074
01:44:54,813 --> 01:44:58,773
Speaker 26: his absolutely unwavering best friend, is showcases that power of

2075
01:44:58,853 --> 01:45:02,013
Speaker 26: loyalty and persistence throughout. And it's a real dark and

2076
01:45:02,053 --> 01:45:05,853
Speaker 26: gritty look at how trauma shapes lives and hope always

2077
01:45:05,933 --> 01:45:09,893
Speaker 26: endures and friendship changes. And yeah, it's beautifully written, and

2078
01:45:09,973 --> 01:45:12,253
Speaker 26: it's engrossing and completely captivating.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, that sounds very very very good, very good. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's all the Colors of the Dark by Chris Wedeker

2081
01:45:18,493 --> 01:45:21,773
Speaker 2: Thanks Katherine. Catherine's first book, the completely different one was

2082
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Speaker 2: The House of Beckham by Tom Bauer. If you're interested

2083
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Speaker 2: in those books, you'll find the details on our website,

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Speaker 2: News Talks, heedb dot co dot inded Forward, slash Jack

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Speaker 2: and a couple of minutes on News Talks, he'd be

2086
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Speaker 2: new music from the British artist. The British singer songwriter Griff,

2087
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Speaker 2: who is kind of the big deal coming out of

2088
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Speaker 2: the UK at the moment, just released her debut album,

2089
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna have a listen to that.

2090
01:45:44,573 --> 01:45:47,133
Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need in

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Speaker 5: Used talks b.

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Speaker 17: John the bag because the bottom, oh you could have

2095
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Speaker 17: told mend my elbows with.

2096
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Speaker 2: This is anything. It's by Griff. She's a British singer

2097
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Speaker 2: songwriter and it's just released her first album. The album

2098
01:46:31,813 --> 01:46:35,093
Speaker 2: is called Vertigo. Stelle Clifford is our music reviewer. She's

2099
01:46:35,133 --> 01:46:37,453
Speaker 2: been listening to the album Hey Stelle, oh.

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Speaker 18: Morning, I'm loving on Griff. Her name is Sarah Griffiths,

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01:46:41,093 --> 01:46:43,173
Speaker 18: but she decided that didn't sound like a pop singer.

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Speaker 18: It sounded like a forty year old mother with three

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Speaker 18: children in a career. And I was like, that's absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 18: So she just shorted it down to griff This is

2105
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Speaker 18: an artist I've been following for a couple of years.

2106
01:46:55,213 --> 01:46:57,293
Speaker 18: So a friend of mine went to a showcase she

2107
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Speaker 18: has to come to New Zealand a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 18: I think, and she had some of it on Instagram,

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Speaker 18: and you know how you that's how we find people,

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Speaker 18: and we scroll and go down a rabbit hole, and

2111
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Speaker 18: I just really loved kind of her whole esthetic and.

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Speaker 8: Arty sort of vibe. Wiffy Griffy if you want to find.

2113
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Speaker 18: Her Instagram so you can tell she's a little bit

2114
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Speaker 18: humorous in her approach to being a pot star. Back

2115
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Speaker 18: in twenty twenty one, she won the Rising Star Award

2116
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Speaker 18: at the brit Awards, right, and that kind of set

2117
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Speaker 18: her on a trajectory where everything changes, you know, from

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Speaker 18: someone who's she self taught herself how to record and

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01:47:32,773 --> 01:47:36,653
Speaker 18: produce music from some YouTube tutorials on her brother's laptop,

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Speaker 18: and that's kind of c where she started because you

2121
01:47:40,133 --> 01:47:44,533
Speaker 18: can now and I love that that's what she wanted

2122
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Speaker 18: to be, all of the parts of what a performer

2123
01:47:47,333 --> 01:47:50,453
Speaker 18: and a singer songwriter is, and I think that's really awesome.

2124
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Speaker 18: Couple of EPs she's released prior to this full debut album,

2125
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Speaker 18: which means she's really starting to hone her craft. And

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Speaker 18: on top of that, after winning that Rising Star Award,

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Speaker 18: you know, she's opened for some artists like Dua Lipa,

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Speaker 18: Ed Sheeran, Coldplay, and then she's been on the Era's

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Speaker 18: tour with Taylor Swift. Yeah, big pop artists where you

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Speaker 18: can like, if you haven't honed your craft yet, you're

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Speaker 18: going to be learning as you go pretty quickly, right,

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Speaker 18: to be opening is a huge x like that. It's

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Speaker 18: led to some really cool relationships for her. I mean,

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Speaker 18: she's gone from being an eight year old girl on

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Speaker 18: her iPod listening to Tata to opening for her. But

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Speaker 18: then there's a song on this album called Astronaut and

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Speaker 18: Chris Martin of Coldplay is playing the piano on that song.

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Speaker 18: Cool collaborations, right, and I think really good inspiration for

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Speaker 18: her of what she's doing. But still this artist who's

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Speaker 18: like she is who she is, so she's not trying

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Speaker 18: to replicate those people or be anything else, but I

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Speaker 18: think beautifully influenced.

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Speaker 8: By those people. Yeah, Voodigo is the lead.

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Speaker 18: Single obviously from this album of the same name, which

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Speaker 18: I know you're going to play some of really soon.

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Speaker 2: End.

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Speaker 18: She actually said she wrote this in between being really

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Speaker 18: busy on tour, and I think when you listen to it,

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Speaker 18: and if you've ever had bodigo, it's horrible and it's

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Speaker 18: that kind of you know, when you feel really tipped

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Speaker 18: upside down and imbalanced. And she says, from the busyness

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Speaker 18: of what it is to be on tour, I think

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Speaker 18: you could also listen to it and it could.

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Speaker 8: Be about a relationship. And I like that about her writing.

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Speaker 18: There's a real vulnerability and emotional connection to what she's singing,

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01:49:29,253 --> 01:49:31,213
Speaker 18: and those songs kind of work well to speak of

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Speaker 18: where she's at, but they speak to something else as well,

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Speaker 18: so you know, it's kind of all encompassing for your audience.

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Speaker 8: There's these little in the production.

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Speaker 18: There's there's these little tings and in sudden breaths like

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Speaker 18: that kind of almost.

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Speaker 2: Panic like, yeah, like you're having a panic attack or something.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, not like when you're standing and they're

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Speaker 18: supposed jump off the sky tower. Or whatever, and everyone's

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Speaker 18: like that's your brain's like no, that's can't be real.

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Speaker 18: So it kind of has that kind of like sort

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Speaker 18: of urgency and panic about it. And I think it's

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Speaker 18: really clever mixing the production and she's really good at

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Speaker 18: that stuff, Like you get those beautiful catchy hooks and

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Speaker 18: melodies and harmony, but then there's little special things on

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Speaker 18: the production and it kind of is.

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Speaker 8: Scattered right throughout the album, but you get to hear

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Speaker 8: very cinematic at times.

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Speaker 18: She's someone I think one of her first music videos

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Speaker 18: very cinematic approach to her and danced and she sewed

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Speaker 18: all the costumes.

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Speaker 8: Like what can't she do?

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Speaker 2: That's impressive.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, definitely listen to the final track where Did You Go?

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Speaker 18: I mean listen to all of it, but that one

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Speaker 18: there's no instruments.

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Speaker 8: It's all her voice.

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Speaker 12: Oh.

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Speaker 18: What I love about this is someone on her debut

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Speaker 18: album is showing us what she can do with her vocals,

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Speaker 18: and that's she's got a huge range.

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01:50:42,173 --> 01:50:44,093
Speaker 8: Yeah, she can go through quite a few octaves.

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Speaker 18: But also just the cleverness because it took me actually

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Speaker 18: a couple of listens to go, hang on, I don't

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Speaker 18: think these are actual instruments, So taking some of the

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Speaker 18: recordings and she's distorted them to sound kind of like

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Speaker 18: a heavy guitar or bass kind of sound.

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Speaker 2: Right. I thought you just meant like a total archipella track,

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Speaker 2: but she's she's made with her voice. Yeah, yeah, it.

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Speaker 18: Still sounds Yeah, that wasn't really clear that yes, yeah,

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Speaker 18: So just these layers of production where you know that's yeah,

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Speaker 18: there's always just it's very very clever. And again I

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Speaker 18: didn't actually pick it straight away. Sort of get to

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Speaker 18: the end of an album and you're kind of listening

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Speaker 18: to the whole ethos of something, but actually you dive

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Speaker 18: in a bit deeper. Yeah, And it's really clever, and

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Speaker 18: it's kind of nice I think sometimes to know those

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01:51:26,413 --> 01:51:30,493
Speaker 18: things before you go go into it bigger, more grandiose

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01:51:30,573 --> 01:51:33,613
Speaker 18: production than probably she's done on her EPs. Again, that

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01:51:33,733 --> 01:51:37,413
Speaker 18: says someone who's perfecting her craft and figuring out who

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01:51:37,453 --> 01:51:39,533
Speaker 18: she is as an artist, and I.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I like that.

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01:51:41,373 --> 01:51:43,773
Speaker 18: You can go bigger in production and try some really

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Speaker 18: big soundscapes, but you can still be so vulnerable and

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Speaker 18: what you're singing about. Some of her lyrics are very

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01:51:50,933 --> 01:51:54,773
Speaker 18: clever in what she's saying. I mean astronauts about someone

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01:51:54,853 --> 01:51:57,613
Speaker 18: saying they want some space, right, Yeah, we'll go on

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01:51:57,733 --> 01:51:59,493
Speaker 18: then go to space, you know, and you're.

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Speaker 8: Like, oh, that's kind of you're still a bit of

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01:52:01,613 --> 01:52:02,213
Speaker 8: tongue in sheet.

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01:52:02,293 --> 01:52:04,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're putting down there. Yeah.

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Speaker 18: And I think in a pop new escape, it's nice

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01:52:07,373 --> 01:52:09,933
Speaker 18: to have those lyrics who have tried to be a

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01:52:09,973 --> 01:52:12,773
Speaker 18: bit clever and a bit fun. Yeah, because at the

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Speaker 18: end of the day, that's what the music's about, right,

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Speaker 18: So yeah, thank you artists.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely worth. Get on with you, Griffy and check

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Speaker 8: out some.

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Speaker 2: Of it's playing. She's playing in New Zealand, right, she's

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01:52:21,853 --> 01:52:23,973
Speaker 2: touring here. She's come to the Power Station next month.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, very good, live, real fun, nice work.

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Speaker 2: Oh very good. Okay, would you give it?

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01:52:29,253 --> 01:52:30,893
Speaker 8: It's an eight out of ten, great eight.

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Speaker 2: Out of ten for Verdico by griff Okay, we'll pick

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01:52:33,053 --> 01:52:34,653
Speaker 2: out Vertigo so we can never listen to that song

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01:52:34,693 --> 01:52:34,973
Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 16: Thanks nice.

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Speaker 2: You take care of Stelle. We will catching him very soon.

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Speaker 2: The style Clifford there with Us said is nine to

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Speaker 2: We're gonna leave you with Griff. Her debut album is

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Speaker 2: called Verdigo and this is a song by the same name.

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Speaker 12: Well well, well, well a lord, start Phil, I tell

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Speaker 12: curs you talk hi, B you could to me. Oh

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01:54:06,693 --> 01:54:13,373
Speaker 12: it's such a shame. And I wasn't asking for a lifetime.

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01:54:14,013 --> 01:54:16,733
Speaker 12: I was just asking you to take her haad, just

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Speaker 12: for a minute or night?

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01:54:18,693 --> 01:54:20,133
Speaker 2: Was it too much to ask?

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Speaker 12: You're scared of the lines. That's vertical. You wanted life,

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01:54:24,253 --> 01:54:28,413
Speaker 12: Go see Sal. You ran away. That's cutching gold. You're

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Speaker 12: scared of love. Well all you felt alive. That's klinical.

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01:54:33,653 --> 01:54:38,533
Speaker 12: You felt secure. That's called home. Couldn't take me, that's lexical.

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Speaker 12: You're scared of love for all? Well, aren't we all.

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Speaker 5: Thought that I could be alone.

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Speaker 17: Change you, not that I could be alone in the boom.

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Speaker 5: I'm just affecting rocom of things.

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Speaker 12: Before I thought, lady, I could fix you too. I

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01:55:03,413 --> 01:55:07,013
Speaker 12: wasn't asking for a life time. I was asking you

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Speaker 12: to take my head. Just a million nine wasn't too much.

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Speaker 14: Too ice.

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Speaker 12: You're scared of hens. That's where to go. You wanted

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Speaker 12: Life's go see Sal. You ran away. That's rue. You're

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Speaker 12: scared a lot well will you felt alive?

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Speaker 8: That's chinical.

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Speaker 12: You felt secure.

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Speaker 19: That's called home.

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Speaker 12: Couldn't take that's Mexico.

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Speaker 8: You're scared a.

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Speaker 5: Lot fell We all said, look, and then we do.

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Speaker 12: You'll bet your pascone and you think you got foll

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Speaker 12: have to your fl.

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Speaker 5: That's happen you you start hides.

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Speaker 2: That's where to go.

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Speaker 12: You want to life, go see your show.

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01:55:51,093 --> 01:55:53,253
Speaker 11: You a way, that's touch you go.

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Speaker 12: You're scared a lot of found but all were happy.

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Speaker 5: All you.

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Speaker 12: Scared hurts that's vertical. Your line lights go seasho you anyway,

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01:56:13,773 --> 01:56:18,653
Speaker 12: that's touchingle you scare all well? Line Real Well, Line Real.

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