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Speaker 1: Darcy water Grave, hosts of Sports Talk with Me.

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Speaker 2: Now, Hey, Darcy, just saying that tonight in the program

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Speaker 2: we've got Willow Rourke. I know we're not talking about

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Speaker 2: cricket right now, but this guy has been a runaway

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Speaker 2: success since he started playing Test cricket. So yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: have a chat to him about make some tick.

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Speaker 1: Please ask him if he's going to do T twenty right,

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Speaker 1: because we don't want him to go anywhere near the

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Speaker 1: tick otherwise we're going to lose him.

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Speaker 2: He's really tall and long and he'll break. Yeah, stick

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Speaker 2: around the Yeah, absolutely, I'm going to tell him what

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 1: Hey, So is Liam Napier right? Is Body Barrett going

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Speaker 1: to be replacing Demo?

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Speaker 2: Put it this way, Liam Napier is really incorrect, rarely

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Speaker 2: not really, rarely incorrect. He would know you'd think that

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Speaker 2: with eight shots at first five eight, and he really

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Speaker 2: hasn't made any huge steps forward. Damien McKenzie that maybe

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Speaker 2: Patients is wearing a little thin with Scott robertson. Look,

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Speaker 2: I've given you plenty of rope and you've not done

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Speaker 2: what I want with it. Yeah, you've tripped yourself up

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Speaker 2: on it. So we're going to go somewhere else. Interestingly,

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Speaker 2: the Herald have got a pole. This is very scientific,

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Speaker 2: this is completely.

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Speaker 1: I looked at this carry poles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a forty percent of people want Bowden Barrett starting

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Speaker 2: at another teen, twenty three percent want Richie Muwanga, who's

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Speaker 2: not available starting at teen. Then it's Harry Harry Plummer

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Speaker 2: at eighteen percent, and then Damion began to seventeen percent. Yeh, Look,

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Speaker 2: they've given him chances. And I'll keep saying this and

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Speaker 2: this is no slight on him as a human, but

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Speaker 2: I don't feel safe with him in the teen Jozy,

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Speaker 2: I don't when he lines up, like what are you

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Speaker 2: again to do? Now? And like I'm only a pander

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Speaker 2: on the sideline imagining the team a game. What's he

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Speaker 2: going to do? Listen, I'm going to try as a

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Speaker 2: crazy backhand mad person. I know, I mean, I play it.

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Speaker 2: He kicked, He converted so well over the week.

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Speaker 1: My favorite was when he passes at No.

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Speaker 2: One.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's quite interesting.

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Speaker 2: Into the stands.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what's going to happen, obviously is we're going

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Speaker 1: to so Damien's out body takes that spot, and then

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Speaker 1: Will Jordan takes body spot right in the fullback, you'd think. So,

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Speaker 1: how much of this is about trying to get Will

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Speaker 1: Jordan into fullback where he's playing well, which means you

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Speaker 1: have to put body somewhere else into maybe number ten.

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Speaker 1: How much of this is actually about the wanting body

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Speaker 1: and Jordan on the field rather than wanting Damien off

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Speaker 1: the field? Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's more of a It's not a

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Speaker 2: Jordan move. I think we've seen from Jordan on the wing.

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Speaker 2: He's played most of his tests on the wing. Fact well, look,

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Speaker 2: he played very well at fullback last week and there's

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Speaker 2: no doubt about that. That's what his possession. He likes

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Speaker 2: to play. He hasn't been electric at fullback when he

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Speaker 2: has played with South Africans. He just didn't have the

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Speaker 2: room to do anything, but he wasn't settled in that role.

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Speaker 2: I think that Damien McKenzie, his best rugby has been

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Speaker 2: off the bench, and I think when you've got tiring bodies,

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Speaker 2: confused legs and the light, you bring this guy on

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Speaker 2: and he can just cut Mary Capers. So I think

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Speaker 2: it's a pragmatic move. Should it happen from Scott robertson

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Speaker 2: the other thing is what happens with Jordy. No Jordy

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Speaker 2: in the midfield because he's all broken up with his knee.

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Speaker 2: What will be work it? It was, so what happens there

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Speaker 2: we don't know. But the team comes out to my

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Speaker 2: reget an idea and of course you know what he

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Speaker 2: discussed is too they haven't won. The essence twenty eighteen

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Speaker 2: shouldn't laugh at hey, wow.

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Speaker 1: Really quickly? What the hell's gone wrong for the White

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Speaker 1: fans is ten in a now?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's gone wrong? What carries on going wrong?

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Speaker 2: Because it's been such a long it's actually eleven internationals

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Speaker 2: on the bounce now one of those was a one

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Speaker 2: day International. There was some highlights, but again I do

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Speaker 2: wonder about the say at the top couple of inches

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Speaker 2: about their faith and their own ability to get the

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Speaker 2: job done, and I think that might be wavering. I

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Speaker 2: think that with the ball they're going particularly well. There's

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Speaker 2: some real highlights there, just can't score the runs. And

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Speaker 2: I was watching it last night. It was it was

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Speaker 2: looking good. It started well, Plummer looked fantastic. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: this is going somewhere, and then suddenly five Wills all

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Speaker 2: over close but no cigar and close doesn't win you.

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Speaker 1: Title two Darcy, thank you, looking forward to your chat

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Speaker 1: with Willow Rock. That's Darcy Watergrave Horse again seven four three.

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