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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsweakers to get the real story. It's Ryan

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Speaker 1: Bridge on Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Third afternoon, everybody, it is seven after four. Bowl cancer

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Speaker 2: of a lack of resources. We'll tell you where and why.

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Speaker 2: Sir Roger Douglas is on the program, the godfather of

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Speaker 2: the Act Party taking a swipe at his own. That's

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Speaker 2: after six. Barbara Edmonds has done another big booboo today.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you about that and my top five things

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Speaker 3: I am bread Bridge shit to that.

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Speaker 2: Shortly. I had a call this morning from somebody with

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Speaker 2: some intel about Auckland Council and their vote to oppose

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Speaker 2: the Treaty Treaty Principal's Bill. You know that a lot

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Speaker 2: of councils have been doing this. Apparently went down like this.

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Speaker 2: The Policy and Planning Committee was doing the vote on

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Speaker 2: whether to submit on the government's bill. There was a

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Speaker 2: before to say oppose the bill, and this rightly annoyed

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Speaker 2: some counselors who thought, yeah, we could submit on the

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Speaker 2: don't oppose it outright. So it went to a vote,

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Speaker 2: and I'm told in the first round of voting, ten

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Speaker 2: But I was told there were two independent Maori Statutory

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Speaker 2: ten all. And then the chair, who's Richard Hills, he

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Speaker 2: are we wasting rate payers money submitting on something that's

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Speaker 2: never going to happen. Just go and fix a pothole

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Speaker 2: for goodness sakes. Number two, why should unelected people get

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Speaker 2: unaccountable cluster that is all contransport. That's what happens when

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Speaker 2: you've got people running the show who aren't accountable to us,

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Speaker 2: the voters. We the people need insurance, and our insurance

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Speaker 2: is an election, the chance to boot people out if

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Speaker 2: we don't like what they're doing, and in this case,

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Speaker 2: both are absent. Ryan Breck four Liam Lawson has been

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Speaker 2: Before he was picked up by Red Bull, Liam raced

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Speaker 2: Tomlinson founded the Toyota Racing series. He's now with NZ

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Speaker 2: a Barry.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Ryan, Merry Christmas to you.

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas. Great to have you on the show. And

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Speaker 2: what great news going into the silly season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, fantastic news. Obviously it's been a long time coming Ryan,

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Speaker 5: You're probably the worst kept secret really, but yeah, look

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Speaker 2: Why why do you think red Bull pecked him over Sonoda?

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Speaker 2: Because Snoda does have more experience, right.

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Speaker 5: He's matched Yuki, you know on his results. Yeah, Yuki's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the potential buzz, isn't it Because he's basically

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Speaker 2: how good might he be in one two years time? Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Ryan, And I think you know this is the thing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Liam's twenty two and sure next year, you know,

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Speaker 5: For the future, you know, eventually Max will leave, He'll

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure if LIAMB can perform at the high

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Speaker 5: Look, I think LIAMB is world championship material. Red Bull

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Speaker 5: And you know, I do believe that he is the goods.

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Speaker 5: He's a highly talented guy, not only in the car,

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Speaker 2: I know it's not polite to ask, but what would

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Speaker 5: Look, I do have some experience, having been deeply involved

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Speaker 5: well for him. Yeah, but again it's it's really points points, points,

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Speaker 5: And to be honest, it would be great to see that.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think his parents have sacrificed a huge

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Speaker 2: You know, it's and that You're right. They have made

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Speaker 2: they absolutely deserve the whole family. Barry, thank you very

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Speaker 2: much for being with me this afternoon. Barry Thomlinson, who

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Speaker 2: Eighteen after four on News Talk ZB. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: I mate? We've just spoken. We just had a great

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Speaker 2: chat atually about Liam Lawson with Barry Tomlinson and just

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Speaker 2: I suppose a great day. Everyone was kind of suspecting

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think fantastic. I think overwhelmingly positive. You know,

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Speaker 7: Like you say, Ryan, I think we all hope that

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Speaker 7: it would happen. It felt more and more as though

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Speaker 7: the news came through ten o'clock last night New Zealand

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Speaker 7: continue to be for Liam. I mean, what a thrill

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Speaker 7: and finally it's going to come to fruition. I guess

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Speaker 7: the hard work is ahead. Now he goes into a

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Speaker 7: guess the big ingredient he can add is helping them

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Speaker 7: the feeling a lot of resource will be handed the

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Speaker 7: way of Max for Stappan. But for Liam Lawson, what

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Speaker 7: an exciting time, What a really really exciting time for

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Speaker 7: a talented young keiw.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and great to be watching such a talented person

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Speaker 2: in Max for Staffan as well. Auckland f C back

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Speaker 2: at home tomorrow. Do you think they can keep this up?

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Speaker 7: I think they will. Yeah, I think they will. You

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Speaker 7: making a beach at one end of Mount Smart. This

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Speaker 7: is another innovation by Oakland DEFC. Get the feeling in

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, well, let's hope it's not a sandstorm. Jason,

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Speaker 2: Host Jason Pine twenty after four Bryan Bridge, So Canterbury

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Speaker 2: Sir Roger Douglas, the godfather of the act Party, has

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Speaker 2: Five from five newsk said, be Merry Christmas everyone. I

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news dogs. They'd be dry.

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Speaker 2: The Australian oppositionally to Peter Dutton, has challenged Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: Also this afternoon, some squirrels in California have become merciless killers.

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Speaker 2: California ground squirrels are omnivorous, help me omnivorous, omnivorous, they

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

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Speaker 2: Could humans be next? That's a scary thought, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: have you on the show. Hi, right, how are you good?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks for being with us. So the iconic

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Speaker 9: This is the twenty six year old who was accused

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Speaker 9: Well, look, they're saying that this is a premeditated attack

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's truly shocking that number. Fulton County, the Fanny Willis.

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Speaker 9: Now it emerged at Funny Willis, the district attorney was

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Speaker 2: What's happening with all these drones there? Well, pretty much everywhere,

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Speaker 3: Five Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: murder accused, Stuart Edmondson. People around town apparently called him

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Speaker 2: the pig Man because he had about one hundred pigs

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Speaker 2: on his property little piglets as well, and he was

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Speaker 2: raising them, hand wearing them and people would come and

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Speaker 2: take photos, etc. So now that he's been arrested, he's pleagued,

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Speaker 2: not guilty by the way, to these charges, one of

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Speaker 2: murder and one of attempted murder. But a rural area

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Speaker 2: in Coromandel, lives on his own now everyone's going what's

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Speaker 2: happening with these pigs. There's a goose to one hundred

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Speaker 2: of them. Apparently forty or fifty of the pigs have

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Speaker 2: been taken and have been transported to Wellington and are

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Speaker 2: going to be re homed there. But they're still wondering

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Speaker 2: what to do with the rest of the pegs. Apparently

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Speaker 2: there's been no solution found. They're going to the Haywards

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Speaker 2: Hills to a pig charit well, to an animal charity

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Speaker 2: sanctuary there. There's been a give a little page set up.

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Speaker 2: Guess how much they raised thirty five thousand dollars in

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Speaker 2: the space of a week for some pigs. I know,

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Speaker 2: seventeen away from five newstalks. They'd be Barri soopernext.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centrics credit check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 2: News talks said be quarters to five. Barry Soaper here, Hey, Barry,

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Speaker 2: good afternoon. Right, So Barbara Edmonds has this is Labour's

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Speaker 2: finance spokesperson. We've had the high food numbers out and

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Speaker 2: people have been rightly so putting laying a bit of

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Speaker 2: blame at the feet of the former Labor government and

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Speaker 2: out comes. Barbara with a Facebook post what she said.

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Speaker 6: Well, she posted a graph. Goodness only knows where she

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Speaker 6: got it from, but she's taken it down incidentally since

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Speaker 6: it was pointed out to her. But she said that

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Speaker 6: the durn Hipkins government reduced New Zealand's debt levels by

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Speaker 6: about thirty one billion dollars in its second term. That's

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Speaker 6: when Labor, of course was governing on its own. Well,

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Speaker 6: the graph appeared to show that Labor repaid debt faster

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Speaker 6: than any government. That's the graph that she posted since

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Speaker 6: nineteen seventy two. Can you imagine it. So basically, the

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Speaker 6: second term of the Labor government saw essential increasing of

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Speaker 6: debt significantly by about seventy two billion dollars. Now, the

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Speaker 6: Finance Minister, Nikola Willis, she described the incident as either

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Speaker 6: a case of extraordinary physcal ignorance or wilful deception. Either way,

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Speaker 6: she said she didn't think it looked good for Barbara Edmunds,

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Speaker 6: and she's absolutely right on that. But then Edmunds comes

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Speaker 6: back after making the correction and not even admitting she

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Speaker 6: was wrong. But she said that Willis was so desperate

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Speaker 6: to distract her from mismanagement of the economy that she's

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Speaker 6: going after the social media post that has since been corrected.

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Speaker 6: She said, kiwis expect more of the Minister of Finance. Well,

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, they also expect more of the opposition spokesperson

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Speaker 6: on finance. So I mean it was a red faced day,

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Speaker 6: I've got to say for Barbara dam Edmonds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you make a disown, it does own it.

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Speaker 2: And I have to Hey, despite all this doom and

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Speaker 2: gloom the economic climate, the government's pushing ahead with replacing

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Speaker 2: the Air Force's passenger jets Berry.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what, It's not going to be a

487
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Speaker 6: cheap time for them. Visit that they're looking at replacing

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Speaker 6: them by the end of twenty twenty seven, which is

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Speaker 6: around the same time as they're replacing the two cock

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Speaker 6: straight fairies. So this is not going to come cheap

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Speaker 6: because they're looking at two planes at the moment, are

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Speaker 6: Boeing seven three seven Max eight or an Airbus three

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Speaker 6: to one that Chris Luxon would know very well because

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Speaker 6: it's the most common plane at air in New Zealand.

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Speaker 6: But essentially we've been embarrassed internationally by our Air Force jets,

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Speaker 6: haven't we. I mean I've been on them, You've been

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Speaker 6: on them, and they I remember running a book once

498
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Speaker 6: to see when would be the first port of call

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Speaker 6: that we would break down, and well, we're on the

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Speaker 6: way to Darwin, but we had to sidetrack at one

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Speaker 6: point to Brisbane and sent twenty four to forty eight

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Speaker 6: hours there while the plane was fixed. And if you're

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Speaker 6: leading a trade delegation overseas, you've really got to be

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Speaker 6: able to fly the flag. But you've got to ensure

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Speaker 6: that these planes work. So they're going to be costly,

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Speaker 6: no doubt about it. The defense the Defense Ministry says

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Speaker 6: that it's going to tender now in order to secure

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Speaker 6: the placement by the end of twenty twenty seven. They

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Speaker 6: won't come cheap, but you know, you've got to say,

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Speaker 6: and I think everyone would agree, the current seven five

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Speaker 6: sevens are old, unreliable, and they're far too expensive to maintain,

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Speaker 6: and they're an embarrassment. Chris Luxen has found them embarrassing.

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Speaker 6: Remember that trip he did recently to Japan, and that

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Speaker 6: saw a costly rescue effort for the media and the

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Speaker 6: business delegation, who was trended in Papa New guineas Chris

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Speaker 6: Luckson flew on before them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, if you don't even make it to Darwin.

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Speaker 2: You know you're having a bad day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: We had a lot of fun on those planes, Barry,

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Speaker 2: but we don't talk.

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Speaker 6: They were party planes in the old days, not so

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Speaker 6: much so these days, I don't think, right.

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Speaker 2: No, the Maori Party talking about well, this story is

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Speaker 2: quite interesting, so that there's three different versions of it actually,

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Speaker 2: depending on which party you are. But apparently the Labor

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Speaker 2: of the Greens and to Party Mali are working closely

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Speaker 2: to help each other towards government.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and as you say, they're all telling well, at

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Speaker 6: least one of them is telling a bit of a

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Speaker 6: different story. Labor says discussions between the three are quite

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Speaker 6: casual and informal, but the Greens say they're meeting regularly

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Speaker 6: and planning on formalizing that arrangement. The idea came from

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Speaker 6: Debia river Packer. She says they needed to get past

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Speaker 6: themselves and collaborate, they said. She said, they've worked well

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Speaker 6: with the Greens in the past, and they now figure

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Speaker 6: out how to team up with Labor. Well, I'll tell

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Speaker 6: you what. Some of the antics that the Maldi Party

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Speaker 6: have gone up to would be nothing short of embarrassing

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Speaker 6: for the Labor party. But the Maldi Party are determined

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Speaker 6: this will be a one term government and they say

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Speaker 6: they have to do business. Well, I would say that

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Speaker 6: would be a worry. If you think you've got the

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Speaker 6: coalition of chaos at the moment, you're going to have

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Speaker 6: the coalition of calamity if these three get together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Barry, thank you very much for that. Barry So,

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Speaker 2: our senior political correspondent. We will chat to you again

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Speaker 2: later on to review the week in full with politics.

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Speaker 2: It's just gone nine minutes away from five on News

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Speaker 2: Talks b coming up after five and really I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you about a really unusual story in Auckland. If you're

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Speaker 2: into festivals and gigs and maybe you're going to one

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Speaker 2: this summer, to do with under eighteen year olds because

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Speaker 2: if you think about festival, there's a lot of drinking

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Speaker 2: going on. You can ready access to alcohol. Should under

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Speaker 2: eighteen year olds even be allowed at festivals? We'll talk

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Speaker 2: about that after five six away from five year on

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Speaker 2: News Talk SIB. I'm Ryan Bridge, and it's great to

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Speaker 2: have your company if you are out and about enjoying

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Speaker 2: your probably last day at work for most of you,

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Speaker 2: I guess do enjoy yourself have an extra drink. Ruth

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Speaker 2: says Hi, Ryan, hope you're back this time next year,

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Speaker 2: enjoying having you in this time slot. Yes, I can

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Speaker 2: tell you that I will be filling in for Heather

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Speaker 2: while she's off having a baby on maternity leave. So

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Speaker 2: I'll be here next year from January time for about

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Speaker 2: three months or so. So I look forward to being

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Speaker 2: with you then. Right now, I've told you about this

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Speaker 2: story before, but I need to update you. This is

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Speaker 2: in Wellington, you know, the hideous, headeous monstrosity with the

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Speaker 2: big wooden triangle things on at the bridge that goes

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Speaker 2: between the Waterfront and Civic Square. It's got the big

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Speaker 2: wooden triangles and everyone's underneath smoking dope or having a city. Well,

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Speaker 2: they're going to get rid of it. Well, well they

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Speaker 2: were going to get rid of it. In fact, it

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Speaker 2: was the only sensible decision Wellington City Council made this

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Speaker 2: entire year, was to demolish this bridge because the cost

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Speaker 2: of earthquake strengthening was going to be eighty five million dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's not a car. You can't get a car on

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Speaker 2: this bridge, by the way. This is a pedestrian bridge, okay. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: So smart decision. Eighty five million dollars too much, let's

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Speaker 2: demolish it. Cool anyway, And then there's a bunch of

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Speaker 2: people who worry about bridges and I don't know the

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Speaker 2: look of the city, go and take legal action for

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Speaker 2: a judicial review. Now before there's even been a decision,

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Speaker 2: Wellington City Council has now reversed its decision to demolish

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Speaker 2: the bridge and has now got it on hold. So

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Speaker 2: you've got a city let alone. They can't let alone

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Speaker 2: building something new. They can't even demolish something old. That's

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Speaker 2: how useless they are. The funniest part about the whole

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Speaker 2: story is what they wanted to replace this pedestrian bridge with.

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Speaker 2: They were two options. One of the options, and this

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Speaker 2: is not a joke, one of the options to replace

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Speaker 2: this pedestrian bridge was to build a new pedestrian bridge

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Speaker 2: and have a traffic light and a pedestrian crossing underneath.

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Speaker 2: Why would you why do you need both? Why would

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Speaker 2: you need both? Because it's Wellington, that's why. And Wellington

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Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense. So the next time you want

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Speaker 2: to hear about that, read about the city the city

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Speaker 2: to see bridge, just don't read it. In fact, just

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Speaker 2: put the city in the sea at this point and

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Speaker 2: be done with Wellington. Move the capital to Hamilton, somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm finished with you. Are coming up

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Speaker 2: after the News at five o'clock. We're going talked about

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Speaker 2: the festival in Auckland where under eighteen's have just been

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Speaker 2: barred even though they've bought a ticket. Also, we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk to David tammaheaded He's been convicted of the

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Speaker 2: murders of Heidi Parking and two Swedish backpackers and there's

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Speaker 2: just been an updated court decision around his appeal, so

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Speaker 2: we'll bring you up to date and speak to him.

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Speaker 2: After five.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers, by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New

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Speaker 1: Zealand Let's get connected.

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Good evening seven after five News Talks ZVB. We're speaking

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Speaker 2: to convicted murderer David Tamaheady in just a few moments.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Palmerston North Hospital is cutting back on some

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Speaker 2: of its bowel cancer screening procedures, and Health New Zealand

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Speaker 2: is unable to say if this is happening in other

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Speaker 2: regions around New Zealand. At the moment, in Palmerston North

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Speaker 2: there are eight hundred and fifty two patients who are

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Speaker 2: on the waiting list for a surveillance colonoscopy. These are

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Speaker 2: patients with a high risk of developing bowel cancer because

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Speaker 2: of their medical history or a family history. Well, the

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Speaker 2: hospital says pretty much all of those patients probably won't

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Speaker 2: be getting a colonoscopy until May at the earliest. The

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Speaker 2: hospital says it doesn't have the capacity to screen them

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Speaker 2: and it has to focus on people who are either

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Speaker 2: symptomatic or are already on the National bow cancer screening list.

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Speaker 2: The Professor Frank Frazell is medical advisor at Bell Cancer

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. He's with me now, good evening.

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Speaker 11: Good even.

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Speaker 2: Is this How concerned are you to hear this?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 11: I think, well, I am. I'm very concerned. These are

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Speaker 11: patients at increase risk of having bow cancer. There they

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Speaker 11: had a previous pop or they've got a bmily history

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Speaker 11: that's very strong for bow cancer. So they've been identified

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Speaker 11: as not being your average risk, but they have been

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Speaker 11: substantially increase in risk. And now the delays of six

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Speaker 11: months before they can pick up and carry on. So

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Speaker 11: that's six months of those screening, which means they won't

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Speaker 11: clear them are at the start. So many of these

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Speaker 11: people will wait a lot longer in order to get

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Speaker 11: service delivered to them that they have been expecting.

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Speaker 2: Is six months as a minimum, a significant period of

649
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Speaker 2: time when it comes to the development of bowel cancer.

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Speaker 11: Would you like to wait six months to find out

651
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Speaker 11: that you had bow cancer?

652
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Speaker 2: Certainly not no, And I think that's it's.

653
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Speaker 11: Also the most importantly the ability to remove pre malignant lesions,

654
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Speaker 11: pre cancerous lesions, which stops from going on to cancer.

655
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Speaker 11: And so just that delay of six nine months, maybe

656
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Speaker 11: a year for some of these people would increase the

657
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Speaker 11: number of these people with which could have avoid the

658
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Speaker 11: cancer by having prem lesions removed.

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Speaker 2: Will this result in people having cancer that otherwise would

660
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Speaker 2: have been detected? Do you think?

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Speaker 11: Yes? They would have had pre cancerous legions removed, and

662
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Speaker 11: now there will be a delay and they won't get it.

663
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Speaker 11: They won't get removed until too late, until they've got cancer.

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Speaker 11: See the whole that's the whole purpose of screening and

665
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Speaker 11: of the process, and it's a lot of work has

666
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Speaker 11: gone determining that these people are at risk and they've

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Speaker 11: proven both by family history and by having previous part

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Speaker 11: for previous cancers that they're at risk and so their

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Speaker 11: vulnerable group. And my understanding is that the short staffed

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Speaker 11: and Palmston or mid Central Health is the sort of

671
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Speaker 11: old region used to be called and the unable to

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Speaker 11: replace staff that have left, and that's partly due to

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Speaker 11: the infrastructure around appointment to aura Health New Zealand is

674
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Speaker 11: it's also called, and this has been an issue for

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Speaker 11: at least eighteen months two years, trying to get people

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Speaker 11: through the appointment process and a lack of.

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Speaker 2: Appointment and now it's kind of it's come to a

678
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Speaker 2: head and here we are with a six month pause. Professor,

679
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Speaker 2: thank you for filling us in on that. Professor Frank

680
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Speaker 2: Fazeli's balcancer in New Zealand's medical advisor, now Health New

681
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Speaker 2: Zealand has issued a statement and they say, I think

682
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Speaker 2: quite worryingly, we're unable to confirm if other regions have

683
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: also paused surveillance of colonoscopies, as this is a significant

684
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Speaker 2: piece of work involving going out to all districts and

685
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Speaker 2: we're already operating on a reduced roster due to the holidays. Honestly,

686
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Speaker 2: what was the point of House New Zealand coming together

687
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Speaker 2: as one organization in the first place? If it's going

688
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Speaker 2: to take I mean, ask yourself. Eleven after five Brian Bridgway.

689
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Speaker 2: The Supreme Court has decided it will hear David Tamahete's

690
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Speaker 2: appeal against his convictions for murdering two Swedish backpackers in

691
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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine. It comes after the Court of Appeal

692
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Speaker 2: decided just five months ago to uphold Tamahettes's convictions. Last year,

693
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Speaker 2: evidence by businessman Sir Bob Jones was revealed, who said

694
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Speaker 2: the lead investigator in the case had told him he

695
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Speaker 2: had made up the evidence against Tamaheerti. David Tamaheti is

696
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Speaker 2: with me now? Hello? Oh yeah, David? When did you

697
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Speaker 2: hear the Supreme Court's decision? When did you hear about

698
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Speaker 2: this or beert?

699
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Speaker 6: What?

700
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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 12: Nearly three o'clock.

702
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Speaker 2: Are you surprised to hear that the going to hear

703
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Speaker 2: an appeal?

704
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Speaker 12: Yeah, we're expecting a refusal, but I'm sorry that yeah,

705
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Speaker 12: there was. We're expecting for them to say no.

706
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Speaker 2: Why do you think the we well, obviously that's because

707
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Speaker 2: the Court of Appeal upheld the convictions and that was

708
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Speaker 2: only in July. Right. Why do you think they did that?

709
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Speaker 12: Well, I think they have looked at it properly. There

710
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Speaker 12: was all where they've ever done was argued the evidence

711
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Speaker 12: that was presented at the trial. And the Crown keeps

712
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Speaker 12: changing the story and the Court of Appeal judges that

713
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Speaker 12: have been going along with it. But I see that,

714
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Speaker 12: like the Supreme Court has said, they're more interested in

715
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 12: the submissions and these says you are and the principles involved.

716
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Speaker 2: They're opened to, Yeah, they're open to hearing more evidence

717
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Speaker 2: on an appeal.

718
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Speaker 12: Yeah. And the fact that they also mentioned that was

719
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Speaker 12: the importance of the constitutional role of the jury because

720
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Speaker 12: what we always argued said, look say what you like

721
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Speaker 12: at the hearing, you appealing hearing, but put it in

722
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Speaker 12: front of the jury. Let the jury.

723
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Speaker 2: Decide it, and that's what's going to happen.

724
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Speaker 12: Yeah. Because of this, they pulled this provisio.

725
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Speaker 2: Crap on us, the Court of Appeal. This is back

726
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Speaker 2: in July. They upheld your convictions and afterwards the cops

727
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: came out and they said you need to reveal, David,

728
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Speaker 2: where is Heidie parkin AND's body.

729
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Speaker 12: Yeah did you did?

730
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Speaker 2: What did you say to them?

731
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Speaker 12: Well, I haven't. I've just films can nothing to do

732
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Speaker 12: with me, So I don't word about you're talking about

733
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Speaker 12: because oh, I haven't actually spoken to them since it'll

734
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Speaker 12: be open, Oh when I reached a ten year mark

735
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Speaker 12: at my presence ends.

736
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Speaker 2: So you haven't talked to them, right, So you haven't

737
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Speaker 2: spoken to them since the Court of Appeal upheld, since

738
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Speaker 2: the Court of Appeal uphold your convictions, you haven't said

739
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Speaker 2: a word to them.

740
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Speaker 12: No, this was even before then, right, you.

741
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Speaker 2: Know you stand by your innocence, David.

742
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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, my story hasn't changed. It's the Crowns story

743
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Speaker 12: that keeps changing, all.

744
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Speaker 2: Right, David, thank you very much for being with me. David,

745
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Speaker 2: tummy heady. It's just gone fourteen after five, seventeen after

746
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Speaker 2: five news talk said be Sir. Roger Douglas, the godfather

747
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: of the Act Party, the founder of the Act Party,

748
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: is on the show after six. He's taken a bit

749
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Speaker 2: of a swing today at the current lot and he'll

750
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Speaker 2: explain himself. That's coming your way out to six this

751
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Speaker 2: evening right now, YouTuber, mister beast, And if you've got

752
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Speaker 2: kids who go on YouTube, you will probably know who

753
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: mister Beast is. They will definitely know who mister Beast is.

754
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Speaker 2: He has just released an ambitious reality TV show called

755
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Speaker 2: Beast Games.

756
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Speaker 13: I am standing on five million dollars the grand prize

757
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Speaker 13: of the.

758
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Speaker 2: Most insane competition show you've ever seen.

759
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Speaker 14: Competing for it by these one thousand contestants.

760
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Speaker 2: You heard that right. One thousand contestants will compete in

761
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: a squid game style competition to win five million US

762
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: dollars more than you get for winning the block here,

763
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: what do they give you? Ten grand or something. It's

764
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: believed to be the largest amount of prize money on

765
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Speaker 2: offer in the history of reality television. Our entertainment reporter

766
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Speaker 2: Richard Martin is with me. Good evening, Good evening. Now,

767
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Speaker 2: first of all, you hate mister Beast.

768
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Speaker 15: Can't stand the guard.

769
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Speaker 2: What's wrong with him?

770
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Speaker 15: I think that this idea of miss to Beast and

771
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 15: this sort of capitalist dystopia that he's built for himself

772
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Speaker 15: on YouTube is just like a sign of the end times.

773
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Speaker 15: I can't stand it, Like this sort of Jigsaw from

774
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Speaker 15: Saw like games that he puts people in, and it's

775
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 15: very like, you know, old school the rich, almost a billionaire.

776
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 15: Now he's going to be the YouTube's first billionaire. And

777
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 15: how he entertains himself is he locks people on a

778
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 15: supermarket and says, you know, dance, monkey dance, I'll give you,

779
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 15: you know, ten thousand dollars if you do this. And

780
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Speaker 15: on top of that, like, I understand why the biggest

781
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Speaker 15: YouTuber in the world is a guy who has money

782
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Speaker 15: and puts it into his videos and makes more money

783
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Speaker 15: from that. But I just think the guy is so uncharismatic,

784
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 15: and I'm.

785
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Speaker 2: Like, why is it this guy? Well, the Internet's not

786
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: a particularly charismatic place. I had to say it. Well,

787
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: it's not like broadcast radio. To Shay, however he has,

788
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: he's gone out and then he's made hundreds of millions

789
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: of dollars, as he says, on his way to being

790
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: a billionaire. All power to him. And the shame is

791
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: not on him. The shame is on us for watching it,

792
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: is it not?

793
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Speaker 15: Yeah, I've I actually have never watched one of the videos.

794
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 15: The whole way through. I see clips on TikTok and stuff,

795
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 15: and that was sort of how I was introduced to him.

796
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Speaker 2: Can you explain for people who haven't seen him? He

797
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: does little challenges you know all the time. So he'll

798
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: go on a boat when I watched, and they're all

799
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: clipped together really quickly. But he'll show you the difference

800
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Speaker 2: between being on a kayak and how you know, rent

801
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: a kayak for thirty dollars for a day. And he'll

802
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: go up each size of boat until you get to

803
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: know a billionaire's yacht. Yeah, and he'll take you on

804
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: a tour of it. And so it's a bizarre thing

805
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 2: to watch, but you will sit there and fifteen minutes

806
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 2: later you've devoured the whole thing totally.

807
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Speaker 15: And I think that, yeah, there is this idea that

808
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 15: people just are obsessed with the idea of money and

809
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 15: especially like billionaires and stuff. And you know, there's a

810
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 15: bigger divide between between like the working class and the

811
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 15: and the elite more than ever, and so I think

812
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Speaker 15: that there is this desire to see how the other

813
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Speaker 15: half lives essentially. And also, mister Beast kind of does

814
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Speaker 15: the this could happen to you one day, Like a

815
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 15: lot of his stuff is, you know, me walking along

816
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 15: the supermarket aisle and it's like, oh, if you buy

817
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 15: my chocolate bar and if you follow me on tektok

818
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 15: I'll give you ten thousand dollars, right, And so that

819
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 15: I think is where like the sort of lottery stuff

820
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 15: that he does quite a bit, just like lotto, yeah,

821
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Speaker 15: which you know is and when you're appealing to young

822
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Speaker 15: kids as well that are like, well I don't understand

823
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Speaker 15: how odds work.

824
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Speaker 2: Yes, hey, very quickly, there's some news that's got people

825
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: very excited in the entertainment world today about Blue Yes, well,

826
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Speaker 2: what's happening with Bluey?

827
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Speaker 15: What's the complete other side of the argument? Blue fantastic

828
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Speaker 15: role model for children? Yeah, Blue is getting a movie.

829
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Speaker 15: It's gonna be Disney's making it, and twenty twenty seven,

830
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 15: I believe is the current release date. And yeah, full

831
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 15: featurely theatrical movie, not a straight to streaming thing. And

832
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Speaker 15: they also announced as well that you're going to be

833
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Speaker 15: start seeing some Bluey characters at the Disney parks and

834
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Speaker 15: on the Disney cruises that I believe early next year

835
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Speaker 15: are going to be leaving Australia and New Zealand.

836
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Speaker 2: So Disney Blue is going big, going big time. Yeah, yeah,

837
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Speaker 2: all right, Well that's interesting. To be honest, I've never

838
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: seen Blue I have no don't I have no idea

839
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about.

840
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Speaker 15: Well, see the thing about Blue is that, yeah, like

841
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 15: it is this incredible role model, but it's also like

842
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 15: it teaches like parents' lessons as well. It's like, you know,

843
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 15: if you realize you've told off your kid for the

844
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 15: wrong thing. It like there's episodes where it's like, yeah,

845
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 15: you should apologize to your kid for that. It's an

846
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 15: awkward thing to do to like admit you're wrong to

847
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Speaker 15: a child and to back down on a punishment or whatever,

848
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Speaker 15: but that's an important thing of like fostering the relationship

849
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Speaker 15: with a kid.

850
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, God Bloe presum Blue is it's quite a

851
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 2: profound flick. Then coming out and been put on by Disney.

852
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for coming in. Great to have

853
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Speaker 2: you on the show for our first time too. Richard

854
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Speaker 2: Entertainment Report had just gone twenty two minutes after five

855
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Speaker 2: when we come back the five things not to do

856
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Speaker 2: at the beach this summer on your smart.

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Speaker 1: Speaker, on the iHeart app and in your car on

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Speaker 1: your drive home, it's Ryan Bridge on Heather Dupless, Alan

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Speaker 1: Dry with One New Zealand Let's get connected and news

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Speaker 1: Talk zed Bow.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five and after five you're on News Talk said,

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Speaker 2: be great to have your company coming out after six ros.

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Speaker 2: Sir Roger Douglas on the State of the Act Party.

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Speaker 2: Also Barry Soaper raps the Political Week and we're live

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Speaker 2: to Hong Kong. Gavin Gray is a UK correspondent. That

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Speaker 2: all ahead right now. It is my last day of

867
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: work for the year, and I must say I very

868
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: much enjoyed spending the last couple of weeks with you.

869
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 2: In the afternoon, however, I am going to be off

870
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: to the beach and every year because I am essentially

871
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: quite an angry, grumpy person deep down. I go to

872
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: the beach and I get mad, and I get angry

873
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: at people doing dumb stuff. The problem with the beach,

874
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: you see, is that it's public and I can't yet

875
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 2: afford my own private one until then. Here's my top

876
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: five things not to do at the beach this summer.

877
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: Number one, rubbish bins. They get full quickly, so everybody

878
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: just piles their shit sky high like a bio hazard

879
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: version of Jinger. Don't do that. It's unsightly. If the

880
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 2: bins are full, please dispose of your rubbish in the ocean.

881
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: It's far less visible to your fellow beach goers. Just

882
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. Seriously, though, Just put it in the

883
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 2: boot of your car and take it home for goodness sakes.

884
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: Number two music just don't you may like Coldplay, thank you,

885
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: and it's just don't you may like Coldplay or Cardi b.

886
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 2: Others prefer the soothing sound of the actual ocean. It's

887
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: quite hard to hear that with Chris Martin wailing out

888
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 2: of your stupid dewey boom. The beach and the bush,

889
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: for that matter. For those who prefer the bush not

890
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: just visual spectacles, they are oral experiences too. Try closing

891
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: your eyes in the sun, listening to the sound of

892
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: the waves, the birds, the magic, but not your music.

893
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: Number three togs. There's always some wowser in the Herald

894
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: over summer winging about a woman's bikini being too revealing.

895
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm talking about? Too much skin

896
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: for my liking? It's just not right, honestly, look away.

897
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: People can wear whatever they like. In my mind, just

898
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 2: ensure that your nips and your bits are covered. Other

899
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: than that dental floss bikinis are aokay with me. And

900
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 2: if you're one of those people who complain, are you

901
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: in sense at the woman's body, or is it the

902
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 2: fact that your husband's drawling behind his dirty dog sunglasses

903
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: Number four? Swimming in jeans and T shirts? Do you

904
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: have a death wish? Eighty six percent of drownings happen

905
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: during summer, and you're a lot heavier in denim. This

906
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: is a fact. And you see people you set out

907
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: at Pihr Beach, people being rescued wearing track pants. Honestly,

908
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: take a leaf out of the dental floss book. Number five. Finally,

909
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: I love a good sun shoh shade tent, one of

910
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: those pop up tents. Some people have a full on

911
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: almost camping setup and I'm all for this. This is

912
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: fine with me. But you cannot, and I have seen

913
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: this happen, set it up and leave it for days

914
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: on end at a busy beach overnight. You cannot bags

915
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: bits of the beach. It belongs to nobody and everybody,

916
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: and that is entitled and shameful behavior. So don't do it.

917
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: Wishing you all a warm, quiet, easy breezy beach experience

918
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: this summer.

919
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge, but that was when a rule.

920
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: The world Ryan Bridge.

921
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: Cutting through the noise to get the facts, it's Ryan

922
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: Bridge on here the duper see Ellen drive with one

923
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: New Zealand.

924
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 3: Let's get connected and you talk instead be Chris Grins.

925
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait the end those fast an you run.

926
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: It's twenty four away from six News Talks the b

927
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: It's all kicking off online and apparently there's heartbreak among

928
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 2: some sixteen and seventeen year olds. The Laneway Festival in Auckland.

929
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Speaker 2: It's based off of a Melbourne concept, Laneways. There's thousands

930
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: of people go to it every year. It's held in

931
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: I think it's in January, and they've just announced today

932
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: that they are having to revoke and issue refunds for

933
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 2: tickets that were given to six sold to sixteen and

934
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: seventeen year olds because of licensing issues. Now this is

935
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: a weird story because last year they were allowed sixteen

936
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: and seventeen year olds there and obviously you can have

937
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: a wristband to differentiate the two and have eighteen year

938
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 2: olds going to the bar to buy a drink without

939
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 2: selling alcohol to sixteen and seventeen year olds anyway. In

940
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: their statement, Laneways has explained it is apparent that New

941
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: Zealand's licensing landscape has a volved in recent months, with

942
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: a heightened level of scrutiny and responsibility placed on event

943
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: organizers to address alcohol related arms. So basically, if you've

944
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: bought a ticket for your sixteen or seventeen year old

945
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: to go to Lamewys, you're gonna have to get a

946
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 2: refund and they won't be able to go, So they'll

947
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: be a bit disappointed with that, which I find weird

948
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: because if you're sixteen, you can go to a bar

949
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: and not be served alcohol, but still go to a bar.

950
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: So what's the difference. If you're twelve, you can go

951
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: and have lunch at a restaurant that serves alcohol with

952
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 2: your galpals or whatever, and there's not going to be

953
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: a problem. So what is the difference with a festival

954
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: that changes things? I don't know. Twenty three away from six.

955
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand southebyst international realty,

956
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: local and global exposure like no other.

957
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 16: First car at twelve, so I was still racing a

958
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 16: go kart and obviously about five years or four years

959
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 16: away from me, I'll actually get my license and driven

960
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 16: the road, but I'm driving it as a race car

961
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 16: and track. That's where I think it starts.

962
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 6: These sports is a sports just getting more and more popular,

963
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 6: and it is very accessible, as.

964
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 11: You say, and very inclusive.

965
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Christmas in New Zealand is hugely appealing to me.

966
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 3: Frankly, I've spent.

967
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 17: Quite a few Christmas Is off shore, so it's great

968
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 17: to be back.

969
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: Busy wee week of sports. So the sports huddleways in.

970
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 2: Clay Wilson's with US Newstalk ZBI sports news director. Hey

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00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 2: Clay Ay right, welcome to the show. And Jim Cases

972
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: with US sports journalists. Hey Jim, good to talk to you.

973
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 4: Oh great to talk to you, mate.

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00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: I hope you will very well and hoping that you're

975
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: well too. And let's start with Liam Lawson. What an

976
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: awesome end to what has been a protracted suspicion of

977
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: a story but now a confirmed one.

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00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 17: Jim, that's pretty fantastic, isn't it. I think a lot

979
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 17: of news Yealaders won't really understand or appreciate perhaps the gravitas.

980
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 4: Of what's happened.

981
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 17: But Formula one it's just massive, isn't It's the elite

982
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 17: of motorsport and to have a New Zealander driving and

983
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 17: that is quite incredible really, you know where it sits

984
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 17: in the pecking order of all those sorts of things

985
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 17: which we all always like to do. I don't really know,

986
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 17: but you just have to take your head off to him.

987
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 17: It's a it's an example of perseverance and talent and opportunity,

988
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 17: and good on him, you know.

989
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 4: I hope, I hope he really succeeds.

990
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 17: It's it's great and we get sort of that reflected

991
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 17: glory from it.

992
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 4: Ryan, don't we were?

993
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 17: It's so cool seeing a Kiwi succeed on such an

994
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 17: international stage. And I think it's fantastic. It's a it's

995
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 17: a it's a wonderful, wonderful story.

996
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: It is, and what's cool about it. Clay is talking

997
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: to a couple of the sort of industry guys about

998
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: it today that the reason he was packed over the

999
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: Japanese driver because the Japanese driver has more experience than him,

1000
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: but he's got way more potential. He's basically driving as

1001
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: fast as this other guy who's been on the track

1002
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: for years, so they're they're buying his potential.

1003
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 18: Yeah, and I think that's what's by a lot of

1004
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 18: people that have been kind of promoting Yuki Snowder, and

1005
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 18: he had more experience and he beat Liam in a

1006
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 18: lot of their matchups in the last six races that

1007
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 18: Liam raced in is that Liam has eleven Grand Prix

1008
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 18: experience to his name. Yuki has at that point almost

1009
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 18: four seasons, and Liam was matching him, if not beating

1010
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 18: him on in a lot of metrics. So you know,

1011
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 18: in terms of where the ceiling is, that's what Red

1012
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 18: Bull are clearly looking at is He's a twenty two

1013
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 18: year old kid who's come and he hasn't been afraid

1014
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 18: to mix it with some of the big names, some

1015
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 18: of the veterans in the sport and a car that's

1016
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 18: not a superior, and now they're putting him in and

1017
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 18: that's the big thing about this. They're putting him in

1018
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 18: a car that's capable of winning Grand Prix, winning a

1019
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 18: World Championship, alongside Maxistep and the most you know, the

1020
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 18: best driver of this generation. It's a huge, huge moment

1021
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 18: for a kid from Pukakoe to make it from our

1022
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 18: little country and get across and be in that seat.

1023
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: Red Bull finishes the year third place, seventy seven behind

1024
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: points behind McLaren and largely that's because of Sujia there

1025
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 2: is right, not so great and the seat it's a brutal.

1026
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 18: But this is Formula One. It's brutal, and it's right place,

1027
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 18: right time. And you know, last year Liam got a

1028
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 18: shot as an injury replacement, and but he didn't get

1029
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 18: a seat for the start of the season that's just finished.

1030
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 18: So you've got to be in the right place at

1031
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 18: the right time performing and Liam has and now it's

1032
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 18: just about going through that door and making the most

1033
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 18: of it, and you know, and securing a long term

1034
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 18: future in the sport.

1035
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 2: Jim. The sports people have been quite upset. We had

1036
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: them on the show this week, quite upset, quite exercise

1037
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: because they're missing out on sport New Zealand high performance

1038
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: funding this week. What do you reckon?

1039
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 17: Oh, Ryan, Like, I don't know, maybe I'm showing my generation.

1040
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 4: I just I struggle with it.

1041
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 17: You know, is is chess? Is scrabble? Are they sports?

1042
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 4: Is sport a sport?

1043
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 17: What what constitutes a sport? Should it be for aical activity?

1044
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 17: You know, if you're sitting on a horse or sitting

1045
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 17: in a car?

1046
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 6: Is that it?

1047
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1048
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 17: I don't think that esports should be getting funded in the.

1049
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 4: Way that the Bush.

1050
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 2: I know it sounds your traditional ones saying it.

1051
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 4: I just I just don't.

1052
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 17: I'm just not sure that the sports deserve to be

1053
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 17: considered in the same funding bracket as kayaking, you know, rowing, cycling,

1054
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 17: trifle on those sorts of things. I'm not saying they

1055
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 17: don't deserve funding. Maybe they do, but I wouldn't put

1056
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 17: them in the same bracket as some of those other

1057
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 17: sports when it comes to funding.

1058
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 4: So I don't think.

1059
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 17: I don't think that they are unlucky to have missed

1060
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 17: out in this In this instance, maybe there's another category

1061
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 17: that New Zealand government wants to fund them for. But

1062
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 17: I don't think that sitting in front of a computer

1063
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 17: is a sport.

1064
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting one is that because you look at

1065
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: actual sports that did miss out in this round and

1066
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: you think, well, I mean, surely you go for them

1067
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: before you go through it.

1068
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1069
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 18: We've had this discussion about this topic this week, and

1070
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 18: I think the thing is you can you don't want

1071
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 18: to downplay what these people are doing. They're incredibly skillful

1072
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 18: at what they what they do. They're very passionate about it.

1073
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 18: No one can deny that. But you can do any

1074
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 18: number of things and be that kind of way. But

1075
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 18: to me, just because you have sport in the name

1076
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 18: also doesn't qualify. And this is that opinion thing, right,

1077
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 18: Like Jim said, like what is sport? Everyone has a

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Speaker 18: different definition. Really in the way I look at it,

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Speaker 18: I tend to side with Jim. To me, it's not sport.

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00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 18: It's more of a game. It's a hobby. But you

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Speaker 18: can still be great at it, and you know, and

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Speaker 18: if you can get funding somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: And plus it's the cost involved. I mean, to swim

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Speaker 2: from a you know, if you're doing e sports, swimming

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Speaker 2: from the couch, it's very different to having to build

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Speaker 2: a pool, you know what I mean? These things is

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Speaker 2: quite different. Anyway, the Breakers are playing on Christmas Day, Jim,

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Speaker 2: will you be watching? And how do you feel more

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Speaker 2: generally about sport on Christmas Day?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, that's a really interesting topic, is And I probably

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Speaker 17: won't look not even probably I won't be watching the

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Speaker 17: Breakers on Christmas.

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Speaker 4: Christmas Day.

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Speaker 17: But that's not to say that I'm opposed to sport

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Speaker 17: on Christmas Day, because you know, the perfect day to

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Speaker 17: watch sport is your day of leisure, isn't it so?

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Speaker 17: And we all get excited about the Boxing Day Cricket

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Speaker 17: Test and those.

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Speaker 4: Sorts of things.

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Speaker 17: So having some sport to watch on Christmas on Christmas

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Speaker 17: Day from a consumer, from a from a spectator customer

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Speaker 17: perspective is fantastic. From an athletic perspective is probably a

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Speaker 17: pain in the backside.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not morally.

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Speaker 17: Opposed to watching sport on Christmas Day at all, you know,

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00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 17: sports entertainment. It's no different really to watching a movie.

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Speaker 17: But I'm not going to be watching the Breakers.

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Speaker 18: That's probably partly to do with how the Breakers have

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Speaker 18: been as well. But I think I think the thing is,

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Speaker 18: you know, I think this has been a big part

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Speaker 18: of the American sports landscape for a while now. The

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Speaker 18: NBA basketball is sort of pioneered in this. In this department,

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Speaker 18: I sort of think about for me and my family,

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00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 18: Christmas is Christmas Morning, and then the day kind of,

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00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 18: you know, evolves from there, and if there's a game

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00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 18: on later at that day, then then I would watch it,

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00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 18: I think, you know, also in terms of the players

1118
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 18: and if they should be playing on Christmas Day, lots

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00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 18: of people work on Christmas Day, right, I don't know,

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Speaker 18: And I was actually wondering about this, how it works

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Speaker 18: with remuneration for the players or bonuses or you know,

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Speaker 18: extra time or what is it just part of Is

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Speaker 18: it just part of their contract?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 18: You would hope that because especially the break is they're

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Speaker 18: going to be in Tasmania, they're going to be in Hobart,

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Speaker 18: they have to be away for Christmas. So how does

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Speaker 18: that all work? I'm not really sure, but I'm not

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Speaker 18: generally opposed to it, and I think probably a lot

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00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 18: of people at the end of a Christmas Day are

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Speaker 18: quite happy to flick on the telly and watch something

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Speaker 18: like that.

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Speaker 17: And Ryan, let's not let's not dodge the fact that

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Speaker 17: for a lot of people, and increasing majority of people,

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Speaker 17: there's no religious attachment to Christmas date exactly. It's a

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Speaker 17: day off in a day where we exchange gifts and

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Speaker 17: for a lot of people you have a big barbecue

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Speaker 17: and get on the booze. So having sport alongside it

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Speaker 17: seems to be a bit of an actual fit. I mean,

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Speaker 17: you know, if you went back to the fifties, sixties, seventies, yeah,

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Speaker 17: it was a very religious occasion in New Zealand, but

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Speaker 17: for a lot of people now the religious side of

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01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 17: it has got no bearing whatsoever, and it's really just

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Speaker 17: a relaxing day.

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Speaker 2: And also if you've got the sport on then you

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Speaker 2: don't have to listen to your family talking. That's Wroun

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Speaker 2: fourteen away from six Newstalks. There'b our Sports Huddle continues

1149
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: with Clay Wilson and Jim Kay's Next.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty

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Speaker 1: Elevate the marketing of your home.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Bridge Play Wilson News Talks. There's Sports News

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Speaker 2: director on the huddle with Jim Kay's sports journalists. Guys,

1154
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: let's wrap up with your look back at twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Jim will start with you. You're sporting highlight and low light

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Speaker 2: for the year.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, it's hard to pick one, Ryan, you know, as

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01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 17: a born and bred Auckland, I loved watching the Blues

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01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 17: win Super Rugby. I loved watching the White Ferns win

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01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 17: their World Cup and the Black Caps beating India in

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01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 17: the series. But if I really had to nail it

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Speaker 17: down and chisel it down to just one person, it

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Speaker 17: would have to be Lisa Carrington, Dame Lisa Carrington.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big lover of the of.

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Speaker 17: The canoe racing, winning three Olympic gold medals. Was simply

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Speaker 17: quite outstanding in Paris or in France, the K one,

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Speaker 17: the K two, the K four, and you know, there

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Speaker 17: was something quite special about watching her perform and then

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Speaker 17: by herself, and then in the K two, and then

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Speaker 17: and then I guess captaining.

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Speaker 4: The K four to their gold medals. So if you

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Speaker 4: really forced me.

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Speaker 17: To pick one, it would be her achievements in France

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Speaker 17: at the Olympics.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was something quite special.

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Speaker 17: And I think she's, you know, would have to be

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Speaker 17: probably the greatest Olympian that New Zealand's produced. People will

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Speaker 17: argue that there's more Blue ribbon events like Peter Snow

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01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 17: with running and that sort of thing, but in terms

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Speaker 17: of share, number of gold medals and the dominance of

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Speaker 17: her sport over a long period of time now it

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Speaker 17: struggled to find a more complete Olympian than Dame Lisa Carrington.

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Speaker 17: I thought what she did in France was simply outstanding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Clay, who would be your well, what would be

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Speaker 2: your highlight?

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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: I racked my brain on this one, and the one

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Speaker 18: I always keep coming back to is the Paris Olympics.

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Speaker 18: But Lydia co and for a number of reasons, you know,

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01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 18: here's a player who was a teenage prodigy, had so

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Speaker 18: much success, fell off, came back, fell off again, but

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Speaker 18: then had just such a brilliant twenty twenty four and

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Speaker 18: went into that Olympics with bronze and silver medal and

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Speaker 18: so much hype around can she win the goal? Can

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Speaker 18: she complete the set? And it's one of those things

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Speaker 18: you almost talk out of existence, and especially in a

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Speaker 18: sport like golf where it's so hard to win, when

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Speaker 18: even when you're one of the top players, for her

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Speaker 18: to do that, and even the final day had so

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Speaker 18: much drama, and the sort of the icing on the

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01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 18: cake of that moment for me was seeing how emotional

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Speaker 18: Lydioco was receiving that gold medal. And not to say

1203
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Speaker 18: she she is not an emotional person or she you know,

1204
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 18: she hasn't felt you know, pride and a lot of

1205
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 18: the success she's had, but you just don't often see

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01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 18: someone like her like that, and she was so she

1207
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 18: was clearly so moved by it being up being able

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Speaker 18: to be up there and we're in New Zealand, fern

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01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 18: and that kind of thing. Lowlight's Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 18: if there was there was heaps, here was probably a

1211
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 18: few bits and PC ones the one that sort of

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Speaker 18: I'll look back on and wish it didn't. Everyone was

1213
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 18: sort of the Warriors falling off, you know, because that's

1214
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Speaker 18: for me these days. Like you know, I've really I've

1215
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 18: always been a Warriors fan, but you know, in terms

1216
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 18: of their success recently you get right in behind them.

1217
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 18: Had such a great twenty twenty three and then this

1218
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 18: year has sort of kind of been disappointing. We've lost

1219
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Speaker 18: a few players, Shawn Johnson getting injured and then retiring

1220
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 18: in that kind of thing. And I guess that you

1221
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 18: look back at the All Blacks start to the year,

1222
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 18: I remember at the time thinking, wow, this is like

1223
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 18: hasn't started well at all for Scott Robinson has it?

1224
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 18: But obviously things improved there. So I think in terms

1225
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 18: of highlights versus lowlights, much more of a positive year

1226
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 18: for Kiwi Sport than a negative one.

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Speaker 2: Jim, we have about thirty seconds for your lowlight if

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Speaker 2: you've got one.

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Speaker 6: Look.

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Speaker 17: I agree with Clay New Zealand All Blecks losing to

1231
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 17: Argentina not a great performance and the Warriors fantastic home

1232
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 17: ground support just not able to match it. So you know,

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Speaker 17: in a year of huge success for New Zealand sport.

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Speaker 17: I think we should celebrate those because the lowlights don't

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01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 17: really matter. Amazing Olympics and an all Blacks team on

1236
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 17: the rise and some great cricket results.

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Speaker 2: So been a good year, right, more ups than downs.

1238
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: The other lowlight The only other lowlight I would mention

1239
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: would be the River sen That was disgusting. I've had

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01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: a lot of it. Seven minutes away from six, Jim

1241
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: Kay's on with Clay Wilson here from News Talk ZEDB.

1242
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: Red or Blue, Trump or Harris? Who will win the

1243
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: battleground states? The latest on the US election is hes

1244
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: a duplicy allan drive with one New Zealand.

1245
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 3: Let's get connected US Talk SEDB.

1246
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: News Talk ZB just gone four minutes away from six.

1247
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 2: Coming up after the news, Sir Roger Douglas. He has

1248
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: had a swing at his old party. In fact, he

1249
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 2: says that the ex party is part of a government

1250
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: that could be sending New Zealand bankrupt, which sounds quite alarming.

1251
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: We'll speak to him and ask him why and exactly

1252
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 2: what for That is coming up after six. Also, we

1253
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 2: wrap the week and politics with Barry Soaper. We're live

1254
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: to Hong Kong with Peter Lewis and to the UK

1255
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 2: with Gavin Gray. It's all the head stay with us

1256
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: as we say Hello Christmas and goodbye working year. Who's

1257
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: happy about that? I mean, don't get me wrong, I

1258
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,439
Speaker 2: do love working. It's nice to have you here, thanks right,

1259
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 2: and I do love working with you guys. Ann However,

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01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: it is also nice to get the hell out of

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01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: an office, isn't it. I hope you're enjoying your evening

1262
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: wherever you are.

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Speaker 20: Any case, you, oh Dolly, have the hollid golly Christmas.

1264
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Speaker 2: Vis you.

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Speaker 20: Old Dolly have a holly jolly Christmas.

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Speaker 1: We're Business meets Insight The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge

1267
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 1: and my Hr on News Talk ZIB.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and merry Christmas everyone, just gone seven after six.

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01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 2: Great to have your company here on News Talks. Be

1270
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 2: At party founder said Roger Douglas has thrown shade at

1271
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 2: his own He's disappointed in the ACT Party's response to

1272
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: the sweets bleak treasury forecast, saying he does ACT doesn't

1273
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: have the right solutions for New Zealand's fiscal challenges. This

1274
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 2: is the party that he founded. Instead his taken a

1275
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 2: liking taking a shining to Shane Jones's speech to Parliament

1276
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: in response to the Hayfu numbers, where he looks to

1277
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 2: industries which said growth as a solution.

1278
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 14: Look no further than the massive group an export income

1279
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 14: coming from the primary sector announced last week fisheries, ah

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Speaker 14: hortan culture, a farming, a forestry increasing.

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Speaker 2: Now we ask David Seymour, the leader of the ACT party,

1282
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Speaker 2: if he wanted to come on to have a chat

1283
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: with Sir Roger Douglas, but he declined a panel discussion.

1284
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 2: So I'm joined by the ACT founder, Sir Roger Douglas.

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01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 2: He's with me this evening. Good evening, good evening, Thank

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01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 2: you for being here. Why are you disappointed with ACT?

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Speaker 21: Well, look, I formed that thirty years ago. And let

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01:07:54,360 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 21: me quote a short extract from our founding document. The

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01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 21: question of money is particularly important at the moment. In

1290
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 21: the immediate future, we are threatened to the largest debt

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Speaker 21: in our history, a debt that hasn't reached the public's

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Speaker 21: consciousness in any serious way. It is a debt that

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Speaker 21: the state owes all of us it's citizens for our

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Speaker 21: retirement pensions and our healthcare in retirement. Essentially, the deal

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Speaker 21: is this, we paying taxes. We pay taxes into the

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Speaker 21: system to fulfill our haalf of the social contract. And

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Speaker 21: between us and them, between us and the government, we

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Speaker 21: pay taxes. And when we are sick, the contract is

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Speaker 21: that the government will see look after it. When we

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Speaker 21: are old, the state will provide for We who pay

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Speaker 21: the taxes have kept our part of the bargain. But

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Speaker 21: when we are old does the state do its part?

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Speaker 21: And they are going about the waiting list and say,

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Speaker 21: when it comes to our retirement we are going to

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Speaker 21: get Are we going to get the care the support

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Speaker 21: that our parents knew in their post war years? And

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Speaker 21: that basically we said, in other words, back thirty years ago,

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Speaker 21: when this document Common Sense for the Change was published,

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Speaker 21: we predicted that unless we took action to start individual

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Speaker 21: savings account, if we stayed with the pay as you go,

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Speaker 21: we were going to go broke. And anyone who did

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Speaker 21: simple numbers three years thirty years ago would have come

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Speaker 21: to the same conclusion. You could have got a smart

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Speaker 21: ten year old, they would. But the government didn't want.

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Speaker 4: To do that.

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Speaker 21: No government, well here I wanted to keep power.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but well as every government does, apart from one

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Speaker 2: that Roger Douglas is in it because you're the only

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Speaker 2: one radical enough to say these things, aren't you? But

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Speaker 2: why pick on act at the moment, you know, why

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Speaker 2: write this?

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Speaker 21: Well, I'm obviously disappointed that the party I founded stopped

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Speaker 21: following those policies.

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Speaker 2: And David Seymour says it's easier from AFAR sitting back

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Speaker 2: looking on harder when you're actually in there in government.

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Speaker 21: Oh well, that's true. But if you think about what

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Speaker 21: we did in nineteen eighty four, we had a cabinet

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Speaker 21: who said we are going to do the right thing

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Speaker 21: by New Zealand. We're going to do the right thing

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Speaker 21: even if we lose the next electure.

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Speaker 2: And you think that that's what we did, You think

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Speaker 2: that's lot doesn't have the bulls, that doesn't have the

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Speaker 2: bulls to do that.

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Speaker 21: And that's what I'm saying. I don't believe they have.

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Speaker 21: And when I listened to that debate and listen to

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Speaker 21: the commentary, you know, I was so disappointed.

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Speaker 2: So how hard would you have to hacken to spending to,

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Speaker 2: you know, to actually make it?

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Speaker 21: Well. I published the answers to this back there thirty

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Speaker 21: years ago. We published a paper ten years ago with

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Speaker 21: Robert McCulloch. We published a paper, detailed paper with all

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Speaker 21: the numbers of what about answers?

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Speaker 2: Now, well, I mean, how much would you need to cut?

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Speaker 2: Twenty five thirty.

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Speaker 21: That's what Treasury do, but I don't believe we have

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Speaker 21: to do that. My answer is this, essentially we make

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Speaker 21: the and this is why I get annoyed with that,

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Speaker 21: because David says these ideas are rubbish anyway, but it'll

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Speaker 21: take a lot of time. I would have attacked the

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Speaker 21: first fifty three thousand, five hundred tax free. Of the saving,

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Speaker 21: nine thousand and six thousand would go into SUMER, so

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Speaker 21: that if you're an eighteen year old, you'd retire with

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Speaker 21: at least a million dollars in the day's terms, about

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Speaker 21: four million dollars in dollars of the day.

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Speaker 2: So basically compulsory compulsory savings and no state super because

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Speaker 2: that was well, you take take that off the books

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Speaker 2: because it's going to cost them.

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Speaker 21: It would, it would take it all off, and you

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Speaker 21: would save about three hundred billion and forty forty years tied.

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Speaker 21: And it does cost You're right, And let me tell

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Speaker 21: you what sacrifices you and everyone else have to pass

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Speaker 21: to make the key, we save a tax break, I

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Speaker 21: get rid of that. That's a thousand people are saving

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Speaker 21: six seven. They don't need that. I'd use the super

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Speaker 21: fun income which is about five thousand million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't, Sir Roger. Sir Roger, I can't go

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Speaker 2: through your whole list. I can't get through your whole

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Speaker 2: list tonight. But even though I know it's a good one,

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Speaker 2: but I just just one final word from you on

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Speaker 2: on David Seymour. You know you've given them a bit

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Speaker 2: of a serve. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: you're still going to vote act, don't you.

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Speaker 21: Well, what's my option? They keep my vote because they're

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Speaker 21: better than the others, doesn't make them perfect.

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Speaker 2: Sir Roger Douglas, thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen after six Analysis the experts bringing you everything you

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Speaker 1: need to know on the US election. It's the Business

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Speaker 2: ZIBB sixteen after sex on News Talk sibb our senior

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Speaker 2: politicals correspondent as Barry Soper. Time to wrap the political

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Speaker 2: week that was with Barry Barry High again, you're joining

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Speaker 2: us from our sunny spot. Now, aren't you.

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Speaker 6: Hello? Ryan? You're with me to tell wonderful I'm actually

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Speaker 6: in Tyrone the Corimandel, And if you ever want to

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Speaker 6: get away from it all, it's a place to come.

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Speaker 6: The sun is shining brightly, the sea is looking pretty choppy,

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Speaker 6: it's a bit windy, but we're promised pretty good weather

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Speaker 6: here on and so here's hoping. Well.

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Speaker 2: Em Sorded let your secret out, but lucky you. And

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Speaker 2: there's a lot to get to want to get away from,

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Speaker 2: including the worst recessiance recession since nineteen ninety one. We've

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Speaker 2: been talking a lot about that this week.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, incredible, isn't it. It's a pretty Barbara Edmunds, like

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Speaker 6: I mentioned earlier, didn't have a good look at these

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Speaker 6: figures and understood exactly what they meant. But you know,

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Speaker 6: when you look at the figures, basically we've gone into

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Speaker 6: a third technical recession in the past couple of years

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Speaker 6: and it's just not simply not good enough. It was engineered,

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Speaker 6: of course by Adrian or the governor of the Reserve Bank.

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Speaker 6: I think he overdid his pitch and took us in

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Speaker 6: far too deep and now is struggling to get out

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Speaker 6: of it. So it's incredible though to think, isn't it. Ryan,

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Speaker 6: And we spoke about this earlier in the week. You

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Speaker 6: have Treasury telling one story on Tuesday saying that they

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Speaker 6: may have to increase the bond program by sixteen percent,

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Speaker 6: which is essentially borrowing. Now reckons that we'll have to

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Speaker 6: borrow one hundred and forty six billion dollars through New

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Speaker 6: Zealand bonds over the next four years. That's twenty billion

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Speaker 6: more than was forecast during the budget in May. Now

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Speaker 6: that it is a pretty dire situation for this country

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Speaker 6: when you consider the last labor government, and that was

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Speaker 6: under mister Scrooge as we used to call them, the

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Speaker 6: late Michael Cullen. He reduced debt right down to I

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Speaker 6: think it was.

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Speaker 2: Not nine percent.

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Speaker 6: I think it was yeah, yeah, of GDP and now

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Speaker 6: we're up over forty percent and going home forty seven.

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Speaker 2: No, it's out of control. Hey, Barry, what about the

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Speaker 2: local care O The big thing this week? Local councils,

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Speaker 2: governments now going to pass legislation or mental legislation, you know,

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Speaker 2: stick to your netting. Is this actually getting through? I

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Speaker 2: note that Wellington City Councils now not demolishing their city

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Speaker 2: to see Bridge, even though it's in desperate need of demolition.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're holding onto these pet projects regardless, aren't they.

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Speaker 6: Well, well, that's right, and you listen to Tory Fanal

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Speaker 6: her Golden Mile prospect that looks as it could go ahead,

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Speaker 6: although there's some certainly on the advisory Group, some dissatisfaction

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Speaker 6: with that, and there are certainly from retailers along that route.

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Speaker 6: But nevertheless, you know, no sooner than this reform of

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Speaker 6: local government was announced by Simeon Brown, the local government Minister.

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Speaker 6: We had the council in Wellington meeting on the Tuesday

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Speaker 6: and debating whether to make a submission to the Treaty

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Speaker 6: Principals legislation. Now just three were against that. So they're

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Speaker 6: going to spend rate payers money or waste ratepayers money

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Speaker 6: by drawing up a submission on the Treaty Principal's Bill,

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Speaker 6: which of course will no longer survive when it gets

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Speaker 6: to a second reading next year.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, lots of councilors are doing that obviously around the country,

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Speaker 2: and one of them rang me the other day Bury

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Speaker 2: and said, can you imagine all of them are going

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Speaker 2: to want to make oral submissions. So how many flights

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Speaker 2: is that for? How many staff? And you know, just outrageous.

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Speaker 6: It's as though they don't listen, isn't it right? They

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Speaker 6: certainly don't listen to the right players.

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Speaker 2: Certainly not and certainly not the government. The finding that

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Speaker 2: what's taking so long the Maori party, census data, the

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Speaker 2: moneyed overm I why are we waiting till next year

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Speaker 2: for results?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, there are so many government agencies involved

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Speaker 6: in inquiring into this that it's a pretty cumbersome process, clearly,

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01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 6: but we will here they tell us now was meant

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Speaker 6: to be out originally and around July, then it was

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Speaker 6: delayed further and now it's going to be next year.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean essentially the Maldi Party and in

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Speaker 6: particular that it's chairman John Tammhery, claims there was no

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Speaker 6: wrong doing, Everything squeaky clean, and they say it'll all

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Speaker 6: come out on the wash. Well, let's hope there's not

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Speaker 6: the dirty linen that were led to believe could come

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Speaker 6: out on that particular wash, because you know, there's been

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Speaker 6: a lot of allegations fared at the Maldi Party and

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Speaker 6: using census information to shore up their own vote. They

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Speaker 6: won Tommockymcolder. Against all odds they beat Penny Henad there

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Speaker 6: so from labor. So yeah, there's a lot to inquire into,

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Speaker 6: and I would imagine when we get to next year, Ryan,

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Speaker 6: a lot for you and I to.

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Speaker 2: Read, absolutely, and a lot to chat about too. Barry,

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Speaker 2: look forward to it. Enjoy your Christmas break and best

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Speaker 2: to you and here the hope you enjoynny A sunny

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Speaker 2: time off.

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much, Ryan and you two and now

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Speaker 6: wonderful listeners. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, if you are tuning in twenty two after six,

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Speaker 2: great to have you listening. And I hope you're settling

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Speaker 2: into your what do we call this pre Christmas weekend

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Speaker 2: or something like that, your little pre Christmas have a

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Speaker 2: drink basically is what I'm saying. Coming up after the

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Speaker 2: news at six point thirty, we are live to Peter Lewis,

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Speaker 2: our Asia Business correspondent. Also we're in London.

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Speaker 3: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and my HR The

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Speaker 2: Twenty five minutes after six. I've had the privilege in

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Speaker 2: the few short years that I've been doing this job

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Speaker 2: to talk and go to some awesome political events like

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Speaker 2: you know, APEC and stuff like that, where you go

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Speaker 2: to some interesting places. One place I would really like

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Speaker 2: to go, and one political piece of theater I would

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Speaker 2: really love to witness is Vladimir Putin's annual end of

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Speaker 2: year press conference. He's given it overnight, four hours long.

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Speaker 2: It's sort of like a game show, come AGM for Russia,

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Speaker 2: very strange, and he stands in front of the press,

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Speaker 2: which is all his press, right, it's just state media

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Speaker 2: for four long hours and answers questions, including from a

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Speaker 2: guy called Steve Rosenberg. And if you read the BBC,

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Speaker 2: he's BBC's Russia's Russia editor. Imagine being that guy and

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Speaker 2: living in Russi and asking quite challenging questions of Putin

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Speaker 2: in front of the entire nation. That's pretty much what

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Speaker 2: he did. Anyway, Putin just being Potin, saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: I should have started the war in Ukraine earlier, and

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Speaker 2: the reason I started it is because our sovereignty was

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Speaker 2: under threat. He says. He feels the country was in

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01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 2: a better state than when Boris Yelston was in power.

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01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 2: Who was you know, left power twenty five years ago

1505
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,799
Speaker 2: or so so that you go potin just being potient

1506
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 2: at this, but just what a fascinating place to be

1507
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 2: and to be present in. You'd also have to think

1508
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 2: if you were Rosenberg and you were a journalist, you know,

1509
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: for a foreign media outlet living inside Russia, that you

1510
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 2: would be bugged. You'd be spied on up the wazu

1511
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 2: and probably have to take precautions to that. I would

1512
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 2: imagine twenty seven minutes after sex you're on News Talks.

1513
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 2: He'd be News is Next and we're checking in with

1514
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 2: Hong Kong and with Gavin Gray.

1515
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:23,799
Speaker 22: Ever be next to.

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01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Ryan Bridge

1517
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: with the Business Hour thanks to my HR, the HR

1518
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: Solution for busy s Emmy's on News Talk ZIBB.

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01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 2: We never off, Never, We're never off Zealand. Twenty five

1520
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 2: away from seven, you're on News Talk ZAIDB and spare

1521
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 2: thought for everybody who's still working. I'm not talking about me,

1522
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: but I'm talking about people like this Texter who says, hey, Ryan,

1523
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 2: great to see people out and about in Wellington, but

1524
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 2: spara thought for us retail workers who can't slack from home,

1525
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 2: can't finish for Christmas, as there is still four days

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01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: to go and we have to serve those people who

1527
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 2: are all having their days off. Good point, well made. Yes,

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01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 2: you're right. I never did retail myself, but I did

1529
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: do a lot of hospitality in my day, and there

1530
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 2: was nothing worse. I know that feeling because you have

1531
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 2: to someone has to be on duty, don't they, And

1532
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 2: that's you. That's your job, and that's all good. But

1533
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 2: there are some times, and there were some days where

1534
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 2: you just wanted everybody to get the hell out of

1535
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 2: the restaurant, you know, if you're doing the dishes or

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01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 2: you're a weighted there.

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Speaker 13: I was going to say, Ryan, as a veteran of

1538
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 13: retail myself as well, Christmas, not every customer is unreasonable.

1539
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 13: A lot of people are very well organized and they're fine,

1540
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 13: but that person who texted and is probably having to

1541
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 13: deal with the odd person who's really really stressed about

1542
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 13: their Christmas preparations and takes it out maybe a little bit.

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01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 2: Ye, So yeah, yeah, to what we used to do

1544
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 2: to get people out of the restaurant was open the

1545
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 2: windows slightly so that they wouldn't see we were doing it,

1546
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 2: but it would be cold inside. And also there was

1547
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 2: one woman who some described as in most unkind terms,

1548
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: would start the vat cleaner in the corner of the

1549
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 2: room as well, and before you know, the restaurant's empty

1550
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 2: and everyone's going home, Cryan Bridge, right, we're going to

1551
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 2: pay the Lewis Asia Business correspondent who's with us paid

1552
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 2: a good evening, Good evening, Ryan. China has been desperate

1553
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 2: to boost its economy, retail sales of mess the expectations

1554
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 2: and November.

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01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,759
Speaker 23: Yeah, this has been the big theme really of twenty

1556
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 23: twenty four in China. The consumer just does not want

1557
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 23: to spend. And unlike in other Western economies where consumption

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01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 23: can be as much as three quarters of the economy,

1559
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 23: in China it really is lagging behind. So China, which

1560
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 23: has been relying on exports to try and boost its economy,

1561
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 23: that's a pillar that is not going to be able

1562
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 23: to rely on next year, really needs to get consumption going.

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01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 23: One of the reasons why I can't despite all the

1564
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 23: stimulus measures that it's announced is because it hasn't really

1565
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 23: done anything to expand the social safety net in China.

1566
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 23: People are worried about their jobs. Youth unemployment is close

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01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 23: to twenty percent, so very very high. People are worried

1568
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 23: about things like health care, which they after the pandemic,

1569
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 23: many people realize that, you know, they were going to

1570
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 23: have to pay for their own health care. So people

1571
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 23: are saving for these unforeseen circumstances rather than spending, and

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01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 23: that's been a real drag on the economy. So China

1573
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 23: has come up with all sorts of measures to try

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01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 23: and address this, but nothing is really really working. Presidenty

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01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 23: Jinping has said this will be the number one economic

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01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 23: priority next year to boost consumer demand. But the question

1577
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 23: on everyone's lips is how what is actually you're going

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01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 23: to do to do this? And we haven't seen any

1579
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 23: details of any policies yet.

1580
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,600
Speaker 2: No when are we going to see details? Do we

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01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 2: have any indication of when they might come, and if so,

1582
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: how significant they might be.

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01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 23: Well, the China has what's known as its Two Sessions,

1584
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 23: which is its major parliamentary meeting in March, and that's

1585
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 23: when traditionally you get details. For example, it's economic growth targets,

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01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 23: which last year this year was five percent. The rumors

1587
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 23: are it's going to stick with that five percent growth

1588
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 23: target this year as well, But the markets are getting

1589
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 23: very very jittery they just can't wait that long. And

1590
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 23: one of the problems we've had this year is we've

1591
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 23: had a lot of press conferences from ministry officials promising

1592
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 23: all sorts of stimulus, lots of talk, but not much action,

1593
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 23: and very little actually done in terms of real concrete policies.

1594
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 23: So this is getting more and more urgent, particularly because

1595
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 23: the Chinese economy is very, very unbalanced. It's really relying

1596
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 23: a lot at the moment on exports and exporting all

1597
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 23: its over capacity overseas, but that's running into fierce resistance

1598
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 23: from places like the European Union and the United States

1599
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 23: who are putting tariffs on all sorts of products. So

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Speaker 23: it's not going to be able to rely on exports

1601
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 23: next year as its main driver of growth. Has got

1602
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 23: to find a way of getting consumer's consumption going again.

1603
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 2: Right South Korea, what on earth is happening there?

1604
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 12: Now?

1605
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 2: What's the situation around the president?

1606
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 23: Well, he was Congress voted to impeach him. So now

1607
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 23: what happens is there's one hundred and eighty day period

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01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 23: where the Constitutional Court reviews that decision and they will

1609
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 23: decide either to uphold the impeachment or they will decide

1610
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 23: to reinstate him, and they've started that process.

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01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 3: Now.

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01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 23: Now once that one hundred or once they've made that

1613
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 23: decision within that one hundred and eighty day period, they

1614
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 23: then have sixty days after that to hold elections and

1615
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,919
Speaker 23: elect a new president. In the meantime, the current president

1616
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 23: is stripped of all of his responsibilities and the Prime

1617
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 23: Minister has taken over as president. But it's a very

1618
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 23: uncertain situation because it really means right now self pred

1619
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 23: doesn't have a leader, doesn't have a president, it can't

1620
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 23: really take part in major international or diplomatic initiatives, and

1621
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 23: that's going to be very very important with the Donald

1622
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 23: Trump coming to power next month. It's tried to build

1623
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 23: up under the old president alliances with Japan in particular

1624
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 23: and also the United States. So people are wondering what's

1625
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 23: going to happen to those diplomatic initiatives, and everything really

1626
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,560
Speaker 23: is in limbo, which sort of drags on the economy

1627
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 23: and leaves a lot of uncertainty.

1628
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 2: Now there is a potential for a merger between the

1629
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: Carmakers and and Honda. They're holding merged talks. What do

1630
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,759
Speaker 2: we know at the stage, Well.

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01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 23: If this happens, it was reported on Tuesday that they

1632
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 23: are in exploratory talks. The Japanese car makers, as have

1633
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 23: car makers in Europe and elsewhere, have been absolutely decimated

1634
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 23: by the rise of Chinese carmakers. They've really the last

1635
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 23: few years come from nowhere to dominate the electric vehicle market.

1636
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 23: Their brands all over the world now and they are

1637
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 23: really the leading EV carmakers, and it's put enormous pressure

1638
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 23: on these more traditional car makers like Nissan and Honda. Nisan, anyway,

1639
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 23: has been struggling for years. If it were to merge

1640
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 23: with Honda, it would create a fifty two billion dollar

1641
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 23: car giant, and there's talk about including Mitsubishi Motors in

1642
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 23: it as well. This would really transform the auto industry

1643
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 23: because it will basically now turn Japan into a two

1644
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:44,879
Speaker 23: company market in that sector, and the combined Nissan Honda

1645
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 23: Mitsubishi company will be the third largest automaker in the world,

1646
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 23: behind Toyota and Volkswagen. So this is a really transformative deal.

1647
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 23: If it were to happen, it will give the carmakers

1648
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,640
Speaker 23: a lot more scale to make investments to compete with

1649
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 23: the Chinese manufacturers and also with Tesla in the EV space.

1650
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 23: But there is going to be one big problem with it,

1651
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,719
Speaker 23: and that is deals like this, one of the ways

1652
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 23: in which they save costs is there are enormous job cuts,

1653
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 23: and there's a big question mark over whether Japan is

1654
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 23: really ready to face up to the types of layoffs

1655
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 23: that this type of deal would lead to.

1656
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what would they call it? Nissan and Honda?

1657
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 2: Which the name do you go with or do you

1658
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 2: do a hybrid? That's the big question.

1659
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 23: Well, they'll do some sort of new name, like they

1660
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 23: did with Stillantis back in twenty twenty one when fear

1661
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 23: Chrysler joined with Francis PSA group and came up with

1662
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 23: a totally new name called Stellantis.

1663
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 2: I don't like that name. What would you would you

1664
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 2: go like? Hessan, Maybean or Nanda? Thank you very much,

1665
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 2: Peter Lewis that Asia Business correspondent just gone seventeen away

1666
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 2: from seven Brian Bridge? I can't say I've never owned

1667
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 2: in ni San. Here's a text for you. Nine two

1668
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 2: nine two. What's better? Someone says, uh, Nissanda, Merry Christmas Jase.

1669
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 2: Nine two is the number of text. What's better a

1670
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 2: Honda or in Nisan? There you go, off you go.

1671
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 2: I've never owned a Nisan. But my first car was

1672
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 2: a Honda Integra and it was a v tech. Does

1673
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 2: everyone know what a v tech is? And you know

1674
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,879
Speaker 2: what a v tech is, don't you. I can just tell.

1675
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 13: Because the ninety six Hondred Civic sedan I started out

1676
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 13: with didn't have it, which I always wished it had it.

1677
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 2: Oh so you're without a v check, you're a loser.

1678
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1679
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's basically That's basically what everyone told me at

1680
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 13: the time.

1681
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:42,640
Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm like the last person who needs a

1682
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 2: fast car or wants a far you know, I'm not

1683
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 2: that kind of person. But here I was with a

1684
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 2: v tech thinking I was so cool. All they are

1685
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 2: really is like it's like a turbo, isn't it really?

1686
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 2: It just makes it go faster.

1687
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1688
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 24: Yeah.

1689
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 13: It basically takes what is a terribly fast car and

1690
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 13: just makes it somehow, Like does the magic thing that

1691
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 13: suddenly turns it into a hyph before it's machine?

1692
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it makes it there.

1693
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 13: It did at the time when me and me were young,

1694
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 13: which is all we well, we.

1695
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 2: While to go and it makes that noise, you know,

1696
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 2: and it would take off. Yeah, highly dangerous anyway. The

1697
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 2: Honda Intigra great car gearbox blew out cost me. I

1698
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 2: think I paid for the car four grand or something

1699
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 2: like that, and then the gearbox went and that was

1700
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 2: going to be more than one thousand dollars and I

1701
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 2: ended up selling it to a friend for about five

1702
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 2: hundred bucks. So it wasn't a great investment. Should have

1703
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 2: gone with a Nissan, whether it's Macro micro or just

1704
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 2: playing economics.

1705
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 1: It's all on the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and

1706
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: my HR the HR Solution for busy SMEs News Talks FB.

1707
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 2: Thirteen away from seven on News Talks FB, We're just

1708
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 2: talking to out Asia Business corresponding about a potential merger

1709
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 2: between Honda and Nissan, and about your cars. This one

1710
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 2: from Jacob says a Honda Prelude VTech in nineteen ninety

1711
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 2: nine was the best car you could ever own. Someone

1712
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 2: else Brett says a Honda VT engine as one of

1713
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,959
Speaker 2: the most reliable engines of all time. My Honda CRV

1714
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 2: has done four hundred and sixty thousand kilometers and is

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Speaker 2: still going. That is impressive. I thought only Toyotas did that. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: It's twelve minutes away from seven Bryan Bridge. Devin Gray

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Speaker 2: is a UK correspondent Gavin A verdict expected later today

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Speaker 2: in the case against the Italian Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Savigni.

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Speaker 24: Yes, indeed, run this has been a long time coming

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Speaker 24: to court. So basically, there was a non governmental charity

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Speaker 24: boat that was bringing one hundred and forty seven migrants

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Speaker 24: that they'd rescued in the Mediterranean to Italy. But the Italians,

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Speaker 24: and in particularly the then minister for that and now

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Speaker 24: Italian Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini, refused, said no, you

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Speaker 24: can't come here. We're not allowing any more boats and

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Speaker 24: migrants to come to Italy. By that stage, Italy was

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Speaker 24: pretty much in under every day with new migrants arriving,

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Speaker 24: particularly to an island called Lampadusa that one sticks out

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Speaker 24: into the Mediterranean and was therefore nearer for these boats to.

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Speaker 10: Get to anyway.

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Speaker 24: He refused to do it, but eventually the prosecutor in

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Speaker 24: Sicily ordered the vessel to be seized after inspecting it

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Speaker 24: and noting that situation had deteriorated very seriously on board.

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Speaker 24: After this standoff had kept going for three weeks, with

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Speaker 24: the politician Mateo Salvini saying no, you can't come and

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Speaker 24: the non governmental ship the open arms, saying, look, we've

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Speaker 24: got one hundred and forty seven migrants here. They are

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Speaker 24: seriously ill, there's nowhere else for them to go. And

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Speaker 24: the standoff continued until they were allowed on via a

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Speaker 24: prosecutor and a legal ruling. Well, it's all come to

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Speaker 24: court now with Matio Salvin. He accused of kidnapping, dereliction

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Speaker 24: of duty over that refusal to allow there the boat

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Speaker 24: to dock, and indeed prosecutors and sicily have asked judges

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Speaker 24: to sentence him to six years in jail.

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Speaker 10: However, he's a close ally the.

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Speaker 24: Prime minister, the current Prime Minister, Giorgio Maloney, and he's

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Speaker 24: saying I was doing what I had to do to

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Speaker 24: protect Italy. Even Elon Musk has weighed into it, saying

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Speaker 24: that the courts in Italy are sort of weighed against, biased,

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Speaker 24: against in favor of migrants and against the government. So

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Speaker 24: this is going to be a very very interesting decision though.

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Speaker 24: I think if it's against Matteo Savini, we can expect

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Speaker 24: an immediate appeal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like they would too. Let's move to

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Speaker 2: the UK and Minister there has been named in an

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Speaker 2: investigation into an embezzlement case. What can you tell us?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you couldn't make this up.

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Speaker 24: So the minister who's responsible for tackling corruption in UK

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Speaker 24: financial markets is now alleged to be involved in a

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Speaker 24: massive embezzlement in Bangladesh. Sounds odd, doesn't it, But Tulip Sidik,

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Speaker 24: whose family come from Bangladesh, her family were involved in

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Speaker 24: a tie up with Russia to build a massive new

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Speaker 24: nuclear power plant, and that deal was said to be

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Speaker 24: struck in twenty thirteen. However, Tulipsidik, the British MP, who

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Speaker 24: as I said, is a labor minister, has now been

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Speaker 24: named into claims that her family embezzled some eight and

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Speaker 24: a half billion New Zealand dollars from infrastructure projects in Bangladesh.

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Speaker 24: So it was claimed that they deliberately overinflated the price,

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Speaker 24: Russia paid the price, and that the family that Tulipsidik

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Speaker 24: belongs to, which was also connected to the then Prime

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Speaker 24: minister of the country, managed to get the massive amount

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Speaker 24: of sort of backlayers it were from this deal. Now

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Speaker 24: Eulipsidik and her sources are saying these are trump to charges,

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Speaker 24: nothing to do with her completely politically motivated her aunt,

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Speaker 24: who was then leader of Bangladesh has been deposed back

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Speaker 24: in August, and so they're saying this is all part

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Speaker 24: of payback for that. Meanwhile, the Prime Minister says he's

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Speaker 24: got full confidence in Tulip Citygue she will continue her

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Speaker 24: responsibility as the minister overseeing anti corruption efforts. But as

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Speaker 24: you can imagine, the opposition party is having a heyday.

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Speaker 2: With this rah. You can make hay while the sun shines.

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Speaker 2: The typical water build in the UK given is going

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Speaker 2: to increase twenty five percent on average from April. What's

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Speaker 2: driving there?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, well, Ryn, this is a massive at a time

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Speaker 24: when I think people are once again beginning to feel

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01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 24: slightly better, wages rising above inflation. It looks like there's

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Speaker 24: going to be this massive rise, and that particularly is

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Speaker 24: because of a massive amount of work on the infrastructure

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Speaker 24: that needs doing. The many parts of the system are

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Speaker 24: Victorian believed it or not in the sewer system anyway,

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Speaker 24: and so different water companies, because the UK has a

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Speaker 24: sort of regional approach to different water companies in different

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Speaker 24: parts of the country are charging different amounts. But I

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01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 24: did a quick bit of mass and it looks like

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Speaker 24: the average rise is twenty five percent.

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Speaker 10: Now, that's going to be about one.

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Speaker 24: Hundred and ninety New Zealand dollars a year extra. Doesn't

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Speaker 24: sound much, does it. But we've got petrol and fuel

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Speaker 24: prices rising again, electricity prices rising again, and yeah, lots

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Speaker 24: of lots of consumers being need to think when will

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Speaker 24: these rises ever come to it?

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Speaker 2: Opt Yeah, I think we're all wondering the same thing, Gavin.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent. It

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