1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Yet more material that reinforces the idea that Wellington is 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: a mess. This is the Wellington Ruter Report. Of course, 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: there's a scandal all over the place here. Theft was found, 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: cost of doing things were at times three times higher 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: than anywhere else. There was little of any oversight as 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: to whether they were being ripped off. So today we 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: end up with the obligatory emergency meeting. Of course, the 8 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Upper Hearts City Mayor is Wayne Guppy has with us. Wayne, 9 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: morning to. 10 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: You, Good morning Mike. 11 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: If I'd asked you six months ago whether this would 12 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: be as bad as it is, would you have said, yeah, 13 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: I already know about this. 14 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: Well, my counsel has been going on about this for 15 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: about three or four years. But it's falling on deaf is. 16 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: So we certainly smelled a rat. We thought we were 17 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: being over overcharged, and you know, the way it was 18 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: run wasn't right, But my fellow colleagues protected them and 19 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: continued to. 20 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: When you say your fellow colleagues, you're talking about the 21 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: other councils. 22 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: It's right correct. Expiring well Wellington initiated an independent review 23 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: some twelve to fifteen months ago, and it clearly showed 24 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: to a issues. The issues that have raised now out 25 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: of these two reports were there when the Melbourne and 26 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: Independent Company from Melbourne to the report, we tried to 27 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: get it onto the agenda of the Wellington Water Committee. 28 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: They didn't want to discuss it. No, and again so 29 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 2: that the warning signs were there and Wellington City had 30 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: had had initiated that that that that investigation on their 31 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: own and that was never discussed. 32 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: PM yesterday said it's not a proper CECO needs to 33 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: be a proper CEO it does it and if it was, 34 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: would that have fixed it? 35 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: With the governance structure probably would have would have been different. 36 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 2: And that's what we're hoping that as we work towards 37 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: the local water has done well. That's about fixing the 38 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: issues that you know, and there are a number of 39 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: issues the governments, the ownership, et cetera, et cetera. That's 40 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: where the government wants to head and that's what we're 41 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 2: working towards rather quickly and particularly now with the outcome 42 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: of these two reports. 43 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: I looked at the executive board or the executive team 44 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: at Wellington Water. They all seem to be in acting 45 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: positions as there was sort of a change over going 46 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: on at the moment where a few people are being moved. 47 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: On, well, there's people people have left and of course, 48 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 2: look me, uncertainty over the last three or four years, 49 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: and the water in the restrict probably hasn't helped as 50 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: far as the the you know, as far as personnel 51 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: concerned in the workforce, but certainly from the point of 52 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: view of where we sit today, I mean one in 53 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: and water should be in a holding pattern needs to 54 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: be set up. The new organization, good on you. 55 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: One appreciate it, Wayne Guppy. Another indication of why this 56 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: country is buggered for. 57 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: More from the mi Casking Breakfast. Listen live to news talks. 58 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 59 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: on iHeartRadio.