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Speaker 1: So eight am will get the frontier report, We'll get

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Speaker 1: the government's action plan. This is happening very soon. Industry

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Speaker 1: leaders calling for bold moves. Karen Boys's Major Electricity Users

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Speaker 1: group with us this morning. Karen, Good morning, Good morning, Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Have you had a look at the report yet? Have

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Speaker 1: you give men given a copy?

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Speaker 2: No? No, So, just like you and many others, I'm

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Speaker 2: sitting here waiting till eight o'clock deadline for it to

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Speaker 2: come out.

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Speaker 1: Are you are you holding your breath or are you

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Speaker 1: actually realistic that this is going to be more tweaks

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Speaker 1: than bold moves.

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Speaker 2: It's really I mean, I'd like to be optimistic. In

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Speaker 2: hope they've listened to the calls from everybody. I said,

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Speaker 2: the mood of the boardroom was pretty clear that, you know,

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Speaker 2: energy is real concerns. So I hope they've been bold,

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Speaker 2: but I think sadly I'm going to have to be

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Speaker 2: realistic about what they might choose to do.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about Alan.

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Speaker 2: G It's yeah, I said it. We certainly helped with

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Speaker 2: bringing in fuel. I said, obviously we're running out of

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Speaker 2: domestic gas, and I said, any options to a domestically

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Speaker 2: I said, we'll have time if we do discover it

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Speaker 2: and to bring it to market. Ler G does link

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Speaker 2: us to international markets, which means that the cost could

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Speaker 2: be quite high. So I said, it doesn't mean it's

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Speaker 2: the cheap option for the country. It just provides you

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Speaker 2: with I guess, more guaranteed supply.

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Speaker 1: And what about the access to it? You know, who

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Speaker 1: would get access to it? What would the cost be?

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Speaker 1: Are those things that you've looked into that you're worried.

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Speaker 2: About, you haven't looked at it in detail? I said.

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Speaker 2: The big question will be is LERNG available for everybody?

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Speaker 2: And so that means the electricity generators as well as

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Speaker 2: users of guests directly, because I said, industrial users are

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Speaker 2: finding it increasingly hard to get gas at all. So

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Speaker 2: I said, they'll be keen to understand could they access

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Speaker 2: it and what does the cost? Because that don't really

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Speaker 2: decide whether they can afford to use it or have

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Speaker 2: to try and transition or yet make the hard decisions

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Speaker 2: to perhaps stop business.

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Speaker 1: Can you paint a picture for us, Karen, how bad

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Speaker 1: will thinks get? You know, your major in it, electricity

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Speaker 1: users group, your big clients, your big members. What happens

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Speaker 1: if we don't sort this out?

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Speaker 2: I said, some of the businesses at the moment who

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Speaker 2: are struggling to get gas supplies will have to make

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Speaker 2: the hard decisions about whether they can convert over to electricity.

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Speaker 2: Best case, some of them can. I said, then we're

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Speaker 2: faced with a large demand coming to the electricity system,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to be faced with having to build

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Speaker 2: a heat to build fast. The question is can we

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Speaker 2: get the network built out in advance of this, Can

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Speaker 2: we get the generation built, can we get it connected

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Speaker 2: to the system. There's going to be a lot of

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Speaker 2: pressure on the system, and I said, we're already facing

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Speaker 2: quih cost. So I said, you're going to see a

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Speaker 2: real risk a lot of businesses are going to have

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Speaker 2: to reduce production shutdowns. That is a real concern. There

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Speaker 2: are a number of businesses that who do have long

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Speaker 2: term contracts, so that there are a number who will

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Speaker 2: probably be able to wear whether or it out for

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Speaker 2: a while. Sort of question is how long? And the

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Speaker 2: worst thing is we might miss opportunities like dat is

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Speaker 2: another either other technology and innovation that might want to

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Speaker 2: come here that might decide not to. So I said,

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Speaker 2: we're rest losing what we've got, and we're also resc

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Speaker 2: losing what might have come here.

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Speaker 1: Karen, appreciate your time this morning. Karen Boys Major Electricity

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Speaker 1: Users Group.

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