1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Brian Brad it's tough to be a young job seeker 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: right now. Sixteen percent of the fifteen to twenty four 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: year olds in New Zealand currently out of work sixteen percent. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Gen z economist Brad Olsen from Informetric spoke to Nick 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Mills about this issue on news talks that w'd be 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Wellington Mornings earlier today. 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 2: We know that if you're under thirty, your job chances, 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: your job opportunities are just so much more heavier hits 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: than any other part of the economy. 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Mark Giller, director of the New Zealand Careers Expo, with 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: me now, Hey. 12 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: Mark, Hey, how are you right? 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 14 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Good, thank you. Good to have you on the program. 15 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: How tough is it out How tough is it out 16 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: there for people? Young people? 17 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: Oh? Look, it's obviously very tough. I mean there's a 18 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: lot of things going on out there for young people 19 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: to navigate these days. 20 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: And who I mean, is there anything that they could 21 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: be doing better or is it just market conditions? 22 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: Look, market conditions aren't helping obviously. Those stats that Brad 23 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: quoted earlier on today, they show a pretty tough environment. 24 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: But it's never been particularly easy for young people. They 25 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: need to lean on the resources that are out there 26 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 3: to help them navigate their way through. I know Brad 27 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: made the comment it's not the fault of young people 28 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: that it's so tough these days. But while it's not 29 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: necessarily anybody's fault, the owners is certainly there on employers, 30 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: on industry organizations to engage with young people these days. 31 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: That's you know, there's been a propensity to step back 32 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 3: and let the internet that we'll be talking, but we 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: know face to face engagement with young people is what 34 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 3: really inspires them. That's what helps them connect and know 35 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: what their options are. That's where we put so much 36 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: emphasis and so much work into things like the career 37 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: expos that have been running across the country. You know, 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: we've been operating for thirty three years. Every year there's 39 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: a new cohort of young people coming through much the 40 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: same questions on their lips every time, but they need 41 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: to talk to somebody, and that's where the owners comes 42 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: back on to us to connect and help guide and 43 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: inspire them. 44 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: CHET GP to you a good idea for your CV mark. 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: Well, they're helpful tools just to save, as the calculator 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: was when net flist came in, but I think people 47 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: still want to see the personality of each individual come through. 48 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: So they've definitely got to make use of those new 49 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: AI tools that are there, but they've still got to 50 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: let their own personalities come through. Know who they're talking 51 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: to and what they're saying, what they're looking for, how 52 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: best to engage. 53 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because only the other problem, of course will chet 54 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: GPT is once you get into the office and start talking, 55 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: they'll soon work out that it wasn't you that wrote 56 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: the CV. Mark Appreciate your time. Mark Gillard as the 57 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,279 Speaker 1: director of the new Zealing Careers expos 58 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to 59 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 60 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: the podcast on iHeartRadio