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Speaker 1: Newsk TB political leader to Jason Walls is with us

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Speaker 1: this afternoon, Kilder, Good afternoon, Jack. There has been a

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Speaker 1: high level defection at FARMAC. So tell us who's gone

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Speaker 1: and why did he leave?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, it is doctor Anthony Jordan and he is leaving

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Speaker 2: farmac's board. He was meant to actually leave in December

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Speaker 2: this year, but there was a after news broke today

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Speaker 2: I got a statement from farmac's chair Paul Bennett, who

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Speaker 2: said that although his term was meant to expire in December,

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Speaker 2: he's leaving effective immediately. And so this comes just a

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Speaker 2: couple of days after FARMAC was was directed to remove

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Speaker 2: its focus of the Treaty of White Tonguey in terms

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Speaker 2: of its directorships on the board. So I spoke with

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Speaker 2: David Seymour soon after the news came out about what

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Speaker 2: actually went down, and he didn't actually seem all that

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Speaker 2: worried that doctor Jordan was leaving. Have a listen.

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Speaker 3: I think if we've got somebody who felt that embedding

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Speaker 3: the Treaty was a more important priority than improving the

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Speaker 3: access to medicines for all New Zealanders, were probably made

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Speaker 3: the right decision by causing him to move on.

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Speaker 2: So he's not going to lose much sleepover this one.

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Speaker 2: In fact, he told me that he actually learned about

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Speaker 2: this a few days ago, so before the decision was

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Speaker 2: made public, and Seymour actually had a message for anybody

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Speaker 2: else on the board who had a similar way of

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Speaker 2: thinking to doctor Jordan.

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Speaker 3: And if anyone that doesn't want to get on board

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Speaker 3: with that direction, then actually I think they would be

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Speaker 3: making the right choice by following Dr Jordan out the door,

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Speaker 3: I think he.

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Speaker 2: So, he didn't actually say that there had been anybody

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Speaker 2: else that had expressed this, but he's made his opinions

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Speaker 2: on this pretty clear. And it's not like I asked him,

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Speaker 2: you know, based on what had happened, did this give

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Speaker 2: you pause for thought as to whether this was a

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Speaker 2: good idea? And he was digging in his heels and

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Speaker 2: saying it absolutely is. So don't expect Seymour to be

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Speaker 2: losing too much sleep or being too worried about this one.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of David Seymour, he has broken with tradition of

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Speaker 1: sorts and back the horse and the US presidential race. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this was.

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Speaker 2: An interesting one because I was talking to him while

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Speaker 2: I was watching old Donald Trump deliver his speech this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: and I just thought i'd give a bit of a

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Speaker 2: punt as to who he thought, if he would like Trump,

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Speaker 2: or if you'd like Biden. If it wasn't Biden, who

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Speaker 2: he would like instead? So have a listen and your

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Speaker 2: his answer will surprise you. I guarantee it. I'm watching

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Speaker 2: the Republican Congress Congress their national conference right now. If

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Speaker 2: you got a Bob each way in terms of Biden,

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Speaker 2: or if it is Biden or Trump, who would you prefer?

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Speaker 3: Michelle Obama?

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Speaker 2: Why is that?

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Speaker 3: Well in the head to hear, she's the only one

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Speaker 3: that can.

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Speaker 2: Win, right, And do you think that's likely that she's

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Speaker 2: going to take over from Biden?

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Speaker 3: Well, if you were her and you're sitting there, sign,

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Speaker 3: there's one hundred million people that want to beat this guy,

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Speaker 3: and I'm the only one that can, would you do it?

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Speaker 2: So there it is. David Seymour wants Michelle Obama to

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Speaker 2: take over and be a Biden Biden, be a Michelle

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Speaker 2: Obama versus Donald Trump race. I think it would be

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Speaker 2: very interesting.

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Speaker 1: It'll be all the encouragement I'm sure she needs. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what did you make of Whinston Peter's foreign if he

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Speaker 1: is peaked in Japan, you know it was good.

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Speaker 2: It was long without give him that. In fact, I

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Speaker 2: actually watched Peter's speech while I was watching Trump's speech,

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Speaker 2: and by the time Peters was finished, Trump was still going,

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't as long as as trumped. But I

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Speaker 2: thought it was very interesting because there was a very

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Speaker 2: large admission omission rather in his speech. Now I'd like

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Speaker 2: you to listen to what Prime Minister Chris Luxon said

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Speaker 2: while he was chairing the Indoor Pacific Four Forum at

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Speaker 2: NATO last week.

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Speaker 4: Havevialism, the intensifying military relationship we see between Russia and

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Speaker 4: the DPRK, and China's role in supporting the rebuilding of

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Speaker 4: Russia's industrial base demonstrates the indivisibility of security issues between

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Speaker 4: Europe and our part of the world.

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Speaker 2: So it's the line he says about China's role in

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Speaker 2: supporting the rebuilding of Russia's industrial base. Now listen to

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Speaker 2: what Peters had to say in his speech today.

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Speaker 5: We're also concerned by North Koreas and those others, either

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Speaker 5: directly or through the export of dual use technologies, supplying

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Speaker 5: military related technologies to Russia or supporting its war industries

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Speaker 5: to fuel its illegal invasion of Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: So despite the fact talking about the same thing, he

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Speaker 2: dropped the reference to China instead opting for those others

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Speaker 2: not China. So it makes you wonder what's happened behind

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Speaker 2: the scenes to take China out of the equation in

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Speaker 2: such a pivotal speech.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is intriguing. Hey, thank you very much, Jason,

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time. News Talks. He'd be political editor Jason Walls.

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