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Speaker 1: We're going to get to Devin Gray shortly. He is

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Speaker 1: our UK correspondent and he is with us now, Gevin,

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Speaker 1: good evening hither Ryan tell me UK border staff have

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Speaker 1: arrested nearly four thousand migrants what for.

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Speaker 2: Well working illegally in the UK. And those four thousand

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Speaker 2: have been arrested just in the last seven months, so

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Speaker 2: quite an astonishing figure. With four hundred businesses have been raided,

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Speaker 2: a lot of activity in nail bars, car washes and takeaways.

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Speaker 2: Ran I can tell you now it wouldn't have taken

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Speaker 2: a genius to work out that those three particular sectors

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Speaker 2: probably have quite a high level of illegal workers. I

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Speaker 2: mean whenever I passed them, you know, you just see

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Speaker 2: them and you think it looks like no documentation and

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Speaker 2: I think it's all cash in hand stuff, So perhaps

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Speaker 2: that's no surprise they were targeted. In total, three nine

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty were taken, and many of those, we're

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Speaker 2: told were on small boats or small boat migrants that

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Speaker 2: had come over to the UK illegally or those who

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Speaker 2: had overstayed visas. And of course this cash in hand culture,

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Speaker 2: living often in squalid conditions in large groups together, is

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Speaker 2: you know, really awful for them, but all for our

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Speaker 2: economy and society. Frankly, so it's going to be interesting

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Speaker 2: what happens though, because the firms that hire these illegal

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Speaker 2: workers can be fined up to one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: thousand New Zealand dollars per worker, and indeed there have

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Speaker 2: been some one thousand and ninety civil penalty notices since

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Speaker 2: last July. July. That word is important because that's when

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Speaker 2: the new government came in and you know that said

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Speaker 2: they were going to get tough on immigration. Now the

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Speaker 2: figures coming in still are still very high, but at

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Speaker 2: least this does suggest something's being done about it. It

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Speaker 2: comes as MP's debate the Border bills today that will

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Speaker 2: give immigration officers counter terror style powers to flush out traffickers.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, is this the result of

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Speaker 1: some crackdown or is it just an an annual number

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Speaker 1: that they're releasing and updating? It sounds like what It

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Speaker 1: sounds like a bit of both. I suppose is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it more? Are they targeting and getting to more

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Speaker 1: then previously?

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Speaker 2: Yes, they are. The figures You're right, it is the

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Speaker 2: release of some figures early, no doubt, to boost the

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Speaker 2: government's reputation, but the figures are definitely considerably up. And

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Speaker 2: then of course that makes the question, well, what were

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Speaker 2: the last lot doing in power when you know, even

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Speaker 2: I could spot that these industries could have done with that.

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Speaker 2: Of course, there are no ID cards here in the UK,

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Speaker 2: so it's not straightforward. If they do turn up unannounced,

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Speaker 2: you know, people are perfectly entitled to say, well, I

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Speaker 2: haven't got any idea on me actually, so you know

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Speaker 2: what do you want? And that's been part of the

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Speaker 2: problem in the past. But yes, numbers definitely up.

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Speaker 1: Another laboring p apologizing for comments made in a whatsep group.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and one begins to wonder just how far the

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Speaker 2: tentacles of this WhatsApp group are stretching. So it's a

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Speaker 2: newspaper here that has managed to find a WhatsApp group

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Speaker 2: where a string of offensive and abusive messages were shared.

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Speaker 2: Now it appears that many of those on the WhatsApp

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Speaker 2: group are in the Labor Party, the current party of government,

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Speaker 2: and their MPs and other senior figures. It's reported already

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Speaker 2: one has been sacked as Health Minister, and now we

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Speaker 2: learn of a second Labor MP who has apologized over message,

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Speaker 2: saying and I quote that they were completely unacceptable and

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Speaker 2: he regretted not speaking out at the time. He's the

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Speaker 2: Burnley MP, Oliver Ryan. He follows the Health Minister Andrew Gwynn,

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Speaker 2: but it's Andrew Gwinn who had to step down as

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Speaker 2: a minister. Opposition MPs are saying, look, the comments are

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Speaker 2: so well. First of all, they are very ageist, having

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Speaker 2: a laugh at elderly people. They're actually quite homophobe big

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Speaker 2: there's talk about although I haven't seen the relevant once,

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Speaker 2: there's talk about others yet to be released which are

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Speaker 2: quite potentially quite racist. So you know, I'm afraid it's

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Speaker 2: a real mix. And for this to be a WhatsApp

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Speaker 2: group potentially of MPs of the party of Government is

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Speaker 2: obviously deeply damaging. And the opposition MPs and now saying

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Speaker 2: all these people need to be rooted out and sacked

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Speaker 2: and nothing else will do.

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Speaker 1: And do we know exactly Obviously you're making a decision.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming not to say what the what the details are,

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Speaker 1: but is do we know exactly what is in the

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Speaker 1: group or are we just getting reporting that it's really bad?

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Speaker 2: No, we do know. I am kind of just sparing

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Speaker 2: because I think people will be quite offended by some

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Speaker 2: of it. But for instance, it is talking about how

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Speaker 2: the first time a black MP faced off the Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister at Prime Minister's Questions times there was a whole

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Speaker 2: loaded debate about that, including one saying, well, it's some

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Speaker 2: equal opportunities dead or some such thing. I've toned it down,

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Speaker 2: but you know it really is. It's just sneery stuff

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: From the Labor Party. Goodness me, all right, a real

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Speaker 1: first edition of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone Sit

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Speaker 1: to be Thrown Away has been sold at auction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that amazing? And it's something that belonged to

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Speaker 2: a gentleman. It was deceased and it was in a

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Speaker 2: pile of stuff to be thrown from his home, and

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Speaker 2: well you can imagine the delight of an auctioneer who

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Speaker 2: was going through the belongings of this man to then

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Speaker 2: have discovered something of quite such value. Now, these first

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Speaker 2: edition books are incredibly rare nowadays. Sadly people either know

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Speaker 2: their value and have stored them, or are you know,

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Speaker 2: just to have thrown them away accidentally and they're in

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Speaker 2: the bin. But this looks like it's been sold now

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Speaker 2: to an auction actually over the weekend and it came

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Speaker 2: minute some forty three thousand New Zealand dollars and this

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Speaker 2: was down in painting in the Southwest England, with apparently

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Speaker 2: very very great bidding on the phone, online and in

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Speaker 2: the room, and was considerably higher than it was thought.

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Speaker 2: The book, which incidentally was the Harry Potter and the

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Speaker 2: Philosopher Stone first edition was just of a print run

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Speaker 2: of five hundred copies and was among three hundred distributed

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Speaker 2: to public libraries. Incidentally, the misspelling of the philosophers the

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Speaker 2: word philosophers on the back of the copy was among

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Speaker 2: the things that helped the auctioneer identify it as a

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Speaker 2: first edition.

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Speaker 1: Lucky mistake, Devin, thank you very much for Thatkevin Gray

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Speaker 1: are UK correspondent with us.

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