WEBVTT - What to wear when your wardrobe stops working 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:02.200 Hi. 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:04.640 I'm Louise Aerie and this is season six of our 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:07.200 New Zealand here a podcast, The Little Things. 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:08.920 And I'm Francisca Vudkin. Good to have you with us. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.240 In this podcast, we talk to experts. We find out 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:12.720 all the little things that you need to know to 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.200 improve different areas of your life. We cut through the 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:19.720 confusion an overload of information out there to help simplify life. 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:23.959 And today possibly we're going to simplify your wardrobe. Possibly, 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.400 wouldn't that be fabulous? There is a few weekends ago 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:28.000 I round you when you were in the midst of 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:33.160 quad a book clean out of your wardrobe. You're quite 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.680 good at doing a bit of an audit, aren't you. 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.640 It Really I am good at doing it, but I 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.000 don't do it because I need the audit. There's probably 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.040 something else at play. And at the moment, it's just 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.680 like we've got a lot of projects on going on 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:48.800 in the house. Our on suites are fallen apart by 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:50.960 the way that was as we might remember, it was 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:52.879 last September that that happened, and what are we in 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.200 going into winter and it's only just being sorted now. 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:57.840 So you know, there are a few things that are 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:02.440 making my own living space or you know, not comfortable. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.280 So I was like, what can I do for myself. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.679 It's just a bit of control, get of clash and 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:08.640 make things a bit easier. 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.040 Just yeah, because in the in the mornings, and it's 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.480 not that I'm you know, I haven't got time to 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.080 look through my wardrobe. It's more that it's more that 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.520 things that inside out on racks. I don't know if 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.160 that's the habit you have. I cannot believe when I 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.520 do this order, how many things I put back in 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:26.480 the wardrobe inside out. 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:31.000 Oh no, I don't tend to do that, but I yeah, no, 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:32.480 it is it because you've worn it and then you 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:33.920 just put it, i don't. 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:34.039 Know what. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.160 Into my room and putting them into clothes you're wearing 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:40.839 other times and then up again. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.240 No, because it's all under control, and then suddenly it 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.560 doesn't pretty much, that's how it works, right, So things 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.920 are under control. I've got all my t shirts and 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.040 their colors and the and the thing. And then and 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.840 then after a while that just starts to be like no, no, no, 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:56.960 not that one, the one with a different neck, No, no, no, no, 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.720 you know, and then it all just gets messy and 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.120 my wardrober is similar. And also we had the change 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.360 of seasons as well, which I'm not really one of 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.040 those people that change the seasons. I just put a 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.680 jumper under a some address and keep wearing it. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.560 That's what I tend to do. Yeah, there are people 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.640 who do that. No I do that. Oh you do? Yeah? 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.440 You rotate things seasonally? Oh gosh, no, no, no, no, 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.440 I thought you meant just the same clothes but just 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:23.120 add layers. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:24.720 Yeah, no, we both do that. 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:25.040 Yeah. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.600 Yeah, some people rotate their entire wardrobe. 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.440 Oh god, I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't get my head. 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.040 And I think that's the thing. I'm just too lazy. 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.640 It's just too big a job to go through it 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.560 all and try and trim it down and work a 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.880 still out, and so I just live in chaos and 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:38.840 it's not really serving me. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.359 Well. Well, I just like to say, of the two 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:45.000 of us, yes, I have literally nothing under my bed, 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.040 not one item of anything, not on my side, not 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:53.520 on my husband's side. What's your story, Francesca might not 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.840 quite be the same as that, but that's okay. I 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:57.559 pull everything out and vacuum. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:02.640 Under the irricasionally I think for me also, over the 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.280 last five years, my body shapes changed a lot. You know, 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.799 perimenopause hit. Some things change, and I think I also 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.240 just can't be I can't be asked trying to get 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.880 my head around actually what fits anymore? What needs to 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:15.760 go and what can stay? And you know, there's quite 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:16.360 a bit going on. 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.680 There is a thing going on. And my hair colors 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:23.639 changed in the last decade. Yeah, I'm gone from well, 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.720 I don't know how long I was gray, but I've 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.799 gone from blonde to gray, and that does impact things. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.640 And I think I think our skin changes tone as 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.680 well as we age. Is that would that be right? 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.200 I'm not sure, but yeah, I just think there is 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.560 a lot going on for us and we don't stop 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.200 and go. Maybe this just isn't for me anymore. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.160 Maybe we could make them. Let's make this simpler. Let's 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.800 find out ways to make this one simpler. Today we 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.880 are joined by personal stylist and style coach Captain Taylor. 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:00.400 Caitlyn has twenty years experience in the fashion industry across 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.040 both high end fashion and chain store. Through her business, 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:07.080 Chasing Kate, she helps everyday women work out their personal style, 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.840 get their confidence back and feel good in the clothes 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.800 they wear. Caitlin, welcome, So good to have you with us. 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:14.960 Thanks for having me. Guys excited to be Oh. 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.479 We're excited to have you. It's going to be a 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.680 very interesting conversation. I suspect and a bit of fun. 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.359 Yeah, you deal with a lot of women through your business. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.240 What are the main issues women face when it comes 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:28.679 to styling and dressing themselves? 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.800 Oh? That could be a whole podcast in itself, couldn't it. 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.600 The biggest thing I see is people getting a little 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:38.479 bit stuck with their style. So they've probably been through 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.160 some sort of life change, so they've come out the 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.599 other end and gone, what am I doing? The clothes 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.080 don't fit like they used to do, The can't find 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.839 the things in stores that they like anymore, They don't 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:52.160 know what suits their body, or they just the complete opposite. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:53.920 They have a wardrobe full of clothes and they don't 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:55.880 know what to do with them because they're overwhelmed. So 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.680 overwhelm is a word that comes up so much from 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.760 women at either the spectrum that overwhelmed with choices out there, 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:03.599 don't know what to do, or they're overwhelmed but they've 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:04.480 got their own wardrobes. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.799 For sure. I'm definitely underwhelmed my wardrobe at the moment. 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.719 Do you think that it is important for people to 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.279 have their own personal style or do you think that 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:14.360 boxes us in too much? 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.440 No, I really do. But your personal style could be 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.800 so eclectic that you wouldn't be able to put a 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.800 name on it, but it's still your style. So I 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.840 think it's it's such a cool way to express who 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:25.800 you are without having to walk around with a resume 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.520 on your head. So it gives you that freedom to 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:28.800 be you. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.880 Really. That's interesting because before we did this podcast, I 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.479 owned it up on some AI thing and it was 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.839 trying to get me to determine what my personal style was, 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:38.320 and it was trying to get me to describe it 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:39.160 in three words. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.279 Oh I do do that, Oh you do I do? 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.000 But that's only one element of it, right, Yeah. So 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.760 there's your words, there's your colors, there's your body shape, 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.880 there's your best bits. So there's a whole kind of 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.239 like your foundations, your staff foundations. 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:54.599 Well that makes sense. That was trying to sum it 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.279 all up in three words. That's impossible, But I like 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.280 the idea that you don't kind of feel like you 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.680 have to be fully defined by just sort of one 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.919 one style that can be a clctic And did you 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.360 get to three words? No? Not well no, all I 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:12.480 came up with was All I came up with was sneakers, 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.320 dress and cardigan because I like to keep things really simple. 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.520 I like to wear as little as possible, and I 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.960 just and some pot I just put tights on and 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:21.320 a cardio over the top. 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:23.719 You know of a dreas yea, but simple could be 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:24.240 one of your words. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:25.560 Yeah, so it's comfy. 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.960 Comfy or make comfy for me is a given? So 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.440 that doesn't that shouldn't be a word because everyone should 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.560 be comfy, regardless of w caring. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.760 I think is we're a word back there we go, 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:36.760 you got tom to go. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.359 If we will. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.240 Have those we will have those words. Do we all 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:42.760 have a bit of style even if we don't know it. 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.320 If you're sort of thinking, oh, I don't really have 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.000 any personal soul, maybe we do one hundred percent. You do. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.880 Everybody does. There's also that style that's kind of maybe 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.960 hiding inside you. So when I get my clients to 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.479 think about their style, we talk about slightly aspirational. So 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.000 where do you want to be Where do you want 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.400 to go? And I had a beautiful client last week. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.960 Start of the session was really kind of shy, but 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.520 you could see she really wanted to go bolder. By 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.880 the end of the session she was making bolder choices. 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.160 She just needed permission to do it. So I think 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.040 everybody's got style inside them. It's just about how to 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:15.200 get it out and how to define it. 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:19.200 Why do we why do we need to ask for permission? Oh? 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.520 Who knows? Because we've been told constantly to be smaller 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.480 and to be quieter and to not stand out. And 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.160 you know that one person said that one thing that 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:32.000 one time about what you're wearing, and it's stuck with you. Yeah. Yeah, 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:33.560 it's a lack of confidence, is what it is. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.200 It's even in the short time we've been talking, it's 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.120 got my head spinning because I'm thinking, yeah, you're right. 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:41.600 These are the things we put on the outside of 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:45.160 our bodies every single day and greet the world, and 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.960 we're not maybe greeting it as authentically as we could. 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.040 It's the first thing people say. And you hate to 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.840 set people judge you on appearances, But like I said, 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.920 you don't walk around with the resume on your head. 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.400 So what you wear and how you show up is 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:58.960 very much that first impression. 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.280 And well, I'm not personally judging anyone else, but I'm 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.720 starting to be quite judgmental live myself here. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.480 Yeah, I think, Well, I think it's about having the 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.240 confidence to just be who you are, and like for 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.840 my clients, it's about being able to get up, get dressed, 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.000 feel like themselves and then get on with their day 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.680 and actually not then stress about what they're wearing or 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.440 like does this fit or does this suit me? For 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:20.880 the rest of the day. They just I want to 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:22.400 give them the confidence to be them. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.240 So where do you start? Where do you start with 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.000 a client when it comes to defining what their personal 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:28.480 style is. 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.760 Also, that's staff foundations that we talked about are kind 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.040 of the key. So that for me creates a framework. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.240 So it's not rules, but it's a framework that we 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:39.120 can work within, especially if we get overwhelmed. So understanding color, 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.440 and that's less about you're an autumn mirror winter and 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.480 more about understanding where you sit on the spectrum of 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.120 color and then how you can put colors together. So 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.240 that's a real key piece. Understanding your colors, understanding your 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:55.240 best bits. Dressing well is about dressing to the parts 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.000 of your body that you've got the most confidence in 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.360 drawing attention to, rather than dressing to hide. So many 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.240 women dress, Oh I just need to hide my tummy 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.520 or I need to hide my arms. What about if 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.040 we dressed in a way that makes us feel confident 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.360 about our bodies and that doesn't mean revealing, but it 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:11.320 means drawing attention. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:11.720 Toe. 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:13.760 So we look at color, we look at best bits, 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.839 and we look at your style personality, which is a 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.400 couple of words that can kind of help describe where 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:20.360 you want to take your style. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.320 Okay, right, so I've been wanting to talk about colors 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.200 for a long time. You go, Loo, when before we started, 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.720 you were talking about some cream Tracki's with a big 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.360 and deeese stripe, I think, And you said they're great 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.000 on the bottom because cream's not my color on top, 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.480 you know, And you know this, how do you know? 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:39.440 Yeah? So color is kind of like a spectrum. So 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.280 there's cool and warm tones, and there's basically dominant and 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:46.320 muted tones as well. So it's about color. The colors 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.960 that lift you up are colors that kind of almost 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.520 mimic your coloring. So what often happens with women as 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.560 we get confused a bit because our hair color might 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.280 change or our skin tone might change a little bit, 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.440 and so we get confused that we're put in a 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.079 box of like you're an autumn and then all of 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.440 a sudden, your hair might change and you've slid down 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.040 to kind of a spring when you're talking about seasons. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.440 But having that confidence in color, it's just the colors 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.120 that make you glow. And then what it means when 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.960 you walk into a store, you can then eliminate half 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.000 the shop because you just go, that's not my side. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.320 When you see it. Just before mimicking your coloring, I 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.000 was just going, I don't know if it's cind of 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.839 I feel like I'm mimicking tiredness or something like, how 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.000 do you kind of you know what what color goes 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:28.720 with tiredness? 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:30.360 Right? 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:31.160 Okay? Yeah? 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.000 As opposed to right. If we feel tired and yucky, 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.360 our immediate default is to hide in black, and to 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.400 hide in gray, and to hide in maybe Howard in beige. 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.600 But if you fake it till you make it, Yeah, 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:47.040 put on a color that like imagizes you and it 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.520 will often make you feel better. So again Colour Psychology, 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.760 whole nother podcast. But there's so much power in color 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.080 alone to change how we feel about ourselves. You know 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:00.480 when you put on the right color, because immediately your 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.480 eyes pop and your skin glows and you feel like ha, 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:05.920 Whereas you're not going to put a color on and 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.520 go I look terrible on this. I can't wait to 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:08.240 wear it all day. 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.720 Looking at Louise, because Louise has been talking to our 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.959 produced security and myself about colors and we should be 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:14.600 getting our colours done for quite a while, we've been 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.160 laughing at her and tell her to going about the eighties. 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.520 If you look at Louise, what colors would you suggesce 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:21.199 would suit her? 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.160 So my first question to Louise would be what are 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:24.520 your three favorite colors to wear? 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:29.280 Wow? Green, yes, blue yes, and probably rid yeah. 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:30.600 And what three colors do you avoid? 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:37.120 Oh, cream, I don't. I like brown, but I probably 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.480 don't wear it very much. And I do like mustard 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:44.200 as well. Yeah, they're probably the main ones. Actually black 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.360 is really aging me now, yeah, like close to my 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:47.520 face is aging me. 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.560 And that's quite telling. So like that's the first question 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.840 I ask clients, rather than diving in and saying to them, 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.040 these are the colors you can and can't wear. It's like, 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:55.800 what do you like to wear? So the fact that 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.199 you avoid creams and browns generally, I would put you 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.360 in the cool camp. So we want colors that are 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.920 clean and clear and crisp, so blue based colors, so 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.840 your coloring has that clearness to it, which means crisp 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.000 colors are going to look better. But if I look 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.280 at your coloring, so the contrast between your skin, your hair, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.920 and your eyes, it's what we would call quite muted. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.640 So you have soft coloring. So if you look at me, 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.800 I have fair skin, but I have dark hair and 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:24.000 dark eyes, so my coloring is much more is stronger, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.880 more dominant. So I'm also a cool tone, but I 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.360 sit at the stronger end of coloring, so I can 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.880 wear strong color. You sit at that kind of more 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.199 soft end of coloring, so softer color. The fact that 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.560 you said no black tick because black is basically the 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.160 absence of light, so it's a really really strong kind 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.679 of force. So black will overpower you basically Now as 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.120 you yeah, as you soften. 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.319 Interesting because you do look beautiful. You know, you've got 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:53.760 that gorgeous sort of purply light, purply icily Drea you 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.280 wear that you look gorgeous and things like that. There 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:59.280 we go, There we go. Does that sound good that we'd. 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.400 Call you a summer Yeah, But what can happen is 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.160 we can kind of cross that barrier. So for me, 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.240 that color that muted through the dominant is a sliding scale, 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.080 and we can shift up and down that scale sometimes. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.880 So for you to be put in that summer camp, 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.920 so to speak, it means that you're kind of you 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.160 hit a limit, but there is no limit because you 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:18.920 can just slide up and down the scale a little bit, 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:22.680 more so by leaning into colors like red that's traditionally 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.040 a more winter color or a dominant color, but you 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:26.160 can still make that work. 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.480 So this is going to lead into a question later 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.520 on about the capture wardrobe that that's my issue with 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.560 it is that we'll get there later. 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.160 How are you inserted in let's talk about best bits. 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.439 I love the way you. I love it too. It's 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:43.400 just like, let's move on to best bits. When somebody 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.319 tells you what they think their best bits are, do 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.080 you tend to agree or do you think that a 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.040 lot of the time we might be missing what our 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:51.559 best bits. 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.920 I one hundred percent let you choose your best okay, 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.839 because if you're getting dressed, you need to feel good 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.280 in those best bets. So what I like when clients 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:00.880 go I had to ask my husband or I had 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:02.480 to ask my friend, I'm like, yeah, but what do 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:06.160 you think are your best bits? So I think that ultimately, 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:08.480 I might say to a client, oh, but you look 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.240 great if your waist was defined, but they don't want 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:11.600 to do that. They want to show us your legs 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.680 power to them, Like, ultimately, yeah, yeah, what you wear 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.040 is up to you. So yeah, I'm I'm very much 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.520 supportive of what my clients would choose as their own 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:20.160 best bits. 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:21.240 Oh, I like that. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.720 And I do think that as a probably confronting question 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.640 for a lot of us, very much so, because we 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.080 don't reflect on that often enough. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.280 Yeah, and I ask it that way really intentionally. So 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:32.680 what I don't ask my clients is what are the 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.040 bits that they want to hide? Very much, make them 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.040 focus on the bits they want to highlight. It's much 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:38.560 more powerful when you're getting dressed. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:39.880 If you said that to me off the top of 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.120 my head, I would go, best bits, wrists and ankles. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:43.080 But that doesn't really give you. 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:48.120 But that's one of mine. It's all that just like 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:49.000 just pull your sleeves up. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.520 It's like little. Yeah. 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.120 So what I would then encourage you to do is 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.560 think about some bigger body parts. So that's a great start. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.560 It's a great start. How else can we So it's 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.600 just that, know it is, But it's gentle steps, right 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.480 and I just got great boobs, yeah right, see, But 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:05.520 I pre warm my clients. 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.160 They would if I had a decent bra I tell you, 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:09.520 don't get me started on the bras. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.320 But I give clients like a warm up. I give 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.160 them time to think about it. And I'm really I 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:14.800 was thinking on that head for give them rather than 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:15.800 asking them on the spot. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.640 And I think you'd sits probably are the things that 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.359 possibly change over a lifetime, right, Yeah? 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.600 Is that how we work out what suits us and 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.000 what doesn't by just trying things on and working out 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:25.680 how we feel? 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.320 Yeah, one hundred percent. And I think that, like what 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.640 suits me is such a loaded question because what do 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.280 we mean when we say what suits me? So for 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.080 so many people it means what makes me look skinnier, 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:40.120 And that's like that's not necessarily what you feel the 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.600 best in. So it really comes down to what do 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.480 you feel the most like you in. So again there's 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.160 there's checks and boxes. Right, there's rules, the treatings, and 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.080 a daze of this is your body shape, this is 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.680 the only neckline to wear. Show me a fashion role 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.440 and I'll show you how to break it. I feel like, 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.200 if you feel good in something, I'm doing it today, 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.320 like as an hour with a bust. I should be 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.400 wearing a V neck and I've got my shirt buttoned 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.520 all the way up, and that feels much more like 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.360 me than if I had it open in and V. 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.040 Do you know, I don't think I ever think about 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:11.960 I don't think I ever think about it that way. 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:13.720 I think I always just look on the in the 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.800 mirror and make a judgment on what I see. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.040 And how I feel exactly, Whereas I think some people 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:19.880 get too clinical and be like, oh, I have to 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.800 wear this length skirt and this slink shoes or this neckline, 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.280 and that's almost too restricted. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.000 But I don't think about how it makes me feel. 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:28.120 I just think about how it. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:32.680 Looks interesting, which is which can be both. Right, You're like, 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:36.120 if you must if it looks good, you must think 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:37.840 I feel good in it. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.080 Maybe she's just still to my I think I'm just 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.680 accepting it. Really, go okay, that's it's got to get 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:45.400 out of the beast and I can do great, then 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.320