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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from Newstalks at b.

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Speaker 2: It's not your weekend.

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Speaker 2: Saturday Morning with jackdam News Talks at BOD.

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Speaker 4: Good morning and welcome to Newstalks eDV. Jack Tame with

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Speaker 4: you through to mid day to day, our third to

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Speaker 4: last show of twenty twenty five. My goodness, it is

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Speaker 4: going fast. But if you are not yet sorted for

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Speaker 4: the big day, we have you sorted this morning at

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Speaker 4: least some simple ideas, so be fourteen o'clock our food

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Speaker 4: is going to be in. She's got a really delicious,

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Speaker 4: simple little recipe suggestion if you want to give someone

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Speaker 4: an edible gift this Christmas, a pistachio and cranby biscotti

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Speaker 4: recipe that we will share before ten o'clock. It's one

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Speaker 4: of those things that, with just a little bit of

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Speaker 4: effort in the kitchen, you know, you put it in

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Speaker 4: a nice jar something like that, a couple of ribbons. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: it looks an absolute treat. It tastes an absolute treat

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Speaker 4: as well, and you will be pulling off a winner

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Speaker 4: come the twenty fifth. As well as that our feature

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Speaker 4: interview this morning after ten o'clock, Alice Taylor from Alice

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Speaker 4: Taylor Eats is going to be with us. You will

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Speaker 4: probably know Alice Taylor from Master Chef, but she has

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Speaker 4: had this incredible cut through on social media. And I'm

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Speaker 4: not someone who usually it's too excited by social media,

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Speaker 4: but clearly Alice's recipes and messages are having a massive

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Speaker 4: impact on so many people. She has hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 4: of followers, people who tune into her for really simple

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Speaker 4: tips on saving money while eating well. So Alice is

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Speaker 4: going to be with us after ten o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 4: Looking forward to that. Right now, it is eight minutes

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Speaker 4: past nine, Jack dam The moment the syllable us spilled

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Speaker 4: from my mouth, I knew I'd screwed up and a

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Speaker 4: repeat offender, I said, verse a detective dog. Verse. It

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Speaker 4: was the opening few stanzas of last night's one News,

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Speaker 4: the part of the show where we tease a few

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Speaker 4: of the evening's top stories. And as the opening credits played,

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Speaker 4: with my microphone fader pulled down, I called out to

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Speaker 4: my producer in frustration with myself verse, I said, versus versus.

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Speaker 4: The emails flooded in. I knew they'd be waiting for

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Speaker 4: me just as soon as the bulletin finished, polite but

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Speaker 4: gently critical messages kindly informing me that, due to myriad

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Speaker 4: inadequacies in the New Zealand education system, I had used

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Speaker 4: a term more appropriately associated with Shakespeare or Keats than

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Speaker 4: that of the cunning pest control dog starring in the

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Speaker 4: evening bulletin. There is a difference between verse and verses.

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Speaker 4: But hey, did you notice there how I used myriad.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about you, but it drives me crazy

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Speaker 4: when I hear people talk about a myriad of something

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Speaker 4: and it shouldn't. It really shouldn't, because apparently a myriad

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Speaker 4: of is actually perfectly correct. Myriad started its English language

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Speaker 4: life in noun form, and yet any time someone opts

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Speaker 4: for myriad of instead of the adjective usage, the snooty

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Speaker 4: language snob in me can't help but curl his toes.

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Speaker 4: It's the same. Unfortunately, when people say less instead of fewer,

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Speaker 4: there are not less than thirty days until the new year.

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Speaker 4: There are fewer than thirty days, duh. And I hate

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Speaker 4: to admit it, but I'm not fussed whether you are

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Speaker 4: a stranger, a colleague, or my long suffering wife. I

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Speaker 4: am that miserable sod who can't help but wait fewer

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Speaker 4: than a few split seconds before pretentiously correcting your mistake.

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Speaker 4: The other one that really gets my goat, and yes

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Speaker 4: is when anyone observes that the proof is in the pudding.

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Speaker 4: The proof is not in the pudding. The proof of

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Speaker 4: the pudding is in the eating. Makes sense when you

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Speaker 4: actually think about it, doesn't it. Speaking of mastication, my

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Speaker 4: dad was recently spun into a state by the repeated

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Speaker 4: insistence of a prominent sports person that they were chomping

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Speaker 4: at the bit for an upcoming contest. Chomping at the

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Speaker 4: bit rather than champing at the bit. I suppose that

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Speaker 4: really would be a remarkable level of excitement. Look, I

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Speaker 4: know that language is alive, right, I know that language

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Speaker 4: morphs and evolves. But for those of us who care

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Speaker 4: to conserve usage principles and don't mind putting others right

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Speaker 4: from time to time, there is nothing like erring while

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Speaker 4: reading the news before seven hundred thousand people for a

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Speaker 4: rude taste of one's own medicine. How quickly the corrector

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Speaker 4: becomes the correctid. Myriad grammar and usage errors might get

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Speaker 4: plenty of other grammar and usage tyrants out there positively

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Speaker 4: if my cautionary tale will have any impact. The proof

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Speaker 4: of the pudding is in the eating. But if you

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Speaker 4: have learnt anything, maybe you will make fewer errors rather

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Speaker 4: than less after listening to this verse verse, you know,

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Speaker 4: as opposed to versus Jack. Team ninety two is our

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Speaker 4: text number if you want to send us a message

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Speaker 4: this morning, Jacket Newstalks, dB dot co dot Z. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I'm curmudgeonly and I own it. I would love to

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Speaker 4: hear from you this morning. Speaking of language errors, I've

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Speaker 4: just got off watching the FIFA World Cup draw, which,

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Speaker 4: my goodness was an experience. I mean FIFA, honestly, they

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Speaker 4: just they are so brazen about the grift, right, They're

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Speaker 4: just so brazen about they just lean into being this

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Speaker 4: kind of satirical organization. Honestly, if you wrote this morning's

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Speaker 4: World Cup draw as a satire, people would say that's

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Speaker 4: too much. You got to you gott to tone it down.

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Speaker 4: So a couple of examples. First of all, they presented

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump with the first ever FIFA Peace Prize, which

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Speaker 4: he said was one of the greatest, one of the

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Speaker 4: greatest acknowledgments or most meaningful things that he had received

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Speaker 4: in his entire life. As well as that, we had

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Speaker 4: various sporting stars excruciatingly presenting the lamest of jokes over

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Speaker 4: a couple of hours. I think Heidi Klum was on

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Speaker 4: stage at one point with Rio Ferdinand and Shaquillo. New

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Speaker 4: Wayne Gretzky, the ice hockey great was pulling out the

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Speaker 4: draw names for New Zealand's, for New Zealand's you know

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Speaker 4: pool And you would think if you were doing a

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Speaker 4: job like that, you have a quick browse through the

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Speaker 4: countries that you're going to be pulling out right the

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Speaker 4: potential countries. So when Wayne pulled out North Macedonia, he said,

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Speaker 4: he said North Macedonia, which was which was good? Curasao,

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Speaker 4: I think he said krak Oo. So look, it's a

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Speaker 4: it's a sport for everyone, and this morning was an experience,

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Speaker 4: to say the least. We're going to get us for

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Speaker 4: those thoughts on the All Whites versus Egypt, versus Iran

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Speaker 4: and Belgium, the next year's World Cup, and I think

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Speaker 4: they're expecting to announce the match schedule in the next

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Speaker 4: couple of days. Right now, it's fourteen minutes past nine.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Memon will kick us off for our Saturday Morning

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Speaker 4: next It's Saturday Morning. I'm Jack Day. This is news

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Speaker 4: Talk Zed be.

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Speaker 2: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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Speaker 2: Saturday Morning with Jack.

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Speaker 3: Team News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 4: Jack, did you just give us one verse this morning

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Speaker 4: versus multiple verses? Bravo, Jack, You've made the sixty three

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Speaker 4: year old woman not feel quite so old as she

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Speaker 4: rails against the decline and language standards and usage.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I now have hope again that standards may not be

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Speaker 4: at risk of completely disappearing. So funny Jack, Love it.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 4: I always though it was rearing to go, as in

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Speaker 4: a horse rearing, rather than the rearing I hear. Now, Look,

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Speaker 4: there are so many examples, right, so those are just

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Speaker 4: the ones, the ones that get me going, that get

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Speaker 4: my goat. I'm sure you've got a few examples as well,

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Speaker 4: so by all means, send them through an only two

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Speaker 4: ninety two is the text number. Jacket News TV dot

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Speaker 4: co dot NZ. Kevin Melner is with us this morning.

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Speaker 4: More in a Kevin, what.

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Speaker 5: In a jack are we going to talk about Christ's College?

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Speaker 4: I think we should leave it, don't you think, Kevin?

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Speaker 4: I think we should leave. Well, they've been in the

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Speaker 4: news enough this week. I think we can leave them.

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Speaker 4: Leave them be, I think.

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Speaker 5: But I think there's a lesson though, wasn't there? If

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Speaker 5: if you're going to get involved in that kind of

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Speaker 5: thing and make a national issue, make sure that the

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Speaker 5: that the offending words don't suddenly become part of a

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Speaker 3: Diction. What's the word national conversation? Conversation?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I thought to the whole thing. Actually I

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Speaker 4: did think, well this is I now had all of

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Speaker 4: these people saying to me, you're from christ Church. What

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Speaker 4: does this mean?

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Speaker 3: Said, yeah, we probably don't need to go.

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Speaker 6: There, but no idea?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, did you used to get corrected when

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Speaker 4: probably never made any usage.

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Speaker 5: My memory was one day reading the lunchtime news on

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Speaker 5: that the alternative spelling for jail was which was g

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Speaker 5: long time to spend on the gold Mouth.

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Speaker 4: It's an awful, awfully long time to spend in the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and of course you got back to the newsroom

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Speaker 5: and everybody's cheering and.

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Speaker 3: Taking the mac and it was awful. Really, Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: just have to It's a terrible.

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Speaker 5: Place to find out. It's a live TV to such

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Speaker 5: a huge audience. It's a terrible way to find out

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Speaker 5: that you've been is pronouncing a word.

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Speaker 4: Well except that, except that when you are an insufferable

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Speaker 4: see your email and box full of people saying Jack,

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Speaker 4: it's versus not verse. I knew it as well. That

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Speaker 4: was a frustrating thing. But anyway, Kevin, we digress. Hey, Kevin,

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Speaker 4: you you want to talk about changing drinking habits this morning.

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Speaker 5: I was impressed to hear on Thursday that New Zealand

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Speaker 5: Alisa King has secured a big deal selling her AF

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Speaker 5: drinks that's alcohol free canned cocktails throughout the UK. These

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Speaker 5: drinks mimic the taste of classic cocktails, but without using alcohol.

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Speaker 5: Here's a woman who started af drinks at her home

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Speaker 5: as a COVID lockdown project just five years ago. Five

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Speaker 5: years then launched successfully into the huge US market. Her

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Speaker 5: Can Drinks are now in forty one states across America.

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Speaker 5: So she's just announced she's now launching through Morrison's supermarkets

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Speaker 5: and convenience stores in Britain right through the UK.

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Speaker 3: What I especially like about this, though, is.

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Speaker 5: Breaking into what's an expanding no alcohol, low alcohol market,

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Speaker 5: especially among young drinkers. As King says, this isn't about sobriety,

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Speaker 5: It's about moderation and I love this from her. A

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Speaker 5: new wave of mindful drinkers is redefining what it means

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Speaker 5: to be social, sophisticated and in control. Didn't that sound cool?

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Speaker 3: Jack? What do you reckon? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah it does. Yeah, I think it sounds great.

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Speaker 5: I think if there's a new generation of drinkers coming

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Speaker 5: through who just don't want to drink till they fall over,

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Speaker 5: this is wonderful.

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Speaker 3: According to Statistics New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: The volume of alcohol and beverages available in New Zealand,

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Speaker 5: the volume of alcohol is going down In other words,

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Speaker 5: New Zealanders are saying, yes, I still want to drink,

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Speaker 5: but I don't want so much alcohol in it.

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Speaker 3: I remember when no.

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Speaker 7: Compared to the rugby compared to Rugby World Cup drawer,

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Speaker 7: It would be a massive, massive shock if they upset Belgium.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh here you go. The Rugby Peace Prize went

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Speaker 4: to Ittsabeth. Yes, very droll, all right, he will keep moving,

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Speaker 4: Bete noirs this morning, says Ana. The proof is in

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Speaker 4: one stream song. But there you go. I'm always about

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Speaker 4: three years behind the behind the times when it comes

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Speaker 4: to what's calling the music front. Anyway, twenty time to

435
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Speaker 4: get your film picks for this weekend. Francesca Rudkin, our

436
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Speaker 4: movie reviewer, is here with her two picks this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Hey Francesca, good morning. Let's begin with a movie showing

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Speaker 4: in cinemas. This is Eternity. You passed away, Larry, Who

439
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Speaker 4: are Anna?

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Speaker 9: I'm your after life coordinato.

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Speaker 10: That's not a job.

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Speaker 11: And this is the junction where you choose one place

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Speaker 11: to spend eternity and who to spend it?

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Speaker 10: Well, John, John, you Dad?

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, tell us about Eternity.

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Speaker 8: This is just such a fun film. I love the premise.

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00:24:48,813 --> 00:24:51,853
Speaker 8: I think romantic comedies fell into a little bit of

448
00:24:51,853 --> 00:24:54,333
Speaker 8: a trap of becoming these kind of cookie cut of

449
00:24:54,373 --> 00:24:56,493
Speaker 8: films and they were all sort of the same and

450
00:24:56,533 --> 00:25:00,533
Speaker 8: we judged, you know, a romantic comedy on whether it

451
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Speaker 8: was as good as the last one we saw. And

452
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Speaker 8: what we've been seeing a little bit recently is some

453
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Speaker 8: really great directors going. Actually, there's so much more to

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Speaker 8: this genre and we can have so much more fun

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Speaker 8: with it, and we can also have some quite good discussions,

456
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Speaker 8: you know, within a romantic comedy. And this film Eternity

457
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Speaker 8: is by the director David Freen and he found it

458
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Speaker 8: on Blacklist and Blacklist jack is you probably know. It's

459
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Speaker 8: kind of an annual list of the best unsold new screenplays.

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Speaker 8: They're available in Hollywood, So these are the screenplays that

461
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Speaker 8: haven't been picked up by a studio or an independent

462
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Speaker 8: studio and things and people go on and they find

463
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Speaker 8: them and then you kind of bid for them and

464
00:25:37,453 --> 00:25:40,813
Speaker 8: you try and get the rights to them. And David

465
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Speaker 8: just loved the story, and I can completely see why.

466
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Speaker 8: It's just this really original premise. He's cast it beautifully,

467
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Speaker 8: got great performances.

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Speaker 12: It's full of whitch.

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Speaker 8: It's got some epic love stories as well, and a

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Speaker 8: little bit of an existential crisis. But it's this nice

471
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Speaker 8: mix of both fun and light but as well as

472
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Speaker 8: being sort of moving and a little bit different, so

473
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Speaker 8: it remains a bit more memorable. So basic, when you die,

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Speaker 8: you go to a transferred junket in a way, you die,

475
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Speaker 8: you wake up on a train, You get to this

476
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Speaker 8: massive train station, you get to the center and your

477
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Speaker 8: house there for seven days while you decide where you

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Speaker 8: were going to spend eternity. And it's very cleverly done.

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Speaker 8: It's like a whole lot of hotels. Then in the

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Speaker 8: middle it's like a conferences. Everyone's got their booths trying

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Speaker 8: to sell you on their worlds. You know, there's Beach

482
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Speaker 8: World or Bromance World or Studio fifty four World or

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Speaker 8: anything goes eternity. If you need a safe word, it's

484
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Speaker 8: got amusing the men Free World, but that was already

485
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Speaker 8: booked up. You could go to Paris in the thirties.

486
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Speaker 8: You could go to Germany in the thirties, but it's

487
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Speaker 8: before the Nazis. There are no Nazis. So they created

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Speaker 8: all these worlds that you might want to go and

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Speaker 8: spend eternity in. And you've got seven days to choose.

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Speaker 8: And when you turn up to this junction, this center,

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Speaker 8: you arrive as you were at your most happiest. So

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Speaker 8: our two characters Hi Larry and Jane in their nineties.

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Speaker 8: Larry dies suddenly he ends up at the junction. He

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Speaker 8: knows Joan's really sick and that she's going to arrive soon,

495
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Speaker 8: so he gets a job and hangs around instead of

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Speaker 8: choosing an eternity waits for her she arrives. Now they

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Speaker 8: both arrived sort of young when they met, so they're

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Speaker 8: played by Elizabeth Olsen and Miles Taller. But what and

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Speaker 8: Miles Taller who is Larry. He's waiting for his wife,

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Speaker 8: Joan to come. They've had sixty five years together, they've

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Speaker 8: raised kids. Of course they're going to spend a two together.

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Speaker 8: But this plan has done into a little bit of

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Speaker 8: disarray because also waiting at the junction is Joan's first fiance,

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Speaker 8: who died in a war sixty years ago, and he

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Speaker 8: has been waiting for her. So all of a sudden,

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Speaker 8: she has to make this decision. Do I spend eternity

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Speaker 8: with this man that I didn't get to live a

508
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Speaker 8: life with but we had this beautiful young romance that

509
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Speaker 8: I didn't get to experience life with. Do I live

510
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Speaker 8: that with him? Or do I go with the man

511
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Speaker 8: that I've been with the sixty plus o years and

512
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Speaker 8: we've raised a family. And I kicked And that's the

513
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Speaker 8: premise of this film. I watched this film about a

514
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Speaker 8: week and a half ago, and I still cannot pick

515
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Speaker 8: what eternity I would go and live in. You can't

516
00:28:17,013 --> 00:28:18,813
Speaker 8: change Eternity, so you get stuck in it. If you

517
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Speaker 8: try and escape, you end up in a black void.

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Speaker 8: So it's just delightful. There's there's lots to ponder. It

519
00:28:24,893 --> 00:28:27,613
Speaker 8: gets very moving. My only complaint with this film, Jack,

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Speaker 8: is they just didn't quite know how to wrap it up.

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Speaker 8: I don't have an issue with how it ended, how

522
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Speaker 8: the story ended. It just dragged too long and I

523
00:28:36,173 --> 00:28:37,573
Speaker 8: was like, no, no, come on, guys, this is this

524
00:28:37,653 --> 00:28:39,733
Speaker 8: is this is beautiful, this is great. This has been

525
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Speaker 8: such fun, but we're dragging this out now and we

526
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Speaker 8: need to wrap it up. So that would be my

527
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Speaker 8: only complaint. But if you like something a bit different

528
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Speaker 8: and great performances by everybody.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, cool. So that's Eternity that's showing in cinemas.

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Speaker 4: Next up, also showing in cinemas, a documentary.

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Speaker 7: This is Twiggy, something that we had not ever seen.

532
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Speaker 4: Before, and her name came like a lightning Twiggy.

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00:29:04,773 --> 00:29:06,613
Speaker 9: Trig Twiggy tweet, Oh.

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Speaker 10: My god, David bote To say, light name.

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Speaker 4: Okay, as the name suggests, this is a documentary about Twiggy.

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Speaker 8: Yes, it is a very warm, celebratory documentary. I learned

537
00:29:23,973 --> 00:29:26,613
Speaker 8: a lot about Twiggy. It doesn't matter how old you are.

538
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Speaker 8: Everybody knows that she was this massive fashion disruptor, this

539
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Speaker 8: model that changed the face of fashion, became world famous

540
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Speaker 8: literally in about three to six weeks. It's a great story.

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Speaker 8: What I didn't know was that she then went on

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Speaker 8: to do musical film and TV shows and all sorts

543
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Speaker 8: of things, and it's had this incredible career and the

544
00:29:48,773 --> 00:29:51,813
Speaker 8: attitude that she brings to it is just delightful. She

545
00:29:51,893 --> 00:29:54,413
Speaker 8: didn't really plan any of it. She wasn't hugely ambitious.

546
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Speaker 8: She just kind of took opportunities, worked really hard, took

547
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Speaker 8: everything in her stride. Nothing was a problem. Like It's

548
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Speaker 8: just it's just really refreshing watching this film, and I

549
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Speaker 8: learned an awful lot about her as well. It's a

550
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Speaker 8: film by Sadie Frost has put this documentary together.

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Speaker 4: Excellent. Okay, cool. So that's Twiggy that's in cinemas. Francisca's

552
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Speaker 4: first film is Eternity that's also showing at the movies

553
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Speaker 4: And we'll put all of the details for those films

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Speaker 4: up at newstalgzb dot co dot NZ. Write a few

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Speaker 4: quick examples for you, Ashley says, people who say expresso

556
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Speaker 4: martini rather than espresso yep.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 4: The thing that really grinds my gears is people who

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Speaker 4: say says as opposed to says yeah. That really gets

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Speaker 4: me going as well, women instead of women, or women

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Speaker 4: instead of women. People who don't understand the difference between

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Speaker 4: women singular and women plural. And ah, this is really

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Speaker 4: one that honestly, Joanes sent about four examples this morning,

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Speaker 4: and I think she's been on point with every single one.

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Speaker 4: Another one, Jack is the word unique. People use this

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Speaker 4: with an adjective adjective preceding it, which is so frustrating.

567
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Speaker 4: For example, she's very unique, she's stunning unique. No unique

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Speaker 4: is unique? You hear it all the time, says Joan.

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Speaker 4: You do too, Gord to tend on news talks, he'd

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Speaker 4: be our cook is the next with her pistachio and

571
00:31:17,213 --> 00:31:20,893
Speaker 4: cranberry biscotti, edible gift idea just in time for the

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Speaker 4: big day.

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning with Jack dam keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 2: the weekend US talks 'b.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget after ten o'clock this morning if you're just

576
00:31:31,373 --> 00:31:34,653
Speaker 4: feeling like a weekend on the couch. No drama, no

577
00:31:34,773 --> 00:31:36,973
Speaker 4: judgment here. This is a judgment free zone, except for

578
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Speaker 4: when it comes to language and usage. After ten, we've

579
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Speaker 4: got our screen time segment where we recommend three shows

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Speaker 4: for watching or streaming at home. We're going to take

581
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Speaker 4: a look at this incredible new deal between Warner Brothers

582
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Speaker 4: and Netflix as well. Right now, though it is twelve

583
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Speaker 4: minutes to ten, our cook, Nikki Wicks, is in Mordina Moderna.

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Speaker 13: My pet peeves are things like more better? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 13: there's no more better.

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00:32:00,213 --> 00:32:02,653
Speaker 4: No, I mean that's okay, more better.

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Speaker 13: The other one is harassment is harassment. It's not harassment.

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Speaker 13: You get that man's name out of there. It's not

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Speaker 13: harrismond you know what the errors harassment?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is that anyway it's the most happiest. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's that. That's not the most happiest anyway.

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Speaker 3: I don't know it's anyway.

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Speaker 4: There are lots of examples. I know this morning. I

595
00:32:24,893 --> 00:32:27,693
Speaker 4: actually think it's a very dangerous, very dangerous game to

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Speaker 4: begin a show. I've only thought about this now, but

597
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Speaker 4: to begin the show with all of this judgment, knowing

598
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Speaker 4: that I've got to get through three hours where every

599
00:32:35,293 --> 00:32:37,373
Speaker 4: single sentence is going to be scrutinized.

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Speaker 13: Hey, well, let's turn a corner with Charistmas joy festivities.

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Speaker 13: So this is the first of I think that our

602
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Speaker 13: Christmas specials, we might do Christmas food for the rest

603
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Speaker 13: of this year. I mean, hey, because we've got to

604
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Speaker 13: got a lot of things to get through. But I

605
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Speaker 13: love this idea of giving edible gifts. You know, they're useful,

606
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Speaker 13: they're practical, they're not buying into that kind of over

607
00:33:00,853 --> 00:33:05,173
Speaker 13: consumerism jack, which I love. And also this is a

608
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Speaker 13: bit of a judgment call. But you've got people who

609
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Speaker 13: you buy serious presents for, like big presents, you spend

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Speaker 13: a bit of money possibly, and then there's lots of

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Speaker 13: people that you want to say thank you to. So

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Speaker 13: for me, it's the guy that mows my lawns all year.

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Speaker 13: I want to give him something. But I probably wouldn't

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Speaker 13: buy a gift for him, but I'll give him an

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Speaker 13: little edible gift, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so people like that.

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Speaker 10: I think it's good.

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Speaker 13: I think it's fine friends, you know, I.

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Speaker 4: Think it's a great idea. Like there's a classic bit

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Speaker 4: of thought as well. You're not just buying them some

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Speaker 4: of you know, no, and you can package.

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Speaker 13: Them up nicely. So I've got a whole lot of ideas.

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Speaker 13: I'm going to run for a recipe for pistachio and

624
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Speaker 13: cranberry piscotti, but think things like preserved lemons, fruit paste,

625
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Speaker 13: Chutney's and sauer kraut, although I would say with a

626
00:33:47,133 --> 00:33:48,933
Speaker 13: lot of those you should have made those last month.

627
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Speaker 13: But anyway, there's plenty of other ideas that you can

628
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Speaker 13: kind of whip up, you know, this weekend, next weekend,

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Speaker 13: right up to Christmas. Shortbread, little flavored oils, scented salts

630
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Speaker 13: and sugars. Meringues are a really good one that you

631
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Speaker 13: can just wrap up. Spice nuts and if you look

632
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Speaker 13: on the z'db site and search on my name, you'll

633
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Speaker 13: find one year I did spice nuts for us.

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Speaker 9: Dooker.

635
00:34:09,613 --> 00:34:13,253
Speaker 13: A gingerbread loaf would be great, and this piscotti. So

636
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Speaker 13: when you get piscotti at a cafe, you also have

637
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Speaker 13: to book in for the dentist because it's so hard

638
00:34:19,293 --> 00:34:24,493
Speaker 13: and terrible. Okay, but homemade piscotti is brittle and crunchy,

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Speaker 13: but not hard and beautiful but still perfect for a

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Speaker 13: dunk and a coffee. So look, oven goes on one eighty.

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Speaker 13: I'm gonna have to rush through this, so I'm just

642
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Speaker 13: gonna kind of calmly go through it. Line a baking

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Speaker 13: tray with baking paper, big large bowl. You're gonna wisk

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Speaker 13: three medium sized eggs, half a cup of olive oil.

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Speaker 13: You could use, five tablespoons of butter if you like,

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Speaker 13: a good half a teaspoon of fresh orange zest or more.

647
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Speaker 13: And you're gonna whisk all of that together, and then

648
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Speaker 13: add in two and a quarter cups of plain flour

649
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Speaker 13: and one teaspoon of baking powder, half a teaspoon of salt,

650
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Speaker 13: and half a cup of sugar in there, so we've

651
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Speaker 13: got all the kind of basic elements. Stir that until

652
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Speaker 13: it's all kind of incorporated, and then I say, fold

653
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Speaker 13: in but an actual fact and half a cover of

654
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Speaker 13: brown sugar. Sorry, I've got half and half there. And

655
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Speaker 13: then we're going to fold through that about half a

656
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Speaker 13: cup of roasted almonds that I've roughly chopped, half a

657
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Speaker 13: cup of shelled pistachios. You get that lovely green in

658
00:35:20,453 --> 00:35:22,613
Speaker 13: there for Christmas, and then quarter it to a half

659
00:35:22,653 --> 00:35:25,533
Speaker 13: a cup of dried cranberriese. And again we're looking for

660
00:35:25,653 --> 00:35:27,773
Speaker 13: Christmas here. So red and green kind of really says

661
00:35:27,853 --> 00:35:31,333
Speaker 13: that mix that through your dough mixture. Divide the dough

662
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Speaker 13: and half jack and then place each half on a

663
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Speaker 13: line on that line tray, and then using sort of

664
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Speaker 13: you know, damp in your hands or your fingers, shape

665
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Speaker 13: it into a nice log shape out four centimeters will

666
00:35:41,573 --> 00:35:45,373
Speaker 13: probably about a thirty centimeter long log, and flatten it

667
00:35:45,453 --> 00:35:48,053
Speaker 13: slightly and bake it for thirty to thirty five minutes

668
00:35:48,293 --> 00:35:48,893
Speaker 13: until it's.

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Speaker 10: Gold and brown.

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Speaker 13: Should be hard on the outside, but have a little

671
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Speaker 13: bit of given the middle. Let it cool down completely,

672
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Speaker 13: and then with a really sharp serrated knife, slice it

673
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Speaker 13: on an angle into about thicknesses of about one point

674
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Speaker 13: five thick. Place those back on the tray and bake

675
00:36:04,653 --> 00:36:07,733
Speaker 13: them off again for another twelve to sixteen minutes. They

676
00:36:07,773 --> 00:36:11,053
Speaker 13: should be firm all the way through. Remember things firm

677
00:36:11,133 --> 00:36:13,933
Speaker 13: up even more when they're cooled, so you're going to

678
00:36:14,013 --> 00:36:17,253
Speaker 13: cool that. And there you've got your beautiful homemade for Scotty.

679
00:36:17,813 --> 00:36:20,813
Speaker 13: Place them, you know once they really called. Place them

680
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Speaker 13: in jars little boxes, Wrap them with a bit of ribbon,

681
00:36:23,693 --> 00:36:25,853
Speaker 13: put a little bit of rosemary on them, maybe some

682
00:36:26,053 --> 00:36:27,733
Speaker 13: bay leaves or something like that for a bit of

683
00:36:27,813 --> 00:36:32,253
Speaker 13: Christmas eve. Look, maybe clip your little pine pine Christmas tree.

684
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Speaker 13: But they're a really beautiful Christmas gift and people really

685
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Speaker 13: really love this sort of thing. And I love it

686
00:36:38,373 --> 00:36:40,813
Speaker 13: because you can make it now and it's still going

687
00:36:40,893 --> 00:36:43,733
Speaker 13: to be okay and a couple of because it's been

688
00:36:43,773 --> 00:36:45,253
Speaker 13: twice faked, it's still going to be okay in a

689
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Speaker 13: couple of weeks for Christmas.

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Speaker 4: That was my question.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely look strawed in an air air type container for

692
00:36:54,173 --> 00:36:56,973
Speaker 13: about a week even or a freeze it freeze fro

693
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Speaker 13: up to three months or more. So you know, any

694
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Speaker 13: is god.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I love you for this, all right, thank you.

696
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Speaker 4: We'll make sure that recipe is up at news Talks,

697
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Speaker 4: said b dot co dot. It does sound like a

698
00:37:08,333 --> 00:37:12,853
Speaker 4: really thoughtful and delicious little Christmas gift idea. Right now

699
00:37:12,973 --> 00:37:14,733
Speaker 4: it is seven to ten on news Talks. He'd be,

700
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Speaker 4: I think I found it. I think I found the

701
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Speaker 4: most egregious example of changing language and usage. I'll share

702
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Speaker 4: that within a couple of minutes, giving.

703
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Speaker 2: You the inside scoop on All you need to Know

704
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Speaker 2: Saturday Morning with Jack dam News Talks.

705
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Speaker 3: That'd be.

706
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Speaker 4: Alice Taylor was a contestant on Master Chef back in

707
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Speaker 4: the day, and in recent months she has had an

708
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Speaker 4: extraordinary period of growth on social media. So Alice, she

709
00:37:44,013 --> 00:37:46,733
Speaker 4: is kind of no frills recipes and she has like

710
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Speaker 4: really honest conversations about food accessibility, and her following on

711
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Speaker 4: social media has gone from a few tens of thousands

712
00:37:53,453 --> 00:37:56,373
Speaker 4: to more or I think almost four hundred thousand people

713
00:37:56,413 --> 00:37:58,813
Speaker 4: now almost four hundred thousand, and she's just a really

714
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Speaker 4: refreshing kind of voice in the New Zealand food community.

715
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Speaker 4: So she is our feature interview after ten o'clock this morning.

716
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Speaker 4: Really looking forward to catching up with her. I'm going

717
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Speaker 4: to to more of your examples after ten as well.

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Speaker 4: I really think we've kicked something off this morning. I

719
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Speaker 4: do Jack. People say me and Jack instead of saying

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Speaker 4: Jack and I. Yep, that's a punish jack. So many

721
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Speaker 4: people use brought when they mean borught, that's true, But

722
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Speaker 4: here's the one I think that gets under my skin

723
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Speaker 4: more than anything else. And this is debatable whether or

724
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Speaker 4: not it's even a usage era to be perfectly honest,

725
00:38:29,773 --> 00:38:32,733
Speaker 4: but every time I hear it, I just honestly, my

726
00:38:32,893 --> 00:38:36,253
Speaker 4: toes curl. I feel the hears on my back go up,

727
00:38:36,333 --> 00:38:43,573
Speaker 4: and not in a good way. Learnings. Learnings, ah ah,

728
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Speaker 4: we didn't take learnings. We took a lesson simple right learnings.

729
00:38:47,533 --> 00:38:50,373
Speaker 4: Totally unnecessary. Anyway, I'll get to more of your examples

730
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Speaker 4: after the news. It is almost ten o'clock at Saturday morning.

731
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Speaker 4: I'm Jack Tayman. There's his news talk z BE.

732
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Speaker 2: It's cracking way to start his Saturday Saturday morning.

733
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Speaker 3: With Jack Day News Talk zb.

734
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Speaker 4: JODA, New Zealand with Jack Taime on Newsthooks. He'd be

735
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Speaker 4: through to midday today. Today's guest has changed the way

736
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Speaker 4: that thousands of Kiwis and honestly hundreds of thousands of

737
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Speaker 4: people all over the world are thinking about cooking at home.

738
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Speaker 4: You might know Alice Taylor from her days as a

739
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Speaker 4: contestant on Masterschef, or you may know her from the

740
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Speaker 4: social media phenomenon the empire that is Alice Taylor. Eats Alice.

741
00:39:51,533 --> 00:39:54,773
Speaker 4: She has no frills, recipes and has honest conversations around

742
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Speaker 4: food accessibility. And they have seen her following online skyrocket

743
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Speaker 4: to half a million people across her different social media channels.

744
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Speaker 4: She is a refreshing new voice in New Zealand's food community.

745
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Speaker 4: She's with us live in studio this morning. Killed a

746
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Speaker 4: good morning, Good morning. It is so good to see

747
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Speaker 4: you and thank you for coming in in person. Oh

748
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Speaker 4: thank you. So For people who don't know what Alice

749
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Speaker 4: Taylor eat actually is, can you give us the kind

750
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Speaker 4: of ethos.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's pretty straightforward. We post cheap and realistic recipes.

752
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Speaker 14: We want to help people save money cooking your home,

753
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Speaker 14: give them tips and tricks, and ultimately also just make

754
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Speaker 14: them feel proud about what they're putting on the table,

755
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Speaker 14: because I think a lot of social media is about unrealistic.

756
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Speaker 14: So we also want to be a platform where people can,

757
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Speaker 14: you know, watch have a bit of fun, cook some

758
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Speaker 14: good food, and feel good about themselves.

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Speaker 4: That is such a good point because so much of

760
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Speaker 4: social media is kind of aspirationally fake, right, Yeah, people

761
00:40:49,413 --> 00:40:52,213
Speaker 4: pretending to live these kind of perfect lives. But it's

762
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Speaker 4: almost like you have seen a bit of a slot,

763
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Speaker 4: not necessarily in the market, but you're connecting to, you know,

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Speaker 4: an issue that a lot of people can wrate to.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely, I think I always wanted to post on social media,

767
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Speaker 14: and even I was on Master Chef, you know, several

768
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Speaker 14: years ago, and I tried a bit to post, but

769
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Speaker 14: I just couldn't bring myself to do it because I

770
00:41:11,173 --> 00:41:13,693
Speaker 14: would look at all these other content creators and they'd

771
00:41:13,693 --> 00:41:17,213
Speaker 14: have perfect kitchens, crazy budgets, and I'd just think, oh no,

772
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Speaker 14: I can't do it.

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00:41:18,253 --> 00:41:18,453
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: But then around a year ago I realized, actually, I

775
00:41:21,853 --> 00:41:25,173
Speaker 14: would love to see something like that, and so I

776
00:41:25,293 --> 00:41:28,213
Speaker 14: posted a video and you know, immediately that kind of

777
00:41:28,293 --> 00:41:30,533
Speaker 14: took off and I could feel that people wanted to

778
00:41:30,573 --> 00:41:32,853
Speaker 14: see it too. So I think I did sort of

779
00:41:32,893 --> 00:41:34,853
Speaker 14: fit a gap in the market in a weird way.

780
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Speaker 14: But it was also just kind of by necessity. If

781
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Speaker 14: I was going to post, that was what I was

782
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Speaker 14: going to post because of my situation.

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Speaker 4: It is authentic. That's the thing that actually has cut through.

784
00:41:44,093 --> 00:41:46,133
Speaker 4: People go, oh my gosh, Alice isn't actually pretending to

785
00:41:46,173 --> 00:41:48,773
Speaker 4: be anything. She isn't here, and she can because it's

786
00:41:48,773 --> 00:41:50,813
Speaker 4: stuff that you'd be interested in. People go, actually, that's

787
00:41:50,813 --> 00:41:51,933
Speaker 4: stuff I'm interested in as well.

788
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Speaker 14: Exactly exactly. And I think there's just a need for

789
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Speaker 14: cheap and realistic recipes at the moment, especially, so I

790
00:41:58,613 --> 00:42:00,653
Speaker 14: think that people are finding the page really useful. I

791
00:42:00,693 --> 00:42:01,493
Speaker 14: hope they are at least.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:42:01,933 --> 00:42:05,613
Speaker 4: True, if the economy was absolutely gunning it right then

794
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Speaker 4: then it might be it might be a different story.

795
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Speaker 4: What was the recipe. That took off, well, the first video.

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Speaker 14: The first video, it took off like a little bit.

797
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Speaker 14: But I mean for someone with seven thousand followers, you know,

798
00:42:15,733 --> 00:42:18,093
Speaker 14: to get one hundred comments on this video of people

799
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Speaker 14: saying keep going, that was so exciting for me, and

800
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Speaker 14: I think it got a couple of hundred thousand views.

801
00:42:23,413 --> 00:42:26,333
Speaker 14: That was just literally a leftover chicken roast chicken. It

802
00:42:26,453 --> 00:42:29,133
Speaker 14: was like half eat and it looked terrible. I made

803
00:42:29,173 --> 00:42:32,053
Speaker 14: some rice, I talked about wanting to post and my

804
00:42:32,173 --> 00:42:35,253
Speaker 14: reasons for not posting, and people just loved it, and

805
00:42:35,373 --> 00:42:37,773
Speaker 14: so that really, I'm so glad I posted that video.

806
00:42:37,893 --> 00:42:40,933
Speaker 14: It's the most important one I posted because I identified

807
00:42:40,973 --> 00:42:43,413
Speaker 14: that actually people wanted to see that content and I

808
00:42:43,533 --> 00:42:43,973
Speaker 14: kept going.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so talk to us a bit more about your

810
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Speaker 4: food journey. How did you get into cooking?

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Speaker 14: Well, I mean I've always been obsessed with cooking. I've

812
00:42:51,133 --> 00:42:54,933
Speaker 14: been surrounded by really great cooks in my life, so yeah,

813
00:42:54,973 --> 00:42:57,173
Speaker 14: from a very young age, I was obsessed with cookbooks.

814
00:42:57,173 --> 00:42:59,173
Speaker 14: I remember reading them like as a kid instead of

815
00:42:59,373 --> 00:43:00,973
Speaker 14: picture books and stuff, which is a bit.

816
00:43:00,933 --> 00:43:01,613
Speaker 7: Weird I think.

817
00:43:02,293 --> 00:43:05,013
Speaker 14: And then when I was fifteen, I wrote my first

818
00:43:05,093 --> 00:43:08,533
Speaker 14: cookbook manuscript, was always my dream to do that, and

819
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Speaker 14: sort of kept cooking, got a couple of jobs, and

820
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Speaker 14: kept cooking throughout university when I was studying my masters,

821
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Speaker 14: and then eventually I had a food Instagram started there

822
00:43:19,493 --> 00:43:22,773
Speaker 14: I posted cakes and then Master Chef came back for

823
00:43:22,813 --> 00:43:26,653
Speaker 14: another season, first time in several years, and my dad

824
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Speaker 14: had texted me that there was auditions, so I got

825
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Speaker 14: on that and I came third, and then out of

826
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Speaker 14: that I became a chef, worked in some really big

827
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Speaker 14: kitchens like Camsfield, and then quit cheffing because I just

828
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Speaker 14: you know, wasn't for me, and try to sort of

829
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Speaker 14: find a way that I could incorporate food as well

830
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Speaker 14: as politics into my career. And this is now where

831
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Speaker 14: I'm at. So it's been a bit of a convoluted career,

832
00:43:49,173 --> 00:43:49,773
Speaker 14: but a cool one.

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Speaker 4: No, that's so it's interesting that you that you tried

834
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Speaker 4: the chefing thing and that wasn't quite for you. Do

835
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Speaker 4: you see yourself as being like a cook as opposed

836
00:43:57,453 --> 00:43:59,413
Speaker 4: to a chief is a distinction.

837
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Speaker 14: It's hard to say. I mean, I think I think

838
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Speaker 14: I'll always be a chef. You know, I trained as

839
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Speaker 14: a chef and I've worked in intense, serious kitchens and

840
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Speaker 14: the recipes that we developed, my partner and I together,

841
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Speaker 14: I don't think they would be anywhere near as good

842
00:44:13,413 --> 00:44:16,653
Speaker 14: if we didn't have that real proper training behind us. Yeah, right,

843
00:44:16,813 --> 00:44:19,253
Speaker 14: So I definitely think the chefing influences what I do.

844
00:44:19,493 --> 00:44:22,653
Speaker 14: I don't do chefing day to day, but it's always

845
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Speaker 14: a part of it. And I guess now I'm more

846
00:44:25,413 --> 00:44:28,733
Speaker 14: of a content creator chef, right, I'm not sure, but.

847
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, like you said, well, it might

848
00:44:33,453 --> 00:44:36,213
Speaker 4: seem convoluted, but actually it's kind of a it's a

849
00:44:36,573 --> 00:44:41,413
Speaker 4: like modern digital information story, right that everyone relates to.

850
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Speaker 4: And you have had ridiculous success with this message and

851
00:44:45,453 --> 00:44:47,333
Speaker 4: working out that that one video had cut through that

852
00:44:47,413 --> 00:44:50,293
Speaker 4: has led to you know, half a million followers on

853
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Speaker 4: social media, So talk to us about that growth. Did

854
00:44:52,813 --> 00:44:53,453
Speaker 4: you see it coming?

855
00:44:55,173 --> 00:44:58,453
Speaker 14: I don't know if I necessarily saw it coming, but

856
00:44:58,573 --> 00:45:01,093
Speaker 14: I was very determined to make it work. I just

857
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Speaker 14: I've always wanted to write recipes, write cookbooks, and sort

858
00:45:05,573 --> 00:45:08,813
Speaker 14: of we touch on a bit before the industry had changed,

859
00:45:08,853 --> 00:45:12,653
Speaker 14: the platforms had changed, and I was really, really really

860
00:45:12,733 --> 00:45:15,413
Speaker 14: determined to make it work. So I wasn't going to

861
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Speaker 14: stop until I had some success. Did I imagine that

862
00:45:19,133 --> 00:45:22,013
Speaker 14: it would grow to this size and this short amount

863
00:45:22,053 --> 00:45:22,413
Speaker 14: of time.

864
00:45:23,213 --> 00:45:23,893
Speaker 13: No, I did not.

865
00:45:24,213 --> 00:45:27,573
Speaker 14: I'm pretty pretty shocked by it. But I'm so excited

866
00:45:27,613 --> 00:45:29,373
Speaker 14: about it because it really has been a dream of

867
00:45:29,413 --> 00:45:30,853
Speaker 14: mine for yet ten years.

868
00:45:31,293 --> 00:45:33,613
Speaker 4: And are they followers in New Zealand or are they

869
00:45:33,653 --> 00:45:35,013
Speaker 4: followers elsewhere?

870
00:45:35,373 --> 00:45:35,533
Speaker 1: Yeah?

871
00:45:35,573 --> 00:45:38,493
Speaker 14: Well, I mean my biggest audience is New Zealand, and

872
00:45:38,573 --> 00:45:41,973
Speaker 14: I think, especially maybe six months ago, I had a big, big,

873
00:45:42,093 --> 00:45:45,733
Speaker 14: big majority Kiwi audience. Now that it's grown so much,

874
00:45:45,813 --> 00:45:47,933
Speaker 14: I'm getting a lot of American followers, a lot of

875
00:45:47,973 --> 00:45:52,973
Speaker 14: Australian followers, followers from Europe as well, so it's definitely expanding,

876
00:45:53,133 --> 00:45:56,333
Speaker 14: which is so exciting. And people send me their recipes

877
00:45:56,373 --> 00:46:01,173
Speaker 14: that they've made from Iceland and the craziest places. So

878
00:46:01,293 --> 00:46:03,293
Speaker 14: it's pretty cool that you are kind of a part

879
00:46:03,373 --> 00:46:06,613
Speaker 14: of people's kitchens and homes in an exciting way from

880
00:46:07,253 --> 00:46:07,773
Speaker 14: around the world.

881
00:46:07,893 --> 00:46:10,693
Speaker 4: But I suppose affordable, delicious food is something that everyone

882
00:46:10,773 --> 00:46:12,093
Speaker 4: everywhere can relate to.

883
00:46:12,213 --> 00:46:16,813
Speaker 14: Right, Yeah, I think it's it's super important at the moment, especially,

884
00:46:16,893 --> 00:46:19,733
Speaker 14: but I still think it's kind of timeless in some respects.

885
00:46:19,773 --> 00:46:23,493
Speaker 14: We all want to cook affordably in season, we all

886
00:46:23,613 --> 00:46:25,933
Speaker 14: need to cook, So I think that it's sort of

887
00:46:25,973 --> 00:46:26,853
Speaker 14: a universal thing.

888
00:46:27,213 --> 00:46:31,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is the life for someone who is creating

889
00:46:31,893 --> 00:46:35,213
Speaker 4: content for that many people and who has experienced that

890
00:46:35,333 --> 00:46:37,973
Speaker 4: kind of explosion and follow us? Like, what do you

891
00:46:38,013 --> 00:46:39,413
Speaker 4: have to do? How often do you have to post?

892
00:46:40,053 --> 00:46:43,053
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty exciting and intense, and every

893
00:46:43,133 --> 00:46:45,813
Speaker 14: day kind of looks different. I used to do this

894
00:46:46,093 --> 00:46:49,093
Speaker 14: and have a full time job, which was very intense.

895
00:46:49,733 --> 00:46:52,533
Speaker 14: So now I've fortunately been able to just focus on this.

896
00:46:52,613 --> 00:46:54,733
Speaker 14: This is my full time job, and my partner and

897
00:46:54,773 --> 00:46:58,813
Speaker 14: I work together. So we'll film probably four days out

898
00:46:58,853 --> 00:47:02,493
Speaker 14: of the week, sometimes five. We'll do the ideation, we'll

899
00:47:02,533 --> 00:47:06,013
Speaker 14: create the recipes, will recipe, test, film, then we try

900
00:47:06,053 --> 00:47:09,693
Speaker 14: to go immediately into editing. We own like everything that

901
00:47:09,773 --> 00:47:11,853
Speaker 14: we do. We don't have an agent or a publisher

902
00:47:11,933 --> 00:47:14,213
Speaker 14: for our book or anything, so there's also a lot

903
00:47:14,253 --> 00:47:17,613
Speaker 14: of sort of behind the scenes stuff that's also you know,

904
00:47:17,733 --> 00:47:21,173
Speaker 14: business related. I had to register a company, which was

905
00:47:21,493 --> 00:47:25,533
Speaker 14: something else. So yeah, but it's been really exciting because

906
00:47:25,533 --> 00:47:28,253
Speaker 14: I've learned as I've gone, and I've got, you know,

907
00:47:28,453 --> 00:47:32,213
Speaker 14: amazing parents that are also very intelligent, and they've been

908
00:47:32,293 --> 00:47:33,053
Speaker 14: so helpful.

909
00:47:33,173 --> 00:47:35,133
Speaker 4: So yeah, in guiding you. But it is a full

910
00:47:35,173 --> 00:47:37,173
Speaker 4: time job. I think this is something that is percpic

911
00:47:37,253 --> 00:47:42,133
Speaker 4: underappreciated by people sometimes. In order to be servicing all

912
00:47:42,253 --> 00:47:44,933
Speaker 4: of those followers and giving them fresh ideas and fresh

913
00:47:45,093 --> 00:47:47,293
Speaker 4: content all the time, you're really working hard.

914
00:47:47,453 --> 00:47:50,013
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, And I think, especially for me, something I'm

915
00:47:50,053 --> 00:47:52,653
Speaker 14: really adamant on is trying to respond to as many

916
00:47:52,733 --> 00:47:55,653
Speaker 14: people as possible. So we have sections in the day

917
00:47:55,693 --> 00:47:57,933
Speaker 14: where I'll just be trying to reply to as many people,

918
00:47:58,333 --> 00:48:00,813
Speaker 14: and I think that's also been part of the success

919
00:48:00,853 --> 00:48:03,013
Speaker 14: that I've had, especially because I get a lot of

920
00:48:03,093 --> 00:48:05,253
Speaker 14: my ideas from the people that follow me, and I

921
00:48:05,293 --> 00:48:07,493
Speaker 14: can understand how they're fe what they want, what they

922
00:48:07,573 --> 00:48:11,613
Speaker 14: don't want. So also, I guess the customer service side

923
00:48:11,653 --> 00:48:13,893
Speaker 14: of it does take a lot of time, the bigger

924
00:48:13,893 --> 00:48:16,493
Speaker 14: and bigger it gets, but it's a very rewarding job.

925
00:48:17,013 --> 00:48:18,253
Speaker 14: It's just a different one.

926
00:48:18,213 --> 00:48:20,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, What do people ask you, like? How do

927
00:48:20,573 --> 00:48:21,293
Speaker 4: they inspire you?

928
00:48:21,733 --> 00:48:21,893
Speaker 3: Well?

929
00:48:21,933 --> 00:48:25,373
Speaker 14: I mean, I get so much wonderful feedback and I

930
00:48:25,453 --> 00:48:29,293
Speaker 14: probably receive two hundred and three hundred photos of people's

931
00:48:29,333 --> 00:48:32,333
Speaker 14: cooking that they've done every day. I receive a lot

932
00:48:32,373 --> 00:48:36,853
Speaker 14: of requests for different dishes, and yeah, that's been so

933
00:48:36,973 --> 00:48:40,173
Speaker 14: much fun, and even just seeing what recipes take off,

934
00:48:40,293 --> 00:48:43,853
Speaker 14: what recipes are being recreated more than others. What are

935
00:48:43,853 --> 00:48:46,213
Speaker 14: people looking for at this time of the year. I'm

936
00:48:46,293 --> 00:48:50,973
Speaker 14: constantly trying to identify that and plan accordingly. So there's

937
00:48:50,973 --> 00:48:52,333
Speaker 14: a lot of strategy involved, but.

938
00:48:52,693 --> 00:48:55,053
Speaker 4: We love it. It's such a great job. So obviously

939
00:48:55,133 --> 00:48:57,413
Speaker 4: you take inspiration for all sorts of different dishes in

940
00:48:57,453 --> 00:49:02,093
Speaker 4: different cuisines. Yes, But are there some foundational principles that

941
00:49:02,213 --> 00:49:05,373
Speaker 4: you think most of your recipes rely on when it

942
00:49:05,493 --> 00:49:07,373
Speaker 4: comes to the just affordable food?

943
00:49:07,693 --> 00:49:10,333
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I guess the construction of a recipe,

944
00:49:10,573 --> 00:49:13,293
Speaker 14: we would always consider a couple of things. The first

945
00:49:13,413 --> 00:49:15,693
Speaker 14: is the cost of the ingredients. We try to keep

946
00:49:15,733 --> 00:49:19,053
Speaker 14: that as low as possible, a few dollars at most

947
00:49:19,093 --> 00:49:23,013
Speaker 14: per person for each portion. And then we also try

948
00:49:23,053 --> 00:49:25,853
Speaker 14: to consider, because now we have an international audience, how

949
00:49:25,933 --> 00:49:29,933
Speaker 14: do we create opportunity to talk about adjusting for the seasons,

950
00:49:30,213 --> 00:49:33,893
Speaker 14: for dietary requirements, etc. And then we also try to

951
00:49:34,013 --> 00:49:37,613
Speaker 14: consider time because time is money, and I think a

952
00:49:37,733 --> 00:49:40,133
Speaker 14: lot of I guess I think one of the things

953
00:49:40,133 --> 00:49:42,093
Speaker 14: that we've done well is talk about cooking from scratch

954
00:49:42,173 --> 00:49:45,333
Speaker 14: but also with as little time as possible. So those

955
00:49:45,373 --> 00:49:47,133
Speaker 14: are the sort of the three things that we consider,

956
00:49:47,773 --> 00:49:50,933
Speaker 14: the international audience, the budget, and time, and then we'll

957
00:49:50,973 --> 00:49:54,133
Speaker 14: go into constructing a recipe. We've tried our best to

958
00:49:54,253 --> 00:49:57,813
Speaker 14: kind of provide as many staple recipes, foundational recipes, and

959
00:49:57,933 --> 00:50:00,493
Speaker 14: even if you look at our ebook, I would love

960
00:50:00,573 --> 00:50:02,613
Speaker 14: to count the number of ingredients, because I think it

961
00:50:02,653 --> 00:50:05,533
Speaker 14: would be very few. We use the same ingredients across

962
00:50:05,653 --> 00:50:08,453
Speaker 14: so many things, so I actually don't think that there's

963
00:50:08,493 --> 00:50:11,573
Speaker 14: many ingredients involved at all. And that's also a consideration

964
00:50:11,733 --> 00:50:12,213
Speaker 14: we've taken.

965
00:50:12,533 --> 00:50:14,733
Speaker 4: Can I be really pigheaded and off of you my

966
00:50:15,373 --> 00:50:18,373
Speaker 4: my tip? You seek my I have one little tip

967
00:50:18,413 --> 00:50:20,893
Speaker 4: in the kitchen, and that is that everyone should always

968
00:50:20,933 --> 00:50:24,653
Speaker 4: have a little bit of turizo in because a tiny

969
00:50:24,693 --> 00:50:28,573
Speaker 4: amount of turito will elevate almost any dish exactly. And

970
00:50:28,693 --> 00:50:30,293
Speaker 4: you can, honestly, you can go and you can have

971
00:50:30,373 --> 00:50:33,453
Speaker 4: a can of lean tools, two cloves of garlic, half

972
00:50:33,493 --> 00:50:35,413
Speaker 4: an onion, and you put a little bit of churiza

973
00:50:35,413 --> 00:50:38,653
Speaker 4: and they're just a tiny and it's just so much nicer.

974
00:50:38,853 --> 00:50:39,973
Speaker 14: That's a brilliant tip.

975
00:50:40,053 --> 00:50:40,213
Speaker 3: There.

976
00:50:40,213 --> 00:50:42,653
Speaker 4: You go, fel free to use that. I'm not sure

977
00:50:42,653 --> 00:50:44,893
Speaker 4: it's necessarily going to keep all of your followers happy.

978
00:50:46,093 --> 00:50:48,853
Speaker 4: You mentioned the PDF, and this is I mean, this

979
00:50:48,973 --> 00:50:51,733
Speaker 4: in itself is a great idea. So instead of publishing

980
00:50:51,853 --> 00:50:55,653
Speaker 4: a big, really flashy, expensive cockbook, you've got this new PDF,

981
00:50:56,213 --> 00:50:58,413
Speaker 4: which is a way that people can share a new

982
00:50:58,413 --> 00:51:00,053
Speaker 4: different dishes and recipes tell us about it.

983
00:51:00,293 --> 00:51:02,893
Speaker 14: Yeah, so we wanted to create a place for all

984
00:51:02,933 --> 00:51:05,693
Speaker 14: of the recipes to be all together because on Instagram

985
00:51:05,733 --> 00:51:08,693
Speaker 14: you're scrolling through it's a little bit complicated, right, And

986
00:51:09,293 --> 00:51:11,733
Speaker 14: we really wanted to make an ebook, but we wanted

987
00:51:11,853 --> 00:51:14,493
Speaker 14: to own it, especially because we wanted to control the price.

988
00:51:14,853 --> 00:51:17,733
Speaker 14: We wanted to keep it low, and so Orian and

989
00:51:17,813 --> 00:51:20,533
Speaker 14: I wrote it together. It's an ebook collection of some

990
00:51:20,693 --> 00:51:23,373
Speaker 14: of our best recipes, most popular ones, and we're only

991
00:51:23,413 --> 00:51:26,093
Speaker 14: selling it for twelve dollars twelve New Zealand dollars and

992
00:51:26,213 --> 00:51:28,013
Speaker 14: you can get it from wherever you are in the world,

993
00:51:28,173 --> 00:51:30,733
Speaker 14: download it, and of course if you want to, you

994
00:51:30,773 --> 00:51:35,093
Speaker 14: can gift it or print it off and gift a copy. So, yeah,

995
00:51:35,173 --> 00:51:37,573
Speaker 14: we loved writing that book. It was just such a

996
00:51:37,773 --> 00:51:39,133
Speaker 14: It felt like the right thing to do in the

997
00:51:39,213 --> 00:51:42,213
Speaker 14: right time, and people have just been loving it. So

998
00:51:42,413 --> 00:51:44,293
Speaker 14: we're so thrilled with how well it's gone.

999
00:51:44,493 --> 00:51:47,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's such a good idea, and like you say,

1000
00:51:47,533 --> 00:51:50,333
Speaker 4: you know, it's a great way for people to if

1001
00:51:50,333 --> 00:51:52,693
Speaker 4: they're looking for a little thoughtful gift at Christmas something

1002
00:51:52,733 --> 00:51:54,533
Speaker 4: like that. Exactly, it can be a little option. You

1003
00:51:54,613 --> 00:51:58,933
Speaker 4: had that, Nigella, you call that your cake boocket. Yeah,

1004
00:51:59,093 --> 00:52:02,333
Speaker 4: I was insane. Yes, tell us the story.

1005
00:52:02,613 --> 00:52:04,813
Speaker 14: Yeah, so this was my other book that I came

1006
00:52:04,893 --> 00:52:08,653
Speaker 14: out with a few years ago. Yeah, exactly. And she

1007
00:52:09,573 --> 00:52:13,133
Speaker 14: managed to get a copy through a mutual friend who's

1008
00:52:13,213 --> 00:52:16,533
Speaker 14: just a wonderful human. And I didn't really expect anything

1009
00:52:16,573 --> 00:52:18,533
Speaker 14: of it. I just knew that they were connected, and

1010
00:52:19,173 --> 00:52:20,893
Speaker 14: I gave it to him and said, please, just if

1011
00:52:20,933 --> 00:52:25,493
Speaker 14: you see her, please, she's my idol. And I woke

1012
00:52:25,573 --> 00:52:28,613
Speaker 14: up one day and I saw Nigella Lawson had tagged

1013
00:52:28,693 --> 00:52:31,373
Speaker 14: me in a post. I could not believe it. It

1014
00:52:31,413 --> 00:52:36,213
Speaker 14: still doesn't feel real. And it was just so wonderful.

1015
00:52:36,293 --> 00:52:39,813
Speaker 14: It was such a cool experience because I've cooked hundreds

1016
00:52:39,853 --> 00:52:43,053
Speaker 14: of her recipes and I love her ethos around food.

1017
00:52:43,133 --> 00:52:48,133
Speaker 14: She's unapologetic, she cooks really beautiful, simple recipes and makes

1018
00:52:48,173 --> 00:52:49,853
Speaker 14: people wake. I think she gives a lot of people

1019
00:52:49,893 --> 00:52:53,173
Speaker 14: confidence to have fun as well in the kitchen. So

1020
00:52:53,293 --> 00:52:54,293
Speaker 14: it was such a compliment.

1021
00:52:54,533 --> 00:52:59,453
Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic. Hey, congratulations allus. I yeah, it's amazing what

1022
00:52:59,573 --> 00:53:01,493
Speaker 4: you have managed to achieve. And I just know that

1023
00:53:01,693 --> 00:53:05,213
Speaker 4: so many people really really appreciate all of the advice

1024
00:53:05,293 --> 00:53:07,013
Speaker 4: and recipes that you're sharing. So keep it up.

1025
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Speaker 6: Thank you.

1026
00:53:07,613 --> 00:53:09,893
Speaker 4: Yeah, good luck with it taking over the world, my goodness.

1027
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Speaker 4: You can find Alice on social media of course, at

1028
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Speaker 4: Alice Taylor Eats, or you can get her new ebook

1029
00:53:15,733 --> 00:53:18,653
Speaker 4: at Alice Taylor eats dot com. We'll make sure that

1030
00:53:18,773 --> 00:53:21,213
Speaker 4: link is up on the news talk z'b website as well.

1031
00:53:21,533 --> 00:53:23,933
Speaker 4: Before eleven o'clock, we're in the garden. I'm talking less

1032
00:53:23,933 --> 00:53:27,013
Speaker 4: appealing things, I'm afraid, but honestly, this is news you

1033
00:53:27,053 --> 00:53:29,373
Speaker 4: can use. Rhode has his advice on getting rid of

1034
00:53:29,533 --> 00:53:34,493
Speaker 4: mealybugs at your place. Plus Master Somelier has his wine

1035
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Speaker 4: pick of the week. Right now, it's twenty one past tenn.

1036
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Speaker 2: On Your Weekend Off the Right Way Saturday Morning with

1037
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Speaker 2: Jack dam NEWSTALGSB.

1038
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Speaker 4: Twenty four past ten on Newstalks ZEDB, which means it

1039
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Speaker 4: is screen time time on Saturday morning. Carl Pushman is

1040
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Speaker 4: here with three shows to recommend for watching or streaming

1041
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Speaker 4: at home. This morning, Killer Carl, Good morning Jack. We're

1042
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Speaker 4: going to begin this morning with a show on Netflix

1043
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Speaker 4: tell Us about Sean Coombs The Reckoning.

1044
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Speaker 11: Now, this is the long awaited, shocking and quite damning

1045
00:54:06,093 --> 00:54:10,653
Speaker 11: for documentary series on disgraced rapper Puff Daddy Sean Diddy

1046
00:54:11,573 --> 00:54:13,813
Speaker 11: aka lots of various hip hop names, but we all

1047
00:54:13,853 --> 00:54:15,933
Speaker 11: know how I'm talking about. His lawyers had fought to

1048
00:54:15,973 --> 00:54:19,093
Speaker 11: get this taken down but were unsuccessful, and once you

1049
00:54:19,133 --> 00:54:21,573
Speaker 11: start watching it, you'll see why they didn't want people

1050
00:54:21,653 --> 00:54:24,453
Speaker 11: to watch this thing. It was produced by longtime rival

1051
00:54:24,573 --> 00:54:27,813
Speaker 11: fifty cent, and there was speculation that would be an

1052
00:54:27,933 --> 00:54:31,573
Speaker 11: over the top, tabloid style hit job, but it's not. Instead,

1053
00:54:31,613 --> 00:54:35,773
Speaker 11: it's a deeply researched, highly credible, and quite uncompromising expose

1054
00:54:36,613 --> 00:54:39,893
Speaker 11: on this disgraced rapper. Charts his rise to fame, how

1055
00:54:39,933 --> 00:54:43,053
Speaker 11: he built his empire, and also the criminal, violent ways

1056
00:54:43,253 --> 00:54:45,453
Speaker 11: that he kept it, and of course along with that

1057
00:54:45,693 --> 00:54:49,733
Speaker 11: there is all the horrific sexual abuse allegations and that

1058
00:54:49,893 --> 00:54:52,413
Speaker 11: kind of thing that he was also involved in. It

1059
00:54:52,493 --> 00:54:54,573
Speaker 11: starts as his childhood and goes right through to the

1060
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Speaker 11: present day, where he's currently serving fifty months in a

1061
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Speaker 11: federal prison, and he's also got a whole range of

1062
00:55:04,333 --> 00:55:06,853
Speaker 11: civil cases waiting for him when that had with all

1063
00:55:06,893 --> 00:55:10,693
Speaker 11: these allegations, it's damning and horrific what that guy's been

1064
00:55:10,773 --> 00:55:14,933
Speaker 11: up to. The documentary makers they interviewed an impressive number

1065
00:55:14,973 --> 00:55:17,693
Speaker 11: of people from his life, you know, associates, former friends,

1066
00:55:17,853 --> 00:55:22,533
Speaker 11: former enemies, journalists, business partners, gang members, entourage members, just

1067
00:55:22,693 --> 00:55:24,533
Speaker 11: anyone who's had anything to do with this guy has

1068
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Speaker 11: been spoken to. And many of these people have been

1069
00:55:27,093 --> 00:55:29,173
Speaker 11: too scared to speak out before because he had such

1070
00:55:29,333 --> 00:55:31,533
Speaker 11: power in the industry. You know, we often think of

1071
00:55:31,533 --> 00:55:33,773
Speaker 11: puff Daddy as the joke rapper from the nineties, but

1072
00:55:33,893 --> 00:55:38,213
Speaker 11: he was a serious, unpleasant person in a lot of ways,

1073
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Speaker 11: and people were genuinely scared of this guy. The documentary

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Speaker 11: is filled with fascinating archival footage, loads of it previously unseen.

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Speaker 11: But what's also remarkable is that it's got daily video

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00:55:52,533 --> 00:55:56,093
Speaker 11: footage from the week before he went to stand trial,

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00:55:56,333 --> 00:55:58,213
Speaker 11: because he was trying to make a documentary that would

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Speaker 11: show his innocence and sway the court of public opinion

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Speaker 11: over to him, and this is in the documentary. So

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00:56:04,813 --> 00:56:08,733
Speaker 11: it's just mind blowing. It's a hard hitting documentary. It's

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00:56:08,733 --> 00:56:11,173
Speaker 11: a powerful watch. But by no means is it an

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00:56:11,173 --> 00:56:13,933
Speaker 11: easy watch. But I think it's definitely worth everyone's time.

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Speaker 4: Sounds very interesting. Okay, that's Sean Combs The Reckoning. It's

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00:56:17,613 --> 00:56:20,653
Speaker 4: on Netflix, on TV and Z plus twenty five years

1085
00:56:20,693 --> 00:56:22,253
Speaker 4: of Location, Location Location.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, let's pull the handbrake up and go from not

1087
00:56:24,413 --> 00:56:27,293
Speaker 11: an easy watch to a totally breezy watch, you know.

1088
00:56:27,413 --> 00:56:29,973
Speaker 11: Let's go back two thousand. The PlayStation two had just

1089
00:56:30,053 --> 00:56:33,013
Speaker 11: come out. Britney Spears had just released Upside Did It Again,

1090
00:56:33,013 --> 00:56:35,093
Speaker 11: which had gone to number one in our charts. In

1091
00:56:35,133 --> 00:56:37,933
Speaker 11: a reality show called The Great House Hunt about two

1092
00:56:37,973 --> 00:56:40,973
Speaker 11: property finders helping people by their dream home was about

1093
00:56:40,973 --> 00:56:43,173
Speaker 11: to debut. Before it hit the screens, there was a

1094
00:56:43,253 --> 00:56:46,413
Speaker 11: quick name change to Location Location Location because one of

1095
00:56:46,453 --> 00:56:49,773
Speaker 11: the hosts frequently stumbled saying the Great House Hunt as

1096
00:56:49,853 --> 00:56:51,653
Speaker 11: I almost am now, and you can see how that

1097
00:56:51,693 --> 00:56:55,013
Speaker 11: could have quite an unfortunate rhyming skin going on there.

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Speaker 11: The rest, as they say, is history. It's been going

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00:56:57,613 --> 00:57:01,653
Speaker 11: for twenty five years. Popularity has not declined whatsoever. It's

1100
00:57:01,693 --> 00:57:05,173
Speaker 11: just such an easy to watch show and frequently fascinating

1101
00:57:05,213 --> 00:57:08,413
Speaker 11: watching the various couples they have on their or person

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00:57:08,653 --> 00:57:11,453
Speaker 11: whoever they've got trying to buy their dream home. They

1103
00:57:11,533 --> 00:57:15,133
Speaker 11: take into three different properties try and convince them which

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00:57:15,173 --> 00:57:19,893
Speaker 11: one is great, And it's just fascinating watching people justify

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00:57:19,973 --> 00:57:22,533
Speaker 11: properties or dismissed properties based on not much more than

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00:57:22,573 --> 00:57:25,853
Speaker 11: whims or vibes, which you know, a show house could

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00:57:25,893 --> 00:57:27,813
Speaker 11: tick all the boxes, but they're just not feeling it,

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00:57:27,853 --> 00:57:32,253
Speaker 11: which is what house hunting is like. And yeah, it's

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00:57:32,293 --> 00:57:33,613
Speaker 11: a show that I never really went out of my

1110
00:57:33,653 --> 00:57:35,533
Speaker 11: way to watch over its twenty five years, but I've

1111
00:57:35,533 --> 00:57:37,053
Speaker 11: watched a lot of it because if it was on,

1112
00:57:37,933 --> 00:57:39,373
Speaker 11: it was just so easy to watch.

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00:57:39,413 --> 00:57:42,253
Speaker 4: Itead get sucked into the jury exactly, exactly.

1114
00:57:42,533 --> 00:57:44,893
Speaker 11: Yeah, but not so secret source of the show was

1115
00:57:44,933 --> 00:57:48,213
Speaker 11: the chemistry between the two hosts, Kirsty and Phil, and

1116
00:57:48,333 --> 00:57:50,133
Speaker 11: you know that's tried to be replicated. We've got a

1117
00:57:50,173 --> 00:57:51,733
Speaker 11: local version which came out a few months ago and

1118
00:57:51,773 --> 00:57:54,213
Speaker 11: they've tried to replicate that chemistry that's sort of like

1119
00:57:54,653 --> 00:57:58,733
Speaker 11: jokey bantery antagonism, but it hasn't quite worked as well.

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Speaker 11: So they're not so secret source behind the show. But

1121
00:58:01,053 --> 00:58:03,653
Speaker 11: it's just a breezy light show. This is a nice

1122
00:58:03,773 --> 00:58:07,053
Speaker 11: twenty five year anniversary. It shows you all the highlights

1123
00:58:07,093 --> 00:58:09,053
Speaker 11: on the show, their effect on how the UK housing

1124
00:58:09,093 --> 00:58:11,693
Speaker 11: market and social conditions have dramatically shifted, which of course

1125
00:58:11,773 --> 00:58:14,733
Speaker 11: has the parallels here. So you can either just sit

1126
00:58:14,813 --> 00:58:17,053
Speaker 11: back and watch it and enjoy the nostalgia, or it's

1127
00:58:17,053 --> 00:58:19,893
Speaker 11: also a little bit of a documentary of social change

1128
00:58:19,973 --> 00:58:22,213
Speaker 11: and how technology and fashion and all that stuff has

1129
00:58:22,293 --> 00:58:24,893
Speaker 11: changed so dramatically in twenty five years. So just a

1130
00:58:25,013 --> 00:58:26,253
Speaker 11: nice fun little watch there.

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Speaker 4: Very good. Okay, that's twenty five years of location, location location.

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Speaker 4: It's on TVNZ Plus and on Skygo. The new season

1133
00:58:33,293 --> 00:58:34,373
Speaker 4: of south Park.

1134
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Speaker 11: Or when the gloves have come off in this new

1135
00:58:37,613 --> 00:58:41,053
Speaker 11: season of south Park, they are going for it. In

1136
00:58:41,173 --> 00:58:42,373
Speaker 11: my view, the only good to come out of the

1137
00:58:42,373 --> 00:58:44,733
Speaker 11: second Trump presidency is the fuse that has lit under

1138
00:58:44,773 --> 00:58:47,973
Speaker 11: the creative team of south Park because they are just

1139
00:58:48,293 --> 00:58:53,933
Speaker 11: off the chain at the moment, politically satirizing, just an

1140
00:58:53,973 --> 00:58:58,093
Speaker 11: abiting and brutal fashion, especially the time when in America

1141
00:58:58,213 --> 00:58:59,813
Speaker 11: Talk to Her hosts are being pulled off the air

1142
00:58:59,853 --> 00:59:03,013
Speaker 11: for sort of mild political jokes. TV networks are spending

1143
00:59:03,053 --> 00:59:07,293
Speaker 11: millions of dollars setting settling fairly frivolous cases against them

1144
00:59:07,333 --> 00:59:11,813
Speaker 11: by the administration. South Park is just fearlessly satirizing the

1145
00:59:11,893 --> 00:59:14,253
Speaker 11: federal government at the moment, and in a way that's

1146
00:59:14,293 --> 00:59:18,693
Speaker 11: true defiant, gleef and gleefully brutal, you know. And when

1147
00:59:18,733 --> 00:59:22,453
Speaker 11: it comes to Trump, specifically exuberantly obscene, it's just a

1148
00:59:22,573 --> 00:59:25,213
Speaker 11: giant middle finger. So, I mean, at this point we

1149
00:59:25,293 --> 00:59:28,053
Speaker 11: all know what South Pak is. If you have been

1150
00:59:28,173 --> 00:59:29,653
Speaker 11: checked out for a little while, because it has been

1151
00:59:29,693 --> 00:59:31,573
Speaker 11: going for so long that it's easy just to not

1152
00:59:31,693 --> 00:59:33,853
Speaker 11: watch it. If you ever did like it, now is

1153
00:59:33,853 --> 00:59:35,693
Speaker 11: a great time to jump back in because it is

1154
00:59:35,853 --> 00:59:41,413
Speaker 11: just top notch. It is so funny, so satirizing, just

1155
00:59:41,613 --> 00:59:43,253
Speaker 11: all the stuff that it makes it great.

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00:59:43,573 --> 00:59:45,093
Speaker 3: It is there right now. Yeah.

1157
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Speaker 4: The thing I love about South Park is they truly

1158
00:59:48,293 --> 00:59:52,413
Speaker 4: are equal opportunity satirists, but they just tease everyone. They

1159
00:59:52,493 --> 00:59:56,333
Speaker 4: target everyone of every kind of political dimension, every sphere,

1160
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Speaker 4: every cultural tear. I totally agree. I think South Park

1161
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Speaker 4: is outstanding. Thank you so much, Carl So. South Park

1162
01:00:03,373 --> 01:00:06,853
Speaker 4: is on Skygo twenty five years of location location on

1163
01:00:06,973 --> 01:00:10,653
Speaker 4: TVNZ plus Sean Coombs. The Reckoning is on Netflix and

1164
01:00:10,693 --> 01:00:12,773
Speaker 4: you can hear more from Carl of course, on his

1165
01:00:12,933 --> 01:00:16,773
Speaker 4: sub stack. It's called screen Crack. It's just gone ten.

1166
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Speaker 1: Thirty, Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack

1167
01:00:25,133 --> 01:00:53,653
Speaker 1: Team on news talks by.

1168
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Speaker 4: Music, events and artists that drop into Australia but skip

1169
01:00:47,253 --> 01:00:50,053
Speaker 4: right over us in New Zealand. They make for a

1170
01:00:50,093 --> 01:00:52,373
Speaker 4: bit of a hot topic, or they have done in

1171
01:00:52,453 --> 01:00:54,533
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. At the very least, we have mentioned

1172
01:00:54,573 --> 01:00:57,413
Speaker 4: before some of the world's biggest names who didn't bother

1173
01:00:57,533 --> 01:01:00,813
Speaker 4: gracing us with the show on their most recent world tours.

1174
01:01:01,293 --> 01:01:06,133
Speaker 4: Here's looking at you, Taylors with Oasis, Billie Eilish. When

1175
01:01:06,173 --> 01:01:09,093
Speaker 4: I do come our way, it can become a bit

1176
01:01:09,133 --> 01:01:11,053
Speaker 4: of a spectacle, in a good way for weeks. On

1177
01:01:11,173 --> 01:01:15,013
Speaker 4: either side of the event, conversation center around who's going.

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01:01:15,133 --> 01:01:18,813
Speaker 4: The excitement in the air across the country is near palpable.

1179
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Speaker 4: But what would that excitement be like? What kind of

1180
01:01:22,893 --> 01:01:25,973
Speaker 4: buzz would there be if New Zealand did become a

1181
01:01:26,173 --> 01:01:29,813
Speaker 4: regular stop for these big major tours. This week Australia

1182
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Speaker 4: is hosting two major international artists, Kendrick Lamar and Lady Gaga,

1183
01:01:34,533 --> 01:01:39,693
Speaker 4: and the Good Things Festival is headlining acts including Tool, Weezer, Garbage,

1184
01:01:39,773 --> 01:01:42,653
Speaker 4: and all time low. So our music reviewer has valiantly

1185
01:01:42,813 --> 01:01:47,053
Speaker 4: jumped over the ditch and squeezed all of those incredible

1186
01:01:47,173 --> 01:01:50,213
Speaker 4: acts into a week. He's going to bet with us

1187
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Speaker 4: before midday. My goodness, he's going to be exhausted but delighted.

1188
01:01:53,653 --> 01:01:57,613
Speaker 4: I'm sure to give us his thoughts and just gently

1189
01:01:57,693 --> 01:02:00,013
Speaker 4: remind us what we are all missing out on here.

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Speaker 4: We have had so many messages this morning regarding the

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01:02:04,093 --> 01:02:08,133
Speaker 4: little English language foible that some of us make from

1192
01:02:08,173 --> 01:02:11,053
Speaker 4: time to time and the things that really grind your gears.

1193
01:02:11,253 --> 01:02:13,173
Speaker 4: Jenny sent me an email to say, Jack, I remember

1194
01:02:13,253 --> 01:02:17,533
Speaker 4: my third form English teacher explaining the difference between due

1195
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Speaker 4: too and owing to. The only thing that is due

1196
01:02:22,213 --> 01:02:25,413
Speaker 4: is the next train. Anything that occurs as the result

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01:02:25,493 --> 01:02:28,733
Speaker 4: of something is owing to. That is a very very

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Speaker 4: good example, Jenny, and not one that I had considered before.

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Speaker 4: So thank you for that. Something that really annoys me,

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Speaker 4: says Pauline, is the something and nothing which you hear

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Speaker 4: all the time. And yes, Jack, I've heard you say

1202
01:02:41,733 --> 01:02:44,733
Speaker 4: several times like I said, like I said is incorrect.

1203
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Speaker 4: As I said is correct. I'll get to worry examples

1204
01:02:47,813 --> 01:02:49,853
Speaker 4: in a couple of minutes. Our Texpert is in very

1205
01:02:49,893 --> 01:02:53,053
Speaker 4: shortly with his thoughts on this massive new deal between

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Speaker 4: Netflix and Warner Brothers. Twenty five to eleven, Start your.

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Speaker 3: Day, enteritein it's the Mic Asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 15: So given it's the time of the year, let's welcome

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01:03:03,613 --> 01:03:05,213
Speaker 15: back out the Prime Minister for one last time for

1210
01:03:05,213 --> 01:03:07,453
Speaker 15: the fest of season. Christopher Luxeton on the News, I

1211
01:03:07,493 --> 01:03:09,333
Speaker 15: saw you saying I've got a gift swap, and I thought,

1212
01:03:09,373 --> 01:03:12,253
Speaker 15: I'm actually really confident in my exchange. Now listen to this.

1213
01:03:12,413 --> 01:03:13,453
Speaker 15: This is why we've given you.

1214
01:03:13,573 --> 01:03:16,093
Speaker 16: Pat we sat down, we hadnner on our left.

1215
01:03:16,173 --> 01:03:17,573
Speaker 15: Stop eating dinner on your knee.

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Speaker 16: It's not healthy.

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Speaker 9: So this is unique.

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Speaker 15: It's a one off unwrap that.

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Speaker 4: Oh look at this.

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Speaker 16: It was looking good until I took this out. Okay, listener,

1221
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Speaker 16: So what we've got is meal trace. But then Amanda

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Speaker 16: and I are now going to have great pleasure of

1223
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Speaker 16: looking at the wonderful face of Mike Hosking on top

1224
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Speaker 16: of our now good.

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Speaker 1: Boy back Monday from six am, The Mic Hosking Breakfast

1226
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Speaker 1: with the Defender and News togs HEADB twenty two minutes.

1227
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Speaker 4: Two eleven on News Talks, heb with Jack tame So

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Speaker 4: Netflix has announced it is going to be buying the

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Speaker 4: studios of Warner Brothers Discovery. It is a deal worth

1230
01:03:51,133 --> 01:03:54,653
Speaker 4: a fantastic amount of money, one hundred and forty four

1231
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Speaker 4: billion New Zealand dollars. Our Textbert Paul Stenhouse is here

1232
01:03:59,733 --> 01:04:01,653
Speaker 4: trying to deduce what it's going to mean for our

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01:04:01,733 --> 01:04:03,173
Speaker 4: various streaming services.

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Speaker 9: A Paul, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: I think HBO Max might be toast, right, So that

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01:04:12,373 --> 01:04:14,293
Speaker 17: is one of the that is that is Warner Brothers

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Speaker 17: Discoveries big streaming service. It's global one. It houses HBO,

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Speaker 17: you know, with all of the fantastic shows that come

1240
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Speaker 17: out of that studio, and it is one of the

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Speaker 17: premium streamers here in the States and globally, and I

1242
01:04:27,933 --> 01:04:31,413
Speaker 17: think that that will probably just be folded into Netflix

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Speaker 17: if this deal goes ahead. They also have the Discovery app,

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01:04:35,253 --> 01:04:39,013
Speaker 17: which I don't think is in New Zealand, but you

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01:04:39,053 --> 01:04:41,973
Speaker 17: know it has a bunch of you know, discovering. It

1246
01:04:42,093 --> 01:04:43,973
Speaker 17: was kind of the old kind of you know, sky

1247
01:04:44,093 --> 01:04:46,653
Speaker 17: TV type networks and things you get like the animal

1248
01:04:46,733 --> 01:04:50,053
Speaker 17: Planets and the cartoon networks and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 17: That's also as a separate service, but that's going to

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Speaker 17: stay So it's a really interesting transaction because a couple

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01:04:58,173 --> 01:05:02,253
Speaker 17: of years ago is when Warner Brothers and Discovery merged, right,

1252
01:05:02,333 --> 01:05:05,253
Speaker 17: it was sort of the smaller Discovery ended up buying

1253
01:05:05,373 --> 01:05:08,613
Speaker 17: Warner Brothers, which was just bizarre at the time. And now,

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01:05:08,693 --> 01:05:11,573
Speaker 17: of course us splitting the company up to basically put

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01:05:11,613 --> 01:05:15,373
Speaker 17: all of those quote unquote legacy TV assets into one

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Speaker 17: bucket and that's going to stay listed on the Stock exchange.

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Speaker 17: And then the flagship, if you will, the Warner Brothers studios,

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Speaker 17: including the Beautiful Lot in La and you know, the

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01:05:26,653 --> 01:05:29,693
Speaker 17: people that work at that studio, and then the streaming

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Speaker 17: service all will end up over with Netflix. And if

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Speaker 17: you really look at it and you went, well, why

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01:05:34,653 --> 01:05:36,853
Speaker 17: did they why did they even bother kind of doing

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01:05:36,933 --> 01:05:40,253
Speaker 17: this merger, they really just shuffled a few things around.

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Speaker 17: So CNN, for example, was part of that Warner Brothers

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Speaker 17: world that's now over in this kind of remain Co

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Speaker 17: Global Networks as they're calling it. And it will be

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Speaker 17: interesting to see how it go, how those companies go

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Speaker 17: on their own. I mean, people have talked about potentially

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01:05:55,613 --> 01:05:59,213
Speaker 17: trying to buy CNN back in the day and spinning

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Speaker 17: it out as a standalone service. So hey, it's going

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01:06:03,293 --> 01:06:06,573
Speaker 17: to kind of get its it's time to shy at

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Speaker 17: this at its new company. But no, Netflix spent just

1273
01:06:10,373 --> 01:06:12,973
Speaker 17: a ton, a ton of cash check. And of course

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01:06:13,013 --> 01:06:15,133
Speaker 17: all of this is subject to regulators, not just in

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01:06:15,213 --> 01:06:16,773
Speaker 17: the US state. There's a lot of talk about the

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01:06:16,813 --> 01:06:19,613
Speaker 17: Trump administration and what they will do, but also Netflix

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Speaker 17: operates in one hundred and ninety countries, so this will

1278
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Speaker 17: have to go through a bunch of international regulators too,

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Speaker 17: and the EU will be I'm sure all across it.

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Speaker 17: But can I tell you one thing I found very amusing. Please,

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Speaker 17: I've got friends who work at both Netflix. I have

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Speaker 17: friends who work at Warner Brothers Discovery.

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Speaker 10: Netflix.

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Speaker 17: Let me just say, pays very well.

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Speaker 4: Like they actually have a whole philosophy.

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Speaker 17: I could talk to you too much about it, but

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Speaker 17: they have a whole philosophy that staff at their company

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Speaker 17: should be like an a sports team, right, Like you

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Speaker 17: only want the A players on the field, right, And

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Speaker 17: if they pay you like you're an A player, and

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Speaker 17: the moment they don't think you should be in the

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Speaker 17: starting fifteen, the starting eleven, they ask you to leave, right,

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Speaker 17: so they pay top of the market.

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Speaker 6: It is brutal and so the.

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Speaker 17: Talk of the town, well the talk of my group

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Speaker 17: chat was will the Warner Brothers Discovery people now be

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Speaker 17: being paid like the Netflix? Yeah, so they're like, will

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Speaker 17: we be getting a pay ride?

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Speaker 4: I mean, a's if Netflix has gone any money left

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Speaker 4: after spending one hundred Well, hey, Samsung is launching the

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Speaker 4: first trifold phone. So we know about fold phones, but

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Speaker 4: now they're gonna They're gonna have two folds in them.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, so kind of like a brochure you sort of

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Speaker 17: open it up screen on the other side of it too,

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Speaker 17: so it's sort of like four screens, but three of

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Speaker 17: them go into one ten inch screen. It's sort of

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Speaker 17: so Samsung's put this out right. It's not gonna be

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Speaker 17: available in New Zealand. It's going to be in Korea first,

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Speaker 17: then China, Taiwan, Singapore, the UAE, and.

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Speaker 9: The USA, so some select markets.

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Speaker 17: But it is kind of funny because Apple, the analysts

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Speaker 17: are thinking that Apple will potentially put out their first

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Speaker 17: single fold phone, full screen kind of thing next year,

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Speaker 17: and Samsung's basically, I think in the eyes of some

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Speaker 17: kind of saying hold.

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Speaker 9: My beer, we're going to do one up.

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Speaker 17: We're going to do the trifold before you've even launched

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Speaker 17: the jewel fold.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 17: I mean, if you really do want something in your

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Speaker 17: pocket that can be used as a phone and then

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Speaker 17: could be used on you know, thinking like job sites

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Speaker 17: or things where you need, you know, people out and

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Speaker 17: about in company vehicles and things. It could be an

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Speaker 17: interesting solution for some of those things. But based on

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Speaker 17: the price of Samsung's jewel screen folding phone, it doesn't

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Speaker 17: come cheap, so that would be a cludge consideration.

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Speaker 4: Many yes, all right, thanks Paul, going to chat. That's

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Speaker 4: our Techsbert Paul Stenhouse. We're in the garden before eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Next up, our Master Somalier has his pick for this weekend.

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Speaker 2: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 2: Jack Saturday morning with Jack Team.

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Speaker 4: News Talks be fourteen two eleven on newsilks. It'd be

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Speaker 4: so many usage erarors being pulled out this morning. Jack

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Speaker 4: five am in the morning. That really annoys may as well,

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Speaker 4: Phil when people say, oh, was it five am in

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Speaker 4: the morning as opposed to five am in the evening? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: absolutely ridiculous. Ninety two to ninety two. If you want

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Speaker 4: to send us a text. I'll get to mow your

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Speaker 4: examples very shortly. Our masters and mallier Cameron Douglas has

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Speaker 4: chosen for his wine of the week a Chardonay from

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Speaker 4: the Landing at twenty twenty four in the Bay of Islands,

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Speaker 4: of course, and Cameron is with us. Now go to Cameron, good.

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Speaker 3: Morning, good morning. What a beautiful day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it is. So why did you go with the

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Speaker 4: Landing Chardonay?

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Speaker 12: Well, I was thinking it's this time of year when

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01:09:36,693 --> 01:09:41,853
Speaker 12: we start thinking about gifts for Christmas, and I'm all

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01:09:41,933 --> 01:09:46,773
Speaker 12: about the stories that you create through experiences, and that's

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01:09:46,813 --> 01:09:48,893
Speaker 12: as much as a gift as it is something like

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01:09:48,973 --> 01:09:51,213
Speaker 12: a bottle of wine, or you can do both. And

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Speaker 12: I was thinking that if you find yourself up in

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Speaker 12: the Bay of Islands this summertime, then one place that

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Speaker 12: you must be on your bucket list is a visit

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Speaker 12: to the Landing. Not only is it great for its

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Speaker 12: viticulture and experience, just getting there alone is a wonderful experience,

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Speaker 12: but there's a great story and history behind the actual

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Speaker 12: site itself. It's where the first identifiable vineyard in New

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Speaker 12: Zealand was planted many many years ago, in the eighteen hundreds,

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Speaker 12: but it's also the place where the first permanent European

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Speaker 12: settlement in New Zealand began and where the first community

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Speaker 12: of European missionaries and indigenous Maori lived together. And this

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Speaker 12: is all part of the greater Land area and farming

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01:10:39,853 --> 01:10:43,973
Speaker 12: community that was established where the Landing wines are. So

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Speaker 12: it's got a great story behind it already.

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Speaker 4: It's, like you say, a beautiful part of the country

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Speaker 4: as well, But tell us about the tell us about

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Speaker 4: the wine itself. What is the Landing Chardonnay twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: four Taste life.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's well, the first word I always write down

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Speaker 12: with the wine that I like to talk about is delicious.

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Speaker 12: It's got a deliciousness to it. But it also has

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Speaker 12: this what I call an coat of place, and it's

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01:11:07,933 --> 01:11:11,293
Speaker 12: where people talk about minerality, and for me, it has

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01:11:11,413 --> 01:11:17,453
Speaker 12: this clay stone, mineral salty seaside echo through the wine

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01:11:17,893 --> 01:11:21,493
Speaker 12: and then this rush of chardenay characteristics of fresh apple

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01:11:21,573 --> 01:11:25,213
Speaker 12: and grapefruit and right yellow stone fruit. And then of

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Speaker 12: course a lot of chardonnays do like to have a

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Speaker 12: relationship with oak, in this case free choke, so there's

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Speaker 12: a nice little wood spice characteristic in there and what

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Speaker 12: I call Lee's ortolysis complexity. So there's a lot of

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01:11:39,733 --> 01:11:43,093
Speaker 12: texture in this wine as well as core fruit flavors.

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01:11:43,253 --> 01:11:47,053
Speaker 12: It's young, it's taught, it's lovely on its own all

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Speaker 12: with food.

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Speaker 4: Oh nice. So what would you match it with.

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Speaker 12: Well, chardenay can be enjoyed on its own. And if

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Speaker 12: I was going to suggest something that ticked the boxes

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01:11:59,053 --> 01:12:02,973
Speaker 12: of a lot of different dietaries, I'm going with a

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Speaker 12: homemade fettachini dish. So make your own fetechini or by

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Speaker 12: some ribbons, and then do it in a very very

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01:12:10,213 --> 01:12:13,173
Speaker 12: light cream sauce, not a big thick, heavy cream sauce,

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Speaker 12: just very very light, and make sure you toss in

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Speaker 12: some toasted pine nuts and button mushrooms. Then you add

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Speaker 12: the protein that you want. I like roasted salmon or

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01:12:23,573 --> 01:12:26,093
Speaker 12: smoked salmon through my feeder cheney. But you could do

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Speaker 12: turkey for this time of year, or you could leave

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Speaker 12: it completely vegetarian.

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Speaker 4: Amazing. That sounds so good. Hey, thank you, Cameron. So

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Speaker 4: camera's picked for us this week is a twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: four chardonnay from the Landing in the Bay of Islands.

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Speaker 4: We'll make sure we've got all the details up on

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Speaker 4: the news talks, he'db website after eleven o'clock. On news talks,

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01:12:45,373 --> 01:12:47,773
Speaker 4: he'd be our travel correspondent is in giving us his

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01:12:47,933 --> 01:12:52,973
Speaker 4: top tips on Ireland's hidden heartland. So really looking forward

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01:12:52,973 --> 01:12:57,893
Speaker 4: to getting those little spots from him. Shortly and heaps

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01:12:57,933 --> 01:12:59,773
Speaker 4: and heapsa texts have come through, not only about usage

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Speaker 4: but also about Alice Taylor. I feats your interview this morning,

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Speaker 4: calder Jack. Loved your interview with Alice, says Bridget. She

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Speaker 4: is a superstar. I won first prize at the Skagills

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01:13:09,613 --> 01:13:12,573
Speaker 4: Spring Show with her lemon syrup cake recipe and I

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01:13:12,733 --> 01:13:14,973
Speaker 4: was visiting Aucklander at the time. I'm not sure how

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01:13:15,013 --> 01:13:17,493
Speaker 4: that went down with the locals. Love your work. Thanks

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01:13:17,533 --> 01:13:19,853
Speaker 4: Bridget ninety ninety two. If you want to send us

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01:13:19,853 --> 01:13:21,093
Speaker 4: a message, we're in the garden.

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Speaker 1: Next gardening with still shop and get dollars off loads

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01:13:25,173 --> 01:13:26,493
Speaker 1: of selected still tools.

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Speaker 4: Rude time passes our men in the garden. Good morning,

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01:13:30,813 --> 01:13:34,613
Speaker 4: A very good morning to you. Tricky pests in the

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Speaker 4: garden this morning.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, but first I'm going to deal with some tricky language.

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01:13:38,173 --> 01:13:41,613
Speaker 18: Oh dear, I'm sorry, I mean, you know, I don't

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01:13:41,613 --> 01:13:44,813
Speaker 18: know if you've noticed but there is an enormous nonsense

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01:13:44,973 --> 01:13:48,853
Speaker 18: in the marketing language. Yes, I'll give you an example.

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01:13:49,093 --> 01:13:52,173
Speaker 18: Please and watch this because this is becoming big and

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01:13:53,053 --> 01:13:56,253
Speaker 18: I bet she's going to be controversial. There are these

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Speaker 18: these politicians that talk about we now have a political ecosystem.

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01:14:02,653 --> 01:14:06,093
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, and it isn't an it's not an

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01:14:06,133 --> 01:14:09,133
Speaker 4: ease an ecosystem exactly.

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Speaker 18: But an ecosystem is wonderful. It is collaborative, it's not competitive.

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01:14:14,253 --> 01:14:15,693
Speaker 18: It's all the other things.

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Speaker 3: This is what you got it.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, and also the not only economic ecosystem, political ecosystem,

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01:14:22,813 --> 01:14:25,093
Speaker 18: but also things like what we're talking about today, we're

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01:14:25,093 --> 01:14:28,133
Speaker 18: talking about bugs. Well, the funny thing is that bugs

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01:14:28,573 --> 01:14:32,053
Speaker 18: are a very specific group of insects that are the

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01:14:32,213 --> 01:14:36,893
Speaker 18: true bugs, and and all the others are literally invertebrates,

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01:14:37,333 --> 01:14:39,573
Speaker 18: you know, the ones without a backbone and all that

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01:14:39,653 --> 01:14:43,373
Speaker 18: sort of stuff. So I thought, let's talk about bugs.

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01:14:43,613 --> 01:14:48,693
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, merely bugs and particular we have Honestly, I

1441
01:14:48,813 --> 01:14:50,973
Speaker 4: just feel like this is the problem with the indoor

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01:14:51,053 --> 01:14:53,253
Speaker 4: plant at a place in particular. We are just always

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01:14:53,333 --> 01:14:54,053
Speaker 4: fighting the media.

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01:14:54,093 --> 01:14:54,373
Speaker 3: Bugs.

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01:14:54,853 --> 01:14:55,733
Speaker 4: Yeah, mellibug.

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Speaker 18: And so there's two they're basically similar scale and sex

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01:14:59,733 --> 01:15:02,053
Speaker 18: and medibugs are in the same group, and they are

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01:15:02,213 --> 01:15:05,773
Speaker 18: a pain in the bum to actually control, if you like.

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01:15:06,373 --> 01:15:08,813
Speaker 18: So let's have a look at that first. So they

1450
01:15:08,853 --> 01:15:11,773
Speaker 18: were they're really nasty things. The first thing they both do,

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01:15:12,093 --> 01:15:15,893
Speaker 18: both melli bugs and and the scale in sects, they

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01:15:16,253 --> 01:15:21,013
Speaker 18: stick their their watching them. Call it the things at

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01:15:21,053 --> 01:15:23,973
Speaker 18: the front. You have to suck up the juices from

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01:15:24,053 --> 01:15:26,733
Speaker 18: the plants, from the veins of the leaves and from

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01:15:26,813 --> 01:15:29,733
Speaker 18: the plants. And basically what they then do is they

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01:15:30,013 --> 01:15:34,333
Speaker 18: poop out the honeyjew the sweet sap, which by the way,

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01:15:34,453 --> 01:15:36,453
Speaker 18: is a nice word for the turret in nature.

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01:15:36,613 --> 01:15:37,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, got that.

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Speaker 18: You have told you that before anyway, So this is

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01:15:40,373 --> 01:15:42,773
Speaker 18: how it works. They get stuff out of the plant

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01:15:42,813 --> 01:15:44,693
Speaker 18: and they poop it out as honeydew. And on top

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01:15:44,773 --> 01:15:48,893
Speaker 18: of the honeydew grows a black sooty mold, which is

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01:15:48,973 --> 01:15:51,933
Speaker 18: a fungus that actually makes it kind of go away.

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01:15:52,573 --> 01:15:55,853
Speaker 18: But it shows you now what you're looking for if

1465
01:15:55,893 --> 01:15:58,733
Speaker 18: you are if you have these problems, if you get

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01:15:58,773 --> 01:16:01,493
Speaker 18: a black stuff on the top, it's always a sap

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01:16:01,653 --> 01:16:04,893
Speaker 18: sucking bug that does it. There's a couple of few,

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01:16:05,413 --> 01:16:09,493
Speaker 18: quite a few of them, particular varieties and so as

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Speaker 18: you said, inside where you are with your house plants, absolutely,

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Speaker 18: but outside, especially in Auckland with its nice relative humidity,

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01:16:18,573 --> 01:16:21,533
Speaker 18: you get heaps of them too, and it is really

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Speaker 18: a pain in the bum to get rid of.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so here we go.

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Speaker 19: What do you do?

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01:16:27,293 --> 01:16:31,693
Speaker 18: You use materials that are systemic, if you like, and

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01:16:31,813 --> 01:16:34,693
Speaker 18: that you can use. I'll give you an example. Grow

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01:16:34,853 --> 01:16:39,133
Speaker 18: ventive is a really good material, but if you read

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01:16:39,173 --> 01:16:41,653
Speaker 18: the label you say you cannot be used. You can

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01:16:41,933 --> 01:16:44,973
Speaker 18: be using that on edible crops because it's not very

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01:16:45,053 --> 01:16:48,173
Speaker 18: good for us to eat something that has been sprayed

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01:16:48,213 --> 01:16:52,013
Speaker 18: with grow ventive. Right, Yeah, this is a really important one.

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01:16:52,533 --> 01:16:55,013
Speaker 18: Then you have the famous kneem oil we quite often

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01:16:55,053 --> 01:16:55,453
Speaker 18: talk about.

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01:16:55,773 --> 01:16:57,493
Speaker 4: Yep, i've got any oil at our plants. That's what

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Speaker 4: we do. I know you do.

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Speaker 18: And conquerer oil, which is a similar sort of thing.

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Speaker 18: And here comes the thing and you see it on

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01:17:03,933 --> 01:17:07,373
Speaker 18: those photos that are sent to Libby. If you've got

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Speaker 18: very young mealy bugs, your very young scale insects, it

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01:17:10,533 --> 01:17:13,693
Speaker 18: takes time for them to grow and when they lay

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01:17:13,733 --> 01:17:18,373
Speaker 18: their eggs, the babies come out literally not that long after,

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01:17:18,733 --> 01:17:23,013
Speaker 18: and that means you have to reapply that particular material

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01:17:23,093 --> 01:17:25,733
Speaker 18: said I mentioned to grow ventive and the conqueror on anymore,

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01:17:26,213 --> 01:17:30,093
Speaker 18: say every week, maybe every ten days or so. And

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Speaker 18: if you do that consistently, you can do it, mate,

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01:17:33,133 --> 01:17:33,493
Speaker 18: you can.

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01:17:33,573 --> 01:17:35,413
Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like we've been fighting a

1498
01:17:35,533 --> 01:17:37,653
Speaker 4: fight that's lasted a lot longer than ten days at

1499
01:17:37,693 --> 01:17:38,093
Speaker 4: our place.

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01:17:38,173 --> 01:17:38,373
Speaker 3: Road.

1501
01:17:38,533 --> 01:17:40,413
Speaker 4: It's like whack them ole with the merely bugs at

1502
01:17:40,413 --> 01:17:42,893
Speaker 4: our place. But like you say, you've just got to

1503
01:17:42,933 --> 01:17:46,053
Speaker 4: be fastidious. Hey, thank you sir, have every weekend catch

1504
01:17:46,093 --> 01:17:49,133
Speaker 4: again very soon. Thank you so much for all of

1505
01:17:49,213 --> 01:17:53,213
Speaker 4: your messages this morning. We have had just ridiculous numbers

1506
01:17:53,453 --> 01:17:56,093
Speaker 4: of pet peeves, pet language peeves that I'll share with

1507
01:17:56,173 --> 01:17:58,053
Speaker 4: you after eleven o'clock this morning, as well as that

1508
01:17:58,653 --> 01:18:01,533
Speaker 4: our clinical psychologist is in. He's been noting all of

1509
01:18:01,653 --> 01:18:05,533
Speaker 4: the all of the nostalgic vibes lately, so he's going

1510
01:18:05,573 --> 01:18:08,133
Speaker 4: to tell us why good old days feels so good

1511
01:18:08,413 --> 01:18:10,773
Speaker 4: news is next though it's almost eleven o'clock.

1512
01:18:12,813 --> 01:18:16,613
Speaker 2: Saturday morning. With Jack team keeping the conversation going through

1513
01:18:16,693 --> 01:18:18,333
Speaker 2: the weekend news talks, he'd be.

1514
01:18:42,213 --> 01:18:44,613
Speaker 4: Good morning you were Jack Tame on news talks, he'd

1515
01:18:44,653 --> 01:18:47,933
Speaker 4: be for another or fifty three minutes or so this

1516
01:18:48,133 --> 01:18:51,653
Speaker 4: Saturday morning together, just so you know, the Black Caps

1517
01:18:51,813 --> 01:18:54,413
Speaker 4: have kicked off at Hagley Park for Day four against

1518
01:18:54,453 --> 01:18:58,013
Speaker 4: the Western Neys in their first Test. At the moment

1519
01:18:58,973 --> 01:19:01,133
Speaker 4: it looks like a relatively nice day, a little bit breezy,

1520
01:19:01,293 --> 01:19:04,693
Speaker 4: but the Westerndis are four down for two hundred and thirty,

1521
01:19:04,733 --> 01:19:06,653
Speaker 4: so they have a long way to go. So if

1522
01:19:06,693 --> 01:19:09,333
Speaker 4: they are to win this Test, but I don't know,

1523
01:19:09,493 --> 01:19:12,253
Speaker 4: it could be interesting. Show Hope's currently one hundred and

1524
01:19:12,293 --> 01:19:13,973
Speaker 4: twenty seven nod out, so if he were just to

1525
01:19:14,053 --> 01:19:16,893
Speaker 4: stick around for a wee while longer, maybe get past

1526
01:19:16,933 --> 01:19:19,093
Speaker 4: that two hundred mark, who knows, it could be very

1527
01:19:19,213 --> 01:19:21,253
Speaker 4: interesting indeed. So I will keep you up to speed

1528
01:19:21,373 --> 01:19:24,613
Speaker 4: with the latest developments from Hagley Oval this morning. We

1529
01:19:24,613 --> 01:19:25,893
Speaker 4: will also keep you up to say with the latest

1530
01:19:25,933 --> 01:19:28,853
Speaker 4: developments from the Party Mardi Agm this weekend, which I

1531
01:19:28,853 --> 01:19:30,293
Speaker 4: think is going to be an interesting one to say

1532
01:19:30,293 --> 01:19:33,213
Speaker 4: the least. Maria mental Kapa KINGI of course had the

1533
01:19:33,293 --> 01:19:35,493
Speaker 4: decision from the judge esterday which means she will be

1534
01:19:35,613 --> 01:19:39,013
Speaker 4: able to attend the AGM. She says she's going to

1535
01:19:39,013 --> 01:19:41,653
Speaker 4: be focusing on her work, but it's hard to imagine

1536
01:19:41,693 --> 01:19:43,733
Speaker 4: that some of the interpersonal relationships aren't going to be

1537
01:19:43,773 --> 01:19:46,373
Speaker 4: front and center of all of the courted or at

1538
01:19:46,413 --> 01:19:48,533
Speaker 4: the T Party mardi agm. I mean, it really is

1539
01:19:48,613 --> 01:19:51,213
Speaker 4: remarkable if you to step back, regardless of what you

1540
01:19:51,293 --> 01:19:55,013
Speaker 4: think of Tiparty Mahdi and their politics, if you to

1541
01:19:55,053 --> 01:19:57,293
Speaker 4: stand back and think, well, over the last couple of years,

1542
01:19:57,373 --> 01:20:02,693
Speaker 4: they have probably had more momentum than almost any other

1543
01:20:02,773 --> 01:20:05,973
Speaker 4: party in that they have from where they were to

1544
01:20:06,013 --> 01:20:08,413
Speaker 4: where they to where they I was gonna say where

1545
01:20:08,413 --> 01:20:10,213
Speaker 4: they are, but from where they were to where they were,

1546
01:20:11,493 --> 01:20:14,013
Speaker 4: I mean they have had this huge kind of this

1547
01:20:14,333 --> 01:20:16,893
Speaker 4: sense of growth and momentum that came out of the

1548
01:20:18,053 --> 01:20:22,133
Speaker 4: hikoi more tatidity and you know, so much of their

1549
01:20:22,213 --> 01:20:26,173
Speaker 4: social media game and all of that. And yet at

1550
01:20:26,213 --> 01:20:30,533
Speaker 4: a time when all of these policies were passing through Parliament,

1551
01:20:30,613 --> 01:20:35,733
Speaker 4: policies that Tparti Maudi was established to try and oppose

1552
01:20:35,813 --> 01:20:38,933
Speaker 4: things like the Marine and Coastal Areas Act, they are

1553
01:20:39,053 --> 01:20:42,093
Speaker 4: far too focused on feuding with one another. I mean

1554
01:20:42,133 --> 01:20:45,333
Speaker 4: it's almost Shakespearean, honestly. And for all of these politicians

1555
01:20:45,373 --> 01:20:47,693
Speaker 4: they say it's the Coppper first Coppper first year, not

1556
01:20:47,813 --> 01:20:50,413
Speaker 4: so much. Maybe anyway, it'd be very interesting to watch

1557
01:20:50,453 --> 01:20:53,173
Speaker 4: our proceedings at the Departy Mardi Agm this weekend, and

1558
01:20:53,213 --> 01:20:55,013
Speaker 4: of course the news team will be covering it and

1559
01:20:55,133 --> 01:20:57,573
Speaker 4: making sure you are first to hear of any developments

1560
01:20:58,053 --> 01:21:01,293
Speaker 4: out of that Hui before midday on Newstalks. He'd be

1561
01:21:01,573 --> 01:21:03,733
Speaker 4: our music reviewer. Really has a tough life. He has

1562
01:21:03,813 --> 01:21:07,613
Speaker 4: whipped over to Australia and squeak. He's been a ridiculous

1563
01:21:07,693 --> 01:21:10,093
Speaker 4: number of gigs into just a few days and look,

1564
01:21:10,133 --> 01:21:12,653
Speaker 4: we've we've had a pretty good run of things here lately.

1565
01:21:12,813 --> 01:21:16,373
Speaker 4: We had Metallica, we had Tool but no over in Australia,

1566
01:21:16,653 --> 01:21:18,813
Speaker 4: he's been to Good Things, the Good Things Festival. He's

1567
01:21:18,813 --> 01:21:21,413
Speaker 4: been to said Kendrick Lamar and Lady Gaga in the

1568
01:21:21,453 --> 01:21:23,693
Speaker 4: space of a few days. So he's going to tell

1569
01:21:23,773 --> 01:21:25,933
Speaker 4: us how those gigs have been going down and what

1570
01:21:26,093 --> 01:21:28,893
Speaker 4: it might mean for New Zealand if we are able

1571
01:21:28,973 --> 01:21:33,013
Speaker 4: to get back on the list of potential venues for

1572
01:21:33,173 --> 01:21:36,413
Speaker 4: these global artists doing global tours. As well as that

1573
01:21:36,733 --> 01:21:41,613
Speaker 4: our travel correspondence and shortly with his favorite picks among

1574
01:21:41,733 --> 01:21:45,213
Speaker 4: Ireland's hidden heartland right now tho it's ten past eleven,

1575
01:21:45,893 --> 01:21:49,533
Speaker 4: Check team Doogle Southern from Umbrella Well Being is here

1576
01:21:49,573 --> 01:21:52,613
Speaker 4: with us this morning, and Dougal. We've been reflecting in

1577
01:21:52,693 --> 01:21:56,173
Speaker 4: our music segments over the last few weeks that there's

1578
01:21:56,213 --> 01:21:58,533
Speaker 4: a real kind of thing for nostalgia at the moment,

1579
01:21:58,613 --> 01:22:01,973
Speaker 4: whether it's O waysis even even bands like Metallica, I

1580
01:22:02,053 --> 01:22:03,533
Speaker 4: think many of us have a bit of a thing

1581
01:22:03,613 --> 01:22:07,213
Speaker 4: for nostalgia. And you've been remember bring the good old

1582
01:22:07,333 --> 01:22:10,493
Speaker 4: days and remembering and noting that nextly maybe the good

1583
01:22:10,533 --> 01:22:14,093
Speaker 4: old days are not quite as good as we necessarily recall.

1584
01:22:15,813 --> 01:22:18,853
Speaker 19: Well, I think the fact is that everybody's good old

1585
01:22:18,933 --> 01:22:21,533
Speaker 19: days are the good old days, and in fact, in

1586
01:22:21,613 --> 01:22:25,573
Speaker 19: twenty twenty five will currently be in the future somebody's

1587
01:22:25,613 --> 01:22:29,213
Speaker 19: good old days. So we all have this period of

1588
01:22:29,333 --> 01:22:32,653
Speaker 19: our lives sort of you know, mid to late teens,

1589
01:22:32,773 --> 01:22:36,813
Speaker 19: early adulthood, which most of us look back fondly on,

1590
01:22:37,533 --> 01:22:40,693
Speaker 19: and most of us have big, sort of good memories

1591
01:22:40,813 --> 01:22:44,653
Speaker 19: for that period. And you know, you remember your first kiss,

1592
01:22:44,773 --> 01:22:47,613
Speaker 19: and you remember your first big concert, and you remember

1593
01:22:47,653 --> 01:22:49,173
Speaker 19: your first this and your first that.

1594
01:22:50,533 --> 01:22:53,613
Speaker 4: Nostia is seductive, It is seductive.

1595
01:22:53,813 --> 01:22:54,333
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

1596
01:22:54,413 --> 01:22:58,053
Speaker 19: Politicians use it, you know, make America great again, because

1597
01:22:58,133 --> 01:23:00,333
Speaker 19: remember it used to be great. Remember in the good

1598
01:23:00,373 --> 01:23:02,493
Speaker 19: old days when it used to be great. It's not now,

1599
01:23:02,693 --> 01:23:06,293
Speaker 19: is it. And that's that's the thing that psychologists call

1600
01:23:07,093 --> 01:23:08,213
Speaker 19: the reminiscence bump.

1601
01:23:08,733 --> 01:23:09,853
Speaker 3: So that's that.

1602
01:23:10,213 --> 01:23:13,093
Speaker 19: Period of your life, you know, that that that late

1603
01:23:13,573 --> 01:23:19,133
Speaker 19: that late late teens, early adulthood when we we pretty

1604
01:23:19,213 --> 01:23:21,933
Speaker 19: much all of us have that sort of just.

1605
01:23:22,013 --> 01:23:24,613
Speaker 6: That general, we have a large.

1606
01:23:24,373 --> 01:23:26,893
Speaker 19: Amount of memories and they're often very have a very

1607
01:23:26,933 --> 01:23:29,973
Speaker 19: positive sort of elements to them, that very nostalgic that

1608
01:23:30,053 --> 01:23:32,493
Speaker 19: we like to look back on and think of as

1609
01:23:32,573 --> 01:23:33,293
Speaker 19: the good old.

1610
01:23:33,173 --> 01:23:33,973
Speaker 6: Days for us.

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01:23:34,493 --> 01:23:37,373
Speaker 4: It's it's probably because while I'm just guessing here, but

1612
01:23:37,573 --> 01:23:40,653
Speaker 4: is it because that's when you sort of have your

1613
01:23:40,693 --> 01:23:44,893
Speaker 4: first sense of independence, that the kind of formative years

1614
01:23:45,773 --> 01:23:50,373
Speaker 4: professionally or educationally and that and that Yeah, you know,

1615
01:23:50,413 --> 01:23:52,853
Speaker 4: I suppose in a relationship sense that you know, you're

1616
01:23:52,933 --> 01:23:54,413
Speaker 4: experiencing a lot of new things as well.

1617
01:23:55,253 --> 01:23:56,533
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that, that's right.

1618
01:23:56,613 --> 01:23:59,053
Speaker 19: And I think that sort of speaks to what memory

1619
01:23:59,293 --> 01:24:02,533
Speaker 19: is for or why do we have memory? And and

1620
01:24:03,293 --> 01:24:05,333
Speaker 19: this sort sort of memory memory about our own lives

1621
01:24:05,413 --> 01:24:10,133
Speaker 19: is called autobigra memory, right, And and it's not the

1622
01:24:10,773 --> 01:24:12,493
Speaker 19: role of memory, or at least this type of memy

1623
01:24:12,613 --> 01:24:15,333
Speaker 19: isn't to keep a sort of video recording of our

1624
01:24:15,413 --> 01:24:17,653
Speaker 19: lives and everything that happens so that we can sort.

1625
01:24:17,453 --> 01:24:20,573
Speaker 6: Of go back to it whenever we want. Well, one

1626
01:24:20,613 --> 01:24:22,653
Speaker 6: of the big theories is that it's actually.

1627
01:24:22,853 --> 01:24:25,893
Speaker 19: Our memory, our autobiographical memories about figuring out who we

1628
01:24:26,013 --> 01:24:29,333
Speaker 19: are and helping us shape our view of ourselves, so

1629
01:24:29,773 --> 01:24:32,053
Speaker 19: that as you say, that's when we start having our

1630
01:24:32,093 --> 01:24:36,133
Speaker 19: first serious relationships, we start our professional careers, and our

1631
01:24:36,293 --> 01:24:39,053
Speaker 19: memories of that help shape our view of who we

1632
01:24:39,173 --> 01:24:41,853
Speaker 19: are going forward. Oh yes, i am this, or I

1633
01:24:42,013 --> 01:24:44,333
Speaker 19: am I'm an Oasis fan or I'm a Blue fan.

1634
01:24:45,293 --> 01:24:46,933
Speaker 6: To you know, that's a fairly.

1635
01:24:46,773 --> 01:24:49,973
Speaker 19: Minor example, but you know that it helps us shape

1636
01:24:50,093 --> 01:24:52,533
Speaker 19: and gives us that sense of who we are as people.

1637
01:24:52,653 --> 01:24:54,813
Speaker 19: These other things that are important to me, they have

1638
01:24:54,933 --> 01:24:57,733
Speaker 19: stuck out, these have shaped me in some ways.

1639
01:24:57,933 --> 01:25:01,173
Speaker 4: For these are they are formative identity?

1640
01:25:02,213 --> 01:25:02,453
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1641
01:25:02,573 --> 01:25:05,053
Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, that's a really good way upon it.

1642
01:25:05,133 --> 01:25:09,333
Speaker 6: The formative identity about us. And because they're new and unique.

1643
01:25:09,413 --> 01:25:11,893
Speaker 19: You know, your first big concert or that first job,

1644
01:25:12,013 --> 01:25:16,013
Speaker 19: your first car, your first love, you probably have talked.

1645
01:25:15,773 --> 01:25:18,293
Speaker 6: About it and thought about it and remembered about it

1646
01:25:18,373 --> 01:25:18,613
Speaker 6: a lot.

1647
01:25:18,773 --> 01:25:20,773
Speaker 19: So you keep bringing it back to mind, and you

1648
01:25:20,933 --> 01:25:23,693
Speaker 19: keep rehearsing it, and so you're keeping it alive, and

1649
01:25:23,773 --> 01:25:26,933
Speaker 19: you're giving up more attention perhaps than you might give

1650
01:25:27,013 --> 01:25:29,373
Speaker 19: to other events that have happened in your life. So,

1651
01:25:30,373 --> 01:25:33,493
Speaker 19: you know, so we're likely to recall it more because

1652
01:25:33,533 --> 01:25:37,133
Speaker 19: we've practiced and we've rehearsed it more, and because they're

1653
01:25:37,173 --> 01:25:40,373
Speaker 19: sort of often new and exciting events that have happened

1654
01:25:40,413 --> 01:25:42,933
Speaker 19: our first times. You know, they tend to give us

1655
01:25:42,973 --> 01:25:45,213
Speaker 19: that sort of rosy kind of sense of what our

1656
01:25:45,293 --> 01:25:46,533
Speaker 19: lives were like in the past.

1657
01:25:47,053 --> 01:25:50,173
Speaker 4: It's very interesting, so and interesting that you focus on

1658
01:25:50,213 --> 01:25:52,773
Speaker 4: the good things, you know that we kind of we

1659
01:25:52,853 --> 01:25:55,253
Speaker 4: look at the rosier things. Do you think that maybe

1660
01:25:57,253 --> 01:26:00,693
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe maybe there's because there's I don't

1661
01:26:00,733 --> 01:26:02,453
Speaker 4: want to say there's less pressure when you're young, because

1662
01:26:02,453 --> 01:26:04,333
Speaker 4: actually a lot of young people under it a huge

1663
01:26:04,373 --> 01:26:06,973
Speaker 4: amount amounts of pressure. But I suppose you know, if

1664
01:26:07,013 --> 01:26:09,413
Speaker 4: you're eighteen or nineteen, you're not worried about the mortgage

1665
01:26:09,533 --> 01:26:12,573
Speaker 4: or feeding the kids. Yeah, that's generally speaking, right.

1666
01:26:12,853 --> 01:26:14,613
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, get typically speaking of it.

1667
01:26:14,693 --> 01:26:18,053
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean that, you know, we do tend to

1668
01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:22,773
Speaker 19: remember things that stand out, so you know, that the unique,

1669
01:26:22,853 --> 01:26:26,013
Speaker 19: then you tend to stand out more for us, and

1670
01:26:26,053 --> 01:26:27,413
Speaker 19: we tend to rehearse.

1671
01:26:27,093 --> 01:26:30,093
Speaker 6: And remember those more than more than sort of the.

1672
01:26:30,133 --> 01:26:32,973
Speaker 19: Daily drudgery of sort of getting up and you know,

1673
01:26:33,213 --> 01:26:35,213
Speaker 19: going to work and having to pay the bills, which

1674
01:26:35,293 --> 01:26:37,853
Speaker 19: happens over and over and over and over again. But

1675
01:26:37,973 --> 01:26:41,133
Speaker 19: it's just not very particularly exciting to think about, so

1676
01:26:41,213 --> 01:26:42,893
Speaker 19: we don't spend a lot of time thinking about it,

1677
01:26:42,973 --> 01:26:44,533
Speaker 19: but we do want to spend you know.

1678
01:26:44,573 --> 01:26:45,933
Speaker 6: It excites us and interests.

1679
01:26:46,093 --> 01:26:48,533
Speaker 19: It makes us feel good when we remember those first

1680
01:26:48,613 --> 01:26:52,733
Speaker 19: things again, and so yeah, it helps shape our kind

1681
01:26:52,773 --> 01:26:57,653
Speaker 19: of rememory of who we are as people and who

1682
01:26:57,733 --> 01:27:01,173
Speaker 19: we are as humans and our identity of ourselves.

1683
01:27:01,253 --> 01:27:08,133
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, it's interesting how the new experiences thing manipulates perception.

1684
01:27:08,333 --> 01:27:11,973
Speaker 4: So I read a study recently that was suggesting that,

1685
01:27:12,173 --> 01:27:14,173
Speaker 4: you know, you know, how it feels like time is

1686
01:27:14,213 --> 01:27:16,653
Speaker 4: speeding up as you get older. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But

1687
01:27:16,733 --> 01:27:20,093
Speaker 4: apparently it's not just because everything is relative. You know,

1688
01:27:20,213 --> 01:27:22,533
Speaker 4: so when you're a kid, you've only if you've only

1689
01:27:22,573 --> 01:27:24,773
Speaker 4: been alive for five years, you know, one day as

1690
01:27:24,773 --> 01:27:28,933
Speaker 4: a percentage of life as much. Yeah, but it's because

1691
01:27:29,093 --> 01:27:34,333
Speaker 4: new experiences when you are experiencing a new experience, it

1692
01:27:34,693 --> 01:27:41,013
Speaker 4: doesn't pass with the same speed that the drudgery of

1693
01:27:41,093 --> 01:27:44,173
Speaker 4: repeated experiences passed with. So, for example, like if you're

1694
01:27:44,213 --> 01:27:46,333
Speaker 4: just going to work normally for a month, that month

1695
01:27:46,373 --> 01:27:48,573
Speaker 4: will really fast. But if you have a month in

1696
01:27:48,653 --> 01:27:53,653
Speaker 4: which you are backpacking through you know, through the through

1697
01:27:53,733 --> 01:27:56,053
Speaker 4: the north coast of Spain and then the hiking in

1698
01:27:56,133 --> 01:27:59,293
Speaker 4: the Pyrenees or something like that, the actual experience of

1699
01:27:59,333 --> 01:28:01,013
Speaker 4: that month will take a lot longer because they're all

1700
01:28:01,093 --> 01:28:01,853
Speaker 4: new experiences.

1701
01:28:02,053 --> 01:28:05,213
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so yes, yeah, you're bringing them

1702
01:28:05,253 --> 01:28:07,253
Speaker 19: to mind. There's a lot more packed in there, isn't

1703
01:28:07,293 --> 01:28:09,653
Speaker 19: the area. Yeah, and you're probably going to be talking

1704
01:28:09,733 --> 01:28:13,373
Speaker 19: about that and remembering that and looking at photos of

1705
01:28:13,493 --> 01:28:16,853
Speaker 19: that and sending video clips back and back in the day,

1706
01:28:16,853 --> 01:28:18,213
Speaker 19: you'd write a postcard about it.

1707
01:28:18,373 --> 01:28:20,813
Speaker 6: So that's and that's all rehearsing in your memory.

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01:28:20,893 --> 01:28:23,133
Speaker 19: So you're all you know, you're bringing it every time

1709
01:28:23,173 --> 01:28:25,653
Speaker 19: you bring it to mind. It's sort of cementing if

1710
01:28:25,693 --> 01:28:28,133
Speaker 19: you like that memory a bit stronger into your head.

1711
01:28:29,333 --> 01:28:31,693
Speaker 19: So yeah, it sort of fits with that really, that

1712
01:28:32,133 --> 01:28:35,013
Speaker 19: those sort of new, unique things we tend to focus

1713
01:28:35,133 --> 01:28:37,813
Speaker 19: on and bring back to mind more and more and

1714
01:28:37,893 --> 01:28:40,373
Speaker 19: that just strengthens strengthens the memory of it.

1715
01:28:40,453 --> 01:28:42,733
Speaker 6: And yeah, and for the reminiscence bump that you know.

1716
01:28:44,133 --> 01:28:47,613
Speaker 4: Reminiscence bumpers as late teens, early twenties, as in your

1717
01:28:47,613 --> 01:28:50,573
Speaker 4: thirty seven Yeah, yeah, when.

1718
01:28:50,453 --> 01:28:52,613
Speaker 19: Life, you know, life perhaps doesn't quite have so many

1719
01:28:52,893 --> 01:28:54,493
Speaker 19: new and exciting things every day.

1720
01:28:54,733 --> 01:28:57,933
Speaker 6: No, no, you start, you start paying the mortgage.

1721
01:28:57,653 --> 01:29:00,053
Speaker 19: And having to do the vacuuming and clean the bathroom

1722
01:29:00,413 --> 01:29:05,133
Speaker 19: again and washing again, which don't aren't really particularly memorable

1723
01:29:05,533 --> 01:29:07,813
Speaker 19: or interesting, so we don't sort of tend to think

1724
01:29:07,853 --> 01:29:08,893
Speaker 19: about them or remember them.

1725
01:29:09,733 --> 01:29:11,893
Speaker 4: That's very interesting. Thank you so much to Hey.

1726
01:29:12,653 --> 01:29:15,453
Speaker 19: Before we go to I do have to say that

1727
01:29:16,853 --> 01:29:21,973
Speaker 19: I gleefully disregard rules of grammar and English and simply

1728
01:29:22,013 --> 01:29:23,093
Speaker 19: don't care about them at all.

1729
01:29:23,373 --> 01:29:23,573
Speaker 3: Good.

1730
01:29:24,053 --> 01:29:27,213
Speaker 4: I'm glad. I'm glad you're the first person to actually

1731
01:29:27,213 --> 01:29:29,453
Speaker 4: write in and say that this morning, to offer that up.

1732
01:29:29,533 --> 01:29:32,333
Speaker 4: I'm very pleased that someone has taken a contrarian position,

1733
01:29:32,413 --> 01:29:36,413
Speaker 4: because actually it's incredibly snobbish of the Wells to be

1734
01:29:36,493 --> 01:29:38,293
Speaker 4: sitting here all high and mighty. I mean, you go

1735
01:29:38,333 --> 01:29:40,293
Speaker 4: and look at Shakespeare's English, look at how much the

1736
01:29:40,413 --> 01:29:42,493
Speaker 4: language has changed in the last few hundred years, and

1737
01:29:42,853 --> 01:29:45,213
Speaker 4: you know, language is always morphing and evolving.

1738
01:29:45,493 --> 01:29:45,773
Speaker 20: It is.

1739
01:29:47,093 --> 01:29:48,813
Speaker 19: In my case, it dates back the fact that my

1740
01:29:48,893 --> 01:29:51,133
Speaker 19: mum was a speech teacher, so we always had.

1741
01:29:51,093 --> 01:29:54,093
Speaker 6: These rules sort of religiously drilled into us.

1742
01:29:54,733 --> 01:29:57,573
Speaker 19: And so part of my teenage rebellion was not caring

1743
01:29:57,733 --> 01:30:00,733
Speaker 19: about those rules, which wasn't really much of a rebellion

1744
01:30:00,813 --> 01:30:04,053
Speaker 19: at all, really. But no, but yeah, so I just

1745
01:30:04,093 --> 01:30:06,733
Speaker 19: don't I don't mind, really, but I appreciate the fact

1746
01:30:06,773 --> 01:30:07,373
Speaker 19: that some people do.

1747
01:30:07,693 --> 01:30:10,093
Speaker 4: Look, I can assure you that not just some people

1748
01:30:10,173 --> 01:30:11,693
Speaker 4: do many many people do this.

1749
01:30:12,093 --> 01:30:14,173
Speaker 6: It sounds like it from all the activity on the text.

1750
01:30:14,413 --> 01:30:16,573
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, hey, thank you so much. I have a

1751
01:30:16,573 --> 01:30:19,133
Speaker 4: great record catching ins a Google. Let us google Sutherland

1752
01:30:19,173 --> 01:30:22,693
Speaker 4: from Umbrella Well Being eighteen past eleven on news Talk ZB.

1753
01:30:25,053 --> 01:30:28,693
Speaker 2: Travel with Windy WO Tours Where the World is yours book?

1754
01:30:28,773 --> 01:30:32,613
Speaker 4: Now, well, Google Sutherland mightn't be bothered by usage eras

1755
01:30:32,653 --> 01:30:35,213
Speaker 4: from time to time. I feel like our travel correspondent

1756
01:30:35,253 --> 01:30:36,853
Speaker 4: Mike Yardley is going to be a man of higher

1757
01:30:36,893 --> 01:30:38,533
Speaker 4: standards on the language front.

1758
01:30:40,293 --> 01:30:44,053
Speaker 9: Oh well, I try, I try to keep the standards ubject.

1759
01:30:44,213 --> 01:30:45,533
Speaker 9: But hey, we're all mortal.

1760
01:30:46,333 --> 01:30:50,133
Speaker 4: What eras do you make the most because I will

1761
01:30:50,173 --> 01:30:52,053
Speaker 4: accept that I make errors from time to time, but

1762
01:30:52,293 --> 01:30:54,973
Speaker 4: it doesn't stop me from being utterly pretentious and telling

1763
01:30:55,053 --> 01:30:57,813
Speaker 4: off people when they've made errors as well, when they.

1764
01:30:57,853 --> 01:31:01,093
Speaker 21: Use less than instead of fewer than or you know,

1765
01:31:01,373 --> 01:31:06,253
Speaker 21: oh yes, yeah that do that does get my grill

1766
01:31:06,453 --> 01:31:09,533
Speaker 21: under my grill are the one I actually struggle with personally,

1767
01:31:10,173 --> 01:31:12,733
Speaker 21: which I I don't know why I seem to have

1768
01:31:12,813 --> 01:31:13,413
Speaker 21: a block on this.

1769
01:31:14,053 --> 01:31:17,573
Speaker 9: The is in the R I often use them incorrectly

1770
01:31:17,733 --> 01:31:21,493
Speaker 9: in in terms of plural. Yeah, that's a very basic mistake.

1771
01:31:21,733 --> 01:31:24,973
Speaker 4: That's interesting really. No, well yeah, but I mean obviously

1772
01:31:25,133 --> 01:31:27,053
Speaker 4: it's not like you don't actually understand it and you

1773
01:31:27,133 --> 01:31:28,973
Speaker 4: can't think about it. But it's just your brain in

1774
01:31:29,053 --> 01:31:31,493
Speaker 4: the moment when you're speaking sometimes plays a little trip.

1775
01:31:31,653 --> 01:31:33,093
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah it does.

1776
01:31:33,453 --> 01:31:36,853
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Okay. Anyway, this morning we are focusing on

1777
01:31:37,413 --> 01:31:41,653
Speaker 4: road tripping through Ireland's hidden heartland. So what exactly are

1778
01:31:41,733 --> 01:31:44,853
Speaker 4: the hidden heartlands? Are we talking under the radar places?

1779
01:31:46,253 --> 01:31:48,813
Speaker 9: Yes, we are, and I thought we would round off

1780
01:31:48,853 --> 01:31:50,693
Speaker 9: the year Jack by taking a bit of a roading

1781
01:31:50,773 --> 01:31:55,173
Speaker 9: through island and those hidden heartlands. They are the interior counties,

1782
01:31:55,733 --> 01:32:00,813
Speaker 9: lesser trafficked places like County Leitrim, Sligo, Rosscommon and they

1783
01:32:00,813 --> 01:32:03,893
Speaker 9: are just such a world away from your big banner

1784
01:32:03,933 --> 01:32:07,893
Speaker 9: destinations like Dublin and Galway. And what I love about

1785
01:32:07,933 --> 01:32:11,893
Speaker 9: the Heartlands is it's the history, the story traditions that

1786
01:32:12,173 --> 01:32:16,453
Speaker 9: still beat so strong in these places. So yeah, if

1787
01:32:16,493 --> 01:32:18,853
Speaker 9: you want to dabble with the emerald dial at a slower,

1788
01:32:18,973 --> 01:32:21,733
Speaker 9: more scenic pace, Hello Heartlands.

1789
01:32:22,013 --> 01:32:24,733
Speaker 4: Nice You hit the road in an EV, so how

1790
01:32:24,853 --> 01:32:26,893
Speaker 4: well equipped is Ireland with charging points?

1791
01:32:28,453 --> 01:32:28,693
Speaker 19: Yes?

1792
01:32:28,813 --> 01:32:32,933
Speaker 9: I ended up hiring a pure electric Mercedes Suv. It

1793
01:32:33,093 --> 01:32:35,773
Speaker 9: was a hulking beast of a thing, but was EV

1794
01:32:36,573 --> 01:32:39,493
Speaker 9: and it was the first time I've actually extensively traveled

1795
01:32:40,093 --> 01:32:43,773
Speaker 9: around any country in an EV, so, as I'm sure

1796
01:32:43,813 --> 01:32:46,453
Speaker 9: you can appreciate, Jack. For me, range anxiety was an

1797
01:32:46,453 --> 01:32:50,493
Speaker 9: immediate concern, but Ireland has really charged a head with

1798
01:32:50,573 --> 01:32:53,973
Speaker 9: its roll out of charging stations, way better than New Zealand.

1799
01:32:55,453 --> 01:32:57,933
Speaker 9: So with a bit of Ford planning to tie in

1800
01:32:58,493 --> 01:33:02,093
Speaker 9: your recharge with your sight seeing schedule, it was very manageable.

1801
01:33:02,333 --> 01:33:04,933
Speaker 9: The only thing that surprised me though, was I was

1802
01:33:05,053 --> 01:33:09,133
Speaker 9: comparing the recharge costs to petrol costs and there's not

1803
01:33:09,253 --> 01:33:12,733
Speaker 9: actually much difference. EV charging was not cheaper.

1804
01:33:13,013 --> 01:33:13,853
Speaker 4: Oh that's interesting?

1805
01:33:14,253 --> 01:33:14,533
Speaker 3: Really?

1806
01:33:15,133 --> 01:33:15,453
Speaker 6: Is that just?

1807
01:33:15,573 --> 01:33:15,773
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1808
01:33:15,773 --> 01:33:17,013
Speaker 4: It must have been an Ireland thing.

1809
01:33:18,133 --> 01:33:20,693
Speaker 9: Maybe they're just ripping ev users off.

1810
01:33:21,933 --> 01:33:24,013
Speaker 4: How much how much would it would it cost you

1811
01:33:24,093 --> 01:33:26,733
Speaker 4: to fill the you know, to recharge your battery to

1812
01:33:26,853 --> 01:33:27,733
Speaker 4: eighty percent or whatever.

1813
01:33:28,733 --> 01:33:32,133
Speaker 9: Yeah, generally it was costing me anywhere between twenty and

1814
01:33:32,253 --> 01:33:37,133
Speaker 9: thirty euro right so now yeah, yeah, and that was

1815
01:33:37,333 --> 01:33:39,533
Speaker 9: like maybe for three hundred and fifty.

1816
01:33:39,293 --> 01:33:41,893
Speaker 4: K, yes, six three hundred k.

1817
01:33:42,293 --> 01:33:45,253
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it didn't It didn't strike me as cheap.

1818
01:33:45,613 --> 01:33:48,493
Speaker 4: No, that's very interesting. So anyway, you're on the road,

1819
01:33:48,573 --> 01:33:50,133
Speaker 4: what led you to drum Shambo?

1820
01:33:52,253 --> 01:33:55,173
Speaker 9: Great question, it's the question of the year. What the

1821
01:33:55,293 --> 01:33:59,933
Speaker 9: hell did you go to drum Shambo? So from Dublin,

1822
01:34:00,013 --> 01:34:03,573
Speaker 9: I headed Western County, leaked from and drum Shambo is

1823
01:34:03,653 --> 01:34:08,173
Speaker 9: this resolutely Irish village which has father Ted connections, which

1824
01:34:08,213 --> 01:34:11,853
Speaker 9: I am a major sucker for. But drum Shambo's berg

1825
01:34:11,973 --> 01:34:16,773
Speaker 9: claim to fame is its namesake gin drum Shambo gunpowder

1826
01:34:16,893 --> 01:34:20,933
Speaker 9: Irish gin and hoovers up so many global awards. Jack

1827
01:34:21,013 --> 01:34:25,373
Speaker 9: people just go gaga on this gin. So it's produced

1828
01:34:25,413 --> 01:34:28,093
Speaker 9: at a place called the Shed Distillery, and I know

1829
01:34:28,333 --> 01:34:32,093
Speaker 9: that distilleries for some are becoming a bit to a penny,

1830
01:34:32,213 --> 01:34:35,773
Speaker 9: but this distillery is such a splendid establishment, and the

1831
01:34:35,973 --> 01:34:40,573
Speaker 9: gin is a fusion of Asian and Irish botanical so

1832
01:34:40,613 --> 01:34:44,053
Speaker 9: it includes things like Chinese gun bout tea, which is

1833
01:34:44,573 --> 01:34:49,133
Speaker 9: that very strong, green, smoky tea, and that certainly gives

1834
01:34:49,733 --> 01:34:52,493
Speaker 9: the gin quite the kick. So yeah, definitely head to

1835
01:34:52,533 --> 01:34:54,093
Speaker 9: the shed. It is just fantastic.

1836
01:34:54,493 --> 01:34:58,213
Speaker 4: Aside from the scenic countryside are their roadside curiosities in

1837
01:34:58,253 --> 01:34:59,293
Speaker 4: the heartlands.

1838
01:35:00,093 --> 01:35:03,133
Speaker 9: So many popping up all over the place. Two particular

1839
01:35:03,893 --> 01:35:08,733
Speaker 9: recurring themes. First of all, holy wells, so they are

1840
01:35:08,853 --> 01:35:12,373
Speaker 9: generally named after a local saint and the local swear

1841
01:35:12,493 --> 01:35:15,533
Speaker 9: by their powers. Jack so I think we went to

1842
01:35:16,293 --> 01:35:20,093
Speaker 9: Saint Lucia as well, and the funny thing was so

1843
01:35:20,253 --> 01:35:23,973
Speaker 9: many local students had laid pens by the well and

1844
01:35:24,093 --> 01:35:27,533
Speaker 9: the hope of some divine assistance with their upcoming school exams.

1845
01:35:29,093 --> 01:35:32,253
Speaker 9: The other thing in the heartlands, which is quite the marvel,

1846
01:35:32,613 --> 01:35:36,613
Speaker 9: the megalithic sites. My goodness, Island has so many of them,

1847
01:35:36,733 --> 01:35:42,813
Speaker 9: and they are enormous, these massive stone monuments and burial chambers.

1848
01:35:42,813 --> 01:35:46,533
Speaker 9: They're like complexes of tombs. A lot of them are

1849
01:35:46,573 --> 01:35:48,813
Speaker 9: over five thousand years old, so are we're talking older

1850
01:35:48,853 --> 01:35:52,213
Speaker 9: than the Pyramids of Geezer or Stonehenge. And the funny

1851
01:35:52,293 --> 01:35:54,373
Speaker 9: thing is, I know this is a bit sacrilegious, but

1852
01:35:54,453 --> 01:35:58,013
Speaker 9: many local farmers have actually repurposed some of these really

1853
01:35:58,053 --> 01:35:59,893
Speaker 9: old stones to prop up their fences.

1854
01:36:00,773 --> 01:36:03,533
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, are very good. So were's good for a

1855
01:36:03,693 --> 01:36:04,533
Speaker 4: castle stay?

1856
01:36:05,813 --> 01:36:06,053
Speaker 10: Yes.

1857
01:36:06,533 --> 01:36:10,933
Speaker 9: County Rosscommon is home to Kilronan Castle, which is a

1858
01:36:11,053 --> 01:36:15,693
Speaker 9: fantastically affordable and escapist castle stay. Its history dates back

1859
01:36:15,733 --> 01:36:18,213
Speaker 9: to the sixteen hundreds, but the castle actually fell into

1860
01:36:19,013 --> 01:36:23,093
Speaker 9: really extreme decline like that. The roof was actually removed

1861
01:36:23,533 --> 01:36:26,613
Speaker 9: from the castle to avoid high taxes at one point.

1862
01:36:26,693 --> 01:36:30,253
Speaker 9: But about twenty years ago millions of euros was put

1863
01:36:30,293 --> 01:36:34,453
Speaker 9: into what has been a tip to toe Neo Gothic restoration,

1864
01:36:34,573 --> 01:36:37,413
Speaker 9: so it is just ravishing. So yeah, if you're fancy

1865
01:36:37,453 --> 01:36:41,013
Speaker 9: adding a little touch of Irish castle magic to your trip,

1866
01:36:41,133 --> 01:36:42,773
Speaker 9: kill Ronan gets the big tick.

1867
01:36:42,973 --> 01:36:43,213
Speaker 3: Nice.

1868
01:36:43,373 --> 01:36:45,493
Speaker 4: I see you went to Sligo. Is that where the

1869
01:36:45,613 --> 01:36:46,573
Speaker 4: seaweed bars are?

1870
01:36:47,773 --> 01:36:50,813
Speaker 9: Oh my goodness, Jack, Yes, So the County of Sligo

1871
01:36:50,893 --> 01:36:54,293
Speaker 9: stretches right out to the Atlantic coastline and there is

1872
01:36:54,373 --> 01:36:57,173
Speaker 9: this little seaside town called Strantil, which is home to

1873
01:36:57,253 --> 01:37:01,893
Speaker 9: the Voyer Seaweed Barths. These guys have caused a lot

1874
01:37:01,973 --> 01:37:04,813
Speaker 9: of buzz in recent years because they have revived the

1875
01:37:04,933 --> 01:37:07,853
Speaker 9: Celtic tradition of seaweed bathing. If you go back one

1876
01:37:07,893 --> 01:37:10,333
Speaker 9: hundred and twenty years ago, for example, apparently there will

1877
01:37:10,453 --> 01:37:14,693
Speaker 9: one hundred seaweed bath houses all along the west coast

1878
01:37:14,733 --> 01:37:15,213
Speaker 9: of Ireland.

1879
01:37:15,453 --> 01:37:15,693
Speaker 4: Wow.

1880
01:37:16,853 --> 01:37:20,533
Speaker 9: So at Voyeur they hand harvest fresh seaweed from the

1881
01:37:20,653 --> 01:37:25,413
Speaker 9: ocean in Strandhill. It's all very organical, wild and I

1882
01:37:25,573 --> 01:37:29,733
Speaker 9: spent an hour marinating myself in this hot, gloopy bath

1883
01:37:29,853 --> 01:37:33,893
Speaker 9: of seaweed because it oozes this like gel like substance.

1884
01:37:33,933 --> 01:37:36,653
Speaker 9: It's the most bizarre thing, but I felt like a

1885
01:37:36,733 --> 01:37:40,133
Speaker 9: new man Jack. And the bath house is such a

1886
01:37:40,213 --> 01:37:43,253
Speaker 9: solid hangout. The Irish rugby team can't get enough at

1887
01:37:43,293 --> 01:37:45,293
Speaker 9: this place. That's where they go to, you know, sort

1888
01:37:45,333 --> 01:37:50,253
Speaker 9: of recover. And apparently it's the irodne content and seaweed

1889
01:37:50,333 --> 01:37:54,293
Speaker 9: that makes it such a great detoxifier. Yeah, really interesting.

1890
01:37:54,493 --> 01:37:57,133
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, oh very nice. Did you smell afterwards or

1891
01:37:57,253 --> 01:37:57,373
Speaker 4: was it?

1892
01:37:57,973 --> 01:38:01,413
Speaker 9: Oh my god, yeah, I smelled like the Atlantic really, Brian.

1893
01:38:01,973 --> 01:38:06,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, um yeah. Jumping straight back on a plane

1894
01:38:06,493 --> 01:38:10,853
Speaker 4: we did four hours. Well, what about Sligo Town itself.

1895
01:38:12,093 --> 01:38:15,533
Speaker 9: I'm in love with this town. It's not a tourist infection,

1896
01:38:15,813 --> 01:38:19,333
Speaker 9: which is its magic. It's the real deal. So you've

1897
01:38:19,373 --> 01:38:23,773
Speaker 9: got this compact, charismatic and colorful town with a whrde

1898
01:38:23,773 --> 01:38:27,973
Speaker 9: of quintessential pubs that just burst with trad sessions. And

1899
01:38:28,053 --> 01:38:29,893
Speaker 9: the other thing which really struck me in the main

1900
01:38:29,973 --> 01:38:33,173
Speaker 9: street all of these gorgeous old school shops like the

1901
01:38:33,293 --> 01:38:37,813
Speaker 9: Gentlemen drapers and the watchmakers, and they've remained going concerns

1902
01:38:38,373 --> 01:38:40,813
Speaker 9: for well over a century, handed down through the family,

1903
01:38:41,253 --> 01:38:45,333
Speaker 9: and they just seem immune to the fickle whims of retail.

1904
01:38:45,813 --> 01:38:49,413
Speaker 9: And I just think that adds to Sligo's really stout spirit.

1905
01:38:50,093 --> 01:38:52,493
Speaker 9: Definitely add that town to your checklist.

1906
01:38:52,573 --> 01:38:55,253
Speaker 4: Oh very good. That sounds fantastic. Thank you so much, Mike.

1907
01:38:55,773 --> 01:38:58,533
Speaker 4: We will put all of Mike's tips on tripping through

1908
01:38:58,613 --> 01:39:01,493
Speaker 4: Ireland's hidden heartlands up on the news Doorks. He'd be

1909
01:39:01,573 --> 01:39:05,533
Speaker 4: website newsborks'b dot co dot nz. Right now, it is

1910
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Speaker 4: eleven thirty.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack team

1912
01:39:15,533 --> 01:39:16,373
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1913
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Speaker 10: B everyoying gasoline onto the far.

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1915
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Speaker 18: Sclats when our artis Nick in the.

1916
01:39:30,293 --> 01:39:34,093
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Speaker 4: to the Derby this afternoon, Auckland f C and the

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Speaker 4: Wellington Phoenix. But we should begin with the news from

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Speaker 4: from what eight o'clock this morning? Piney? What do you

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Speaker 4: make of the all white pool for the Football World Cup?

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Speaker 4: Could I jack?

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I think a good one, you know, as an

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Speaker 22: outcome that I think. You look at it and you say, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 22: look at those teams Belgium, Iran and Egypt. It's not

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Speaker 22: a group of death by any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 22: And a forty eight ten World Cup, you know, really

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Speaker 22: they're arm Tenny. But what you look at is you'll

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Speaker 22: look at teams who came out of Pots two and three,

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Speaker 22: Iran and Egypt, and you say, okay, I think there

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Speaker 22: are results to be had there for New Zealand. They

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Speaker 22: won't be favorite, absolutely they won't. And every other team

1933
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Speaker 22: in that group will look at New Zealand and say,

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Speaker 22: well there's three points for a start. So maybe that

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Speaker 22: works in our favor, But look, I think there's a

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Speaker 22: lot to like about it. They were always going to

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Speaker 22: get a bigger team out of Pot one, and Belgium's fine,

1938
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Speaker 22: it's a bit of a free hit.

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Speaker 4: It's their last game.

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Speaker 22: They play Iran first, then Egypt and then Belgium last.

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Speaker 22: Those first two games obviously are the ones that you

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Speaker 22: want to try and get. They'll totally believe that they

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Speaker 22: can get a win and another result in those two

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Speaker 22: even if they come through the Iran game with a

1945
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Speaker 22: drawer and set themselves up against Egypt, who are thirty

1946
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Speaker 22: fourth in the world have never won a game at

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Speaker 22: a World Cup. They do have Muhammad Salah. Let's not

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Speaker 22: forget that handy player. But I think if you have

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Speaker 22: a above it and look down, you say, that's a

1950
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Speaker 22: pretty good drawer. Darren Basely's on the show after midday.

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Speaker 22: We'll see what he thinks. I think, you know, he'll

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Speaker 22: probably be of the same mind that it could have

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Speaker 22: been a heck of a lot worse. They've avoided South

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Speaker 22: American opposition, and they've avoided being one of the four

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Speaker 22: groups that has two European teams in it, which is

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Speaker 22: always going to be tough. So yeah, I think as

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Speaker 22: an outcome, it were forty eighth team out Jack, I

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Speaker 22: thought they'd forgotten about it.

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Speaker 4: I know, I was starting to think that. I think

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Speaker 4: that as well. It was my one experience that was,

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Speaker 4: oh my goodness. Anyway, So I actually think there's one

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Speaker 4: really underappreciated component with it all this morning, and that

1963
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Speaker 4: is the location of the Yes, really it could not

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Speaker 4: be better. The fact that we're doing these on the

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Speaker 4: West Coast. So you are one flight away from New

1966
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Speaker 4: Zealand right LA and Vancouver, one flight away Seattle. You've

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Speaker 4: got to have a connecting flight. It's not far from

1968
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Speaker 4: vene an hour and a half year drive. I mean,

1969
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Speaker 4: it's super close. But we could have been playing these

1970
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Speaker 4: in Mexico, which would have been more complex for New

1971
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Speaker 4: Zealand fans. There are already heaps of kiwis based on

1972
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Speaker 4: that West Coast. I think that is really I think

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Speaker 4: if you if you consider that, and you consider the

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Speaker 4: teams were up against, I don't think we could have

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Speaker 4: had a better outcome. I totally agree.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I totally agree, and you're right it all it

1977
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Speaker 22: just seems so much more accessible, itesn't it. The West

1978
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Speaker 22: Coast direct flights that sort of thing. We find out

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Speaker 22: tomorrow the exact locations of the three games, but those

1980
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Speaker 22: are the three cities allocated to our group. So yeah,

1981
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Speaker 22: look Howard Johnson's and Anaheim will be filling out with

1982
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Speaker 22: just across the road from Disneyland. Looking forward to it

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Speaker 22: in June already.

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Speaker 4: So Darren Basley this afternoon you counted down to the

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Speaker 4: derby as well.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, got both coaches on the show after two Steve

1987
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Speaker 22: Corriker and Joan Colo will tell you understand, Yeah pop

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Speaker 22: in on the way to the game. So he's going

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Speaker 22: to do that. So quite a bit of football this afternoon,

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Speaker 22: but a cricket as well. This ongoing conundrum around our

1991
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Speaker 22: domestic T twenty comp the NZED twenty we heard from

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Speaker 22: Don McKinnon a couple of weeks ago. This afternoon, Richard

1993
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Speaker 22: Petree is going to be on the show. He's one

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Speaker 22: of the signatories to a letter which was sent during

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Speaker 22: the week opposing this n Z twenty. So I want

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Speaker 22: to get both sides of the story, so we'll sad

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Speaker 22: about that. Heaps of live sport as well, including the

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Speaker 22: fourth the fifth day for the first test, that's the

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Speaker 22: fifth day to day. It's the fifth day to day. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 22: it started on started on Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: What's the day today? Saturday? Yeah, this is Thursday Western.

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Speaker 22: He's a four down and digging in. When he's six wickets,

2003
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Speaker 22: they probably won't get the runs. But and then there's

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Speaker 22: the Ozzie Golf Open Hill here and Fox both there. Yeah,

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Speaker 22: lots to lots to look forward to the stuff and.

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Speaker 4: Good looking forward to it, thank you, sir. Chasm Pie

2007
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Speaker 4: with us for weekend sport right after the midday News.

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Speaker 4: Before that will take you to Australia where our music

2009
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Speaker 4: reviewers enjoined Kendrick Lamar, Lady Gaga and the Good Things Festival.

2010
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Speaker 4: Next up, your book picks for this weekend twenty two to.

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Speaker 1: Twelve Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talks b.

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Speaker 4: Twee to twelve on News Talks. He'd be Katherine Rains,

2014
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Speaker 4: our book reviewer, is here with her reads to recommend

2015
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Speaker 4: this weekend. Hey Catherine, Hey Jack. We're going to begin

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Speaker 4: with a new book by Sam Dalrymple. It's called Chattered

2017
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Speaker 4: Lands and it's a history of modern South Asia told

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Speaker 4: through five different partitions.

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Speaker 3: In that name.

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Speaker 4: Dal Rymple will be very familiar to fans of history

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Speaker 4: around India.

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Speaker 20: That's right, because his father William writes a lot of

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Speaker 20: history around this area. And Sam's taken on the story

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Speaker 20: of the Indian Empire and how this single dominion becomes

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Speaker 20: twelve nations and how the maps, you know, and boardrooms

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Speaker 20: and battlefields and politicians and kings and all of the

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Speaker 20: soldiers and all of the people that change this and

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Speaker 20: resulted in the formation of the twelve states that we

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Speaker 20: see today. And it does cover five partitions. It starts

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Speaker 20: in the British Raj and begins with Aiden and Burma

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Speaker 20: and then being separated from the Indian Empire, and then

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Speaker 20: ending up in the West and East now Bangladesh and

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Speaker 20: Pakistan's division. And it begins with the partition of Burma,

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Speaker 20: and that's sort of where the nationalism sort of rears

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Speaker 20: its sort of blood thirsty head, I guess, and proceeds

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Speaker 20: through that partitioning of the Arabian Raj and then dealing

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Speaker 20: with the Petition as we kind of know it now

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Speaker 20: and ending in nineteen seventy one. And you get lots

2039
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Speaker 20: of narrative and here Darwymp has gone through and to

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Speaker 20: interview and diaries and first hand accounts and really tries

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Speaker 20: to sort almost personalize that that narrative, and it's really

2042
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Speaker 20: violent what happens. And there's really three figures I think

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Speaker 20: that stand out. There was Jena and Mount Bounton and

2044
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Speaker 20: Patel and Gena Cuts, this real tragic figure and his

2045
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Speaker 20: personal and political life. And then there's shadier Patel, who

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Speaker 20: just was peirs to actually be just an awful man.

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Speaker 20: And then Mount Badden, who history has probably been kind

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Speaker 20: to in this book really isn't and how he divided

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Speaker 20: the empire, and lots of stuff that he did could

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Speaker 20: have been avoided and certainly less bloodshed, and you know,

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Speaker 20: have you dealt with things with a little bit more

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Speaker 20: foresight and empathy. And it's really interesting the past and

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Speaker 20: the regions and the boundaries. And I have to admit

2054
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Speaker 20: this is not a subject that I am well versed in,

2055
01:45:55,693 --> 01:45:59,973
Speaker 20: but I found it fascinating and the research seems really outstanding,

2056
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Speaker 20: and the start of writings similar to his dad's. You know,

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Speaker 20: it's you know, that narration and feels like you just

2058
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Speaker 20: kind of going. It never feels like a dry history

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Speaker 20: or reading a textbook. It's fascinating.

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Speaker 4: Oh, very good. Okay, that's Shattered Lands by Sam Drymple.

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Speaker 4: Next up The Air Apparent by Rebecca Armitage.

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Speaker 20: So for something completely different. This novel uses some very

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01:46:20,733 --> 01:46:24,173
Speaker 20: loose reference to some historical figures and it centers on

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Speaker 20: this girl, Leslie Villas, and she's built this life in Tasmania.

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Speaker 20: She's working as a trainee doctor and sharing a home

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Speaker 20: with her friends and sort of living a reasonably good life.

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Speaker 20: But actually her brother, her twin brother, is the heir

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Speaker 20: to the British throne once her father passes, and so

2069
01:46:42,573 --> 01:46:44,893
Speaker 20: while she's in the middle of a residency, the real

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Speaker 20: unthinkable happens and her father and brother are killed in

2071
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Speaker 20: a tragic accident, and she finds herself returning to England

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Speaker 20: as the heir to the throne, and her grandmother gives

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Speaker 20: her twelve months to decide whether she should take the

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Speaker 20: crown or return to her life. And there's all sorts

2075
01:46:59,853 --> 01:47:02,253
Speaker 20: of great characters in here. There's an uncle who's desperate

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01:47:02,333 --> 01:47:04,413
Speaker 20: to take over and will do anything. There's a sister

2077
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Speaker 20: in law with a devastating secret of course, a palace

2078
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Speaker 20: full of trichery and rumor, and there's lots of family

2079
01:47:11,293 --> 01:47:15,173
Speaker 20: drama and mystery and characters and lots of the stories

2080
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Speaker 20: told with the kind of flashbacks and times, and it's

2081
01:47:17,653 --> 01:47:21,613
Speaker 20: a really good tale, and it's got wit and humor

2082
01:47:21,853 --> 01:47:25,013
Speaker 20: and the spectacle of the monarchy and this alternate British

2083
01:47:25,093 --> 01:47:28,653
Speaker 20: royal family where at least half the members you could

2084
01:47:28,693 --> 01:47:31,293
Speaker 20: probably pack as to who their real life counterpart will be.

2085
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Speaker 20: And I didn't think. I went into this with kind

2086
01:47:34,493 --> 01:47:37,453
Speaker 20: of like, oh yeah, okay, I'm not sure about this,

2087
01:47:37,853 --> 01:47:40,693
Speaker 20: And I was surprisingly hooked by this novel. And the

2088
01:47:40,773 --> 01:47:44,573
Speaker 20: writing's brilliant and interesting and this great human story. It's

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01:47:44,733 --> 01:47:45,453
Speaker 20: well worth a read.

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Speaker 4: Oh very good. Okay, So that's the Heir Apparent by

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Speaker 4: Rebecca Armitage. Catherine's first book, Shattered Lands by Sam d

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Speaker 4: Rymple a likes. She interviewed William d Rymple, his father,

2093
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Speaker 4: a few weeks ago. You can see that on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: It's like, William d Rymple is just such an amazing communicator.

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Speaker 4: So if Sam is anything like his old man, I'm

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01:48:03,373 --> 01:48:07,173
Speaker 4: sure that Shattered Lands is an amazing, amazing book. As

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Speaker 4: well as as well as writing, of course, he hosts

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Speaker 4: of the Empire podcast, which has to be one of

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Speaker 4: my all time favorites. Right at A six eight to

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Speaker 4: twelve on News Talks. It'd be our music correspondent has

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Speaker 4: whipped across to Australia for the craziest week of concerts.

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Speaker 4: He's well us next giving.

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Speaker 2: You the inside scoop on All you Need to Know

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Speaker 2: Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be.

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Speaker 10: When You're One, Tony as Witches, the Sun.

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Speaker 4: As Fun and John You Dog thirteen to twelve. That's

2108
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Speaker 4: Weezer Island in the Sun Now. Music reviewer Chris Schultz

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Speaker 4: has been in a Weezer frame of mind over the

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Speaker 4: last couple of days as they perform at the Good

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Speaker 4: Things Music Festival in Australia. But Chris has the craziest

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Speaker 4: week because Good Things isn't the only thing he's attending.

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Speaker 4: He's with us now, Chris run us through the week.

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Speaker 23: It's been pretty wild. It started with the Kendrick Lamar

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Speaker 23: Stadium spectacle and then he played another one the night

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Speaker 23: after which I also got to go and see Dolci

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Speaker 23: open for that show, one of the year's most exciting

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Speaker 23: new artists. And then yesterday, Yeah, Good Things Festival. It's

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Speaker 23: only one of three festivals that are on in this

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Speaker 23: insane week. There are also two Lady Gaga Stadium shows

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Speaker 23: as well, and a whole bunch of other smaller side

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Speaker 23: shows from those events. So yeah, it's it's a week

2123
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Speaker 23: like Noah, I am over here in Australia for that week,

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Speaker 23: and don't get me wrong, it is a heck.

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Speaker 6: Of a lot of fun.

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Speaker 23: I have had so much fun that I am going

2127
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Speaker 23: to have to throw my shoes out. They are ruined.

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Speaker 23: I need to get new shoes today.

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Speaker 9: But there's a serious side to this too, right because all.

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Speaker 23: Year we've seen all of these acts bypass New Zealand

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Speaker 23: in favor of doing these exclusive Australian trips, and so

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Speaker 23: going to Australia traveling for concerts is something we've had

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Speaker 23: to become accustom to. Music fans have had to do

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Speaker 23: this if they want to see these major acts. And

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Speaker 23: I can give you the list, you know, It's Kylie Mino,

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Speaker 23: Katie Perry, ACDC, Green.

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Speaker 6: Day, Billie Eilish.

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Speaker 23: The list goes on and on, and we're all sort

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Speaker 23: of like, we're still talking about the impact this one

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Speaker 23: Metallica show had in Auckland.

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Speaker 3: Just last month.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, there's still stories being written about the impact that

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Speaker 23: had on on businesses, on the economy, on hotels and

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Speaker 23: restaurants and it's just in Melbourne. It's just keeping going.

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Speaker 3: It's wild.

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Speaker 23: Really, it's just a whole week that's kind of unprecedented

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Speaker 23: that we're not getting any of.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it is pretty stark when you

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Speaker 4: read out that list of artists and when you consider

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Speaker 4: what you've experienced in just the last couple of days.

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Speaker 4: So you going to Lady Gaga tonight?

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Speaker 23: I am seeing the Lady Gaga Stadium Spectacle tonight.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 23: I think it's at Marvel Stadium, which is like eighty

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Speaker 23: thousand people. A friend of mine was there last night.

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Speaker 23: He messaged me on one text message it said greatest

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Speaker 23: night in my life. So a lot to live up

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Speaker 23: to there. It's also jack like something happened on Wednesday

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Speaker 23: that first Kendrick Lamar show. Louise Upston Our Tourism Minister

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Speaker 23: announced a suite of concerts and festivals that are coming

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Speaker 23: to New Zealand. The government is trying to do something

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Speaker 23: about this. They've launched this major event. They're trying to

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Speaker 23: entice major artists back. And the first recipients so that

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Speaker 23: were six sixty and Cinconny to open Ta Kaha the

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Speaker 23: new stadium in christ Church and a Lincoln Park show

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Speaker 23: for Auckland and the thirtm Festival for Wellington Ultra Festival.

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Speaker 23: But the timing of that really struck me. You know,

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Speaker 23: I just landed in Melbourne and I was about to

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Speaker 23: go to Kendrick Lamar and I saw that come through

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Speaker 23: and like, that's great. It's really good news that they've

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Speaker 23: recognized us as a problem. They're doing something about it.

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Speaker 23: But it's too little, too late for these shows that

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Speaker 23: already locked in for Australia.

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Speaker 4: Well, what's interesting, I think is that if you think

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Speaker 4: about the economics of the music industry at large today,

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Speaker 4: clearly in the streaming era, the ways in which artists

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Speaker 4: make money and make a livelihood, the balance has shifted right.

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Speaker 4: So whereas in the past that they would have made

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Speaker 4: a larger proportion of their income from selling records, these days,

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Speaker 4: given they famously get such pitiful sums from the big streamers,

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Speaker 4: many more artists are putting on these huge shows as

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Speaker 4: they're kind of primary source of income and going on

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Speaker 4: these big world these huge world tours and these big

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Speaker 4: stadium tours. It's a real kind of trend for the

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Speaker 4: world's biggest artists. And so if new Zealand isn't able

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Speaker 4: to reverse the current position and isn't able to actually

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Speaker 4: entice a few more of these artists, it's going to

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Speaker 4: be a real issue.

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Speaker 23: I think, well, I think you know that Metallica shows

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Speaker 23: the great example, right, Like the city's maxed out, it

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Speaker 23: feels exciting, everyone's out and about and it just has

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Speaker 23: this kind of lift everyone feels. I don't know, it's

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Speaker 23: just it's kind of exciting. It's kind of cool when

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Speaker 23: when these major artists come through. But you're right, stadiums

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Speaker 23: are the currency these massive acts are trading in now,

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Speaker 23: and because it's so expensive to tour, these stage setups

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Speaker 23: are just ginormous.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 23: I saw this at the Kendrick Lamar show. There's huge

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Speaker 23: screens and and he's got these he's got he's got

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Speaker 23: a car on stage, he's got these giant steps that

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Speaker 23: he's sitting on and performing off, and then there's pyro

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Speaker 23: and fireworks going off constantly. Like these are expensive shows

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Speaker 23: to put on and bringing that down to New Zealand

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Speaker 23: is tricky. That's one of the things the government is

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Speaker 23: trying to help out with and address there. So I

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Speaker 23: can understand why they're not coming. But you know, most

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Speaker 23: of these acts have been to New Zealand before, they've

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Speaker 23: played before. You know, I really hope this is just

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Speaker 23: a blip, that we've recognized it, and that you know,

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Speaker 23: in the coming years we'll get back on that touring

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Speaker 23: map and we'll be able to see them again. And

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Speaker 23: I don't have to keep coming to Australia because it's

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Speaker 23: a lot more expensive, don't.

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Speaker 4: Say, especially when you've got to buy a new pair

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Speaker 4: of shoes. Hey, thank you so much. Have a wonderful

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Speaker 4: time at Gaga to and I make sure you hydrate lots,

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Speaker 4: and we look forward to hearing if indeed Gaga Stadium

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Speaker 4: Tour makes for one of the best nights of you

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Speaker 4: and life as well. That is Chris Shultz, our music reviewer.

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Speaker 4: His substack is boiler Room. Of course, we'll be back

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Speaker 4: in a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 2: A cracking way to start your Saturday. Saturday morning with

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Speaker 2: Jack Team news talks.

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Speaker 4: Ev Iran, Egypt and Belgium. That's who the All Whites

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Speaker 4: will be facing in the pool play of next year's

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Speaker 4: FIFA World Cup. After the draw was held in Washington,

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Speaker 4: DC this morning. Darren Baisley, the All Whites coach, is

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Speaker 4: going to be on Weekend Sport right after the midday

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Speaker 4: news chatting with Jason pine We'll get his take on

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Speaker 4: how he thinks that draw is shaping up from the

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Speaker 4: all Whites perspective, what the chances are likely to be,

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Speaker 4: and of course Piney will be counting down to the

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Speaker 4: A League Derby this afternoon. The Phoenix and Auckland FC,

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Speaker 4: Until then, I'm gonna leave you with Lady Garga. This

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Speaker 10: You have rets of Jesus the Lasting? How bad do

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