1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: The Reserve Bank has finally dropped a double cuts, taking 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: the official cash rate to two point five percent. The 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: bank says it's also open to further reductions. Jared Kerr 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: is key we Bank's chief economist. 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 2: Hi, Jared, good evening. 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean some of us were expecting it, but it's 7 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: still surprising. 8 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: Were you surprised, No, we weren't. We thought it was 9 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: needed and the Reserve Bank has finally sort of realized that, Yeah, hey, 10 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: look we need to take in straight into stimatory territory 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: and here we are. 12 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Will it give us the confidence to spend like they 13 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: hope it will. 14 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: It'll certainly help. Yeah, it'll certainly help, and we expect 15 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: things to pick up over summer as a result of 16 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: these rate cuts. Yeah. 17 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Are you still expecting twenty five in November? 18 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: Heah, we are. I don't think the job's done just 19 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: quite just yet. It'd be great to get the cash 20 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: right down to two and a quarter and then we'll 21 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: think about whether we need it to go down to 22 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: two in February. It'll all come down the house. Things 23 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: play out over summer. 24 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: Are you seeing this as an acknowledgment that they got 25 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: it wrong? 26 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, they told us they didn't need to cut 27 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: further earlier in the year, and here they are cutting further. 28 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: So it's disappointing that this two and a half percent 29 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: cash rate wasn't delivered six months ago because it would 30 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: have fed through by now. But we've got it today 31 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: and it's going to feed through over the next six months. 32 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: So would you because we had a double cut in 33 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: what was it, February? So would you have actually double 34 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: cut again in April? 35 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, that's what we were calling for. We've been 36 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: calling for two and a half percent cash rates two years. 37 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: We knew it needed to go below neutral, which is three, 38 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: and we needed to get some stimulus into the economy 39 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: to really ignite the recovery. We haven't got it. The 40 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: economy is still spluttering. We're still in a recession, and 41 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: that just shouldn't have been the case. 42 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: Some say that this double cut may in fact spook 43 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: people because people are already so nervous. What are the chances? 44 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: No, I don't believe in that at all. I think 45 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: people will take it for what it is. They'll see 46 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: their mortgage rates falling, they'll see their business lending rates falling, 47 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: and there'll be a sigh of relief. You know, it'll 48 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: free up cash for them to do what they haven't 49 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: been able to do up until now. 50 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: So, Jared, what are you picking for the economy next year? 51 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: Look, we think we get the recovery which we should 52 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: have got this year. We think we'll see growth of 53 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: around one to two percent next year, so a significant 54 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: improvement and what we've had, and then you know, things 55 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: will continue into two thousand and seven as we sort 56 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 2: of pick ourselves up off the ground. 57 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: Good stuff, Jared, thanks very much appreciated. Jared Kirky, we 58 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: Bank's chief economist who has actually been right the whole 59 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: way through here the wind does the new boss of 60 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: the rbnz's dot Mark. I think she starts in December, 61 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: but her first call will be in I think the 62 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: new year. For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen 63 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 64 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio