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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp from News Talks at B fixing what they forgot

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Speaker 1: to mention on that YouTube video. The Resident Builder with

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Speaker 1: Peter wolf Camp and Independent Building supplies the future of

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Speaker 1: Kiwi building today. Call Oh eight hundred eighty eight News

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Speaker 2: A house sizzle even when it's.

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Speaker 3: Dark, even when the grass is overgrown in the yard,

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Speaker 3: and even when a dog is too old to bar,

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Speaker 3: and when you're sitting at the table trying.

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Speaker 4: Not to starve.

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Speaker 3: Sissor even when we are bend, even when you're there,

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Speaker 3: houses along, even when there's goes, even when you got

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Speaker 3: around from the ones you love your most scream does

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Speaker 2: Locals, vesperall when they're gone.

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Speaker 2: House, even when Wilba ben, even when you're in there alone.

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Speaker 6: Well, A very very good morning and welcome along to

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Speaker 6: the Resident Builder on Sunday with me, people came to

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Speaker 6: the Resident Builder and this is your opportunity, as it

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Speaker 6: is every Sunday here at new Stalk CEEDB to talk

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Speaker 6: all things building and construction. So it's all about your place. Basically,

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Speaker 6: it can be the little jobs sometimes the slightly annoying

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Speaker 6: jobs that you know you need to get round to,

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Speaker 6: but finding the time, the inclination, the right tools, the

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Speaker 6: right equipment, the right products to help you solve those

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Speaker 6: particular problems that can be challenging sometimes. So we can

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Speaker 6: talk about that, we can talk about the big stuff,

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Speaker 6: the legislation, the rules and regulations that govern what we

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Speaker 6: can do when we can do it again. It's kind

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Speaker 6: of not unexpected and not unsurprising that I spend a

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Speaker 6: through either pieces of legislation, understanding whether or not somebody

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Speaker 6: needed to get a building consent for a particular task

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Speaker 6: at a couple of long conversations about that, and what

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Speaker 6: happens when you have strayed, let's say, from the right

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Speaker 6: should have had a building consent for. How do you

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Speaker 6: fix that at the end, or how do you resolve that,

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Speaker 6: let's say, when you're selling the property later on, it's

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Speaker 6: So those are the sorts of things that sometimes occupy

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Speaker 6: little bit this week as well, so I've got a

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Speaker 6: you calculate your energy usage or your compliance with H

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Speaker 6: one of the Building Code is going to change. It's

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Speaker 6: not going to be a very straightforward tech box approach anymore.

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Speaker 6: You've actually got to figure it out, so some calculation

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Speaker 6: and did. The New Zealand Green Building Council are hosting

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Speaker 6: is but it's always time to talk with you, So

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Speaker 6: I know that there's it's not officially granny flats. There's

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Speaker 6: I guess in the it's not going to be one hundred.

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Speaker 6: What's on at your place? What tasks do you need

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Speaker 6: there's the responsive maintenance, which is it's broken, I need

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Speaker 6: about ninety percent of New Zealand houses. So don't feel

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Speaker 6: alone if you think, gee, there's things that I've got

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Speaker 6: a self employed person like myself, you're thinking, gee, that's

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Speaker 6: almost the end of financial year twenty twenty six. Time

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Speaker 6: but it is coming up to the end of that

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Speaker 6: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 6: call all things building, construction, rules, regulations, products, tradees, good ideas,

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Speaker 6: bad ideas. Let's talk about them all. It is sixteen after.

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Speaker 1: Six, turning ohs into She'll be right the Resident builder

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Speaker 1: with Peter Wolfgam and Independent Building Supplies the future of

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Speaker 1: Kiwi Building Today, Call OH eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 6: They'd be welcome along to the show. Oh, eight hundred

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Speaker 6: morning to you, Hi, am, I yeah, go for it.

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Speaker 7: I high picked Peter. I am wondering about these Greennie

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Speaker 7: flats in terms of turning an existing building. I've got

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Speaker 7: a permitted skyline garage that i'd like to no turn

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Speaker 7: into No, no, okay, not simple.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty much. I mean we're gonna talk about it,

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Speaker 6: but it ain't going to change the outcome. So now

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Speaker 6: it's quite clear it's for new buildings only. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 6: all right, so building consent for what you're proposing.

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Speaker 6: Take care.

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Speaker 7: That was.

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Speaker 6: That's the answer. It's the answer. Twenty minutes after sex, Tom,

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Speaker 8: Quiet a I had I'm a I like to use

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Speaker 8: the Yankee push screwgle Yes, yes, I had four of

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Speaker 8: them with different fittings, all stolen.

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Speaker 6: Hang on, someone stole all your screwdrivers. Four of them

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Speaker 6: there the fittings or the whole thing, No, the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I wonder whether we should take a moment

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Speaker 6: Tom and just there may well be a number of

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Speaker 6: people listening who don't understand what a Yankee screwdriver is.

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Speaker 6: So how would you best explain it?

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Speaker 8: Well, it's a it's a spiral rotary screw driver. You

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Speaker 8: use the right turn. I don't know any left very good, but.

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Speaker 6: You go ahead, Yep, that's right.

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Speaker 8: It's got very good control for getting a screw drivers

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Speaker 8: I do believe or not. Bought a good one for

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Speaker 8: five dollars from the market the other day. But one

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Speaker 8: it's two foot long. It's oh yeah, I don't require

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Speaker 8: it for the small work. But you know, I'm in despair.

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Speaker 8: I had a number one, number two Possi drive and

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Speaker 8: still got to do a few things before I die.

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Speaker 8: I'm eighty six now and it's slowing up. But I

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Speaker 6: That's true.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I'm not quite your vintage. But I have to

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Speaker 6: That's why final comment on this from me police for

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Speaker 6: a while. I'm sure they're still doing it. Run events

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Speaker 6: leave you tools with us and your driver's license and

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Speaker 6: we'll engrave your driver's license on the tool. Because while

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Speaker 6: to your local police officer. If Touchwood any of my

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Speaker 6: they can simply look at the driver's license and they'll

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Speaker 6: matter of seconds, isn't it? And even if I'd sold it,

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Speaker 6: I sold that to young Joe last year on trade

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Speaker 6: power tools. The other thing is don't buy bloody stolen tools.

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Speaker 6: That's the other part of it. It is twenty eight

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Speaker 6: are open. The number to call, oh eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 2: Helping you finish that five and it fixed.

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Speaker 1: You started the resident builder with Beter Wolfcamp and Independent

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Speaker 1: Building Supplies the future of Kiwi building today. Call eight

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Speaker 6: I love these ones where you getting broiled in domestic issues.

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Speaker 6: Let's say we'll come to that in just a moment.

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Speaker 6: A couple of texts that have come in this is

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Speaker 6: pertinent for our discussion after eight o'clock with Phil McNamara

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Speaker 6: coming on that. Can it be the only dwelling on

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Speaker 6: be a minor dwelling or a smaller dwelling alongside an

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Speaker 6: existing one. So quite sensible. Really. It stops a developer

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Speaker 6: So that's quite sensible. And just on the theft issue

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Speaker 6: that I raised a moment ago, my gyar has been

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Speaker 6: ass and that's why I've got tall insurance. But yes,

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Speaker 6: the judge should throw the book at the dot dot

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Speaker 6: dot Johnny. Nice to hear from you. Horse theft, says

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Speaker 6: one Texter was a capital offense tool. Theft is horse

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Speaker 6: theft in today's world. Kind of see where you're coming from. Oh,

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Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call, Steve.

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Speaker 6: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you Pete, how you're very good? Yeah, Look, I've

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Speaker 4: Are you able to tell my missus it's not a

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Speaker 4: good idea to put closed hooks and the back of

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Speaker 4: hollow core doors? Mate?

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Speaker 8: Can I put you?

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Speaker 6: Can you put me on the spot and intervene in

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Speaker 2: Here she is pep.

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Speaker 4: Can you tell her it's not a good idea to

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Speaker 6: It count have some challenges, doesn't it? Because the hollow

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Speaker 6: might be a bit of MDF and it's about four

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Speaker 6: millimeters thick. So yes, if you put a hook into it,

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Speaker 6: a conventional sort of hook, it won't last very long.

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Speaker 6: And as soon as you hang a wet jacket on it,

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Speaker 4: So yes, that she's I've been trying to tell her

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Speaker 4: that piece it's or mill But.

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Speaker 6: Yes, listen, some of them, some of them are empty

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Speaker 6: But you'd still have the same issue, wouldn't you. That

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm pretty sure I've done myself. Is actually, just

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Speaker 6: blue a strip on there and then fasten the hocks

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Speaker 4: It is handy. The only problem is a lot of

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Speaker 4: the time they stend out further than like your door stops.

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Speaker 2: Yes, if you don't.

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Speaker 4: Have any clothes on them, you know, they.

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Speaker 6: Do the doors up there there done that.

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Speaker 4: He just wants to do it, mate, you can't do

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Speaker 4: it in Asia. But we don't really do it here,

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Speaker 6: They're not not probably because we maybe they don't have

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: I'm in an old villar. I've got small cordy doors.

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Speaker 6: I've got hocks on the back of most of them.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: The other thing is, I guess to get those adhesive hawks, right,

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Speaker 4: Work the any problem. It's for a rental, so they'll

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Speaker 4: fall from your tenants, I tell you. And then she's

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Speaker 4: got these over have you seen? And then they just

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Speaker 6: I was fossicating around in the laundry the other day

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Speaker 6: with a whole lot of hoks on it that you

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Speaker 4: Yes, you got that too, Okay, yeah, and one size

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Speaker 6: Yeah, right, okay, can you can you just say no?

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Speaker 6: I think I've strayed into your domestic arrangements enough to go. Yeah, look,

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Speaker 6: nice to talk with you. Take care, Bobbo. Tricky territory.

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Speaker 6: I can tell you. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 6: eighty is the number to call, six thirty six and

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Speaker 6: Dean of very good morning to you. Good, thank you.

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Speaker 9: That's the story. Hey, I was just wondering, what are

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Speaker 9: you want to make your waterproof.

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Speaker 6: No, because well, I guess as long as it's not

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Speaker 6: car under there, or you park the boat under there,

431
00:25:06,455 --> 00:25:11,055
Speaker 6: you're right, you know, if it's joisted and decking, water

432
00:25:11,095 --> 00:25:13,175
Speaker 6: will go through there, and you often look at it

433
00:25:13,215 --> 00:25:14,935
Speaker 6: and go, gee, that could be really great if that

434
00:25:15,095 --> 00:25:18,975
Speaker 6: was had some sort of weather proof covering to it.

435
00:25:20,375 --> 00:25:23,055
Speaker 6: So no, I don't think that there's any rules until

436
00:25:23,095 --> 00:25:25,455
Speaker 6: it becomes oh good, now that I've put a roof

437
00:25:25,495 --> 00:25:26,935
Speaker 6: on it, I'll put some walls on it. Then I'll

438
00:25:26,975 --> 00:25:29,055
Speaker 6: put a door on it, and you know, next thing,

439
00:25:29,095 --> 00:25:30,815
Speaker 6: you're in a full bedroom house sort of thing. So

440
00:25:30,935 --> 00:25:32,855
Speaker 6: as long as you don't go down that path that

441
00:25:32,975 --> 00:25:36,695
Speaker 6: the challenge with them that I've always found is how

442
00:25:36,735 --> 00:25:40,295
Speaker 6: would you do it? And then how do you maintain it?

443
00:25:40,415 --> 00:25:43,015
Speaker 6: Because I've seen a bunch of them where people will

444
00:25:43,135 --> 00:25:46,415
Speaker 6: use maybe like that clear light, you know, the roofing

445
00:25:46,455 --> 00:25:49,575
Speaker 6: product and fix it. Ideally with a bit of a

446
00:25:49,655 --> 00:25:52,895
Speaker 6: fall so the water is getting out, but over time

447
00:25:53,255 --> 00:25:55,415
Speaker 6: it tends to fill up with a bit of debris

448
00:25:55,615 --> 00:25:58,815
Speaker 6: and you know, leaves and so on, and can look

449
00:25:58,895 --> 00:26:01,455
Speaker 6: kind of manky basically on the underside.

450
00:26:01,815 --> 00:26:02,415
Speaker 9: Yeah.

451
00:26:02,495 --> 00:26:06,055
Speaker 6: Yeah, but no, in terms of rules and regulations, I

452
00:26:06,055 --> 00:26:08,855
Speaker 6: don't think there's anything stopping you from putting some sort

453
00:26:08,895 --> 00:26:12,135
Speaker 6: of lining on the underside to push that water away.

454
00:26:13,935 --> 00:26:17,495
Speaker 9: You put it towards the gata. Could you just let

455
00:26:17,575 --> 00:26:19,695
Speaker 9: that run down and down flip onto the ground.

456
00:26:22,015 --> 00:26:24,855
Speaker 6: Look it's got Yeah, I mean ideally you want to

457
00:26:24,855 --> 00:26:28,175
Speaker 6: control stormwater discharge and so on. But in the end,

458
00:26:28,455 --> 00:26:31,215
Speaker 6: water is hitting the ground anyway, right, So if it

459
00:26:31,335 --> 00:26:35,335
Speaker 6: hits the ground in a twenty square meter patch, or

460
00:26:35,415 --> 00:26:37,495
Speaker 6: you collect that and it hits the ground in a

461
00:26:37,535 --> 00:26:40,615
Speaker 6: five meter long strip or something like that, as long

462
00:26:40,615 --> 00:26:43,015
Speaker 6: as it doesn't become a nuisance for someone, either for

463
00:26:43,095 --> 00:26:47,455
Speaker 6: yourself or for your neighbors, then fine, knock yourself out.

464
00:26:47,455 --> 00:26:51,415
Speaker 6: I think. All right, all right, all the best.

465
00:26:52,335 --> 00:26:54,095
Speaker 9: My toes ripped off last week as well.

466
00:26:54,775 --> 00:26:59,175
Speaker 6: Oh did you well out of out of your work vehicle?

467
00:27:00,215 --> 00:27:02,935
Speaker 9: That's out of the back of my I've got a

468
00:27:02,975 --> 00:27:03,495
Speaker 9: hard it on.

469
00:27:03,495 --> 00:27:04,255
Speaker 4: The you yep.

470
00:27:05,495 --> 00:27:08,215
Speaker 6: Yeah, So how do you think they got through the

471
00:27:08,255 --> 00:27:10,535
Speaker 6: hard lit because typically they're quite.

472
00:27:10,375 --> 00:27:13,415
Speaker 9: Actually I've gone and got a quote to get it,

473
00:27:13,815 --> 00:27:16,215
Speaker 9: and they just had it. Had it on a screw driver. Basically,

474
00:27:16,415 --> 00:27:21,615
Speaker 9: it's like an electronic you know. Yes, yes, you don't

475
00:27:21,655 --> 00:27:24,375
Speaker 9: even see the damage. I don't even notice that they

476
00:27:24,375 --> 00:27:26,095
Speaker 9: were gone until one day.

477
00:27:25,935 --> 00:27:28,255
Speaker 6: When I jee because.

478
00:27:29,495 --> 00:27:31,935
Speaker 9: They didn't take everything had a chase from there. They

479
00:27:31,975 --> 00:27:33,535
Speaker 9: didn't take the chase or but they got all of

480
00:27:33,575 --> 00:27:38,375
Speaker 9: a little like impact drivers and where they could. Yeah.

481
00:27:39,255 --> 00:27:45,975
Speaker 6: So yeah, look, I can understand the frustration and what like,

482
00:27:46,055 --> 00:27:47,775
Speaker 6: if you had to put a number on it, what

483
00:27:47,815 --> 00:27:50,975
Speaker 6: would it be? Three or four thousand dollars worth a gear? Success?

484
00:27:51,535 --> 00:27:59,575
Speaker 6: Probably twelve grand, twelve thousand dollars. Yeah, can I ask insurance?

485
00:28:01,095 --> 00:28:04,455
Speaker 9: Yeah, I do have insurance, Okay, but you know it's

486
00:28:05,175 --> 00:28:09,935
Speaker 9: like it's a whole day of join a police for insurance,

487
00:28:10,055 --> 00:28:18,295
Speaker 9: going to get all your receipts. Ye, so yeah, yeah.

488
00:28:21,895 --> 00:28:24,415
Speaker 6: Yeah it is because I guess you can have the insurance,

489
00:28:24,415 --> 00:28:26,015
Speaker 6: but then you've got to prove what it is that

490
00:28:26,095 --> 00:28:30,855
Speaker 6: you had. And you know, typically as trade's when we

491
00:28:30,975 --> 00:28:33,015
Speaker 6: might not be that great on the old record keeping.

492
00:28:33,095 --> 00:28:36,375
Speaker 6: So do you keep a register of your tools and

493
00:28:36,415 --> 00:28:37,295
Speaker 6: tool purchases?

494
00:28:38,935 --> 00:28:45,895
Speaker 9: You know, when we get them, photomit to zero. Yeah, brilliant,

495
00:28:46,575 --> 00:28:50,615
Speaker 9: and then it's all in there. So that's quite Yeah.

496
00:28:50,695 --> 00:28:52,815
Speaker 6: Yeah, at least you've got a record of them. I

497
00:28:52,815 --> 00:28:55,575
Speaker 6: guess these days it's so much easier if you buy something.

498
00:28:55,655 --> 00:28:57,735
Speaker 6: In fact, I did it this week. I bought a

499
00:28:57,775 --> 00:29:01,255
Speaker 6: new tool power tool. Took a photograph of the box

500
00:29:01,295 --> 00:29:03,135
Speaker 6: so I remember what it is. Took a photograph of

501
00:29:03,175 --> 00:29:07,135
Speaker 6: the tool with a close up image of the label

502
00:29:07,175 --> 00:29:10,415
Speaker 6: on the side with the serial number on it, right,

503
00:29:10,575 --> 00:29:11,575
Speaker 6: that's all you need, isn't it.

504
00:29:12,215 --> 00:29:15,455
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can probably put that into zero as well.

505
00:29:16,135 --> 00:29:16,375
Speaker 6: Yes.

506
00:29:18,455 --> 00:29:26,655
Speaker 9: The other thing is.

507
00:29:23,135 --> 00:29:29,255
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. But I think

508
00:29:29,255 --> 00:29:31,735
Speaker 6: there's a couple of like online tools that you can use.

509
00:29:31,855 --> 00:29:35,295
Speaker 6: And just as it happens the tool that I bought,

510
00:29:37,135 --> 00:29:39,895
Speaker 6: create an account with the supplier and then log your

511
00:29:39,895 --> 00:29:44,695
Speaker 6: details there. So yeah, yeah that made sense. Oh mate,

512
00:29:44,735 --> 00:29:48,175
Speaker 6: I feel you pain. It's it's it's annoying. With a

513
00:29:48,175 --> 00:29:52,375
Speaker 6: whole lot of extra words tucked in before that. Yeah,

514
00:29:52,535 --> 00:29:54,175
Speaker 6: all right, hey, look after yourself.

515
00:29:55,295 --> 00:29:55,815
Speaker 5: You go for it.

516
00:29:55,855 --> 00:29:59,815
Speaker 9: Sorry, When they do the test and tag, they usually

517
00:29:59,895 --> 00:30:01,175
Speaker 9: record all your stuff as well.

518
00:30:01,495 --> 00:30:04,095
Speaker 6: Right, okay, you know that's good. And then the other

519
00:30:04,095 --> 00:30:06,495
Speaker 6: thing I mentioned earlier on is I'm pretty su your

520
00:30:06,495 --> 00:30:10,135
Speaker 6: police are still doing it. They'll they'll run little events

521
00:30:10,175 --> 00:30:13,655
Speaker 6: and then have your driver's license engraved on your tools.

522
00:30:13,975 --> 00:30:16,855
Speaker 6: So were your tools identifiable in any way?

523
00:30:18,415 --> 00:30:21,455
Speaker 9: We had the company initials on it, and some of

524
00:30:21,455 --> 00:30:25,495
Speaker 9: them did have my sut size. But one of my

525
00:30:25,575 --> 00:30:29,375
Speaker 9: colleagues said, your driver's license.

526
00:30:30,415 --> 00:30:33,175
Speaker 6: Well, there's there's your hot tip for when you get

527
00:30:33,215 --> 00:30:37,855
Speaker 6: all your bright shiny new gear is get Actually my

528
00:30:38,015 --> 00:30:42,495
Speaker 6: sparky Paul from Devenport Electrical. He's brought himself a little

529
00:30:42,575 --> 00:30:47,975
Speaker 6: laser printer, so rather than engrave it by hand, we

530
00:30:47,975 --> 00:30:50,095
Speaker 6: were going to do a thing where we'd get a

531
00:30:50,135 --> 00:30:52,175
Speaker 6: whole bunch of trades around and you just put the

532
00:30:52,695 --> 00:30:56,695
Speaker 6: put the tool into the laser printer and laser engrave

533
00:30:56,895 --> 00:31:03,295
Speaker 6: so much neater your details onto the tools. That's that's smart.

534
00:31:03,295 --> 00:31:05,375
Speaker 6: Actually I must go and see him about that. Thank

535
00:31:05,415 --> 00:31:08,175
Speaker 6: you for reminding me. All right, mate, Hey, look after yourself,

536
00:31:08,255 --> 00:31:18,375
Speaker 6: take care well. The best, bobbo ah. Wow. Now this

537
00:31:18,455 --> 00:31:22,575
Speaker 6: is an interesting text that's come through because someone asked

538
00:31:22,615 --> 00:31:28,615
Speaker 6: earlier on about can you in terms of empty does

539
00:31:28,655 --> 00:31:32,015
Speaker 6: it does the granny flat need to go on to

540
00:31:32,095 --> 00:31:34,375
Speaker 6: an existing site where there is already a house And

541
00:31:34,375 --> 00:31:38,495
Speaker 6: my understanding is yes. Now Gary Council Compliance officer has

542
00:31:38,535 --> 00:31:41,255
Speaker 6: text through and said, hey, Pete, official word from Mby

543
00:31:41,335 --> 00:31:44,015
Speaker 6: you can build a granny flat on an empty section

544
00:31:44,095 --> 00:31:46,695
Speaker 6: and it does not have to be an association with

545
00:31:46,935 --> 00:31:50,695
Speaker 6: a dwelling. Yes, but and I'd be interested in your

546
00:31:50,695 --> 00:31:55,975
Speaker 6: thoughts Gary, would that require a building consent? So yes,

547
00:31:56,015 --> 00:31:59,055
Speaker 6: you can build a small dwelling on a section, depending

548
00:31:59,055 --> 00:32:02,655
Speaker 6: on covenants and so on and so forth. But then

549
00:32:02,775 --> 00:32:06,015
Speaker 6: that would require a consent. So the focus on the

550
00:32:06,015 --> 00:32:09,135
Speaker 6: discs we'll have after eight o'clock this morning with fil

551
00:32:09,215 --> 00:32:12,895
Speaker 6: from Brands is around the current legislation allowing you to

552
00:32:12,935 --> 00:32:16,695
Speaker 6: potentially build up to seventy square meters a simple standalone

553
00:32:16,735 --> 00:32:21,575
Speaker 6: dwelling or a granny flat without necessarily requiring a building consent.

554
00:32:21,615 --> 00:32:24,255
Speaker 6: And I think that once you dig down through it

555
00:32:24,295 --> 00:32:26,615
Speaker 6: in terms of all of the steps you have to follow,

556
00:32:26,935 --> 00:32:30,055
Speaker 6: there'll be a whole lot of triggers for the requirement

557
00:32:30,415 --> 00:32:34,135
Speaker 6: to get a building consent. So we'll go through that.

558
00:32:34,175 --> 00:32:39,375
Speaker 6: But I'm interested in your comment Gary on that. Maybe

559
00:32:39,375 --> 00:32:41,495
Speaker 6: you could text me a bit more information on that.

560
00:32:41,575 --> 00:32:44,215
Speaker 6: So according to you, you're saying that a granny flat

561
00:32:44,255 --> 00:32:46,975
Speaker 6: on an empty section doesn't have to be an association

562
00:32:47,055 --> 00:32:50,015
Speaker 6: with another dwelling. I always understood that it needed there

563
00:32:50,055 --> 00:32:52,175
Speaker 6: needed to be an existing dwelling there in order for

564
00:32:52,255 --> 00:32:55,535
Speaker 6: you to build up to seventy square meters without necessarily

565
00:32:55,575 --> 00:33:03,455
Speaker 6: requiring a building consent. I need to take a break.

566
00:33:03,495 --> 00:33:05,655
Speaker 6: We'll do that first and then we'll come back with

567
00:33:05,695 --> 00:33:08,255
Speaker 6: more of your call. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

568
00:33:08,295 --> 00:33:08,855
Speaker 6: the number to.

569
00:33:08,815 --> 00:33:13,895
Speaker 1: Call where DIY gets unstuck. Call Oh eight hundred eighty

570
00:33:14,055 --> 00:33:17,975
Speaker 1: ten eighty The Resident Builder with Peter Wolfgam and Independent

571
00:33:18,055 --> 00:33:22,175
Speaker 1: Building supplies the future of Kiwi Building Today, News Dogs

572
00:33:22,175 --> 00:33:22,415
Speaker 1: there be.

573
00:33:24,095 --> 00:33:26,535
Speaker 6: We're talking all things on the show today. Eight hundred

574
00:33:26,575 --> 00:33:29,535
Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty is that number to call, including delightful

575
00:33:29,575 --> 00:33:33,215
Speaker 6: call from Tom earlier on talking about his Yankee screwdriver,

576
00:33:33,255 --> 00:33:35,975
Speaker 6: and I think he had a selection of them. It

577
00:33:36,135 --> 00:33:40,815
Speaker 6: may not if you're a slightly younger listener, the idea

578
00:33:40,815 --> 00:33:43,615
Speaker 6: of a Yankee screwdriver might mean absolutely nothing to you.

579
00:33:43,695 --> 00:33:47,335
Speaker 6: But they're a beautiful piece of cat They've been around

580
00:33:47,375 --> 00:33:51,815
Speaker 6: for quite a while, like I'm thinking seventy eighty years

581
00:33:51,815 --> 00:33:54,935
Speaker 6: since the first one was developed, and they're essentially a

582
00:33:55,015 --> 00:34:01,575
Speaker 6: ratcheting screwdriver where the shaft has got a spiral groove

583
00:34:01,615 --> 00:34:05,415
Speaker 6: in it, so as you apply pressure from the handle inwards,

584
00:34:06,415 --> 00:34:09,695
Speaker 6: it turns the blade basically at the end, or it

585
00:34:09,735 --> 00:34:11,695
Speaker 6: turns the fitting at the end, and then you can

586
00:34:11,775 --> 00:34:13,815
Speaker 6: screw in or screw out, depending on the setting.

587
00:34:16,495 --> 00:34:17,255
Speaker 8: And I did.

588
00:34:17,375 --> 00:34:19,775
Speaker 6: I went and bought one years ago because I figured

589
00:34:19,775 --> 00:34:22,215
Speaker 6: it'd kind of be funky and retro to have one.

590
00:34:22,255 --> 00:34:24,295
Speaker 6: And I've used it from time to time, but not

591
00:34:24,375 --> 00:34:26,175
Speaker 6: as much a couple of people have texted and gone, oh,

592
00:34:26,175 --> 00:34:29,255
Speaker 6: you can buy ratcheting screwdrivers that's slightly different. Like I've

593
00:34:29,255 --> 00:34:32,655
Speaker 6: got one of those actually in my desk draw so

594
00:34:32,775 --> 00:34:36,535
Speaker 6: inside the house with a selection of bits, and it's

595
00:34:36,615 --> 00:34:38,775
Speaker 6: just a ratchet so you can turn to the right

596
00:34:38,935 --> 00:34:42,295
Speaker 6: and then when if you're screwing in, you turn clockwise

597
00:34:42,375 --> 00:34:45,055
Speaker 6: to screw in, and then when you turn your hand back,

598
00:34:45,095 --> 00:34:47,455
Speaker 6: it just ratchets and then so you don't have to

599
00:34:47,535 --> 00:34:51,095
Speaker 6: keep turning your hand on the handle of the screwdriver.

600
00:34:51,615 --> 00:34:55,775
Speaker 6: You just ratchet backwards and forwards in order to do it.

601
00:34:55,815 --> 00:34:58,175
Speaker 6: I think most of us have probably got one of

602
00:34:58,215 --> 00:35:00,975
Speaker 6: those slightly different to the Yankee screwdriver, because that's as

603
00:35:01,015 --> 00:35:04,375
Speaker 6: you push in, that gives you the talk to turn

604
00:35:04,415 --> 00:35:07,775
Speaker 6: the head anyway. Nice old tools. O eight one hundred

605
00:35:07,815 --> 00:35:09,775
Speaker 6: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. But

606
00:35:09,815 --> 00:35:11,575
Speaker 6: the challenge with them is is the fitting on the

607
00:35:11,655 --> 00:35:14,495
Speaker 6: end of the Yankee is often the bits that come

608
00:35:14,575 --> 00:35:18,495
Speaker 6: with it are often slotted. It's very hard to find,

609
00:35:18,535 --> 00:35:21,935
Speaker 6: for example, a Phillip's head. It's well, I'd love to

610
00:35:21,935 --> 00:35:25,215
Speaker 6: know if you've managed to find a Yankee bit or

611
00:35:25,255 --> 00:35:27,335
Speaker 6: a bit that fits into a Yankee screwdriver with a

612
00:35:27,415 --> 00:35:31,495
Speaker 6: square drive head on it without using an adapter. Send

613
00:35:31,535 --> 00:35:33,295
Speaker 6: me a text and you know where you got one from.

614
00:35:33,535 --> 00:35:35,695
Speaker 6: I should talk to the guys at Carbattech. They've probably

615
00:35:35,695 --> 00:35:39,575
Speaker 6: got one. But then if I talk to them, I'll

616
00:35:39,615 --> 00:35:43,095
Speaker 6: end up buying more tools anyway, Doug, good morning to you.

617
00:35:44,615 --> 00:35:45,295
Speaker 9: Yes, good morning.

618
00:35:45,935 --> 00:35:47,935
Speaker 8: Look I have to replace.

619
00:35:47,575 --> 00:35:49,215
Speaker 7: The roofing on on my garage.

620
00:35:49,295 --> 00:35:51,375
Speaker 6: Yes, and I see.

621
00:35:51,215 --> 00:35:53,735
Speaker 7: There's two different thicknesses. There's a point four.

622
00:35:53,535 --> 00:35:54,535
Speaker 10: And a point five to five.

623
00:35:54,775 --> 00:35:56,215
Speaker 4: Yeah, which one should I be using?

624
00:35:57,295 --> 00:36:03,935
Speaker 6: Look, it's completely up to you. So there is like

625
00:36:04,055 --> 00:36:08,455
Speaker 6: point four is compliant, right, it does what it says

626
00:36:08,495 --> 00:36:13,815
Speaker 6: on the tin. If, for example, it's a roof that

627
00:36:14,095 --> 00:36:16,535
Speaker 6: you might find that you have to get onto. So,

628
00:36:16,695 --> 00:36:18,415
Speaker 6: for example, if it was a lower roof of a

629
00:36:18,455 --> 00:36:20,415
Speaker 6: two story house and you know that people might walk

630
00:36:20,455 --> 00:36:22,815
Speaker 6: around on there, that might be reason to go point

631
00:36:22,855 --> 00:36:27,095
Speaker 6: five to five. If the span of the perlins perhaps

632
00:36:27,175 --> 00:36:31,215
Speaker 6: is a little bit wider, But even then point four

633
00:36:31,255 --> 00:36:36,175
Speaker 6: will do it. Look, I tend to take a belt

634
00:36:36,215 --> 00:36:38,655
Speaker 6: embraces approach to these things, and I'll go Look, if

635
00:36:38,695 --> 00:36:41,895
Speaker 6: I put point five to five on, it's just a

636
00:36:41,895 --> 00:36:44,895
Speaker 6: little bit stronger because it's a little bit thicker, and

637
00:36:45,055 --> 00:36:47,095
Speaker 6: maybe that'll give me a little either a little bit

638
00:36:47,095 --> 00:36:50,655
Speaker 6: more durability or a little bit more resistance in terms

639
00:36:50,655 --> 00:36:52,495
Speaker 6: of someone walking on it and not walking in the

640
00:36:52,575 --> 00:36:59,015
Speaker 6: right space. But in terms of compliance, there's nothing in it, okay.

641
00:36:59,455 --> 00:37:01,535
Speaker 6: And I know there's a bit of a price difference obviously.

642
00:37:03,055 --> 00:37:05,975
Speaker 8: I think the beams for nailing into are about nine.

643
00:37:05,895 --> 00:37:09,255
Speaker 6: Hundred, which is pretty conventional. It's pretty standard, and the

644
00:37:09,575 --> 00:37:13,375
Speaker 6: point four will will span that, okay. And are you

645
00:37:13,455 --> 00:37:16,215
Speaker 6: going for a conventional corrugated profile or is it a

646
00:37:16,215 --> 00:37:19,935
Speaker 6: different profile of long run yep, corrugation yep.

647
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

648
00:37:22,295 --> 00:37:29,575
Speaker 6: Look, I if it's me, I don't know. There's a

649
00:37:29,575 --> 00:37:31,215
Speaker 6: part of me that just goes, look, I'm just going

650
00:37:31,295 --> 00:37:33,615
Speaker 6: to go for the heavier gauge because I think that'll

651
00:37:33,615 --> 00:37:36,455
Speaker 6: be We're not durable is not really the right word.

652
00:37:36,495 --> 00:37:39,295
Speaker 6: It's just that that extra bit of strength that you

653
00:37:39,375 --> 00:37:44,055
Speaker 6: get out of it. Right, So if it's within the budget,

654
00:37:44,695 --> 00:37:48,815
Speaker 6: then that's good. But don't don't feel that because you've

655
00:37:48,855 --> 00:37:51,735
Speaker 6: gone for point four that it's not going to be

656
00:37:51,775 --> 00:37:58,175
Speaker 6: as good. It'll be fine, but there yeah, yeah, it's

657
00:37:58,215 --> 00:38:00,775
Speaker 6: hard to describe why you'd go for the heavier gauge.

658
00:38:00,975 --> 00:38:03,735
Speaker 6: Apart from the obvious, which is there's more metal on

659
00:38:03,775 --> 00:38:05,975
Speaker 6: the roof, it'll be it is a bit thicker obviously,

660
00:38:06,455 --> 00:38:10,335
Speaker 6: et cetera, et cetera. What's the actual logical advantage of that?

661
00:38:11,735 --> 00:38:13,935
Speaker 6: If you're never going to get up on that roof again,

662
00:38:14,415 --> 00:38:16,055
Speaker 6: then zero point four is fine.

663
00:38:17,815 --> 00:38:18,855
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I don't plan to.

664
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Speaker 4: Bolt or screws, so.

665
00:38:26,455 --> 00:38:29,055
Speaker 6: They'll be the roofing screw. So it'd be like a

666
00:38:29,095 --> 00:38:33,015
Speaker 6: sixty five because the from the bottom of the trough

667
00:38:33,095 --> 00:38:34,895
Speaker 6: to the top of the ridge of the profile is

668
00:38:34,895 --> 00:38:38,655
Speaker 6: probably about eighteen mil. Your pearlins are about forty five mil.

669
00:38:39,055 --> 00:38:41,375
Speaker 6: So if you go for like a sixty five, don't

670
00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:43,335
Speaker 6: go for a seventy five, because what you'll find is

671
00:38:43,335 --> 00:38:45,415
Speaker 6: that the end of the driver bit or the end

672
00:38:45,455 --> 00:38:47,655
Speaker 6: of the fixing will come out at the bottom of

673
00:38:47,655 --> 00:38:50,615
Speaker 6: the pearlins everywhere, and that's not giving you any more holding.

674
00:38:50,655 --> 00:38:53,895
Speaker 6: So it's really enough to get decent embeddment into the

675
00:38:53,935 --> 00:38:57,975
Speaker 6: timber and then allowing for the rise the ridge. So

676
00:38:58,775 --> 00:39:01,215
Speaker 6: a sixty five or even a sixty would be fine.

677
00:39:02,535 --> 00:39:04,695
Speaker 8: Oh they quote a mid point twenty five or point

678
00:39:04,695 --> 00:39:05,455
Speaker 8: three five.

679
00:39:06,375 --> 00:39:12,855
Speaker 6: Point two five? What's that is that? Is that the

680
00:39:12,895 --> 00:39:14,175
Speaker 6: gauge of the screw.

681
00:39:15,135 --> 00:39:15,895
Speaker 4: Or maybe it is.

682
00:39:16,655 --> 00:39:20,935
Speaker 6: Uh, I didn't Yeah, I didn't think that there were

683
00:39:20,975 --> 00:39:27,495
Speaker 6: different That's interesting, I suppose anytime I've just ordered roofing screws, right,

684
00:39:27,575 --> 00:39:28,295
Speaker 6: you can get them.

685
00:39:28,135 --> 00:39:32,415
Speaker 8: Color coated, and they've quote, give me a quote, and

686
00:39:32,455 --> 00:39:34,455
Speaker 8: it's for a price for a point two fives and

687
00:39:34,895 --> 00:39:35,695
Speaker 8: point three five.

688
00:39:37,415 --> 00:39:41,615
Speaker 6: Okay, Interesting, I didn't realize you get different gauges. That

689
00:39:41,695 --> 00:39:44,855
Speaker 6: might be my ignorance on that particular issue, but I'll

690
00:39:44,895 --> 00:39:48,535
Speaker 6: have a look at that during the news. Interesting. Hey,

691
00:39:48,535 --> 00:39:52,615
Speaker 6: good luck with it. Enjoy enjoy the new roof, all right, right,

692
00:39:52,695 --> 00:39:57,575
Speaker 6: take care. I've got a pile of roofing iron that

693
00:39:57,615 --> 00:40:01,055
Speaker 6: I picked up from a mate last year that's still

694
00:40:01,055 --> 00:40:02,895
Speaker 6: in the same place that I dropped it off when

695
00:40:02,935 --> 00:40:05,375
Speaker 6: I unloaded it from the ute because I was going

696
00:40:05,375 --> 00:40:10,415
Speaker 6: to replace the roof on the shed. I haven't yet,

697
00:40:10,415 --> 00:40:14,015
Speaker 6: but I did go out at a trade fair the

698
00:40:14,015 --> 00:40:16,135
Speaker 6: other day and buy a set of those electric shares

699
00:40:16,175 --> 00:40:19,695
Speaker 6: that you see all the roof is using. So instead

700
00:40:19,695 --> 00:40:21,735
Speaker 6: of working my way across the corrugated iron with a

701
00:40:21,735 --> 00:40:25,455
Speaker 6: pair of incidents, which is okay, but not as much

702
00:40:25,455 --> 00:40:28,095
Speaker 6: fun as a set of electric shaars. Now I get

703
00:40:28,095 --> 00:40:31,335
Speaker 6: a chance to use my new electric shares. Now I'll

704
00:40:31,335 --> 00:40:33,535
Speaker 6: have to go out and do the roof. If you've

705
00:40:33,535 --> 00:40:35,335
Speaker 6: got jobs that you need to do and you want

706
00:40:35,375 --> 00:40:37,175
Speaker 6: to talk about them, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

707
00:40:37,295 --> 00:40:39,415
Speaker 6: eighty is the number to call quick text before the

708
00:40:39,455 --> 00:40:42,375
Speaker 6: break morning peak. I started my time as an apprenticeship

709
00:40:42,655 --> 00:40:44,935
Speaker 6: in nineteen seventy two. I'm now sixty nine years old,

710
00:40:45,255 --> 00:40:47,415
Speaker 6: still building, but part time as I love it. People

711
00:40:47,495 --> 00:40:49,895
Speaker 6: pay me to go and people pay me to go

712
00:40:49,935 --> 00:40:53,895
Speaker 6: to the gym. I've got my large Yankee screwdriver from

713
00:40:53,975 --> 00:40:57,535
Speaker 6: Shroft's Hardware. I remember that store so good for removing

714
00:40:57,575 --> 00:41:00,695
Speaker 6: difficult screws due to the leverage that you can apply.

715
00:41:01,095 --> 00:41:03,655
Speaker 6: Thank you very much for that text. That's fantastic, right HEO.

716
00:41:03,735 --> 00:41:05,575
Speaker 6: We're back after New Sport and we're the top of

717
00:41:05,615 --> 00:41:08,415
Speaker 6: there are at eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

718
00:41:08,455 --> 00:41:24,495
Speaker 6: number to call.

719
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Speaker 1: Measure twice, call once on eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: The resident builder with Peterwolfcamp and Independent Building supplies the

721
00:41:33,695 --> 00:41:36,935
Speaker 1: future of Kiwi Building. Today News talk edb.

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Speaker 6: And a very good morning. Welcome back to the program.

723
00:41:39,375 --> 00:41:41,735
Speaker 6: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

724
00:41:41,975 --> 00:41:44,815
Speaker 6: and nine two ninety two for the text or ZBZB

725
00:41:44,935 --> 00:41:47,575
Speaker 6: file phone. If you'd like to see me an email,

726
00:41:47,615 --> 00:41:50,215
Speaker 6: you're more than welcome. It's Pete at newstalksb dot co

727
00:41:50,335 --> 00:41:52,415
Speaker 6: dot m Z. So we're talking a little bit about tools,

728
00:41:52,455 --> 00:41:54,575
Speaker 6: we're talking a bit about roofing, we're talking about howks

729
00:41:54,615 --> 00:41:57,055
Speaker 6: in the back of doors and the domestic issues that

730
00:41:57,095 --> 00:42:00,135
Speaker 6: come along with that, and also in the next hour,

731
00:42:00,215 --> 00:42:02,375
Speaker 6: So we're going to take your calls for the next hour.

732
00:42:02,895 --> 00:42:08,095
Speaker 6: Then after eight o'clock, very kindly, Phil McNamara from Brands

733
00:42:08,175 --> 00:42:10,775
Speaker 6: has set aside some time to have a bit of

734
00:42:10,775 --> 00:42:18,055
Speaker 6: a chat about Brands, the Building Research Authority. They have produced,

735
00:42:18,335 --> 00:42:21,815
Speaker 6: as they do, bulletins on all sorts of building issues,

736
00:42:21,815 --> 00:42:24,095
Speaker 6: and the one of the more recent ones they've done

737
00:42:24,375 --> 00:42:29,095
Speaker 6: is a guidance on the rules and regulations regarding granny

738
00:42:29,135 --> 00:42:32,655
Speaker 6: flats or simple standalone dwellings. So what we're going to

739
00:42:32,735 --> 00:42:35,215
Speaker 6: do and Phil was part of the team that researched

740
00:42:35,495 --> 00:42:38,655
Speaker 6: and wrote that particular bulletin, which is available online. I

741
00:42:38,695 --> 00:42:42,015
Speaker 6: put a link up on my resident builder Facebook page,

742
00:42:42,095 --> 00:42:44,775
Speaker 6: or if you search for b was it b U

743
00:42:45,255 --> 00:42:50,975
Speaker 6: seven four, you'll find the guidance online as well, really simple,

744
00:42:51,015 --> 00:42:55,255
Speaker 6: straightforward set of guidance around all of the rules and

745
00:42:55,295 --> 00:42:59,135
Speaker 6: regulations governing the construction of these up to seventy square

746
00:42:59,175 --> 00:43:04,695
Speaker 6: meter dwellings, maybe without a consent. And I apologize in

747
00:43:04,735 --> 00:43:09,135
Speaker 6: advance for constantly referred to maybe's and possibly and so on,

748
00:43:09,255 --> 00:43:13,175
Speaker 6: because I think that when you dig into this you

749
00:43:13,295 --> 00:43:16,535
Speaker 6: might find that any number of other parts of the

750
00:43:16,575 --> 00:43:20,615
Speaker 6: compliance pathway end up directing you back to getting a

751
00:43:20,655 --> 00:43:26,535
Speaker 6: building consent. So my approach is very much that, you know,

752
00:43:27,215 --> 00:43:31,495
Speaker 6: I think we've been not misled, but it is tempting

753
00:43:31,535 --> 00:43:34,335
Speaker 6: to think, oh, now you can just build whatever you want.

754
00:43:34,735 --> 00:43:37,415
Speaker 6: That's not true anyway. So what we're going to do

755
00:43:37,575 --> 00:43:39,815
Speaker 6: is with Phil, we're going to set up a scenario

756
00:43:39,935 --> 00:43:44,015
Speaker 6: essentially where I want to build one, and so I'm

757
00:43:44,055 --> 00:43:46,655
Speaker 6: going to ask him all of the questions of all

758
00:43:46,695 --> 00:43:49,695
Speaker 6: of the steps to get one built, and then we

759
00:43:49,695 --> 00:43:52,535
Speaker 6: should figure out where who we need to talk to,

760
00:43:52,695 --> 00:43:56,215
Speaker 6: what level of compliance, what level of documentation, what do

761
00:43:56,215 --> 00:43:58,455
Speaker 6: you need to provide to counsel, how do you get

762
00:43:58,495 --> 00:44:01,335
Speaker 6: them signed off in effect? And so on, And we'll

763
00:44:01,335 --> 00:44:03,455
Speaker 6: do that after eight o'clock this morning, So looking forward

764
00:44:03,495 --> 00:44:05,415
Speaker 6: to that and thank you for some of the texts

765
00:44:05,415 --> 00:44:07,295
Speaker 6: that have come through. We got talking about tools, and

766
00:44:07,375 --> 00:44:10,455
Speaker 6: I'm always happy to talk about tools, especially after Tom

767
00:44:11,175 --> 00:44:16,455
Speaker 6: talked about his Yankee screwdriver or screwdrivers unfortunately they got

768
00:44:16,495 --> 00:44:19,735
Speaker 6: pinched seemingly. And then we got on to talking about

769
00:44:20,535 --> 00:44:23,575
Speaker 6: tool thefts as well, including that chat with Dean who

770
00:44:23,775 --> 00:44:27,255
Speaker 6: asked a completely separate question but then kind of revealed

771
00:44:27,255 --> 00:44:32,535
Speaker 6: that just last week somebody low life busted the lock

772
00:44:32,575 --> 00:44:34,935
Speaker 6: on the back of his mute, on the hard deck

773
00:44:34,975 --> 00:44:37,935
Speaker 6: on the back of his mute and pinched about twelve

774
00:44:38,095 --> 00:44:41,015
Speaker 6: thousand dollars worth of power tools out of the back

775
00:44:41,055 --> 00:44:45,095
Speaker 6: of the ute. And okay, in this instance, I mean,

776
00:44:45,775 --> 00:44:48,935
Speaker 6: I'm trying to put an estimate on how many trades

777
00:44:48,975 --> 00:44:53,655
Speaker 6: would have their tools ensured for replacement after theft, and

778
00:44:55,375 --> 00:44:57,535
Speaker 6: I'd be very surprised that it was more than twenty

779
00:44:57,535 --> 00:45:00,375
Speaker 6: five percent of trades would have that level of insurance.

780
00:45:00,415 --> 00:45:03,335
Speaker 6: In which case, when gear gets ripped off, and it's

781
00:45:03,375 --> 00:45:06,055
Speaker 6: happened to me, it's happened to almost every single tradi.

782
00:45:06,295 --> 00:45:11,895
Speaker 6: You've got to work to earn the money to buy

783
00:45:11,895 --> 00:45:15,175
Speaker 6: the tools that allow you to do your work, and

784
00:45:15,175 --> 00:45:19,775
Speaker 6: without your tools, you can't work, so yeah, it's a

785
00:45:19,815 --> 00:45:21,855
Speaker 6: bit of an issue. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

786
00:45:21,895 --> 00:45:26,655
Speaker 6: We're talking all things this morning, eight hundred eighty ten eighty,

787
00:45:26,735 --> 00:45:30,135
Speaker 6: all things building, construction and tools and having the right

788
00:45:30,175 --> 00:45:34,575
Speaker 6: tool for the right job. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

789
00:45:34,575 --> 00:45:40,095
Speaker 6: The number to call said, good morning. Yea, he said, oh,

790
00:45:40,175 --> 00:45:41,735
Speaker 6: good morning, crazings.

791
00:45:42,495 --> 00:45:46,255
Speaker 11: Yeah, good morning. Yeah. I was looking for a product.

792
00:45:46,535 --> 00:45:50,815
Speaker 11: I'm masking out an area to put grip on it

793
00:45:52,895 --> 00:45:57,175
Speaker 11: and in the corners. I've actually seen the product. You

794
00:45:57,175 --> 00:45:59,415
Speaker 11: can you can get these stickers in the in there's

795
00:46:01,495 --> 00:46:06,095
Speaker 11: there's a concave in a convex, masking cave in a role.

796
00:46:06,855 --> 00:46:07,215
Speaker 6: Really.

797
00:46:08,095 --> 00:46:11,055
Speaker 11: Yes, I've seen a packet that's got on a your head.

798
00:46:11,055 --> 00:46:12,815
Speaker 6: I had one, but it's.

799
00:46:14,215 --> 00:46:17,775
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, when you go and ask people

800
00:46:18,215 --> 00:46:21,775
Speaker 11: and that's like ex boots, they kind of, you know,

801
00:46:21,815 --> 00:46:23,215
Speaker 11: they think you're from another planet.

802
00:46:24,655 --> 00:46:30,055
Speaker 6: I have to say, I I've never seen it. I'm

803
00:46:30,095 --> 00:46:34,495
Speaker 6: not suggesting it doesn't exist. I can see the usefulness

804
00:46:34,535 --> 00:46:38,455
Speaker 6: of it, but I so literally it's a masking tape,

805
00:46:38,935 --> 00:46:42,375
Speaker 6: but it's already got either a convex or a concave

806
00:46:43,255 --> 00:46:46,495
Speaker 6: element to it. So for masking an interior or an

807
00:46:46,495 --> 00:46:47,415
Speaker 6: exterior corner.

808
00:46:48,175 --> 00:46:52,175
Speaker 11: Yeah, yes, they do exist. A goner your head head

809
00:46:52,215 --> 00:46:56,255
Speaker 11: somebody right, yeah, because he was doing his deck. But

810
00:46:56,735 --> 00:46:58,095
Speaker 11: I should have taken a photo of it.

811
00:46:58,215 --> 00:46:58,375
Speaker 4: Ah.

812
00:46:58,455 --> 00:47:02,575
Speaker 6: But hey, look, if someone can text me the name

813
00:47:02,775 --> 00:47:06,055
Speaker 6: and probably more usefully where you can buy this magical

814
00:47:06,135 --> 00:47:09,095
Speaker 6: masking tape, they can do that and stay listening and

815
00:47:09,095 --> 00:47:11,895
Speaker 6: I'll read it out as soon as that that information arise.

816
00:47:12,495 --> 00:47:14,775
Speaker 8: Okay, thank you.

817
00:47:14,095 --> 00:47:17,815
Speaker 6: Okay, all the best. So, if you know of a

818
00:47:18,015 --> 00:47:24,135
Speaker 6: masking tape that is designed to essentially go around corners

819
00:47:24,615 --> 00:47:35,375
Speaker 6: right on an exterior corner, I'm thinking it's relatively simple

820
00:47:35,415 --> 00:47:38,855
Speaker 6: if you're masking an exterior corner, right, so you can

821
00:47:39,175 --> 00:47:41,615
Speaker 6: roll out your masking tape along one edge and simply

822
00:47:41,695 --> 00:47:45,495
Speaker 6: fold it over. But I can see the utility the

823
00:47:45,615 --> 00:47:49,815
Speaker 6: usefulness of a masking product that's got essentially an interior

824
00:47:49,895 --> 00:47:53,375
Speaker 6: corner that would allow you to perhaps take unroll a

825
00:47:53,375 --> 00:47:55,455
Speaker 6: bit of it. How would you unroll it? Like, how

826
00:47:55,455 --> 00:47:57,215
Speaker 6: do they roll it on to a piece of roll

827
00:47:57,815 --> 00:48:00,855
Speaker 6: with a ninety degree corner on it. It's going to

828
00:48:00,895 --> 00:48:04,055
Speaker 6: be challenging. See unroll it. It's already pre formed, and

829
00:48:04,095 --> 00:48:09,095
Speaker 6: you could simply press it into place. There is a

830
00:48:09,175 --> 00:48:12,175
Speaker 6: usefulness to that. Oh, w eight hundred if you have

831
00:48:12,295 --> 00:48:16,255
Speaker 6: seen it, this unicorn type masking tape, let us know,

832
00:48:16,295 --> 00:48:18,575
Speaker 6: and then I can let SID know. And that's another

833
00:48:18,655 --> 00:48:21,455
Speaker 6: mystery solved on the program this morning. Thank you very much. O.

834
00:48:21,535 --> 00:48:23,895
Speaker 6: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

835
00:48:24,015 --> 00:48:26,735
Speaker 6: A couple of techs that have come in. Giraldo texts, Hi, Pete,

836
00:48:27,055 --> 00:48:29,335
Speaker 6: who does one go to when within a year of

837
00:48:29,375 --> 00:48:32,575
Speaker 6: buying a brand new build numerous issues show up as

838
00:48:32,575 --> 00:48:35,015
Speaker 6: the season's roll over. The initial building inspection was just

839
00:48:35,055 --> 00:48:37,695
Speaker 6: done on what's in sight and not within the walls,

840
00:48:37,775 --> 00:48:40,575
Speaker 6: roof and underfoot. Right now we're left with nowhere to go.

841
00:48:40,735 --> 00:48:43,095
Speaker 6: As anyone you talk to says, talk to the builder

842
00:48:43,295 --> 00:48:47,535
Speaker 6: who isn't interested, Well, nothing gets the interest of a

843
00:48:47,535 --> 00:48:52,455
Speaker 6: builder more than the threat, I suppose, for want of

844
00:48:52,455 --> 00:48:55,975
Speaker 6: a better term of going to the licensed building practitioner board.

845
00:48:56,415 --> 00:49:02,015
Speaker 6: So the builder, now that might not be the developer,

846
00:49:02,095 --> 00:49:04,855
Speaker 6: because the developer may not be a licensed building practitioner,

847
00:49:04,895 --> 00:49:07,895
Speaker 6: but somewhere along the line in the code of compliance

848
00:49:08,215 --> 00:49:13,175
Speaker 6: documents will be the name of the either the builder

849
00:49:13,615 --> 00:49:16,615
Speaker 6: or whoever's done the actual building work on the project,

850
00:49:16,815 --> 00:49:20,295
Speaker 6: and they will need to be a licensed building practitioner,

851
00:49:21,135 --> 00:49:24,415
Speaker 6: so they then have a duty, they have code of

852
00:49:24,455 --> 00:49:29,015
Speaker 6: ethics and their other responsibilities to reply to issues that

853
00:49:29,135 --> 00:49:33,815
Speaker 6: you're raising. And I guess if they're not interested, then

854
00:49:33,895 --> 00:49:37,535
Speaker 6: they can explain their lack of interest to the Licensed

855
00:49:37,575 --> 00:49:43,215
Speaker 6: Building Practitioners Disciplinary Board. So that's generally one way of

856
00:49:43,255 --> 00:49:47,055
Speaker 6: getting people's attention, so I would try that. Otherwise, there

857
00:49:47,055 --> 00:49:50,055
Speaker 6: are I guess legal redress where you remind them of

858
00:49:50,095 --> 00:49:53,935
Speaker 6: their legal responsibilities. I can certainly understand your frustration, but

859
00:49:53,975 --> 00:49:56,335
Speaker 6: there are ways of doing it. Oh, eight hundred eighty

860
00:49:56,415 --> 00:49:58,255
Speaker 6: ten eighty is the number to call, Bonny Pete. I've

861
00:49:58,295 --> 00:50:00,695
Speaker 6: just bought an older saw bench with a solid steel

862
00:50:00,895 --> 00:50:03,535
Speaker 6: top or a steel bench. How do I stop it

863
00:50:03,535 --> 00:50:06,015
Speaker 6: from rusting? When I use it? It gets good use,

864
00:50:06,375 --> 00:50:08,615
Speaker 6: It could sit for weeks before I go back to it.

865
00:50:08,695 --> 00:50:11,935
Speaker 6: Love to hear what's available. Cheers Brett and the lovely Ararimu.

866
00:50:12,175 --> 00:50:18,055
Speaker 6: Thank you, Brett. I've had reasonable success with penetrol, So

867
00:50:18,295 --> 00:50:23,455
Speaker 6: just a spray of penetrol over tool surfaces keeps the

868
00:50:23,535 --> 00:50:27,295
Speaker 6: rust at bay puts a slight lubricant on the surface

869
00:50:27,415 --> 00:50:30,975
Speaker 6: without it being tacky or rubbing off. You know, because

870
00:50:31,015 --> 00:50:35,135
Speaker 6: you could apply. Sorry, I'm just laughing because it's a

871
00:50:35,175 --> 00:50:41,895
Speaker 6: fantastic text that's just come in the Yeah, I pulled

872
00:50:41,935 --> 00:50:44,575
Speaker 6: a partner old vice the other day and cleaned it

873
00:50:44,695 --> 00:50:46,695
Speaker 6: up and put it back in and just use some

874
00:50:46,735 --> 00:50:49,735
Speaker 6: penetrol over it. I think there's other tool oils that

875
00:50:49,815 --> 00:50:52,895
Speaker 6: you can buy as well, particularly like for a heavy

876
00:50:53,535 --> 00:50:58,415
Speaker 6: steel tabletop on a table saw. My table saw's got

877
00:50:58,415 --> 00:51:00,495
Speaker 6: an allowing top because it's one of those movable ones.

878
00:51:01,975 --> 00:51:05,215
Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a special tool oil. Actually,

879
00:51:05,215 --> 00:51:08,135
Speaker 6: i'd be interested to know for maybe people that have

880
00:51:08,215 --> 00:51:11,735
Speaker 6: got older tools, what oil you use to keep them

881
00:51:11,775 --> 00:51:16,735
Speaker 6: in good Nick, because yes, the rust will always come back. Oh,

882
00:51:16,815 --> 00:51:19,295
Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

883
00:51:19,895 --> 00:51:23,575
Speaker 6: Pete says this texter. I'm not sure what's worse having

884
00:51:23,655 --> 00:51:26,375
Speaker 6: your tools pinched and having to claim on them or

885
00:51:26,455 --> 00:51:29,215
Speaker 6: the five other tools that you find missing once you've

886
00:51:29,415 --> 00:51:34,095
Speaker 6: had the claim settled chairs from Nick. I remember many

887
00:51:34,255 --> 00:51:37,895
Speaker 6: many many years ago we had a site shed broken

888
00:51:37,975 --> 00:51:40,815
Speaker 6: into and I was just a young feller on site,

889
00:51:40,815 --> 00:51:42,335
Speaker 6: so I used to take all my tools home. But

890
00:51:42,415 --> 00:51:45,655
Speaker 6: tom my boss at the time, they've broken They pinched

891
00:51:45,655 --> 00:51:50,615
Speaker 6: a whole lot of gear, and for literally months afterwards,

892
00:51:50,975 --> 00:51:53,815
Speaker 6: you'd be looking around for something, going, oh, that's right,

893
00:51:54,535 --> 00:51:57,415
Speaker 6: you know they pinched that. Maybe an old screwdriver or

894
00:51:57,495 --> 00:52:01,815
Speaker 6: maybe a cold chisel or something that I've collected over years.

895
00:52:02,415 --> 00:52:04,815
Speaker 6: And then you'd realize that that got pinched as well.

896
00:52:04,855 --> 00:52:06,535
Speaker 6: So I get exactly where you're coming from.

897
00:52:06,615 --> 00:52:06,775
Speaker 4: Nick.

898
00:52:07,095 --> 00:52:09,615
Speaker 6: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,

899
00:52:10,015 --> 00:52:11,655
Speaker 6: just on the before we go to the break and

900
00:52:11,735 --> 00:52:14,655
Speaker 6: this spear line, So jump in now, Oh, eight hundred

901
00:52:14,735 --> 00:52:18,015
Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty. The tape probably comes from Shamrock Green

902
00:52:18,975 --> 00:52:24,735
Speaker 6: from Neil. That's fantastic. That's just a brilliant one. Is

903
00:52:24,815 --> 00:52:26,695
Speaker 6: that guy talking about the tape that has a line

904
00:52:26,735 --> 00:52:29,375
Speaker 6: down the middle like plasterer's tape? Yeah, but you wouldn't

905
00:52:29,455 --> 00:52:31,655
Speaker 6: use that for masking. I know what you mean. Um,

906
00:52:33,015 --> 00:52:37,895
Speaker 6: it's basically jib stopping tape. Isn't it reinforcing tape for

907
00:52:38,095 --> 00:52:42,215
Speaker 6: jip stopping? But that's that won't work as masking tape.

908
00:52:42,295 --> 00:52:43,815
Speaker 8: So umm.

909
00:52:47,415 --> 00:52:49,175
Speaker 6: Oh, I'll get to the master builder's claim in just

910
00:52:49,215 --> 00:52:51,295
Speaker 6: a moment. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

911
00:52:51,535 --> 00:52:53,015
Speaker 6: number to call. We'll be back with you in just

912
00:52:53,095 --> 00:52:53,415
Speaker 6: a moment.

913
00:52:54,295 --> 00:52:56,935
Speaker 2: Vexing. What they forgot to mention on that YouTube video.

914
00:52:57,455 --> 00:53:01,815
Speaker 1: The resident builder with Peter Wolfcamp and Independent Building supplies

915
00:53:02,015 --> 00:53:04,175
Speaker 1: the future of Kiwi Building Today.

916
00:53:04,455 --> 00:53:07,775
Speaker 2: Call oh eight hundred eighty News Talk ZIRB.

917
00:53:09,855 --> 00:53:14,535
Speaker 6: Turn microphone on, that's broadcasting. I was actually looking through

918
00:53:14,575 --> 00:53:17,655
Speaker 6: the emails from sort of my work emails, which is

919
00:53:17,855 --> 00:53:20,295
Speaker 6: you know Pete at Newstalk CB dot co don Zed

920
00:53:20,535 --> 00:53:22,535
Speaker 6: and I have to be really honest, I only log

921
00:53:22,615 --> 00:53:25,215
Speaker 6: into them when I come into the studio. So there's

922
00:53:25,415 --> 00:53:28,735
Speaker 6: obviously a little bit of a backlog, including one from

923
00:53:28,775 --> 00:53:33,735
Speaker 6: the bosses saying that News Talk CB's anniversary occurs around

924
00:53:33,935 --> 00:53:39,015
Speaker 6: this time, which is remarkable. So nineteen eighty seven, about

925
00:53:39,055 --> 00:53:42,335
Speaker 6: the sixteenth of March nineteen eighty seven, and I'm trying

926
00:53:42,335 --> 00:53:44,775
Speaker 6: to figure out when I did my first overnight shift here.

927
00:53:45,975 --> 00:53:48,495
Speaker 6: It's got to be about nineteen eighty eight eighty nine.

928
00:53:48,735 --> 00:53:51,695
Speaker 6: I think that's a long time ago. Speaking of a

929
00:53:51,735 --> 00:53:53,815
Speaker 6: long time ago, one of the highlights of my week

930
00:53:55,255 --> 00:54:00,335
Speaker 6: I went off to Hamilton on Wednesday to attend an

931
00:54:00,415 --> 00:54:04,935
Speaker 6: Introduction to Energy Modeling course that's put on. It's a

932
00:54:04,975 --> 00:54:07,295
Speaker 6: bit of a road show from New Zealand Green Building

933
00:54:07,375 --> 00:54:10,535
Speaker 6: Council where they're inviting people in different centers to come along.

934
00:54:10,615 --> 00:54:13,655
Speaker 6: I know, going to Hamilton with diesel at whatever price

935
00:54:13,735 --> 00:54:16,095
Speaker 6: it is at the moment is foolish. But I couldn't

936
00:54:16,095 --> 00:54:18,055
Speaker 6: make the Aukland one. I really wanted to do the course,

937
00:54:18,095 --> 00:54:19,935
Speaker 6: so I shot down there. It also gave me an

938
00:54:19,935 --> 00:54:22,535
Speaker 6: opportunity to go and see my first boss in terms

939
00:54:22,575 --> 00:54:26,375
Speaker 6: of building. So Tom took me on as a very

940
00:54:26,415 --> 00:54:31,335
Speaker 6: young fella in nineteen eighty seven, and I built with

941
00:54:31,855 --> 00:54:34,215
Speaker 6: him for a couple of years before sort of going

942
00:54:34,255 --> 00:54:37,215
Speaker 6: out on my own. He's still hail and hearty and

943
00:54:38,015 --> 00:54:42,295
Speaker 6: full of ideas and passion and enthusiasm for building, hopefully

944
00:54:42,375 --> 00:54:44,735
Speaker 6: some of which I've picked up and held on to.

945
00:54:45,815 --> 00:54:48,015
Speaker 6: But just so lovely to have a cup of tea

946
00:54:48,055 --> 00:54:50,895
Speaker 6: with him and his wife and talk about building and

947
00:54:51,255 --> 00:54:52,535
Speaker 6: the old days and all the rest of it.

948
00:54:52,575 --> 00:54:53,895
Speaker 2: But that was shiver.

949
00:54:53,895 --> 00:54:56,975
Speaker 6: It's nineteen eighty seven, so that goes back awey way

950
00:54:57,015 --> 00:54:58,855
Speaker 6: as well. It was awesome. Oh, eight one hundred and

951
00:54:58,895 --> 00:55:00,775
Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty Hually I did a couple of other

952
00:55:00,815 --> 00:55:02,375
Speaker 6: little visits on the way down, so I'll tell you

953
00:55:02,375 --> 00:55:04,295
Speaker 6: about that a little bit later on in the show

954
00:55:04,375 --> 00:55:07,815
Speaker 6: as well. Remember after eight o'clock Phil McNamara from Brands.

955
00:55:07,815 --> 00:55:10,495
Speaker 6: We're going to be talking through the legislation governing these

956
00:55:10,735 --> 00:55:14,135
Speaker 6: simple standalone dwellings or granny flats. And then, as always

957
00:55:14,255 --> 00:55:16,655
Speaker 6: red client pass who I reached out to in a

958
00:55:17,135 --> 00:55:19,855
Speaker 6: private situation. Someone texts me and goes, what do you

959
00:55:19,895 --> 00:55:21,695
Speaker 6: think is happening here? So of course I send that

960
00:55:21,815 --> 00:55:24,455
Speaker 6: on to Rudd and he gives me a call and

961
00:55:24,535 --> 00:55:28,175
Speaker 6: tells me that could be nice. That's a deeply mysterious topic.

962
00:55:28,255 --> 00:55:31,455
Speaker 6: We'll get onto that after eight thirty with Rod right now, Mark,

963
00:55:31,615 --> 00:55:35,695
Speaker 6: a very good morning to you. It was this working Ah,

964
00:55:35,775 --> 00:55:36,815
Speaker 6: there you go, gotcha.

965
00:55:37,775 --> 00:55:42,495
Speaker 2: Greetings, get a keep smoking to you before.

966
00:55:42,615 --> 00:55:43,175
Speaker 4: So here we go.

967
00:55:44,135 --> 00:55:46,695
Speaker 12: This is this is way outside of my field, but

968
00:55:46,775 --> 00:55:48,735
Speaker 12: I've thought about it enough to say, look, I need

969
00:55:48,815 --> 00:55:49,175
Speaker 12: to give.

970
00:55:49,055 --> 00:55:51,295
Speaker 6: People walf Camp a call about this one good man.

971
00:55:51,575 --> 00:55:55,615
Speaker 2: So I own a old state house, yes.

972
00:55:56,375 --> 00:56:01,135
Speaker 12: Traditional, the three bedroom standalone up about three feet off

973
00:56:01,175 --> 00:56:04,335
Speaker 12: the ground, hip with the store with.

974
00:56:04,375 --> 00:56:06,975
Speaker 6: The concrete pedestal under the under the laundry for the

975
00:56:07,095 --> 00:56:08,495
Speaker 6: Kappa fantastic.

976
00:56:10,215 --> 00:56:11,695
Speaker 4: So anyway, my issue is.

977
00:56:11,775 --> 00:56:16,975
Speaker 13: I have filthy eggs and filthy facia, yes, and I

978
00:56:17,135 --> 00:56:19,735
Speaker 13: blasted them with a wit and forget a while back.

979
00:56:20,335 --> 00:56:23,135
Speaker 13: They come up pretty good. It actually come up pretty.

980
00:56:22,895 --> 00:56:26,655
Speaker 10: Good under the under the faith, under the eggs.

981
00:56:26,695 --> 00:56:27,615
Speaker 8: I was quite surprised.

982
00:56:28,455 --> 00:56:33,215
Speaker 12: But there's still some really filthy, dark black patches, and

983
00:56:33,535 --> 00:56:34,895
Speaker 12: the facia itself.

984
00:56:34,695 --> 00:56:36,615
Speaker 6: Is pretty pretty tarnished.

985
00:56:37,095 --> 00:56:38,015
Speaker 4: It's dark as.

986
00:56:38,055 --> 00:56:41,975
Speaker 12: Hack as well, and I'm wondering what sort of I've

987
00:56:42,015 --> 00:56:44,655
Speaker 12: given it a scrub with the house washbrush and I

988
00:56:44,735 --> 00:56:46,575
Speaker 12: didn't really do the job. So then I got on

989
00:56:46,695 --> 00:56:49,015
Speaker 12: the on the ladder and I went up with the

990
00:56:49,335 --> 00:56:52,455
Speaker 12: scrubber and that came up okay. But I'm a bit

991
00:56:52,535 --> 00:56:56,255
Speaker 12: concerned about how much moisture I can apply to clean

992
00:56:56,375 --> 00:56:59,855
Speaker 12: these before I start to potentially damage the eve because I.

993
00:56:59,855 --> 00:57:01,415
Speaker 13: Don't know how it dries.

994
00:57:01,695 --> 00:57:05,175
Speaker 12: Yeah, sure, that was my general concern is I don't

995
00:57:05,215 --> 00:57:07,975
Speaker 12: know anything about timber. I don't know anything about particle board.

996
00:57:08,055 --> 00:57:09,855
Speaker 4: But from that you don't want to get away.

997
00:57:11,855 --> 00:57:14,415
Speaker 12: So that's where I'm coming from about sort of how

998
00:57:14,535 --> 00:57:18,215
Speaker 12: to safely do that without harming the integrity of the timber.

999
00:57:19,135 --> 00:57:22,095
Speaker 6: I mean in terms of cleaning, you know, you're you're

1000
00:57:22,455 --> 00:57:26,735
Speaker 6: spraying water and solution onto the surface, and it's going

1001
00:57:26,855 --> 00:57:29,335
Speaker 6: to hang around on the surface, and then you're going

1002
00:57:29,375 --> 00:57:33,855
Speaker 6: to effectively dry it off right, so it's not like

1003
00:57:34,015 --> 00:57:37,735
Speaker 6: you're saturating the surface, and even if you did, it's

1004
00:57:37,775 --> 00:57:43,055
Speaker 6: a one off event. It'll dry out. But it sounds

1005
00:57:43,095 --> 00:57:45,815
Speaker 6: like you've done everything that you would typically do right.

1006
00:57:45,935 --> 00:57:49,935
Speaker 6: So maybe a treatment which is just a surface treatment,

1007
00:57:50,055 --> 00:57:55,975
Speaker 6: then you wash it off or depending on which pre

1008
00:57:56,335 --> 00:58:02,015
Speaker 6: wash treatment you've used. I I for obvious reasoned, yeah,

1009
00:58:03,295 --> 00:58:06,695
Speaker 6: there's a I would just go down to Razim to

1010
00:58:06,815 --> 00:58:10,455
Speaker 6: the color shop get their house wash and prep solution.

1011
00:58:11,375 --> 00:58:14,535
Speaker 6: It is incredibly effective. So I used it a little

1012
00:58:14,575 --> 00:58:17,215
Speaker 6: while ago on a bathroom ceiling that had been had

1013
00:58:17,215 --> 00:58:19,135
Speaker 6: a lot of mold and mildew on it and so on,

1014
00:58:19,695 --> 00:58:22,015
Speaker 6: and I was going to repaint anyway, but I wanted

1015
00:58:22,055 --> 00:58:23,935
Speaker 6: to make sure that i'd knocked off all of that

1016
00:58:24,055 --> 00:58:28,615
Speaker 6: sort of organic growth. So applied that you apply it,

1017
00:58:28,735 --> 00:58:30,775
Speaker 6: you'd let it soak on for a while, you rinse

1018
00:58:30,855 --> 00:58:35,295
Speaker 6: it off thoroughly, you let it dry, and then before

1019
00:58:35,295 --> 00:58:38,215
Speaker 6: you go and paint it. So I would take that approach.

1020
00:58:38,335 --> 00:58:41,975
Speaker 6: So the challenge is, obviously with an eve is that

1021
00:58:42,175 --> 00:58:44,495
Speaker 6: it's upside down, right, so everything wants to drip off.

1022
00:58:44,975 --> 00:58:47,775
Speaker 6: So maybe with a sponge, like with a good old

1023
00:58:47,815 --> 00:58:51,575
Speaker 6: fashioned squeegee. Make up your solution. Dip the squegee in there,

1024
00:58:51,855 --> 00:58:55,495
Speaker 6: use that to apply the product and agitate lightly, then

1025
00:58:55,575 --> 00:58:58,055
Speaker 6: rinse it off. The other thing is at a certain

1026
00:58:58,175 --> 00:59:04,135
Speaker 6: point things need repainting, right And I noticed it actually

1027
00:59:04,215 --> 00:59:09,615
Speaker 6: a balustrade that I built. Was it six years ago? Painted,

1028
00:59:10,415 --> 00:59:13,255
Speaker 6: looked after it, But because it's on a slightly shaded

1029
00:59:13,335 --> 00:59:14,695
Speaker 6: side of the house and all the rest of it,

1030
00:59:14,895 --> 00:59:17,895
Speaker 6: it had got some of that black mold and mild

1031
00:59:17,935 --> 00:59:20,255
Speaker 6: you on it. I cleaned it down. In the end

1032
00:59:20,335 --> 00:59:22,815
Speaker 6: the best solution was actually to clean it down and

1033
00:59:22,935 --> 00:59:26,895
Speaker 6: then repaint it. So at a certain point you're probably

1034
00:59:27,015 --> 00:59:29,175
Speaker 6: up for a repaint of the eaves and the facial

1035
00:59:29,215 --> 00:59:32,575
Speaker 6: board as well. Oh cheers please, I can't appreciate that

1036
00:59:32,815 --> 00:59:35,615
Speaker 6: trouble at all. Thank you mate, all the best, take

1037
00:59:35,695 --> 00:59:39,055
Speaker 6: care you and you be if you've got a couple

1038
00:59:39,095 --> 00:59:41,215
Speaker 6: of questions. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1039
00:59:41,295 --> 00:59:42,655
Speaker 6: that number to call um?

1040
00:59:44,055 --> 00:59:44,175
Speaker 7: Ah?

1041
00:59:44,295 --> 00:59:46,535
Speaker 6: Yes, the master builders one. This is interesting. Morning Peak

1042
00:59:47,575 --> 00:59:50,615
Speaker 6: just received notification from Master bild saying that our builder

1043
00:59:50,655 --> 00:59:52,735
Speaker 6: has said that they will rectify the claim we put in.

1044
00:59:53,535 --> 00:59:56,135
Speaker 6: How long would it take the builder to make contact

1045
00:59:56,175 --> 00:59:58,135
Speaker 6: with us to rectify great show, and thanks for your

1046
00:59:58,135 --> 01:00:09,455
Speaker 6: advice previously. In terms of legislation, you must respond and

1047
01:00:09,815 --> 01:00:13,895
Speaker 6: repair work that you're legally required to do within a year,

1048
01:00:16,015 --> 01:00:19,215
Speaker 6: which I know for some people that you listen to

1049
01:00:19,295 --> 01:00:21,535
Speaker 6: that and go criky, that seems like an awfully long

1050
01:00:21,615 --> 01:00:23,615
Speaker 6: time and all the rest of it. That's just what's

1051
01:00:23,615 --> 01:00:27,735
Speaker 6: set down. Ideally, if in this instance you've worked through

1052
01:00:27,775 --> 01:00:31,215
Speaker 6: a negotiated claim and the builders accepted that they need

1053
01:00:31,295 --> 01:00:33,655
Speaker 6: to come back and do some remedia work, you'd like

1054
01:00:33,735 --> 01:00:36,735
Speaker 6: to think that they'd prioritize it, but it just becomes

1055
01:00:36,775 --> 01:00:39,615
Speaker 6: a professional thing in that sense that you know, if

1056
01:00:39,655 --> 01:00:41,415
Speaker 6: you're going to have to go back and fix something,

1057
01:00:41,615 --> 01:00:44,375
Speaker 6: the sooner you get it done, the better for your

1058
01:00:44,455 --> 01:00:50,615
Speaker 6: reputation and to keep a client happy. Because human nature

1059
01:00:50,655 --> 01:00:53,695
Speaker 6: being what human nature is, you know, if you've accepted

1060
01:00:53,735 --> 01:00:55,735
Speaker 6: that there's some work that you need to fix, the

1061
01:00:55,935 --> 01:01:00,095
Speaker 6: longer you the longer gap between accepting that you need

1062
01:01:00,175 --> 01:01:02,815
Speaker 6: to go back and actually getting back. The longer you

1063
01:01:02,935 --> 01:01:05,215
Speaker 6: leave that there's an exponential growth of the number of

1064
01:01:05,295 --> 01:01:07,535
Speaker 6: things that someone's going to find to fix as well.

1065
01:01:07,655 --> 01:01:11,215
Speaker 6: So if the contractor is smart, they'll be there as

1066
01:01:11,255 --> 01:01:13,415
Speaker 6: soon as possible. But I think from a legal point

1067
01:01:13,415 --> 01:01:16,255
Speaker 6: of view, it's one year that you have that you

1068
01:01:16,375 --> 01:01:18,895
Speaker 6: can potentially be waiting for someone to come and fix

1069
01:01:18,975 --> 01:01:21,215
Speaker 6: things like that. Pam A very good morning.

1070
01:01:22,255 --> 01:01:24,655
Speaker 14: Yes, good morning to you. I'll just pull over, sorry,

1071
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Speaker 14: not driving, thank you. I've got a situation. I've purchased

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Speaker 14: a nineteen seventies brick home that needs a full reget

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Speaker 14: revent renovation. So it's quite extensive. And we've pulled off

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01:01:40,775 --> 01:01:43,855
Speaker 14: the jibballs on the inside because it wasn't insulation, and

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01:01:43,935 --> 01:01:48,615
Speaker 14: we're going to put the building paper and the insulation in. Yes,

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01:01:48,895 --> 01:01:52,495
Speaker 14: and I'm replacing the aluminium journey and I've got I

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01:01:52,575 --> 01:01:55,295
Speaker 14: don't know what to do. I've got two opinions from

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Speaker 14: Aluminium joining Countley's. One says two more breaks and the

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Speaker 14: other one says ordinary double blazing. I've had ordinary before

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Speaker 14: and it does get condensation on inside. Where I'm living now,

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Speaker 14: I've got some thermal break windows.

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Speaker 11: It's great.

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01:02:12,415 --> 01:02:13,735
Speaker 8: There's never any connentation.

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Speaker 14: What am I supposed to do?

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Speaker 6: Okay? Can I throw into the mix another thought for you?

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Speaker 6: So if you are going to replace the so it's

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Speaker 6: it's a nineteen seventies unit, but it's aluminium joinery, so

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Speaker 6: to be very early elements.

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Speaker 14: It's got wooden joy's at the end of its flight.

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, I mean wooden joinery. One of the

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01:02:38,255 --> 01:02:41,575
Speaker 6: things that's an advantage is that it's often repairrable. But

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Speaker 6: at the same time I accept that if it's if

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01:02:44,095 --> 01:02:46,415
Speaker 6: the advice is that it's end of life, then you're

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Speaker 6: going to look to replace it. In terms of thermal performance,

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01:02:50,255 --> 01:02:52,695
Speaker 6: the closest you'll get to the timber, because timbers are

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Speaker 6: very good thermal or provides less opportunity for a thermal break,

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01:02:59,135 --> 01:03:05,295
Speaker 6: sorry for a thermal bridging. Then have you considered uPVC?

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Speaker 14: I did look at her. I live in the central

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Speaker 14: White Chatto. I couldn't find anybody around here who did it.

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Speaker 6: There will be people out there, you know, it's worth considering.

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Speaker 6: And funnily enough, I got someone in Auckland, another little

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Speaker 6: job that I'm involved with, needed to replace a timber frame.

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Speaker 6: It's like yours reached the end of life. I had

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Speaker 6: GW windows come. They're going to do a uPVC insert right,

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Speaker 6: So in terms of the thermal performance, the uPVC is

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01:03:40,095 --> 01:03:42,495
Speaker 6: very very good, and so i'd hunt around. If you

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Speaker 6: can do a house lot, i'd certainly hunt around and

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Speaker 6: consider that, and certainly for your older building, it's the

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01:03:50,935 --> 01:03:54,255
Speaker 6: glazing is that last week point. So if you've gone

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Speaker 6: through retrofitted insulation into the exterior walls, you're going to

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01:03:58,695 --> 01:04:01,975
Speaker 6: upgrade the joinery as in the frames, and then you're

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Speaker 6: going to add double glazing. I presume it's accessible underneath,

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01:04:05,295 --> 01:04:08,575
Speaker 6: so you can add more insulation to the underfloor space

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01:04:10,415 --> 01:04:17,215
Speaker 6: concrete slab. Okay, all right, so theoretically, well not theoretically,

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01:04:17,495 --> 01:04:19,335
Speaker 6: there will be a bit of heat loss through the

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01:04:19,375 --> 01:04:22,655
Speaker 6: concrete slab, but that's unavoidable now, right, There's not a

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01:04:22,735 --> 01:04:26,175
Speaker 6: lot that you can do to retrofit that. But doing

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01:04:26,215 --> 01:04:30,095
Speaker 6: the walls, doing the windows, doing the ceiling will make

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Speaker 6: a massive difference to their comfort inside that house, without

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Speaker 6: a doubt.

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Speaker 14: Okay, one more little question. Sure not all the windows

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01:04:38,495 --> 01:04:40,975
Speaker 14: are at the end of their use by day. Some

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Speaker 14: of them are. You could you know if I have

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01:04:47,535 --> 01:04:48,415
Speaker 14: scraped them down?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Sure?

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Speaker 14: So would you say keep those ones?

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Speaker 6: I guess there's a consistency issue where you go, hey,

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Speaker 6: would it be better if the whole house had the

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01:05:00,575 --> 01:05:05,295
Speaker 6: same joinery? Yes, But I also understand that these things

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01:05:05,335 --> 01:05:08,295
Speaker 6: are all also always about budget, right, So if you

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01:05:08,495 --> 01:05:10,695
Speaker 6: picked it and went, look, these are the ones that

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01:05:10,815 --> 01:05:12,975
Speaker 6: are really worn, or these are the ones that are

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01:05:13,015 --> 01:05:15,775
Speaker 6: definitely end of life. I'm going to do those and

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01:05:15,935 --> 01:05:18,695
Speaker 6: some others I might repair, and can I say too,

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01:05:19,055 --> 01:05:24,415
Speaker 6: if you're thinking about essentially mixing and matching, you might

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01:05:24,495 --> 01:05:27,215
Speaker 6: want to consider the uPVC because in a sense, it

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01:05:27,335 --> 01:05:31,535
Speaker 6: looks a lot more like your timber joinery. Ok, it's

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01:05:31,655 --> 01:05:37,055
Speaker 6: not quite as contrasting. Let's say. The other issue, or

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01:05:37,055 --> 01:05:40,015
Speaker 6: the other option with some of the uPVC inserts is

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01:05:40,175 --> 01:05:45,695
Speaker 6: that you can remove like the sash or the and

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01:05:45,815 --> 01:05:49,255
Speaker 6: the mullions and that sort of thing, keep the actual

1143
01:05:49,615 --> 01:05:53,775
Speaker 6: timber frame and insert the new joinery into there. So

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01:05:53,895 --> 01:05:58,735
Speaker 6: it makes the process of replacing part of the joinery

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01:05:59,615 --> 01:06:03,175
Speaker 6: a lot more straightforward, because otherwise, you know, like if

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01:06:03,215 --> 01:06:06,095
Speaker 6: you're taking a timber window out and putting in, for example,

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01:06:06,335 --> 01:06:08,855
Speaker 6: new element, can you retro for the elment. I'm not sure.

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01:06:09,815 --> 01:06:12,575
Speaker 6: You know, you've got all of the junctions and the

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01:06:12,855 --> 01:06:15,295
Speaker 6: contact with the brick work and the sill and all

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01:06:15,335 --> 01:06:18,095
Speaker 6: the rest of it. Whereas, and that's the reason that

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01:06:18,775 --> 01:06:21,935
Speaker 6: I've gone for a uPVC insert into this existing window

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01:06:22,135 --> 01:06:24,535
Speaker 6: is it's the sash that has reached the end of

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01:06:24,575 --> 01:06:27,255
Speaker 6: its life, the frame is okay, I don't want to

1154
01:06:27,295 --> 01:06:29,575
Speaker 6: have to redo the flashings and so on, so we'll

1155
01:06:29,575 --> 01:06:32,135
Speaker 6: simply pull that sash out and insert a new window

1156
01:06:32,295 --> 01:06:37,895
Speaker 6: into the existing opening and job done. So you have

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01:06:37,975 --> 01:06:41,815
Speaker 6: a look. Just go to the Stark website. So S

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Speaker 6: T A r K yeah, dot co dot NZ the

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01:06:45,495 --> 01:06:49,735
Speaker 6: uPVC window. They've also got contractors that work in the

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01:06:49,815 --> 01:06:53,615
Speaker 6: retro fit space. All right, we give them a call

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Speaker 6: on Monday.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, because the quotes I've got are over thirty k

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01:06:57,895 --> 01:07:02,015
Speaker 14: for a three bedroom house with an attached single garage

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01:07:02,335 --> 01:07:04,695
Speaker 14: basically of one hundred and thirty square meters.

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Speaker 8: So it's eye wateringly expensive and I want to.

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Speaker 7: Do the best.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, but I don't want to be a cheap skating

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Speaker 14: agreement later.

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01:07:14,255 --> 01:07:16,695
Speaker 6: No, look, it's it's a I mean to be fair.

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01:07:16,815 --> 01:07:22,695
Speaker 6: Thirty k sounds kind of reasonable, but yeah, but if

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01:07:22,735 --> 01:07:25,575
Speaker 6: you can get the performance out of it again potentially

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01:07:25,655 --> 01:07:28,815
Speaker 6: by doing uPVC, then I'd look at that.

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Speaker 14: Because one of the people said to me, oh, you've

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Speaker 14: got an air gap between your bricks and you're in

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01:07:36,735 --> 01:07:41,015
Speaker 14: you're where the insulation is. The thermal break won't work

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Speaker 14: because you've got that break there and that's going to

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Speaker 14: be cold.

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Speaker 6: True, true, but not true. So I think a thermal

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Speaker 6: bridge is what we're talking about. And the thermal bridge

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01:07:53,695 --> 01:07:57,455
Speaker 6: is a way for heat to be transferred through a

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Speaker 6: building element.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 6: So in this case, if you're talking about your existing

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01:08:02,855 --> 01:08:06,175
Speaker 6: aluminium jowinery, it's aluminum from the inside to the outside.

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Speaker 6: Aluminiums are very very good conductor, and so even when

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01:08:10,895 --> 01:08:14,455
Speaker 6: you upgrade the joinery of the glazing to double glazed,

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01:08:14,535 --> 01:08:16,895
Speaker 6: you'll still have that heat transfer through there, and so

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01:08:17,015 --> 01:08:20,855
Speaker 6: you'll often see condensation around the perimeter of a window.

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Speaker 6: So what you're looking for is a thermal brake, and

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Speaker 6: you can do that with aluminium by using a particular extrusion.

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Speaker 6: Timber obviously is a quite good insulator, but in terms

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Speaker 6: of someone describing that cavity as a thermal brake, close

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01:08:40,975 --> 01:08:44,015
Speaker 6: but not close enough. So the brick works by having

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01:08:44,095 --> 01:08:47,215
Speaker 6: some ventilation behind it. That's how it dries out. So

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Speaker 6: by putting insulation into the wall framing and by using

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Speaker 6: some building wrap, so you'll do pieces of building wrap

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Speaker 6: inside each segment, then putting your insulation. The advantage to

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Speaker 6: that is you're keeping that air gap at the back,

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Speaker 6: which allows for ventilation and drying behind your brickwork. You

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01:09:05,335 --> 01:09:07,695
Speaker 6: won't get a lot of air tightness because it's really

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Speaker 6: difficult to do with retrofitting insulation in the way that

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01:09:12,535 --> 01:09:15,695
Speaker 6: you're going to do it. But putting insulation in there,

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01:09:15,855 --> 01:09:18,535
Speaker 6: putting the building wrap in as best you can and

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01:09:18,895 --> 01:09:21,135
Speaker 6: try and be as diligent with that process as you

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01:09:21,335 --> 01:09:24,055
Speaker 6: possibly can will make a huge benefit. And it keeps

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01:09:24,095 --> 01:09:26,895
Speaker 6: the integrity of the brickwork, which is great. Sounds like

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01:09:26,975 --> 01:09:28,295
Speaker 6: a fantastic project.

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Speaker 14: It's and I'm going to paint the exterior.

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Speaker 6: Will that make any difference onto paint over the brickwork.

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Speaker 14: Yes, it's Summit's doin.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to paint.

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01:09:38,615 --> 01:09:42,415
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, no, I mean look at it changes the

1213
01:09:42,455 --> 01:09:45,415
Speaker 6: way you know, obviously you're going to get less absorption

1214
01:09:45,575 --> 01:09:48,735
Speaker 6: of moisture into the brick because you're sealing the surface

1215
01:09:48,815 --> 01:09:53,815
Speaker 6: with a paint. That's probably not a bad thing. Thank you,

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01:09:55,095 --> 01:09:58,135
Speaker 6: my pleasure, take care, all the best things bother you

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01:09:58,215 --> 01:10:00,055
Speaker 6: and new stalks that'd be. Will take a break and

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01:10:00,135 --> 01:10:02,415
Speaker 6: we'll be back with more of your calls in a moment.

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Speaker 2: Oh into She'll be right.

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Speaker 1: The Visited Builder with Peter Wilfscam and Independent Building supplies

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01:10:10,495 --> 01:10:12,055
Speaker 1: the future of Kiwi building.

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01:10:12,295 --> 01:10:16,295
Speaker 2: Today call eight hundred eighty ten eighty news Talk ZB.

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01:10:18,655 --> 01:10:21,615
Speaker 6: To see how jayframe is used with these relocatable and

1224
01:10:21,775 --> 01:10:24,095
Speaker 6: modular homes. And we're joined by Kevin Taylor who's the

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01:10:24,135 --> 01:10:29,095
Speaker 6: business manager at leisure Coom Homes based in Hotapu and Cambridge.

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01:10:29,255 --> 01:10:33,975
Speaker 6: Now leisure Coom specializes in turnkey, modular and relocatable homes

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01:10:34,255 --> 01:10:38,655
Speaker 6: delivering high quality, factory built homes throughout Auckland, Northland, the

1228
01:10:38,695 --> 01:10:41,615
Speaker 6: Bay of Plenty right across the North Island. Kevin, great

1229
01:10:41,655 --> 01:10:44,455
Speaker 6: to have you with us, Thanks, Peter, good to be

1230
01:10:44,535 --> 01:10:48,335
Speaker 6: here right. So how long has jframe been part of

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01:10:48,455 --> 01:10:51,895
Speaker 6: the leisure Coom system and what initiated the change?

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01:10:53,535 --> 01:10:56,895
Speaker 15: Good question, Peter, leisure Coom decided to move from the

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01:10:57,015 --> 01:11:02,095
Speaker 15: traditional SGA to jframe about sixty seven years ago for

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01:11:02,295 --> 01:11:04,855
Speaker 15: all our new home builds, which was very much driven

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01:11:05,135 --> 01:11:10,215
Speaker 15: to continue to deliver superior built home batch for our

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01:11:10,295 --> 01:11:14,215
Speaker 15: longevity and maintenance free in utilizing the strong product.

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01:11:15,455 --> 01:11:17,735
Speaker 6: So what stood out for you and the team at

1238
01:11:17,775 --> 01:11:21,015
Speaker 6: leisure con when you first started using j frame. What changed?

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01:11:22,495 --> 01:11:27,815
Speaker 15: The real standout was was the accuracy and the timbersizing

1240
01:11:28,055 --> 01:11:31,175
Speaker 15: that we found dimensionally true and straight due to it

1241
01:11:31,255 --> 01:11:35,775
Speaker 15: being a manufactured product. This really saved us substantial time

1242
01:11:35,935 --> 01:11:39,295
Speaker 15: and straightening our homes and ready for pre lineers. You'd

1243
01:11:39,375 --> 01:11:43,615
Speaker 15: understand to get through the inspections. Well, a part that

1244
01:11:43,735 --> 01:11:46,695
Speaker 15: we saw then was they stayed true and straight, so

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01:11:47,095 --> 01:11:50,135
Speaker 15: our homes stay at a really high quality without that

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01:11:50,695 --> 01:11:55,695
Speaker 15: movement over the seasonal climate changes. A final part was

1247
01:11:55,855 --> 01:12:01,415
Speaker 15: the reliable and with straight and durable products that again

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01:12:01,575 --> 01:12:05,495
Speaker 15: aligns with our quality and perhuticoa Frame and Trust who

1249
01:12:05,695 --> 01:12:09,095
Speaker 15: make and menu factory our frames do a great job

1250
01:12:09,175 --> 01:12:10,935
Speaker 15: in delivering us a good product.

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01:12:11,055 --> 01:12:12,615
Speaker 6: Because of course, you know, we're all used to a

1252
01:12:12,655 --> 01:12:14,615
Speaker 6: bit of movement, but most of us don't put our

1253
01:12:14,655 --> 01:12:17,335
Speaker 6: houses on a barge and move it around. So you're

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01:12:17,415 --> 01:12:20,135
Speaker 6: transporting the houses, so they've got to be particularly rigid.

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01:12:21,575 --> 01:12:22,495
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct.

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01:12:22,575 --> 01:12:26,455
Speaker 15: We're probably the building company who tests the strength of

1257
01:12:26,535 --> 01:12:31,255
Speaker 15: our house most and again the strength of jayframe is

1258
01:12:31,415 --> 01:12:35,535
Speaker 15: what really comes into play. We know as a business

1259
01:12:35,615 --> 01:12:38,735
Speaker 15: we can be really confident whether we're transporting the homes

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01:12:39,095 --> 01:12:41,375
Speaker 15: anywhere in the North Island, putting them on a barge,

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01:12:42,135 --> 01:12:44,855
Speaker 15: or we do two story modular homes so we crane

1262
01:12:44,895 --> 01:12:48,855
Speaker 15: them into position as well and end product, great condition,

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01:12:49,215 --> 01:12:50,335
Speaker 15: really happy clients.

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01:12:50,775 --> 01:12:53,615
Speaker 6: So any tips for builders listening today that might be

1265
01:12:53,735 --> 01:12:54,575
Speaker 6: new to Jframe.

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01:12:56,135 --> 01:12:58,975
Speaker 15: Yeah, I've thought a bit about this question and it's

1267
01:12:59,015 --> 01:12:59,655
Speaker 15: pretty simple.

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01:12:59,775 --> 01:13:00,015
Speaker 4: Really.

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01:13:00,175 --> 01:13:03,175
Speaker 15: If you want to build a great product, Jayframe is

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01:13:03,255 --> 01:13:06,095
Speaker 15: one of the key products to achieve that true and

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01:13:06,415 --> 01:13:09,055
Speaker 15: accurate built home. You know, it's faultless.

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01:13:09,095 --> 01:13:09,375
Speaker 4: Really.

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01:13:10,095 --> 01:13:13,295
Speaker 6: Hey, now, leisure Com, what's different about your modular and

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01:13:13,375 --> 01:13:14,455
Speaker 6: relocatable homes?

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01:13:16,575 --> 01:13:18,415
Speaker 15: I had a whole page to go here, mate, so

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01:13:18,455 --> 01:13:20,175
Speaker 15: I had to shorten it up a little bit. But

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01:13:20,975 --> 01:13:24,535
Speaker 15: look a couple of key points. Leisure Comm's quality finishes

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01:13:24,695 --> 01:13:27,975
Speaker 15: before the build leaves our factory at how tapoo fully

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01:13:28,055 --> 01:13:29,375
Speaker 15: complete code of compliance.

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01:13:29,495 --> 01:13:32,655
Speaker 4: You know, this can include toll showers, whatever.

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01:13:32,375 --> 01:13:33,255
Speaker 6: The client wants.

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Speaker 15: And another real standout is our on site management team

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Speaker 15: that allows us to take the build through to full

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Speaker 15: turnkey contracts for clients, which is a real plus. And

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Speaker 15: they know that the total build is being managed from

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Speaker 15: start to finish in a timely manner. You know, when

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Speaker 15: you reflect back something that I sort of reflected on

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Speaker 15: myself that we're really proud of, and Rob the director

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Speaker 15: says a lot is our referral rate that we get

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Speaker 15: from past clients, and I just think it's a real

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Speaker 15: testament to the twenty five years of leisure common business one.

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Speaker 6: Now, we know it's been tough, but what do you

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Speaker 6: reckon twenty twenty six looks like for leisure Com.

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Speaker 15: As I just said, first and foremost, we're celebrating twenty

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Speaker 15: five years in business this year, which is pretty exciting

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Speaker 15: and shows a pretty good strength of our brand. We're

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Speaker 15: always looking to progress in our industry where the builds

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Speaker 15: are first home buyers, beach homes, multi level and we

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Speaker 15: we're trying to be at the forefront. I guess in

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Speaker 15: a reflection, we're just prepared for another challenging year, but

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Speaker 15: excited about more people choosing to have a home built

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Speaker 15: in a controlled environment like ours to avoid the modern

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Speaker 15: weather patterns, costly delays and see some real growth back

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Speaker 15: in our industry for an exciting year.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely. Hey, what's the best way for listeners to get

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Speaker 6: a hold of you?

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Speaker 15: Either check out our website dub dub dub dot leisurecom,

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Speaker 15: dot co, dot m Z, or give us a call

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01:15:00,015 --> 01:15:02,055
Speaker 15: for a chat with any any of the team here

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Speaker 15: O seven eight two, three, five nine five one and

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Speaker 15: will help guide anyone through the process right from the start.

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Speaker 7: Mate.

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Speaker 6: Awesome to talk with you, Kevin, Thanks very much, and

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Speaker 6: folks to learn more about Duke and check out JNL

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Speaker 6: dot co dot nz zed be your news talk seid

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Speaker 6: B and we're taking your calls right up to eight o'clock.

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Speaker 6: After eight o'clock, we're taking a deep dive into this

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Speaker 6: whole granny flat legislation, the rules and regulations. So Phil

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Speaker 6: mcnarara from Brands is one of the team who's been

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Speaker 6: part of the research for a recent bulletin that Brands

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Speaker 6: puts out. So it's bulletin number seven oh four b

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Speaker 6: U seven oh four has a really good thorough breakdown

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Speaker 6: of all of the rules and regulations, the what you

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Speaker 6: have to do, who you have to talk to, what

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Speaker 6: type of tradees you might talk to, and we're going

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Speaker 6: to run through that with Phil after eight o'clock. Will

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Speaker 6: take your calls right up to eight Suzanne, good morning,

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Speaker 6: Thanks for waiting. Good morning, greetings.

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Speaker 5: So we built a hout well, we had a have built.

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Speaker 5: We moved in in twenty twenty three by a reputable

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Speaker 5: company and loved the build. There were a few odds

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Speaker 5: and thoughts that you know that caused trouble, as there

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Speaker 5: always are, and they came in fixed those. So then

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Speaker 5: two years later we noticed that the paint around the

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Speaker 5: windows were crackened. Yea, and so it cracked and it

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Speaker 5: literally sort of went back. You could see the board,

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Speaker 5: you know, the timber under it. And so we contacted

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Speaker 5: the firm and they said that we have a year

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Speaker 5: with which to share any concerns that we have, and

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Speaker 5: that it was two years. And you know, they one

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Speaker 5: of them said, well, you know, you can come back

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Speaker 5: to us in five or ten years. I said, well,

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Speaker 5: we're not doing it. We're coming back at two years.

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Speaker 5: I would have thought a brand new home should I

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01:17:16,895 --> 01:17:20,655
Speaker 5: would have thought the paint should last longer than two years.

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Speaker 5: They just they seem they are very reluctant to do

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Speaker 5: anything about it.

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Speaker 6: Just how that just just quickly, can you just when

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Speaker 6: you say the paint is cracking, so is it the

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01:17:33,695 --> 01:17:38,295
Speaker 6: painted surface that's cracking? So a junction? Okay, so it's

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Speaker 6: not the paint itself, it's the actual substrate.

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Speaker 5: No, it's the paint. So right, you know, like the

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Speaker 5: whole you know the height of the whole window, there's

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Speaker 5: just a crack that runs right up it. And now

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Speaker 5: the crack cracking the paint, and you can see these

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Speaker 5: timber underneath the you know, underneath where the paint was.

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Speaker 5: It kind of almost looks like the paint hasn't even stept. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I would, but they are very reluctant to accept any

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Speaker 5: responsibility for it. And you know, we're not really sure

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Speaker 5: what to you know, what to do. Do we have

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Speaker 5: any recourse or do we not.

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Speaker 6: I tell you what I'm going to have to because

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Speaker 6: I know what they're saying in terms of a year,

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Speaker 6: and there is a guidance around, you know that certain

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Speaker 6: types of things can be must be addressed within a year.

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Speaker 6: But then I would have thought that there is a

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Speaker 6: warranty on the paint work that would extend beyond that.

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Speaker 6: So I wonder whether they're using one excuse to cover

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Speaker 6: something else. But I need to go away and do

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Speaker 6: some work on it, which I might only get time

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Speaker 6: to do during the course of the week. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: I can we part this, and I promise i'll during

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Speaker 6: the course of the week, and then I'll mention it

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Speaker 6: again next week on the sho show, ideally around the

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Speaker 6: same time, if that helps you. But that's a really

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01:19:10,135 --> 01:19:12,375
Speaker 6: interesting one, and I'll certainly go and talk to a

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Speaker 6: couple of painting contractors around what their obligations are. Thanks

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01:19:17,935 --> 01:19:20,495
Speaker 6: very much for that. And look, I can understand it's

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Speaker 6: a bit troubling if it's a relatively new build, which

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Speaker 6: it is, and you're getting that sort of defect already.

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Speaker 6: So thanks very much for That's an interesting issue coming

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Speaker 6: up seven to fifty here at news Talk, said b

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Speaker 6: we will take short break, me back with you.

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Speaker 2: In a moment, helping you finish that vibe. But it fixed.

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Speaker 1: You started the resident builder with Peter Wilfcamp and Independent

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Speaker 1: Building Supplies the future of Kiwi Building today call oh

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 6: We might have solved the mystery about the masking tape

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Speaker 6: as well. Thank you, Wendy. Good morning, Pete Tummia as

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Speaker 6: in the model makers masking tape for curves Tammia masking

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Speaker 6: tape PB Tech. Apparently I've got it brilliant. Thank you

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01:20:05,775 --> 01:20:08,175
Speaker 6: very much for that. I could go on to a

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Speaker 6: whole long thing about making models as a kid, but

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Speaker 6: I'll park that for another day. Brian, greetings, good morning.

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Speaker 2: How are you very well?

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Speaker 16: Good? I'm looking for I've done three quarters of the house.

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Speaker 16: It's only three bedrooms to do, and I've done the

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Speaker 16: whole house, except in these street bedrooms. With lining paper,

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Speaker 16: you put it over the top of the wallpaper, one

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Speaker 16: hundred times better than wallpaper ever been, and you lay

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Speaker 16: it long ways, and I can not buy any of it.

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Speaker 16: I've looked everywhere, been into all the shops here in Hamilton,

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Speaker 16: and some of them just looking at me as a blink.

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Speaker 16: And I've been debudding, say had it that they haven't

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01:20:54,415 --> 01:20:58,255
Speaker 16: got any them not bringing anymore into the anything. Do

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01:20:58,295 --> 01:20:59,695
Speaker 16: you know where I can pick some up?

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Speaker 6: The lining paper? Is it a little bit like an

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Speaker 6: Anaglypta type paper or is it smooth?

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01:21:07,255 --> 01:21:09,935
Speaker 16: It's slight wallpaper, but it's a little bit thick of

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01:21:09,975 --> 01:21:13,135
Speaker 16: the wallpaper, right, and it's got nothing on it. Let's

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Speaker 16: just pray and you paid over it and it makes

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Speaker 16: a damn good job. And when you join it, you

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01:21:20,095 --> 01:21:23,175
Speaker 16: just lay it long ways and you just push it

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Speaker 16: up and it meets really nice. And if it's gets

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01:21:27,495 --> 01:21:29,815
Speaker 16: a bit, you know someplaces you might be a little

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01:21:29,815 --> 01:21:32,135
Speaker 16: bit rough, you just send it back a little bit

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Speaker 16: with about two hundred and forty yeap and paper and

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Speaker 16: it looks really, really nice.

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Speaker 6: I've just done the old quick search online and one

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Speaker 6: of the first that's is Bunnings have got it. Hayden

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Speaker 6: twenty meters of white lining paper paste, the paper economical

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Speaker 6: heavy duty.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah, So I've been.

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Speaker 16: I've been to putting Z boast or z in Hamilton

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01:21:58,015 --> 01:22:00,295
Speaker 16: and Nato David. They said they're not bringing.

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Speaker 6: Anymore right, Look, you might just have to get it

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Speaker 6: ordered in online and so on, or just ring through

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01:22:08,215 --> 01:22:10,055
Speaker 6: to their main line and get someone to bring it in.

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01:22:10,175 --> 01:22:13,015
Speaker 6: But it does pop up on the website. A couple

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01:22:13,055 --> 01:22:14,935
Speaker 6: of other companies have got it as well. But interesting

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Speaker 6: lan enopisode does Bunnings Radio After the News, Sporting Weather,

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01:22:19,255 --> 01:22:21,775
Speaker 6: Top of the Air at eight, a deep dive into

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Speaker 6: Granny Flats. So Phil McNamara from Brands is going to

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01:22:25,775 --> 01:22:28,855
Speaker 6: join me and I'm going to be the person that's

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01:22:28,895 --> 01:22:31,775
Speaker 6: asking the questions. He's got all the answers. After the News.

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Speaker 2: Where di Y gets unstuck Cool.

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Speaker 1: The Resident Builder with Peter WILFCAM and Independent Building supplies

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01:22:42,775 --> 01:22:46,135
Speaker 1: the future of Kiwi Building Today, News Dogs, there Be.

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Speaker 6: Radio, Good Morning, Welcome back to the program. It's six

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Speaker 6: minutes after eight and in just a moment we're going

1441
01:22:51,255 --> 01:22:52,975
Speaker 6: to have a chat with Phil McNamara. We're going to

1442
01:22:53,055 --> 01:22:58,095
Speaker 6: run through this small dwellings exempt from consent. All of

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01:22:58,135 --> 01:23:00,535
Speaker 6: the rules and regulations were most of them. Anyway, we'll

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01:23:00,575 --> 01:23:02,775
Speaker 6: talk about with Phil in just a moment. First up,

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Speaker 6: Independent Building Supplies have been helping Kiwis build better for

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01:23:05,775 --> 01:23:08,215
Speaker 6: over thirty years. There are a family owned New Zealand

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Speaker 6: business and they really know their stuff. From plywood and

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Speaker 6: fiber cement sheet through to oriented strand board or OSB.

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Speaker 6: They supply the products you'll find on building sites right

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Speaker 6: across the country every single day. Quality materials sourced from

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Speaker 6: some of the world's leading manufacturers. They've created smart systems

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Speaker 6: barrier system that handles both bracing and air barrier performance

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Speaker 6: in one go. Means less fast, less time on site,

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Speaker 6: better outcomes, outcomes for a compliant, more sustainable build. Whether

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Speaker 6: it's a family home or a large commercial project. Independent

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Speaker 6: Building Supplies works closely with merchants, builders and architects. You'll

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Speaker 6: always get reliable materials, experts, support and a genuine focus

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Speaker 6: on making the whole build process simpler and more efficient

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01:23:53,975 --> 01:23:57,375
Speaker 6: because at the end of the day. New Zealand deserves stronger, warmer,

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Speaker 6: better buildings. Independent building supplies the future of Kiwi building today,

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01:24:02,535 --> 01:24:07,015
Speaker 6: righty Oh. Now, of all of the topics that we've

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01:24:07,055 --> 01:24:08,855
Speaker 6: had on the show over the last couple of years,

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01:24:09,855 --> 01:24:13,535
Speaker 6: this one perhaps has brought with it a fairly high

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01:24:14,055 --> 01:24:20,335
Speaker 6: level of inquiry, let's say, and I think unfortunately the

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01:24:20,415 --> 01:24:23,375
Speaker 6: way in which it was initially presented it felt like

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Speaker 6: there were no rules. Well, Phil, as we both know, Phil,

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Speaker 6: you and I both being tradees, there are always rules

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Speaker 6: when it comes to building. So let's run through this

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01:24:34,215 --> 01:24:38,815
Speaker 6: guidance around the small buildings exempt from consents. Phil, very

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Speaker 6: good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 10: Yes, I was a builder also, so yeah, joining Joining Brands,

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Speaker 10: I do like to bring a voice for builders here

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Speaker 10: at Brands. I just to point out that we are

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Speaker 10: an independent organizations that we don't set or enforce the rules,

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01:24:54,775 --> 01:24:56,855
Speaker 10: but we have the expertise here that you know, can

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01:24:56,975 --> 01:24:58,015
Speaker 10: help provide guidance.

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Speaker 6: Excellent. So what I thought we'd do is, let's imagine

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Speaker 6: that I want to build one of these small dwellings

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Speaker 6: granny flat for want of a better term, or simple

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Speaker 6: standalone dwellings at my own property. Now I can't because

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01:25:13,735 --> 01:25:16,935
Speaker 6: I simply don't have enough space. And I guess too.

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Speaker 6: The other thing is a lot of the focus has

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Speaker 6: been on seventy square meters, but that doesn't mean that

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01:25:21,775 --> 01:25:23,935
Speaker 6: you have to build seventy. Of course, you could build

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Speaker 6: thirty square meters, forty square meters, fifty square meters, whatever

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Speaker 6: it is that's going to suit an individual purpose. So

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Speaker 6: if I was to start and I look out at

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Speaker 6: my backyard and I go right, that's where it's going

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Speaker 6: to go. What's the first step that I need to

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01:25:41,455 --> 01:25:45,775
Speaker 6: do in terms of understanding what the regulations are. Do

1493
01:25:45,935 --> 01:25:49,215
Speaker 6: I need to look at planning regulations for the town?

1494
01:25:49,455 --> 01:25:53,815
Speaker 6: Do I need to think about the you know, where

1495
01:25:53,855 --> 01:25:55,855
Speaker 6: I can put it? How big, how far away from

1496
01:25:55,895 --> 01:25:59,655
Speaker 6: the neighbour's property, how far away from my own house?

1497
01:26:00,295 --> 01:26:02,695
Speaker 6: Where do I start with the guidance?

1498
01:26:04,855 --> 01:26:08,615
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, so first off, you're absolutely correct, you need

1499
01:26:08,695 --> 01:26:12,175
Speaker 10: to have enough for that clear space. So I would

1500
01:26:12,615 --> 01:26:14,695
Speaker 10: have a walk around my yard and make sure you

1501
01:26:14,815 --> 01:26:17,095
Speaker 10: just be aware of the main ones that it has

1502
01:26:17,135 --> 01:26:17,575
Speaker 10: to be new.

1503
01:26:17,775 --> 01:26:19,095
Speaker 2: It has to be a single story.

1504
01:26:19,295 --> 01:26:21,975
Speaker 10: It has to be stand alone. It cannot be an

1505
01:26:21,975 --> 01:26:25,775
Speaker 10: addition or alterations, or it's a steam building. Another one

1506
01:26:25,895 --> 01:26:28,815
Speaker 10: is it's got to be two meters away from any

1507
01:26:28,895 --> 01:26:33,855
Speaker 10: other residential building or legal boundary. There's also one meter

1508
01:26:34,055 --> 01:26:36,975
Speaker 10: floor one meter above the ground for a floor height,

1509
01:26:37,135 --> 01:26:41,215
Speaker 10: which means steeper sites usually won't qualify. There are other

1510
01:26:41,415 --> 01:26:44,015
Speaker 10: special requirements that you need to meet, so you really

1511
01:26:44,095 --> 01:26:46,375
Speaker 10: do need to do your homework on this. The official

1512
01:26:46,415 --> 01:26:51,655
Speaker 10: guidance is absolutely excellent, lots of detail, very comprehensive, but

1513
01:26:51,735 --> 01:26:53,815
Speaker 10: there's definitely in a lot you need to get your

1514
01:26:53,855 --> 01:26:57,095
Speaker 10: head around. I recommend starting, you know, actually looking at

1515
01:26:57,175 --> 01:27:00,775
Speaker 10: our brand's bulletin Small Plans from Consent. It would be

1516
01:27:00,815 --> 01:27:03,055
Speaker 10: a great place to start because it's a clear summary

1517
01:27:03,215 --> 01:27:06,615
Speaker 10: of all the requirements and we have links there that

1518
01:27:06,655 --> 01:27:10,055
Speaker 10: will provide you to the official guidance, which has really

1519
01:27:10,095 --> 01:27:12,415
Speaker 10: good things like a homeowner step by step guide for

1520
01:27:12,495 --> 01:27:17,495
Speaker 10: planning granny flat checkflists and things like that. You also

1521
01:27:17,575 --> 01:27:21,415
Speaker 10: need to be aware of the resource management requirements because

1522
01:27:21,415 --> 01:27:25,655
Speaker 10: they also apply. For example, the main dwelling granny flat

1523
01:27:25,775 --> 01:27:28,895
Speaker 10: can't cover more than fifty percent of the site. In

1524
01:27:29,095 --> 01:27:34,095
Speaker 10: rural areas, there's larger setbacks like ten meters from the

1525
01:27:34,135 --> 01:27:38,975
Speaker 10: front yard and five meters from the rear and rear

1526
01:27:39,015 --> 01:27:45,255
Speaker 10: inside yards. So depending on your your site specific you

1527
01:27:45,415 --> 01:27:48,095
Speaker 10: may be able to get the building consent exemption and

1528
01:27:48,255 --> 01:27:51,695
Speaker 10: a resource consent exemption, but if it doesn't meet all

1529
01:27:51,735 --> 01:27:54,095
Speaker 10: the grigh you may need to apply for one or both.

1530
01:27:54,815 --> 01:27:57,295
Speaker 6: Right, So it's possible, for example, that you'll need a

1531
01:27:57,415 --> 01:28:01,095
Speaker 6: resource consent for the project, but not necessarily a building consent.

1532
01:28:02,815 --> 01:28:03,695
Speaker 10: That's absolutely right.

1533
01:28:03,815 --> 01:28:06,735
Speaker 6: Okay, Actually a text has come through. Can I build

1534
01:28:07,055 --> 01:28:07,935
Speaker 6: more than one?

1535
01:28:12,095 --> 01:28:12,255
Speaker 7: Oh?

1536
01:28:12,415 --> 01:28:15,015
Speaker 10: That's the great question. Can you build more than one?

1537
01:28:16,015 --> 01:28:18,975
Speaker 10: I definitely know for the other exempt ones you can,

1538
01:28:19,815 --> 01:28:24,095
Speaker 10: but this one, Yeah, that would be determined from the

1539
01:28:25,255 --> 01:28:27,455
Speaker 10: what's it called the district planning and things like that.

1540
01:28:27,535 --> 01:28:31,215
Speaker 10: I would imagine, all right, not in the building consent invention,

1541
01:28:31,415 --> 01:28:33,775
Speaker 10: it would be in the in the Yeah. So it's

1542
01:28:34,295 --> 01:28:35,095
Speaker 10: it's standalone.

1543
01:28:35,175 --> 01:28:38,255
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay. So let's say I've had a look around.

1544
01:28:38,495 --> 01:28:41,815
Speaker 6: My section's got to be relatively flat, doesn't it, because

1545
01:28:42,015 --> 01:28:43,935
Speaker 6: you know, I'm thinking, let's say you've got a reasonable

1546
01:28:43,975 --> 01:28:46,495
Speaker 6: amount of fall or a modest amount of fall. If

1547
01:28:46,535 --> 01:28:48,815
Speaker 6: you let's say, five hundred mili out of the ground

1548
01:28:48,855 --> 01:28:51,055
Speaker 6: on one side, and then you find you're a meter

1549
01:28:51,175 --> 01:28:52,895
Speaker 6: out of the ground on the other, that would trigger

1550
01:28:52,935 --> 01:28:54,815
Speaker 6: a requirement for a building consent.

1551
01:28:56,215 --> 01:28:59,335
Speaker 10: Anything over a meeting, anything over that one meet it.

1552
01:28:59,735 --> 01:29:03,095
Speaker 6: Okay, So then in order to take the next step,

1553
01:29:03,175 --> 01:29:05,575
Speaker 6: I need to have plans drawn, and I presume those

1554
01:29:05,695 --> 01:29:08,775
Speaker 6: plans need to be of a similar level of detail

1555
01:29:09,055 --> 01:29:12,455
Speaker 6: as a set of building consent drawings, because you've got

1556
01:29:12,495 --> 01:29:13,535
Speaker 6: to prove compliance.

1557
01:29:15,975 --> 01:29:16,575
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that.

1558
01:29:16,775 --> 01:29:19,055
Speaker 10: That's well, there's first off, you can do a primary

1559
01:29:19,295 --> 01:29:24,615
Speaker 10: set of plans, but you need a license. You would

1560
01:29:24,655 --> 01:29:29,535
Speaker 10: need a license design qualified designer, so design LPB Architecture engineer,

1561
01:29:29,935 --> 01:29:32,695
Speaker 10: because you need to notify the council before you start

1562
01:29:32,735 --> 01:29:35,495
Speaker 10: the job and at completion. But the first start is

1563
01:29:35,575 --> 01:29:40,175
Speaker 10: just getting a primarily set of drawings together, and these

1564
01:29:40,295 --> 01:29:42,775
Speaker 10: designers are be able to help you with that because

1565
01:29:43,255 --> 01:29:46,415
Speaker 10: when this will confirm whether your site is suitable really

1566
01:29:47,175 --> 01:29:47,415
Speaker 10: and what.

1567
01:29:47,615 --> 01:29:50,135
Speaker 6: Yeah, So that first approach to council might be an

1568
01:29:50,175 --> 01:29:53,895
Speaker 6: existing site plan showing the boundaries, showing the location of

1569
01:29:53,935 --> 01:29:57,735
Speaker 6: the existing dwelling and the proposed location of the new dwelling.

1570
01:29:58,095 --> 01:30:01,295
Speaker 6: You'd take that to council first, they'd go yep, that works.

1571
01:30:01,495 --> 01:30:04,975
Speaker 6: Then you need to then go ahead and get full

1572
01:30:05,055 --> 01:30:07,015
Speaker 6: working drawings done for a building.

1573
01:30:08,375 --> 01:30:12,215
Speaker 10: Because yes, yeah, that's right. You're working in drawings and

1574
01:30:12,295 --> 01:30:13,975
Speaker 10: that that would be need to be handed over at

1575
01:30:14,015 --> 01:30:16,495
Speaker 10: the completion of the job. But the full working drawings

1576
01:30:16,495 --> 01:30:18,215
Speaker 10: will be needed what the builders will need to build

1577
01:30:18,215 --> 01:30:19,215
Speaker 10: the build.

1578
01:30:18,975 --> 01:30:22,095
Speaker 6: The So then in terms of who can build it,

1579
01:30:22,815 --> 01:30:24,175
Speaker 6: it's an LBP, isn't it?

1580
01:30:25,775 --> 01:30:26,335
Speaker 10: Absolutely?

1581
01:30:26,455 --> 01:30:26,615
Speaker 8: Yes?

1582
01:30:26,935 --> 01:30:31,375
Speaker 10: Right licensed building you Yeah, definitely. You've got to surround

1583
01:30:31,375 --> 01:30:33,615
Speaker 10: yourself with the right people. This is not for the

1584
01:30:33,695 --> 01:30:34,295
Speaker 10: faint hearted.

1585
01:30:34,735 --> 01:30:38,455
Speaker 6: Okay, actually sorry, this might be a tricky question and

1586
01:30:38,535 --> 01:30:41,335
Speaker 6: we hadn't discussed it before. You know how, there's if

1587
01:30:41,415 --> 01:30:44,135
Speaker 6: you do a build for yourself, you can get a

1588
01:30:44,295 --> 01:30:47,855
Speaker 6: home builder exemption from having to be an LBP for

1589
01:30:47,975 --> 01:30:51,775
Speaker 6: a build. Can a homeowner apply for the same exemption

1590
01:30:52,135 --> 01:30:53,615
Speaker 6: in order to build a granny flat?

1591
01:30:57,135 --> 01:31:02,135
Speaker 10: I don't know the answer to that one. Yeah, Unfortunately, normally,

1592
01:31:02,415 --> 01:31:06,535
Speaker 10: when I'm at work on a Monday, experts around that

1593
01:31:06,575 --> 01:31:09,215
Speaker 10: would be able to come back to you an answer,

1594
01:31:09,535 --> 01:31:12,415
Speaker 10: But I might imagine be safer to talk to counsel.

1595
01:31:12,615 --> 01:31:12,775
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1596
01:31:12,855 --> 01:31:13,015
Speaker 7: Sure.

1597
01:31:13,175 --> 01:31:15,535
Speaker 6: My feeling is that you probably can't because I think

1598
01:31:15,615 --> 01:31:17,895
Speaker 6: in this instance they if you're not going to have

1599
01:31:17,935 --> 01:31:22,055
Speaker 6: a building consent therefore no building inspections, then you want

1600
01:31:22,095 --> 01:31:23,895
Speaker 6: to have that check and balance that it's going to

1601
01:31:23,935 --> 01:31:26,815
Speaker 6: be an LVP. What about the other trades people that

1602
01:31:26,895 --> 01:31:29,895
Speaker 6: are involved. They all need to be licensed in their

1603
01:31:29,935 --> 01:31:31,215
Speaker 6: own fields too, don't they.

1604
01:31:32,615 --> 01:31:37,215
Speaker 10: Yes, everybody. It's basically the only difference is that, yeah,

1605
01:31:37,215 --> 01:31:39,775
Speaker 10: you're not going through that consent process. So everything needs

1606
01:31:39,815 --> 01:31:42,415
Speaker 10: to be built to the building code. All the qualified

1607
01:31:42,415 --> 01:31:44,135
Speaker 10: people have to have the correct licenses.

1608
01:31:44,335 --> 01:31:44,535
Speaker 4: Yep.

1609
01:31:45,175 --> 01:31:49,215
Speaker 6: What about the practical stuff like waste water, storm water

1610
01:31:49,455 --> 01:31:53,015
Speaker 6: and so on? How do I know that that's done correctly?

1611
01:31:55,175 --> 01:31:57,895
Speaker 10: And yeah, that will be reliant on the right people.

1612
01:31:57,935 --> 01:31:59,855
Speaker 10: But yeah, it must be a licensed plumber or a

1613
01:31:59,895 --> 01:32:02,775
Speaker 10: droin layer. You cannot do this work yourself, okay.

1614
01:32:02,975 --> 01:32:07,975
Speaker 6: And that detail needs to be included in the plan

1615
01:32:08,135 --> 01:32:11,255
Speaker 6: that's put forward to council. The way in which you

1616
01:32:11,335 --> 01:32:14,975
Speaker 6: put it to council. It's a project information memorandum.

1617
01:32:15,815 --> 01:32:19,175
Speaker 10: That's right. Yes, I should have mentioned that before, right,

1618
01:32:19,815 --> 01:32:21,775
Speaker 10: we call it short for a PIM. Yes, yeah, but

1619
01:32:21,855 --> 01:32:25,815
Speaker 10: that's exactly right, and that that that will be so

1620
01:32:25,975 --> 01:32:28,815
Speaker 10: that information will come back from the council about that.

1621
01:32:29,095 --> 01:32:33,215
Speaker 10: And although the Council play a very limited role in this,

1622
01:32:34,455 --> 01:32:37,535
Speaker 10: one thing would be the approval for that connection, because

1623
01:32:37,535 --> 01:32:42,415
Speaker 10: if there isn't if you don't have the If you

1624
01:32:42,495 --> 01:32:49,375
Speaker 10: don't have the the the council council supply or wastewater

1625
01:32:49,415 --> 01:32:52,135
Speaker 10: system available, you can do one on site and this

1626
01:32:52,255 --> 01:32:55,295
Speaker 10: will be exempt. But you yeah, as I said, this

1627
01:32:55,455 --> 01:32:57,215
Speaker 10: is one of the ones that would need to be

1628
01:32:57,975 --> 01:33:00,015
Speaker 10: kind of approved of council or what's happening there if

1629
01:33:00,055 --> 01:33:00,655
Speaker 10: it's sufficient.

1630
01:33:01,295 --> 01:33:04,055
Speaker 6: I guess the way to look at the council role

1631
01:33:04,175 --> 01:33:07,295
Speaker 6: in this, like typically when we're thinking building with thinking

1632
01:33:07,415 --> 01:33:12,255
Speaker 6: building consents, building inspectors, council being sort of well, they

1633
01:33:12,335 --> 01:33:14,335
Speaker 6: are the inspector, right, they're going to tell you whether

1634
01:33:14,375 --> 01:33:18,375
Speaker 6: it's code compliant, et cetera, et cetera. Without if we're

1635
01:33:18,415 --> 01:33:21,815
Speaker 6: building without it, it's it's seeing council as a record

1636
01:33:21,975 --> 01:33:26,135
Speaker 6: keeper rather than a regulator, right.

1637
01:33:26,975 --> 01:33:29,935
Speaker 10: That's that's absolutely right. Yes, So they're definitely more there

1638
01:33:30,015 --> 01:33:32,615
Speaker 10: keeping the records so that you know when it comes

1639
01:33:32,735 --> 01:33:35,495
Speaker 10: time for insurances and if you want to sell, we

1640
01:33:35,655 --> 01:33:38,295
Speaker 10: have a decent record. And that's a really good thing.

1641
01:33:38,415 --> 01:33:40,535
Speaker 10: I think that should be done on all exempt work,

1642
01:33:40,575 --> 01:33:45,495
Speaker 10: to be honest, as keeping that information with counsel. Yeah,

1643
01:33:45,615 --> 01:33:48,935
Speaker 10: just bearing in mind that you know, the having building

1644
01:33:49,015 --> 01:33:51,255
Speaker 10: under an exemption does come with a lot more risk

1645
01:33:51,295 --> 01:33:53,415
Speaker 10: there's a trade off between the costs and the speed,

1646
01:33:53,575 --> 01:33:56,095
Speaker 10: but there is a risk and it won't be right

1647
01:33:56,175 --> 01:33:59,855
Speaker 10: for every every person, so you can still you may

1648
01:33:59,975 --> 01:34:03,735
Speaker 10: prefer to go down to consent pathway. Still that's still

1649
01:34:03,815 --> 01:34:08,495
Speaker 10: always an option. But my advice would be taking lots

1650
01:34:08,535 --> 01:34:11,615
Speaker 10: and lots of photos throughout the build, similar to something

1651
01:34:11,695 --> 01:34:13,695
Speaker 10: like we would have, you know, a brand's app for

1652
01:34:13,855 --> 01:34:17,535
Speaker 10: consented works, which just take photos against a checklist. Doing

1653
01:34:17,575 --> 01:34:20,175
Speaker 10: that same kind of thing to keep really good records

1654
01:34:20,255 --> 01:34:23,975
Speaker 10: at key stages would be one of my biggest recommendations.

1655
01:34:23,655 --> 01:34:25,655
Speaker 6: Because when the build is done, so you've had the

1656
01:34:25,815 --> 01:34:29,215
Speaker 6: LBP do the construction work, You've had an LBP do

1657
01:34:29,375 --> 01:34:33,615
Speaker 6: the roofing, You've you've done the you know, the electrical

1658
01:34:33,655 --> 01:34:36,335
Speaker 6: works being signed off by the electrician, you've got a

1659
01:34:37,095 --> 01:34:41,695
Speaker 6: co C for that. You've you've had the drain layer

1660
01:34:41,815 --> 01:34:43,855
Speaker 6: do the work and they're well, they're going to be

1661
01:34:43,895 --> 01:34:46,975
Speaker 6: able to self certify soon. So you compile all of that.

1662
01:34:47,215 --> 01:34:49,375
Speaker 6: Do you have to then go back to counsel and go,

1663
01:34:49,615 --> 01:34:53,335
Speaker 6: my project's finished, here's the information. What's the way of

1664
01:34:53,455 --> 01:34:54,215
Speaker 6: wrapping this up?

1665
01:34:54,375 --> 01:34:59,455
Speaker 10: Yeah? So, yeah, that's exactly right. So on completion of

1666
01:35:00,015 --> 01:35:03,215
Speaker 10: your build, you would submit all the HOMO would need

1667
01:35:03,255 --> 01:35:05,655
Speaker 10: to collect all this information, and then you would submit

1668
01:35:05,735 --> 01:35:09,575
Speaker 10: all the request documentation to counsel within twenty working days

1669
01:35:09,615 --> 01:35:15,615
Speaker 10: of completion. So yeah, all record work specific works. Yes, yes,

1670
01:35:15,735 --> 01:35:18,175
Speaker 10: so it's quite quick, but we don't want it to

1671
01:35:19,455 --> 01:35:22,415
Speaker 10: delay and not get there. We need that information in there.

1672
01:35:22,975 --> 01:35:25,135
Speaker 10: That's you know, it's all about keeping those records.

1673
01:35:25,935 --> 01:35:27,375
Speaker 6: We need to take a break into this moment. This

1674
01:35:27,535 --> 01:35:29,895
Speaker 6: is a great text question. Someone's just said, look what

1675
01:35:30,055 --> 01:35:34,455
Speaker 6: about fully completed modular off site units that are delivered

1676
01:35:34,535 --> 01:35:38,455
Speaker 6: and installed. I guess the advantage to those is the

1677
01:35:39,175 --> 01:35:43,775
Speaker 6: manufacturer keeps all of those records during their construction and

1678
01:35:44,535 --> 01:35:48,055
Speaker 6: essentially hands the homeowner a pack saying this is how

1679
01:35:48,095 --> 01:35:50,695
Speaker 6: we built it, this is how it complies with the code.

1680
01:35:51,295 --> 01:35:54,455
Speaker 6: And so you don't have to build on site.

1681
01:35:56,015 --> 01:35:58,655
Speaker 10: No, no, absolutely not, no, you do not in You're right,

1682
01:35:58,735 --> 01:36:01,855
Speaker 10: that would be in some situations and easier. Yeah, you've

1683
01:36:01,935 --> 01:36:03,855
Speaker 10: got all that stuff there, it's easy to pass on.

1684
01:36:04,815 --> 01:36:07,015
Speaker 10: But yeah, that would be a good.

1685
01:36:06,855 --> 01:36:08,095
Speaker 4: Solution to Yeah.

1686
01:36:08,095 --> 01:36:14,895
Speaker 6: Absolutely. Actually, another tricky question that's come through, what about

1687
01:36:16,415 --> 01:36:18,815
Speaker 6: as if you're wanting to build one on a cross

1688
01:36:18,935 --> 01:36:19,975
Speaker 6: lease section.

1689
01:36:23,575 --> 01:36:25,855
Speaker 10: All that's that year and you've stumped me on that one.

1690
01:36:25,935 --> 01:36:29,655
Speaker 10: There is definitely requirements and there on a cross lease,

1691
01:36:29,735 --> 01:36:31,775
Speaker 10: so that would definitely come down to the resource management

1692
01:36:31,815 --> 01:36:34,095
Speaker 10: and things like that. So yeah, as I said, you know,

1693
01:36:34,175 --> 01:36:36,215
Speaker 10: you've got to do your homework. The guidance is there,

1694
01:36:36,295 --> 01:36:37,815
Speaker 10: but off the top of my head, I just don't

1695
01:36:37,855 --> 01:36:38,375
Speaker 10: have it. Sorry.

1696
01:36:38,615 --> 01:36:40,975
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, No, we're gonna take a short break. We'll

1697
01:36:40,975 --> 01:36:43,535
Speaker 6: come back with Phil. We'll just try and try and

1698
01:36:43,695 --> 01:36:46,895
Speaker 6: encapsulate all of this as well. But the guidance is

1699
01:36:46,975 --> 01:36:48,735
Speaker 6: really good to have a look at, and Fell mentioned

1700
01:36:49,295 --> 01:36:51,775
Speaker 6: you can find it online. It's BU seven o four

1701
01:36:52,055 --> 01:36:55,615
Speaker 6: Small Buildings exempt from consents issued by brands. Fill from

1702
01:36:55,655 --> 01:36:57,655
Speaker 6: brands is with us. We'll take short break, be back

1703
01:36:57,695 --> 01:36:58,375
Speaker 6: in just a moment.

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Speaker 2: Measure twice call once on eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: the future of Kiwi Building.

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Speaker 2: Today News talks b.

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Speaker 6: right yo. Phil from Brands is with us. We'll try

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Speaker 6: and it's it's difficult to summarize this, you know, tie

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Speaker 6: neat bow around it because I think the way in which,

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Speaker 6: in part for the way it's been presented has been

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01:38:29,735 --> 01:38:34,815
Speaker 6: you can build these standalone dwellings, small standalone dwellings, as

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Speaker 6: if there was no rules. But the reality is there's

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Speaker 6: still a whole bunch of regulation that goes along with it.

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Speaker 6: That's what I've found.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, so I'm yeah, it still needs

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Speaker 10: to meet the building code. Even though it's exempt, it

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Speaker 10: needs to meet the building code. And this is a

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Speaker 10: different exemption than the other exemption. There is a lot

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Speaker 10: more requirements and things in this that you know that

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Speaker 10: records will work and things like that. That is a

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Speaker 10: new one that needs to be done. So main things

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Speaker 10: for me is you know, keeping those records that make

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Speaker 10: sure you're using the right people. Yes, The big key

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Speaker 10: ones for me is yeah, and you may could use

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Speaker 10: someone for an intermit party to check on the quality

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Speaker 10: and things like that, but yeah, keeping those records at

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Speaker 10: key stages.

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Speaker 6: And then who keeps those records? So, for example, if

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Speaker 6: I get a record works from the LBP for the

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Speaker 6: framing and another one for the roofing, and maybe I

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Speaker 6: do some waterproofing and I get someone to give me

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Speaker 6: a PS three for that, and then I get my

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01:39:36,535 --> 01:39:40,815
Speaker 6: electrical safety certificate and I get my drainage certificate and

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Speaker 6: those sorts of things. Is it expected that everyone hands

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Speaker 6: that to council or does the homeowner hold onto them.

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Speaker 10: The homeowner will collect it and he will they wait, sorry,

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01:39:52,975 --> 01:39:55,055
Speaker 10: they will pass it on to the homeowner will be

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Speaker 10: supplied one. But then also the council, so both both

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01:39:57,975 --> 01:40:00,775
Speaker 10: parties will need to have one of those forms, a

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Speaker 10: prescribed form. So look on the council. It's the information

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Speaker 10: that they have about this is fantastic as well, and

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Speaker 10: it really talks you through each process which ones you

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Speaker 10: need to pass. And as I said, that official guidance

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Speaker 10: about the step by step shows you when to collect

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Speaker 10: it and things like that, because at different stages they

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Speaker 10: are going to come in. So yeah, you just read

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Speaker 10: to make sure that that does get passed on to

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Speaker 10: the council who will be the ficial record keeper. But

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Speaker 10: you also want to keep those records yourself.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, do you get a sense of

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Speaker 6: how many applications you think might come through? Like, are

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Speaker 6: you getting a sense that this is going to be

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Speaker 6: like the estimate is that about thirteen thousand of these

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Speaker 6: might be built over the next ten years.

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Speaker 10: Just as a rough guy, yeah, yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 10: how Yeah to me, honestly, I'm also in the same

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Speaker 10: boat that I just do not have enough land to

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Speaker 10: be able to do it. It would be. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 10: just so that would be the big restricting space and

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Speaker 10: also the the cost saving to risk. How many people

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Speaker 10: are willing to take on the extra risk and you

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Speaker 10: may just pervert go it under consenting path, which is

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Speaker 10: always that option.

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Speaker 6: I think that's something that people really need to weigh up,

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Speaker 6: isn't it that? Yes, I might save on consent fees,

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Speaker 6: and I might save on time because I'm not having

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Speaker 6: to wait for that to be processed by the BCA,

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Speaker 6: But then I'm taking on risk and am I prepared

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Speaker 6: to do that? Here's another quick and I think we've

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Speaker 6: covered this off just the last text that's coming, because

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Speaker 6: a number of people have said, oh good, can I

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Speaker 6: use this legislation to convert my garage into a granny flat?

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Speaker 6: It's quite clear this is for new builds only, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, this is definitely only only new builds. And yeah,

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Speaker 10: you would need that separation of two meters away from

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Speaker 10: the main dwellings, so yeah, and other other buildings, so yes,

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Speaker 10: So that would no addition or alteration. Must be new, right, it's.

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Speaker 6: Got to be brand new. But but it doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 6: need to be built on site. It can be off site.

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Speaker 6: And delivered to site. That's fine, and in fact, I

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Speaker 6: actually think that that's quite a good way to get

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Speaker 6: your compliance because people are making these in factories tend

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Speaker 6: to have better record keeping and they've got systems in place.

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Speaker 6: You know, if you're doing the same thing over and

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Speaker 6: over again, you've got your systems in place. And I

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Speaker 6: think there's a huge advantage to the off site manufacture

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Speaker 6: part of it.

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Speaker 10: I would agree to. Yes, that would be that there

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Speaker 10: is a very good pathway with that. I'm saying that

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Speaker 10: there's plenty of good builders there and tradesmen and draftsmen's

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Speaker 10: out there that can do this. Not a problem. But

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Speaker 10: there's also if you're in doubt, just get advice.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be best.

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Speaker 10: If in doubt, get advice.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, Hey, really appreciate your time this morning. Fill and again.

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Speaker 6: This bulletin is b U seven four and it's available.

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Speaker 6: I found it within a couple of seconds online. You

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Speaker 6: can download the PDF once you're in that portal. Of course,

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Speaker 6: there's all the other bulletins with all the other helpful

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Speaker 6: advice as well. And quite a remarkable moment, the last

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Speaker 6: brand's printed magazine has just gone out, So from here

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Speaker 6: on in the Brands Magazine is going to be online only,

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Speaker 6: isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 10: So we're just in the process of getting a new

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Speaker 10: website coming up with. Yeah, so this is going to

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01:43:29,895 --> 01:43:32,055
Speaker 10: be a fantastic thing for us and have all these

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Speaker 10: historic build on there and things like that.

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Speaker 4: Myself, I've used.

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Speaker 10: The build Right publications all throughout my career.

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Speaker 6: Ditto, ditto. Hey, you really appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 6: Felt much appreciated. Have a great day. Take care your

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Speaker 6: new stalks. He'd be so Phil mcnaara from Brands And

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Speaker 6: actually quite an interesting thing. If you like me, you

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Speaker 6: build a a I've got into the habit of every

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Speaker 6: couple of months or whenever it does, the Brands magazine

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Speaker 6: comes out, the Built Magazine. It is with many things.

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Speaker 6: It's digital only from here on and so, but all

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Speaker 6: of the guidance, all of the information. You know, if

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Speaker 6: you're looking for an independent source of really top quality

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Speaker 6: information about building and building compliance, go and check out

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Speaker 6: the basically the brand's library online radio so BU as

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Speaker 6: inn B for Barney b U seven oh four is

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Speaker 6: where you get all of that information. It's hot off

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Speaker 6: the presses. Can we say that in a digital world

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Speaker 6: we can't really anymore. It's there and it's live and

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Speaker 6: you can find that information. Right, let's change gear, let's

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Speaker 6: get into the Garden Root climb past is with us

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Speaker 6: if you've got a question for it. Eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 1: Begting what they forgot to mention on that YouTube video.

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Speaker 1: The Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp and Independent Building supplies

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