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Speaker 2: You welcome today the Trade Minister on the Trump tariff

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Speaker 2: back down, Sir John Kerwin on the all black ants,

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Speaker 2: The week Monday morning, seven past six. Big win of

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Speaker 2: course for New Zealand Inc. And a lesson for everyone

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Speaker 2: who doesn't understand tariff's. Donald Trump has cut the tariffs

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Speaker 2: on beef. The beneficiaries are largely US, Australia and Brazil.

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Speaker 2: Brazil had a fifty percent tariff, so they will be thrilled.

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Speaker 2: We at fifteen and ten for Australia may not benefit

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Speaker 2: as much, but given we're balling anyway, as they say,

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Speaker 2: anything that gives us a chance to sell more has

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Speaker 2: got to be welcome. Latest figures show that we've had

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Speaker 2: a fall off in volumes of beef to the States.

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Speaker 2: What's helping us is the value. Volume is one thing.

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Speaker 2: Value is another. If the value offsets the volume you're

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Speaker 2: still winning. Of course, if the world only understood the

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Speaker 2: true value of a terrif free environment, we'd all be

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Speaker 2: better off. But that debates memes for now to be

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Speaker 2: losing grand globally as more and more economies retrench. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: the reason Trump moved is because he's in trouble. He's

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Speaker 2: in trouble on a lot of things, and unless the

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Speaker 2: tired terms this time next year in the midterms, it's

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Speaker 2: all going to come home to roost and the Republicans

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Speaker 2: will lose their rescendency. And if that happens, they'll turn

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Speaker 2: on the president and the latter part of the President's

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Speaker 2: term will be what they call lame duck. In some respects,

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Speaker 2: it's been a surprise that his line of abstract economics

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Speaker 2: has lasted so long. I mean, there's nothing particularly complex

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Speaker 2: about tariff's And to be fair to him, if China

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Speaker 2: say charges you're thirty percent on something, the reciprocal tariff

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Speaker 2: is not out of order. But the slap them all

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Speaker 2: approach he used on a place like New Zealand and Australia,

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Speaker 2: not to mention Switzerland that only just got sorted over

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Speaker 2: the weekend, was bizarre, if not completely nuts. All that

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Speaker 2: crap about importers and countries paying tariffs was never real.

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Speaker 2: And as Americans lined up at the butchers to pay

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Speaker 2: more for New Zealand beef, they got angry, and they

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Speaker 2: got angry to the point Trump had to acquiesce. So

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Speaker 2: the tariffs fall in places like New Zealand and cash

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Speaker 1: Wow, News of the World in ninety six right.

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Speaker 2: To Britain weather Stamerku talk rolls into a new Week.

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Speaker 3: Migrant That matters more to me than almost anything else

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Speaker 8: how we fight for America, not just fate Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: of America Charlotte's the latest repository of the Trump attention.

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Speaker 2: Greg Smith, good morning, good morning to some life and manufacturing.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely got some positive news. So this is the ben

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Speaker 2: Now, while we're on the subject of trade, interesting developments.

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Speaker 2: All right, Nice to talk to you, Angus. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: Number two is healthcare, which is a reflection of the

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Speaker 2: media coverage. Of course, it's not necessarily lived experience, It's

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Speaker 2: just it's in the headlines a lot, so we go

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Speaker 2: healthcare is no good. So number one and number two.

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Speaker 2: Then number three is the economy. Well hold on, what

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Speaker 2: is inflation and cost of living? If it isn't the economy,

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Speaker 2: how are you separating? See see how mad this whole

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Speaker 2: thing is? Six forty five.

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Speaker 10: International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 10: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Say side, Richard morning A. Marjorie and Donald don't like

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Speaker 2: each other anymore.

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Speaker 13: It is getting hot the battle in megaworld. Marjorie Taylor Green,

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Speaker 13: the House member who has been as close as anyone

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Speaker 13: to Trump, has just given her first interview. As you've

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Speaker 13: been hearing on the verbal war raging between these two.

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Speaker 13: Just like Trump, she is bubbling down. Trump has withdrawn

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Speaker 13: his political support for Green, calling her a quote ranting

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Speaker 13: lunatic and a disgrace and a traitor.

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Speaker 11: She replies, called me a trader, and that is so

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Speaker 11: extremely wrong. And those are the types of words use

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Speaker 11: that can radicalize people against me and put my life

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Speaker 11: in danger.

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Speaker 13: She says she is now fearing for her life. Trump

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Speaker 13: calls her wacky Marjorie and says all she does is complain, complain, complain.

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Speaker 1: Low Marjorie, She's a warrior.

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Speaker 14: Oh there she is.

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Speaker 2: Oh look at her.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, she's changed politically is the way that Trump is

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Speaker 13: putting it. Trump says he will endorse the challenger to

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Speaker 13: her in her House seat and accuses her of seeking

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Speaker 13: more power, perhaps with a Senate run in mind. She

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Speaker 13: denies that. She says Trump no longer returns her phone

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Speaker 13: calls and says she sees just one reason for this

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Speaker 13: political bust.

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Speaker 11: It has all come down to the Epsteam files. And

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Speaker 11: that is shocking. And you know, I stand with these women.

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Speaker 11: I stand with rape victims. I stand with children who

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Speaker 11: are in terrible sex abuse situations.

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Speaker 13: So why does she think Trump is fighting the release

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Speaker 13: of these Epstein files so aggressively?

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Speaker 11: That is the questions everyone is asking, is why fight

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Speaker 11: this so hard?

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Speaker 13: Last week they hauled another Republican, of course, Lauren Bobert,

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Speaker 13: into the White House situation room of all places, to

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Speaker 13: try to get her to back off the Epstein files.

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Speaker 13: Marjorie Taylor Green says, I believe.

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Speaker 11: The country deserves transparency in these files, and I don't

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Speaker 11: believe that rich, powerful people should be protected.

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Speaker 13: So business the first time during this Trump term that

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Speaker 13: Republicans have so openly challenged Donald Trump. Some are suggesting

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Speaker 13: it's the beginning of a campaign of who might take

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Speaker 13: over the Mega movement when Trump is done. Trump says

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Speaker 13: that Mega was his idea, nobody else's. Meantime, his deputy,

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Speaker 13: the VPJD Events, appears to be sitting on the fence

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Speaker 13: so far as this Mega conflict rageous mostly behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: And we've got the Saudi Crown Prince in town this week.

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Speaker 15: This is ugly.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, he's going to visit the White House this Wednesday,

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Speaker 13: your time. First visit by Crown Prince Muhammed MN Sulman

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Speaker 13: in more than seven years. Last visit came just before

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Speaker 13: the murder of that Washington Post journalist Jamal Kashoki. The

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Speaker 13: CIA at the time said it was likely that the

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Speaker 13: Crown Prince had ordered the assassination of the reporter. You

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Speaker 13: recall that Kashoki was visiting the Saudi consulate in Turkey

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Speaker 13: when he was killed, with his body then hacked to pieces.

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Speaker 13: Now in Washington, they're pulling out all the stops to

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Speaker 13: welcome Bin Sulomon. This will have all the trappings of

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Speaker 13: a state visit. Though the Prince is not officially the

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Speaker 13: leader of Saudi Arabia, that position still held by his

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Speaker 13: eighty nine year old father, King Solomon, but the Crown

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Speaker 13: Prince is the head of state in all practical aspects.

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Speaker 13: Joe Biden once called Bin Sulman a pariah quote unquote,

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Speaker 13: and yet he fisped up the Crown Prince in a

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Speaker 13: visit to Riad. Back in May, Trump went to Saudi

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Speaker 13: Arabia for the first visit of his second term. That's

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Speaker 13: when he was greeted by the fighter jets and the

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Speaker 13: Arabian horses dancing and tapping around found in a mobile

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Speaker 13: McDonald's Hamburger van. At the time, the Saudi's promised to

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Speaker 13: invest some six hundred billion dollars US in this country.

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Speaker 13: As we so often see, many of those claimed agreements

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Speaker 13: are yet to be fully implemented.

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Speaker 2: See wenesday mate. Richard Donald stateside California seventeen thousand commercial drivers'

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Speaker 2: licenses and in order they found the legal immigrants have

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Speaker 2: got them. So that's part of the Department of Transport crackdown.

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Speaker 2: And the ticket went Georgia nine hundred and eighty million

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Speaker 2: Mega millions, eighth largest prize in the game's history. One

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Speaker 2: eight eleven twelve fifty seven megaball was seven, isn't it always? Forty?

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Speaker 2: Drawing streak came to a close forty draws with no winners,

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Speaker 2: So you can choose nine to eighty. So that's your prize.

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Speaker 2: You can do it in annual payments over thirty years,

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Speaker 2: or you go lump some if you want it. Four

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty two point two million. That's before taxes.

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Speaker 2: It's always before taxes, isn't it? Ten to seven?

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Speaker 1: The make hosking Breakfast with the Defender and news togs.

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Speaker 2: Dead b The phos the funding provider, essentially for general practice.

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Speaker 2: They dish out money according to their own ideas of

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Speaker 2: how it should be used, often setting targets big bureaucracy,

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Speaker 2: which eats up the funding before it even gets to

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Speaker 2: the practice, an esoteric idea. Sometimes my practice will definitely

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Speaker 2: be hoping gen pro provides more general practice focused. Option

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Speaker 2: from a practice aren't good. But that was my question,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it. If you're stuck with a PHO and you're going,

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Speaker 2: this is a bit esoteric. This is a bit weird.

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Speaker 2: Why still in there? Get out and go somewhere else. Mike,

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Speaker 2: please do some scrutiny on these poles, the results, and

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Speaker 2: who they actually pole. I mean, we've talked about this

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Speaker 2: ad nauseum. The difficulty with poles these days. The main

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Speaker 2: problem with poles these days is getting people to participate.

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Speaker 2: We're far too busy, we don't have time, we're not interested.

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Speaker 2: So what a lot of these polsters do is rely

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Speaker 2: on an opt in model, or at least a partial

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Speaker 2: opt in model. In other words, they go to the

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Speaker 2: board and the bewildered and they go listen. If you've

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Speaker 2: got half an hour of your time sitting at a computer,

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Speaker 2: can you give us a few views and ideas around

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Speaker 2: what you're thinking at this current point in time. It

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Speaker 2: was at that point I gave up largely on pole.

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Speaker 2: It's now a good example of this this morning, as

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Speaker 2: I've alluded to already, is the Herald's got a pole

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Speaker 2: on the CGT Capital Gains Tax. They've come in at

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Speaker 2: thirty nine all now, is that real? Because last week's

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Speaker 2: pole had favor a favorable number for a CGT of

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Speaker 2: fifty six percent, So fifty six to thirty nine is

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Speaker 2: a massive it's a marked difference. It therefore negates each pole.

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Speaker 2: Each pole becomes irrelevant. And the problem with poles is

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Speaker 2: they cost a lot of money to conduct, and then

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Speaker 2: you come up with a zipsos weird business. Of of course,

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Speaker 2: inflation in the cost of living is the number one issue.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't it be, But then suddenly the economy is

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Speaker 2: number three. I mean they're the same thing. For goodness say,

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Speaker 2: yet they separate? So all we end up being as

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Speaker 2: confused Morning Mike. When does the media start asking questions

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Speaker 2: about Scott Robinson? I don't know who Scott Robinson is?

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Speaker 2: Why would I ask questions about You're? Oh, sorry, you

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Speaker 2: mean Robertson? Okay, Well to ask some questions, you might

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Speaker 2: want to get his name right for a start. First,

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Speaker 2: of a defeat to Argentina, I mean everyone got defeated

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Speaker 2: by Argentina's that's not a thing. Biggest ever defeats to

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Speaker 2: South Africa, I'm not sure that's the thing either. Now

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Speaker 2: losing to the worst rugby team in the world, are

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Speaker 2: you serious? England, the worst rugby team in the world,

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Speaker 2: come to the party with some credentials, mate. Five minutes

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 1: While the ins and the outs, it's the bearz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Insight into the wealthy. This is what the top zero

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Speaker 2: point zero one percent of the wealthy in the world

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Speaker 2: of buying this from JP Morgan. They've done on God,

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Speaker 2: they've done a survey, okay, but they got one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eleven billionaire principles of private family investment firms. These

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Speaker 2: billionaires represent about nine hundred billion dollars in wealth. Sports

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Speaker 2: teams are where the actions app investment has increase eightfold

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Speaker 2: over the last five years. Everyone wants a sports team.

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Speaker 2: Twenty percent of the billionaires reported only in controlling states

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Speaker 2: in a sports team, which is up from only six

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Speaker 2: percent three years ago. So from six to twenty thirty

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Speaker 2: four percent invested in teams and arenas, twenty three percent

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Speaker 2: invested in ten percent invested in luxury cars and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that. They probably invested in everything to be frank,

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you've got that much money, you've got

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Speaker 2: a team, and then you've got some art, and then

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Speaker 2: you've probably got a nice car as well. Haven't you

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Speaker 2: just say? When they ring out? When JP Morgan ring

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Speaker 2: out and I've got a bit of everything, mate. Yachts

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Speaker 2: got a yacht prior to twenty two art and cars

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Speaker 2: with the top two trophy assets. It's getting to the

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Speaker 2: point now these smaller sports are gaining attention from the heavyweights.

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Speaker 2: Blackstones David Blitzer, he's the first person to have equity

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Speaker 2: in all five major men's US sports leagues, and he's

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Speaker 2: backed six other sports teams just this year, including a

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Speaker 2: gaming team. And he's into the paddle. A lot of

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Speaker 2: them into the paddle, I know. By the way, speaking

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Speaker 2: of sports stars and rich people, are under Armored. Parted

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Speaker 2: ways with Steph Curry. So Steph's a free agent, so

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Speaker 2: he can go anywhere. I don't know where he's going,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know why they parted company. They didn't

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Speaker 2: explain why they parted company. Maybe he's not what he was,

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're not getting the vibe off them anymore. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: he's a free agent, go and do what he wants

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Speaker 2: to do now, as far as we're concerned on beef,

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Speaker 2: What a great weekend as Trump finally woke up to

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Speaker 2: the cold hard realities of Americans buying burger meat and

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Speaker 2: they don't like paying more so the tariffs are gone.

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Speaker 2: Were the beneficiaries? Our Trade Minister Tom McLay with us

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Speaker 2: from India in the next half hour of the program,

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Speaker 2: and of course being a Monday, we'll check them with

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister when he joins us in the studio

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Speaker 2: and the commentary box with Andrew and Jason.

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Speaker 12: Up to eight.

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Speaker 2: Here are news talks edby credible compelling.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show you can't best. It's the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News

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Speaker 1: togs Head.

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Speaker 2: Be seven past seven. Looks like the US President capitulated

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Speaker 2: over the weekend executive order God signed reducing the tariff's

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Speaker 2: on red meat, tomatoes, kiwi fruit among other food items.

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Speaker 2: We are, of course a big winner. Todd mcclay's the

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Speaker 2: trade minister in India. He's with us. Good Morning, Make

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Speaker 2: the Money. So what we got over the weekend from

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Speaker 2: the White House? Do we have detail what it actually

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Speaker 2: means or was it just an announcement?

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Speaker 16: Well, look, it's just an announcement. But my official has

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Speaker 16: been able to dig into it a little bit. It

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Speaker 16: does seem that the tariff rate of fifteen percent has

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Speaker 16: been rolled back on a number of productions and sells

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Speaker 16: up there the most important ones or beef, beef offul

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Speaker 16: and a few other things in the beef sector, and then.

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Speaker 17: Also kiwi fruit.

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Speaker 16: That's a saving about three hundred and thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 16: We estimate that fifteen percent tariff. But I've sort of

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Speaker 16: said I'm welcome it cautiously. The changing nature of decisions

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Speaker 16: out of the Whitehouse still makes it very uncertain for

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Speaker 16: New Zealand exquorters, and there are many other exporters that

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Speaker 16: are still facing the fifteen percent tariff, which is challenging

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Speaker 16: for them.

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Speaker 2: So save for beef, it goes back to what do

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Speaker 2: we know.

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Speaker 16: So it goes back to before the fifteen percent was

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Speaker 16: put on. So for us it will be the equivalent

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Speaker 16: of the most Favored Nation status, which is very low.

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Speaker 16: It's less than one percent, So it really means a

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Speaker 16: very level playing field with every other beef and porter

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Speaker 16: in the world the same tariff rate that Australia faces.

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Speaker 16: The only difference there is from memory, Brazil faced about

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Speaker 16: a forty percent tariff, so you know we are more.

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Speaker 17: Competitive than them.

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Speaker 2: When does it start, My.

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Speaker 17: Understanding is it started already.

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Speaker 16: Nobody gets money back, but from the moment that the

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Speaker 16: announcement was made just a day or two ago.

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Speaker 17: Look, that is very welcome news, Mike.

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Speaker 16: I think the reason it's happened is that the US

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Speaker 16: doesn't produce enough beef they have to import it.

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Speaker 17: We've seen beef prices go up in the US.

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Speaker 16: I guess Hamburger is going to be more expensive, and

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Speaker 16: that in queue through another other fruit, the administration the

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Speaker 16: presidents decided to lower the tariff fright in itself, that's

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Speaker 16: the first time we've seen that. There's been nothing else

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Speaker 16: really that has gone back to zero. But what does

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Speaker 16: concern me a bit is that changing nature the decision

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Speaker 16: we're made to take it off today.

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Speaker 17: In the future they could back and put it back on.

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Speaker 16: In the meantime, beef farmers in New Zealand and the

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Speaker 16: exports will be extremely pleased. I think what we'll see

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Speaker 16: is our beef exports or a turn quite quick to

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Speaker 16: the levels they were before, to fifteen percent. We could

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Speaker 16: even see a bit more beef sold in that market.

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Speaker 2: Elbanezi claims it's all him, his lobbying. Do you believe that.

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Speaker 16: Well, it's not for me to question the views of

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Speaker 16: another Prime minister. Of that's the whole of New Zealand

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Speaker 16: beef ex borners who produce better beef than Australia.

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Speaker 17: Thank them all right.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you. Tom McLeay out of India

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Speaker 2: this morning. And here's the insig I'm reading over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: So rancher's difficulties increasing the herd they've got, drought, diminished

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Speaker 2: amount of grasslands, higher costs and buying feed important fertilizers

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Speaker 2: of double digit tariffs. Of course, tariffs on steel and

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Speaker 2: aluminium increase the cost of farm equipment. Generally, we're in

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Speaker 2: one of the toughest cattle cycles in history. That's a

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Speaker 2: farmer out of Texas. Replacement heifers are down to a

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Speaker 2: twenty year low. And meantime, downtown in America, you're average

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Speaker 2: American for burger meat is paying somewhere between twelve and

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Speaker 2: eighteen percent more. So they're sick of it and they've

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Speaker 2: had enough. And so Trump acquies ten past seven Posky right.

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Speaker 2: Change coming for those who breach the Fair Treeating Act.

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Speaker 2: Fines will increase from six hundred thousand dollars to five million.

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Speaker 2: Cases are going to move from criminal to simil The

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Speaker 2: reason for that is it's easier prosecution or so they claimed.

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Speaker 2: John Duffy is Consuming New Zealand's chief executive and with

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Speaker 2: us John Morning, Morning, Mike. Good move, great move, fantastic move.

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Speaker 2: What sort of move is it?

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Speaker 18: It's pretty good. It's probably one of the most consequential

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Speaker 18: reforms of the Fair Trading Act in a generation. But

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Speaker 18: as with everything, it wasn't quite everything that consumer advocates

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Speaker 18: were looking for. But the change to the penalty regime

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Speaker 18: very good, very pleased.

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Speaker 2: Will it be a deterrent?

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Speaker 18: I think so for more companies. There will always be

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Speaker 18: those companies, you know, big multinationals with deep pockets. Five

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Speaker 18: million dollars is still a drop in the bucket for

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Speaker 18: those types of companies. If you compare it to Australia,

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Speaker 18: there they're maximum penalties fifty million Australian dollars. But for

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Speaker 18: kind of medium sized and domestically located companies, this is

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Speaker 18: a serious deterrent.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, Would you cite Australia as an example of

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Speaker 2: something that does work or not?

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Speaker 18: Yeah? Look, I think the regulator there has real teeth.

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Speaker 18: And that's not to say our regulator is not doing

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Speaker 18: a good job. It's to say that the ageablec in

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Speaker 18: Australia is armed with the right tools, and they have

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Speaker 18: a broader range of tools beyond just big fines. They

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Speaker 18: can issue infringement notices, they have unfair contract provisions that

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Speaker 18: can be more easily enforced than the ones here in

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Speaker 18: New Zealand, so that there's a range of other tools

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Speaker 18: they have. But this will certainly help embold in our

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Speaker 18: Commist Commission. We think particularly the move from criminal to civil.

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Speaker 2: And so are these mistakes or is this deliberate behavior?

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Speaker 2: In general.

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Speaker 18: It can be both. But typically where you have a

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Speaker 18: business making a genuine error, they will have a potentially

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Speaker 18: have a defense under the fair trading active of reasonable mistake.

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Speaker 18: And also sure they might make a mistake. They might

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Speaker 18: have put o some misleading advertising something like that. Consumers

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Speaker 18: may have suffered some instrument Typically that would be reflected

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Speaker 18: in any fine that the court imposed. They'd look at

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Speaker 18: the circumstances of the case and go, actually, this is

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Speaker 18: at the mild end of the spectrum. We're not going

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Speaker 18: to give a five million dollar fine. We might give

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Speaker 18: something lower, but for that really deliberate, intentional stuff, having

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Speaker 18: a five million dollar fine possible should be a real deterrent.

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Speaker 2: All right, John appreciate it. John Duffy, who's the Consumer's

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Speaker 2: chief executive for thirteen minutes past seven pask what else

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Speaker 2: is reading over the weekend? Data centers. Yes, we want some.

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Speaker 2: It'd be great if we had enough power to actually

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Speaker 2: have them and support them and do all those sort

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Speaker 2: of things in this country. But in the they've done

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Speaker 2: some work in America, and the more places that you

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Speaker 2: have data centers, the more you pay for power. So

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Speaker 2: this is something this is a red flag as far

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Speaker 2: as I'm concerned. A residential bills row six percent on

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Speaker 2: average around the country in America. So if you think

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Speaker 2: we've got problems with power and the cost of power,

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Speaker 2: it's the same pretty much all over the world. So

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Speaker 2: six percent, remember that number. But in the three states

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Speaker 2: that have the most data centers, which are Virginia, Illinois,

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Speaker 2: and Ohio, they're paying thirteen percent more in Virginia, sixteen

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Speaker 2: percent more in Illinois, and twelve percent more in Ohio.

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Speaker 2: So in other words, when the data centers come to town,

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Speaker 2: they'll tell you how good it is, but you're going

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Speaker 2: to be paying for it. Thirteen past the mic Asking

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks

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Speaker 2: at be Mike, you mentioned the growth of data centers

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Speaker 2: in Illinois. Illinois now also in the news as the

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Speaker 2: surprise leader, and mortgage foreclosures as AI is replacing thousands

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Speaker 2: of jobs. I'll follow that up. Good tip seventeen past seven.

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Speaker 2: No grand slam for us this year is the all

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Speaker 2: Blacks fell to England. Of course I looked okay in

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Speaker 2: the first half, So no shortage of ankst and approbrium

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Speaker 2: on social media over the weekend if you follow that anyway.

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Speaker 2: Sir John Kerwin finds himself this morning in Italy and

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Speaker 2: he's with us morning, Mike, how are you very well?

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Speaker 17: Indeed?

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Speaker 2: Ye, exactly as far as defeats go. How bad was

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Speaker 2: this one?

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Speaker 19: Oh?

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Speaker 20: Pretty disappointing. I think for thirty minutes, as you just

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Speaker 20: mentioned that All Blacks were very, very good. I was

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Speaker 20: sitting in this thinking, we're all good here, but the

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Speaker 20: last ten minutes a couple of Eras are not kicking

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Speaker 20: the ball out, not taking shot at goal, and then

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Speaker 20: the second half we just lost our way a bit.

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Speaker 20: So I think that the most concerning thing, Mike is,

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Speaker 20: you know, we're seeing some brilliant rugby, but we're not

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Speaker 20: consistent over the eighty minutes. So but a soul searching

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Speaker 20: this morning.

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Speaker 2: Why would you not be consistent? What's gone wrong there?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: I think that's what the team need to ask themselves,

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Speaker 20: and the coaching stuff need to ask why are we

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Speaker 20: playing so well for twenty minutes and then you know

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Speaker 20: going off the ball and it seems to be consistent

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Speaker 20: for the season so far. So you know, I said

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Speaker 20: yesterday before the game, we'll have to play for eighty

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Speaker 20: minutes and play well for eighty minutes to beat the

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Speaker 20: English side. And we played well for thirty and then

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Speaker 20: we were you know, good and patches in the second half,

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Speaker 20: but England really dominated us and deserved to win. Not

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Speaker 20: to It's got a lot of soul searching about why

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Speaker 20: that's happening. You know, why is that happening? What are

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Speaker 20: the answers? You know, and you're asking the right question

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Speaker 20: and the answers I don't know. And I think that

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Speaker 20: the coaches will be asking those questions this morning. Why

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Speaker 20: are we losing our way?

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Speaker 17: It?

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Speaker 2: Not to defend this in any way, shape or form,

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Speaker 2: but we sort of get super angsty about it. But England,

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Speaker 2: we talked up, England were a good side. England were

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Speaker 2: to be watched and worried about. So we can't be

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Speaker 2: shocked that they win, can we.

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Speaker 20: No, we can't. And I think that you know, they

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Speaker 20: would have had the respect for the opposition, but I

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Speaker 20: think it's just this inconsistency make it's this this game

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Speaker 20: at the moment where you know, we saw it against

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Speaker 20: in the second half against South Africa that last twenty minutes.

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Speaker 20: You know, when have you seen a side that's up

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Speaker 20: seventeen points against like Scotland and not put forty on them.

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Speaker 20: So we're seeing stuff that you know, we're all a

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Speaker 20: little bit concerned about because we need to get back

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Speaker 20: to playing for eighty minutes. You know, you see you

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Speaker 20: saw in the second half, you know the boys when

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Speaker 20: when Boden went off sort of lost their way away.

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Speaker 20: But so you know, there's plenty of plenty of stuff

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Speaker 20: to work on for this week that they'll be really

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Speaker 20: disappoint in their performance for sure.

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Speaker 2: You know the text you get does Raisin need sacking?

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Speaker 2: It's all Raises faults, It's Canterbury conspiracy. Raiser needs to go.

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Speaker 2: What do you say?

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Speaker 20: You know, look, I think they'll do a massive review

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Speaker 20: on what the season has been like and I think

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Speaker 20: that's you know, it's a lonely place, being head coaching,

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Speaker 20: and you know they'll have to ask him some hard questions.

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Speaker 20: I'm hoping that they'll be asking a lot of hard

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Speaker 20: questions internally as well. So you know, I don't think

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Speaker 20: you get this job. And you know, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 20: if you asked, you know, Sir Graham and so Steve,

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Speaker 20: like when you started the job, were you as good

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Speaker 20: you know when you finished? No, So I think we

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Speaker 20: you know, coaches need to grow into the throle and

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Speaker 20: there'll be some hard questions asked for sure, and that's

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Speaker 20: why you take the job right. It's the hardest job

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Speaker 20: in the world and you should be challenged.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff might always good to catch up enjoy at least.

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Speaker 2: John Kowan out of Italy for us this morning, A

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Speaker 2: quick question for you technically speaking, why does WhatsApp periodically

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Speaker 2: give you a lisp? And how do you explain that?

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Speaker 2: Seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: out on the savings. Eight hundred triple nine three on

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Speaker 2: nine's the telephone number, or you can talk to the

868
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Speaker 2: friendly team. They're all their local and ready to to

869
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Speaker 2: your questions if you want to do it online About

870
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Speaker 2: Health dot co dot z Skett seven twenty four. I

871
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: think we can link the IEA's announcement last week over

872
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: peak oil to the current scenario faced by the Coalition

873
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: in Australia. Right, the Coalition in Australia is worth following

874
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: all by itself. It's quite possible, as any number of

875
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: Australian media outlets are pointing out at the moment that

876
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: we are watching a once large popular and governmental party

877
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: crumble in front of our eyes. Are the Party of

878
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: Menzi's Phraser Holt Howard collapsing over climate Now climate is oil.

879
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: And the International Energy Agency that once said, and not

880
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: long ago, by the way, but oil is done, an

881
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: investment should stop, has now changed its mind. It has

882
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: laid out a path in a projection whereby oil demand

883
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 2: continues to grow until at least twenty fifty. As OPEC said,

884
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: they welcome the rendezvous with reality. Trouble with the coalition

885
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 2: as the politics politics gets in the way of logic

886
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: and reality now muddying the waters slightly. Not only in

887
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: the Coalition but in the climate debate generally. Are the

888
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 2: deniers They don't help. The real argument is in the middle,

889
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 2: where people accept climate change of some description, but also

890
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: except we will not reach the powis number of one

891
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 2: point five. So if we aren't reaching the number, what's

892
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: the point of having it as a policy? Why promise

893
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: something you know you aren't going to deliver on the

894
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: same question, of course, can be asked of our government.

895
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: The current government has committed to it apparently doesn't act

896
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: like it puts out policy and adjustments that limit our

897
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: ability to get to the goal. But those policies and

898
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: adjustments are sensible. I mean, why would you ruin a

899
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: farmer for the sake of a promise you know you're

900
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: not going to keep? But then why have a policy

901
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: you know you won't keep anyway, Hence the coalition and

902
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: its destruction. Easier to say one thing, I guess and

903
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: do another, easier to be basically dishonest. That, sadly, our

904
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: guess is politics. Obviously, if a major political party falls,

905
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 2: then Australia's in trouble because that support will drift off

906
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: to the radicals. We're already starting to see that. But

907
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: what a thing to fall on. Ah, a fantastical idea

908
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: we went nuts over a decade ago, but can't extract

909
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: ourselves from because logic is well all down the line

910
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: of political attributes. As for the IEA, if you ever

911
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: wanted proof that the climate tid is out, their newly

912
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: minted Pea Coil twenty fifty call is it usky slightly

913
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: random as well. Deutsche Bank's Mapping the World Prices report,

914
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: It's been doing it since twenty twelve, looks at the

915
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 2: purchasing power. Do we have purchasing power in New Zealand?

916
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: Yes we do. We've moved up the ranks. We can

917
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: purchase more for our money. This is good. Why we'll impart.

918
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: Prices for our exports have risen faster than the prices

919
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 2: for our imports, so that's good. Relative purchasing power therefore

920
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: is better. We are better off. But as far as

921
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Speaker 2: salaries are concerned, Wellington's twenty nine out of sixty nine,

922
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: Auckland's thirty four out of sixty nine, so not bad.

923
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: Auckland's top for an assessment of the climate wellington housing

924
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: affordabilities improved. Auckland was thirty two out of sixty nine

925
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Speaker 2: on a price per square meter. Wellington has the fourteenth

926
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: highest disposable income after rent in the world. Do you

927
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: believe that both cities and the fifty percent least expensive

928
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: for monthly utilities? Cost of powers too expensive? Wellington's fourth

929
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: most expensive city in the world when it comes to

930
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Speaker 2: buying a bottle of domestic beer. Oh, I've got fun

931
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Speaker 2: facts all morning. Sadly for now though I don't have time.

932
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister is standing by and insisting on busting

933
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Speaker 2: through the door for a word after the news, which is.

934
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Speaker 1: Next no fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic

935
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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast, We're the Defender, embraced the impossible news to be.

936
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Speaker 2: Three minutes away from it to Monday morning, the Prime

937
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Speaker 2: Ministers in the studio. Good to see you, good to

938
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Speaker 2: see your team. I should Razor get sacked, that's an open.

939
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Speaker 21: Question as a Crusaders supporter, he said, this is the

940
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Speaker 21: heat I'm getting on the tech. I am the fierce

941
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Speaker 21: and winning all. That team has sort of a problem,

942
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Speaker 21: isn't it.

943
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 11: Is it?

944
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 21: Well, I mean like it's you know, we've we've lost

945
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 21: a few teams that we wouldn't have lost to in

946
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 21: the past, and so you want to run on the leadership.

947
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, sort of. I'm just asking you as a

948
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Speaker 2: leader under press.

949
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Speaker 21: No, No, you've got to give them, you got to

950
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Speaker 21: give them more time.

951
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Speaker 12: Yep.

952
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: Okay. The polls. I don't want to spend long on

953
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Speaker 2: the polls because I know your views on polls, but

954
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: we've got a poll out this morning. The Herald are

955
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: running a poll this morning saying it's thirty nine a

956
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: piece on CGT. We got a poll last week saying

957
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: it was fifty six in favor of CGT. Do you

958
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: have any read on CGT and whether it's a popular

959
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: policy and you'll have to fight it or not.

960
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Speaker 21: Look, I get why people think it's going to be popular,

961
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Speaker 21: but I can just tell you it's it's just going

962
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 21: to drive more spending, more borrowing, more taxing. That's what

963
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 21: these guys are doing yet again. I mean, you heard

964
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 21: Hipkins say he wants to lift the inflation target. He

965
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 21: said that he wants to borrow more money, and now

966
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 21: he wants to raise more tax This is kind of

967
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 21: perverse because they did that future Fund policy where they

968
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 21: lose seven hundred million dollars worth of dividends that fund

969
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 21: health and education. The money raised here is to give

970
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 21: people like you, me and Hipkins free GP visits. Yet

971
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 21: they won't support extending prescriptions out to twelve months, which

972
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 21: actually saves real visits to doctors. So yeah, it just

973
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 21: doesn't make sense to me. And it's actually the last

974
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 21: thing this country needs is to tax tax like you know,

975
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 21: and it's a capital gains tax on business they'll say

976
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 21: it's not us on every business, on every key we

977
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 21: saver account because every business has to operate in commercial

978
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 21: premises the tariffs.

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Speaker 2: We talked to McLear ly Ron, how big a winner

980
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Speaker 2: out of this are we from the States?

981
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Speaker 21: Ob well, red meats our number one export to the US,

982
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Speaker 21: as you know, and so it's about thirty percent up

983
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 21: to twenty five to thirty percent of our total what

984
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 21: we sell to the US is back to where it

985
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 21: was pre Liberation Day, which is really good outcome for

986
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 21: our exporters there. There's a massive, actual Mike global shortage

987
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 21: of red meat around the world, and it's going to

988
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 21: take a while for that livestock to come on around

989
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 21: the world, probably out to twenty thirty, twenty thirty one.

990
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 21: I's sund at the christ at JAMP show on Friday

991
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 21: talking to silver fer and farmers who sell a lot

992
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 21: of stuff into America, and obviously that just helps these

993
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 21: guys at big time.

994
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: You get caught in the hail on Friday.

995
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 21: It's christein.

996
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: Let the races go, the races. It was unbelievable over

997
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: the weekend anyway. Sorry, Elbow claims credit for this. He

998
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 2: claims it was his campaigning and lobbying with the White

999
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: House that got Trump across the line. Do you believe that.

1000
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 21: I wouldn't want to cast dispersions on elbow, but I

1001
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 21: think you know, US trade policies are somewhat mercurial at

1002
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 21: the moment, so I think it was it was a

1003
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 21: reality where there is just not enough supply in the US.

1004
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 21: If you think about the New Zealand beef, we sell

1005
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 21: it's very high quality into the US. Often the US

1006
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 21: beef's the lower quality. They often mix it up between

1007
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 21: the two. So no, I think it's a domestic reality

1008
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 21: in the US. You've seen inflation and prices on red

1009
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 21: meat in the US going in from twenty five to

1010
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 21: thirty two percent, So it's just common sense.

1011
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 2: Actually, we are committed you state to net zero, yep.

1012
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: As we watch the coalition faller part in Australia as

1013
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: they dump net zero. You've got wats in South America

1014
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: at the moment for what purpose given that we're not

1015
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: going to get there.

1016
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 21: Well, we are going to get to net zero twenty fifty,

1017
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 21: no doubt about that.

1018
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 2: You believe that in your yeah, yep, Because.

1019
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 21: When you look at our particular emissions max half of

1020
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 21: it's in agriculture, but the other halfs in co two

1021
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 21: thirty percent of manufacturing, twenty percent on transport. And when

1022
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 21: you look at the innovation pipeline, genuinely, I've looked at

1023
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 21: this really closely to say, on the agricultural side of

1024
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 21: the emission side, we have some incredible inventions and technology.

1025
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 21: It's come of put four hundred and fifty million dollars

1026
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 21: into this agri zero stuff, and there's some really we

1027
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 21: just need one of those things to come off and

1028
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 21: we can increase production and productivity of the farming sector

1029
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 21: and also meet our missions target. So we solve this

1030
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 21: through technology. And the technology is not just bumper stickers,

1031
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 21: it's real projects out.

1032
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: Okay. But and yet what says before he goes to

1033
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: South America that you guys may well pull the trigger

1034
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: on buying credits internationally, which means you only do that

1035
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: if you're not doing it yourself.

1036
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 21: Well, we ain't going to send that. Well, reassure everybody,

1037
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 21: we ain't sending billions of dollars overseas. We are going

1038
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 21: to do everything we can. You've seen us align a

1039
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 21: lot of our our thinking to our domestic targets. Are

1040
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 21: things that we can control. We made some changes to

1041
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 21: the ets recently. Our INNDC two targets aligned with our

1042
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 21: domestic targets. That's exactly as it should be.

1043
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: So if you can't do it that way, would you

1044
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: buy credits?

1045
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 21: Well, we will give it a good go. You're talking

1046
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 21: about the NDC too target Yeah, we're going to.

1047
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: Give it a good go. But in giving it a

1048
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: good go and failing and falling and still being committed

1049
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: to net zero, well, what I'm not.

1050
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 21: Going to do, just so a crystal clear I'm not

1051
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 21: going to take one is I don't think the zeal

1052
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 21: coming out of Paris is a good idea because we

1053
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 21: lose a huge amount of We get damaged badly from

1054
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 21: competitive countries and from big, large multinationals. The second things, though,

1055
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 21: is that we've made a commitment very clearly, is that

1056
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 21: we're not putting agricultural pricing into place. We're not going

1057
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 21: to move farmers out of New Zealand into Chile or

1058
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 21: any other country on Earth.

1059
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: It's worse.

1060
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 21: Our farmers are the most productive and the most carbon efficient,

1061
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 21: So we're not moving jobs out of this country because

1062
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 21: every time we're not going to punished farmers as a

1063
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 21: result of doing that, which is what the last lot

1064
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 21: wanted to do. So we will do everything we can

1065
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 21: tot that target, and if we don't hit the target,

1066
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 21: then so be it. We roll into NDC twenty thirty five,

1067
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 21: which is alne with our international target targets.

1068
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: Would you can see the tide is starting to go

1069
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 2: out on the argument in general globally.

1070
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Speaker 21: Well, I think there's so many targets, Mike, and the

1071
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 21: frustration is essentially doing and or went off internationally and

1072
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 21: disconnected the international commitments. Essentially, I think from the domestic commitments.

1073
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Speaker 21: Our domestic commitment we enshrined in legislation, had full support

1074
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 21: across the Parliament for twenty fifty. We're on track to

1075
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 21: deliver net zero twenty fifty. Some of the reports could

1076
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 21: say he might even get there four five six years early,

1077
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 21: and we've done practical, common sense things to make sure

1078
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 21: that we're on track with that. You've seen us align

1079
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Speaker 21: our international The next Paris commitment is in DC twenty

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Speaker 21: thirty five that is now on the same track as

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Speaker 21: our twenty fifty domestic target, and that's smart and so

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Speaker 21: I think I think we're doing I don't have any

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Speaker 21: intention whatsoever of coming off the twenty fifty target like

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Speaker 21: I've seen the Australian Coalition announced last week.

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Speaker 2: D because we don't do that. No, okay, Aco Mike Burgess,

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Speaker 2: did you see what he said last week about China? No,

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Speaker 2: let me read it. And when they penetrated your networks,

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Speaker 2: he refers to China. When they penetrated your networks, they

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Speaker 2: actively and aggressively map your systems and seek to maintain persistent,

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Speaker 2: undetected access that enables them to conduct sabotage at a

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Speaker 2: time and moment of their choosing. And he says that

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Speaker 2: moment is now. His reference was to fire by his partners.

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Speaker 2: So not only Australia but us as well. Are you

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Speaker 2: aware of that?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, we're very aware of high levels of foreign interference.

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Speaker 2: Why aren't you telling us this? Why is he telling

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Speaker 2: me this through the Australian media And we aren't.

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Speaker 21: Well, we are actually if you look at the statements

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Speaker 21: from our intelligence agency chiefs. We've been talking more and

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Speaker 21: more transparently and more openly about this when there's been

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Speaker 21: an attack on our parliamentary systems. I was the first

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Speaker 21: promise to call it out and I've said to President

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Speaker 21: She and Premier League, we will continue to call these

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Speaker 21: things out publicly or privately.

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Speaker 2: So they're in, and they're in now, and they're able

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Speaker 2: to sabotage us at their choosing. Well, so what he

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Speaker 2: says is correct.

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Speaker 21: Well, no, I'm not saying I agree with that. I'm

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Speaker 21: just saying to you, I agree that there is massive

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Speaker 21: levels of foreign interference, the levels that we haven't seen before.

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Speaker 21: I can reassure you that we are doing everything we

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Speaker 21: can to make sure we toughen up our defenses.

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Speaker 2: Where we see it, we.

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Speaker 20: Call it out.

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Speaker 21: You're seeing us get sensitive about the kockar because we

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Speaker 21: have security intelligence responsibilities there. You're seeing us. You know,

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Speaker 21: there are some amazing technology companies. I was actually at

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Speaker 21: one last week's starboard that are actually mapping things like

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Speaker 21: undersea cables and in mapping ships and areas around undersea cables.

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Speaker 21: There's a whole bunch of smart stuff that's now going on.

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Speaker 21: We're taking this really seriously. I think we've been way

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Speaker 21: too complacent. But since we came to power, that's been

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Speaker 21: one of the big focus areas for me as Minister

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Speaker 21: of Intel.

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Speaker 2: So where's the SI Isn't this because it struck me

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Speaker 2: that this guy, this guy made headlines in Australia and

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Speaker 2: good on him for doing so. And he seems to

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Speaker 2: be one of those blokes who comes out very publicly

1129
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Speaker 2: and since he's here are the issues we're facing. But

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Speaker 2: when he involves flybys, I e us, Yes, where are we?

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Speaker 2: Why are wyn't the headlines all over the place? Why

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Speaker 2: don't you telling us?

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Speaker 19: Well?

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Speaker 21: I mean, I mean I've seen what our what our

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Speaker 21: heads of sa S and GCSB have said publicly, and

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Speaker 21: they've done actually been very very straight up about it

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Speaker 21: as well. And I think whether I don't know why

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Speaker 21: it's not reported on as much as it may be

1139
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Speaker 21: in Australia, but I can tell you at the time,

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Speaker 21: you know, cerdainly the gallery and p understood that these

1141
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Speaker 21: guys were talking about things in different ways.

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Speaker 2: The white thing you push back from schools. There's a

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Speaker 2: couple of hundred schools. Now this is the board direction.

1144
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 2: So a couple of hundred schools are basically telling you

1145
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Speaker 2: to naf off. Are you running the country or are

1146
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Speaker 2: the schools running the country.

1147
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 21: Well, we are, and we're making it very clear to

1148
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Speaker 21: boards your number one priorities get your kids to school

1149
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Speaker 21: and teach them the basics brilliantly. I do not care

1150
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Speaker 21: about anything else. That is what you have to be doing.

1151
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Speaker 21: That is job number one. We are in such a

1152
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Speaker 21: parlor state around attendance and academic achievement, and I'm really

1153
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Speaker 21: passionate about this. This is sort of one of my

1154
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 21: motivations for coming into politics was that how on earth

1155
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Speaker 21: do you call yourself a first world country if you

1156
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Speaker 21: can't have over half your kids not going to.

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Speaker 2: School regular which is what we start agree more. And

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Speaker 2: yet when the harsh thing the first thing, I mean,

1159
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Speaker 2: the teachers is a different story on the curriculum, but

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Speaker 2: the first thing the boards do, two hundred of them,

1161
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: is go, we hear what you say, and we're not

1162
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Speaker 2: going to do it. I mean, what does it tell

1163
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Speaker 2: you about, Well, we've.

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Speaker 21: Got two and a half thousand schools, But it just

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Speaker 21: says that's what parents should be pushing those boards damn

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Speaker 21: hard on because I'm assuming then they've got outstanding academic achievement,

1167
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Speaker 21: outstanding attendant records. That is what they have to be

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Speaker 21: focused on.

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Speaker 2: It's what you're up against, though, isn't it. There is

1170
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Speaker 2: a mindset in this country that people will die on

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Speaker 2: a helover race as opposed to educating the kids.

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Speaker 21: It's just the wrong conversation to be having. You know,

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Speaker 21: we're talking about our kids and their future and their

1174
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Speaker 21: ability to access high paying jobs. There is a heap

1175
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Speaker 21: of them out there in the world. We're really serious

1176
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Speaker 21: about it. You ask why Australia is thirty five percent

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Speaker 21: wealthier than New Zealand, by Singapore is now twice as wealthy, Irelands.

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Speaker 2: Twice as wealthy.

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Speaker 21: We have to get better educated and so you know,

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Speaker 21: the boards need to wake up. They need to get

1181
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 21: very very focused on their core challenge and tasks, which

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Speaker 21: is to hold that school team accountable and leadership team

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Speaker 21: accountable for delivering attendance and academic achievement.

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Speaker 12: Period.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate time Christopher Lucks and Prime Minister thirteenth to wake.

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Speaker 1: The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by the News Talks.

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Speaker 2: A be Jeeves. Mike has lux and finally grown a

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Speaker 2: peer and pressive, refreshing clarity. Thanks for asking the questions

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Speaker 2: that need to be asked. You to be foot on

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Speaker 2: the pedal. Very nice of you to say so, Rachel

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Speaker 2: Reeves looking for to rods. Catch up tomorrow. Reeves, if

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Speaker 2: you're not following the budget, which is just a week

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Speaker 2: and a bit away. Has you turned on the tax

1195
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Speaker 2: So we've talked about it many, many times on the program.

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Speaker 2: She was going to tax more? They said they would

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Speaker 2: not tax more. She is going to tax more or

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Speaker 2: was going to tax more? The only question was who

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Speaker 2: she was going to tax and how big are broken promise?

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Speaker 2: It was going to be over the weekend. They panicked basically,

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Speaker 2: and there is going to be And they let the

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Speaker 2: Office of Budget Responsibility know that there was a change

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Speaker 2: of heart that what they thought was going to happen

1204
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Speaker 2: isn't going to happen. This is being reported over the

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Speaker 2: weekend by the Financial Times. They basically ripped up the

1206
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Speaker 2: more tax plan. Now next problem, fine, keep you a

1207
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Speaker 2: political promise and not taxing people more. Your whole just

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Speaker 2: for the year. The annual deficit for the year of

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Speaker 2: sixty five ish billion New Zealand dollars sixty five ish billions,

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Speaker 2: So that's the size of your hole. She was going

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Speaker 2: to fill that by taxing people more. Now she's not,

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Speaker 2: So what's she going to do? So we'll have more

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Speaker 2: from rod other than he didn't have time with the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister. A little bit disappointing that bill we talked

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Speaker 2: about early on in the program, the business of the

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Speaker 2: fair trading. Finds that bill's not going into the House

1217
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Speaker 2: until next year sometimes so it may or may not

1218
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Speaker 2: even pass before the next election. That's the finding people

1219
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Speaker 2: millions of dollars if they break the fair trading law.

1220
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Speaker 2: Other thing that isn't going to be happening until next year, disappointingly,

1221
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 2: is this is the business of foreigners and housing.

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Speaker 17: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of you against foreigners and housing,

1224
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: but nevertheless, it is going to be the change and

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Speaker 2: people can come into the country and they can start

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Speaker 2: a business, and they can grow the economy, and they

1227
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: can make their investments and all that sort of stuff.

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00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: But one of the things they needed, and this was

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Speaker 2: the deal they did with New Zealand. First they dragged

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00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 2: Winston kicking and screaming, is five million plus you can

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Speaker 2: go buy a house.

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was under way. I thought that was

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Speaker 2: all set to go. It's not going to be passed

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Speaker 2: until next year, first half of twenty twenty six. So

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Speaker 2: that's another example of saying one thing and doing it

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Speaker 2: away a lot longer or way later than we might

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Speaker 2: have anticipated, which is unfortunate. Eight minutes away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate news Dogs.

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Speaker 2: They'd be a mention of the Prime Minister of the

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Speaker 2: hale over the world, taking in Christ so hailing at

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Speaker 2: the races. And then I'm watching a little bit of

1243
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: the Crecket yesterday just glorious. So I mean it's glorious

1244
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: and it's haling. I don't know what's going on with

1245
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Speaker 2: the weather at the moment anyway, more with the war

1246
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Speaker 2: with the lads and the sports commentary, the Joseph Parker thing,

1247
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Speaker 2: I because I love Joseph Parker, and I've told you

1248
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: this about a million times before, and I was very

1249
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Speaker 2: very reassured. I'm assuming they said as whereabouts is unknown,

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Speaker 2: but I'm assuming he put out a statement sort of

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00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon our time, so I'm assuming is in our

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Speaker 2: part of the world. He'll either be in Samira at

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Speaker 2: home here. But he seemed genuinely surprised, and you want

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Speaker 2: to give him the benefit of the doubt. And it

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Speaker 2: might well be one of those things if you want

1256
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Speaker 2: an insight into how these things work. And once again

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Speaker 2: I refer you to the Horne documentary on Netflix. Eddie

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Speaker 2: Hern Barry Hearne, and they look after a guy called

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Speaker 2: connor Ben who I noticed, boxer connor Ben, who I

1260
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Speaker 2: noticed was active with U Banks over the weekend and

1261
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Speaker 2: he won. Anyway, connor Ben's been and broiled and this

1262
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: is featured fairly heavily in the documentary embroiled in that

1263
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: sort of activity for a good number of years. He

1264
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: claimed innocent. He had to fight through the courts. Once

1265
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: you get into the courts, it becomes a complete shambles because,

1266
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: of course the wheels of justice turned slowly, but ultimately

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Speaker 2: he got cleared. So I'm assuming I take Parker at

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00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 2: his word, and I can't, for the life of me

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00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: work out why you would put yourself in the position

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Speaker 2: he allegedly did when you're doing a voluntary test on

1271
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: the day of a fight. So let's see where it goes,

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Speaker 2: I guess, but it was a shock anyway. We'll talk

1273
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: about that with Andrew Sevil and Jason Pine. Do you

1274
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: think we should raise the Rugby? Should we answer it?

1275
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: Should we ankst Rugby? Well, see, it's a very nineteen

1276
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: nineties thing on a Monday to still we talk our

1277
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: rise and aide sacking. You know, didn't we get over

1278
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: that years ago. Anyway, more sport for you.

1279
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Speaker 1: Shortly asking the questions others won't the mic asking breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate doing real estate differently since nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy three, News Talks, head Bag.

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Speaker 5: Spra Room.

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Speaker 22: It is no wrong, no run cars that.

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Speaker 9: I think I lunch.

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Speaker 19: And a win here for New Zealand, a little bit

1286
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Speaker 19: close and tighter in the end than they perhaps anticipated

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Speaker 19: with fifteen of us to go.

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Speaker 2: It's a win by seven runs.

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Speaker 15: Speaking, it's a man chatter on Wednesday Night got the

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Speaker 15: decider between the Angle Runses and the silver Phones because.

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Speaker 21: Ingram, there's some winning all lec tamers. Sort of a problem,

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Speaker 21: isn't it. But you know we we've lost a few

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Speaker 21: times that we wouldn't have lost you in the past.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary barks with Spears Finance smart Asset

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Speaker 2: Jason Pin and Andrews both well us fellows, Good morning,

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Speaker 2: my nay, good morning. Andrew. You're an old mate of Parker.

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Speaker 2: Is what do you reckon?

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Speaker 15: Like I think you said before, I think we had

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Speaker 15: to take his take him at his word that the

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Speaker 15: strange thing is the bizarre thing is why on earth

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Speaker 15: would he do that.

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Speaker 17: Knowing he's going to be.

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Speaker 15: Tested so close to a fight, and if he had

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Speaker 15: a one, this would have been even worse, I suppose,

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Speaker 15: because he would have been in line to fight Usik.

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Speaker 15: I understand that he will definitely fight it. I understand

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Speaker 15: he firmly, firmly believes Mike that it's that's a mistake

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Speaker 15: has been made and it is not anything to do

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Speaker 15: with cocaine.

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Speaker 2: No, that would be my read on it as well.

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Speaker 2: Have you talked to Higgins, by the way, I haven't known,

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Speaker 2: because he'll Mike can't work out what he thinks. So

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Speaker 2: I mean that he's the one who'd be handling it all.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't he very difficult also from the other side of

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Speaker 2: the world, which makes it complex, complex or complicated?

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Speaker 15: Yes, it does. And what you've got to understand, Mike,

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Speaker 15: is that VARDA is the Voluntary Antidoping Association. It's primarily

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Speaker 15: it tests boxes boxes. A lot of boxes don't get

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Speaker 15: drug tested, but those that do and those who have

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Speaker 15: it in their contracts for each separate fight, and it's

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Speaker 15: demanded by a lot of promoters and management. It is voluntary,

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Speaker 15: so they I think the rules are eight weeks out

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Speaker 15: from a fight. You can be tested anywhere any time.

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Speaker 15: You have to let them know their whereabouts. The test

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Speaker 15: is like you do with Olympic sports and warder rules,

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Speaker 15: and then you'll be tested after the fight as well.

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Speaker 2: Was it a big deal for you and the sports show? Jason?

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Speaker 2: Were people into it?

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Speaker 18: Are not?

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Speaker 17: Room? Not really.

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Speaker 7: I've got a couple of texts asking if we were

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Speaker 7: going to address it, and I don't know what you say.

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Speaker 7: You say, look, we wait and see what happens. I

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Speaker 7: think as you both say, we take Joseph Parker on

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Speaker 7: his word. There's never been a suggestion of this in

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Speaker 7: the past. Why would he, as Andrew just said, why

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Speaker 7: would he so? Look like what your hope is that

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Speaker 7: it is a mistake. The only cautionary tail is that

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Speaker 7: it's rare for these things to be a mistake. But

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Speaker 7: I hope on this occasion that it is.

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Speaker 2: Right Rugby Andrew. It must be hard work now, sort

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Speaker 2: of building up to Wales. It's not really two terms used,

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Speaker 2: you know with Wales building up to Wales? Do you

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Speaker 2: especially when you come up? I mean, how different it

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Speaker 2: could have been this week?

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Speaker 20: Eh?

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Speaker 15: Yep, yep, it would have been a huge week and

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Speaker 15: the well shown up to much. I see they beat

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Speaker 15: Japan only just at the weekend. Yeah, frustrating, Mike. Look

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Speaker 15: overall what thirteen played is it ten wins and three

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Speaker 15: losses from memory, which on the face of it doesn't

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Speaker 15: look too bad. But they should have never lost to Argentina.

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Speaker 15: In Argentina, they shouldn't have been blown away by the

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Speaker 15: spring box. And if they'd played consistently on the weekend

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Speaker 15: to Twickenham after a twelve new lead, you did not

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Speaker 15: throw away a twelve new lead. They should have They

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Speaker 15: should have beaten England. As I mentioned last week, Mike,

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Speaker 15: they've got this third quarter atis where they go into

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Speaker 15: the dressing room and then come out and they're all

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Speaker 15: at sea. I think that suggests again, I think we

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Speaker 15: mentioned it on the show. I think it suggests again

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Speaker 15: as a disconnect between what the coaches want in game

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Speaker 15: plans and what the players are playing.

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Speaker 7: What do you make of it, Jason, I am less

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Speaker 7: confident about the World Cup in twenty twenty seven now

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Speaker 7: than I was when Razor took over two years ago.

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Speaker 15: That's a good point, Jason, because they was sitting there

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Speaker 15: yesterday looking at the World rankings and in a World Cup,

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Speaker 15: say semi final, would you back this All Black team

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Speaker 15: to beat South Africa, France, England Island at full strength?

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Speaker 19: No?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely not. The fourth quarter things interesting too. The All

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Speaker 7: Blacks haven't scored a fourth quarter points in the last

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Speaker 7: four test matches, so they haven't scored a point but

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Speaker 7: between halftime in the sixty minute mark for the last four.

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Speaker 7: The big problem for me, guys is that I haven't

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Speaker 7: seen improvement under Scott Robertson. I think it would be

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Speaker 7: very hard for you to sit there, hand on heart

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Speaker 7: and say that he has improved this team over the

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Speaker 7: last two years. I feel like he's chips in on

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Speaker 7: Richie Warner to come back and make a massive difference,

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Speaker 7: which is firstly not absolutely certain that he will and

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Speaker 7: second a lot of pressure for one bloke. You're right said,

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Speaker 7: there's there's just a disconnect. Where are the flowing attacking

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Speaker 7: moves that used to be the hallmark of All Blacks rugby.

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Speaker 7: It's there are so many places to try and focus

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Speaker 7: on improvement, but that's the thing we haven't seen. We

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Speaker 7: haven't seen improvement of the All Blacks under Scott Robertson.

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Speaker 15: Look at the look at the stagnant attack, look at

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Speaker 15: the aerial game. Yet it hasn't improved, and that's been

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Speaker 15: a bug by the last couple of years since these

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Speaker 15: rule changes came in. Around my high kicks, Mike, Yeah,

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Speaker 15: she was. There's plenty to go through, Penny to work on. Overall,

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Speaker 15: that game wasn't too bad, but there's a lot of kicking.

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Speaker 15: And the TMO was in the referee z here the

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Speaker 15: whole game, which they have been during these test matches,

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Speaker 15: and I assume the TMO was there for foul playing,

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Speaker 15: for deciding on tries.

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Speaker 17: It's just gone too far.

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Speaker 2: Listen, hold on, hold that thought now and answer me

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Speaker 2: this when you come back, both of you. How come

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Speaker 2: we've got an interim CEO at the Rugby Union. That's

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Speaker 2: the other thing I want to know more In a

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Speaker 2: moment thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, how

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Speaker 1: it by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be News Talks at me sixteen past eight, the

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Speaker 2: Monday Morning commentary Barks with Spears, fight ads.

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Speaker 1: Smart ass and equipment finance for Kiwi businesses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just correct me if I'm wrong, Jason, Don't they

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Speaker 2: have an interim CEO? And if they do have an

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Speaker 2: interim CEO. Does that mean they can't find anybody or

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Speaker 2: they just want to take their time of what's going on?

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Speaker 18: Do we know?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Steve Lancaster is the interim CEO at the moment.

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Speaker 7: He applied for the job apparently and hasn't been given it,

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Speaker 7: so he's on an interim basis. Yeah, presumably they can't

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Speaker 7: find the candidate with all of the skills required, and

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Speaker 7: if someone has all those skills required, they're not interested

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Speaker 7: in the New Zealand rugby job. They'd rather be doing

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Speaker 7: something else. So yeah, it looks as they will drag

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Speaker 7: into the new year before we find out who's going

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Speaker 7: to take the top job.

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Speaker 15: You look at the all Blacks mic and as we

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Speaker 15: know with business and sport, it's all starts at the top, right.

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Speaker 15: They need a new CEO in there with a firm hand.

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Speaker 15: They need a CEO who can straddle the business world

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Speaker 15: but also community rugby, which in some parts of the

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Speaker 15: country is dying, if not dead. Provincial unions as well

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Speaker 15: often have concerns that need to be raised and fair enough,

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Speaker 15: it is a very very difficult job. I know there's

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Speaker 15: been a whole heap of kiwi candidates that either turned

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Speaker 15: the job down or have had some real second thoughts

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Speaker 15: about it. They wanted a new Zealander. But it sounds

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Speaker 15: like this englishman who is running six Nations is apparently

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Speaker 15: the front runner for this job. The people I've spoken

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Speaker 15: to and Rugby say if he's appointed it'll be a

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Speaker 15: complete disaster.

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Speaker 2: Interesting is it? Politics? Is politics at play in the job?

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Speaker 2: Would I look at it and go, geez, look at

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Speaker 2: the politics? I can't be bothered as there.

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Speaker 15: It can it can be quite political. You know, you've

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Speaker 15: got you You've got a feeling new board.

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Speaker 17: I think.

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Speaker 15: I think David Kirk is a is a is a

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Speaker 15: strong personality. It's done a good job so far, I think,

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Speaker 15: and he's onto it. But that that is a key

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01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 15: and there's other executive roles that remain unfilled. That is

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Speaker 15: a key, key job. They've got to get it right, mate.

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Speaker 22: Can I argue it's just just I've heard from impeccable

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Speaker 22: sources that you were on the sports field on the.

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Speaker 15: Weekend, well at court the pickle pedal ball.

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Speaker 17: And you lost.

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Speaker 2: No, that's seeing. That's why you journalists have the reputation

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Speaker 2: you do the amount of fake news pedal what is it?

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Speaker 17: Is it fake news?

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Speaker 9: Donald?

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Speaker 14: Is it?

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Speaker 2: It's It's just, it's just it's just embarrassing, that sort

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Speaker 2: of fake news.

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Speaker 15: And I also understand like you used to do to

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Speaker 15: me in the early nine he's on those magnificent grass

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Speaker 15: courts at Hagley Park. You were grunting and screaming and yelling.

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Speaker 17: To put off the opposition.

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Speaker 15: What was really because it's got nothing to do with

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Speaker 15: the force you're hitting the ball with, because you've got

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Speaker 15: tiny little arms and there's no power there. What was now?

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Speaker 15: I'd like to listen. I'd like to bring in the

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Speaker 15: impeccable sauce to corroborate my story.

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Speaker 23: I just want to say, I just want to ask Andrew,

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Speaker 23: because we've got we've got shared common we've got some

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Speaker 23: common ground. Now, Andrew, when he played you, did he

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Speaker 23: hog the baseline and just shout and scream the whole

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Speaker 23: time to distract you?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and try and just try to grind you down.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, Now, Kate.

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Speaker 15: In the early nineties, he would turn up in these

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Speaker 15: skin tight white pants shorts that the Onnie Parron skin

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Speaker 15: tight white shirt.

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Speaker 17: He had a mustache back then, and.

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Speaker 15: He drove a rag and he drove a rag top

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Speaker 15: next five, and he'd arrive at the public courts and

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Speaker 15: people would think, what a whanker does he still does

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Speaker 15: he still turn up dress like that?

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Speaker 23: No, I wouldn't allow any of that. Thankfully he did

1487
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Speaker 23: not turn up dress like that. But there was so

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Speaker 23: much noise that I got embarrassed for the surrounding environment

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Speaker 23: that I might need to issue an apology.

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Speaker 15: We were there other people on courts beside you, well, no.

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Speaker 23: Just people walking past, and I thought this is getting

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Speaker 23: a little bit. But the other thing where if he

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Speaker 23: misses a shot, which okay, rare, but if he does

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Speaker 23: miss a shot, he's so angry at himself, the court,

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Speaker 23: the racket, everybody. Did you get that?

1496
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Speaker 15: Did you remind him it's not the US Open final,

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Speaker 15: It's just a social game on a Saturday or Sunday.

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Speaker 23: I tried to say that so many times.

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Speaker 15: I tried to say the jug of Pens Awards just relaxed.

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Speaker 2: Could we at least concede that the talent came back?

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Speaker 2: Almost instantly, Catie, the talent came Oh.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, no, no, no, I'm I think I think the old

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Speaker 23: muscle memory was there, or so you kept telling me

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Speaker 23: as soon as you hopped on court. You were like, no, no,

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Speaker 23: I'm back, I'm back.

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Speaker 2: And also who won?

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01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 7: Who won?

1508
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 23: We didn't actually play a game. We were trying to

1509
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 23: just do some hits and and sort of learn the

1510
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 23: art of pickleball.

1511
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: But yeah won that?

1512
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah he would have won that.

1513
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 23: Yeah he would have been if that had been a game,

1514
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 23: I would have won.

1515
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1516
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:28,440
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, thanks for I thought you had pilates

1517
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 2: or yoga.

1518
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:31,799
Speaker 23: I I'm on court as we speak.

1519
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,799
Speaker 2: Goodness, goodness sake. Thanks very much for organizing that, Andrew.

1520
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 2: That was absolutely fantastic. My apologies, Jason. I try and

1521
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 2: elevate the conversation in general around this particular segment, but

1522
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,560
Speaker 2: you know there are those who sort of drag it

1523
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 2: down just a little bit.

1524
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 15: So we are we done?

1525
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 17: Or the more questions?

1526
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 15: You had a question before?

1527
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: No, I didn't Selby and Selby and Trump? By the way,

1528
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 2: fire four, Selby's up fire four and the champion a

1529
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:54,879
Speaker 2: champion snooker.

1530
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 17: It's Donald Trump playing snooker.

1531
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 2: No, you you're on the bulletin tonight or is this

1532
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: your month off?

1533
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 15: That's and again we're of nearing December.

1534
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 17: Mate, you'll be on lead next week, surely?

1535
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 2: Well, if I am, You're gonna feel really bad about this,

1536
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 2: aren't you.

1537
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 17: Well.

1538
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: Nice to see you guys, Andrew Saville and Jason Pine

1539
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: it is and Kate Hawksby It is eight twenty two My.

1540
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: Costing breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News togs Head be.

1541
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: Well you know the road. Of course, conditions can change

1542
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: in a heartbeat. Gravel one minute, pouring rain the next

1543
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: may be a little bit of beach sand or money

1544
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 2: farm track tossed in for good measure. That is New Zealand.

1545
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: Of course, it's unpredictable, it's challenging, it is beautiful. It

1546
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 2: is where the defender feels right at home. So it's

1547
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: not a tribute to the past these days, it's a

1548
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 2: living legend, constantly reinvented for today's ever evolving well born.

1549
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: From pure capability decades ago, it's now remind with the

1550
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: cutting edge technology, think several steps ahead, terrain response that

1551
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: intelligently reads the road for you, adapted dynamics keeps every

1552
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 2: corner firmly under control, and the same vehicle that confidently

1553
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: takes you deep into the back country takes you to

1554
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 2: school on a Monday morning for the school run as well.

1555
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 2: Looks effortless doing it inside premium modern luxury. Of course

1556
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 2: outside you got your own mistakable rugged strength electric hybrid

1557
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: option available these days. That proves you can be truly

1558
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 2: powerful and environmentally responsible at the same time. Because in

1559
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 2: the country built on exploration and adventure, confidence still matters.

1560
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,879
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what the defender is. See your local

1561
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: retailer today for your defender.

1562
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 10: Lasky.

1563
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: I should also meant mentioned Tif Chittenden wrote to me

1564
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 2: and gave me the news on Zach Tucker who won

1565
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: the senior and Tommy Hart who won the junior. What

1566
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm talking about karting kart Sport New Zealand that went

1567
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 2: to the FIA Arrive and Drive World Cup, which is

1568
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: a new idea. It's a good idea too. So basically

1569
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 2: it's a race, it's even it's fair. They hand out

1570
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: all the equipment. The equipment is pulled so you don't

1571
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 2: have to take your own equipment to turn up. They

1572
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: hand you a cart, your race around, you run and

1573
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 2: so Zach won the senior category and Tommy Hart came second.

1574
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: So motors sport is in very good hands. So that's

1575
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 2: the news of the carting world. Are housing going off

1576
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 2: in Australia at the moment, so much, so much money

1577
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 2: is being borrowed in the housing market and Australia at

1578
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,879
Speaker 2: the moment. Over the weekend they started having a discussion

1579
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 2: about limiting it. So in other words, it's gone. That's

1580
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 2: more from stink price out of Australia for you.

1581
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 20: Right after the.

1582
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 12: News which is.

1583
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: Opinionated, informed, und apologetic, the my Hosking breakfast with a

1584
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: Vita Retirement Communities, Life Your Way news talks had been I.

1585
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: Was referring to before the news tale of two housing

1586
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: markets ow one versus Australia's ten billion dollar surge right

1587
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 2: in homelanes taken out by investors since the Reserve banks

1588
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 2: started cutting rates, so now the calls for bank regulators

1589
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: to impose nationwide borrowing restrictions. In the three months to

1590
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: the end of September, investors took out more than forty

1591
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 2: billion worth of mortgages, overwhelming majority of them used by

1592
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: existing properties, both a record for the lure of loans

1593
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: and which is climbed by more than the third and

1594
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 2: six months, and the number of loans that towards fifty

1595
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 2: eight thousand of them. Investor lending has now reached more

1596
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: than forty percent of the value of mortgages taken out

1597
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 2: by owner occupies, which is a record share in New

1598
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: South Wales and Victoria. In New South Wales the average

1599
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,560
Speaker 2: new mortgage is now eight one hundred and twenty eight thousand,

1600
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 2: and in Victoria the new average mortgage is six hundred

1601
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: and forty seven thousand. Queensland it's gone up by thirteen

1602
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: percent to six hundred and eighty seven thousand, so they

1603
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 2: cannot get enough of the house. It's twenty two minutes away.

1604
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 10: From nine international correspondence with ends in eye insurance, peace

1605
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 10: of mind for New Zealand business and in.

1606
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: The big red land of the left of the Steve

1607
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 2: Price to morning.

1608
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 14: To you good there, left absolutely with or left?

1609
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 2: Yes? Does? When does? If she doesn't survive, susan ly,

1610
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 2: if she doesn't survive, when is it happening?

1611
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 14: It might happen before the end of the year. There's

1612
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 14: another week of parliamentary settings to come before they wrap

1613
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 14: up for the year. The noises are just getting too

1614
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 14: loud now. The Australian's reporting this morning that a number

1615
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 14: of the circled moderates, which means those to the left

1616
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 14: in the Liberal Party are starting to abandon her. They

1617
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 14: see the shift is on and so they say, well,

1618
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 14: what's the point of staying with Susan Lee. If her

1619
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 14: policies are exactly the same as the Nationals and the

1620
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 14: same as the Conservatives, we might as well get on

1621
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 14: board the conservative bandwagon. Now, who's driving that bus? Will

1622
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 14: Andrew Hasty, former sas soldier from Perth. He is very

1623
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 14: much a conservative, but he's also young. He has some

1624
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 14: very progressive views about the way that the Liberal Party

1625
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 14: should be moving. He believes that not only should they

1626
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 14: dump net zero, but they should push hard on new

1627
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 14: coal five power stations, nuclear energy, and he has some

1628
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 14: pretty tough words to say on defense spending as well.

1629
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 14: So that's the direction it's going in. Will it get

1630
01:15:55,720 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 14: their pre Christmas? I can't call that yet, and I

1631
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 14: think we'll find out. This week's pivotal for her. I mean,

1632
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 14: she announced the net zero tie up with the National

1633
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,839
Speaker 14: yesterday after a week of delly dallying around with various meetings.

1634
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,480
Speaker 14: It will just depend on whether they have the appetite

1635
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 14: to do it quickly. If they do, they should because

1636
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 14: there's no point just leaving you. They're hanging in the breeze.

1637
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 2: No exactly. And you also want a good run up,

1638
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 2: don't you. I mean, I know that you've just had

1639
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 2: an election. I get that, But I mean, if you

1640
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: want to get your feet under the table, get a

1641
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 2: few ideas, get out into them.

1642
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 17: You know.

1643
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 2: Well, once people start getting engaged again in the electoral cycle,

1644
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 2: you want to be the established player, don't you.

1645
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 14: Yeah, you do. Because what Labor is doing is just

1646
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 14: taking advantage of all of this. The Prime Minister, I'll

1647
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 14: tell you about this in the second. He's wondering around

1648
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 14: the country handing out money, telling people that their energy

1649
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 14: bills will go down when we stick up a whole

1650
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 14: bunch of wind turbines and sun and solar panels. So

1651
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 14: he's got a big advantage at the moment. He's making

1652
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 14: use of it. He is really out there pushing his

1653
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 14: brand very hard. And the longer the Liberals lead at

1654
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 14: the worst single.

1655
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeh and speak. So today it's and it's trains and

1656
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 2: so how much of that's federal, how much of that state?

1657
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,560
Speaker 14: Well, the Prime Minister came yesterday to Melbourne and he

1658
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,919
Speaker 14: rode what's known what has been called the Metro Tunnel,

1659
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 14: which will open at the end of November. Now, this

1660
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 14: thing's cost fifteen point five billion dollars. Basically, what they've

1661
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 14: done is they've done two tunnels underneath the city so

1662
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 14: they could join up two train lines so you don't

1663
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 14: have to go on what's known as the City Loop.

1664
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 14: So that's going to open November thirty. Interestingly, that'll be

1665
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 14: one year almost exactly until the next state election. So

1666
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 14: the PM came rode the train with the Premier to

1667
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 14: Center Allen and he said, well, we're going to give

1668
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 14: more money to this suburban rail, which is an underground

1669
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 14: train system. I know this is difficult for people don't

1670
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 14: know Melbourne well to get their head around, but it

1671
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 14: will go from the southeast to the west underground and

1672
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 14: it's going to take another ten years to finish. The

1673
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 14: cost thirty four point five billion dollars. So when you

1674
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 14: add that up to the metro Funnel at fifteen point

1675
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 14: five billion, you're looking at fifty billion dollars and they've

1676
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 14: only funded a quarter of it the state and federal

1677
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 14: government combined, so they've got to get the money from

1678
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 14: somewhere and the state is basically broke. So it is

1679
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 14: an extraordinary promise. He said, there'll be money in the

1680
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 14: May budget. This is the Prime minister. When asked how much,

1681
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 14: he said, well, we have budgets for a reason. You

1682
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 14: can wait until then and you'll find out.

1683
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 2: Does anyone care about the fact that you're not making

1684
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 2: a surplus and you're running yourself slowly but surely bankrupt or?

1685
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 2: Has he got so much political capital he doesn't.

1686
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 14: Care well in Melbourne. In Victoria, hera, I mean the

1687
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 14: people working on these projects largely from the radical CFMAU union,

1688
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 14: and so they've got jobs for life. I mean they

1689
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 14: have stitched up these building contracts and they all of

1690
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 14: their members are getting paid extraordinary high wages. And there's

1691
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 14: so many public servants now being paid by the taxpayer

1692
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 14: in Victoria that that's how Cinder, Allen and Laybor just

1693
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 14: keep getting re elected and as I said, can't. Next

1694
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 14: Friday will be one year exactly to the state election,

1695
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 14: and if you asked me who would win, I'd have

1696
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 14: to tell you that the labor government that have made

1697
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 14: a complete utter shambles of this state will get back.

1698
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 2: Unreal where are the people, I mean are they the

1699
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 2: inner city suburbs? Because you look at downtown Melbourne, you

1700
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 2: look at the shops, that aren't open. You look at

1701
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: the protests every Saturday. You look at all the problems

1702
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 2: you have the supporters and amongst this, and they're going this.

1703
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 14: Is the immigrations help. I mean the number of migrants,

1704
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 14: particularly from places like India, and less or so from China.

1705
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 14: But the Chinese students are here. But that the Indian

1706
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 14: migration to this city has been extraordinary, and they are

1707
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 14: largely Labor supporters. The Labor Party has done a very

1708
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 14: good job at convincing migrants that they're here because Labor

1709
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 14: government in camer let them come, and so they vote

1710
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 14: Labor in the state election.

1711
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: Unreal. Now, the burger thing, I've been following with a

1712
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 2: great deal of metrist so I couldn't work out how

1713
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 2: they're doing it. So this is Piastre. He hopped up

1714
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 2: with his burger joint and every time he hit the

1715
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 2: podium he got a free burger. But now, how is

1716
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 2: it they're giving away free burgers and not losing money

1717
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:08,560
Speaker 2: hand over first.

1718
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 14: Well, I'm not sure about that, but the fact is

1719
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 14: he's not getting on the podium, so they don't have

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01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 14: to give away so many hamburgers. They've apologized now for

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Speaker 14: jinxing Oscar because since the Italian Grand Prix in September,

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Speaker 14: they were offering Piastre eighty one burgers free to their

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Speaker 14: customers if he finished. Whenever he finished on the podium, well,

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Speaker 14: he's not been on the podium since they started this promotion.

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Speaker 14: His leads obviously. Now Don Norris is in front, so

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Speaker 14: Grilled has now changed its opper to reward fans not

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Speaker 14: for when he gets on the podium, but for every

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Speaker 14: time he finishes a race. And he crashed out of

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Speaker 14: course in San Puilo last weekend, so they didn't have

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Speaker 14: to give any burgers away then either. Now Piastres fans

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01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,799
Speaker 14: have gone online for saying, for God's sake, stop this promotion,

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Speaker 14: give us some hope for the last three races, stop

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Speaker 14: giving away free Piastre burgers. I'm not sure what grild

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Speaker 14: are going to do about this, but they're in a

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Speaker 14: bit of trouble for they.

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Speaker 2: Well known and do they make good food. Have you

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Speaker 2: been there?

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Speaker 12: Good burgers?

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Speaker 14: Yep, very nice and they're all over the country. I'm

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Speaker 14: surprised they haven't made their way into news.

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01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: I was watching the supercar speaking of cars, watching the

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01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 2: supercars yesterday was at Sandown. I mean that that weather reviewers.

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01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 2: I mean, don't you get sick of it? I mean

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01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 2: it's fine at pause, it's fine at pause. It's just like, geez,

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01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 2: you don't know what to wear.

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Speaker 14: My forty eight dollars umbrella got blown away by the

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01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 14: wind yesterday. Well, I was trying to play golf in

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Speaker 14: the middle of a rain storm and a wind owling

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01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 14: through the golf course and I got completely soaked. So

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01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 14: you're right, no one can predict the weather here go up.

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Speaker 2: See winds don't appreciate it. Speaking of food, actually, Menu

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Speaker 2: Log announced last week in Australia they're closing down. They

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01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: closed down here ages Ago. I didn't realize, but they're

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01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 2: run by an international I don't think it's got anything

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01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 2: to do with the economy, but prospers. It's a Dutch

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01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 2: investment company. Blah blah blah. They want to focus on

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01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 2: Europe and stuff like that. So they're closed down here

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01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,879
Speaker 2: and now they've closed down in Australia. Forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered

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Speaker 17: Mike.

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Speaker 2: We like grilled and Sydney would love them to come

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Speaker 2: to Tower on a healthy sellers as well. I'm glad you

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Speaker 2: they put a bit of orange and I couldn't in

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Speaker 2: following the story. They put a bit of orange somehow

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Speaker 2: orange something that could have been papaya or something in

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Speaker 2: the burger to make it sort of McLaren esque and

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Speaker 2: pastre Westfield and Porium. If you've ever been to San Francisco,

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01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 2: do you know. I was talking to the travel agent

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Speaker 2: the other day and I was trying to work out

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01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: an entry point into America where I could spend a

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01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 2: day on the way to somewhere else in America. And

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01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 2: last time we went to America, we stopped in San Francisco.

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01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 2: I want a dump And I said, is San Francisco

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01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 2: any better? And she went, no, it's worse. She's now

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01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 2: recommending you don't go through Los Angeles either. That's got

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01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 2: bad as well. So anyway, Westfield and Porium when we

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01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 2: were there last time, So Westfield and Porium was the

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01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 2: big Westfield in the Union Square, heart of San Francisco,

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01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 2: and they closed down a couple of years ago. They said,

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01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 2: the crime's out of control, there's no enforcement. The whole

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01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 2: place is a mess. We're out and Westfield literally this

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01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 2: is one point two million square feet of mal literally

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01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 2: left downtown San Francisco. Anyway, the building at the time

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01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 2: was valued at one point two billion dollars and it

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01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 2: sold at auction last week. They didn't appraise. At the

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01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 2: end of twenty two it was down to two hundred

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01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: ninety million, So one point two billion down to two

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01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 2: hundred ninety million, so that's seventy six percent drop in value. Finally,

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01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 2: last week it sold for one hundred and thirty three

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01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,480
Speaker 2: million dollars, which was eleven percent of its original valuation.

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01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 2: That's what they've done. No one knows what they're going

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01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 2: to do with the building, but it's a bargain at

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01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty three million steat a one point

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01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 2: two billion, But that's what ruining a town does for you.

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Speaker 2: And the scandal behind us. Speaking of scandals, are is

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01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: it going to be a scandal? Probably not the Kirsty

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01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 2: name Christinome, rather the Homeland Security secretary. So she's doing

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01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 2: some ads they were shot at Mount Rushmore. She's handing

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01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 2: out money, hundreds of millions of dollars to it, stemming

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01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 2: illegal migration, blah blah blah. Now the scandal that's brewing

1802
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: is who did the ads a company no one had

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01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 2: ever heard of before. It was a company that was

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01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: set up a couple of days before the actual shoot

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01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: in Delaware, of all places, nine figure ad deal long

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01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 2: standing personal and business ties to Nome and her senior

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01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 2: aids at the DHS a company called Strategy Group. Except

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01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:29,799
Speaker 2: Strategy Group didn't get the money. Mysterious Delaware company created

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01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 2: just days before the deal was finalized. No firm with

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01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 2: closer tires and Strategy to Nome played a central role

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01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 2: in her twenty twenty two South Dakota givenatorial campaign, and

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01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 2: Lewandowski is in there as well, her top adviser at

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01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,759
Speaker 2: the DHS. He's worked extensively with Strategy as well. Contracts

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01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,639
Speaker 2: are two hundred and twenty million dollars in counting. They're

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01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 2: buying television airtime and spots on social media and stuff

1816
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 2: like that. So far this company in Delaware has received

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01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty three million dollars. Best mates with Christy,

1818
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,839
Speaker 2: So I suppose someone's going to ask a few questions

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01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 2: about that. We'll see it goes anywhere. Nine minutes away

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Speaker 2: from nine.

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Speaker 2: tax position forecast until April of twenty seven, along with

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Speaker 2: that's what you're sending in the text, the word invest

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Speaker 2: and you send it off to three five four eight.

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Speaker 2: Invest to three five four eight, or go to Centuria

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Speaker 2: your day in Santa Monica fabulous, took five minutes to

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Speaker 2: get through Lax using the MPC at last week. Good

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Speaker 2: tip Mike three days in San Francisco four weeks ago

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01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 2: on the way to the med We loved it. Didn't

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01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,799
Speaker 2: see anything you wouldn't normally see in a big city.

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Speaker 2: Sure that's a recommendation. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 2: Healthy, All year out, All Right. Taylor's back new six

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Speaker 2: part doco series. This is a series about the Eras Tour.

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01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 2: It's behind the scene looks of you know, the biggest

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Speaker 2: concerts Taylor. This show created a bonding experience for like

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Speaker 2: seventy thousand people all at once.

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Speaker 8: There's something very.

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Speaker 4: Special about that.

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01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: I came up with the idea for the Aras Tour

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01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: about two years before the tour started.

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Speaker 24: My main goal is to give something to the fans

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Speaker 24: that they didn't expect.

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01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 2: Summer where everyone is screaming so loud.

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Speaker 17: I love having a good secret.

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Speaker 24: So it goes New Year's Day versu and chorus manuscript

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01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 24: bridge into long Lived, Bridge into the down verse of

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Speaker 24: Long Live, into hold onto the memories they will hold

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01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 24: on to you, into long Live chorus, but slowed down

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Speaker 24: to halftime New Year's Day chords underneath it into the

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Speaker 24: last version for manuscript That's Complicated.

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Speaker 2: Taya love her one on one interviews with Tayler with

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Speaker 2: Sabrina Carpenter read utical about her over the weekend. It

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01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 2: said she was going to be like the biggest thing

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Speaker 2: in the world until she wasn't. What happened?

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Speaker 17: Now?

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01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 2: That was Sidney Sweeney? Was it Sidney Sweeney? I think

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Speaker 2: it is Sidney Sweeney. Mind you, Sabrina Kaepener. Anyway, Travis

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Speaker 2: is in the reads in there? Hasn't shearing Florence Welsh?

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01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: Who's she?

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01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 12: Oh?

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01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 2: Is it Florence on the machine?

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Speaker 17: Isn't?

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01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 2: Why is she in there? What's it matter? December twelfth

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Speaker 2: on Disney two episodes a week for six episodes. That

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01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 2: three weeks times two also goes the few anyway, enjoy it.

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01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 2: Disney went up put the prices, we got the notice.

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01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 2: It a couple hundred dollars a year. Why not powers up?

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Speaker 2: Disney's up. Everything's up. For goodness sake. We're still free

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Speaker 2: as of tomorrow morning at six with Ford your Company Happier.

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