1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: Your ruerboard on the Evin du Per se Eland Drive 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: with n's Kofoods, New Zealand's Finest Beef and Lamb. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: Now to talk rural, we've got Jamie McKay, host of 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: the Country and from the Country dot Co dot NZ. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: Hello Jamie good Andrew. 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: Hey, look, I'm wondering whether maybe someone should Dr Rod Carr, 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 3: the Climate Change Commissioner or the chairman and tell him 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: not to venture into rural New Zealand because he's ruffled 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: a few feathers today. 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: All right, so this is so you actually broke out, 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: broke down a little bit there. So this is kind 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: of Change Commission Chair Dr Rod Carr, who says it 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: is not true to say pharmacy to wait for new 14 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: technology before they can lower their planet heating commissions. They 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: can do it now. 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: Here. Well, it's interesting, he said. The idea that and 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: I hope you can hear me Andrew apologize for the reception. 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: He said, the idea that farmers have no tools and 19 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: must wait for new things before they can reduce emissions 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 3: is simply not true. We know different feeding practices are 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: associated with different missions. We know different breeds and breed 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: with breeds within breeds are associated with different emissions. Now, 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: this got a strong rebuke from Mark Cameron, who's one 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 3: of the act agricultural spokespeople. He's also a Northland Kalkaki. 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 3: He said, well, mister Carr, it's about time you visited 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: rural New Zealand before making in accurate statements about on 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: farm practice. Has a thought for URRT, He writes, the 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: Climate Change Commissioner should tell rural people what bovine breeds 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: and what breeds within breeds. He's specifically talking about that 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: he states had such different emissions profiles New Rural and 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: New Zealand is waiting with baited breath for the answer 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: to that one. 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: So look he's going out all guns blazing, doctor Rhard. 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 3: He's never been afraid to speak out. It'll be fair 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: to say he's probably not the post popular man in 37 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: the rural New Zealand. 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: Good seth, Look this is starting to worry me. Development 39 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: of large scale dairy farms and forming feed prices are 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: driving China's raw milk action app and the official price down. 41 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: They're getting good at this stuff. 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, they are getting really good at it. And I've 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: been trading for a lot longer than us and it's 44 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: a bit of a worry if they start moving some 45 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 3: of their production Andrew onto the world stage. Interestingly, that 46 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: the current price they're being paid in China at the 47 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: moment in New Zealand dollar equivalents about nine dollars per 48 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: kilogram of milk solid, so it's still above ours. But 49 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: their cost of production is quite a bit higher than ours, 50 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 3: obviously because it's all it's mainly bought in feed, whereas 51 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: our dairy system is pasture based. So China's raw milk 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: production's gone up one percent in May year on year, 53 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: two point three percent growth in April, and we're looking 54 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: at possibly because we're not sure of these numbers coming 55 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: out of China eight point six percent per annum twenty 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: twenty two are two point nine twenty twenty three, So 57 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: their self sufficiency, this is the key number, Andrew and 58 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: Darry has grown from seventy percent to eighty five percent 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 3: in the past four years. You know, with these low 60 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: farm gate prices, China will quickly become a major exporter 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: of darying around the world and that could cause us 62 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: some issues, perhaps not even to mention the market that 63 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: where that is being flooded with some of their products. 64 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: And this also remind them that nearly will mind ourselves. 65 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: At sixty percent of the New Zealand and formulam exports 66 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: go to China, but if they start being self sufficient, 67 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: then we lose money here. 68 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: And a final thought on that one, Andrew, just following 69 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: on from your excellent number, is that we do have 70 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: an FTA with China and that helps us because the 71 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: other big players in the infant formula market are getting 72 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: hit harder than us, the likes of the Netherland. So 73 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: thank goodness for that FTA with China. 74 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: Good So if Jamie go the Rowers and I thank 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: you for your time today or the best Buddy 76 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: Sea for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live 77 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or 78 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio