WEBVTT - Inside the defence's closing statement: What they say happened to Pauline Hanna

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<v Speaker 1>Hilda. I'm Chelsea Daniels and from the team behind the

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<v Speaker 1>front page. The New Zealand Herald's daily news podcast, This

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<v Speaker 1>is Accused the Polkinghorn Trial. Over a series of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>In conjunction with our usual daily episodes, we'll be bringing

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<v Speaker 1>you regular coverage as one of the most high profile

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<v Speaker 1>trials of the year makes its way through the High

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<v Speaker 1>Court at Auckland. A warning, this podcast contains disturbing content.

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Polkinghorn is accused of murdering his wife, Pauline Hannah,

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<v Speaker 1>who was found dead on April fifth, twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>He maintains she took her own life. Week eight of

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<v Speaker 1>the trial began with the Crown delivering their closing statement.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's the defense's turn.

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<v Speaker 2>Your honor, mister Foreman and members of your jury. What

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<v Speaker 2>a final insult. The final insult doctor Pulkinghorn faces from

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<v Speaker 2>five April.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty twenty one through to the day's date has just

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<v Speaker 3>been made.

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<v Speaker 2>It suggested that he's blamed her, his own wife, for

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<v Speaker 2>her death. He's described as the master manipulator. The first

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<v Speaker 2>insult he faced was when the police attended at his

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<v Speaker 2>address on five April twenty twenty one, when they walk

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<v Speaker 2>through that door with our open mind, they would have

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<v Speaker 2>us believe, and I think we can accept. And then

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly saw the rope in the way in which

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<v Speaker 2>it was left by doctor Polkinghorn and gave it what

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<v Speaker 2>they describe as the tension check, and from there his

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<v Speaker 2>property and he was treated in a way that he

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<v Speaker 2>was alleged to have been involved.

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<v Speaker 3>In his wife's own death.

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<v Speaker 1>And so began the defense's closing argument, as given by

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<v Speaker 1>defense lawyer Ron Mansfield. He said, it has been a

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<v Speaker 1>long process leading up to the trial when Philip Polkinghorn

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<v Speaker 1>finally had the chance to show the evidence that vindicates

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<v Speaker 1>his position. Mansfield said his client wanted to help police

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<v Speaker 1>with his interview because he considered that was the right

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do. It was an insult because what lay

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<v Speaker 1>behind that was the suspicion they never informed him of

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<v Speaker 1>or gave him the opportunity to respond to then and there,

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<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said, despite grieving the death of his wife, Polkinghorn

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to be interviewed at the scene when he detailed

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<v Speaker 1>quite consistently what happened that morning.

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<v Speaker 2>A master manipulator need not have done so, but he

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<v Speaker 2>did so in the state that he was in in

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<v Speaker 2>between taking messages, making calls, letting people know, as anyone

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<v Speaker 2>of us would like the dignity to do, to let

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<v Speaker 2>people know who loved Pauline off her passing, to allow

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<v Speaker 2>people to comfort you as you might when you suffer

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<v Speaker 2>such a loss. But nonetheless, during that interview, we know

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<v Speaker 2>this attention check took place, and we know things switched

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<v Speaker 2>from open mind and being objective by the attending police

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<v Speaker 2>officers to a focus now on establishing what they were

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<v Speaker 2>quickly coming to think was a potential homicide, despite any

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<v Speaker 2>objective evidence that might allow that assessment to be made.

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<v Speaker 1>They came into that address expecting a full suspension hanging,

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<v Speaker 1>said Mansfield, and failed to turn their mind to an

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<v Speaker 1>incomplete or partial suspension hanging. He said ambulance officers did

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<v Speaker 1>not harbor suspicions, no doubt, because of their more robust

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<v Speaker 1>and informed experience with these type of hangings. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>he can understand the detective going upstairs and pulling on

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<v Speaker 1>the rope and thinking it's odd, but there's no record

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<v Speaker 1>of that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't doctor Polkinghorn being asked to assist the police, It

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<v Speaker 2>was the fact that they failed to tell him that

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<v Speaker 2>they considered the situation to be suspicious and that he

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<v Speaker 2>might be a suspect for his own wife's death. Not

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<v Speaker 2>providing him with an opportunity to explain what he had

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<v Speaker 2>done and how he had done it by perhaps showing

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<v Speaker 2>them but without touching anything, just lured him to the

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<v Speaker 2>police station, albeit under a false pretense that they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>an interview, not from a grieving husband who might find

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<v Speaker 2>it cathartic to sit there and talk about his wife

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<v Speaker 2>and what he had found in the way in which

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<v Speaker 2>it appeared during the course of the interview he found it,

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<v Speaker 2>but treating him like a suspect for his own wife's death.

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<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said that Polkinghorn had no idea during his lengthy

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<v Speaker 1>police interview that an asound, forensic team and a photographer

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<v Speaker 1>had been set loose in his house. Mansfield says it

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<v Speaker 1>was another insult given he had been speaking with the

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<v Speaker 1>police openly and honestly to find his home was being

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<v Speaker 1>violated and he was being treated as a suspect. On

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<v Speaker 1>the deleted WhatsApp messages, Mansfield said that came after the

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<v Speaker 1>revelation to Polkinghorn that he was being treated as a suspect.

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<v Speaker 3>And will come back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you think about the timing of that, and

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<v Speaker 2>given the level of suspicion he is now facing and

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<v Speaker 2>the focus of the police investigation, why would he Why

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<v Speaker 2>would he want the police to learn of something that

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<v Speaker 2>was private and always had been as far as he

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<v Speaker 2>was aware, private between him and his wife in relation

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<v Speaker 2>to what they or what he got up to by

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<v Speaker 2>way of sexual relations outside of their union. It is

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<v Speaker 2>entirely understandable at that point why he might seek to

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<v Speaker 2>delete or remove WhatsApp messages that revealed something which was

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<v Speaker 2>intimate and potentially embarrassing, and certainly something that would damage

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<v Speaker 2>both of their reputations.

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<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said. The police sealed off the Upland Road home

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<v Speaker 1>from April fifth to April sixteen. Hannah's funeral was in

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<v Speaker 1>April fifteen, and Polkinghorn had to investigate purchasing new clothes

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<v Speaker 1>for fear he wouldn't be able to get any of

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<v Speaker 1>her personal effects from the address. Hannah's autopsy happened on

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<v Speaker 1>April six but Polkinghorn wasn't advised of its outcome or

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<v Speaker 1>given any access to either a briefing or a report.

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<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said Polkinghorn reached out to another pathologist because he

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<v Speaker 1>was concerned and couldn't understand what was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Further in soul, not treating him as a loved one,

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<v Speaker 2>not treating him with any respect, and giving him any

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<v Speaker 2>information in relation to the autopsy. And what would the

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<v Speaker 2>harm have been to share that information with him, To

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<v Speaker 2>share the information that she had died, albeit doctor Keisha

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<v Speaker 2>would have us accept by net compression as if that

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<v Speaker 2>was the only pathology outcome that could be given. What

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<v Speaker 2>would have been the harm to confirm to him that

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<v Speaker 2>what he had found and seen was entirely consistent with

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<v Speaker 2>the pathology that was revealed through the autopsy.

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<v Speaker 1>Polkinghorn then asked to have his own pathologist you the

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<v Speaker 1>position via a second autopsy.

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<v Speaker 2>Why if he had known that he had taken his

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<v Speaker 2>wife's life by way of a homicide, why would he

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<v Speaker 2>involve a pathologists to conduct a second autopsy.

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<v Speaker 3>What he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Seeking to do was just learn why this was being

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<v Speaker 2>treated as suspicious and why he was being treated as

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<v Speaker 2>the suspect.

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<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said. Tongues were wagging around Remuerra because of the

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<v Speaker 1>presence of the police, and soon the press was onto

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<v Speaker 1>it and people soon came to know the death was

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<v Speaker 1>being treated as suspicious.

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<v Speaker 2>When this became public that the death was being treated

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<v Speaker 2>as suspicious and he was the suspect, then everyone around

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<v Speaker 2>him starts to shut down, treats him differently, and he

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<v Speaker 2>becomes isolated. As a matter of common sense, that's how

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<v Speaker 2>you might react if.

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<v Speaker 3>You were told by an authority to whom.

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<v Speaker 2>You thought you could place some reliance on for being

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<v Speaker 2>objective and only relying on evidence, that if someone was

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<v Speaker 2>being treated as a suspect, there must be something to it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that changes everybody's attitude other than those really close

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<v Speaker 2>to him, and that knew better everybody else's attitude towards him.

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<v Speaker 2>What further insult could there be other than being accused,

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<v Speaker 2>as he was now of being the suspect, But for

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<v Speaker 2>it to be effectively leaked in this way through the media,

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<v Speaker 2>so that everybody friends and family became aware of this

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<v Speaker 2>allegation and hence reacted and treated him differently.

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<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said it made people think differently when it eventually

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<v Speaker 1>came time for them to be interviewed by police. Things

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<v Speaker 1>that might have otherwise been duly explained or seen as

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<v Speaker 1>drunken banter that they didn't place much weight on then

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<v Speaker 1>became quite important. Mansfield said, is not asking the jury

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<v Speaker 1>to ignore the evidence from Hannah's family or close friends,

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<v Speaker 1>but to consider how their mind's attitudes and experiences were

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<v Speaker 1>informed by the fact that Polkinghorn was suspected by police

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<v Speaker 1>of killing his wife. Mansfield says, a legitimate issue with

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<v Speaker 1>a contact lens, for example, became him dragging her away

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<v Speaker 1>from a party. Mansfield said, and as just one example

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<v Speaker 1>of how people's views changed in a flick of a switch.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's the reality he is on his own. The

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<v Speaker 1>only person who was engaging with him was Madison Ashton,

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<v Speaker 1>with whom he had been in a relationship with for

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<v Speaker 1>six years since twenty fifteen. Mansfield asked for the jury

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<v Speaker 1>to consider the context.

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<v Speaker 2>Firstly, as a result of this and police investigation and

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<v Speaker 2>the way in which they are conducting it, he has

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<v Speaker 2>become entirely isolated.

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<v Speaker 3>He is not getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Support other than from his sister Ruth, with whom he

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<v Speaker 2>is needing to stay during the period.

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<v Speaker 3>Of time that this address is out of bounds.

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<v Speaker 2>All others have been informed of the police suspicion, either

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<v Speaker 2>by the media or had been told or.

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<v Speaker 3>By word of mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>The only person, and a person he has known for

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<v Speaker 2>five or six years as has his wife is reaching

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<v Speaker 2>out and communicating with him, And yeah, there's sexual discussion

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<v Speaker 2>and sexual engagement within that entirely consistent with the nature

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<v Speaker 2>of their relationship for that entiret period from twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>that entire period that both he and Pauline have known

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<v Speaker 2>this woman and utilized her services and support.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll come back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>And secondly, given that she's the only person that's reaching

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<v Speaker 2>out to him, that's communicating with him, it is hardly

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<v Speaker 2>surprising that their relationship draws close and of the kind

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<v Speaker 2>that you.

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<v Speaker 1>See discussed in that context, Polkinghorn's meeting with Ashton in

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Cook Village twenty five days after Hannah's death can

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<v Speaker 1>be understood. Mansfield said that isolation continued for sixteen months

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<v Speaker 1>as police continued their investigation and then charged him with murder.

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<v Speaker 2>He might have thought that was the final insult he

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<v Speaker 2>would face and have to bear, the final insult he

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<v Speaker 2>would need to address when it came to trial, But no,

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<v Speaker 2>the final insult came when it was suggested that he

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<v Speaker 2>was to be blamed for blaming his own wife for

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<v Speaker 2>her own death. If you want to add insult to

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<v Speaker 2>injury there you have it, and that is with the

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<v Speaker 2>Crown knowing full well that the forensic material in this

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<v Speaker 2>case does answer this case for you. It provides the

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<v Speaker 2>complete answer and it always has it has provided the

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<v Speaker 2>complete answer from the sixth of April, the date that

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<v Speaker 2>the autopsy was conducted and the report was given.

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<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said that the pathology and what was found at

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<v Speaker 1>the house provides the complete answer that Tanner sadly died

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<v Speaker 1>by a partial or incomplete hanging. When you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the scene fairly, it was entirely consistent with Polkinghorn's police interview.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Answer has always been in the pathology. The answer is

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<v Speaker 2>still in the pathology. The problem is the answer doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>justify the way in which doctor Polkinghorn was treated. The

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<v Speaker 2>answer doesn't justify how long his address was under the

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<v Speaker 2>control of the police so that they could search it

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<v Speaker 2>in the way that they did.

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<v Speaker 3>The answer doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Justify the very long way he had to wait until

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<v Speaker 2>he found out that he was going to be accused

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<v Speaker 2>of his wife's death, and it justified or answer why

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<v Speaker 2>we're here today. So they had to seek to justify

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<v Speaker 2>it through some other means by seeking to build a

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<v Speaker 2>motive for a crime. That has simply not been conducted,

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<v Speaker 2>a murder that has not been committed, And that is why,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is the only reason why. The absence of

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<v Speaker 2>pathology that helps him, the absence of forensic evidence from

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<v Speaker 2>the scene, the absence of any other evidence that you

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<v Speaker 2>would ordinarily find associated with a homicide. That is why

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<v Speaker 2>we have been here weeks touring through potential motives for

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<v Speaker 2>a crime that has not been committed, For a murder

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<v Speaker 2>that has not occurred.

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<v Speaker 3>He has needed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Effectively take over and prosecute as if he needed to

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<v Speaker 2>establish that his wife died by way of suicide, even

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<v Speaker 2>though he has no onus or burden to prove anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And that you might think is entirely consistent with an

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<v Speaker 2>innocent man who finally gets an opportunity to establish his

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<v Speaker 2>innocence before our community, some of which has already condemned

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<v Speaker 2>him before having heard any evidence. This has been a

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<v Speaker 2>trial prosecuted by emotion, and where the victim is logic.

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<v Speaker 3>A trial run by emotion.

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<v Speaker 2>Allows our murder mystery fantasies to run wild. And what

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<v Speaker 2>a blockbuster by learn of friends closing address was to

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<v Speaker 2>you our own very own modern day murder mystery.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a binge of every murder.

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<v Speaker 2>She wrote, all in one session, by our own, our

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<v Speaker 2>very own Angela Lansbury presenting, or I suppose more correctly

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<v Speaker 2>put she was presenting the script written by the police.

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<v Speaker 3>The murder.

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<v Speaker 2>The police wrote the murder they started writing immediately after

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<v Speaker 2>the tension check.

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<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said, of the four pathologists heard in the case,

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<v Speaker 1>only two had potential examples of this phantom theory of

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<v Speaker 1>a potential death by way of homicidal strangulation but leaving

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<v Speaker 1>no injury at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this where we are to see this particular case

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<v Speaker 2>falling to be that exception, to be that phantom, to

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<v Speaker 2>be that case where despite the absence of any expected

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<v Speaker 2>injury from a homicidal strangulation, there is none.

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<v Speaker 3>We have unmarked the phantom.

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<v Speaker 2>Folks apparently, and it's doctor Polkinghorn.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a phantom murder that none of the four pathologists

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<v Speaker 1>had been able to confirm themselves, Mansfield said. In Polkinghorn,

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<v Speaker 1>without any training in martial arts, without being a big

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<v Speaker 1>or strong man, while yes he did brag about his fitness,

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<v Speaker 1>managed to kill his wife without leaving any of the

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<v Speaker 1>telltale signs.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds absurd because it is it sounds unachievable because.

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<v Speaker 1>It is if that is the way this case is

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<v Speaker 1>being prosecuted based on this theory, this phantom that potentially exists,

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<v Speaker 1>that tells you a great deal, said Mansfield. He said

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<v Speaker 1>that the pathology is evidence based, and the two defense

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<v Speaker 1>pathologists said they would have reported this death by way

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<v Speaker 1>of hanging, and there's no need to leave it open.

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<v Speaker 1>In cases of a strangling of an intimate partner, the

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<v Speaker 1>red mist comes down and the assailants don't care about

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<v Speaker 1>if they're leaving injury. But there are none on Hannah's neck,

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<v Speaker 1>which you'd expect in a partial or a complete hanging.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no injuries on Hannah from her fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>her life, none of the scratches or bruises that can

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<v Speaker 1>occur as she fought back and trying to release the

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<v Speaker 1>If that injury was left by Hannah, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>signs in her nails, nor in her three rings. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an injury. Polkinghorn didn't even know he had Mansfield said.

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<v Speaker 2>And you might think, as a matter of logic, if

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<v Speaker 2>he had been involved in an altercation with her where

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<v Speaker 2>there was some form of struggle and he sustained any

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<v Speaker 2>form of injury, then he would know and might seek

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<v Speaker 2>to attend to that that he might have an explanation

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<v Speaker 2>for it, given he's the master manipulator when he's asked

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<v Speaker 2>about it, as he was at the scene by the

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<v Speaker 2>attending ambulance and by the police.

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<v Speaker 1>The other injuries to Hannah's body, like her nose, her back,

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<v Speaker 1>her bruises on her arm, could not be shown to

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<v Speaker 1>be consistent with any assault or altercation that might occur

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<v Speaker 1>between two people in a homicidal strangulation. Mansfield said.

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<v Speaker 2>The crowns say you should use your logic and consider

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<v Speaker 2>them as consistent with an assault, because the Crown has to.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't it point to some form of injury of an assault,

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<v Speaker 2>even though on the evidence it's not there.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the Crown wants you to accept.

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<v Speaker 2>Its emotional plea that this was a homicidal strangulation which must,

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<v Speaker 2>by its varying nature, have incurred some struggle at some

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<v Speaker 2>time for some length, and the Crown, once it realized

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<v Speaker 2>that the absence of those kinds of injuries was a

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<v Speaker 2>real problem for its case. And despite the proferet or

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<v Speaker 2>advice you have had from four pathologists tells you that

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<v Speaker 2>logically you should consider these injuries as consistent with an assault,

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<v Speaker 2>entirely contrary with.

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<v Speaker 3>The evidence that you have heard in this trial. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not logic.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the crown and you going rogue if you agree

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<v Speaker 2>with that kind of approach.

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<v Speaker 1>Blood pulling in her legs and the disappearing belt mark

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<v Speaker 1>also fit with her death being a suicide, Mansfield said. Next,

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<v Speaker 1>the defense lawyer told the jury he'd take them through

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship between husband and wife and the use of math.

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<v Speaker 2>It's murder, one oh one. For there to be a murder,

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<v Speaker 2>their first must be a culpable homicide. And we've already

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<v Speaker 2>discussed whether on the forensic evidence you have before you,

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<v Speaker 2>a case where a culpable homicide, so a strangulation, homicidal

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<v Speaker 2>strangulation has been established, and it hasn't. Every good murder

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<v Speaker 2>mystery starts at that point. Someone dies, usually in the

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<v Speaker 2>first five minutes, and usually the death is obvious, as

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<v Speaker 2>is the cause. The real issue is looking for who

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<v Speaker 2>might be the perpetrator of it. Here we can't even

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<v Speaker 2>start from that position. But a lot of time in

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<v Speaker 2>this trial has been invested in creating the villain that

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<v Speaker 2>every murder mystery requires.

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<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said that Alicia McClintock's framing of Polkinghorn as the

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<v Speaker 1>master manipulator is designed to turn the jury off his client.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that the Crown solicitor has attributed an arrogance

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<v Speaker 1>to Polkinghorn not born out by the evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>None of us would want to be exposed as the

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<v Speaker 2>two individuals the subject of this prosecution have ended up

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<v Speaker 2>being exposed, but no one more so than doctor Polkinghorn.

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<v Speaker 2>His entire lifestyle has been laid bare. I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>unnecessarily before you simply to create the villain that the

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<v Speaker 2>Crown want you to see him as.

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<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said, Polkinghorn had a number of faults and some

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<v Speaker 1>members of the jury may see his traits or conduct

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<v Speaker 1>as something they might not like in a friend or partner.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is not a court of morals. That includes

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<v Speaker 1>not judging his meth use or his use of sex workers.

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<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said the evidence shows that Hannah was involved at

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<v Speaker 1>the outset of the relationship between Polkinghorn and Ashton in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen, and spoke of his use of sex workers

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<v Speaker 1>in the Longlands recording where she was less concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>sex workers and more that her husband was seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>woman in Auckland. Mansfield asked the jury not to put

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<v Speaker 1>their values on other people, and this is how Hannah

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<v Speaker 1>and Polkinghorn chose to live their life, and she made

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<v Speaker 1>her own choices in twenty nineteen around those relationships. He

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<v Speaker 1>said that Hannah was independent, intelligent, and earning an incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>good salary and would have been entitled to her share

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<v Speaker 1>of around ten point five million dollars worth of assets

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<v Speaker 1>if they separated. Mansfield said it would have been divided

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<v Speaker 1>between the two of them. He said messages from the

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<v Speaker 1>end of twenty two twenty and early twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>show that Hannah and Polkinghorn still loved and supported each

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<v Speaker 1>other despite how they operated their relationship, and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>evidence Polkinghorn wanted to run off with Ashton. That might

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<v Speaker 1>have changed after Hannah's death when he was isolated and desperate.

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<v Speaker 1>There were clear tensions behind some of the things Hannah said,

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<v Speaker 1>such as the dispute at Auckland die but Hannah made

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<v Speaker 1>it clear to her family that she was not physically

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<v Speaker 1>battered despite Polkinghorn being beastly. Mansfield said he can't comment

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<v Speaker 1>on the recollections of the readings of a dinner with Hannah,

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<v Speaker 1>in which she allegedly described Polkinghorn attempting to strangle her.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not going to suggest that Physic and John

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<v Speaker 2>read and are liars.

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<v Speaker 3>But I am going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Sedest that you need to look with Kia at what

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<v Speaker 2>they say when you contrast that against what she was

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<v Speaker 2>clearly saying to her own Bruce and Rose at Longlands.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not physically bettered, i am not abused. I am safe, Darling,

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<v Speaker 2>Please think I am safe. I'm not a scapegoat or

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<v Speaker 2>a door mare.

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<v Speaker 1>There is absolutely no other evidence of physical violence in

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah and Polkinghorn's relationship. He said. To go from no

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<v Speaker 1>violence to controlling and violence doesn't fit comfortably with what

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<v Speaker 1>others report of their relationship, Mansfield said. Onto auckland I

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<v Speaker 1>and the issues there, Mansfield said Polkinghorn's anger was not

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<v Speaker 1>about money, but about getting less than two doctors who

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<v Speaker 1>had left acrimoniously despite him being a founder of the clinic.

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<v Speaker 1>Onto the mathe Use, Mansfield said Crown witness Dr Emma

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<v Speaker 1>Schwartz's evidence was that people who use myth might be

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<v Speaker 1>prone to increased violence, but she made it clear it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a risk for everyone who used math or even

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<v Speaker 1>those with a meth use disorder. It would be hard

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<v Speaker 1>to understand why polking Horn would resort to violence when

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<v Speaker 1>it hadn't been a signature of their relationship, says Mansfield.

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<v Speaker 2>And you might just see that from the basic stats

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<v Speaker 2>that exist within our community regarding methamphetamine use. It's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And if everyone who used methamphetamine and the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>way that we know doctor Polkinghorn used methamphetamin became violent

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<v Speaker 2>or became homicidal all of a sudden, then our courts

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<v Speaker 2>would be even fuller than they are, and considerably so.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty seven point seven grams of math may have been

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<v Speaker 1>found at the Upland Road home, but Mansfield said there's

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<v Speaker 1>no evidence of Polkinghorn's meth use and that just represents

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<v Speaker 1>how much had been bought at one time. Mansfield said

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<v Speaker 1>there's no evidence of Polkinghorn having turned agitated because of

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<v Speaker 1>meth use, with only one reprimand at Auckland Eye for

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<v Speaker 1>being critical of support staff. Meth can linger in urine

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<v Speaker 1>for up to seven days in regular users, so the

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<v Speaker 1>meth found in the toilet water in Hannah's bathroom might

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing to do with its use the night of

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<v Speaker 1>her death, Mansfield said, and the investigation into the discovery

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<v Speaker 1>of the sweet puff pipe at Auckland Eye in October

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty did not prove conclusively that it belonged to Polkinghorn,

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<v Speaker 1>and meth traces were also found in other consultation rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Paramedics and the police officer who took Polkinghorn's first statement

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<v Speaker 1>didn't notice anything to suggest he was on a come

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<v Speaker 1>down from meth use. Onto sex workers, Mansfield said, Polkinghorn

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<v Speaker 1>developed an interest the lives of these women and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact he helped them with personal and financial issues says

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<v Speaker 1>a great deal about him. Ultimately, the use of sex

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<v Speaker 1>workers may have been another factor that led to Hannah

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<v Speaker 1>feeling down and seeking to take her own life.

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<v Speaker 4>Mansfield said, if a relationship was tested, if she fared

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<v Speaker 4>being on her own, or she was.

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<v Speaker 2>Concerned about how that might appear to others, especially if

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<v Speaker 2>the concern related to medicineation are known. A well known

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<v Speaker 2>sex worker in Australia that might have had an impact

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<v Speaker 2>on her that impacted on a decision to take her

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<v Speaker 2>own life that morning. The problem with the crown theory

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<v Speaker 2>regarding his relationship with sex workers equally applies to providing

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<v Speaker 2>another risk factor for Pauline that might have meant that

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<v Speaker 2>she saw suicide as a decision for her that morning.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems odd, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Might think, when if he was interested in a relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with medicination aught along and Pauline was in the way,

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't just separate as they had discussed in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen and go their own way, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>The Crown relies on a number of actions they say

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<v Speaker 1>were inconsistent with a grieving husband, such as the search

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<v Speaker 1>for leg edema after strangulation. Mansfield said that with police

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<v Speaker 1>giving him no information, Polkinghorn wanted to know why the

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<v Speaker 1>death was still being considered suspicious.

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<v Speaker 2>There is nothing indicative of this search unmasking the murderer

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<v Speaker 2>as promoters. That is just scare tactics and frankly quite bizarre.

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<v Speaker 2>He is not simply conducting a search checking to see

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<v Speaker 2>whether he left behind a clue. What he's endeavoring to

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<v Speaker 2>do is to find out why it's thought that his

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<v Speaker 2>wife's death was suspicious and whether the swelling he's noted

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<v Speaker 2>in her leg might be indicative of that concern, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know it wasn't. It wasn't indicative of that concern,

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<v Speaker 2>because that kind of swelling is indicative of death by

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<v Speaker 2>way of homicidal strangulation as much as it is death

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<v Speaker 2>by way of suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said that police had no reason to influence Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Adrian's into not making a statement other than saying people

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to talk to police onto Alison Ring. Interactions

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<v Speaker 1>between the two souring was understandable, but there's nothing suspicious

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<v Speaker 1>in him showing her the note he believed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a suer side note from Hannah. On the Crown's suggestion

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<v Speaker 1>that Polkinghorn planted blood on the steps of his home

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<v Speaker 1>to explain his head injury, there was no evidence otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>of any altercation with Hannah, and the injury to his

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<v Speaker 1>head could be described as nonspecific, Mansfield said. Polkinghorn always

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<v Speaker 1>knew there was going to be the risk of contamination,

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<v Speaker 1>and the report furnished to the Crown makes that clear,

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<v Speaker 1>but consistent with an innocent man. He went to the

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<v Speaker 1>expense of enlisting overseas expert Dr Timothy Scanlon to assess

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<v Speaker 1>that area.

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<v Speaker 4>Mansfield said, why would you go to that cost and

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<v Speaker 4>face that obvious criticism unless you were driven to prove

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<v Speaker 4>as beast you could that you didn't have an altercation

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 4>with your wife and this was not an injury caused

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 4>by that altercation, even though you knew that.

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<v Speaker 2>But no pathologist, no doctor could say it was specific

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 2>of an altercation, And if there had been an altercation,

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 2>they would have expected quite different injuries to different parts

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 2>of both of them. The reality is that that evidence,

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 2>despite criticism, simply establishes his motivation to establish his innocence.

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>And onto the blood found between Hannah's fingers.

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Not one pathologist placed any weight on the blood that

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 2>could be found between her fingers as indicative or of

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 2>assistance to you in relation to the manner upon which

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 2>your death might have occurred. And that's relevant, folks, because

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 2>now the crown seek to rely on that is somehow

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 2>indicative of it being a homicidal killing.

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Rather than death.

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 2>By way of hanging, whereas the expert evidence you have

0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 2>heard tends to suggest that also.

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Other factors like redness on Hannah's legs, bruises on her

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>right arm, and the disappearing beltmark are consistent with what

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Polkinghorn reported about Hannah's death. When you think about the

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 1>suggestion that he is a master manipulator, Mansfield asked the

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>jury to consider the other aspects of Polkinghorn. Mansfield turned

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to people who spoke highly of the accused, noting that

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>they do so despite knowing they'd be named and associated

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>with him. He referenced colleagues and patients who thought highly

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>of him, of how Polkinghorn would wave fees on surgeries

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 1>for those who couldn't afford them, even meeting them on weekends.

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 1>Despite this, Mansfield said, Polkinghorn is not a perfect man,

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>but none of us are, and the jury can't deliver

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 1>just if they only focus on the negative.

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 2>None of us would like all our messages drawled through

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 2>our inter net searchers, reviewed by others, or our personal

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 2>lives turned upside down in the way in which his

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 2>life and his wife's life was turned upside down as

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 2>a necessity because of this allegation. None of us could

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 2>stand there and say we are perfect, and none of

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 2>us would try if we knew that that kind of

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 2>review of our lives would take place. There would always

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 2>be things we wouldn't want others to know, and there

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 2>would always be things that we would want to keep

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>to ourselves and not be judged for. If you expect

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 2>that for yourself, I just asked that you expect and

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 2>ensure that for him.

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Police.

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Paulkinghorn didn't need to provide his voluntary statement to police,

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said, but he thought he was doing justice to Hannah.

0:37:55.920 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 2>If he was this intelligent master manipulator, then he would

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 2>be in that interview driving home a couple of things.

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 2>He would be in that interview driving home how he

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 2>found his wife, and being very clear around the arrangement,

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 2>the way in which the rope was tied, how long

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 2>it was horrod was connected to the belt, and how

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 2>the belt was around her neck.

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:20.799
<v Speaker 3>He would be able to.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you about that with clarity or the detective, because

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.879
<v Speaker 2>that would be key to the very setup he's meant

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.359
<v Speaker 2>to have made this mocked suicide. What would be the

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:36.439
<v Speaker 2>point of going to this effort of showing a mock

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 2>suicide in then not being able to tell the police

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 2>with some accuracy around how it was.

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>If Polkinghorn was a mastermind, cold blooded killer, he wouldn't

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>have got Hannah down and covered her with a sheet.

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Despite what people think about his interest with sex workers

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 1>and fascination with pornography. Polkinghorn loved Hannah and she loved him.

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Man's Field said he told the jury those who have

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>had long term relationships or friendships will know they're not

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>always perfect. Onto the evidence from the electricity experts, Mansfield said,

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 1>both of them said the washing machine could have been

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>used up until eleven thirty pm the night before her death.

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:23.919
<v Speaker 1>That's important because it shows her large acrylic toenail did

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>not come off in the fight. On Hannah's room, Mansfield

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>said it was not disheveled, but in a state of

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>being tidied, and Hannah had planned on finishing doing the

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 1>washing later. Mansfield then addressed Hannah's trip to the tip

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and said it showed she knew where the rope was.

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>He said there also isn't any evidence of the rope

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 1>being cut that night.

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Polkinghorn talks and his interview about handling the rope

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 2>days earlier and sealing the rope by burning the inns.

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't talk about two ripes and a fair in

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 2>the interview. He seems very confused by the suggestion that

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:08.760
<v Speaker 2>there were two ropes, which adds weight to this point

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I've made earlier that if he had secured the rope

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:15.240
<v Speaker 2>to secure her in a way to mask her death

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 2>by suicide, he would know whether there was one or

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 2>two ropes and make it very clear, because why would

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 2>he not want to look very clear about that? But

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 2>there was no rope cut as part of the exercise

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 2>of Pauline taking her own life. If so, there would

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 2>have been tailtale signs of rope fiber found in that

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 2>house and around, and Fiona Mathison would have found it

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.359
<v Speaker 2>because she was specifically looking for it.

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>He said. It's pointless to view Polkinghorn's phone being placed

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 1>on airplane mode as being suspicious, as the only benefit

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>of this would be to track his movements if he

0:40:57.080 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 1>left the address, which no one in this case is.

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Polkinghorn only remembered his phone was on airplane mode after

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 1>his one one one call, and he told police about

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:13.839
<v Speaker 1>the airplane mode situation, Mansfield said. Polkinghorn also never said

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 1>he turned on the toaster and the jug at the

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:20.240
<v Speaker 1>same time, only that he put toast in the toaster.

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 2>It needed to be responded to because this suggestion he

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 2>didn't turn the jag on and put toast and the

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 2>toaster became a key point for the Crown in trying

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 2>to establish he was telling lies. Believe it or not,

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Tea and Toast was meant to disclose whether he was truthful.

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Removing the belt from around Hannah's neck and lying her

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 1>down is entirely a natural consequence and would not have

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>been convoluted. Polkinghorn's account of the rope matches with the evidence,

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and the rope expert confirmed the knot would have held

0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Hannah's weight, Mansfield said. On the cut on his head,

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Polkinghorn told the police he didn't know how he got it,

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 1>but one of the Crown prosecutors described it as a cut,

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 1>not a scratch. Mansfield said it could have happened at

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>any occasion. On Hannah's mental health, Mansfield said the death

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 1>of her mother, fears of Polkinghorn seeing someone else, the

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 1>combination of medication and alcohol, and her perfectionist attitude can

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 1>contribute to poor mental health or depression. Mansfield said there's

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>no evidence she was dragged after her death, or that

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>there was a fight between the two that left her

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 1>with no injuries.

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:42.399
<v Speaker 2>It's implausible tissitis that could happen, that her life could

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 2>be taken by way of a homicidal strangulation, and there

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 2>be no injury and or a sign anywhere in that

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 2>bedroom consistent with that. No urine, no blood, no DNA nothing,

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.760
<v Speaker 2>no damage, no scrape, no dragging, nothing.

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.360
<v Speaker 1>The other suggestion put to the jury by the Crown

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 1>is that Polkinghorn did it by stealth, that he managed

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 1>to achieve his wife's death without leaving an injury, and

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.439
<v Speaker 1>he was able to bring her downstairs to mock up

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the hanging. Mansfield said this suggestion made no sense as

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:23.720
<v Speaker 1>there was no premeditation, no planning, no evidence he planned

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>to kill his wife. He alleges this is some of

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:31.879
<v Speaker 1>the most gravest nonsense New Zealand courts had heard for

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>a long time. Continuing on mental health, Mansfield addressed to

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the evidence of Hannah's sister Tracy. Mansfield said he fully

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 1>accepts anxiety and depression can come and go, but said

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:48.840
<v Speaker 1>it's important not to lose sight of the evidence about

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Hannah's mental health issues. He reminded the jury of evidence

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 1>from Hannah's sister, Tracy Hannah, who claimed Hannah told her

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>she'd tried to kill herself back in nineteen ninety two,

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:04.280
<v Speaker 1>who Mansfield said that the suggestion Tracy has lied about.

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>This is unfortunate.

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>She was upfront and told you what she knew in

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 2>the extent of it, and she was text about what

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 2>she did or didn't do back then when she was

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 2>a young person herself, and she needed to respond to

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:25.280
<v Speaker 2>that as be she could, and entirely emotional circumstances. Anyway,

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 2>I obviously endorsed that evidence as reliable was given to

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 2>the police. It was consistently given to you, and it

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 2>wasn't embellished in any way that you might expect it

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 2>could have been if it was aimed at assisting one

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 2>party over the other.

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said that Hannah had tensions with her brother Bruce

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 1>over dealings with their family farm. He said that in

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Hannah's own words in the Longlands recording, she spoke about

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:55.880
<v Speaker 1>not being physically battered, though perhaps emotionally so, and that

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:59.280
<v Speaker 1>she loved Polkinghorn and didn't want to leave him, despite

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:03.320
<v Speaker 1>knowing other men who fancied her. Mansfield said no one

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 1>was forcing her to participate in the sexual activity with

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 1>sex workers, and when she wanted to stop, she did.

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Hannah's own emails detail how Polkinghorn was being supportive during

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 1>her work stresses. Other witnesses testified about noticing Hannah's stress.

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:24.839
<v Speaker 1>In early twenty twenty one, Hannah's boss approached her over

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>her habit of sending emails early in the morning. In closing,

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Mansfield said, there cannot be a suggestion that Hannah was

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>trapped from a relationship that she couldn't exit. If Polkinghorn

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:40.399
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize how good he had it, that's a matter

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 1>for the couple. And there's a difference between being selfish

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 1>or self focused and taking someone's life emotions aside. All

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the evidence clearly establishes that Pauline died by suicide. Mansfield said,

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 1>there is.

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 2>No justice for Pauline if you ignore her vulnerabilities and

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 2>do not respect the decision she took. That is not respect,

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 2>That is not understanding, and that is not following your oath.

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 2>It is just being emotional vigilantes. We all need to

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 2>expect more. The decision you make must be on the evidence,

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 2>that is the oath that you swore. It can't be

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 2>based on emotion, and it can't be based on a

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:33.320
<v Speaker 2>foundless theory that he wanted her out of his life

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 2>and he was prepared to kill her, for which there

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 2>is no forensic evidence to support. Hold him morally to

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 2>account if need be, as he has been in this

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:50.440
<v Speaker 2>very public way. But you cannot convict a man of

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 2>murder when they did not do it out of anger

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 2>or sympathy, let alone the man poorly loved with all

0:46:58.239 --> 0:46:58.719
<v Speaker 2>her heart.

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Is that the way she should be remembered.

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>If you believe in the need for evidence of a

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 2>crime before you convict any man, the crown obligation to

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 2>prove a charge here at deliberate killing to the required standard,

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 2>and you believe in honoring your oath, you already know

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 2>the correct verdict in this case, and it's not necessary

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<v Speaker 2>for me to tell you.

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